scp-discussion

[weary crane]

fact checking 🤖 🤖
IMPOSSIBLE

[gilded token]

This game makes my brain completely shut down sometimes

[umbral carbon]

this is a very basic example of what I mean

[mystic hamlet]

yeah but a person with 500 hours who practices juking enemies and recoil control is gonna be better than someone with 500 hours who just goes in and plays the game

[umbral carbon]

the latter is still more experienced than someone with 100 hours, no?

[gilded token]

juking makes this game so unfun

[umbral carbon]

that was my original point

[mystic hamlet]

i mean yeah

[umbral carbon]

you are correct

[mystic hamlet]

but playtime is not the only factor

[digital ice]

i mean there's really no point on tryharding all the time

even for tryhards

sometimes they just wanna chill

[umbral carbon]

casual gameplay is good

I do that a lot

[gilded token]

I only really focus my brain in if I'm a civ and I'm doing well or being an SCP

[hidden wave]

it means "oh that's where checkpoint is" and then you go run over there

[gilded token]

Playing militant roles my brain just shuts the fuck off

[mystic hamlet]

I find it a lot more fun. I'm interacting with players way more instead of just b-hopping around the map grabbing everything I can

[umbral carbon]

I've only actually started aim training a tiny bit as of last weekish

about 2100 hours were played with no exterior practice

and I still had a good time

[gilded token]

Honestly, late game and being a militant role makes me feel so brain dead

[sturdy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lowcortisollevel-tayguan-tayanhguan-gif-18425416686466898059

[umbral carbon]

late game is the most fun for me

[gilded token]

While shit I enjoy early game way more than I do being a militant

[umbral carbon]

specifically as MTF going into chaos spawns

[mystic hamlet]

fun fact: low cortisol is also pretty bad for you

[umbral carbon]

churger are you muted

@amber bone

I just checked your profile churger

[sturdy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/gurren-lagann-simon-kamina-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-ttgl-gif-27017174

okay

churger is stuck in the amazing digital circus guys!1!!!!1111!!

[umbral carbon]

I'm not a med major but I did anat/physiology for scioly in high school

cortosol affects isulin production and allat

pancreas and all that

[mystic hamlet]

low cortisol apparently causes abdominal pain

somehow

[umbral carbon]

again, not a doctor

[umbral carbon]

makes sense

if there's one thing I've learned from my year doing scioly it's that your body has a billion different things going on and it WILL tell you if something's fucked up

[mystic hamlet]

30 minutes of playing SL seriously vs 30 hours of playing SL casually

[umbral carbon]

I have never understood the disdain for people who play the game seriously

it'd be like harping on FNV players for roleplaying a bit or choosing a side instead of optimizing it

[hidden wave]

fnv is singleplayer

how you play doesn't affect other players

[mystic hamlet]

i don't mind whehn people do it but I just find it less interesting

[deft cargo]

1500 of casual

[umbral carbon]

playing seriously still is shut down by SCPs

they're the magic sauce

[gilded token]

I can enjoy taking the game seriously but it has to have some RP to it

[umbral carbon]

I found the most success by playing to """"win"""" (personal wins: kill other players, round end screen irrelevant) but until recently I didn't actually practice the game or such outside of that

in terms of having fun

if you say the gunplay is lacklustre I'm going to cry

[gilded token]

I agree with cheesechurger that the game is at it's best when there's people fucking around

[umbral carbon]

casual objective play

[gilded token]

I mean I DO agree with this

[umbral carbon]

uh

get a bit better I suppose?

but I guess if you don't enjoy guns it is what it is

I found it less fun when I was bad at it

[gilded token]

The gunplay isn't bad

[umbral carbon]

these guys make no sense

[gilded token]

The gunplay just isn't my favorite in this game

[umbral carbon]

"173 is trying to lose HP for more shield in the end-game"

isn't how shield works

[mystic hamlet]

ehhhhh

it still kinda feels like i'm shooting airsoft guns

[umbral carbon]

what builds are you using

[gilded token]

Oh my god that's exactly what this game feels like

[mystic hamlet]

it's better than before, yes, but there's still room for improvement imo

[umbral carbon]

^

[gilded token]

Once again, I will complain that the white hitmark isn't good enough feedback that makes me feel like I did something

[mystic hamlet]

i'm not talking about stats

[mystic hamlet]

like this is what I'm talking about

[umbral carbon]

if your guns are built poorly then they feel pretty poor

[sturdy dawn]

30 hours of clipfarming

[gilded token]

The shotgun will never not make me sad

[sturdy dawn]

i have replay buffer always on

[gilded token]

It's the WORST feeling shotgun I've ever used in a video game

[umbral carbon]

guns feel very snappy if you've got good builds

[mystic hamlet]

add some blood effects or something else besides a white hit marker

[umbral carbon]

I agree with this

Shotgun feels very clunky

[sturdy dawn]

yeah but u can draw cool pictures on the wall out of bullets

[umbral carbon]

weird double shots to pump

[gilded token]

I would rather just have a normal pump action

[sturdy dawn]

feels like im pointing a milk carton at someone and flicking it in their direction for every shot

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho100-mob-psycho-reigen-reigen-arataka-salt-punch-gif-26481052

shotgun be like

[gilded token]

Plus its reload is so painstakingly long

[umbral carbon]

it kills great

it just has clunky anims and sound design

[mystic hamlet]

deadass the blunderbuss in SoT plays better than SL's shotgun

[umbral carbon]

being able to two-tap heavy armor is nice

[sturdy dawn]

nerf blaster ahh

[umbral carbon]

it's just that you have awful sounds

and the shape

[mystic hamlet]

nerf miner

[umbral carbon]

hooo boy the shape

[gilded token]

I really wish they used a different shotgun because it's boring as fuck looking AND it's a bullpup shotgun

[sturdy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kel-and-laura-gun-gun-fight-getting-ready-ready-for-war-gif-12659876

chaos

[gilded token]

I love that the shotgun is just a big censor bar

[umbral carbon]

CI have like one meh weapon and the rest are pretty great

the shotgun is meh because it's not fun looking but the rest of the weapons are all great

the neat thing about SL is that the guns are statted in a way that means that even bad SL guns are pretty alright (barring vec)

vec has issues with JHP sometimes.

the AK is a good weapon IDK what you're smoking

[gilded token]

I just wish the AK and shotgun were visually appealing

The AK's design hurts me

[umbral carbon]

churger what BS are you putting in your AK builds

[paper lake]

Nothing is as satisfying as a headshot kill with an AK

[gilded token]

Idk man revolver headshot kills feel good

[umbral carbon]

well, E11

that being said I'm hitting shots I have no right to hit

idk if it's the ping, or?

[gilded token]

mostly because when the revolver shoots it feels powerful

[umbral carbon]

but ping works against shots

[paper lake]

Besides shotgun and revolver

[prisma crescent]

AK is fine enough but I wish you could make it look like a AK-47

[gilded token]

Shotgun doesn't feel good in any capacity

[paper lake]

Specifically the AK47?
The outdated version that hasn’t been used by anyone important in decades

[gilded token]

The shotgun and AK are boring in design

[prisma crescent]

The SL Shotgun might be the worse shotgun in any real game I have ever played.

[gilded token]

The CI, known for their logical uses in weapons

and known world wide for rational decisions

[prisma crescent]

Chaos know it has aura.

[paper lake]

So we should make them even more irrational and downgrade their weapons

[gilded token]

Yes

Nyet, rifle is fine

[prisma crescent]

Also there is a SCP that's a Choas owned AK-47 I'm pretty sure.

[foggy summit]

Apaaoaao

[umbral carbon]

-47s (AKM is iirc the actually most popular) are too new. Let's go PPSH and mosin

[paper lake]

Well yeah, SCP is a free medium. You can write whatever you like

[paper lake]

[umbral carbon]

actually that's too new

black powder

[prisma crescent]

They come out of the car with mustkets lol.

[paper lake]

Screw it

Back to spears

And swords

[umbral carbon]

phalanx

[paper lake]

Get some chain mail Armour

[gilded token]

A CI with a longsword would be so fucking epic though

[deft cargo]

nah rocks and sticks

[umbral carbon]

roman shields

[prisma crescent]

I'm just saying there is president for the Chaos using a AK-47

[gilded token]

The CI only use the AKs because the AKs are the bad guy weapons

[prisma crescent]

Next update the Chaos will just be a bunch of gorillas.

[paper lake]

No modern military uses 47s

[gilded token]

They would use AKs in real life because they are very reliable guns

[paper lake]

Gorilla warfare

[gilded token]

Allow me to use guerilla warfare as a CI

[paper lake]

When you don’t have the manufacturing power to make standardised easy to use weapons like AKs in house, why not

[paper lake]

Throw a suppressor on your gun and go Die Hard on the NTF wave

[gilded token]

Let me set up booby traps

[prime fossil]

half life tripwires and turrets

[paper lake]

Guerrilla warfare would be so much fun though

[prime fossil]

completely revamp the game and create half life multiplayer

[chrome summit]

Chaos using their big brains and made their own AK and then retrofitted their Logicers to use the same chamber

[prisma crescent]

"is the Insurgency’s shotgun of choice. By all accounts, the weapon is unnecessarily heavy, overly-complex, and should be of questionable practicality."

"No, I don’t have any clue why the Insurgency would be using revolvers in a modern combat scenario."

[prime fossil]

the chaos just go for cool factor

[chrome summit]

Aura

[paper lake]

Again, so we should make the Chaos make more irrational choices and downgrade their weapons?

[gilded token]

Besides their AK and shotgun

Yes obviously

[prime fossil]

shotgun has cool sound effects and the AK is wooden

[paper lake]

Make it an AK-12 or smth

[gilded token]

The AK isn't wooden

[prisma crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[prime fossil]

it is in my heart

[chrome summit]

I mean. Even though the Revolver isn't the greatest choice.

The OpGuide does state it is efficient

[gilded token]

and the shotgun is the worst feeling shotgun in a video game I've ever used

[chrome summit]

When someone runs they just casually pull it out and boom. Shot to the head.

[hollow cloak]

I've been loving current shotgun

[prime fossil]

let's give the shotgun the functionality of the half life shotgun

[hollow cloak]

hold on I have a great clip from earlier on PEARS

[umbral carbon]

kills alright to me yeah

being able to two-shot heavy armor is very strong

[prime fossil]

remove the ability to zoom with the shotgun and replace it with the 2x shot

[prisma crescent]

Also I didn't even say actually add the 47 just be able to make the AK look like is so it doesn't look so bland.

[gilded token]

I like to think it's just because the CI are efficient at using these inefficient weapons

[chrome summit]

The Revolver seems like it was chosen for quick kills for runaways and scare factor

[paper lake]

I love shouting Shotgun! after every shotgun kill

[mystic hamlet]

some still do, mostly small militias in the middle east

[prisma crescent]

Also probably since it's cheap.

[gilded token]

Yeah it seems the CI goes for more psychological warfare with their weapons

[prime fossil]

I love shouting nothing after every shotgun kill because I'm gordon freeman

[paper lake]

Modern equipped military groups

[gilded token]

just read the logicer OPG

[chrome summit]

Like sure. A rifle shooting down a runaway is effective

But someone just casually pulling out a Revolver and just one pull

[umbral carbon]

click?

[chrome summit]

Pull

Whatever

[mystic hamlet]

militias are military groups

[umbral carbon]

you goober

[chrome summit]

Im tired

[umbral carbon]

yeah fair

b/c of sub 2?

[chrome summit]

I spent 5 fucking hours reevaluating Subnautica Fauna AI

[umbral carbon]

militia implies it is informal in some way

oh no.

[prime fossil]

the secret of the lab

[paper lake]

Military groups with modern equipment

[chrome summit]

Did you know Crashfish can attack Stalkers

[paper lake]

That is helpful to know

[umbral carbon]

also terran if I send you the CSS to changelogs for stuff would you be able to just paste that in after the sub 2 stuff dies down?

[chrome summit]

Yeah. In the very common scenario of a Stalker entering their cave

[mystic hamlet]

okay well that's different from "modern military groups"

[prime fossil]

crashfish made me mad

[dense nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110597688472391692/1499899902367498270/attachment.gif

[chrome summit]

Technically, they can attack any shark

[umbral carbon]

baneling.

[chrome summit]

But good luck getting an ampeel over there

Anyways

[prisma crescent]

“The Insurgency’s choices of small arms baffle me. This is best exemplified in their choice of standard rifle. Using an AK-platform rifle isn’t a poor choice by any means. What I find odd, is the furniture attached to the rifles. From what I can tell, the handguard and rail mount are both entirely proprietary. They don’t match any mass-produced aftermarket accessory I know of, implying they were either custom-ordered or made by the Insurgency.
I have no clue how, or why, they have fashioned their rifles this way. Not to mention where they sourced the manufacturing strength needed to produce these accessories. Judging by all the other attachments I find on recovered rifles, it seems they had modularity in mind. Perhaps they were trying to compete with the Foundation’s own E-11 rifle? If that’s the case, I’d say it fell a bit short.”

[prime fossil]

how many crashfish does it take to take out a reaper

[chrome summit]

If would need to use wiki formatting but yes

[chrome summit]

Reapers aren't sharks

[umbral carbon]

yeah that's what I meant

[dense nova]

if i were the insurgency i'd probably crack a beer open and watch the foundation fumble at their attempts to contain a loose ball

[umbral carbon]

I'll have to go look into that but I think it's doable

[prime fossil]

they're sharks with arms

[chrome summit]

They're classified as leviathans by the game. Not as sharks. So crashfish ignore them. :p

[umbral carbon]

my only gripe is that choke is bad compartively

[jagged radish]

As someone who spends a lot of time reading the Subnautica wiki, thank you for your service

[umbral carbon]

because it three-shots heavy armor, and as soon as you run it you will run into 5 repressors/captains

[chrome summit]

But yeah. Once everything dies done with SN 2 I can go back to SL Wiki

[prime fossil]

stupid crashfish pick and choose what they want to kill and deciding that I'm more dangerous than a giant demon of the sea

[dense nova]

when light containment gets redesigned i hope it also has the wackiness that heavy containment has at times

[jagged radish]

If the Subnautica wiki didn’t exist 95% of the editing for a video I made for it wouldn’t exist

[dense nova]

like heavy containment zone is a fever dream

[chrome summit]

If you want

[cunning sigil]

is pears 5 still going?

[chrome summit]

#general-chat

[mystic hamlet]

y'all remember Pixel Gun 3D?

[prime fossil]

light containment is probably gonna look like a nice laboratory

[mystic hamlet]

they released a continuation of the campaign like 2 weeks ago

[dense nova]

realistically speaking the SL heavy containment zone is probably the most inefficient design for a facility ever

ignoring the fact it changes every 20 mins

[prisma crescent]

In the CB lore the facility was fucked because a Chaos designed it.

[prime fossil]

the worst parts about it would just be the inaccessable hallways, dangerous pits, poor containment of anomalies, and random doorways

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[prisma crescent]

IDK if SL has a reason for it being so awful.

[jagged radish]

For pixel gun 3D? wtf

[mystic hamlet]

yeah

and they are (for some reason) making a Pixel Gun 2

[dense nova]

new HCZ is so much fun to play gameplay-wise but opening some doors in heavy feels like when you step into a room that's bigger on the inside than the outside

[prime fossil]

heavy having rails to transport boxes that get stopped by small doors that can't allow said objects to pass through

[jagged radish]

HCZ so good until you get that one bullshit layout where both parts of heavy are only connected by like one obscure hallway

[dense nova]

ALL my homies hate ts

[prime fossil]

whenever I get 079, I see some random island connected by one random hallway in the center of the map with elevator B sitting in the center

[jagged radish]

Idk what layout that is out of them but it’s terrible

[dense nova]

well now compare that to the idea i heard someone suggest of making EZ into two separate zones for different checkpoints and NOW you've got a problem

never let the community cook

[prime fossil]

trust the idea of EZ having two different zones

this is how we get SL 2

[jagged radish]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[dense nova]

okay tbh though i kinda like the idea though

[meager sparrow]

HCZ layouts are on the internet

You can check iirc

[jagged radish]

I’m not doing all of that bro

Lmao

[mystic hamlet]

so NW when can we expect swole 049?

[meager sparrow]

Swole?

[jagged radish]

049 needs to start hitting the gym

That’s when

[meager sparrow]

That bulked up 049 gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160557947152236544/1437904441599594546/fade.gif

[chrome summit]

!wiki Heavy Containment Zone #Map Layouts

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Heavy_Containment_Zone_#Map_Layouts

[dense nova]

Site-02's design wavers from "civilian working area" to "maintenance factory tunnels" so i mean if you had 1/2 of EZ with Gate A that included more civilian designed rooms and another half of EZ with Gate B that had some minor maintenance rooms and such then it might work

but also

who the fuck gonna want that

EZ's fine as one zone lol

[mystic hamlet]

hi flerk

[jagged radish]

It’s just too much imo

[prime fossil]

this would be better for PEARS 5, as you could seperate the loot through these parts of EZ

[foggy summit]

What's new in pears 5

[jagged radish]

EZ does need a rework but not all of that

[dense nova]

pears 5 overall or just this new week

[prime fossil]

base game EZ is useless because the loot sucks and if you get in there, there's nothing for you

[dense nova]

most important update of pears 5 is making the LCZ decontamination ACTUALLY 15 minutes

[prime fossil]

I'm not sure if the countdown is still accurate, because I'm pretty sure CASSIE lines up with The Final Flash of Existence during the last 30 seconds

[prisma crescent]

TBH apart from SCP-956, pears seems way more exciting then Mega Patch 3.

[jagged radish]

If anything makes it out of PEARS it should be the actual 15 minute decontamination

[shadow dune]

i love my 11 minute and 7 second decontamination though

[prime fossil]

it probably wont, because in base game, decon is slow enough to let it be looted before the total late game starts

[dense nova]

okay well devs are feeding us good anyway

[jagged radish]

https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-punch-omni-man-strong-gif-7980804001733610778

[shadow dune]

base game has a smaller LCZ tho

[meager sparrow]

This scene is insane

[prime fossil]

I'm focusing on increasing decon timer, not anything else

[meager sparrow]

That uppercut is crazy

[jagged radish]

I’ve watched that episode 5 times it’s so fucking good

[dense nova]

pears adds ~20 new rooms to LCZ if i had to estimate

[meager sparrow]

He literally got all the aura back

[prime fossil]

and still makes it so every 2 cooridors should be a special room

[prisma crescent]

Yeah but I would rather have the Pear changes now intead of in 2 years.

[shadow dune]

11 minute decon is fine in base game cause LCZ is tiny
15 minute makes more sense now that LCZ is a real zone and not 5 rooms big

[prisma crescent]

I really don't care about the surfce rework tbh.

[dense nova]

you CAN have the pears changes now if you pay 10 bucks

[prisma crescent]

Atleast compated to PEARs.

[prisma crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-miyabi-hoshimi-cat-yes-no-gif-17225057258522103548

[paper lake]

!pears

[chrome carbon]

When is the next PEARS test and what will it cover?

The ongoing PEARS Session (PEARS 5) is available for Tier 3+ Patreon Supporters!
It focuses on an early game overhaul, with the second session starting <t:1777662000:R>
Click here for the Changelog

What is PEARS?

Patreon Early Access Rebalancing Sessions are experimental testing sessions offered to Patreon Supporters which allows the development team to experiment with concepts in a prototype state without affecting the development cycle of an upcoming update.
Feedback gathered from these sessions will help determine whether these ideas are worth pursuing, but does not guarantee they will be implemented into the live game

[meager sparrow]

Miyabiiii

[dense nova]

okay i feel like PEARS is the equivalent of throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks and it turns out that we were actually throwing darts at the wall and they all hit the bullseye at the same time

[jagged radish]

PEARS only good if you care about meeting the other Patreon supporters

[prime fossil]

it would still get looted, you have like 5 minutes in base game to loot everything in light with your guys
in PEARS, you respawn after 7:30, which would give you ~1 minute (after running through heavy) to loot

[paper lake]

New changes are now the first tab in the link

[meager sparrow]

Only good if you wanna bully Hubert

[jagged radish]

I haven’t seen that fucking guy in like 3 years lmao

[prime fossil]

PEARS feels like a regular official game lol

except the people are a little nicer

[meager sparrow]

He was in the first pears

[jagged radish]

I know he still plays though, he was probably on when PEARS started earlier today. Unfortunately I had way too much shit to do

[dense nova]

if there's any reason to buy patreon its to play alongside northwood staff so you can beat them in a gunfight

prove your superiority or whatever

stroke your ego

[prime fossil]

and then they use the bugs they created to drop you dead

[lilac sandal]

wait question

how does the infiltrator look with armor

[dense nova]

i think people like pears more than they do the upcoming megapatch because PEARS genuinely changes the entire flow of the game in a way that MOST people ive seen enjoy

[prime fossil]

I don't think they have armor models

[dense nova]

idk if theyve even modeled it, its just a pears

like

there's 8 rooms that are just greyboxes

[meager sparrow]

Just pray for LCZ rework

[dense nova]

give or take

[paper lake]

It throws a helmet on top of the model iirc

[meager sparrow]

Which is like, gonna take years

[lilac sandal]

chaos or like defaul

[prime fossil]

pretty sure infiltrator looks like a black ops from opposer's forces

[meager sparrow]

Opposers forces

larp?

[paper lake]

Throws a CI helmet on the model

[dense nova]

i mean its not just an LCZ rework but also an EZ rework, a keycard rework, a class rework, an overall early-game rework, a new sublevel, and portions of an HCZ rework

[prisma crescent]

The only things being added for Mega Patch 3 is SCP-953 (Very Cool) and then Surface rework which seems to be really champy and will be laggy.

And nothing else.

Where Pears changes everything.

[prime fossil]

I only have 1/2 of my soul, as I am the opposition with force

[meager sparrow]

damn, tuff man

[paper lake]

Don’t remember if it was fixed, but first time I played it, the helmet would be visible on in the viewmodel to spectators looking through that player

[prisma crescent]

The surface rework doesn't even really matter since everyone is just going to rush to EZ which is in a worse place the surface.

[meager sparrow]

LCZ is like NW's least priority iirc

[dense nova]

in northwood's defense its about time they make surface gameplay interesting

[meager sparrow]

So LCZ rework will take a very long time

[prisma crescent]

EZ is worse then it is in CB 😭

[paper lake]

So at the very top of the spectated player’s perspective, you can see the helmet of an infilrator player wearing combat armour

[meager sparrow]

i hate scp 860

[prisma crescent]

I can't wait for more places for 106 to camp!

[meager sparrow]

genuinely annoying

[prime fossil]

gorgon freemann is the class-d, kleiner is the scientist, chaos is the hecku, and infiltrators are the blackops

[dense nova]

the entire reason new HCZ works is because there are strategic points and you can actually hide and think and have a chance to navigate around enemies

[meager sparrow]

Speaking of spectator

[dense nova]

surface zone right now in game is like

[paper lake]

SL removed all the fun parts of EZ

[dense nova]

the antithesis to that

[prisma crescent]

I wouldn't want that but CB has a lot more rooms then SL does in EZ.

[paper lake]

Surface definitely needed a rework first

[dense nova]

on surface if you aren't next to an elevator and someone's coming for you YOU ARE DEAD

[meager sparrow]

True...

[prime fossil]

I'd like it if SL had more SCPs like 330 sitting in HCZ and LCZ

[prisma crescent]

Doesn't it sort of need to be that since it needs to be the end point of the game due to nuke?

[meager sparrow]

More scp rooms

More random scps that you can die to

[prisma crescent]

I wish there were passive SCP and useless funny SCP items like in CB.

[dense nova]

okay wait wait wait wait

[meager sparrow]

I'd love random bullshit

[dense nova]

guys

[prime fossil]

I am

[dense nova]

so pears 5 adds these new rooms to LCZ which are like TC-01 but they're just empty test rooms

[meager sparrow]

guys i think he is

[dense nova]

and they sometimes spawn with a keycard

anyways i think these rooms are the PERFECT addition for more 330-esque concepts

[prisma crescent]

Please have useless funny stuff to play around with.

[dense nova]

and it makes more sense and more benefit when you consider the longer time for LCZ to be open and active

[meager sparrow]

Js add more scp rooms

[paper lake]

Im not sure about deliberately funny items like 420-J in SL
I rather things like 330 which when you think about it, is kinda horrifying. Imagine losing your hands. But can be used for funny purposes

[meager sparrow]

For funny useless stuff

[prime fossil]

sadly those rooms haven't been created to connect with other hallways, which is possible but too late for PEARS

[paper lake]

I feel like items like 420-J kinda just feel forced

[chrome summit]

They are

[dense nova]

same argument with adding 294 to the game

like

its kind of a forced concept

[prime fossil]

if you have enough useless random nonsense that does very little, it can make stuff like 420-J seem normal

[chrome summit]

261 would be so much cooler

[prisma crescent]

Not like just J but just SCP that are only there to be novel.

And for fun game play scenarios.

[prime fossil]

SCP-294 would be really annoying to make ngl

[paper lake]

Yeah but I don’t want stuff like that to be the “norm” because it’ll still just be forced

[prime fossil]

yeah, and -J SCPs just don't fit SL

[prisma crescent]

Stuff like the safe SCPs in CB light zone.

[chrome summit]

People only ask for 294 cause CB had it

When 261 exists and is far more interesting

[prisma crescent]

294 would suck.

[paper lake]

I believe the humour of SL derives from how we make light of all the horror in it

[meager sparrow]

Add SCP 001 to SL

[prime fossil]

really only safe SCPs can be passive, as they don't move

[prisma crescent]

They should re add the 294 room but not add it the SCP it's.

[chrome summit]

I want the vending machine that dispenses an entire microwave

[paper lake]

Some guy walking down a hallway talking then gets randomly jumped by 939. Can’t help but laugh at it

[dense nova]

hear me out; redesign the coins that spawn around the map to be Yen and add 261

[chrome summit]

We arent gonna readd a CB asset

[prisma crescent]

They can be SCP items.

[prime fossil]

generally the sound effect that plays when 939 pounces in your view should make you freak out

[chrome summit]

Especially one that clips into everything

[dense nova]

also the 294 room is kinda designed like shit im gonna be real

[prime fossil]

item SCPs are usually safe SCPs

[dense nova]

from a multiplayer perspective it's a death trap

[meager sparrow]

But can we have a cafeteria, not a cb asset but a new one

[prisma crescent]

What about CBT assets?

[chrome summit]

Im not level design

It's up to them whenever they rework EZ

[paper lake]

I remember making some lore for 261 if it was added in SL

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375797730781171794/1466585979946012742/image.png?ex=69f69221&is=69f540a1&hm=092f956a4d2589a01a9259f0cfbad32d88771b11812dd99c9964a1fff0a9f2bd&

[chrome summit]

Personally I just want 261

[prime fossil]

I like how CB designs a lot of rooms with a walkway and a lower section, it makes the site feel so much larger than the playable area

[chrome summit]

Because I want to carry around a microwave in the game

[prisma crescent]

There a differennce between the curret SCP items which all serve a gameplay purpose and the CB safe SCP which are mostly just stuff to mess around with.

[paper lake]

Ngl, I hate the phrase “Item appears to be X”

[prime fossil]

all of which are safe SCPs

[prisma crescent]

And?

[paper lake]

Like, you tested it. You should know if it is or is not

[prisma crescent]

???

[prime fossil]

is it, or is it not? the true question

[prisma crescent]

What's your point?

[prime fossil]

I don't know what your point is

[dense nova]

well i mean

[prime fossil]

you responded to what I said with random words

[chrome summit]

Adding content for the sake of just adding it can lean into bloat

[dense nova]

the thing about SCP is that they can't confirm anything

[paper lake]

I get that its SCP and anything can happen

[chrome summit]

Funny items really do not work outside CB or events

[prime fossil]

but we're SCP fans, we love item bloat

[chrome summit]

There is a reason coal and snowballs are only in events

[paper lake]

But its a story first and foremost. The writing matters

How its written is important

[dense nova]

well SCP's format is a formal and professional document

[prisma crescent]

Coal and Snowballs aren't novel at all though.

[prime fossil]

best part of SCP-079 is when the original storage 079 had was suspiciously effective at storing 079

[paper lake]

And a line like “It appears to me” just takes me out of it

[chrome summit]

Coal is completely novel

Coal? is not

[dense nova]

so when it's written as "Appears to be" they're leaning into the fact that even the most obvious facet of an object, its identity, is unknown

[chrome summit]

Snowballs are there just for fun as well

[dense nova]

which is part of the horror aspect

[chrome summit]

But really. All three are there just for fun

[prisma crescent]

Yeah but it's just something shitty to throw.

[dense nova]

the most powerful organization in the world, hidden from everyone in order to protect its population, isn't even able to confirm whether or not a vending machine is a vending machine

[prisma crescent]

It isn't like a SCP or anything.

[chrome summit]

Which is why it is only in events

[prime fossil]

candy is way sillier than it should be, but I guess we're okay with that

[paper lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1265193944136945694/1459129714588516465/ShopKeeperVsCoal.mp4?ex=69f678b1&is=69f52731&hm=71d410bce3fa29078ef345080e9af83559802e98916c30bf080edbcbb9474b48&

I love Coal?

[chrome summit]

And how does making a novel thing an SCP make it better?

[paper lake]

261 isn’t a horror piece

[meager sparrow]

screw scp items

Add dogs to SL so we can bully 953 into submission

[dense nova]

but SCP is

[meager sparrow]

there, said it

[paper lake]

Not always

There’s plenty of non horror articles

Hell there’s a ton of romance pieces these days as well

[prime fossil]

SCP is just a big community that helps people get their ideas into a space welcoming of them

[prisma crescent]

Because it's cool to see a SCP depicted instead of just some unity asset.

[paper lake]

And I quite enjoy the political articles

[jagged radish]

And what happens after that

[chrome summit]

Sure it is cool

[dense nova]

the idea of SCP at its core is the paranormal though, which while i concede is more often than not interpreted beyond horror, remains at its core "paranormal" QUITE LITERALLY MEANING "not normal"

[chrome summit]

It really depends how it is done

[jagged radish]

953 is chill?

[chrome summit]

4088 is in game

But in audio only

Which is a great way to handle it

[meager sparrow]

we kill

[paper lake]

SCP isn’t always horror
That’s pretty well agreed on. Its a setting for a story

[chrome summit]

But having a room with just an SCP in it that doesn't do anything (or only kills you) is not good for the game imo

[fiery salmon]

SCP-4088 ⁠— Sing us a song, you're a piano, man

by Deadly Bread
Object Class: Euclid
Rating: +253

💌 patreon.com/crombird

[paper lake]

The label of the story depends on the author

Not everything needs to link back to horror

[dense nova]

so you can say its stupid that they write "appears to be" but how can you confirm that an anomaly that dispenses "Diet Ghost" is actually a vending machine beyond just looks?

[paper lake]

Sometimes we’re allowed a happy ending

[prime fossil]

4088 canonically flies off into site-19 and blows it up?

[dense nova]

its not even about the horror when they write that

its about the paranormal

[prime fossil]

I believe the only issue with "appears to be" is that it's used so much that nobody can take it seriously

[chrome summit]

Magister, I am requesting we bring a piano to Site-02

[paper lake]

Idk. But its not a real paranormal organisation investigating. Its just a waste of words for no reason other than trying too hard to pretend to be something its not
Also they should have run tests on it. They should know if its a vending machine or not. Its a machine that vends items right, its a vending machine

[prisma crescent]

IDK having a working 008 could lead to emergent game play with people turning it on or off.

Stuff like that.

[paper lake]

Anyway, minor nitpicks

[chrome summit]

That just sounds annoying

[prime fossil]

if 008 was added I'd like it to just lock people who enter inside if they get infected

[chrome summit]

Someone going into 008's room just to spread it

[dense nova]

its a machine that vends but its not a "vending machine" as humans know it because that would imply we can confirm what the hell it actually is (which we cant)

[paper lake]

Not that important. Personally I won’t write a line like that unless the subject matter is something truly unknown that can’t easily be investigated

[chrome summit]

If your own teammate is doing it. You cant do crap then.

[prisma crescent]

Also something like 012 be turning on by 079 like in CB.

[prime fossil]

maybe like, if someone got infected by 008, someone else has to activate a decontamination in the control room

[chrome summit]

Again. This frels like adding content for the sake of it

[prisma crescent]

😭

[dense nova]

the first sentence of the description typically describes the initial entity (the -1) in visual context

[prime fossil]

that IS what 953 is

[chrome summit]

And not something that actually adds to the game

[prisma crescent]

Your just adding stuff to the game!

[paper lake]

953 has a purpose

[chrome summit]

953 is a new playable to fill in a role we thought was interesting with 3114

[paper lake]

It contributes to the game and has value

[dense nova]

guys if you want new SCPs to be added to the game then why dont you just go make your own SCP game

win win

[chrome summit]

008 being a thing players can just turn on is just team sabotage nightmare

[prime fossil]

never needed 953, SCPs were fine. It just adds more variety, such as: adding things to add things, creating more variety

[prisma crescent]

Why don't you just MOVE.

[chrome summit]

953 fills a purpose

[dense nova]

bro

[prisma crescent]

That's funny though.

[chrome summit]

Especially since the community wants a new playable

[paper lake]

Something like a battery that instantly kills you when you pick it up (Looking at you mysterious battery) that you quickly learn never to pick up or make doesn’t really add value to the game

[sturdy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[prime fossil]

identical idea here

[chrome summit]

Until it happens over and over again

[dense nova]

all im saying is

dont knock it til you try it

[chrome summit]

But more so, new playables can fill new roles in the gameplay

[dense nova]

wait until they actually release 953 to criticize it

[glass pilot]

they;re adding 244-C

[chrome summit]

Things that players can have fun with

[glass pilot]

next playable

[chrome summit]

Compared to, "lets add 012 and if you go into its room you die"

[prime fossil]

I'm not seeing how adding more items for players to mess with isn't adding things people can have fun with

[prisma crescent]

Getting fucked by the SCP-914 is funny the first time and not so much the 500th but that still part of the core loop of the game.

[chrome summit]

...

[prime fossil]

surely nobody here wants that!

[chrome summit]

Okay if you want me to be more clear

[glass pilot]

Wait hold on what's the convo here I'm seeing some 953 slander

[paper lake]

953 will have a meaningful contribution to the game. You’ll definitely interact with it a lot more than a item that does nothing but warp your screen for a few seconds

[chrome summit]

Content that has substance and new interesting gameplay opportunities

Vs room that kills you if entered

That's what I mean

[glass pilot]

Adding back 012?

[dense nova]

guys can we make it so that 244's cold eventually becomes exponential

[glass pilot]

Japanese soldier

[paper lake]

012 is dead

Sorry

[chrome summit]

Im sure a few players would enjoy it

[glass pilot]

Bro I'm asking what are we talking about

[paper lake]

I honestly have no idea

[prisma crescent]

Every game I play there is constant team sabotage and trolling, having a SCP do it is atleast better then people opening doors or not shooting SCP and spliting up.

[prime fossil]

a paper that kills you when you get near it only works in CB because the game is meant to be an exploration game where you die and learn

[chrome summit]

But then the "kills you if you enter room" becomes boring after awhile and people only enter it every 15 rounds or so

[prime fossil]

CB is meant to be played once and enjoyed as a story game, SL is a rounds game and things that kill you are just painful

[chrome summit]

That doesn't mean we should intentionally add features for easy sabotage

[paper lake]

I was in a different argument about how writing “Item appears to be X” in a well documented SCP article is just dumb imo

[glass pilot]

012 is for your SCP CB "All SCPS 2025" clip compilation, only purpose it would have in a multiplayer game is to trick new players and clipfarm

[dense nova]

i still dont see your point by the way

[paper lake]

To each their own

[chrome summit]

Hell, after some test. We removed one of the objectives for spawn system rework before it hit 14.0.

[dense nova]

like i think its just reinforcing the point of SCP which is they dont know anything

[paper lake]

Share with the class

[chrome summit]

If you saw the PEARs test. We originally had an "objective" where your team got punished for killing a disarmed civilian

[paper lake]

Oh right

[chrome summit]

It got removed since well. Team sabotagers wouldn't care.

Infact it would just encourage them more

[prime fossil]

while turning it into rewards was a good decision, it still isn't rewarding enough for people to do it much

[chrome summit]

Well. It has always been reward base

Most of the rewards had existed for years

[dense nova]

i greatly enjoy how the problem of "everyone dying early at the beginning" was fixed in PEARS

[prisma crescent]

SCP-018,SCP-244 and SCP-2176 are worse in this regard and yet they are in the game.

[chrome summit]

Really, the main thing we did was make the game actually tell you this 5 year old system existed

[prime fossil]

rescuing detained players isn't rewarding enouggh for guards to go, "I want to walk for 5 minutes and get very little

[chrome summit]

244, fair. Everyone hates that

[glass pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-home-lander-nao-no-gif-12606514540494555875

[chrome summit]

018 and 2176 have plenty of usages outside of a troll being a dick

[hidden wave]

Now that guards start in light and are trying to escape themselves, it does make much less sense to KOS I guess

since you're going there anyways

[prime fossil]

244 could be made stronger if it didn't spawn on the floor

[dense nova]

do people hate 244 because its useless or because its annoying?

[chrome summit]

But tell me. What usage does a player have going into 008's room to get infected

[paper lake]

PEARS 5 kinda fixes this since, as a guard, you also have the objective of escaping the facility

[chrome summit]

What benefit is there

[glass pilot]

It's deadass pointless bro

[mystic hamlet]

useless

[paper lake]

So you might as well take some CD along with the ride

[deft cargo]

3 scp 018= hell

[hidden wave]

https://tenor.com/Wkic.gif

mainly because it's annoying actually

[mystic hamlet]

one of its only uses was straight up removed in 14.2

[chrome summit]

I dont see a lot of team sabotage with those items really

[prime fossil]

never found 018 to be useful, creates a hazard and the effect of it takes so long that my enemies would've already gotten me

[hidden wave]

018 does an insane amount of damage if it hits lol

[chrome summit]

It's more meant to be a chaotic item

[paper lake]

018 is an item that specifically targets me

[weary crane]

it's fun

[hidden wave]

earlier today i was playing scp, dog got basically one shot by it and i lost half my health lmao

[chrome summit]

It tends to make people not go towards it.

[mystic hamlet]

it's a deterrant if anything

[paper lake]

It will go out of its way to mess up my day

[prime fossil]

018 is an item that points itself towards 049/939

[paper lake]

And just mine in particular

[dense nova]

now that i think about it, 244 is like a flashbang if it hurt you to benefit from and if you could walk away to end the blinding

[deft cargo]

make them in 914 so they wont

[chrome summit]

So it can help put distance between you and an SCP

[paper lake]

018 is a good tool for area denial

[glass pilot]

ok but bro check this shit

[deft cargo]

ball hates red

[dense nova]

018 is also really funny

[paper lake]

Unless I throw it, then it ends up doing nothing

[dense nova]

i dont like how 2176 just doesnt always shatter when you throw it

[chrome summit]

And yeah, 018 is one of the strongest items in game

[prisma crescent]

I'm going to be real I meant SCP-012 and got confused but still you could force people into 008 or flea there your self with the risk of being infected.

[paper lake]

Should always break if you left click it

[hidden wave]

i have never have 2176 not shatter when i throw it

[dense nova]

ohhhh thats my problem

[deft cargo]

you are underhand throwing it then

[dense nova]

i keep holding down right click

[chrome summit]

No one would run into 008 to hide

[dense nova]

same reason why my grenades always go like two feet huh

[hidden wave]

bro...

[paper lake]

Right click puts it on a 10 second timer

[hidden wave]

have you been right clicking this whole time

for everything

[chrome summit]

And it is more effective to shoot someone than forcing them into 008

[dense nova]

yes

[prisma crescent]

This have never happened to me.

[dense nova]

guys they dont have a guide on how to THROW

[hidden wave]

you can just press T when using ghostlight anyways

[paper lake]

Doesn’t it say left click to throw?

[deft cargo]

t is the best

[chrome summit]

2176 needs enough velocity to instantly shatter

[paper lake]

Or is it only right click to cancel?

[prisma crescent]

For every 2176 is actually useful there are like 3 times where the user gets them self kill and 5 where they get their team mates killed.

[chrome summit]

If it doesnt gain enough it simply cracks and then auto shatters a few seconds later

[dense nova]

i didnt realize there were changes to how far you toss an item whenever you hold right click and keep it out in your hand

[paper lake]

Iirc, the velocity needs to be like sqrt(42) m/s

[dense nova]

which is what i do with them most of the time

[hidden wave]

the funniest use i've seen of 2176 is using it to try and tesla people

[dense nova]

speaking of teslas

[chrome summit]

People pretty much never expect it

[paper lake]

I made an entire plugin making the ghostlight better

[sick sapphire]

Me running into 008 just to get infected and die to something else

[dense nova]

why dont they turn off whenever the 079 override happens

[chrome summit]

Good way to kill some enemies

[hidden wave]

idk
they should

but they don't

[dense nova]

new game suggestion popping up guys

[paper lake]

Because Site Security is still active

[chrome summit]

Small detail

[prisma crescent]

"enemies"

[sick sapphire]

Friendly fire in a non FF server

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-undertale-deltarune-gif-8006577193793263180

[dense nova]

i mean i kinda assumed that site security would shut down during that brief period too considering how 079 is ejected from the cameras

[chrome summit]

How often is a player near a tesla gate when overcharge happens

[paper lake]

If anything, 079 should be able to disable teslas and they should be re enabled once the bot is gone

[chrome summit]

Would be a nice detail

[hidden wave]

fairly often i'd imagine

[chrome summit]

But you can also see why it isn't a thing

[paper lake]

Oh you mean during overcharge. Do teslas stay active in overcharge?

[hidden wave]

i think i remember plugins doing it back in ~2020

[dense nova]

yea

[chrome summit]

Especially since overcharge usually only happens right before the round ends

[sick sapphire]

Yes

[paper lake]

I don’t remember it doing that

[dense nova]

i found it out a bit ago

[paper lake]

The painful way?

[hidden wave]

i also remember some servers that made teslas not activate for people holding a weapon managers tablet

so i'm sure it's possible to just turn them off for a few seconds

[glass pilot]

oldgem

[prisma crescent]

Do you think taslas will be removed soon?

[paper lake]

Unlikely imo. The game needs more environmental hazards, not less

[hidden wave]

they need to buff teslas

they're supposed to be harmful to scps and helpful to humans

[dense nova]

there should be a moving room in HCZ

like you know how in some games you have a pathway which you can rotate in the center of the room

add that to hcz

[hidden wave]

instead scps can run right through them and humans are the ones who get one shot

one shot the verb

[paper lake]

Tesla should instantly drain all of your hume shield

[dense nova]

like from blue prince

[prisma crescent]

Has this ever been true in game?

[hidden wave]

at one time they did enough damage to like, one shot 096

[paper lake]

If you want to run straight into a tesla to chase, the game should let you. But with a cost

[hidden wave]

i remember seeing a lot of new 096 players not know the timing and die instantly

[dense nova]

hear me out

what if there was a chance for teslas to fail

like at the time it'd zap it doesn't

[hidden wave]

what

why

[dense nova]

well im not dr genius but i wouldnt be surprised if tesla gates have a chance to completely wear themselves out

[prisma crescent]

When?

[paper lake]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-gabriel-ultrakill-ultrakill-gabriel-gif-13252738368989876490

[hidden wave]

like back when 096 had the pre scopophobia model

idk

[paper lake]

Site-02’s teslas are well maintained though

[paper lake]

We even get a maintenance log and everything

[dense nova]

well then maybe consider it in the eyes of the site's power

[prisma crescent]

And even then like people humans will die because they have to wait for the taslas while running.

[prisma crescent]

I remember dying to one as a SCP back then and being pissed but that was more because I was ass then them helping.

[dense nova]

like i feel like tesla gates would use a lot of power especially when theyre running consistently and not even zapping anything

[paper lake]

Plus we should think about whether its a good change or not gameplay wise

[hidden wave]

well they're not running constantly

they only run when someone is near them

[dense nova]

it adds variety to an incredibly uniform room and allows for players to have a slim chance for luck to be in their favor

[paper lake]

Like why should they change it. How does it make gameplay more interesting

[paper lake]

But people are still going to treat it the same

[dense nova]

not if they can hear an audio cue saying that its going to fail

[paper lake]

They’ll wait for the tesla to activate then run through

[hidden wave]

having the timing be offset every now and then could be cool

maybe

[prisma crescent]

All them not working is going to do is make people wait for them to work so they know it's safe crossing.

[paper lake]

Its a <5 second delay. No one is going to do it outside a chase.
And during a chase, they’re too busy to listen for audio cues

You still will barely notice a difference

[prisma crescent]

Every room in Heavy should have a tasla.

[chrome summit]

Well

Iirc, tesla gates did less damage back then

The difference is they dealt damage every frame

I do wish they were stronger though

I dislike how most SCPs can just. Ignore them.

[dense nova]

would it be annoying if 244 gave anyone who walked through it a slight chill which made switching items take longer over a short period of time, and the longer you stayed in the 244 gas cloud, the longer itd take for you to switch items and for a longer period of time

[paper lake]

I like the idea of an SCP choosing to sacrifice some health and taking a risk to end a chase faster. But teslas are very cheap

[dense nova]

nay not even just switching items

[prisma crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-hood-just-let-it-go-bruh-its-over-gif-2300031300461303277

[dense nova]

using them overall

[prisma crescent]

Trying to make 244 good.

😭

[chrome summit]

244 currently increases weapon draw time

Other item's draw times remain unaffected

[dense nova]

well i feel like people walking through 244, especially in the latter part of the round, just walk with their gun out already

[chrome summit]

Yep

[dense nova]

so the effect is really situational

[chrome summit]

Which is the issue with 244

The effects are pretty situational

[dense nova]

if 244 made it so it took longer for you to do ANYTHING it could actually serve as a genuine roadblock

[chrome summit]

Like, 244 increases item pick up time by 30% plus an additional 1.5s on top of that

[prisma crescent]

You shouldn't be picking up stuff in 244 to begin with.

[dense nova]

typically the only thing i see people picking up in 244 IS 244

[chrome summit]

You shouldn't

But it does mess with shopkeepers

[hidden wave]

Typically I pick up 244 and throw it off a ledge because it just makes everyone’s experience worse

[dense nova]

and when i say people i mean me

im the guy that picks them up

[hidden wave]

How do scp items give tokens again

Is this on the wiki

[sick sapphire]

How it feels to use a grenade to destroy 244 so its no longer in play

[chrome summit]

Upon pick up

[hidden wave]

!wiki

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

[sick sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-kamikaze-explosion-gif-15875063139611313358

[polar locust]

Scientists with pink candy in 914

[chrome summit]

Oh yeah

Warhead despawns 244

Pretty sure 244 is culled anyways though

[dense nova]

i have a lot of ideas for the game but they really wouldnt work in the short frame of the round

[paper lake]

What sort of ideas?

[hidden wave]

It says it gives influence on use though

In the wiki

[paper lake]

Oh yeah, wiki says using SCP items giving influence points

!wiki Spawning Mechanics

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Spawning_Mechanics

[chrome summit]

I didnt write the page

[dense nova]

well i had the idea for an scp item that allowed for you to use abilities from previous scp items after theyve already been used (albeit on a lower extent) but i dont even know how thatd work... like sucking the soul out of a corpse??? idk

[chrome summit]

But it should be pick up

[paper lake]

Why would you spread misinformation Terran

[dense nova]

anyway corpses despawn and stuff

[chrome summit]

Probably just a left over

[paper lake]

This is all your fault

[hidden wave]

So it is on pickup?

[dense nova]

and i dont even know if there's an scp that does that

[hidden wave]

cool

Was worried I wasn’t getting influence for throwing away 244 and 207

[chrome summit]

[dense nova]

i had an idea for a game which was purely a visual presentation of what EVERY scp on the wiki's containment would look like

just an idea because that's way too much effort for way too little reward for me

also kinda incompatible with like

a lot of new generation scps

[chrome summit]

Sounds like hell

[prisma crescent]

What wrong with 207?

[chrome summit]

And every CB fan would hate it for not being CB

[dense nova]

to narrow it down a bit i tried to catalog the containments for every SCP at site-19

there's like

200 at site-19

[chrome summit]

People are still upset over the nerf

[prisma crescent]

Most SCP don't even have a traditional containment cell though.

[chrome summit]

It's still an effective tool. Just more punishing for mindlessly holding shift all the time.

[dense nova]

yeah this is what i found out

[sick sapphire]

Tbf I think 207 stacking needs to be removed

[dense nova]

every SCP had a different containment system

[sick sapphire]

It serves 0 purpose

[dense nova]

so i couldnt categorize it

[deft cargo]

how dare i not move at the speed of sound with no consequences

[chrome summit]

914 is located in its own building above ground

[dense nova]

actually its own complex

[deft cargo]

but funny

[dense nova]

with housing, storage, offices, etc.

[chrome summit]

Complex
Building

Tomato
Tomato

Big building with a lot of stuff

[prisma crescent]

And most cool containment procedures aren't just weird metal boxes.

[dense nova]

hear me out

new game idea

[chrome summit]

And somehow it still causes containment breaches every now and then

[dense nova]

its just a chill 914 experience

[chrome summit]

There is no chill 914 experience

[dense nova]

i think 914 would be a pretty fun sandbox

[hidden wave]

I think it drains hp too quick and it’s annoying to have to constantly heal

[chrome summit]

The HP drain isn't that high

[sick sapphire]

You have infinite stamina

[prisma crescent]

I mean I don't like using it but it's not worth throwing off the map or it being bad.

[sick sapphire]

I think that needs a trade off

[hidden wave]

it is to me

[deft cargo]

that is the cost of inf stamina

[chrome summit]

The nerfs were for the most part reverted

[hidden wave]

and I don’t like having to deal with other people having it either

So the answer is simple

[dense nova]

@chrome summit would you happen to know what 207 tastes like

[deft cargo]

2 cola funi

[sick sapphire]

The funny thing is the nerf to 207 encourages people to only sprint when necessary

[dense nova]

oh all-seeing seer of wiki knowledge

[chrome summit]

I assume it tastes like coca cola

Since well. That's what it is

[dense nova]

well that ruined my day

[deft cargo]

yes it should just taste like cola

[hidden wave]

They named 207 wrong

[chrome summit]

Which was pretty much the point

[dense nova]

i wanted it to taste like pepsi

[sick sapphire]

Basically dont hold shift + W all the time

[hidden wave]

Just like ghostlight is the wrong type of lightbulb

[dense nova]

no wait

[chrome summit]

No it isn't

[dense nova]

i thought anti cola was grape juice

[chrome summit]

Anti-Cola is not pepsi

It is not grape juice

[dense nova]

is it something grape

[chrome summit]

No

[sick sapphire]

Its raspberry

[paper lake]

Cola and Pepsi taste the same

[deft cargo]

is it cherry cola

[paper lake]

Its anti matter

[chrome summit]

No @deft cargo @sick sapphire

[dense nova]

why look like grape if not grape?

[sick sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/dremvillain-homelander-the-boys-no-no-no-no-gif-9065572645494812958

[deft cargo]

is it a nuke

[chrome summit]

As Anti-Cola's creator. My claim is that Anti-Cola is a sour soda.

[paper lake]

https://tenor.com/view/false-gif-10814314758405640492

[chrome summit]

It isn't sweet at all.

[prisma crescent]

Anti-cola is water.

Thick water.

[sick sapphire]

No that would be SCP-021-J

[dense nova]

anti-cola is a sour soda... that tastes like sour grapes if they existed

[chrome summit]

The player gags when drinking it

And I will fight Narrative Design to have my taste claim over my item

[deft cargo]

like warhead soda

[sick sapphire]

So its quick revive from waw zombies

or black ops zombies

[dense nova]

if PEARS gets implemented can they add LCZ variants to the elevator rooms alongside the HCZ variants to the elevator rooms

it would Be Neat

[paper lake]

LCZ rework 🙏

[sick sapphire]

The EZ rework

[prisma crescent]

I LOVE REWORKSW.

[dense nova]

see you lure them in with mention of PEARS 5 and they think you're gonna talk about the game's upcoming renaissance but then you mention how "appears to be" is a VERY REASONABLE PHRASE

[deft cargo]

"wE nEeD mOrE aNtI iTeMs"

[paper lake]

Honestly PEARS 5 showed me just how terrible the current early game is
So honestly I would prefer a LCZ rework before EZ rework if it also came with the early game overhaul

[dense nova]

blah blah pears 5 blah blah armorer card blah blah it just makes sense if you think about it blah blah blah

[jade tulip]

i love new game features

[deft cargo]

said by someone

[dense nova]

dude what would anti-018 even be

a ball that loses speed?

[chrome summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407075419586560/1492631769265082369/ezgif_44a73b205fd25d08_V1.gif

[jade tulip]

a baseball glove

[chrome summit]

These are the someones

[paper lake]

Immovable object

[dense nova]

i like the idea that it doesn't even explode at the end

it just stops moving

[paper lake]

It absorbs energy

[deft cargo]

im mocking

[paper lake]

And stores it

[prisma crescent]

a cube that can't be moved.

[chrome summit]

I know

[deft cargo]

i guess

[chrome summit]

I was giving the example of the someones

[dense nova]

anti-1576 allows you to directly communicate with someone alive

[chrome summit]

!wiki Radio

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Radio

[dense nova]

yes but like radio if it actually worked 99% of the time

[deft cargo]

anti 1853 makes you miss all your shots

[paper lake]

Anti-1576 makes you sane and encourages you to live

[chrome summit]

!wiki 244

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=244

[chrome summit]

[deft cargo]

see

[prisma crescent]

It forces you to be a Friendly.

[paper lake]

Anti 500

[dense nova]

anti 1509 gives health to people and turns them into zombies if you hit them too many times

[deft cargo]

thats just death

[paper lake]

Inflicts all the status effects that are normally taken away by 500

[deft cargo]

so just death

[paper lake]

A slow agonising death

[deft cargo]

not slow

[paper lake]

Make anti 500 give you a slow painful death

More interesting like that

[chrome summit]

!wiki File:IconCandyPink.png

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=File:IconCandyPink.png

[dense nova]

"what status effect did the admin just give me?"

"Cancer"

"what"

[deft cargo]

you just explode from the anti and normal cola

[paper lake]

You get cancer irl

[chrome summit]

I guess Black Candy also works

[paper lake]

Stop ruining this for me

[chrome summit]

Which is like, 8 effects or something

[dense nova]

does black candy have a chance to make you go pink

[paper lake]

Yes

[chrome summit]

See, the funnier thing would be make it so anti 500 gives you every effect it can not cure

Which is like 90% of the effects in this game

[half dragon]

Anti-018 that just doesn't bounce at all

It hits a wall and just drops to the ground

[paper lake]

Severed hands and blindness

[chrome summit]

And severed eyes

[paper lake]

Yeah is that not what blindness is?

[chrome summit]

And Pocket Corrosion teleports you to the PD

And decontamination

No

Blindness is seperate

[honest sluice]

Add anti 999

Just kills you

[deft cargo]

its a all in one

[dense nova]

this year's halloween rework for 330 should add like 1000 different shades of colors and each time you pick a candy, it gives you a random shade and a list of random effects that it generates on the candy

[paper lake]

I thought severed eyes was just 100% blindness

[paper lake]

Anti 999. Actually likeable

[deft cargo]

that just 035

[paper lake]

!999

[chrome carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488693307225014272/1284167557749932082/999dies.gif?ex=66e5a5bc&is=66e4543c&hm=117ef29b2688b4555731cc5ddcbc4882e58044d78485817d2fb2c8fd3436fb94&

[dense nova]

bro i got cerulean blue candy and it gives me Pit Death

[chrome summit]

!wiki Status Effects#Blindness

[chrome carbon]

https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Status_Effects#Blindness

[chrome summit]

Separate effect

[half dragon]

The Scarlet King

[chrome summit]

Oh yeah

[dense nova]

bro i got periwinkle candy and it gives me max speed for 4 seconds

[chrome summit]

Pit Death is a status effect

So you dont get to experience anything

You just instantly die

[paper lake]

Oh removing 1344 gives both blindness and severed eyes. That makes sense

[chrome summit]

Severed Eyes was originally just used to spawn the eye props and remove them from the model

Bleeding was applied to kill the player but bleeding is too slow

[dense nova]

why doesnt SCP:SL add voice lines for whenever your character does generic shit, like in triple-a games

[chrome summit]

So Severed Eyes deal damage

[dense nova]

do yall know about the mario if it was made in 2025 memes

[digital ice]

cus it'd interrupt how players voice chat

[paper lake]

So you can remove your eyes but still be able to see if you remove blindness

[dense nova]

i wasnt being serious but

[chrome summit]

I guess there is also the thing where first aid kits can remove Bleeding. We got close to permanent blindness in SL

[digital ice]

imagine you're voice chatting all good and then suddenly your character says "Danger!!"

[chrome summit]

Yes

But 500 can't affect Blindness if the intensity is set to 101 or higher

[dense nova]

"Glad that's all taken care of."
"Better keep an eye out... there's anomalies afoot."
"I need a medkit... fast!"
"What is this, some kind of... ball?"

[digital ice]

🫠

[umbral carbon]

Noted.

[chrome summit]

See

This is why it is very important to emphasize

[paper lake]

Would be funny if all the voicelines used the full SCP article name for each anomaly

[half dragon]

Does removing the goggles actually kill you or does it just permanently blind you

[chrome summit]

500 does NOT remove all status effects

[umbral carbon]

I'm gonna write this down as blindness intensity

[paper lake]

Look out, its With Many Voices

[chrome summit]

Infact, it can't even remove half of them

Hell, it probably isn't even 25%

[paper lake]

Damnit, we’ve been tricked by Wouldn’t it Be Chilly

[chrome summit]

It drains your HP over time

[umbral carbon]

So 101 is what 1344 uses?

[half dragon]

"Aw crap, it's SCP-173 The Sculpture"

[chrome summit]

When removed

[umbral carbon]

yeah

[chrome summit]

When equipped it uses 100

[paper lake]

That demonic Polymorphic Humanoid is going into the incinerator where it belongs

[umbral carbon]

and ticks to 15?

[chrome summit]

Ye

[half dragon]

Darn

I think it would be funny if it didn't kill you

It just made you endlessly blind

[dense nova]

"This tesla gate is active... better watch my step."
"SCP-049 spotted ahead. Better run."
"Nine Tailed Fox, huh? Might need to be more careful."
"These are some interesting clockworks."

[umbral carbon]

you can technically live

[deft cargo]

my god it’s scp 096 look away

[chrome summit]

Removes 5 negative effects

[dense nova]

"Keep an eye out, SCP-096 is on the loose"

[half dragon]

roundhouse kicks 096
"Yeah, I'd hide my face too if I looked like that"

Leon Kennedy solos SCP