plugins-dev-chat

[hearty shard]

C# my beloved

[grand flower]

using is different in C++

somewhat

[hearty shard]

ok what

thats even a thing???

oh

wait

i see it there

lmao

[grand flower]

you can do it to "import" things from a namespace into the current one but that's considered bad

like if you have a type such as std::cout

you can do using namespace std; so that you can just use cout

[hearty shard]

character out my beloved

[grand flower]

but that's bad

you can also use it like C# to create aliases

[hearty shard]

ya cuz uhhh its a lot less clear what you mean right

[grand flower]

like in C# you can do using Logger = LabApi.Console.Logger; or whatever the namespace was

[restive turret]

using namespace boost;

[grand flower]

in C++ you use it for aliases

[hearty shard]

boost my server

[grand flower]

less clear and you can get conflicts

because if the current namespace also has a type named cout you're boned

better to be explicit and use std::cout

[hearty shard]

i see

[grand flower]

you won't pollute things

[hearty shard]

my main expectation was the clarification of it

[hearty shard]

cuz obviously theres a lot of variants of certain things like

[restive turret]

Holy size

[hearty shard]

Update

[grand flower]

yeah it's GetTicketForWebApiResponse_t

[hearty shard]

Update is horrifying as a name if theres no context

[grand flower]

holds an auth key

[hearty shard]

what the flip?

[hearty shard]

can we kill you

[grand flower]

why

[hearty shard]

cpp nerd

also

[grand flower]

this is Steam not me

[hearty shard]

also

im saying it regardless

anyway

uh

ive asked before and ive fully forgotten

what the fuck is class vs struct

[grand flower]

in C++, they're the exact same

[hearty shard]

damn

ok but C#

[restive turret]

Ye that because sometimes the ticket can be long af

[grand flower]

except one thing: class uses private access by default

struct uses public by default

for its members

[hearty shard]

oh

ok but what about C#

[grand flower]

in C# iirc class is heap allocated and struct is stack allocated

alongside some other things

[hearty shard]

isnt there exceptions to that

[grand flower]

been a while

probably

[hearty shard]

which is why im always so confused on it

[grand flower]

structs are value types

classes are reference types

yeah that makes more sense

[hearty shard]

guh

[grand flower]

but what I said is also correct

[hearty shard]

im so confused

[restive turret]

You can send struct to c++ from c#

[hearty shard]

what

oh

[restive turret]

I did that many times

[hearty shard]

as in calling C++ code with a C# struct

[restive turret]

And same as backwards

[hearty shard]

thats what u mean?

oh

okay

interesting

[grand flower]

yeah easier to marshall types between managed and unmanaged code using structs

[hearty shard]

marshall?

[restive turret]

Ye

[hearty shard]

words too big

[grand flower]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2240804/marshaling-what-is-it-and-why-do-we-need-it

[restive turret]

Eve doing side quests instead of learning source gen

[grand flower]

heh

[hearty shard]

YOU do it

i hate it already

i want to cry

[restive turret]

Good

[unique crane]

YOU

[restive turret]

Also nice i didn't know that

[hearty shard]

ill give u 5 cents to do it for me

[unique crane]

no

[restive turret]

David isn't it bedtime

[unique crane]

But the modifers being the same until you write the new one is crazy for me 😭

[hearty shard]

what

[unique crane]

class MyClass
{
public:
blah blah
private:
}

who tf invented this shit in c++

[grand flower]

it's pretty cool

[hearty shard]

im confused

[unique crane]

It absolutely is

[grand flower]

instead of placing the access specifiers on every member

[unique crane]

I just want to confuse eve

[grand flower]

you just tell the compiler that the next members are public/protected/private

[hearty shard]

david

[grand flower]

by using public:

[hearty shard]

i hate you

[hearty shard]

i see

[unique crane]

c++ developers reinventing the 5th way to do 1 thing

[hearty shard]

you can just add the modifier still right

[grand flower]

no

not valid syntax

[hearty shard]

you have to use that way?

[grand flower]

yep

[hearty shard]

okay...

thats gonna be a new thing to deal with when going to C++

ew..

[grand flower]

idk it's pretty cool

removes repetition

[hearty shard]

yes but also

im not used to it so its dumb and bad and i hate it

[grand flower]

also nice when I have macros for conditional access

[restive turret]

Just make everything public what would be disasterious

[grand flower]

you can if you want, your API's just gonna be shit

I only expose what I must

i love macros

[hearty shard]

what the fuck

[grand flower]

this makes my code public within my module, and protected for other modules

so any file in my module can access that code

[hearty shard]

so its

internal

[grand flower]

but files in another module (someone else's code) cannot

[hearty shard]

?

[grand flower]

yes

[restive turret]

Basically internal in c#

[grand flower]

p much

we don't have that in C++

[hearty shard]

...

[grand flower]

so we make do

[hearty shard]

what the fuck

[grand flower]

C++ devs make do

[restive turret]

I would send an article to you but that would be a not good link

[hearty shard]

WHAT

slime

im scared of you

[grand flower]

if I wanted to traumatize you I'd get into move semantics

[unique crane]

this is where we send eve btw

[hearty shard]

david...

teach me source gen

1 cent for it

[unique crane]

You surely know syntax trees

right

[hearty shard]

no

teach me everything

i totally didnt abstract it away

id never

ok but like

what the fuck

i hate my code

it needs like

serious improvements

but its also

source gen so like

what the hell

[unique crane]

No

I'm gonna go sleep

[restive turret]

Hey eve

reinterpret_cast<...> aka "trust me bro I know what I'm doing"

[hearty shard]

hi slime boy

can you

can you

teach me

[restive turret]

Teach you C++? I cant write one

[hearty shard]

i meant source gen

[restive turret]

I dont know how scr gen works

[hearty shard]

oh

can you learn it

[restive turret]

Despite writing 2

[hearty shard]

[restive turret]

Bro

Just use strings

[hearty shard]

you mean

what labapi does

[restive turret]

I use string builder and strings

[hearty shard]

i hate you

ur not doing it right clearly

[restive turret]

I dont give a shit about performance on generator

[hearty shard]

mines not for performance

[restive turret]

Make it work and if its good then update until good enough

[hearty shard]

namespace SecretAPI.Examples.Commands
{
    using System.CodeDom.Compiler;
    using System;
    using System.Linq;
    using System.Collections.Generic;
    using CommandSystem;
    using SecretAPI.Features.Commands;
    using SecretAPI.Features.Commands.Validators;

    [GeneratedCode("SecretAPI.CodeGeneration", "1.0.0")]
    partial class ExampleExplodeCommand
    {
        public override bool Execute(ArraySegment<string> arguments, ICommandSender sender, out string response)
        {
            if (arguments.Any())
            {
                if (CheckSubCommand(arguments.First(), out CustomCommand? subCommand))
                {
                    bool checkSubCommandResult = subCommand.Execute(arguments, sender, out response);
                    return checkSubCommandResult;
                }
            }

            CommandResult? result = null;
            {
            }
        }
    }
}

thats source gened btw

um

ignore the fact that yk

theres a block for 0 reason after result define

idk why

ok i found out why

anyway

um

[restive turret]

Have fun

https://github.com/ExtractIntoVoid/EIV_Pack/tree/master/EIV_Pack.Generator

[hearty shard]

im so confused

[restive turret]

Have fun

[hearty shard]

what is

any of this

WHY ARE YOU EVIL

[hearty shard]

am i cooked https://github.com/obvEve/SecretAPI/pull/68/changes

ok like

reading all this like

month or 3 or wtv later

what the fuck

is any of this

[mild ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208896293452386377/1319115068947959899/glup.gif

[grand flower]

you can do better than that /s

[hearty shard]

its not even slightly done

[violet basin]

Right fellas, afk plugin is there a good one as everyone ive seen is either outdated or dont work sometimes unless the NW built in afk system has magically become usable?

[hearty shard]

solution

get your own dev to make it

actually ur asking here so you prob dont have one

uh

yea ur cooked

[mild ice]

£6.99 I'll make a MARM clone

[hearty shard]

What

[icy knoll]

I've done like 50k add and 50k negative before

[grand flower]

doesn't that just mean you've moved stuff

[icy knoll]

nope

moved code if registered with git properly won't mark as negatives or additions

mine was hand written changes

removed outdated code and replaced with the new

[mild ice]

Meme SCP's AFK Plugin

[hearty shard]

oh

[violet basin]

i am my own dev i just cant be arsed lmao

would have asked in serverhost chat

a far few plugins for my server and freyas fortress were done by me

https://tenor.com/view/svensk-swedish-gif-24765846

[spring plank]

hey does anybody know where i can turn visual warns in ced mod

like it will appear to a player that he was warned

[static meteor]

afaik you cant

[grand flower]

minor deletions (wiped half the codebase)

[grand flower]

also this is a draft PR at my work that I havent finished heh

probs gonna be a few thousand more additions

[tired pecan]

Errm, what

Player from endpoint ||blah blah bleh|| failed to preauthenticate: Method not found: void LiteNetLib.Utils.NetDataWriter.Put(string)

[mild ice]

Update Cedmod if you have it

[tired pecan]

What the hell, is this normal?

If so this is awesome

[unique crane]

?

[rugged laurel]

😅

[celest thorn]

ObjectiveCompletedBaseEventArgs which on are the tickets i forgot how they were named in the code tbh

always called them tickets

[upper vapor]

struct doesn't "allocate" memory unless you store it in a class

imagine if you had to garbage collect every Vector3 ever created

[upper vapor]

r/ihadastroke

sentence

[celest thorn]

ObjectiveCompletedBaseEventArgs

should give you the tickets?

because those are the thing to allow to spawn

what is the name of the tickets in Code?

[upper vapor]

there are no tickets

they are tokens

[celest thorn]

wdym

[upper vapor]

there's tokens and influence

tokens = how many respawns

influence required to get more tokens

[celest thorn]

can i calculate how many tokens a player has done with their influence?

[upper vapor]

well uh

idk how you would do that

[celest thorn]

crazy

[upper vapor]

cuz it's a team game

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[upper vapor]

bruh

the team

gains influence

not a player

😭

[celest thorn]

The player tho completes the objective

[upper vapor]

SL is a team-based game, as crazy as it sounds

[upper vapor]

yes

[celest thorn]

bro im like so cooked and i need to do a commission

so im trying to understand this system

myself

[upper vapor]

player completes objective

=

team gets influence

it's that shrimple

[celest thorn]

ok but there's ANY place where in the server is seen the tickets?

from there i can search where it gets set

RespawnTokens

amazing

[unique crane]

Uh yea count it in a dictionary

[celest thorn]

i saw

[unique crane]

There are milestones for each token

[celest thorn]

im checking with the dude because tbh

i think he didn't realize this system how it was

[vast canopy]

There are any core breaking changes in 14.2.6? I was sleeping for a while and just woke up and got this in dms

and some kinda limbo stuff when every player on the server cant do anything with everything

[upper vapor]

i hate no clue what's going on here

[vast canopy]

hate

[upper vapor]

have

[vast canopy]

why u hate me

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/381

[vast canopy]

oh

[cosmic oyster]

Where should I report a bug? I found something that seems to be a bug

[sweet flax]

Labapis github repo and open a issue

[icy knoll]

make sure u check ur not making a duplicate

or we will just close it

[hearty shard]

!bugreport

ok

thats not a command apparently

!bug

@mild ice pls fix

[restive turret]

#bug-reporting

[hearty shard]

[foggy stirrup]

is there an eta of pushing a fix for it? some servers heavily rely on custom maps outside bounds

[restive turret]

There is a fix for it already, don't know when.

[foggy stirrup]

aight

[hearty shard]

guh

[spring plank]

Hey does anybody know a good plugin for custom items ?

[zinc rampart]

🙏

[untold raft]

https://github.com/UncomplicatedCustomServer/UncomplicatedCustomItems/releases

[hearty shard]

guh

[restive turret]

where your custom items

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[celest thorn]

pov make your own

its fun learning :3

[frail zinc]

heyy, anyone have a patch for the IsInDarkenedRoom issue (when a player isnt in a room) ?

nvm, I've patched TryGetRoom by setting a default room value, seems to work

waiting for the nw patch 🥲

[icy knoll]

just make a wrapper for getting a player room temporarily that is a try catch block for NullReferenceExceptiom

[mild ice]

Just link to the channel

[hearty shard]

but

[celest thorn]

yo wassup chat how do we remove bad decision taken by nw called guns makes you slower because why not

[hearty shard]

labapi

[upper vapor]

movementboost

[celest thorn]

how tf do i calculate the counter

[upper vapor]

look at the modules

but yeah

not the easiest to work around, though it's not a hard cap unlike the micro

[celest thorn]

pov just don't make bad changes

[upper vapor]

tell that to those who added this

[celest thorn]

at gd

[unique crane]

My stupid ass laptop stand exploded

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329072632745824257/1487406073743937606/IMG_20260328_115321.jpg?ex=69c9065a&is=69c7b4da&hm=ad85e51915146be7ea7eb73d1f83b4941d1b75716d4eab970d331b019bb34187&

[celest thorn]

Oh

[unique crane]

Plastic broke and the inner spring jumped out 😭

[upper vapor]

well yeah, it's not summer

[unique crane]

why tf do they have to create these form plastic

make it metal 😭

[upper vapor]

then it would cost 100000x more

[unique crane]

I would pay 3x more if it gonna last 10 more years

[restive turret]

*2

[vagrant nebula]

i fucking hate this

every "fix" update breaks everything and this time is schematics

[restive turret]

Sorry for not having 500 million schematics in normal playtru

[vagrant nebula]

you replaced rare bugs with common ones now

its not just schematics

theres just problems with the void now

[restive turret]

Fix is on the way anyway

[vagrant nebula]

that makes them broken

[vagrant nebula]

yay

[restive turret]

I couldnt catch it early cus I was waiting for release day too to update my stuff

[icy knoll]

silly slejm

100 QA tests but no tests smh

/j

[grand flower]

Can't be an SL update without things breaking

Else it's not NW anymore

[spring swan]

True, we will know it isn't NW if nothing breaks in an update

like they could've been taken over by skinwalkers

[cyan crown]

rebuilding scpsl in source 2

soon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990666531954389036/1482105869327011850/togif.gif

[unique crane]

S&Box

[cyan crown]

either s&box or i'll wait for HL3 multiplayer sdk

i'm joking i don't think i have the time to rebuild a very system heavy game same as SL in source 2.

[unique crane]

I mean

Probably wont be that hard to at least import models

and rooms

[worn gull]

Rebuild SL in Unreal Engine

[grand flower]

Already on that

Won't be 1:1 SL although I want a Breach gamemode, which will be just like SL

Modders will be able to make whatever gamemode they want

[cyan crown]

i couldn't figure that out yet

but i'll do soon

scale is also fucked up i did manage to import HCZ pipe room to S&box but i couldn't figure out the materials back then now maybe i can get a room done

[hearty shard]

The what

Can we scale eves bank account

i need more money

[soft depot]

money = float.PositiveInfinity

Done ✅

[grand flower]

Using floats for money

💀

[soft depot]

There was an implicit cast to whatever COBOL uses for numbers

[umbral zephyr]

The only thing cobol is ever useful for

[carmine prawn]

💀

StatusEffectBase.ServerChangeDuration doesn’t have labapi event

[restive turret]

We know

[carmine prawn]

💀

[carmine prawn]

Do I need to raise it in labapi's issues?

[restive turret]

Nope its already there as a bug report or something

[carmine prawn]

oh, i see it

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/176

Jun 12, 2025

[upper vapor]

Try to fix both bugs at the same time challenge (impossible)

[frail zinc]

👀

[wary gust]

Is the ev.Player under the OnLeft event intentionally null sometimes?

[frail zinc]

yeah

there's no OnLeaving event

:/

btw, did someone patch the TryRaycastRoom method because of the NW skill issue ?

[restive turret]

client sided too, patch is on the way

[frail zinc]

🙏

[royal mica]

IIRC it is when they leave before fully auth

[spring plank]

Hello does anybody know any good plugin for custom roles? Example you have 30% chance to spawn as capitan but with diffrent loadout

[true arch]

UCR or making your own

[restive turret]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1338881801040429068
or UCR (https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1410364464301342811)

[true arch]

i forget about simple custom roles

[restive turret]

cus its not simple

complicated af

[true arch]

holy fraud

[restive turret]

[true arch]

i never tried to use it because i hate yml

[restive turret]

well

role wrapper will save my ass for patching stuff and will update SCR to be support yaml + c# stuff

[true arch]

👍

[restive turret]

but ye ucr is great to or i heard

[true arch]

it's good

very customizable

[upper vapor]

uncomplicated is very complicated
simple is very unsimple

[restive turret]

[upper vapor]

nothing is true in this world

[true arch]

its not THAT complicated

[upper vapor]

ye but like

why do i have to implement 10 properties in an interface

[restive turret]

I should name the rewrite to be "HardRoles"

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

your custom roles is more complicated than both of them

[soft depot]

I did in fact patch that (for EXILED )

[true arch]

i mean YEAH you have to put 400 things for the role to actually be there but

it works 😁

[soft depot]

shouldn't be, are you struggling with making footprints in OnLeft?

[spring plank]

where i can find ucr

[upper vapor]

#1336031121699377213

https://plugins.scpslgame.com

[upper vapor]

yeah but i don't have to implement a billion interface properties

[true arch]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1410364464301342811

[hearty shard]

HAHAHAHAHAA

[icy knoll]

what u laughing about

[hearty shard]

everything

@soft depot come back

[frail zinc]

I saw it but didnt work very well, my patch was better and simpler.
I mean serverside, its fine, but clientside, there's full error in the console (with your patch its like 10000 exceptions per second, with mine its like 100 exceptions per second), and because there's a lot of errors per second, the client crash (no inventory, no esc menu, etc)

[soft depot]

I hate to break it to you, but you cant patch the client, I made TryRaycastRoom work server side, but we're gonna have to wait for a client side fix

[frail zinc]

Yep i know

But your patch is very complicated for nothing

[soft depot]

I mean, the patch wont patch once the method gets fixed, that was part of the "complication"

I also used ListPools because that's standard for Exiled (helps the C# garbage collector)

anyways, what's your patch?

[upper vapor]

Yes it does basically nothing

[soft depot]

do you have some sort of source at least proving that?

[hearty shard]

😭

someone

[soft depot]

because inuitively it would make sense that not having 100 list heap allocations when the server starts would probably help with performance

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper vapor]

The keyword is starts

It has basically no impact on runtime performance

Makes the code uglier and also generates a state machine

You're still allocating an enumerator

[soft depot]

it's still more performant than CodeMatcher at minimum, and I personally do care about the startup performance

[upper vapor]

Okay

Is startup 10ms faster with a listpool?

Or what's the difference

(Compared to doing the same thing with ToList)

Cuz compared to code matcher I get it

[soft depot]

dont know, Yamato tried testing it but the startup times for Exiled.Events were highly variable

[upper vapor]

Exactly, you can't really measure impact

So why bother with extra steps

[soft depot]

because the performance over a long time might be better? That's my reason at least

[icy knoll]

I never understood listpool in transpilers lol, codematcher is so much easier to read for the same performance

[upper vapor]

Um

I don't get it

[soft depot]

like, it might not be obvious if listpool helps, but it likely does, and that's enough for me

[upper vapor]

But it helps... nothing

[soft depot]

so like what, you want me to go do the test yamato did like 100 times, then compare performance statistically just to say that listpools probably help like 1-5% on average 😭

[hearty shard]

also opinions @icy knoll #1339704289291141130 message

[upper vapor]

I guess

But how are you gonna measure that

Accurately

[soft depot]

stopwatch + statistics

easy

[upper vapor]

That doesn't count GC time

[soft depot]

just really time consuming to set up

[restive turret]

lumi on LoA

[icy knoll]

didn't know what to say

[hearty shard]

ok but shes in chat

[soft depot]

well I guess we can log what's in the GC before and after right?

[icy knoll]

getting on my flight v soon

[soft depot]

isnt there a static class and stuff for all that?

[upper vapor]

When though

I don't think .NET lets you inspect GC events

You could do that with a profiler

[restive turret]

I use .ToList and dont care about it since its only 1 time

[upper vapor]

Yes

[restive turret]

use FrozenList

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202817073412055144/1484281015915647066/attachment.gif

[soft depot]

fair enough then

[upper vapor]

Wait until you get the development build

(Probably not happening in the near future sadly)
(Maybe not even in the far future)

[nova cosmos]

Can I get the server rank for someone who isnt online using their userid?

havent really found how that gets populated on online players so not sure where that info comes from atm

[forest sentinel]

maybe GC.CollectionCount but idk

or GC.GetTotalMemory if its work

count can be work

[upper vapor]

That's not an event

[forest sentinel]

oh yeah

[soft turtle]

Who knows what this means?

No handler is registered for encrypted channel RemoteAdmin (client).```
I call commands like this so that they can be called through Discord
```cs
Server.RunCommand($"/{commandRequest.Command}", Server.Host.ReferenceHub.queryProcessor._sender);

[thin shuttle]

i did on Exiled

[soft depot]

try GameCore.Console.Singleton.TypeCommand

it's what Exiled uses

[tulip kiln]

Not purely plugin related but does anyone have a link to a docker image and an egg for SL

First time using pterodactyl since I'm trying something out

[slow grotto]

I don't think I've seen a recent one when I've looked for them. Most are 2+ years old. This looks to be the most "official" one, but I cannot guarantee anything https://github.com/pterodactyl/game-eggs/tree/main/scpsl

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/EsserGaming/scpsl-egg

[tulip kiln]

Thank y'all

[spring plank]

Hello I've got a question about UCR. When creating new custom role do i create next file or just write down everything in one

[pulsar locust]

because of how janky scpdiscord is, when I had to run it I ended up making a .net 8 docker image with supervisord to have a single container with a service manager running all the bots
To not have 20 separate containers with scpdiscord and to allow restarting the bots without the whole server

[lucid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/kenjaku-brain-geto-suguru-jjk-gif-13395973890702504491

I mean it'd be nice to return the builder to the pool but it's not even stored or used...

[unique crane]

Welp, I guess it got overlooked

World isn't gonna implode

[hearty shard]

wow

massive bug

cant believe NW didnt QA test this

how do they overlook such an easy to see bug!!!?!?!?!?

literally ruining my game

im crying cuz of it

[carmine prawn]

[lucid oxide]

well instantiating and keeping a stringbuilder every second of anyone looking into that RA section isn't great

[hearty shard]

ok but like

report it on github instead of implying NW is brainless for it 😭

it GENUINELY

is not that big a deal

[lucid oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247947694895398932/1486709563146375199/9b4f7dc5-7f37-4bde-8a9d-c96a15c64aa5.gif

[hearty shard]

also

isnt that client side anyway

so itd only be every second for one player

maybe not idk if its client side

but like

bigger problems in that world than a stringbuilder not being returned to pool

[lucid oxide]

nah, it's serverside

[hearty shard]

i also cant see where that is cuz RaWaveDisplay is empty other than a Text field

ok then give the class

😭

[lucid oxide]

so if you don't restart a server once in a while, you get a memory leak

[restive turret]

No shit

[hearty shard]

no?

[restive turret]

Windows have memory leaks too

[lucid oxide]

RemoteAdmin.Communication.RaTeamStatus

[hearty shard]

StringBuilder isnt permanent 😭

ok it rents it but its never used anyway

so yes it instaniates a stringbuilder, but its also

disposed of because its not a permanent object

[lucid oxide]

isn't pool's purpose to prevent these GC collections?

[hearty shard]

it would be if it was in the pool

cuz then the object is still around

but like

you get the pool

and then its never used

so why would dotnet be like "mmm yes lets keep it"

but yes they should remove the line because its worse for performance

[lucid oxide]

GatherData gradually takes everything that was in the pool and continues creating instances further, which will have to be collected by gc

[hearty shard]

not because of memory, but because itll remove a pooled object for no reason, meaning it has to instaniate a new one eventually for the pool

but

i dont think a memory leak would occur anyway

[lucid oxide]

yeah, I was wrong with that memory leak wording

rather defeating the value of the pool in the first place

[restive turret]

Not like you have bigger problem than just calling renting for no reason tbh

Also not like you made mistakes while you coding

[restive turret]

But yes this renting isnt needed

[lucid oxide]

I do make mistakes but they don't affect others and it doesn't take me weeks or months to get a fix out

hinting about TryRaycastRoom clientside bug btw 👀

[hearty shard]

yea they dont affect others cuz u dont do stuff for others 😭

SL is a public free game ofc issues will affect people 😭

make a game and make it without a single bug

[lucid oxide]

That's why SL has QA 🫣

[restive turret]

Fix already made, and as I said dont know when will be released

[hearty shard]

ok but like

QA isnt expected to have servers

[restive turret]

Ah yes QA have MER with trillions of rooms in void and exiled too just for the funs

[hearty shard]

where they can test every issue in every environment

[unique crane]

Although such thing was caused by pure oversight, it is not causing any major issue.
There is absolutely no need to go wild over it

Feel free to report it, I'll remove it

[restive turret]

I will add it back calling every frame

[hearty shard]

i like how QA is expected to test every single scenario in the world

[restive turret]

Renting 2048 * 2048 length of string

[hearty shard]

like thats what players do by accident 😭

[restive turret]

I also like how most of reports now are just purely visual bugs that normal gameplay you aint see or you just look over it

[lucid oxide]

I would agree if hotfixes were released regularly

[hearty shard]

then become QA and test every single possibility of a change

i mean EVERY possibility

[lucid oxide]

Do they accept into the team?

[hearty shard]

i believe so

[unique crane]

Public QA apps haven't been opened for like

Never

[hearty shard]

damn

[lucid oxide]

😢

[restive turret]

QA apps where opened internally wehn there was api maintainer pos

[unique crane]

Usually internal apps

More common

Hopping between positions isn't rare

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/spittin-bars-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-bunny-spittin-bars-gif-9157936881030366542

[balmy bay]

Start reporting bugs

!qa

[regal lake]

https://discord.gg/2vgntcMd2s

[tulip kiln]

Is the fix approved or is it waiting for QA to pick it up?

[restive turret]

approved

[upper vapor]

waiting for the release to be approved

[spring plank]

Hello I've got a question about UCR. When creating new custom role do i create next file or just write down everything in one

[static meteor]

New file

https://docs.ucr.ucserver.it/custom-roles/first-steps

[grand flower]

What does UCR use for its doc website

been looking for a good one to use for my modding framework

[static meteor]

Gitbook

[grand flower]

ty

[upper vapor]

github wikis

[spring plank]

thx

[grand flower]

Just need something that's gonna be good enough

I'll probably hire a web dev to make a custom one in the future anyway

[upper vapor]

oh right, your project is not open source

yeah i'd also suggest gitbook then

[grand flower]

aight

the gamemodes will be open source

I think i'm gonna try to go for a more modern version of this https://gmodwiki.com/

[unique crane]

I feel like you can just find some open source self hosting option on github

there is like billion of them

[grand flower]

Most of the ones I've seen so far don't really fit what I'm going for

They're good for explanations but not really documenting a modding API

Functions and all

[unique crane]

so something like c++ reference?

[grand flower]

The modding API is gonna be Luau

[unique crane]

I mean in style of

[grand flower]

Got an example?

oh the cpp reference website

[unique crane]

ye

[grand flower]

Ehhh a lot more modern

the gmod wiki is a good base for what i'm going for

or even the roblox api docs, they're pretty cool

Especially since I'll have APIs that are either clientside, serverside, or both

Modders will need to be able to see that pretty easily

[restive turret]

prefix

[grand flower]

Mayhaps

But having prefixes on every function sounds annoying

[restive turret]

tbh you prob could a self-made api docs , like exposting into correct format

[grand flower]

Not much of a web dev, especially frontend

I can do backend but that's about it heh

[restive turret]

i was gonna say attributes but idk if you can even use that

[restive turret]

in C# i mostly seen this kind of API docs:

[grand flower]

I think I'll have to write the docs manually with how I expose functions

[restive turret]

https://harmony.pardeike.net/api/HarmonyLib.Code.html

[grand flower]

There's no reflection, it's all hand written

Yeah I've seen these but it needs to be a little more friendly

Those are mostly autogenerated it seems

[restive turret]

yup

API stuff usually auto generated and actual docs are hand written

[grand flower]

I'll probably handwrite the API

But I do want some collaboration on articles, just like the gmod wiki

Eh cross that bridge when I get there, not anytime soon

For the prototype and the modders that are waiting to have a go I'll just use some very simple docs

I'll also have to export the data that's needed by the LSP for autocompletion in VSCode heh

[teal junco]

I read about CSGO/CS2's gamestate integration, and I find it very interesting. Ofc this will never happen but it seems to be a secure way to add client side modding to games generally designed to be unmoddable

Basically it sets up a local server and your CS client sends messages to the local server when stuff happens, like getting a kill or your HP being updated

[restive turret]

I never used such a thing tbh

[teal junco]

external apps can basically subscribe to events using this

[restive turret]

i know map scripting exist but thats all I know

[teal junco]

gamestate integration isnt exactly client side modding but it opens up the possibility for some client features

[restive turret]

like?

[teal junco]

it's what Medal uses to detect when you get a kill, die, or get an assist

and other apps use it to create a custom soundtrack

because it exposes info about the bomb, the round, your health, etc

[restive turret]

thats wierd

even from cs

like i get creating soundtrack but not for private use only

[grand flower]

Tbh there's nothing dangerous about clientside modding if you sandbox it properly

[teal junco]

Its a niche feature

[grand flower]

Luau removes the dangerous OS libs

[restive turret]

me when i not sandbox stuff

[teal junco]

and this type of modding is less "modding" but more just letting apps listen to events on the client side

[grand flower]

yeah

still cool

[upper vapor]

no playground for the kids

[restive turret]

i dont think you can even in C# other than do what S&Box did

[teal junco]

and I think gamestate integration-like system for SL would be nice

[grand flower]

Yeah I wanted to go with C# originally buuuuut it's a pain in the ass

Luau integrates easily and I don't have to worry about clientside scripts as long as I don't expose stuff I shouldn't

[restive turret]

literally whitelist / blacklisting certain namespace or using assemblies

[grand flower]

Mods will be able to read/write files but to a virtual filesystem, so I'll have complete control over which paths they have access to

[teal junco]

Of course it is a lot of work and its probably not gonna be added

[upper vapor]

disable implicit frameowrk references
give your own libs
boom
-#

[grand flower]

Remake C#

C#n't

[upper vapor]

exactly

[grand flower]

CBlind

[upper vapor]

C♭

[grand flower]

I'm even giving mods access to HTTP requests

But requests can't be to localhost by default, or any private network really

[teal junco]

wdym

And wdym its weird even for cs

[restive turret]

make sure http requests are mandatory SSL connection too

[upper vapor]

modifying my router to route 1.2.3.4 back to 192.168.0.100

[grand flower]

Won't work because it'll resolve the host first :p

[upper vapor]

huh

[grand flower]

even then if you manage to do that, you probably know what you're doing (and there will be a launch argument to allow local http requests, but you'll be met with a nice popup on game launch that cannot be skipped)

[restive turret]

I meant i get the others but not the soundtrack

[grand flower]

before doing the request it'll take whatever host you give it and resolve it, via dns

[upper vapor]

okay okay, smart

[teal junco]

wrong one

[grand flower]

gmod doesn't allow clients to do local requests period, the sole dev on it refuses to allow that even with a launch argument and a popup

[upper vapor]

so do you block IP input, and allow hostnames only?

[teal junco]

https://github.com/zzhabib/CS-Jukebox

[teal junco]

its for music kits

[restive turret]

what if when you send the request it accepts as real dns but internally resolved as local

[grand flower]

p sure ip inputs are fine, I can just do the local network checks on that without resolving

[grand flower]

wdym

[vast canopy]

Gmod mentioned

[restive turret]

I clicked what the csgo state integration was and jumpscared by anime girl

[upper vapor]

what

[grand flower]

It resolves your hostname to the destination IP, idk how you'd deceive that lol

[restive turret]

hooking to sendto or curl send or winhttp send

[grand flower]

That'd be outside of the game right?

[restive turret]

btw this seems good

[restive turret]

ye? i think so

[grand flower]

Not my problem then, either you're trying to bypass the limitation when there's a launch arg (lol why?) or your PC is already compromised and you can't blame me for that

[restive turret]

fair

what if i compromised myself

[teal junco]

Yea, i was surprised CS had that level of modding allowed

[grand flower]

not my problem still im not gonna prevent some good modding because of "muh security" when it doesn't make sense

[teal junco]

I think that a basic way to read game state info from the client externally should be in all games, instead of trying to read memory with cheating software

it makes peripherals easier to make as well without needing to mod the game

and like i linked earlier, sound tracks

[restive turret]

tbh looks good but idk if will ever be done, or idk.
Feel free to propose something similar in labapi i guess? i dont promise anything

[restive turret]

what does soundtrack do?
tracks sound

[teal junco]

Are lab api maintainers allowed to modify client?

[teal junco]

Dynamic music

:D

[restive turret]

we have full source access

obv everything has be to approved

[mild ice]

Real programmers commit directly to master

[restive turret]

protected branch :(

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/or-is-it-or-is-it-vsauce-gif-4788975584654463197

[mild ice]

That's what Big Branch Protection wants you to believe

[upper vapor]

the BBP?

+15 commit credit

[unique crane]

This obviously implies that only programming leads are the real programmers

[harsh thorn]

imagine not having push to master perms

[restive turret]

@tulip kiln @static meteor update is here

[tulip kiln]

Yeah I saw

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202817073412055144/1484281015915647066/attachment.gif

I saw

[restive turret]

saw these 018's

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

[spring plank]

Does anybody know how i can turn off the setting for custom nickname and custom badge. Just write down nothing?

[unique crane]

Uhhh there are some sync flags you can set via code

[spring plank]

explain more

[unique crane]

Or wait what is thsr

That's not base game

Isn't it

[restive turret]

No

It's UCR

[hearty shard]

Ask UCR

This is a dev chat

[spring plank]

aklr

[hearty shard]

OMG SLIME BOY

[restive turret]

Hi

[grand flower]

Btw @restive turret I checked and gmod allows direct ips for http requests

figured since I don't see the issue with that tbh

[restive turret]

Is it https or just http

[grand flower]

i can try http sec

i tried https

http works

[restive turret]

Lol

[grand flower]

doubt it's a problem, it'd be dumb for mods to use it over https but not necessarily detrimental to the player

[median sage]

what keycode system does SL use

bc unity names arent working

[sharp hedge]

just do 9

assuming this is used for cmdbind

[median sage]

yeah

but i also was trying to do it for numpad9

which is Keypad9

i tried Alpha9 as an alternative.

[median sage]

9 did Tab for some reason

[sharp hedge]

try 10

then 11

just kidding hold on

[median sage]

WHY THE FUCK DID THAT WORK

NORTHWOOD

EXPLAIN

[sharp hedge]

wait is 10 the 9 number key

[median sage]

no

i typed "cmdbind 10 .overwatch"

and it worked

for keybind 10 which doenst exist

[sharp hedge]

its 57

there was a github thing with all of the values

None = 0,
Backspace = 8,
Tab = 9,
Clear = 12, // 0x0000000C
Return = 13, // 0x0000000D

...

Alpha5 = 53, // 0x00000035
Alpha6 = 54, // 0x00000036
Alpha7 = 55, // 0x00000037
Alpha8 = 56, // 0x00000038
Alpha9 = 57, // 0x00000039
Colon = 58, // 0x0000003A

...

[median sage]

ah thank you

[upper vapor]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/KeyCode.html

[median sage]

i already knew... just didnt know we were counting as numbers, i was thinking the physical keycode

[upper vapor]

count them

oh does the command not accept string values?

i'm pretty sure it does

[pulsar locust]

Last I tried it did not lol

Tried all variations of Insert when cmdbinding even from the keycode docs and no luck

Ended up relying on the github gist

[upper vapor]

Womp

[unique crane]

I dont recommend using cmdbindings anymore

First of all we have Server Specific Settings now

And second, cmdbindings is obsolete and may be removed in future

[upper vapor]

Well you still need it for base game commands
So for that we would need a macro system of some sort

[pulsar locust]

A zombie dcer's favourite tool

[upper vapor]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2026/03/30/rider-2026-1-released/#integrated-profiling-for-unity

🔥

[unique crane]

Dont worry Ax

[upper vapor]

-# companies try not to push ai everywhere challenge

[unique crane]

Rider has enough AI shit to feed you for entire life

[upper vapor]

It's called

Disable inline completion

[unique crane]

for VS its called

Uninstall copilot

[upper vapor]

Really

[unique crane]

you can do it yea

[upper vapor]

And that just works?

[unique crane]

Yea!

It removed copilot

[upper vapor]

Crazy move from microfost

[unique crane]

and half gigabyte of space

[upper vapor]

Gahdayum

[pulsar locust]

it bundles an entire version of nodejs lol

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202817073412055144/1484281015915647066/attachment.gif

[unique crane]

😭

[upper vapor]

Did you even click the link

[unique crane]

"Rider 2026.1: More AI Choice"

I dont need to

[restive turret]

ye it went to CMake support

obv thats what needed

[upper vapor]

That's not the section I linked

[modern lark]

Next 2.2027 world update :
AI Integrated Humans ! AI You can talk to !

[unique crane]

Oh

Well I guess integrated unity profiler is good

[upper vapor]

Drake laptop

[restive turret]

ye the cmake supprot is good too

[upper vapor]

I need to disable embeds cuz ppl just check the embed and give up

[restive turret]

i already given up what you sending me

[upper vapor]

I don't see

[restive turret]

make it to C

[upper vapor]

I'm not even sending you anything in particular 😭

[restive turret]

i know

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-what-is-happening-sam-neill-remove-sunglasses-gif-15770358

[worn gull]

Is it possible somehow to make a ConnectQueue plugin after the preauth update?

[upper vapor]

ConcurrentQueue

[hearty shard]

you just cant do unity things on that thread

but like

MainThreadDispatcher

[unique crane]

You can do that without main thread

just delay the connection

or use another server as the queue

[worn gull]

Just to clarify I can't use broadcast and hints on that player etc

[upper vapor]

yeah, you shouldn't

but as eve said

MainThreadDispatcher

wait

what player are you talking about

at preauth time

[worn gull]

Like

I'm joining the server

It's full

The plugin freeze me at preauth

And while I'm there

Can I display hints for myself

I hope you got it xd

[upper vapor]

this may be a stupid question but isn't preauth in the loading screen?

[worn gull]

No

It's black screen

Or no?

I used #1399842165974372394 but I want to make my own

And idk after update is it possible

[upper vapor]

well if you have a player instance

then MainThreadDispatcher.Dispatch

[worn gull]

Alr thanks

[upper vapor]

np

[worn gull]

I will give it a try xd

[unique crane]

No

Preauth is loading screen

[carmine prawn]

💀

How should I use the AHP system correctly?

[restive turret]

AddAHPProcessor to the stats

or something

[carmine prawn]

It seems to conflict with **AntiSCP207 **effect

[restive turret]

huh

[carmine prawn]

when a player uses CreateAhpProcess, anti207 effect prevents the player's shield from being consumed

like godmode

[restive turret]

lol that might be the same issue we getting @warped prairie

[carmine prawn]

💀

[restive turret]

tho i have custom items adding more AHP Processes when they shoot someone

[warped prairie]

epic

how do we even fix that lol

[carmine prawn]

so, hOw CaN I fiX iT

[restive turret]

idunno

[carmine prawn]

oh no

[carmine prawn]

Has this bug already been documented? Or should I submit an issue?

[restive turret]

idk

[unique crane]

Wdym?

[carmine prawn]

After CreateAhpProcess grants an AHP to a player, if the player has the Anti207 effect, the player's AHP will not be consumed, but will still reduce damage

My test code

[pallid galleon]

Is damage resist from multiple effects additive or multiplicative? I.e. AHP + Damage Resistance Effect + Heavy Armor

[upper vapor]

multiplicative

[upper vapor]

mods

[thin shuttle]

@thorn escarp ^ mister beats

[upper vapor]

mister beats who

[thin shuttle]

Mister beats suggest me to win 2500 dollar for free

must be true

[unique crane]

You just keep missing the opportunity

[thin shuttle]

so fucking sad

they get auto deleted by gov so fast

they don't want us to know the truth

[sinful bronze]

it's true

[tulip kiln]

The first time this feature blocked an actual spammer

[grand flower]

Are we getting clientside modding for april fools

[snow pulsar]

Even better... an actual april fools update

[grand flower]

Hmmm

Why did I lose levels

[mild ice]

Leveling system change, if you have any feedback please put it in #1488714816897024051!

[grand flower]

Ah

No biggie, was just curious

[upper vapor]

back to anomaly

[carmine prawn]

level30

[upper vapor]

you have been contained

[carmine prawn]

and any help? https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/382

[sharp hedge]

how would i go by tracking stats per player? i want to make my own XP system, and im not sure how i can do so

[restive turret]

Your need a database and subscribe to events you want to give xp

[sharp hedge]

i will look into that

[restive turret]

And make sure you dont process anything if the player is dnt

[spare zodiac]

f

[boreal snow]

hehehe if yall update (if you use my plugin), good luck.

[upper vapor]

So you're not a fool today?

[restive turret]

Do you see any exception

[upper vapor]

Haven't caught one in this block yet

[modern lark]

I saw no exception

[unique crane]

Oh just errors

Okay thats fine then

[modern lark]

Everything's really fine

[frail zinc]

wtf ?

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/378

but it should be fixed now

[unique crane]

Have you updated your server

[frail zinc]

Yeah that's why i'm confused

[frail zinc]

I think @modern lark did, but i'm not sure, you're probably right, i didnt think of that, thanks 🙏

[tulip kiln]

You can use buildinfo to check

it should say that it was built on 28th of March

[carmine prawn]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/383
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/215
still not fixed

[spring plank]

does anyone know this plugin? Its like the summary of the all statistic thru the round

[strong lagoon]

Hey so i recently had an idea for a plugin but im not sure if it’s even possible. The main idea is to implement sphere walking into sl

[vast canopy]

@celest thorn for 1st april I made mini-plugin which transform players into rats