art-discussion

[warped iron]

Uhh ok I don’t know anything about geo nodes

Can you animate the value? Do you need it randomised by frame?

[torpid dock]

I wanted it randomized so I wouldn't have to manually change the direction for every instance

literally just making my life more inconvenient that's it

animating the value is fine

just not randomized

for some fuckin reason

[potent sorrel]

@torpid dock @warped iron that why you should switch to microsoft roblox filmmaker

They have nothing but free models

[warped iron]

Just add a noise on the curve

Or a generator if you just want a linear motion

Or combine them

[warped iron]

Stfu your sauce lovemaker doesn’t even have geo nodes

[potent sorrel]

I was talking abt microsoft one

[cerulean umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249408446110109724/1254893216642236477/gifkitties_-_1751470205652332749_1.gif

[potent sorrel]

Not source

[warped iron]

More like…

Uhh

More like microplastics

[potent sorrel]

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9mvfq4lmz6c9?gl=DE&hl=de-de

[potent sorrel]

Now....
Say my name

[warped iron]

Idk

[potent sorrel]

You're goddamm right

Also when next animation?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254993456649076769/1305356419360362496/ezgif-3-a2d6df983f.gif

[warped iron]

Something is brewing…

[potent sorrel]

Understanable

[warped iron]

There’s a reason I have a 76gb baked cache for a fluid sim

[potent sorrel]

76gb is already same amount of shit i have downloaded from workshop and gmod to sfm💀

How tf u even manage to get 76gb Chace

[warped iron]

cache

Baked info

Baked water

Simulation

[potent sorrel]

Контра: SCPSL

[torpid dock]

very diffrent thing, I'm generating a curve from end and start positions, I can randomize the curve points all I want but I can't randomize the curve start and end positions for some reason

[torpid dock]

what the fuck is that

[potent sorrel]

Russian

[warped iron]

You want a cyclic motion?

[torpid dock]

no I already have that

[warped iron]

I just have no clue what you’re trying to achieve

[torpid dock]

it's literally just generating the curves from 2 position values

take a start point, take an end point, draw a curve between them

and for some fucking reason you cannot add a random vector value to the start or end points

in geometry nodes

[potent sorrel]

Maybe send screenshot?

[warped iron]

Try some conversion nodes if you have them

My logic is that it may work similar to “shader to srgb”

[torpid dock]

wdym?

[potent sorrel]

@cerulean umbra you have idea to help him?

[cerulean umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

not got a clue never done any of that

[potent sorrel]

Its so over if pro Blender users get confused

[torpid dock]

well fair enough

[warped iron]

https://blenderartists.org/t/random-value-for-curve-line-vector-not-possible/1506998

[torpid dock]

not a huge problem

[warped iron]

I think this guy figured it out

[potent sorrel]

@torpid dock try joining official blender discord and ask there

[torpid dock]

well that seems to solve the problem

only problem is I'd have to create an ID-d curve value for every object

[warped iron]

This?

[torpid dock]

yeah

[warped iron]

I don’t even know what that means

[torpid dock]

the solution is to apply an ID to the randomized value, IE it only outputs 1 value for a single object with the same ID

[potent sorrel]

Try threatening blender to shut it off

[torpid dock]

this is way more tedious than just instancing the object 10 times

[cerulean umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-run-ufo-explosion-guilty-gear-strive-gif-22126943

[warped iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407922228330501/1305552009008648222/togif.gif

[torpid dock]

who propblocked the elevator

[potent sorrel]

Foundation staff if they had hands...

[torpid dock]

real

why is 173 not in a pit

like just dig a hole, fuck the little shit gon do, climb up with it's tiny ass arms?

096 is stupid too, why does not not have a bag on it's head 24/7

[distant jacinth]

Nail the bag to his head

[torpid dock]

if breaches containment we gotta bag the idiot after it mauls a thousand people to death, fuck that never take the bag off 😭

and 682, just throw it in space

[steel elbow]

incinerate all 939 instances for no reason

[torpid dock]

no containment box or anything, just void of space, it'll survive

[steel elbow]

they're a threat anyways right

[torpid dock]

939 just put a bluetooth speaker next to it so It can't hear shit

[steel elbow]

and burning them to ash is like, one of the only ways to kill them

[torpid dock]

nice echolocation dipshit, here's all of cocomelon on repeat

[torpid dock]

the foundation won't kill anything

"we're villains not monsters" ahh foundation

[potent sorrel]

Foundation "scientists" are like Black mesa scientists

Brain with no brains

[torpid dock]

3 degrees, no puzzle games completed

uncreative asses

[steel elbow]

okay well what if they were fucked up and evil and not pussies

[torpid dock]

GOC

[steel elbow]

kill everything that's dangerous, if killing it is a risk just do your containment thing

[steel elbow]

ptsd from a chair

[distant jacinth]

Some scp could cause problems if terminated

[potent sorrel]

If it bleeds, then its killable

[torpid dock]

096

682

[torpid dock]

then don't terminate those ones

[potent sorrel]

I dont think neither do all scps in scp sl do any cause upon death

682 maybe buy not 173, 096, 049, 106

[torpid dock]

burn the 939, throw 173 in a pit cause if you turn that shi to dust it'll start suffocating people

[potent sorrel]

Foundation can make new 939's i hear

[steel elbow]

682 is bullshit
what do you mean the highly adaptive reptile that you're trying to kill can't just adapt to the acid you're keeping it in

is it stupid

[torpid dock]

682 is dumb as fuck

cause like the acid came in containers

[steel elbow]

SHATTER 035'S ASS

[torpid dock]

just make your skin the material that the acid came in

[potent sorrel]

035 is probably one of the EASIEST to contain

[torpid dock]

079 just unplug

why does it have power?

only turn it on for testing

[potent sorrel]

I mean he makes u possesive and makes u eager to put mask on

If ur in his radius

Otherwise one shot is all it takes to kill the host

[torpid dock]

great, cover it in a concrete box bigger than it's effective radius

[steel elbow]

it plays with people's minds and constantly spews some extremely corrosive liquid shit

why are you not killing it

what reason do you have to keep this god damn thing alive

[torpid dock]

concrete cures in hours, it corrodes shit? just pour more

[steel elbow]

IT MAKES PEOPLE KILL THEMSELVES FOR IT'S ENTERTAINMENT JUST KILL IT GOD DAMN IT

[torpid dock]

we have an infinite budget bro 😭

[potent sorrel]

"Omg gotta test it and find out how many scientists die!!"

[steel elbow]

ermmm akshualley

glass is the most resistant to it's acid

[torpid dock]

and

[steel elbow]

so that's the best to contain it..

[torpid dock]

glass isn't easy to pour

just cause diamonds are the strongest element doesn't mean we make knives out of fucking diamonds

[steel elbow]

well why don't we

why don't we make bulletproof vests with diamonds

smh...

[torpid dock]

cause it's FUCKING EXPENSIVE

and heavy as fuck

[steel elbow]

has minecraft taught people nothing

[torpid dock]

diamonds has a density of 3g/cm3

so 3 tonnes per m3

it's vulnerable to shattering

you can shatter diamonds with a hammer

it's strong sure, but it's molecular structure isn't immortal

[steel elbow]

just make it then

smh

[torpid dock]

anyway I say we give 106 a playstation with COD

the bastard loves torturing people

let it just bully kids on COD

[steel elbow]

true...

[torpid dock]

or make him a software developer

those bastards might as well be 106

[steel elbow]

how much would constantly supplying new controllers cost

[torpid dock]

surely cheaper than D-class

and foundation staff

someone needs to do a price evaluation on the cost of replacing 106's controllers over foundation staff killed per breach

[warped iron]

The 76gb bake btw

[potent sorrel]

Is that the fountain from scp sl bridge?

76gb is too much for this little shit

[warped iron]

Yes the poo fountain

[potent sorrel]

76gb worth it

[warped iron]

That’s the reality of physics simulations

[potent sorrel]

Now optimize it

Till its 2kb

[warped iron]

Buddy

It took 3 hrs to bake

[simple moss]

Wtf blue saddam hussein in AA room???

[potent sorrel]

HOW DO YOU EVEN COME IP WITH THIS LMFAO

[warped iron]

Saddam hussein hideout

Covered by anomalous shit

[potent sorrel]

Make it 3 second

[distant jacinth]

No one is gonna find him there

[warped iron]

SupFarto

[potent sorrel]

Sup

Hmmm soup..

https://tenor.com/view/fart-fart-gun-evil-laugh-evil-scientist-gif-21438364

[torpid dock]

why is it so high res

[warped iron]

512 res

Max res is 1024 btw

[torpid dock]

w h y

[warped iron]

Quality

Didn’t like 128

Wanted to go 300, but was like “it’s gonna take shit ton of time to bake, why can’t I just make it stupidly high quality?”

[torpid dock]

brain damage

[warped iron]

nonono

peak

[torpid dock]

was it worth it?

[cerulean umbra]

if thats 76gb i wonder how much movie quality stuff takes

https://youtu.be/KPOvBPRYkts

[tired sparrow]

quite a lot

that's why some movies are expensive

[cerulean umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-2319601784744478471

[potent sorrel]

Whats the max resolution blender can take

If making a poster

[torpid dock]

1024 probably

the value dictates how many times the simulation are is divided

and you can only divide an object so many times before it becomes just solid vertexes

[potent sorrel]

1024x1024???

[torpid dock]

no, subdivision levels

so about a million vertices

if we're talking about the simulation are being a square

nope I forgot how subidivisons work for a moment

[potent sorrel]

Brain disintegrate

[torpid dock]

yeah well I'm probably getting something wrong anyway

4^512 would be like a quadrillion vertices

[potent sorrel]

Always that feeling forgetting stuff when u need them

[torpid dock]

nvm omg

it is actually subdivision

[potent sorrel]

Make a blanket with 16k subdivisions

[torpid dock]

@warped iron how many vertices are in that fluid simulation?

[torpid dock]

16K vertices? easy.
16K subdivisions? you'd need more GPUs than every AI company has combined

because subdivisions are recursive

so every layer of subidivsion dividies not by the original vertex amount, but by the subdivided vertex amount

[potent sorrel]

Do that 16k on i3 540

Nuclear power plant

[torpid dock]

it would just be comically slow

you can actually render anything you want, even cycles on like 10 year old hardware

it's just really... really... slow

[potent sorrel]

10yo system is like

1080ti

Which is same as 3060 without dlss or anything

But eats shit ton of energy

Idk the 30's series seemed more hype than 40's

[torpid dock]

no a 3060 is mad different from a 10 series

just in every way

even a 10 and 20 series are nothing alike for rendering

[potent sorrel]

Some ppl would take 1080ti over 3090 (basic)

[torpid dock]

are they... autistic?

[potent sorrel]

So called "techtokers"? Yes

[torpid dock]

techtokers are about as intelligent as a pack of ants

[potent sorrel]

I mean they want more fps, but yeah good luck with that unsupported softwares, high PSU eating ass and in a year

[torpid dock]

doesn't take a fucking genius to know a 3090 will crush a 1080ti in performance

[torpid dock]

a 3090 has like several times the transistor count of a 1080, are they stupid?

[potent sorrel]

Not to mention the modern softwares that are for any new gpu

[torpid dock]

I know the 1080Ti was goated

but it's not beatin a 3090

[potent sorrel]

My 5700xt can eat it

1080ti will be glazed so hardly its sad

[torpid dock]

depends

1080ti has more cuda cores and vram but it's cores are slower

so it really depends on application

but a 3090 will eat a 1080ti for breakfast no hesitation

3x cuda cores, vulkan support, DLSS, ray tracing cores, double the VRAM amount

the only world in which a 1080ti is beating a 3090 is if that 3090 is also cooking you a 3 course meal on the side and doing your homework while also running cyberpunk in the background

[potent sorrel]

If u got the founders edition

They only have 1 fan i think

Other companies do 2-3 fan which is just better for cooling

I prefer taking 2 fan gpus

[torpid dock]

it makes absolutely

0 diffrence

they all work well enough

the partner cards with multiple fans are usually smaller tho

[potent sorrel]

I remember having Gtx960 asus mini, it was so small yet so good

Then switched to 1660ti 2 fan

Now 5700xt

[torpid dock]

I think the 20 series had the best looking founders edition cards

the 1080s were kinda cool

the 30s and 40s are bland af

[potent sorrel]

I had 3 diff cpus
First i3-540
Second i7-2600k (most iconic cpu i had)
Third and now R5 5500

[torpid dock]

I still have an i5-2400 layin somewhere

[azure valve]

I'd like to ask what are the benefits of the Scientist membership that I purchased.

[torpid dock]

you get bullied in meme zone

that's about it

[potent sorrel]

!patreon

[cursive saffron]

https://www.patreon.com/HubertMoszka

[potent sorrel]

Look there, it must be saying

Difference between it and others

@azure valve @azure valve

[torpid dock]

wow you just get exclusive updates

that's tuff

[azure valve]

But I've already purchased a Scientist membership and how should I get my benefits?

[torpid dock]

u gotta link ur pateron to DC

also why u in art discussion

[dusky crest]

why are you guys talking about patreon in fucking art

[potent sorrel]

I have no idea? He came and asked

So i helped

[dusky crest]

fair

[sick sundial]

This is art-discussion, please refrain from discussing Patreon too much.
Besides, I thought this might help you
https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Getting-Discord-access

[potent sorrel]

Cracky is NOT escaping them allegations

Tbh discord needs to make notification when ur message gets forwarde

[chilly nest]

the humble @

[polar hearth]

I too lazy

[chilly nest]

hate

rage

[tired sparrow]

fortnite

[marble tulip]

making a ntf zombie

stitched together back to backl... cool i think

[tired sparrow]

which mtf

new one?

[marble tulip]

ye

[pine geode]

oh that's rad i love that

stitched together 049 zombies are epic

[compact moss]

049 be like "yea he's cured"

[chrome terrace]

Because it will eventually take it off, that’s the only thing I see wrong.

[torpid dock]

which allegations

[torpid dock]

and? put it back, we need to put it back eventually anyway

096 should be wearing a bag so often that it starts loving mirrors

[chrome terrace]

What about plastic, does the acid react like a normal liquid?

[potent sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/omega-fortnite-brick-stonks-brick-racist-gif-23928483

[chrome terrace]

Only if the surface below the diamond is stronger than diamond because it has been tested and diamonds just pummel the surface beneath it

[torpid dock]

I was never beating those anyway

I'm eastern european, it's engraved into my dna

[torpid dock]

no, just needs to harder than it's bonds

so forged steel should work

the reason it doesn't work on anvils is because those are usually cast

diamonds are strong yes, but they can be surprisingly easily cracked

made easier if it's got imperfections in it

[chrome terrace]

Forgot about that

[torpid dock]

everyone forgets about the humble forged steel

[chrome terrace]

Very true

[torpid dock]

who would win, precious gemstone made over millions of years under extreme heat and pressure, or carbonated iron that's been squished

[fading cave]

Because Diamonds are hard and brittle

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[fading cave]

I'm pretty sure Gold is a much softer but can handle more of a beating

[torpid dock]

yes

cause it deforms instead of shattering

[torpid dock]

yes buddy, fortnite

[potent sorrel]

I swear im not delusion, i posted the hunt down the freeman video now i cant find it in showcase

[azure valve]

???????

[placid imp]

Not delusional, just schizophrenic

D:

[indigo kestrel]

is there a public repository with the SCP models?

and/or the weapon models

[warped iron]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xRmOFzZITL4IxbhkqUqgMRoUr23Bg2lD?usp=sharing
^ my rigged human models and misc assets, mostly outdated

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19UANlZWKANK4JFZCUAuxXA2WZonltoI4
^ seernix’s ports, having practically everything, except the new stuff. Heavy coming after the update goes public

[indigo kestrel]

ty!

[warped iron]

Might include my fixed nw rigs

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11YJLQdEYiBApx5nYdxe_mcdAvQCjQN4i?usp=sharing

[pine geode]

seems like all of them have messed up mats

really good rigs though

[flint panther]

Me when KOs

[potent sorrel]

I swear

[warped iron]

Forgor to pack textures

Mats are good

But uhhh

Find missing textures

If you know how to do that

[weary garden]

black ops guy sit posture

[flint panther]

I don’t remember chad face there

[wooden girder]

Why does he kinda look like tony soprano

[glossy acorn]

@tender condor are you garryshitman

your art seems to be fairly similar to them

[warped iron]

Who tf is garry shit man tfff

[glossy acorn]

this guy #art-showcase message

#art-showcase message also this

[warped iron]

Ohhh

I remember that guy yeah

He got banned on our server for saying some weird shit and posting pornographic art (multiple times)

[lapis cobalt]

He is a character

[warped iron]

Nah I don’t think the art styles match

[lapis cobalt]

He seemed to have stolen art from the internet

[glossy acorn]

i do have a bit more proof

by any chance are you in the project borealis server?

but they maybe just a art thief

or are an alt account

to evade the mute

[warped iron]

What if

It might sound crazy but what if

They’re both Japanese

[potent sorrel]

A well known retard

[glossy acorn]

chinese

the thing is their art on their account is so similar art style

especially with the logos and stuff

[potent sorrel]

Didn he also criticize ppls art too much?

[glossy acorn]

he stole art also and he got called out in 5k server

[potent sorrel]

It was funny cuz

take cry of fear model
put in blender
say its your OC

And then censor gun making it look weird

[fleet jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934339843620753438/1139195961755832390/togif.gif

[potent sorrel]

@weary garden ban?

[glossy acorn]

lmfaoooo

guy was also in hyperity discord and said some fucked up shit about school shootings

i cant find it as they deleted it, but i remember clearly

[potent sorrel]

Digital foot print

[warped iron]

That’s just a small part from the conversation. The full one was so funny but is now lost media cuz he got banned and messages deleted

[potent sorrel]

Once posted, always remembered

[potent sorrel]

His bio says he is a game dev
Sure he will probably make better game than scp 5k
in unreal engine

[warped iron]

All started cuz harper noticed that “his” model was stolen from sketchfab

[glossy acorn]

pretty sure most of his stuff are stock assets

the stuff he shared in project borealis discord

[warped iron]

Honestly

[glossy acorn]

which i dont mind

[warped iron]

UE5 sucks testicles

[glossy acorn]

but kinda scummy to claim it as your owns

[warped iron]

Game wise

[glossy acorn]

eh, its better than godot and unity, to develop your own games

IMO

[warped iron]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[potent sorrel]

His "OC" is literally just cry of fear model

[glossy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-2777893510283028272

[potent sorrel]

Hows that original

[glossy acorn]

i find the process much easier in unreal

than unity or godot

[warped iron]

Easier to asset flip yea

[glossy acorn]

mf

i create my own assets >:(

[potent sorrel]

Gotta blend them fruits

[glossy acorn]

although there are asset flippers

[warped iron]

But to make something good looking and good performant

[vestal gorge]

buying and using third party assets isnt uncommon in game dev

even in AAA games

Half-Life Alyx has quite a few

[warped iron]

Ik

But by asset flips I mostly mean almost 0 original content

[vestal gorge]

I mean it's nice if you don't have 100% third party assets

[potent sorrel]

The tom from talking tom is actually a bought model, yet game is successful

[vestal gorge]

but some developers can't avoid it if they aren't artistically capable, and are instead great programmers

[glossy acorn]

yeah its from turbosquid

lol

[glossy acorn]

i know a few people who are both great dev and artist

[potent sorrel]

A right model in a right game can make all the difference

Or rather said
A third partys model

[glossy acorn]

me on the other hand im an artist and cant comprehend coding, so i stuck to blueprint :D

which is coding but visual scripting

[warped iron]

Now as punishment
Replace all new assets with similar ones form SCP CB

[vestal gorge]

Making good looking stuff isn't about making stuff look literally as good as you can, its about making a cohesive and collected visual experience

[warped iron]

Basically it’s about style

[glossy acorn]

only up

[warped iron]

блять

Who said asset flips can’t be successful

[glossy acorn]

the only asset flip parkour i liked was chained together

pretty good game

it was unique

[warped iron]

Roblox obby on top 🔥🗣️🗣️

[glossy acorn]

i have 200 hours on roblox obby creator

i for some reason grinded on that game

[potent sorrel]

A trash can make all the difference in the scenebuild

[glossy acorn]

dont play roblos anymore tho

[warped iron]

The amount of time I spent on lumber tycoon 2

Peak game

[vestal gorge]

half my camera roll is old pieces of wood and metal

[warped iron]

I might be stupid but what is a camera roll

[vestal gorge]

my camera gallery on my phone

we call it a camera roll

because in the old days it was a film roll with physical film and they called it "rolls"

the term stuck and now galleries on your phone are called camera rolls

[warped iron]

Thank you good sir

For your splendid explanation

[warped iron]

Ok now why wood and metal

[glossy acorn]

crafstmanship

[vestal gorge]

reference material

[glossy acorn]

oh

lol

[vestal gorge]

best way to create realistic textures is to reference from real life

[warped iron]

I got this cool green parrot photo

Can’t really see that it’s green

[torpid dock]

I can't show my camera roll cause it would get me permabanned

[warped iron]

But it is

[glossy acorn]

what is it hentai

[torpid dock]

hah no, gore and racism

[vestal gorge]

then don't show it

[warped iron]

When real-time simulated water

[glossy acorn]

average estonian

[torpid dock]

not plannin to

[vestal gorge]

fascinating

[torpid dock]

that shit's not real time bro 😭

3 hour bake is not real time

[warped iron]

It is

It’s just slow

[glossy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-scientist-walking-half-life-goldsource-gif-23946902

[torpid dock]

real time means it renders at the same pace that it's played back

[glossy acorn]

how did my gif work and then not work

[warped iron]

Technically you could run it real-time at 0.5 fps

[torpid dock]

I mean yeah if you scale the time enough

[glossy acorn]

bro is ue5 spokesperson

[warped iron]

When raytracing in sl

[glossy acorn]

gonna say lumen and nanite now runs realtime

[torpid dock]

ue5 runs really good wtf are you on about

[glossy acorn]

lmfao

[potent sorrel]

Mine would only embarrass me

[warped iron]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[glossy acorn]

ue5 runs okay

not good

not realtime

[torpid dock]

iunno if yall have played fortnite in the past couple of years

[vestal gorge]

it runs really good if you have an RTX 4090 super with a top of the line CPU and also 500GB of space to waste

[potent sorrel]

Weak ahh hardware

[torpid dock]

but that shi runs like butter

[warped iron]

*Not quarantined

[glossy acorn]

mf i am running it with a gtx 1050ti and corei5 7th gen

[torpid dock]

that's a you problem buddy

[vestal gorge]

make sure you dont forget to engage you liquid nitrogen rocket coolers before you open the UE5 launcher

[torpid dock]

[glossy acorn]

nuclear reactor coolers

[warped iron]

Lumen and nanite are not that good

[potent sorrel]

No wonder ya complain abt software not running smoothly

[torpid dock]

the editor? yeah don't even bother tryna run that with a 1050

[glossy acorn]

atleast its better than unity, in case of importing stuff

B)

[warped iron]

Idk

Maybe

[torpid dock]

but like if it's a finished project it runs insanely well

[potent sorrel]

Tjoc is a good example
Scp 5k too

Both games run VERY well

[torpid dock]

but also look at UE5, shit's beautiful of course it's gonna run like ass

[glossy acorn]

i wonder how fast my game would be when i package it

[potent sorrel]

Beauty has their prices

[glossy acorn]

bros the diamond monopoly spokesperson

[torpid dock]

exactly

[warped iron]

You can make things look good and run good at the same time

[torpid dock]

you can still just use UE4 if you feel like UE5 is not worth it

[potent sorrel]

So called optimization

[warped iron]

bake

[potent sorrel]

NW needs that

[glossy acorn]

ue4 is good but you have to mostly rely on baking lighting D:

[warped iron]

Also yeah

Wtf is sl lighting

Worse than lumen smh

[glossy acorn]

yeah sl lighting is something else man

[torpid dock]

yeah the benefit in UE5 is the real time effects

[glossy acorn]

3 light sources in the same light

or 2

i forgot

[warped iron]

Varies

[torpid dock]

lumen with nanite looks insanely good, but you also need some pretty insane hardware to run it

[glossy acorn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glossy acorn]

nanite is not good

[torpid dock]

iunno I think it's pretty good

[warped iron]

Nanite stills causes overdraws but claims to eliminate that problem

Lumen is demanding but I’m my experience not as much as nanite

[glossy acorn]

lumen is kinda cool

and neat

my messages are not loadin

help

[warped iron]

When I was testing it in Fortnite

[glossy acorn]

fucksake

[potent sorrel]

Average scenebuild

[warped iron]

Still, there are better ways of doing dynamic GI

[potent sorrel]

Thats just NW standart

[glossy acorn]

up the ambient lighting

[potent sorrel]

UP WITH THE VOLUMETRIC LIGHTING

[warped iron]

There’s one based on light probes

That the finals uses

Ddgi i think it is

[torpid dock]

yes, the solution is 5 lights for every lamp

[warped iron]

Volumetrics are expensive af

[potent sorrel]

They cost???

[warped iron]

A lot

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yogurt-yum-yummy-food-gif-17599902469282887748

[potent sorrel]

So u telling me that

This lighting costs money in whatever software ya use

[warped iron]

I mean performance wise

[potent sorrel]

Ah yeah, thats what nw need

[warped iron]

Not the cost

[potent sorrel]

Up with the volumetric light

And bring back loud flashbangs

[warped iron]

They did some clunky volumetrics based on post processing I think
The smoke in the new heavy in some rooms

[potent sorrel]

Didnt see em

[warped iron]

I need answers from mr Northwood, why did they decide to use a billion lights in each room?

Please

[potent sorrel]

They added... radius...

Need... more.. RADIUS

[warped iron]

Buddy, lighting in sfm doesn’t work like in any other software

Making shading blurry won’t fix much

[torpid dock]

blur ALL the lights

[potent sorrel]

No just add more radius+linear+itensity for 1 lighting

Woala

U have entire flashbang in a room with just 1 light

No need for 5

[warped iron]

Wtf is linear

You mean like

Linear light fallof

Or

Wha

[potent sorrel]

It just brighs everything up even if itensity is 1

Good for rim light

Idk its full name lmfao

I never pay much attention at it

Linear attentuation

Yeah that

[torpid dock]

source

[potent sorrel]

Shit just flashbangs once its just slightly turned on

[torpid dock]

it brightens everything

[warped iron]

HDRP does have a radius parameter for lights. Radius in lighting is a relatively new thing in game engines, making the light source bigger and shading smoother

[torpid dock]

is it like enviroment light in blender where it applies to everything without shadows?

[torpid dock]

correct solution would be to turn off shadows for the light objects so the singular emission light can effect what's behing the light too

[potent sorrel]

Inshallah one day we will get s2fm

[torpid dock]

I'm assuming they're using multiple lights to create the effect bounce lighting would normally have where the back of the light is illuminated too

[warped iron]

Yes

Placing area light on the floor… smh…

Disgusting

[torpid dock]

bruh

[warped iron]

Maybe it looks good on the environment, but not on the characters

[potent sorrel]

Chat quick question
Should i make Entropy zero 2 poster?

[warped iron]

If you look at seernix map ports you can see all the lighting sources positions but all area ls got turned into point ls

Using ls as an abbreviation for light source

Guys let’s switch to URP

And redo all the shaders again!

Isn’t it fun!

[potent sorrel]

No...

[warped iron]

Urp is better imo

100% not biased

Not like I work on any SCP project with VALRAVENS in them that’s running on urp

[potent sorrel]

We have to follow NW standarts

1. Put as much as useless light sources u can
2. No optimization

СамделалДаКрутяк

[potent sorrel]

NorthWood standarts on scenebuild

[vestal gorge]

hey- the lights we put in hcz all have a purpose

[warped iron]

I HATE it

[potent sorrel]

No, put more

[vestal gorge]

why

[potent sorrel]

Make ppl with i3 cpu suffer

[warped iron]

Looks bad

Performance bad

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gif-11135374024523148509

[warped iron]

Riddle me this… food consumer… why so many?

[vestal gorge]

where are you seeing so many area lights lmao

[pseudo forum]

Ok, let's talk a bit. Performance isn't depending on how many lights you have. It depends on how many objects are concerned by a light and if shadows are enabled. You can have 100 lights, if those have a small range, not many objects will get lighted by it, it'll still get correct fps. You can have 10 giant lights, impacting multiple rooms at the same time and you'll get awful fps.

There are many light in our rooms, and most of those are faking light bounces. range is low, very localized, and shadows are completely disabled. in a room, there are only main lights sources which get shadows. Left lights won't get any shadows, and will stay in a small range, low def.

[warped iron]

Hold up I’ll respond in a little
Dinning rn

Foodeating

[pseudo forum]

Also, we don't use volumetric. Volumetric effects you're seeing in game are faked with some shaders.

Take your time dinning dw

[warped iron]

I know that yeah

[warped iron]

Thanks

[potent sorrel]

Lets remove the map!

[pseudo forum]

Speaking of

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[pseudo forum]

Surface is concerned a lot by this issue

[chrome terrace]

Because it requires lots of large lights?

[pseudo forum]

Because the model isn't separated, it's trully a very old one. so each light getting in contact with it concerns the whole area, mostly, even if lights don't have the rest of the map in range

• it's a very large area. and we have to use large lights yes, because of its emptiness

• culling cannot really work here, since you just see everything around you

[torpid dock]

surface rework, NW will learn how to make a sightline that isn't the entire zone

[potent sorrel]

Just remake surface

And add ....

1 million lights...

[warped iron]

Waiting for my pasta rn

[potent sorrel]

They removed dark spots in 14.0

[potent sorrel]

Bro thinks he is rich

https://tenor.com/view/rich-compressed-gold-drg-deep-rock-galactic-were-rich-gif-27496741

[pseudo forum]

Ty, you're reminding me I've missed the lunch

[torpid dock]

I meant more that the entire surface is a straight line

so if you have a decent magnification weapon or just good vision you can spawnpeek with ease

nobody is complaining cause the game has a TTK longer than the heat death of the universe but it's still a problem

[warped iron]

Is there a technical limitation not allowing to use baked lighting? Either probes or lightmaps? Or are they just more performance costing?

[vocal roost]

speaking of volumetric lights, is the fucked up layering gonna be fixed

[torpid dock]

nuh uh

[warped iron]

Black fog overlays the volumetrics yeah

[vocal roost]

more than that

[warped iron]

?

[torpid dock]

I think he means the fuckshittery with flashlights, NV scopes and SCP fog

cause sometimes you can see players through the ice SCP fog thing

[vocal roost]

some textures go over it too

[vocal roost]

?

for now the fake volumetrics look really bad because of the layering

[warped iron]

Classic transparent layering issue

[torpid dock]

yeah it's really obvious with NV scopes

[vocal roost]

i’m talking about 14.0

[torpid dock]

they broke even more shi with 14.0?

[vocal roost]

the fake volumetric lights in fan room and other rooms

[vocal roost]

no? can u read

[torpid dock]

I cannot

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22727788

[steel elbow]

cocainer

[warped iron]

Huh that actually makes a lot of sense now. Also can you explain the “flatness” HDRP has sometimes? Like on the surface, on Gate A, the lighting seems to not affect the specularity? I notice this inconsistency a lot in the game. Things either appear too diffuse or glossy.

[pseudo forum]

Because CB models don't have correct maps for that

[warped iron]

I know

But it also happens with the other models

[pseudo forum]

Which one

[warped iron]

If only I could go ingame and take some screenshots

[pseudo forum]

Do you have a zone in mind ?

[warped iron]

Hold up brb

[pseudo forum]

specifically

Take your time

I'm working at the same time

[torpid dock]

NW dev

working

why are you lying to windop like that?

[pseudo forum]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

Half lying

[warped iron]

Don’t spit on the art team like that

[pseudo forum]

I'm working for my real job

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/my-fault-my-bad-sorry-gif-5650871889767493929

[potent sorrel]

Average blender users interaction

[warped iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407075419586560/1307488323480322168/lv_0_20241117003113.gif

[torpid dock]

hop on blender and we can be cutie patooties together
https://tenor.com/view/02-zero-two-darling-in-the-franxx-singing-anime-gif-17414566

[potent sorrel]

NO

DONT TOUCH ME

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-touch-gif-4066678553980908484

[gilded river]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-cow-holy-cow-gif-25938150

[warped iron]

This is what I mean. It’s much more noticeable on the pre 14.0 revolver because of how shiny it’s supposed to be and how dull it looks on surface and some other places.

@pseudo forum

[vocal roost]

that gif is from the tutorial tower which has no light sources

[warped iron]

Same happens on gate a

And other places

[pseudo forum]

You're in surface

or gate A

where reflections aren't working well

because everything is flat

[torpid dock]

oh cause the materials don't have any reflection data?

so they don't contribute to reflections

[warped iron]

Ok but why does HDRP do that? There’s clearly a light source there, but it doesn’t affect the specular parts of the material? When we had an HDRP build I noticed the same thing.

[pseudo forum]

Let me get it on Unity

[warped iron]

Get what

Sorry I feel sleepy after dinner

[torpid dock]

surface probably

checking what's causing the lack of reflections

[pseudo forum]

I'm opening unity to check

[torpid dock]

wouldn't it be hilarious if reflections were disabled on surface this entire time

[warped iron]

https://tenor.com/view/pixelpro-pixelprophecy-programming-bsod-update-gif-5908433894633626331

[pseudo forum]

I guess you were there

[warped iron]

Probably

That’s from wiki

But still the same problem

[pseudo forum]

This light is very large, which result in a flatter and uniform amount of light everywhere, at a low intensity. + the fact wood is flat. + the actual angle + reflection probe not being very good

If you get under the next light, which is a lot closer from you, you'll start getting more reflections, because light is closer

[vocal roost]

i think part of the problem is the lack of AO on the viewmodels

[pseudo forum]

AO isn't really playing a lot in the reflection quality, but it certainly helps to get better volumes and shapes in models

[vocal roost]

yea it just makes it overall look worse when the lighting is flat

sad that hdrp made the viewmodels look worse

[warped iron]

Erm you’re standing under a different light source

[pseudo forum]

Uh ? Yeah that's the point, I don't follow you

[potent sorrel]

What if we add more volumetric light?..

[pseudo forum]

game dies

[warped iron]

Uhh sorry I misread my bad

[pseudo forum]

All gud

[warped iron]

Still got a question

Why not baked lighting?

[potent sorrel]

Add... more... volumetric

Fuck the i3 core users...

[pseudo forum]

Because game is procedural, so we can't apply baking on any rooms. it doesn't work since you can't move rooms at runtime with baked lightmaps. Surface zone is the only exception for that. However we got so much work to do on every other aspect, we prefer work on this one during SZ rework when it will happen.

Yet we must find the good workflow for a zone like this one before baking it

[warped iron]

But cubemap reflections can even move in real-time (elevator)

So it’s weird you can’t do that with a light map or diffuse probe

Thank you for your time good sir

Today I learned more about HDRP

And came to the conclusion… go back to BRP

Keep up with the cooking, art team
Going eepy mode

[pseudo forum]

reflections can, but not baked lightmap, Unity technologies has been struggling for years with this shit. 😭 they've implemented volumetric light probes tech, which sounds cool, but never tested it yet. Might be worth next unity version

[pseudo forum]

You're welcome ! Always glad to tchat with you guys

[warped iron]

Personally like light probes more than lightmaps

Hey we got adaptive probe volume in urp that looks rly cool

[tired sparrow]

I think you should try because I think blender uses this system in eevee

[warped iron]

Yes

[karmic reef]

its for narezki???

[tired sparrow]

Also speaking of generating rooms

Doesn’t scp unity do that @pseudo forum

They have had a seed generation and lighting was baked

So I’m unsure why baked would be a problem

Also when is ao getting fixed

[warped iron]

But blender made it possible to move the probe only in 4.2 with eevee next release

[warped iron]

Was it baked?

Hold up

[tired sparrow]

I think so

[warped iron]

I haven’t seen scp Unity in a really long time

[pseudo forum]

Self made tool if I remember

[tired sparrow]

Scp unity was in a time before urp

Iirc

[pseudo forum]

Oh, as well, one more limit is the 079 blackout

[tired sparrow]

Current 079 blackout is still a bit buggy sometimes

Oh also aren’t yall switching to unity 5? Or smth like that

I don’t know what it was called

[pseudo forum]

Unity 6

Work in progress if I'm right

[warped iron]

I’ve seen someone write a script for turning off/on a lightmap

Don’t think it could be a big problem

[pseudo forum]

Still a bunch of things to do, and in worst case, we got the nuke lighting

[warped iron]

Ik I just really wanted to discuss this with someone

[pseudo forum]

To be fair

I want good lighting

I'm always amazed by how SCP Unity did their areas

[potent sorrel]

Its a shame they discontinued it, it had so much potential

[pseudo forum]

Dramas

[potent sorrel]

Scp 5k devs living on hopes and dreams yet they continue

Northwood with 18k per month

[warped iron]

Form what I’ve read HDRP has a thing called lighting scenarios for this exact purpose

[warped iron]

Valravn cough cough

[midnight talon]

SCP 5K shut their Patreon off because they thought they were being greedy

It wasn't even something they needed to do

They just did it

[warped iron]

Unity was indeed… the peak

[midnight talon]

And the game price can already supplement development

[warped iron]

Orange glowing light bulbs illuminating white light… game deserved to get cancelled…

[potent sorrel]

Feel of guilt got to them

[potent sorrel]

Never heard of it

[glossy acorn]

didnt their kickstarter be insanely successful

[prisma plaza]

they look so sigma

[polar hearth]

scp sl hates me

[jolly pebble]

Traced from a GMod screenshot, dunno if it's worthy enough to post.

[mellow lake]

pretty sick

[prisma plaza]

this is fire

[marble tulip]

Banger idea in my head rn.

F1 menu type art of scientist guard and d class based on 🙈 🙉 🙊 .... Need to get better at painting

Got to think of creative ways to cover the guards ears tho

[serene jackal]

#art-showcase message scientist

[ruby furnace]

@sick bluff Please only share artworks in #art-showcase

[wintry patrol]

what did bro send

[fierce cargo]

@wide robin can I use these sounds?

[vocal roost]

some screenshot with incoherent text

[ruby furnace]

It wasn't even a screenshot just a photo of their monitor...

[torpid dock]

aye there are a lot of ways to show off your art

[wide robin]

sure

[torpid dock]

but maybe let's stick to exportin it for now

[wide robin]

sorry for the double ping but what are you gonna use them for if you dont mind me asking

[fierce cargo]

My game

its free just so you know

[wide robin]

oh nice

whats it called

[fierce cargo]

https://gamejolt.com/games/SCPSecuritySHIFT/778673

[wide robin]

cool

ill be sure to check it out

[dusky crest]

whatever core this is

[potent sorrel]

Art showcase kinda active lately

Getting more ppl posting than usual and same ppl

[chrome terrace]

Looks great

[potent sorrel]

Samsung AI fix is kinda impressive ngl
Left- After samsung AI
Right- Before samsung AI

Not only it fixes its pixelated status but increased format

[summer python]

shii

[potent sorrel]

Lighting got better

[glossy trench]

Can I send a YouTube link to #art-showcase with my animation?

[humble bramble]

Sure!

There's a chance @cursive saffron might automatically delete it though

It doesn't like messages without an image

[glossy trench]

Okay, thanks!

[wintry patrol]

i wish scp sl players would actually do this

[wintry patrol]

it looks better low quality imo

[wintry patrol]

now this looks fucking fire

[steel elbow]

#art-showcase message i thought this was an iterator

[civic spindle]

Can be

[dusky crest]

Goofy version

[weary garden]

!artist @civic spindle

[cursive saffron]

I successfully added Artist "Are We Cool Yet?" to maroj53

[civic spindle]

Thanks

[frigid epoch]

#art-showcase message

this is me btw. when you’re being mean to me this is who you’re being mean to

[azure valve]

if anyone is interested to use this little guy somewhere, here it is without a background as well

[civic spindle]

Who is being mean to you?

[vocal roost]

was this made with ai

well that’s hardly a question

it was clearly made with ai

[azure valve]

yeah sometimes i use ai, but generally i prefer to do as much as i can manually, AI helps me refine certain things or create some textures

[azure valve]

fr it's great for learning because on start you don't need to watch tutorials with predefined patterns how to do something, you just can learn based on your own ideas, where the execution can be different for each one

[vocal roost]

well how much work did the ai do here

also you should disclose that you used ai

[azure valve]

textures and model corrections

[vestal gorge]

always disclose your ai usage

[azure valve]

Yeah, you're right about that. But i don't usually label my work as 100% done by me, and if someone asks, i'll honestly tell them that i occasionally use ai for support.

to be fair, i'm editing the message to say that i used AI for assistance

[vocal roost]

i feel like you should do significantly more texture cleanup

it looks almost fully ai

[potent sorrel]

I feel like AI can be allowed as long as you admit

[vocal roost]

depends

[undone elbow]

1

[alpine citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-sait-salt-saint-grapple-worm-gif-14770811959550479694

[steel elbow]

YEAAHHHH

[alpine citrus]

Rain World is by far my favourite game, love to see art of it here

[steel elbow]

A joyous occassion

[torpid dock]

test animation, I'm going to try making impact frames but it's already almost 1AM so I'll leave the hard part for tomorrow

[potent sorrel]

Welcome back... SCP 5K model

[halcyon sparrow]

Peak

Can we just give every character the old chaos gas mask please

[charred girder]

Another image of it

[potent sorrel]

Yep... welcome back scp5k UIU model

[charred girder]

Really? Dont the UIU in 5K have tan helmets

or somethin like that lol

[potent sorrel]

Idk what team exactly

But it was the team we play as in raid area12

[charred girder]

I think you may be mistakened by the SD because iirc they have no helmet but do have a gas mask

[charred girder]

I really dont know lol

Unless the game has some customization feature

s

[potent sorrel]

A gas mask

With blue shirt

[potent sorrel]

Looks like this but the shirt looks like if its just for home made and not for military

[charred girder]

ah fair

[charred girder]

arent they like

kinda like rubber

idk they look like it

Prob not but

the vibrant colors make it seem that way lol

Tho its based on the SAS

and the SAS are that similar color of blue

idk im yapping

[vocal roost]

that vest is from the chaos model

[charred girder]

yeah

why

[vocal roost]

because he was making a “non futuristic” looking version

[simple moss]

Looks interesting imo (even if this is just asset flip), but he's definitely need a helmet.

[simple moss]

Idk the new NTF model is not so futuristic. The only "futuristic" thing he's got only his headgear, and it's still pretty arguable.

[vocal roost]

that’s why i put it in quotations

it’s definitely not futuristic lol

just the overall vibe

[simple moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267080942011420754/1290609889210535967/convert-1.gif

[charred girder]

I didnt give him a helmet since the actual one doesnt have it

lol

[charred girder]

Ngl it was fun trying to stitch them together

[simple moss]

Their headgear is literally made of titanium plates.

According to Echoes from the veil 2.

[charred girder]

Then uhhhh
Pretend the balaclava and gas mask is made from titanium

[simple moss]

Titanium gas mask?

Damn...

[charred girder]

yeeeep

[simple moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/303447420224929792/1311064932850077746/IMG_20240924_151251.gif

[steel elbow]

really good image

[dusky crest]

Scp sl if it was good

[potent sorrel]

OH NO NOT ME
WE NEVER LOST CONTROL

[potent sorrel]

looks like one of these my little worms

half drained

[dusky crest]

I dont know anymore what is blender and what is real game

[vocal roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407174501629972/1312065721102241812/2024-11-29_172825.png?ex=674b23ec&is=6749d26c&hm=dcfa98289040c62020a676a1630459f6b786515509fe99770b26d41da0f31412&

i genuinely can barely tell which one is the higher poly one lol

[tired sparrow]

left

the right one is original

the left one has a few fucked up normals but

[vestal gorge]

@tired sparrow it's peak

[tired sparrow]

thank you

[vocal roost]

i know

took a while tho

[vestal gorge]

You're untrained in the polygon vision

[tired sparrow]

ya

[vocal roost]

no it’s easy to tell without textures and maps

also this doesn’t show anything it has curved triangles

triangle count is the same

[amber flax]

my/orig

[potent sorrel]

@wide robin why do you make wav instead of mp3?

[wide robin]

wav is an uncompressed format

[potent sorrel]

Aight. Understanable tbh

[wide robin]

if its a bigger project tho i will use mp3 to comply with discords 10 mb limit

but for shorter stuff i just use wav

[torpid dock]

wav, so cool

[potent sorrel]

Sounds like
"Woow, so cool"

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-what-i'm-saying-gif-7253831839394134095

[trail estuary]

what did you mean by this bro

😭😭😭😭

[potent sorrel]

HOW IN THE

DELETE THAT

DELETE

[trail estuary]

I did NOT expect that

[potent sorrel]

Yeah idk i want hugs

[cosmic quarry]

i mean to be fair the vid was also suggested to you so...

and it only has 8 comments so its a small vid

[trail estuary]

I agree

[trail estuary]

makes sense

[potent sorrel]

Artstyle however good

[cosmic quarry]

bro

they are straight up

goin at it

[potent sorrel]

Wym

Im either blind or fucking retarded

I only see them trynna hug

[cosmic quarry]

it looks 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 to me

[cosmic quarry]

justifies the comment i suppose

[potent sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811050426622541824/1224063109732372654/517.gif

[cosmic quarry]

wtf ive seen this gif 3 times today, all on seperate servers, and today is the first time ever seeing this gif

[fierce cargo]

Savin that

[void phoenix]

vegetable

[dusky crest]

joe what the fuck

[trail estuary]

look at the second picture

😭😭😭

I just thought it was funny

[dusky crest]

him and

[potent sorrel]

We have same fyp

So...

[trail estuary]

We DONT

[potent sorrel]

We DO

[dusky crest]

why do you have furry tiktok

then

[trail estuary]

I don't know

[trail estuary]

dude I get like Chinese videos recommend

[dusky crest]

buddy i dont know russian

[trail estuary]

we are not the same

[dusky crest]

you guys are the same

[trail estuary]

no

noxplis is a sfm user

actually makes sense that he has a furry fyp