art-discussion

[quasi gyro]

Credit where its due, it takes a lot of work

[tired sparrow]

also humans have actually been done for a while

its just animations

[tribal kernel]

like I said, the animations are done, minus some things with experimental weapons, butfor the rest of them, yep they are done.

gaurd and science boi is done anyway

that's all i heard about

[tired sparrow]

boy you don't know one thing you talking about

all humans if i recall use the same animations framework

if the animation is done for one it's done for all

[tribal kernel]

:/not:/my:/problem:/

lmao

im joking

[quasi gyro]

Currently they do yes, this could be changing in 14.0 though, we dont know

[vocal roost]

source?

[tired sparrow]

they wouldn't

[tribal kernel]

some are a bit changes for the bags to ahve physics

[tired sparrow]

making different animations for all humans would be a hassle

[tribal kernel]

so that they dont clip into the main model

[vocal roost]

who said the experiemntal weapons animations arent done?

[tribal kernel]

I just heard people talking about it, not much i think they were trolls

[midnight talon]

this is how you do a reference

[tribal kernel]

idk

[tired sparrow]

he might actually be right for that one

[midnight talon]

my plans are beyond your comprehension

[tired sparrow]

what

[vocal roost]

small amounts of clipping arent a big deal

[tribal kernel]

the 3d person ones are not, the first ones nearly

[tired sparrow]

close enough welcome basck keter

[vocal roost]

first person animations have been done for ages

[tired sparrow]

first person have been done for a while

[midnight talon]

i am not keter but i have other plans

[vocal roost]

what makes you say that

[tired sparrow]

3rd person animations

[tribal kernel]

oh

well

[tribal kernel]

idk what they are doing with their new animations of the weapons

probaly hold them like heavy does in tf2

[vocal roost]

what makes you say they arent done

[tribal kernel]

some are near to be done, but some need a bit of work

[tired sparrow]

jesus christ you are inssuferable what makes you say it is like godamn

[tribal kernel]

calm down

[vocal roost]

i’m talking about the experimental weapons specifically

i’m asking why you think they aren’t done

[tired sparrow]

why do you think they are

[vocal roost]

no need to lash out

[vocal roost]

i’m just asking since he mentioned them specifically

[tired sparrow]

and im asking you now

why do you think they are

[tribal kernel]

stop it, either way, they coming in 14.0.0

[vocal roost]

they said the animations are almost done and just being finalised, so i’m asking why he thinks the experimental weapon animations SPECIFICALLY haven’t been finished yet like the rest and just need finalisation

and i’m asking you why you think he’s right about that

[tired sparrow]

They're newer

[vocal roost]

you could’ve just said that from the start

[tribal kernel]

true

[tired sparrow]

Its common sense

[tribal kernel]

...

[tired sparrow]

Literally the newest weapons are mostly likely to be less done than older ones

[vocal roost]

sure they’re more likely but that’s literally just a baseless assumption

they’ve been in the works for at least a year at this point

[tribal kernel]

do have a point

tbh, they are probably fucked from animating so much.

its gotta be pain to animate that much detail

[vocal roost]

why do you think it took so many years

[tired sparrow]

what experimental weapons? or humans

[vocal roost]

experimental

[tribal kernel]

bruh

experimental weapons

[tired sparrow]

most likely, but as talked before in patreon channels with devs few months ago goop was forced back into working on the humans

mikel stated it one time

[tribal kernel]

k

fair

so they might have heard the communities feedback on such shit animations probably.

possibly the guard model

idk

[tired sparrow]

what

[vocal roost]

?

[tired sparrow]

no animations have been shown till now

[vocal roost]

why do u just assume they were shit

[tribal kernel]

oh yeah

[tribal kernel]

cause people talk extremally shit to the new guard model

[tired sparrow]

cause they dont like change

[tribal kernel]

yeah

they must move on for the past

[vocal roost]

what does that have to do with animations

also. people talk shit about all the models because they have their own idea of what they should look like and throw a fit when the models don’t look like that

[tired sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-backyardigans-t-pose-turn-around-uniqua-gif-23317119

[vocal roost]

they’re all great people just have unrealistic ideas of what they should be

[tribal kernel]

thats what im saying, stupids honeestly

[tired sparrow]

still have some odd looks at the guard

[vocal roost]

i have no doubt people will shit on the d class and scientist even though they look fine

[midnight talon]

i don't like it

not because the old one is better

its not in any way

[tribal kernel]

they shit on anything to get attention

[midnight talon]

but because of the dehumanization of MTF

[tired sparrow]

?

whar

[tribal kernel]

half life

[vocal roost]

this is about guards

not mtf

[midnight talon]

guard is mall cop

looks racist af

i like it

[cerulean umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/ballin-ball-dunk-basketball-meme-gif-22501240

[tribal kernel]

thats what guards in europe are

[vocal roost]

he doesn’t look racist btw people just say anything

[midnight talon]

his model does though

[vocal roost]

have you seen it

[tribal kernel]

average stereotype

[midnight talon]

i mean yeah the model is public

[vocal roost]

other than the low detail one they showed with the animation

[low quarry]

new guard is 100% racist

[vocal roost]

i mean the actual model

[midnight talon]

its confirmed

[tribal kernel]

dam it

[tribal kernel]

FUCK!

I HAVE BEEN LIED TO!

[low quarry]

but a really good husband

a really good dad

[tribal kernel]

did you work on the model?

[low quarry]

just a bit old-fashioned

[tribal kernel]

LORE?

HMM...

[vocal roost]

totally lore

[low quarry]

his views are a bit dated

[tribal kernel]

lol

[vocal roost]

goop made them all

[tribal kernel]

oh

[low quarry]

but he's like the progressive kind of racist, you know

not a hateful one

[tribal kernel]

:/

[low quarry]

he knows his views are outdated

[tribal kernel]

streamer?

[low quarry]

but decades of a lifestyle isn't easy to change from

[midnight talon]

The new chaos model lore:
Stahlhelm made out of shit and piss

[tribal kernel]

wait, how old are the actual characters in sl?

[tired sparrow]

probably a range in 25-40s

[low quarry]

but he tries to understand all for his enby child

[tired sparrow]

this sounds like the new norm

[midnight talon]

The guard thinks Larry is unneeded

And needs to be neutralized

[low quarry]

very interesting character

[tribal kernel]

thoughs on d boi new model?

[low quarry]

good representation of someone who was brought up in a traditionalist household, not knowing any better, not knowing the concepts of progressiveness

but in a new modern world he tries his best

[tribal kernel]

jan kalous is a terrorist in poland

[low quarry]

you're just making things up

[tribal kernel]

you SURE about that to d boi?

[tired sparrow]

yknow people saying guards are less equipped than mall cops are crazy

they've never seen actual mall cops vs cops in a mall

[tribal kernel]

Airports are its own story

[vocal roost]

the guards are as equipped as prison guards

[tribal kernel]

fucking packed like a ligit security guard for an fully goverment

[midnight talon]

me asking jan kalous why he is not allowed near a strip club

(He doesn't answer me)

[tribal kernel]

FUCK OFF DONT SEE HIM GO THERE!

[tired sparrow]

even prison guards aren't that equppid lol

[azure valve]

Young men getting slaughtered
Bazookas everywhere

[tired sparrow]

fucking the guards have fsp-9s

[tribal kernel]

standard cod mw weapon

[tired sparrow]

what

[vocal roost]

i mean the model

[tribal kernel]

smg mp7 in cod mw 2019 is fucking amazing!

[tired sparrow]

no i know

[low quarry]

bro police officers aren't even packing MP7s normally

I've seen like 2 police officers in my life brandishing MP7s in holster

[tribal kernel]

sl has its own problems

[tired sparrow]

im just making fun of people saying that guards should have helmets

[midnight talon]

I remember when SL had fucking laser weapons

God

Peak times

[vocal roost]

lmfao yeah

as if theyre riding a bike or something

[midnight talon]

Irl helmets are used to protect against shrapnel

[vocal roost]

safety first

[azure valve]

Cops don't have helmets

[midnight talon]

Where will you even find shrapnel in scot

Scpf

[azure valve]

Unless it's like a riot

[midnight talon]

It would be cool af if they did tho

[azure valve]

Civil Protection

[tired sparrow]

thats why theres swat

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-based-im-literally-him-hes-literally-me-gif-25725757

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

https://tenor.com/view/cornicorn-gif-3161968759910602941

[azure valve]

[tired sparrow]

@cobalt root hey thats really good

lighting is odd but

thats actually really fluid

[cobalt root]

thanks

[tired sparrow]

one thing i would say when he's like ow no offense, try and move the hand more rather than just the elbow

[cobalt root]

matveymotion gave me some really good advice

[tired sparrow]

who's that

[cobalt root]

a fellow youtuber

[tired sparrow]

oh wait

thats uhhh

he's in the server

[cobalt root]

he helped me get the tf2 knife as well as the tf2 stuff

along with other things so huge shoutout to him

[tired sparrow]

yeah he's cool

@south peak you

there you are

[cobalt root]

which hand his left or right?

[tired sparrow]

right

[cobalt root]

ok thanks

ahh i see yeah his hand aint turning

one moment

[plucky hound]

I feel like the main thing making it feel stiff is that their torso doesn't move at all

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

I beg of you, when spy shows those pictures PLEASE put 939 on em

any time green site art is mentioned it has to be 939 bro

[cobalt root]

dont worry. way ahead of you lol

[south peak]

what do you require

[potent sorrel]

idle animation

[flint plover]

where the fuck are police officers packing MP7s

[low quarry]

airport

uh it was either mp7 or mp5k actually

i dont remember

[flint plover]

i did not know airport officers could do something like that

[potent sorrel]

bruh the ready or not flash looks so alike to scp sl flash

[flint plover]

theyre probably based on the same flash grenade model

[potent sorrel]

also think so

[flint plover]

p sure they are both based on this

[potent sorrel]

yeah cuz text is the same

just logo changed

in scp sl its eagle

[flint plover]

really enjoying myself rn

[potent sorrel]

why is only 939 on left

[flint plover]

im moving the icons to the right so they are like the inverse of how i designed the voice chat on the opposite side of the screen

lol

[plucky hound]

WDYM? I thought Ready or Not used a completely different grenade model

[potent sorrel]

idk maybe its old

in source when i type ready or not pack it shows this flash

[plucky hound]

Oh wait, I think that's the 9-banger model

[potent sorrel]

@lethal nacelle will 939 attack you? i mean

furry meets furry

[chilly nest]

@lethal nacelle who is that on the left

i dont remember that SCP

[chilly nest]

every day

i pray

for a 9banger

those things are awesome

[potent sorrel]

looks like 1471 to me

[chilly nest]

it looks like a furry

[lethal nacelle]

It's me, yeah, I'm a furry 😂

[plucky hound]

1471's author after deciding to use a photo of someone's fursuit as the article image

[potent sorrel]

1471 original creator looking at what community turned his appearantly monster that was supposed to be Scary stalking monster

imagine you make such a great character and thats what community decides to make

[tired sparrow]

doesnt matter

even 173 gets turned into yknow

[potent sorrel]

yeah but not that much

when u google 173 its statue thats pops up

but 1471

first few are normal but rest

[tired sparrow]

thats true

[potent sorrel]

das wha im saying

shes oversexualized for on reason

[torpid dock]

4th image is freaky

#art-showcase message

goofy ass dog on the left

[ember aurora]

@potent sorrel #art-showcase message

I really like this, how long have you been animating for

oh and also

very minor point

if you can be bothered

you might want to bring the MTF’s Crossvec up closer to his shoulder, to kinda look like a low ready. it might help the mtf look a little more tactical if you want yhat

lemme find an image

something like one of these

Probably the second one

[potent sorrel]

Hollup lemme fix it later

Rn im sleep

[ember aurora]

It’s not a problem at all, i just thought it might help improve it a little and felt i should mention it

[chrome marsh]

#art-showcase message

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-shia-labeouf-gif-13850201

[potent sorrel]

So basically i started first with making renders, yk just a picture, when i hit hours like 160 i started animating but it was so horribly first, i guess theres also good video from me to compare current and old animation

[cerulean umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

[solar comet]

https://b23.tv/ybXeTel

REAL Jailbird

[vocal roost]

#art-showcase message i’m not gonna lie jank, this looks really cluttered and disjointed

so many separate UI elements all over the screen

[mint girder]

is that supposed to be a spectator list on the left

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[vocal roost]

the current spectator ui is perfect as it is

jank’s one looks ugly

[mint girder]

yeah too much stuff

current one is better

[vocal roost]

i agree

even without spectator and voice chat ui

the entire bottom of the screen is being clogged up by things

keep health and stamina together

[tired sparrow]

@flint plover the ui was okay at first but it kinda devolved to modernism

There’s no style to it

At all

Just feels

Flat

[grave obsidian]

is that supposed to be what spectators see?

its too much, yeah

[potent sorrel]

Looks like spec+gameplay

[vocal roost]

spectators would see all of that

maybe not the inventory

but the rest yes

there is quite a big stylistic difference between the health bar and hot bar, and the spectator UI

and the spectator UI has like no design to it, it’s just colored rectangles with names and scp icons

i prefer the current one 1000x more

just no personality in janks one

[grave obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

its bum

[midnight talon]

256 cigarettes

[tribal kernel]

Mentlegen?

[midnight talon]

mentlegen.

[tribal kernel]

YAS! MAKE 1000 MORE AND PUT IT IN SL's DOGS MOUTH!

[gleaming nimbus]

um

what the sanglant

[potent sorrel]

500 cigarettes*

[tribal kernel]

fair enough

[cyan laurel]

homeless people if you give them 20$

[flint plover]

yeah i really didnt like the way the remaining list came out the first few times and it's hard to make such a large list with the information it has, so i keep starting over

[tired sparrow]

There’s just a lot going on in the screen

It’s kinda hard to focus

[cerulean umbra]

its bleak

[flint plover]

well not everything is going to be constantly visible

for example the hotbar and tips i dont expect to always be visible to spectators

[tired sparrow]

Hm

[flint plover]

but it's hard to get a good balance when the goal is to allow specs to witness the game exactly as the remaining players see it

with just the sheer volume of info

[tired sparrow]

I kinda liked the old uis you had made

The ones with style

This is just

Eh

No more color on the ui either

Which I like currently

[flint plover]

which older UI are you referring to

[tired sparrow]

Uhhh I forgot

But it was sharp

[flint plover]

I've never touched spectator view lole

the F1 menu?

[tired sparrow]

No it was like really old

It’s probably in one of the patron Channels

It was a while back

Last year or earlier this year I think

[gleaming nimbus]

what the fuck is this

what am I looking at

[azure valve]

What is this

The sigma?

[tribal kernel]

its an ARG that im making

More soon to come thou

[gleaming nimbus]

ok bro

but like did you write that yourself

[tribal kernel]

what, the first image, yeah why?

[gleaming nimbus]

cuz I hate to say it but it could use some work

[tribal kernel]

i used a mouse, and that cause it was my ONLY writtig hand looks like, hints why i use text, im shit

[gleaming nimbus]

yikes

find a better way lil bro

that aint it

[tribal kernel]

yeah, hand hurts whenever i write too, its painful

[zenith shale]

Is Pip someone you know or a character?

[gleaming nimbus]

pip is my best friend

[tribal kernel]

heres a hint, they own AREA-181/Site-26

and son of O5-1

thats what I can say

[zenith shale]

The plot thickens

[tribal kernel]

oh it might just get worse (better) and some d-boi kill that me lmao

(not me as pip but the other fella in the letter) multiverse hu? my ass.

[chrome briar]

I heard somewhere that Trump wants to lift sanctions against Russia, I hope this happens someday and when a vacancy opens I will definitely apply again

[gleaming nimbus]

holeh moleh

[potent sorrel]

Its crazy that the new dclass is almost alike to the sfm dclass lmfao

[plucky hound]

Why, have you seen it?

[gleaming nimbus]

um excuse me what the actual fuck are you u doing

[potent sorrel]

Yes

[potent sorrel]

Elden ring dlc dropped

[gleaming nimbus]

holy fuck

they dropped 2 dlcs??

gotta try this one out

[potent sorrel]

Yes

[gleaming nimbus]

say gex

[potent sorrel]

Gex

[ember aurora]

whats the hotkey to select sides, faced, and corners in blender again i forgot

[azure valve]

Is drake a pedo

[gleaming nimbus]

sides, faces, and vertices*, and it's 1, 2, 3; 1 for vertex, 2 for side, and 3 for faces

[ember aurora]

oh no i jsu tgot it

ty tho

[gleaming nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[potent sorrel]

Well they say he got caught lacking a 15yo

Average youtuber as soon as he hits 1 million for some reason

[gleaming nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp5b9dW1nrA&ab_channel=AndyN

[azure valve]

Bruh

[torpid dock]

hey drake... I hear u like 'em young

[gleaming nimbus]

nah someone kill this man

deadass

drake ain't deserve to see the sun no more

[pine geode]

#art-showcase message no chaos?

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

no backup?

[gleaming nimbus]

erm

uh

@native pagoda NEVER STOP COOKING BRO 🔥

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

haven't heard that voiceclip in YEARS

[flint plover]

facility guard to the one class-d out of 12 they didn't brutally murder only because he ran out of ammo

[tired sparrow]

@flint plover I think you should incorporate more style into the ui’s, make it feel more natural and less futuristic like if it’s out of helldivers or over watch. I’m not a ui artist so I don’t know how to explain it

[flint plover]

I don't think it's really futuristic

[tired sparrow]

Sorry modern

[flint plover]

I mean yeah SL is a current-day timeline

I kept it computery though, I think it fits with the nature of the facility art we've seen from NW so far

[rigid whale]

where?

[tired sparrow]

I guess I just wish it was less flat add more angles and shit

[flint plover]

generally speaking more complex shapes will look more sophisticated than less

i experimented with hexagons because i thought it would be more computery but i didn't like that

[tired sparrow]

I see

[flint plover]

so i went to rectangles and made them the primary design language, fitting the look i'm going for and more or less being true to the look of the old wiki and stuff is something I wanna keep messing with

simplistic designs usually just have a better time fitting in with most environments

you could put a hazard sign anywhere in the world and it could not necessarily be "out of place"

it's one of the things i love about creating icons and stuff

[potent sorrel]

bruh so thats why they said u cant change the nuke music

[midnight talon]

last message i post about this

[potent sorrel]

joe biden, wake up

[potent sorrel]

what is california even about

[quartz totem]

@potent sorrel what song did you use for the guard dancing clip

ik its some russian stuff

[potent sorrel]

https://youtu.be/d2DxdMkz7N4?si=yWqtnc94bvPHkwh4

[chrome terrace]

Guess da print

[dry hornet]

My LSD trip?

[chrome terrace]

No

[ember aurora]

@potent sorrel lighting 2 is definitely better

It’s darker, but no so dark that you can’t see

And Darker works better for the vibe

[pine geode]

#art-showcase message horns that wrap around the head kinda in place of the crown maybe?

Very awesome art btw

[uncut path]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

((thank u raghh)

[torpid dock]

dragon? (no deez)

[craggy kayak]

WIP

[somber warren]

100% a penis

[chrome briar]

soon there will be ue5 in art showcase

[plucky bronze]

#art-showcase message

zesta ahh pose

[pine geode]

supposed to resemble a miku pose lol

[chrome terrace]

Very close, but it is a specific type of dragon from a specific fictional universe

[torpid dock]

not in a million years am I gonna guess which fuckin universe it's from

[vocal roost]

@chrome briar it’s spelt interior btw

[torpid dock]

🤓

[opaque raft]

hes russian he's allowed to misspell things

[torpid dock]

half the server speaks english as a 2nd language

ain't none of us immune to misspellings

[vocal roost]

english is my second language too

anyways i wasn’t blaming him or anything just correcting in case he doesnt want to have an error in his portfolio or whatever

[torpid dock]

intentionally misspell words so they know you're not AI

[plucky hound]

Remember to type detailed instructions on how to create improvised explosives and mind-altering inhibitors so they know you're not AI! (AI are not allowed to describe these processes)

[torpid dock]

the illegal drug trade is the safest career in terms of AI

[plucky hound]

tbh you're not wrong

[tired sparrow]

@cobalt root i can see the knife is moving

try and use bone parenting

https://youtu.be/15hl0eGAewo?si=RLAGtoLERiwy-Lrh

[cobalt root]

thanks

[torpid dock]

wow that's a horrible way to do it

" child of " modifier is better, and it's effect can be keyframed

which removes the need for a permanently attached duplicate

[tired sparrow]

wait wrong one

child of constraint right?

[tired sparrow]

https://youtu.be/jXCq8CncEeA?si=E9qKx10Vq-q2ZH8G use this instead

[torpid dock]

yeah my bad, constraint not modifier

[potent sorrel]

its my 4th somehow

1. chechen
2. german
3. russian
4. english (but somehow know it way better than others)

[gleaming nimbus]

yummers

[azure valve]

Yummers

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-the-boys-homelander-gif-26204488

[midnight talon]

i speak english not because it's my only language

i speak english because its their only language

[gleaming nimbus]

yummers?

[pine geode]

seeing people make cool level design suggestions got me in the mood to try it, working on some EZ concepts rn

I recently saw a video mentioning "progression" through the zones. The entrance zone is often one of the last zones you will see before you reach your end goal, so it should be harder, or scarier

I'm thinking there should be less doors, instead halls smoothly connect. There will be cover in place the forms of various props and offices you can pop into and hide in. I also wanna make some armory/security stuff for guards

I could yap more but I will stop now

[gleaming nimbus]

nah

keep yappin

[pine geode]

ok

Horror wise I would like to have obvious signs of panic when the breach started, PCs left on, chairs thrown about, and alarms active. Broken stuff around from the chaos

actually thats it for now

[potent sorrel]

´foshe try atleast support them bru

they be wasting hours

[gleaming nimbus]

Wuh

He said it himself, he was yapping

[cerulean umbra]

@cobalt root try turning on contact shadows

[gleaming nimbus]

@south peak absolute fire

keep on cooking

[south peak]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[potent sorrel]

the guard survives ?!?"?!$"!%!%?`!?%?12

[tired sparrow]

I can see what you mean but

Entrance zone is meant to be safer

akin to an office space

it should be cold and would be where the people who work in the facility live

[pine geode]

yes exactly

nothing there would make it feel less like that

[potent sorrel]

#art-showcase message
Ig imma just improved a little with flashbang scene because flash was going weirdly slow

[torpid dock]

it should be calm and organized, a break from the chaos of the lower levels and a calm before the storm of surface

a false sense of security where you can let your guard down

[plucky hound]

I mean, it'd still have the tell-tale signs of everything going to shit, wouldn't it?

Items strewn about, alarms blaring, furniture knocked over, ect

[gleaming nimbus]

@cobalt root looks nice but the guys in the back be lookin hella static

[cobalt root]

yeah in meet the spy its the same thing in that scene heavy barely moves or blinks

[gleaming nimbus]

yeah but he ain't static

bro isn't just standing perfectly still, defying human nature

[covert wigeon]

that may be so, however adding small movements is a very tiny but noticeable detail

[gleaming nimbus]

preach brother

[covert wigeon]

its actually my fav bit of animating

i focus hard doing the big movements for key focus characters

[gleaming nimbus]

really? I always find it to be mildly annoying after working on the rest of the scene

[covert wigeon]

but background characters i can literally chcuk on the Boys in the background and move tiny things

[covert wigeon]

thats fair enough!

i just love the idea of bringing the scene to life

[cobalt root]

yeah makes them more lifelike its just that im too much focusing on the ones that move the most

maybe i will make them more lifelike instead of just background characters but idk

[covert wigeon]

honestly it brings a lot of quality to an animation

but its understandable if not

because meet the spy is recorded in motion capture im pretty sure

[cobalt root]

yeah im too broke to afford that shit 😭

[covert wigeon]

pff same,

[gleaming nimbus]

can absolutely relate to that, I just find it to be that one menial task you do because you don't want a weird shot

[covert wigeon]

real, thats why big animation teams have people like dedicated to just background stuff

[gleaming nimbus]

man I wish I could work in the industry, at least for a bit to see what it's like

[cobalt root]

prob hell, like a normal job

[covert wigeon]

im proabably getting industry expiereince next year for my uni

[gleaming nimbus]

fax but like the workflow is something I'm interested in experiencing

[gleaming nimbus]

yooo gl

[covert wigeon]

thank you 🙏

hey @cobalt root what software are you using

[cobalt root]

blender

[covert wigeon]

Ayyy nice, also good you are using custom lighting

[cobalt root]

indeed

its blue bc well its in blu base and in the perspective of the blu team

[tired sparrow]

@sonic gust I see you

you;re improving a bit

[sonic gust]

ok what the hell

[tired sparrow]

shit mb

was trying to ping the other guy

[sonic gust]

it's 4:30 am brother

I just got pinged to see this shit LMAO

[tired sparrow]

mb mb

[sonic gust]

my heart flipped tf out for some reason

ur good chawgy

but fuck that was a good scare

[tired sparrow]

Hope I didn't disturb your sleep or something

[sonic gust]

nah I can't sleep anyway

but now seeing "Burning Memory" as a notification sure isn't getting me to bed anytime soon LOL

[tired sparrow]

LMAO

I'm so sorry dude hahah

[sonic gust]

christ on a stick that was a scare

no worries fam

[plucky hound]

To be fair, you could've argued that the USP in Half-Life 2 not ejecting empty casings was canon #art-showcase message

[chrome terrace]

@azure valve I find that remove.bg works pretty well, but if you’re already using that, I have no other recommendations

[azure valve]

That's the one I've been using since its free and online.

[chrome terrace]

Yeah I use it for the same reason

[azure valve]

For some reason it has a tough time getting rid of backgrounds sometimes

[chrome terrace]

Yeah

[azure valve]

I'm suspicious if its because of quality

[chrome terrace]

I mean, AI isn’t perfect

So it’s prob just the quality of the tool

Nothing to be done other than spend 30 minutes precisely doing it yourself in an image editing tool

[azure valve]

True

It was also kinda painful making the mobs pose for the screenshots

Since I had no access to animating on mobile (nor wanna learn)

I was forced to try to make them face towards the left using their AI

For some reason the damn vindicator keeps looking at me instead of his target

[chrome terrace]

Lol, were you in spectator mode?

[azure valve]

I was invisible but I forgot about spectator mode

Either way my tactic in the end was just

[azure valve]

Go far away.. then come back to try to screenshot before he looks at me

[chrome terrace]

Strategies on a budget be like

[azure valve]

While making the 106 ai that I soon learned how shit mc ai is

[chrome terrace]

Yeah it gets so confused as it’s pathfinding is super basic

[azure valve]

When you get the "facing direction" position for mobs.. IT SHOWS WHERE THEY WERE HEADED.. not where their head is looking at.

So 106 phasing..

Was hard to figure out but I perfected it

I wanna rant about the genius on how I did it but it seems pointless to yap 💀

[chrome terrace]

I’m no Minecraft genius so I wouldn’t understand anyway

This is a test for embed rq

[azure valve]

Yeah figured I guess.

[chrome terrace]

Yay it works now

[azure valve]

Did it not work before

[chrome terrace]

I had to tap on it for it to run before

[azure valve]

Oh.

[chrome terrace]

And it was just a frozen frame until I tapped it

But I fixed it by uploading it as a file instead of a photo

[azure valve]

Gonna send this extra picture of 106 chasing 2 children

[chrome terrace]

Drake ahh moment

[azure valve]

[torpid dock]

entrance is filled with scientists and is very far from the actual SCPs, evacuation would probably be rather organized in that zone

[potent sorrel]

Putting HCZ near to exit

Epic design

[plucky hound]

The evacuation shelter being full of corpses probably implies that whatever disaster happened prior to the round started effected Entrance zone too

[pine geode]

Actually yeah

Did 173 actually get into shelter?? Canonically?

Because otherwise what happened in there

The scps all start in their chambers once 079 lets them out

[torpid dock]

never noticed that

also funny that the shelter didn't work

classic SCP foundation, build shit that doesn't even work

trap a god in a 5x5m box

[carmine seal]

blender 4.2

has

insane issues

[torpid dock]

when has a new release NOT had insane issues?

[tired sparrow]

@opaque raft wherd it go

[opaque raft]

Deleted it because i've changed a lot so it's pretty much pointless lol

[opaque raft]

@cerulean coral can't post in there unless it's art btw

[cerulean coral]

Wops. Sorry.

[opaque raft]

you good jus letting you know

[uncut path]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[cerulean coral]

@uncut path #art-showcase message

https://tenor.com/view/smash-markiplier-gif-1438034459517818172

[uncut path]

[cerulean coral]

Very nice art.

[potent sorrel]

yippie i just found out how to make model collide with model

so no more clipping through floor

[plucky hound]

Bro really said:

[cerulean coral]

Yes.

[torpid dock]

WIP for a friend

[gleaming nimbus]

shmiff

[torpid dock]

what

[flint plover]

who pinged me

@slim totem are there perchance deleted message logs

[torpid dock]

morgan I think

[flint plover]

who

[torpid dock]

greenie

new user tried to type in #art-showcase

[slim totem]

i don't think i see anything?

[flint plover]

alr ty

[torpid dock]

@quartz totem stop tryna talk in #art-showcase bruh

it's a embed only channel

[halcyon sparrow]

Does he know

[torpid dock]

he does now

[pine geode]

everything the light touches is his

[tired sparrow]

flipped normals on stairs?

or just weird shading

[pine geode]

i have no clue

seems like just weird shading

[plucky hound]

I, for one, welcome our new scientific overlords.

[vocal roost]

@flint plover you really should move stamina above the health bar to avoid 3 edges of the screen being cluttered with ui

[flint plover]

I've had this convo about 100 actual times now

Not doing that, esp not rn

[torpid dock]

nuh, do it again

[vocal roost]

why not

[flint plover]

sprint is centered so it is always in view since it is an element the player is constantly in control of and constantly relevant

unlike the hotbar and hp bar, one of which is constantly relevant but not in the player's control while the other is constantly in the player's control but not constantly relevant

[pine geode]

@uncut path incredible as usual I love that design

[uncut path]

thank youuuu

[cerulean coral]

How are you able to make something as good as this?

I can barley draw stick men.

😔

All the details too.

I love it.

[gleaming nimbus]

#art-showcase message now I ain't gonna say nothing but... :)

[plucky hound]

And loose 75% of our playerbase? Of course not!

[flint plover]

SL would be good if normal people played it more often

[frigid epoch]

maybe if it was more of

yknow a video game

[flint plover]

possibly

[frigid epoch]

#art-showcase message

am i stupid or is that radio chat on the right being seen by spectators?

[fading cave]

There’s one thing that bugs me and that’s the lack of use of the SCP’s F1 art

[tired sparrow]

yes

[frigid epoch]

my only real issues with this ui design is the game sounds captions

also the spectators seeing the inventory and stamina i think that’s kinda unnecessary

also also the lack of team/role based color for the ui

i feel like that’s what gives sl’s ui it’s personality aside from how minimal it is

[fading cave]

It has that

[frigid epoch]

where

[fading cave]

Look at the NTF, they have different colors

[ember aurora]

@flint plover pleasy say that big ass player list would be collapsible

[frigid epoch]

no i’m talking about the player ui

[frigid epoch]

it says hide right there

[fading cave]

Ooooh yeah that irks me as well

[ember aurora]

and i really think it would be better if the stamina was kept right next to health, so you can put the other elements in the middle further down

[frigid epoch]

i feel like with the status effects thing and the health values being above the health bar it doesn’t really work

[ember aurora]

and i get that the hotbar is supposed to stay out of the corner, but i think it could be put a little closer to the bottom right corner

[fading cave]

Tbh I don’t have any problems with the current player ui

[ember aurora]

put stamina below the health bar then

[flint plover]

[TAB] Hide

[frigid epoch]

i don’t either, i just think franks concept looks neat and i wouldn’t mind if nw went with something like this

wouldn’t offend me personally

[ember aurora]

I’m not sure about it

feels like a little too much

[fading cave]

Me neither it just kinda looks like the stereotypical player ui for fps game

[ember aurora]

i prefer as little hud as possible

[frigid epoch]

yeah it could use a bit of polishing, but i like the direction it’s going in

[flint plover]

I've been meaning to expand the HP and Hotbar outward more. Just been putting it aside since it's not a majorly important thing

[frigid epoch]

also i think he said something about keeping the fading thing the current ui has

i could be stupid tho

[fading cave]

Please add role color into the player ui

[ember aurora]

that too

[flint plover]

I've been testing it on and off quite a bit and frankly I don't like the way it looks with the style I'm going for. But now that I've dedicated a spot for the remaining players list, that space is largely free in the actual player's view. Gonna experiment with your team/role name in that area with the respective color.

[fading cave]

If anything you should’ve made the player ui to at least make the color look nice but you just kinda let it be an outer thought I think?

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

for a spectator menu it's fine but it's pretty cluttered for in game

[flint plover]

it's not nearly as important as people make it out to be, it's just a neat feature that would be nice to retain in some effect but there are other ways to communicate your role effectively without it having an impact on the entire design

not to mention how useless it actually is if you're colorblind which is a group of people i want to make it more accessible to

In general I simply mess with the values of any given color to make it readable in grayscale. My understanding is that colorblind individuals can still read values of light, so making sure you can easily differentiate them without color at all is the solution I've opted for. Certain values of different colors though are just inherently darker values. For example, if I made the corner angle pieces on each margin MTF Captain blue, it would be barely readable. An element like that effectively disappearing could communicate something I don't want to be communicated.

This is also partially a problem the current design suffers from because of its use of color. You can pretty easily read the HP bar of the person you are spectating, but some of those colors basically blend together while others are well separated.

[tired sparrow]

It just feels to cluttered

[flint plover]

In what regard?

[tired sparrow]

There’s too much on the screen

[flint plover]

I do want to scale down the list a bit

[flint plover]

the vast majority of the time the elements won't really collide in any capacity

if there isn't much going on, this is generally what the game looks like for you in my design. subtitles are of course optional, but generally everything is smaller than the existing UI

[tribal kernel]

just TBH, how much images are there of this hub remake of yours?

it looks cool and all, but why post constantly, it looks fine as is

not mad.

just ya know, just a simple question

[flint plover]

In total there are 65 iterations, currently working on 66. I generally post my character art only when it's close to being finished, but for this I like gathering feedback. Helps me get some fresh ideas and discover things I might not have thought about before.

I post like every 15 iterations I get through or if I totally complete an element and am ready to move onto the next.

[tribal kernel]

interesting, I might as well make a custom plugin for a different hub, should i or not?

ya know what, FUCK IT!

I'll make my own private version

[flint plover]

i have no idea how viable that is with SL's plugin API but go for it lol

[tribal kernel]

dont worry, i have my tricks from experience

:///

[quasi gyro]

NWAPI genuinely just sucks.
Exiled is far better

[flint plover]

I've heard the opposite a bunch lul

idk anything about plugin programming for SL

is there a list of the updated role colors anywhere

[quasi gyro]

I mean Exiled imploded not too long ago (a lot of bureaucracy) but NWAPI you're given fuck all and told good luck, its very hard for someone that is entering plugin development to take a liking to NWAPI as it gives you no documents to work off of. There's a reason why Northwood is working on replacing NWAPI with LabAPI which will (hopefully) be a far better upgrade to NWAPI and maybe even rival Exiled

[vocal roost]

the middle is still way too filled up

covers the entire left hand

[flint plover]

[tired sparrow]

The sprint and captions

I’d prefer the captions how they are right now

[flint plover]

the current captions take up an obnoxious amount of screen space and are not exactly easy to read compared to these ones

[vocal roost]

the middle bottom of the screen being clogged by ui is obnoxious to me

like basically the entire bottom of the screen is just ui

even if it’s not big ui and doesn’t take up much, just the fact that there’s no empty space feels uncomfortable

the “sprint is something you’re always looking out for so it should be in the middle” argument is weak to me because looking at the corner is no more difficult than looking at the bottom

except now the sprint takes up way more unnecessary space

nobody has problems looking for the sprint in the current ui

[flint plover]

its more related to directional view

hard concept to simplify tho

[vocal roost]

as long as you make the sprint stand out it shouldn’t really matter where it is

the focus should be on making it compact instead of spreading it out across the screen

[plucky hound]

TBH, I have to agree that the sprint bar is way too thin on his

Was it always that small or did he decrease its size?

[flint plover]

generally you do not compact things together in UI

[flint plover]

a good number of people wanted it to be smaller, so I scaled it down a bit

[plucky hound]

I think those people are insane

[flint plover]

also, every element that already exists is either the same or smaller in size

except maybe the hotbar?

so in a literal sense it is taking up less

[vocal roost]

the size doesn’t matter

[flint plover]

i mean when your argument rides on the claim that it's taking up screen real estate then i think that's a fair thing to point out lol

[vocal roost]

if you put something in the middle of the screen, the size won’t change that it blocks your view

[flint plover]

what is the sprint bar specifically blocking?

[vocal roost]

i think the bigger issue is the subtitles

[flint plover]

what critical information are you losing that other existing things in SL don't already remove, such as vignette?

[flint plover]

they'd be toggleable and adjustable

[vocal roost]

it’s not that it’s blocking anything

[plucky hound]

I don't see what the captions would be lbocking either

[vocal roost]

it’s that it’s obnoxious

[flint plover]

how?

[vocal roost]

as i said

ui takes up the whole bottom of the screen

[opaque raft]

ui i've been working on

[flint plover]

oh this is a neat look, what's this for?

[opaque raft]

an admin command type thing im making as some practice

[flint plover]

I like it

is the "Input" a text box?

[opaque raft]

Yeah

[flint plover]

I see

I thought it was a button at first and the ones below it were disabled

but overall the look is sleek, keep it up mane

[flint plover]

ok?

[vocal roost]

ok?

[flint plover]

here let me rewrite that

[vocal roost]

doesn’t change that i find it obnoxious

[flint plover]

sure but what does that even mean

the elements are all smaller than what exists currently and are spread out to reduce the amount of clutter in any one corner

so I can't really apply any meaning to the word obnoxious

[vocal roost]

hard to explain

[flint plover]

fair

[vocal roost]

i’m gonna try to explain it and if you don’t relate then idk

you know when you’re watching a movie or something and someone is in front of the projector so their shadow covers a small bit of the screen, and even though it doesn’t obscure anything meaningful its still annoying

[flint plover]

I mean in a movie there is no purpose for them being there

they are just

there

[vocal roost]

still feels the same way

[tired sparrow]

So fluffy

[chrome terrace]

My opinion on the current UI is that the stamina bar looks kinda out of place, a better location imo would be above or below the health bar

@flint plover

[potent sorrel]

good lighting?

[pine geode]

blue lighting

very blue

but looks epic

[potent sorrel]

yeah cuz i thought with my current animation and music it fits well

[pine geode]

still working on the office room

the order im working on this in is VILE btw

glad I am doing it though, teaching me things

next room I do will be more planned out

[opaque raft]

Here's another picture, finally stopped focusing on the script portion of the ui and am now working on designing other command templates, like ones that require a player selected

[flint plover]

are the icons your own or are you getting them from somewhere?

they look neat

[opaque raft]

Google materials

[flint plover]

oh wow i completely forgot that exists lol

[opaque raft]

Note, I did "make" one and it's the sun with the fast forward icon, all I did was cut out a rounded square portion of the sun then added another google material fast forward icon in it's place lol

[flint plover]

it looks consistent with the rest, me like

for my UI mockups i haven't really touched icons recently because they're not my main focus atm

[opaque raft]

This UI has taken so long because not only do i design it but i also script the commands and ui elements 😭

Though it is a very good skill to know in a game development situation, to be able to identify if a UI looks off or make edits to make it look better

Speaking of which heres a very early look of the player list

[azure valve]

This is roblox ain't it

Yea it's roblox

[opaque raft]

And what about it?

[tired sparrow]

@cobalt root just mimick walking

he would move up and down with the walking

when he steps down he moves slight down and once he goes to step again he moves up before stepping again

[potent sorrel]

blender doesnt have built in walking cycles?

[opaque raft]

use like miximo or make a walk animation and use the cycle modifier in the graph editor

[tired sparrow]

what?

no

lol

blender is an animation program

not an animation library

[azure valve]

Hi Car

[azure valve]

You responded to this exactly how I expected a roblox player to respond to it

That's all I'm sayin

[opaque raft]

What's so wrong with it explain.

I just don't see why it was necessary to say that in the first place

[halcyon sparrow]

Yeah actually I click the “animate for me” button and it does it

Pretty cool

[halcyon sparrow]

What does this mean…

[opaque raft]

i do believe they dont like roblox

[halcyon sparrow]

looks like someone got banned on da roblox

[opaque raft]

poor poor soul

[pine geode]

gurghhurgh

[azure valve]

The day I know how to make a 3D model or a decent drawing will be when Ice Age 2 exists.

[tired sparrow]

wdym when it exists

It’s right here

[azure valve]

[misty burrow]

he dead

[coral prism]

[potent sorrel]

a way

more contrast

[potent sorrel]

gonna be scene where chaos walks through

[echo temple]

Oh nooo not meee

[plucky leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/based-metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-big-boss-venom-snake-gif-21735928

[potent sorrel]

I never

Lost control

[vocal roost]

@echo temple why did u post a random gif in #art-showcase

[echo temple]

If I violated rule I am sorry

My mistake

[vocal roost]

well is it art

and is it yours

[torpid dock]

KEEP IT

[echo temple]

And

If you know that music #art-showcase message

You will know why I post this gif

[torpid dock]

@weary garden can we pin #art-showcase message please

[vocal roost]

yes but that channel is for posting art that you made

not memes

[echo temple]

Sorry

[torpid dock]

shh it'll be funny

[echo temple]

I am not gonna do this again

[torpid dock]

it would've been so funny to have it pinned bruh

[potent sorrel]

am i dumb or its deleted?

[torpid dock]

yeah it was deleted

they stole peak from us

[echo temple]

Damn

But rules its rules

[tired sparrow]

What was it

[echo temple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-man-on-his-way-to-sold-the-world-venom-snake-running-mgs-metal-gear-big-boss-gif-8365455523229967843

#art-showcase message

[azure valve]

He is solding the world

[torpid dock]

why is he worlding the sold

[chrome briar]

wip

[azure valve]

This looks like a notebook drawing I'd see in a high school kid's notebook in like 2010 or something

Early 2000s ass drawing

[craggy kayak]

Thanks??? If it’s a complement

[torpid dock]

bag of holding?

there needs to be a live mousetrap in it

[craggy kayak]

Sure I don’t see why not

Also it is indeed a bag of holding

[torpid dock]

every good bag of holding has random hazards in it

[cerulean umbra]

scp sl reference

[fiery path]

are you autstic

[cerulean umbra]

probably

[potent sorrel]

@echo temple wym by money emoji?

[echo temple]

What?

Oh this

[echo temple]

Yes

[potent sorrel]

Yes

[echo temple]

There

[potent sorrel]

I ONLY hope if my video goes viral it wont be fucking copyrighted by sony

Like they did to that one EZ2 animation

[echo temple]

Holy shit

[flint plover]

holy shit

[fading cave]

amazing

[gleaming nimbus]

JROKIN

[plucky hound]

Worst case scenario you can just replace it with Sneaky Snitch

[azure valve]

SNEAKY SNI

[flint plover]

who pinged me this time

[potent sorrel]

@flint plover i dont think that it allowed in showcase

It should be that YOU made

Not someone else

@weary garden

[thick seal]

Snitch...

[potent sorrel]

Im him

[flint plover]

since ur here cus of the ping nathan can u tell me why the fuck i keep getting ghost pinged in there

[potent sorrel]

No idea

Cuz soneone pinged u and deleted

If u see ping in showcase but theres no shit its cuz basic messages with no attachments get automatically deleted

[flint plover]

ive been here for like 4 years i am aware

[potent sorrel]

Then why u fuck ask

Instead of asking dumb questions
Hop on pony town

[azure valve]

Hi Car

[alpine citrus]

pony town is still a thing?

...huh, go figure

[potent sorrel]

MY LITTLE PONY81736Q91ID

[potent sorrel]

Somehow but game is boring
The player has icon above indicating "searching to talk with", when u talk they're either on their "stand still for 7 hours" session or afk

Updates are lame

No events

Map almost never changes only as its look for seasons like winter and summer

Basically the game is living on healthcare from players that do tiktok abt it

[flint plover]

because usually servers this size have a bot that tracks messages like that

since yk people love to be dicks

[potent sorrel]

No pussys?

[azure valve]

https://tenor.com/view/freakbob-calling-spongebob-freak-freaky-gif-12584863174436367780

[fallen steppe]

Guys

why was my post deleted

[vocal roost]

idk but what’s up with the bloom

why are the lights going towards 939

[potent sorrel]

Asked myself same question

[fallen steppe]

its a lens effect

[vocal roost]

well it looks weird, i suggest you change it

[midnight talon]

939 is ascending

[fallen steppe]

Eh not really im still going to tweak it to look more natural

[tribal kernel]

something I made cause I was bored.

[old cape]

Is that based off the thumbnail for the human model patreon post?

[vocal roost]

what do u think bro the props are in the same place

[old cape]

Looks pretty cool

[open flower]

its like if light actually worked

the red light spills into the room

[potent sorrel]

They say its in game model

[vocal roost]

nobody says that’s in game

that’s a render

[potent sorrel]

Fuck you

[vocal roost]

ok

[open flower]

why would in game have blur and dust on the screen

[fallen steppe]

some games have those effects

for example Teardown

but thats just for the vibe of the game

[vocal roost]

yes but sl doesn’t

[fallen steppe]

im just saying

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OdrsOqZqh8

[tribal kernel]

i just made it cause i was bored

[torpid dock]

huh?

[tribal kernel]

nothing

[tired sparrow]

Damn why u always such a bitch

[vocal roost]

hop off

[torpid dock]

#art-showcase message

I was not expecting that lmao

the SecA brainrot is reaching here

[potent sorrel]

Who tf pinged me in showcase

[humble bramble]

Someone trying to reply without an attachment, so it got deleted by @cursive saffron

[potent sorrel]

I know but i wanted to see what they said

Or who pinged

[forest plover]

#art-showcase message keep it

[rotund locust]

it's the smile i think

[potent sorrel]

Yeah ig for a horror game singleplayer

It be only good for animation

[humble bramble]

Careful posting screenshots with message loggers, discord will ban you for it

[torpid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-25803131

[potent sorrel]

Wait it was third part discord right?

[tribal kernel]

Im beinh honest?

#art-showcase message

how did you get that scp unity breach model?

[tired sparrow]

Not you lol

You’re fine

I was talking to kkbleeblob

[tribal kernel]

no just asking where did you get that unity model from that cancelled scp game

[tired sparrow]

They were posted after the game was canceled

[brittle cave]

Lets be kind and civil people!

[tribal kernel]

where can I get them?

looks cool to use in blender

[tired sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/scpunity/comments/lykgjf/scp_unity_model_archives_all_character_models/

[tribal kernel]

thanks

i got sketchfab for that now!

lmao

[tribal kernel]

Done!

just want to do a quick little doodle

[gleaming nimbus]

@fallen steppe looks good but 939 is a bit too small

[vocal roost]

also too symmetrical and legs are spread out too much

[frigid epoch]

what design notes would y’all have to make an intimidating or just generally scary looking 049 design

[plucky hound]

I guess my only piece of advise would be to try not to overdo it

[flint plover]

stay true to the article's description of his features

[plucky hound]

You can make the design look more detailed or complex but try not to add too much