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i meant to use the deltas as a pointer
look left -> move cursor left
look up -> move cursor up
etc
you have me an idea

DOOOM
BUT ON SL
BETTER
than before
and a game engine
with primitives
if you can run doom on a pregnancy test, you can run it inside snake
i tried
too hard
dam
dam
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btw doom ran on this too
with half life
axwabo can i ask you something in dms?

yeah, do you have the ability to do so?
ok
on KPG, we have a ShopPlugin which has the UI under Server Specific Settings.
Im gonna have to check that out.
Ah, i see what you mean by that. Although i am talking about role specific, which would not work for that method.
I could change it probabbly to have different items per player
I was thinking of just having a CanSee filter method that would be used for some items
It wasn't made for TTT tho
@wary gust if i were to do something like that, (i haven't used SSS before so i do not have a full understanding of how it works so correct me if i am wrong) the options would need to be able to change when a role is set, not on server start
SSS can be updated whenever
you can use SecretAPI which makes it a million times easier for you
override CanView, and call SendSettingsToPlayer when the role changes
Alright
You can look at the SSS menu Kitchen Island has. They have a dropdown which selects a submenu iirc (I can't be bother to make that myself but I think it show how you can just update whatever you want)
Been a minute since i used it, does secret API have the nuget, or is it the dll right now?
i thought i remembered seeing something for the pkgref
I would recommend using SecretAPI like axwabo said tho
it has one yea
i still wonder how kitchen island does their tags
its really crazy
because like the background color and so on
wdym?
They have a custom tag system where they can customize them
if you go check
im asking what you mean by tags
Randomize the locations for different players
badges (I think)
oh
yea
i do wonder because i tried everything and couldn't get them to work
like they don't accept colors
let me show you
no i cannot
buh
*gal
gm eve
gn eve
hi slime boy
is it possible to slow down gun and item handling speed like the hypothermia effect?
Nop
damn
negative intensity for 1853 
if only
is there a way to trigger the escape event on a player
dam
i don't know how tmpro does that
dw about it
idk how tf none thought about it
tbh
i'm probably gate keeping it because NW will patch it
100%
i'm not risking it
Oh riptide works there
that explains alot
idk tho i don't wanna risk it
lol
i think i know
now that you say it
i'm gonna just send the code i used here
surrogate pairs?
flame
nvm
let me test how much i can do
of damage
lol
it works
lol
20k from nw to patch it crazy bug bounty
ok maybe thinking better of it, i shouldn't release it bad actors and so on
ig i understand why none released it prior
@harsh thorn
hell nah

the ced will find it
me and ced
be like
that's why i was thinking of gate keeping it and not saying anything lol
check the csg
if i don't do anything bad with it

!csg
you're using global colours
so itd be against vsr, idk abt csg tho
what does 4.1 say again 
😄
did you report it
i got wind of it because someone asked it
you want me to report it?
i can do it rn
if i go down they go down with me
let me do a report rn
not if i report it first
you like ingame or not?
they don't violate tho any code lol
neither do i
both ways to report is fine but emails is better cause you can attach proof
oh ye
it can probably be stretched to 5.5 imo but thats prob not what S&C would do
so what i'm hearing is
ig youd just report the bug itself rather than the server
both of us are could go
damn
bug bounty?

no
damn ;(

nothing
what makes me wanna report it
if i don't get anything
and i just win cool badges
and wait
it would be on the SL normal
or LabAPI
because this is more
you can do it with cedmod
with anything
tbh
you can do it with base game
so itd be in the #bug-reporting channel
or whatever its called
that process
but like
hmmm
then the bug would be public
i will think about it, i will consult my furry lawyer
QA can private stuff if its critical enough
(at maro)
drake laptop
This is not critical at all
instead it is cool
it gives us the badge rework we all wanted
Let's see what qa is online
btw i'm saying it
i love finding bugs like this
i will forever try and strech it until i can
.
you mean use it?
i mean i wanna use it
its cool asf
i found so many issues with movement and so on
that we used on atoh
we just go and find bugs
and then use them
idk what atoh is
is atoh an acronym
Aftermath towers of hell
but aftermath closed
so
but who cares i'm gonna go have fun with the new bug i found

i took it upon myself to do the badge rework

btw its really easy to replicate ngl, and really easy to bypass again
just open it up
and that's it
dw
Crazy
i got this
you know that someone stole the aftermathserver patreon
handler
the day after maro closed down the server
like lol
ill tp everyone to 173s old room and they can use the stairs
XDDDD
what happened after
did u guys leave it be
they instantly stole the aftermathServer handler someone from the community lol
on disc?
no patreon
no but did u guys leave him be or get it taken down somehow
it still up
like if you go to patreon.com/AftermathServers
have you tried
leaving
it redirects you
to this random ass patreon
of someone that is from the SL community for what they told me
idk the specifics
lol
nuh uh
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1:2 male to female ratio bro
WAIT
CAN TMP LOAD IMAGES???
I dont think this is true?
@upper vapor
You can add sprites
but you have to add them to specific Unity folder
on the client
no xd
okay but
where are the agender ppl
git blame
;(
eaten
banned they'll ruin the ratio
right
that's what they do to you
anyways
i dont think thats
Back to procrastination of my learning by coding SL

Can you remove primitives
i'm gonna go back
waiting for my lawyer to wake up
she decides if this will be reported or not

and then i will go back studying for plan b in case it gets patched
so i can use it again
lol

Well now we at least know
lol
authed from same IP?
no
sure...
cuz its on Windows XP
ig tho
but like
is insane
lol
my first global ban, banned for exploting badges
😭
I think default sprites yes
I already know
Its patched out on centrals for usernames
Just not ingame rn, something for programming to fix cuz game bug
So can i use it
or do i get destroyed?
for like customizing badges
because CSG says nothing about it
Well, you aren't the only one
Im not going to hand out delists or bans for normal customization unless you purposefully try to immigate global badges
But don't be surprised when one day a client update rolls up that fixes it
ig


i do wonder why you guys didn't report it?
Was already partially known as Ced mentioned 
ban them spoon
theres 3 ways to achieve the effect, one was already fixed
but i guess the others were forgotten about as the guy looking into it left
So if you know how and aren’t abusing it then you should be safe to make some cool names / badges
though yeah it’s probably gonna get killed so you might not wanna offer it as a server perk unless you say it’s might get killed in the future
"Kill kill kill" - psyho
I mean its cool because it offer us to make cool badge so having it as a possibility is really cool
It is really cool but I also understand that some could do bad with it 
that's why i'm not sending code snippet here on how to recreate it 
for context, the reason it may be killed is:
at the moment, you can use it to impersonate global badges with some creative usage
while its cool for badges customizations, we wouldnt want to see "Hubert Moszka" running around with a gold badge that mimicks it exactly
aside from the checkmark, but itd show on the vc indicator as gold which may trick enough people
as right now the badge system is not ready for it
when the badge rework comes (it will come, believe me, im a knower
) itd not be a problem because NW badges are completely different from server
but still a solution for this would be not to allow colors
Badge = "superbadge"
so like replacing any color to the color of the badg
that would be a solution
and at the same time allow TMP
bagde rework as been like what
2019
it was announced
I believe we don’t use global badge colours so that was one way we stayed

still to this day we are waiting
trust the process (i forgot if when it was planned was publicly announced, so im not mentioning when) but its coming
what i'm saying is like you could make it that you cannot use any color outside of those and the color tag gets replaces
It’s here
Incrementing the serverrole counter 🔥 (with like +10)
lol
at hr leak

if next update it shows up then no sense to even use this feature lol
Whenever it releases will be
!8 is the release of 15.0 will be legendary?
As I see it, yes
!8 is pears ass?
You may rely on it
that's a no answer
honestly, i like pears (the test, not the fruit)
its so stupid
😭
I like pears
you stay in light 24/7 and die
The fruit and test
Wdym you dont like the fruit

Why not
i got out a few times
I always got out
the most times i'd die was in ways i'd die normally
then heavy became CB
(scps swarmed 914)
Even the omnious melon man likes it
go search the levers
I was so ready to reply with "who?"
What
In containment breach 049 spawns when you go to the security area in Entrance
If you open checkpoint suddenly all scps will be next to you
well, the levers are a concept, which is only a small part of PEARS
theres a lot more to it than just the levers being added
and btw pears is gray boxes too

the reason its gray boxes is because it was fully done by game design
kinda funny
Whole pears is GD work
so they made it themselves, no programmer/artist was involved
never let them cook again
cuz doing so would take them away from 15.0, which we dont want
idk whats your problem man 😭
like its so ass getting stuck on light and dying
because scps can camp
yeah same
you can always find keycard
Have you seen how hard is to escape light
Same
i always got out each time
???
theres like a million keycards scattered around too
You never played it
I've never played it, and no i'm not gonna buy the patreon either
the guards often speedrun to heavy unlock entrance and leave
okay but tram
and part of the gaurds then go into light to do stuff
the reason it was done so scps cant murder guards straight away
they can anyways
and so guards cant just speedrun to lcz and murder every d class on sight
Yeah
scps can easily camp on 3 elevators again
as by the time they spawn (IF they spawn) the d class would already have guns
cuz guards dont even spawn all the time
the camping problem became even stronger
sometimes its infiltrators
because people are gonna camp light
No?
out of the tests i played this didnt happen, at all
THE INFLITATOR IS NOT EVEN AN INFILTRATOR you can recognize the guy instantly
like the guy is so easy to spot
you blast the guy and scientist and classd have no guns or anything
but honestly, what you described has not happened to me a single time in any of the times i participated in PEARS
so idk man
because armory got nerfed too
Where did you even get this from
it has a lighter access level iirc
so it has lighter loot
Bother require the armor keycard
oh then its the same, nvm them
but its harder to escape and to upgrade
to get 127
or other stuff
thats the point
you cant just speedrun 05 in 914 grab everything and leave
i saw another change was the 096 cell getting buffed
so you cannot get out
atleast that's what they told me lol
i didn't see it because they didn't show it to me
096 cell was turned into a "broken door" in 14.2.x
Yea but it has a keycard
it still has one
yes but got buffed the requirement
That was like.. since...
to get it
14.X
but keycards were changed in pears, so chances are that room has a different one
it got changed for what they told me
I guess
either way, i enjoyed pears
i really cant see the problems mentioned form when i played pears, never got stuck, etc
so maybe whoever told you had a different perspective, but i suggest watching some videos to get a completer picture
to be harder
zero rather than trusting a patreon, why dont you test it yourself?
Yeah but you can now also get the door breach grenades
the guy who played it agrees with everything i'm totally oppsoite
i'm not paying patreon i'm sorry
You dont need to open 096/106 room
then dont trust randoms???
you should watch a video, cuz if they said "you can get stuck in light" is a very hard stretch 
Well getting feedback only from a single person is kinda ass 😐
The PEARS Changelog is publicly available if needed:
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Patreon Early Access Rebalancing Session Session 5 - Early Game Overhaul Patreon Early Access Rebalancing Sessions (PEARS) are experimental testing sessions offered to Patreon Supporters. PEARS allows for the development team to experiment with concepts in a prototype state without affecting the...
its very hard to get stuck in light tbh
I'm not trusting randoms lol, i asked a friend to open up a nondedicated and check out everything
unless you purpusefully avoid everyone and everything
ive only heard 1 person complain about pears, and that's you zero 😭
maro too
and some other people lol
i think the real zone it should be really changed is the poor entrance
they have like 3 hours of playing PEARS
i've already went through all of the changelogs lol
playing on nondedicated only shows you the changes, but it doesnt show how it actually affects the game
obv but still from that you can see how some rounds play
people camp alot
and stall the round
well thats always been a thing 
on current build
yea but giving them more spots to hide
isn't bad?
Decontamination:?
well if i hear scps im either running or im hiding 
it does not always work
HCZ size is the same
before that you went farmed 05 and go to 00 and destroy scps or if you didn't find gun flashbangs
Why is the 049's name C++ 
Well now you dont camp 914 as human
¯_(ツ)_/¯
neither before you could
So dunno where did you get the camping from
lol
the hallways on the t cross on light
My time spend in 914 in this pears was 2 upgrades total
like idk how to put it but then it should be lowered even 127
else it makes no sense
if you cannot get 127 why even is it in the game
before unlocking that finding all the levers the round is over
5/10 rounds i played the round got ended by DMS pushing everyone to surface and then scps (or humans) wiping eachother out
the rounds go on for pretty long
go watch a stream, it can give you a better view on just guessing based on the changelog and changes seen in create game
its a concept model, ofcourse its not going to look like the real deal
like said before, this was made entirely by GD
yea
like the design could've been a classD that is a bit different
but not like that Recognizable
Yeah but the layouts didnt change I think
but the model does look creazy though
nope just an other Room added
gotta admit
So same size
Yeah another thing
yes but like when heard the name expected a kind of classd not like a full fledge militant
HCZ elevators also prevent SCP camping
no?
the 2 elevators in the room are very far appart
in light or heavy
that the difference
in HCZ you cant really camp as the room is massive, and they could stand by a hallway, but the group can always just turn around
iirc its also got a forced connector type to be hallway, so it has no door
they can?

have you seen how wireless is 939
but like, go watch a stream, cuz i have not at all seen what you say occur any time when i played
the Elevator being more separated is a big help to prevent game where player was just constantly using elevator to escape
it's was frustrating when you couldn't rush a player because he constantly use elevator
working tram when
would be peak honestly, but its out of scope for a PEARS test
lol
that fair
just remove waypoints lol
and put them for elevators
also it's kinda integrate into an Animation Spawn
it has nothing to do with waypoints?
why ?
Lets not jump from Pears topic to Waypoints
they are annoying
for global position yeah
if a working tram exist
but honnestly it's fine for me
a working tram is not impacted by waypoints at all
it would work exactly like an elevator
cuz waypoints can move
working tram would required the DynamicWaypoint
You could make tram via waypoint just like people did cars on surface
but like i said, it was made by GD, so you wont find things that actually need a programmer in PEARS
The role's concept is not really final, as with everything regarding PEARS, the point is to not give much of a thought on the lore nor artistic implications and purely achieve the goals from a gameplay perspective. I don't think Game Design intends on the role being hard to recognize, but instead as a very distinctive counterpart to Facility Guards.
I'm not saying no lore or artistic thought was given, but that the point of prototypes is to not spend too much time justifying said things and instead focus on seeing the proposed idea in action.
If we end up implementing it, it might keep the Infiltrator name, it might not, the role itself might simply not stay. But we are currently focused on 15.0, therefor anything after that will require time to cook from all development teams. :p
ik but like they def should look into an idea of a working tram in SL, since its from pears we may not even get the static-spawn-location-tram
i am ready to say the tram will be working for release
but not for pears
sure
i would make that happen (they probably won't accept the MR)
Might be a language barrier but to clarify, we haven't really confirmed this, opposed to what Yamato's suggesting
^ Pears arent even confirmed to be released or used for next update(s)
^
Pears is a concept
GD will look at the test and decide what to do with it
either scrap everything, tweak things, implement parts into the game for a later update (NOT 15.0), etc
its really up in the air
i love how its so specified not 15.0
like its full of banners
hence why what beryl said "the focus is to prototype and not spend too much time"
People get very annoying otherwise
makes sense
Also
Despite us putting a disclaimer everywhere
We still get people not only asking if it'll be in 15.0
i know people cannot read
asking if itl be in 14.2.7
@upper vapor "I cannot read documentation i read code"
Or they get annoyed that "this is what 15.0 looks like" (screenshot with big disclaimer on the bottom saying it isn't 15.0)
i've lost hope for humanity once again
can we go back monkey
trueing
Working as a game dev has made me realize why so much of the shit I've seen on the games I've played (and play) is the way it is
the watermark isn't covering the whole screen
that's the issue
i think we should add another disclaimer here
tbh, i love finding bugs and then reporting them or just use them for cool stuff
i've reported bugs on R6
and so on
like i always did this stuff
modding is really fun
i find it way more enjoyable than staying on Unity
on Unity you have no constraints and can do everything instead on Stuff made by others you have those constraints and its fun finding gimmick to make it work
I enjoy both a lot for that reason
i was talking to a game dev because outside of sl i just mod on random game
and had so much fun finding a way to add my own custom commands
on their own system which was entirely Il2CPP so i cannot go and add stuff myself
patching is limited too
btw can we remove ida from being blacklisted 
no
then dont have sl open
ig
sl-ac is shy and doesnt want you looking at it
brilliant idea
ig how fast can you decompile it

mega challenge
themida would like to talk with you
doesn't themida have a reversing process on git?
lol
old
defintely not that simple 
i'm tweaking
and looking at the SL decompiled code would remove the fun of just trying and guessing how to do stuff
hmm if i do it offline none can 
yeah in that case its fine (granted you are not touching AC)
it doesnt need auth to orbital laser you
at AC can i touch you

sl without fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmF0b-SAYOI
Just more ported rooms from SCP: Unity
Its so horrible
already
i can just not even look at it and say
its a bad idea
my bad yeah
Thats false af
why tho the sl metadata is corrupted

wait until you see what im going to do to it for the 15.0 beta

honnestly i really appreciate the gameplay in pears
is this a challenge :3
if i send you the code from ida
will i get gbanned?
what code
C# code or C++ ?
if 15.0 releases i take it upon myself to try and get the Il2CPP on ida
java code for cs
i wanna see how much you can fuck up the metadata
oh you can get the il2cpp on ida, but the asset files and metadata will be unusable without some special code that wont live inside unity
metadata is
like
bro please let us get the Room data
:3
required to Il2CPP
not for the beta
oh ok
nerds
now
magic man has his magic ways
if it's only beta idc
all send ur cats
i will find it anyways :3
i love challenges
i have fun doing this stuff
hmmm
at VMS

did you patch what i sent you a while ago
that you can still get online with vm
vms are allowed under specific circumstances
online tho
yes
still allowed under specific circumstances
linux users exist
who either use proton, or use a vm
ig then
i'm just gonna touch that lol and restore
like not that hard
memory dump and brrr
you do realise that code is virtualized right?
yes
and idc about the code
i care about the metadata
it turns
void something()
dothing
doanother
doanother
into 400 functions
Adding Denuvo into SL
nw doesn't even have the money to cry
imagine to fucking buy denuvo
i want to see AI rewrapping that automatically
to get the metadata that way you'd need authorized access to the build first

i'm waiting for 15.0
but for the normal 15.0 release metadata will be normal
2089
ohhhhh
beta will get the special touch
ok i'm buying the patreon
ced's touch
you convinced me
Lmao
gg ez?
this shit is what makes fun my life
you do realise that if it nukes you you wont have beta access no more right
give Ced the patreon from Zer0Two
dc
and without beta access you cant even launch the beta 

so also no metadata
bank refunds exist
without access to the build you wont find it
even with access itl be funny cuz of funny things
lol
i mean i'm not cheating
nor do i care of cheating
i find it wayyyy stupid
cheating on sl
it's will not ban us just by trying to use assetridder ?
(so why doing it?)
you wont be able to use assetripper for betas
because assetsripper is just there reading files
fine
i mean for the assets who cares lol
or how monos are setup
Imagine how cool gaming would be if cheating didn't exist
i do but for an other reason lol
I AGREE
we're pretty close to that atm
i fully agreed
imagine the most popular sl cheat only having ESP, bigstep and noclip thats kinda just like sortof fly but not

if you guys think i do reverse on games for cheating, i just do it for fun and games
Honestly the cheat is so ass
silent aim is not even silent
you can spot it
what bigstep ?
You make irregular jumps
I mean like, not requiring an AC at all, in any games
they abuse the movement
yeah
that's impossible
the problem with fixing it would be that they start making the cheat look more "human"
which makes it harder to spot
but i guess if nobody sees the cheaters they wont complain
still tho they cannot
i think they are so stupid
pigstep
they will be still easy to spot
oh they definetely can if they put effort into it
you know perfectly how bad are sl cheaters
honnestly i never spot a cheater
which right now they arent doing because we arent closing thedoors they are using
i've spotted my few
well you wont have spotted too many the past few weeks

cuz there arent many
Personally I don't get annoyed by cheaters that much while playing games, I just think how much more fun it'd be to make multiplayer games and be able to trust clients safely
yesterday me and maro on cs playing a bit and found an SL cheater
their lifespan is short
though dependant on my mood
Minecraft reference?
yes
the guy got banned for detection for what he told us
1 gameban is enough?
a guy i'm not gonna name but everyone knows here
cheats on cs too
so
Maro
on an alt
Skill issue
lol
And I got banned in hypixel
never got banned for cheating because i suck ass
i got banned for exploting
because i made custom clients for server and exploit bugs

thank god Simon banned you
nah it was AC i think
nuh uh
my account got hacked in 2017
like
EVERYTHING
bro went on a cheating spree and got me perma banned
don't get hacked next time
😭
natural selection
even put nsfw on my pfps on yt and stuff 😭
damn
it was insane
my account btw not banned anywhere
Lmao
i was considering buying the patreon to test pears
but have to go to doctors and so on
those are expensvie

🍐
but what would that stand for
Orange
oranges
🍐

orange!
orange would be orange
wheres the one with the bird
OPatreon REarly ARebalancing NSession GIdk Eidk
Orange
APPLES:
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gordon
when half life 3
next weekend
what is WRONG with you
Eve
😭
someone moved a gameobject by mistake
☠️
UI z order
your fault
ummm
Its actually zero-two chance
ok you think you are funny
Yes :3
crazy
