plugins-dev-chat

[restive turret]

But

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/tokyvtbs.png

btw this are ALL problems on sl

btw

and this can fix them

[harsh thorn]

that post is misleading

it will not prevent wallhack

it is a distance check

you need to do the raycasting yourself

[celest thorn]

Distance

is one of them

you can create your own

[harsh thorn]

we already have that?

[celest thorn]

🤦‍♀️

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/9aknkpar.png

crazy

enable

[upper vapor]

XD

[harsh thorn]

like, you say it prevents players from seeing through walls
but it doesnt
its a distance check

if im on one side and someone else is on the other, they can still see

[celest thorn]

bro whats so hard to understand

you can

like make your own?

and distance check isn't the only one

[harsh thorn]

again, why is this mirror thing so better than fpcdistributor

oh wait, it isnt

their the SAME

could be applied to other things, sure, but thats not what im talking about
you'd need a separate validator for players and for objects anyway

cuz saying "it prevents cheating" is not exactly truthful
it doesnt, its a distance check
the only thing it does is prevent long ranged wallhacks

you still need to write your own system for raycasting, and such to actually prevent wallhack
mirror doesnt solve that, so why is it so better than fpcpositiondistributor when itd end up doing the exact same thing

and the question would is the interest management even more performance friendly than fpcpositiondistributor

[celest thorn]

items example

i can see them across facility

an item on surface

as a cheater

[harsh thorn]

i was talking about players

not items

[celest thorn]

items is an example

[harsh thorn]

hell, the only reason items work is because a similair script to fpcpositiondistrutor just sends the position all the time

[celest thorn]

but what if

we remove that

in favor of

Interest manager

[harsh thorn]

what if i added an if check to that script instead of relying on mirror

[celest thorn]

and then DO THAT

its ages

that has been a problem

why its on cedmod BUT NOT in base game

[harsh thorn]

tbf, the item ESP range is the same range as room culling

[harsh thorn]

its not

[harsh thorn]

so it wont solve it

cuz they can still see whats in the room next to them

or behind a door

[celest thorn]

a room is less problematic

than a fucking across facility

[harsh thorn]

the cheat stops rendering items after like 3 rooms

same for players (from server perspective)

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/a0vnnnoe.png

example

why its so distant and he can see that

[harsh thorn]

its 24 meters

thats less than the player max distance

[unique crane]

Position distribution is to ~fog range

[restive turret]

https://github.com/MirrorNetworking/Mirror/blob/ec3f84d34fcc1a2ea605166578abd47b92aadd56/Assets/Mirror/Core/NetworkBehaviour.cs#L478

When sending Rpc (and I think synvars but will check that too) it only send to observers

If you not an observer you not get the rpc

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/y3b06px7.png

here

he can see them 200m

[harsh thorn]

but does it resync it when in range

cuz that can be a problem

[upper vapor]

but everybody is an observer...

[restive turret]

as again IF you write your own interest manager

Because currently everyone receive it

[celest thorn]

you can resync them

[restive turret]

Ye you can

You can even make that thing rebuild X per frame

As similarly how you do the distrib

The distance just show what you can do

Not necessarily said you must do thst

[harsh thorn]

does it hide the object when not an observer though (when going from visible to not visible)

cuz thatd be funny if not

[restive turret]

Ye it does

[harsh thorn]

the problem with players is though, you want SOME rpcs to always occur, some RPCs only when visible

and everything is on the main object iirc

[restive turret]

https://github.com/MirrorNetworking/Mirror/blob/ec3f84d34fcc1a2ea605166578abd47b92aadd56/Assets/Mirror/Core/InterestManagementBase.cs#L45

[grand flower]

then don't update?

like i don't see the problem

[harsh thorn]

thats all cool and all, until mirror breaks on unity update, or has some exploit

[worn gull]

Hi! Is it possible for a human to speak with SCPs and hear them

[restive turret]

Unity already breaks script when updating anyway

New alpha removes like most of the stuff on scripts too

(like go.renderer and this stuff)

[upper vapor]

FINALLY

omg

[restive turret]

Since mirror states in their license the code and thing provided as is , it can break any day

[upper vapor]

real

[restive turret]

Like SL or any software really

[celest thorn]

im done

im gonna make SL 2

[restive turret]

Hi done

[celest thorn]

no breaking changes

[restive turret]

Lmao

[restive turret]

The first thing will be breaking change i assume

Anyway I have to cook so

Also discord singlehandedly killing my phone

Every second -3%

[upper vapor]

[harsh thorn]

so in theory they might work, but you'd need to basically reimplement the all logic into into a interest manager however
some parts of item syncing have multiple systems to it, its not 1 syncronizer, theres some more to it for whatever reason that has

for players you only want to hide the position
interest managers would hide everything, including RPCs and syncvars
these you would want to have synced at all times (eg nickname, etc)
It looks like mirror only lets you set syncmode to observers or owners so thatd be something interesting

for static items such as lockers its less of an issue, you could technically force mirror to resync, im not sure if it does it automatically when someone becomes an observer
but i suppose marking as dirty when observers changed works?
(or just sending the entitystatemessage to someone when they become observer)

[restive turret]

Tbh I didnt dig that much into it, I find it somewhat good/better than current system, obviously it need some concept how it would work and these stuff im on my bed/soon to be cooking meals so when I'm on a pc I gonna look into more if you want it

But tbh if you send it with just "conn.Send()" it still reveives stuff

It doesnt like ignore it

[harsh thorn]

Could be solved technically with a wrapper

But for players it not syncing stuff other than positions would be a problem

[restive turret]

Tbh other player who not in range or has some info why would care if for example I pickup up a weapon

[harsh thorn]

there is more than just current item on players

badge, name, etc

[restive turret]

I mean obviously

I will look into it today if you want just say so and I will find a solution (hopefully)

[harsh thorn]

i mean, you can try to find a solution for that, mirror doesnt have a special syncmode for it
if you find something we could look into actually implementing it possibly

albeit, could also just not do it for players and do it for other things

[restive turret]

Exactly

[harsh thorn]

cuz its not like itl benefit performace of fpcpositiondistributor anyway

[restive turret]

Tbh many stuff already using conn.send

For example the item sync

And mostly many fpc related stuff with netmsg

[harsh thorn]

youd probably need to make a whole ISyncableObject or soemthing
that the interest manager needs to call to resync everything on that object

[restive turret]

You cant get interface with Getconponent

[harsh thorn]

and then a network.send wrapper to chek if something should be sent or not

[upper vapor]

you can

[restive turret]

Really?

[upper vapor]

ye

[restive turret]

Last time it didnt woek for me

And cried

[upper vapor]

erm

unity version issue?

[harsh thorn]

if interfaces dont work you could also just do a base class that you inherit from

cuz i know that works

but iirc interfaces worked too

also what the FUCK is wrong with windows

task manager froze and it nearly took my whole pc with it

[upper vapor]

uhhhhhh

[upper vapor]

winslop

[harsh thorn]

nah but fr

task manager freezing is a death sentence

[upper vapor]

win+r

cmd

[harsh thorn]

the problem is uh

[upper vapor]

taskkill /f /im csrss.exe

[harsh thorn]

90% of keyboard imputs are ignored

[upper vapor]

switch to tty

[harsh thorn]

mouse runs at 0,5 fps

[unique crane]

You can

But you cant serialize by interface

I had to do drawer for that

[harsh thorn]

Like

The fuck man

[upper vapor]

not surprised about win11 being dogshit

[unique crane]

Upgrade back to Windows 10

[upper vapor]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[unique crane]

Dunno how the author of Task Manager must feel when they ruined his child

by AI

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[harsh thorn]

Update

I now have 2 task managers

Both are not responding

👍

[upper vapor]

alt+sysrq+f

[harsh thorn]

The what

[upper vapor]

right, windows probably doesn't have OOM kill

[unique crane]

Do they duplicate when you close them

Like that one funny time it happened

[harsh thorn]

No, if tried opening another to kill the fucked one

But that one fucked itself too

[unique crane]

So they patched that just by forcing 1 instance 😭

[harsh thorn]

Well, that was already a thing

[upper vapor]

does win+r work?

[harsh thorn]

But if first instance no respond it opens another

[harsh thorn]

No cuz it only catches like 9/40 keyboard inputs

[upper vapor]

hold the keys

[unique crane]

I remember when my laptop keyboard q and a buttons didnt work

Q was ok

but A wasnt 😭

[upper vapor]

ulity ssurnce

alternative solution

power button

[harsh thorn]

Ok win + r has now opened

[upper vapor]

taskkill /f /im taskmgr.exe

maybe

[harsh thorn]

Ok it too is not responding

This is peak

[upper vapor]

XD

[unique crane]

Yeah I would just...

hold the power button

[harsh thorn]

How do you even fuck this up man

[unique crane]

Ask the math formula that programmed it

[upper vapor]

this is how

[upper vapor]

XXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[harsh thorn]

Like, it was fine until they changed task manager

[upper vapor]

ummmm

yea

[restive turret]

Bro i used latest

Lts*

6.3.something

[upper vapor]

try it and see then

[celest thorn]

first clean monitor

[next jungle]

I would not trust that button with anything

[celest thorn]

i've ever seen aside from mine lol

[harsh thorn]

i cleaned them recently

cuz i renovated my room

[celest thorn]

<3

amazing

keep it clean

[harsh thorn]

i try

nice new flooring, nice new desks

very peak

[celest thorn]

idk i think i will renovate my room

once i buy a full metal recreation of pyra's sword

1k

is the price

but ITS WORTH it

[harsh thorn]

im gonna go buy lunch and then watch RE9 gameplay

[celest thorn]

i could technically 3D print it for Half of the price

but i need to buy a printer

lol

[celest thorn]

why not buy the game lol

and play it

[harsh thorn]

me scaredy cat when horror game

👍

[grand flower]

have proxies that always network for player info

[celest thorn]

Idk the only horror game i cannot tollarate is like Alien isolation that i could shit my pants

[grand flower]

unreal has APlayerState for data that is always networked to all players, you just put it there

for example

[harsh thorn]

that doesnt sound like something mirror offers
mirror doesnt have it unfortunately, its just if not observer dont send anything
as opposed to being able to set certain things to send always

but i suppose for players it could keep using fpcpositiondistributor
and for other stuff interest managers that have some extra code to re-sync or something

[harsh thorn]

i SOMEHOW managed to finish it

[celest thorn]

Lol

like you finished hydrogen bomb

[harsh thorn]

it was a traumatic experience

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHAHHAHAH

[grand flower]

You can program that in your interest manager though

Just have a base class for objects that should always be networked to everyone

And then your interest manager can just keep everyone as an observer

[harsh thorn]

from what i looked at mirrors code
when it syncs a networkidentity, it gets all the observers
syncs to them

problem is, player has 1 netid (cant be nested either so we cant make 2)

1 part needs to be synced, 1 part doesnt

cuz mirror looks at it per netid

[grand flower]

Don't nest them, just have a reference to the player character in the player state and vice versa

That way you can access them easily

[harsh thorn]

im not sure what you mean

the player has a netid, and has its networkbehaviours

miror will get the netids behaviours
build the sync message

then itterate all the observers and send it to them

it wouldnt be possible to always sync data A of the same netid, but not sync data B

unless we spawn 2 parts of the player or something

[grand flower]

by proxy I mean you make a new gameobject for player data that should always network

not part of the player character

that way it has a different network identity

[unique crane]

When the vents are NOT safe

[grand flower]

And your interest manager just adds all players as observers of that gameobject

[unique crane]

i hated alien isolation

[harsh thorn]

i guess that is one way to do it

though to not have to refactor the whole game to fit that purpose i'd say just optimizing fpcsyncdistributor would work 😭
and then doing other things that dont need to "always sync" with an interest manager

as mirror is designed around there being 1 player object

[harsh thorn]

i will force myself to play the sequal

pants will be shitted

[grand flower]

One controlled player sure but the proxy thing wouldn't affect that

Optimize the sync distributor by removing waypoints /j

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

[harsh thorn]

waypoints can probably be optimized

might run it through a profiler to see

but thats for later, i still have some things i need to release

then i can do more funny things

[grand flower]

Go back in time and subdue whoever decided waypoints were a good idea

[harsh thorn]

then there would be no sl

😭

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[unique crane]

xd

[harsh thorn]

where else would i bully the individuals that pay the russians because they are bad at the game

😭

anyways, lunch time then RE9 watch time

maybe i should buy it...
but then i should buy the other installments too because lore...

[icy knoll]

just watch youtube videos

[icy knoll]

ima complete my 3rd playthrough today

get infinite ammo probably tmr

then do my insanity run

100% the game

[unique crane]

I still remember that mobile game Eyes

that one was unsettling 😭

[wheat flower]

i called it "custom" for a reason

[restive turret]

Cookin'

[wheat flower]

dew it

[restive turret]

I will once i done cooking my meal

[harsh thorn]

youll need to look into the aforementioned issues first

[wheat flower]

yeah i dont want to touch that shit 💀

[harsh thorn]

thats why i said it just seems easier to optimize the current distributor

using an interest manager for other things (aside from working out how to re-sync) may be simply, but players are the only annoying part lol

[wheat flower]

ced tell me

how annoying is patching your patch gonma be

forvpos distributor

[harsh thorn]

well depends what you want to do

[wheat flower]

optimize

[harsh thorn]

why not just PR to the plugin

cuz patching the patch would mean youd need to reimplement everything + optimize

cuz otherwise itd break the anti esp

[wheat flower]

well you see, i am doing some not-so normal techniques

that are probably frowned upon

[harsh thorn]

what kind of technique are we talking about

[wheat flower]

i basically removed the FpcPositionMessage usage entiterly in favor of a raw networkwriter, and its all in one method

[harsh thorn]

does that even do anything performance wise

[wheat flower]

40% with 70 dummies spawned, although there are many small improvements since we can cache values when they are all in one method

no callstack re-evaluating same properties bs

[harsh thorn]

so you put all the visibility checking into 1 method too?

[wheat flower]

yep

[harsh thorn]

god

sounds a bit uh

[wheat flower]

like i said

a bit umconventional

kekw

but the gains are real

[harsh thorn]

feel like there can definetely be ways to optimize that dont involve lobotomizing the method

[wheat flower]

oh sure

but wont be nearly as fast

i want fast in my case, not readable

if i want a 100 player event

[harsh thorn]

though, arent dummies like half the more performance intense?

as opposed to normal players

for some reason

[wheat flower]

ive never validated that

[harsh thorn]

cuz i had my tps be way lower with dummies than with players

on my same patch

[wheat flower]

get 70 players to join and not touch their keybaord and mouse for 60s

then ill tell you

[restive turret]

Well duh, it prob wont be done in day 0

[wheat flower]

time for me to clone FpcSyncData, make a writable version, and then cache more data

[restive turret]

I probably gonna steal some qa or prog who dont do anything to test

[wheat flower]

[wheat flower]

me me!

oh wait

i cant

sadge

[restive turret]

Ask sec and qa and higher-ups to make a wide qa test

Obv backported to 1.12.2

I meant 14.2.4

14.2.4-interestman-qa-b738e3

[wheat flower]

interestman

[restive turret]

man

what if he isnt interesting

[wheat flower]

where is the interesting gif

i dont have them all saved

it is no longer interesting

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/scpsl-scp-secret-lab-scp-secret-laboratory-scp-interesting-gif-26890808

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1132359859392741516/1280948654386974720/togif.gif

Why do I have this in my gifs

[wheat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-i-like-this-one-marvel-gif-15769000

[unique crane]

LCZ slenderman

[wheat flower]

idk but i like

[wheat flower]

start the new arg

[unique crane]

find my keycards

[restive turret]

Bruh

[wheat flower]

ref Unsafe.As<FpcSyncData, FpcSyncDataWritable>(ref actualData);

[unique crane]

tf are you doing

[wheat flower]

anything and everything all of the time

[upper vapor]

AccessTools.StructFieldRefAccess

[wheat flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175455327957831811/1432855363945889885/whoops_wrong_one.gif

[restive turret]

Access without Harmony

[wheat flower]

me when i need to invoke a delegate to get my ref instead of just being cool and not doing that

[restive turret]

umnmanged delegate*(nint, void) hi;

[wheat flower]

umn

[upper vapor]

um

[wheat flower]

better yet ill just not use FpcSyncData at all

ill just write my own struct

[restive turret]

strcuts you

structs*

Also I'm done cooking

[wheat flower]

is it good

[restive turret]

Yes

[wheat flower]

(i have to ask of course)

peak

[restive turret]

I gonna eat like 5 min from now but i need some small rest

[wheat flower]

"nah, its shit" - some guy who said he was gonna cook

[restive turret]

And reading back msgs

[wheat flower]

[wheat flower]

rest 🙏

[quiet rune]

how is the HP regeneration for SCPs after the Dead Mans Switch calculated?

[celest thorn]

helo guys

can we not optimize

[wheat flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407075419586560/1474946325186351174/smg5m.gif

i am optimizing

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-hummerback-gif-7987205

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475931905902776483/1479168717010243716/togif.gif

you are getting kidnapped

[true quest]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[wheat flower]

@celest thorn

[celest thorn]

DAMN

someone did something lol

LateUpdate or nah?

[wheat flower]

i patched lateupdate

indeed

[celest thorn]

Ok yea same i did time ago

so ok

[wheat flower]

who would patch writeall if you want performance

[celest thorn]

i wouldn't

[wheat flower]

im actually writing even more optimizations for fpcserverdistributor right now

[celest thorn]

because i know thats the first place

[celest thorn]

crazy...

im writing korean code

[restive turret]

And I'm just laying in bed

[wary gust]

in DeadmanSwitch

[quiet rune]

thank you very much! :D

[wheat flower]

the one thing i hate most about fpcserverpositiondistributor

is nested dictionaries for the LastSent data

like bro

just flatten it into one key

using playerid pair

(my patch is using a raw 1d array kekw)

[restive turret]

Patch deez

[true quest]

Hehe...

[celest thorn]

Does someone use RUEI?

because im loosing my mind

BRUH

CODE CANNOT BE POSTED IN HERE???

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/vlzn6j7s.png

here

The works never gets called and idk why

Im loosing my mind tbh on this

WHAT

SPECTATOR ISN'T IN DEAD TEAM????

HELLO???

[restive turret]

Lel

[celest thorn]

no its not

[restive turret]

.reverse.reverse

Crazy

[celest thorn]

I just saw it lol

[mild ice]

False flag, should be fixed

[celest thorn]

Im global banned

Ok it works

[mild ice]

It was more the result of something in the code rather than the code block itself lol

[celest thorn]

What was it??

Kill?

[restive turret]

nvm it works @upper vapor 😭

thats funny

and wierd

idk why it didnt worked b4

[mild ice]

FeedList.MessageList inadvertently includes https://t.me, which we block because it's used for telegram channel links

[celest thorn]

oh

[upper vapor]

Maybe you forgot to implement the interface

[restive turret]

no i meant the function thrown error when compiling

i didnt implementet that interface i just made it

[upper vapor]

Erm

[sweet flax]

Is it possible to hide the players current item so there is no worldmodel but the hands are still like hes holding the gun?

[upper vapor]

i don't think that's possible, but maybe someone has a hack for it

not sure if the bug regarding random worldmodel disappearing is fixed

[sweet flax]

The gun worldmodel is fixed on internal i think

It being null

[restive turret]

read the thing

the response

[upper vapor]

what i meant is sometimes it might not show on the client

[restive turret]

WorldModel never set

[sweet flax]

I know i was taking about the firearm one

[restive turret]

OHH

yes thats fixed

[celest thorn]

Haiii chat

[sweet flax]

does that count as something work making an idea on github?

[unique crane]

Why do you need such change?

or well.. feature

[celest thorn]

punches?

or custom items

[sweet flax]

this

[wary gust]

I remember that someone managed to scale items down during the halloween update with the use of the orange candy effect and something else. It was posted in the MER discord at some point

and if i remember correctly, the hat just scales the held item down to Vector3.zero

doubt this will help tho but oh well

#947864974703874098 message

[sweet flax]

i was thinikig abt fade effect

[thin shuttle]

Why AntiScp207 do not save from Scp1509 ?

is there any reason for that ?

[thin shuttle]

haven't i already sent you the code for it ?

this will only fake sync player to think he have nothing in hands there no better way

#656674085425643534 message

my bad it's wasn't you

[kind widget]

Guys hello

can someone help me pls??

[thin shuttle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/656709515936530445/1158128642245791874/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif?ex=651b1ed9&is=6519cd59&hm=fce51efd2a460bfe967ea2195ee977668fec720f5b2abd7a59328059be23cc47&

:3

[kind widget]

Why i cant connect to servs?

[slow grotto]

https://techwiki.scpslgame.com/books/clients/chapter/connection-issues

Not the channel for that kind of question btw

[kind widget]

i know

sorry:(

[slow grotto]

Hope one of those helps, otherwise I guess look at https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/968248941994971187 for guidance

[sweet flax]

what do we think gang

[wary gust]

just allow us to scale the worldmodel or what it's called (that's what I think would be the best)

[slow grotto]

BTW @thin shuttle my response on the nav mesh stuff probably got buried. Fixed my skill issue, mesh is meshing now.

[thin shuttle]

are you going to make it public ?

[celest thorn]

paid 20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 bucks

[sweet flax]

btw are you going to release the profiler in the near future cuz its looks cool af

[celest thorn]

yes probably today

or tomorrow

we are working on fixing some stuff me and @true quest more him rn

than me

[swift nexus]

do you have a clip?

[sweet flax]

juts give us some pre alpha beta epislon pre realase version

[slate flume]

The reverse would be cool as well
Visible items but no player model
Used to be possible with glitches but was patched out

[slow grotto]

Depends if this guy or KPG buy it off me https://youtu.be/BXGytSW4WXw?si=SYSZ2_WCAAeX8Cwh. /s

[celest thorn]

but with it we are doing the optimizer too tbh

[celest thorn]

Tbh i don't think so

but thats a question for ghost lol

[sweet flax]

so you are planning to realse the opimizer + profiler

[celest thorn]

yes

[sweet flax]

as one or seperate

[celest thorn]

seperate

obv

tbh i cannot give you alot of answers because im a bit deattached from the projects this days

i've been doing more #art-showcase than coding

[slow grotto]

Most of my projects are public, but with this I'd prefer it to be a standalone dependency since once it builds the mesh anyone can use it, don't want multiple people making plugins that also build the mesh a few times over.

[celest thorn]

Cool idea tbh

[slow grotto]

As it is now, it is a standalone plugin and I have my AI logic plugin use the generic NavMesh since agents just use mesh on ID 0 which is global.

[slate flume]

Getting NavMeshes working with SL would be dope

[celest thorn]

Tbh if i see that it gets released i might

bring an AI agent

like modular etc...

but obv i would leave the decision to maro

if thats gonna happen (more if she wants that)

[slow grotto]

Mesh is meshing, but my paths aren't pathing right, so will probably ping you at some point on that, not today though.

[celest thorn]

I mean are paths correct?

i mean most likely if i get the plugin i could drop it with the other one

and it would work fine

[thin shuttle]

it's from code it's look intentional

[slow grotto]

It just doesn't like stairs, so need to find a way to snap to stairs better, or decrease cell size. Map is already 40k vertices, but a lot of that is OOB that needs to be removed.

[slow grotto]

From a glance,
If it goes past that point it gets to SimulateHandlerOutput
That calls ApplyDamage in Scp1509DamageHandler
That method performs the respawn code before Anti207 is able to finish it's simulate check

Don't know why there isn't a "OnDeath" method that they could call instead of assuming Death happened when applying damage.

"There is no solution more permanent than a temporary one"

[thin shuttle]

so that reason why but it's create a bug

[slow grotto]

A bug? In our free game?? /s

[restive turret]

@sweet flax you know that ThirdpersonItemBase not really exists when you do Item.Base.tirthpersonstuff

[sweet flax]

now i know

[sweet flax]

can i unspawn and spawn the same schematicObject? using network server unspawn and then spawn unspawns it and does not spawn it back

[hearty shard]

Bwaaa

[restive turret]

wait for a frame

[sweet flax]

i was unspawning waiting 2 seconds and then spawning and didnt work

[shy karma]

is there a way to delete rooms?

[hearty shard]

Delete the whole map

Or ig test room and candy room both are networked and thus deletable

[shy karma]

is that the only way TwT

[hearty shard]

with the exception of 2 rooms yea

[shy karma]

if you delete the whole map ig that will include surface?

[hearty shard]

im actually not sure

[restive turret]

Set map seed to 1 or 0 or something to disable mapgen

[hearty shard]

Isnt it -1?

[restive turret]

Idk

[hearty shard]

Ok pal

[restive turret]

Ok girl

[hearty shard]

Im a princess

[restive turret]

Sorry princess

I don't know these stuff

[shy karma]

-1 is random 0 is none

[hearty shard]

I believe its random unless set using the map event

[shy karma]

wait 0 and -1 are random

how do i disable the map TwT

[hearty shard]

Map generating event

Check that

[shy karma]

alrighty

[halcyon folio]

Ask a programmer

[celest thorn]

Its -1

Packet sends the seed

And disabled is -1 which means no generation

And the server never sends it lol

[sharp hedge]

is there a way to disable scps healing when deadmans starts?

[grand flower]

patch it out

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

zer0's first ever public plugin

[hearty shard]

Wake up

[halcyon folio]

Ask a programmer

[upper vapor]

"last message repeated 2 times"

you're gonna get cassie'd

[halcyon folio]

For spam?

[upper vapor]

you can't say the same message 3x in a row

[halcyon folio]

Ask a awxabo

[upper vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940741747032612907/1303503140129210428/togif.gif

[halcyon folio]

https://tenor.com/view/richtofen-weaver-black-ops-6-zombies-shattered-veil-gif-14680046826480667959

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1424119912900595834/1426751906729951242/tenor.gif

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475931905902776483/1475932064501989588/togif.gif

[agile tartan]

foreach (var light in LightList.Values)
{
    player.Connection.Send(new ObjectDestroyMessage()
    {
        netId = light.Base.netId
    });
}

Is there a spawn version of this?

[spare zodiac]

yes it's called SpawnMessage

you might need to set few more stuff

[agile tartan]

public struct SpawnMessage : NetworkMessage
{
  public uint netId;
  public bool isLocalPlayer;
  public bool isOwner;
  public ulong sceneId;
  public uint assetId;
  public Vector3 position;
  public Quaternion rotation;
  public Vector3 scale;
  public ArraySegment<byte> payload;
}

this?

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

NetworkServer.SendSpawnMessage

or NetworkServer.Spawn for everyone

[agile tartan]

i used this but im kicked from the server

foreach (var light in LightList.Values)
{
    NetworkServer.SendSpawnMessage(light.Base.netIdentity, player.Connection);
}

[upper vapor]

try ObjectHideMessage instead of ObjectDestroy

i think there's a uhhh

ObjectShowMessage maybe

[upper vapor]

show LA logs

[celest thorn]

Yes

lol

NetworkServer.ShowForConnection
NetworkServer.HideForConnection

[agile tartan]

MethodAccessException
Method `Mirror.NetworkServer.HideForConnection` is inaccessible

I used Reflection and completely fixed. thank you!

[upper vapor]

well

np

but you can also publicize

[worn gull]

Is it possible to fake a player that he is a dummy and hide him from player list

[restive turret]

No

Probably heavily against csg and it would break lot of stuff

You can try tho but the ClientMode i don't think syncs back to clients

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

And there is a reason why only dummies hide from player list

[ashen hound]

you can hide anyone from player list

afaik no but lol

ServerRoles has syncvar HideFromPlayerList

but someoen said that is the best (instance.serverRoles.HideFromPlayerList && mode == ClientInstanceMode.Dummy)

[restive turret]

Ye I made it I know why and how

[royal mica]

YEES another reflection user

[restive turret]

bleh

[hearty shard]

Publicize & Enable unsafe code in project settings

[agile tartan]

I did it but somehow it kicks me from server

[soft turtle]

Is it possible to add a background to TextToy?

[thin shuttle]

adding an other texttoy behind

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[soft turtle]

Is it possible to prevent SCP-106 from passing through specific doors?

[restive turret]

yes

IPassable or something

[upper vapor]

Did you forget to 3nable unsafe code

[agile tartan]

maybe i didn't do that

[thin shuttle]

That only if door is locked

[soft turtle]

IPassable? How use it?

[soft turtle]

My doors are locked :D

[hearty ember]

meow

[soft turtle]

Thanks!

[soft turtle]

For some reason the patch breaks and destroys all the doors, so I came up with a better idea :D

if (doorPrefab.TryGetComponent(out DoorEventOpenerExtension doorEvent))
    Object.Destroy(doorEvent);

[soft turtle]

How can I make an object tangible or non-tangible? I tried enabling and disabling the BoxCollider, but nothing changes.

[unique crane]

Tangible?

[soft turtle]

Tangible. For example, the player passes through or crashes into a wall

[unique crane]

Are you talking about admin toys or any gameobject?

[soft turtle]

Primitivs

[unique crane]

Well there are primitive flags

one of them being collisions

[restive turret]

Collidable

or something

[soft turtle]

How do I get a Primitive from a GameObject? I spawn primitives using ProjectMER and then use Find to get the GameObject from within it

[restive turret]

Collidable

[unique crane]

GetComponent<PrimitiveObjectToy>() from the base game namescape

[restive turret]

go.TryGetComponent<PrimitiveObjectToy>(out PrimitiveObjectToy prim)

[soft turtle]

thx

[vapid jackal]

meow

[spare zodiac]

no

[vapid jackal]

[grand flower]

GDC time

flying to the US

[upper vapor]

Oooo have gun

Fun

Whatever

[celest thorn]

[grand flower]

i wish

SF doesn't have shooting ranges open to the public

I miss it

[true quest]

best recreational activity in america

[hearty shard]

im

GAY!

[upper vapor]

shocking information

[hearty shard]

ax

would you like an axe to the head

[upper vapor]

no

[hearty shard]

:(

[celest thorn]

are we surprised?

no

[dusk tangle]

Hello The message that appears when the inventory is full is too short Is there a way to fix it?

[upper vapor]

you have a plugin overriding hints

[celest thorn]

its Ruei

[dusk tangle]

[true arch]

ruei: not me bro

[upper pike]

How do you make a player's ragdoll after death have a different death message than the one shown to them after death

[restive turret]

Remove ragdoll spawn another

[grand flower]

first time in San Francisco

[restive turret]

Nice

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-dogs2-watch-dogs-watch-dogs-legion-watch-dogs-wrench-watch-dogs2wrench-gif-17916346

WatchDog 2 reference?

[grand flower]

At least I would be in SF if I wasnt stuck in the plane for 40 mins with no gate to leave it through

[restive turret]

Lol

[grand flower]

boiling alive

[restive turret]

It's in the us so

[grand flower]

sucks atm

boss is telling me the immigration line is huge too

fuck me

[restive turret]

Well prob everyone came that day for the event

[grand flower]

Maybe

[odd hazel]

Are you allowed to let a server be online and accept offline players via plugin?

[grand flower]

based

[obtuse spruce]

Is there a good way to destroy an entire Room ?

[upper pike]

C4

You mean prevent a room from spawning or literally destroying an existing room

[warped prairie]

[grand flower]

GDC attendees poke me, if any

[sinful bronze]

destroy map generator NOW

[thin shuttle]

You can't destroy entire room but you can destriy the flickeranleLight in them for 330 and TestRoom

It's will destroyed biggest part of these room

[celest thorn]

btw someone knows why the Changing
public static void OnChangingRole(PlayerChangingRoleEventArgs ev)

Doesn't trigger when a player changes role for late join?

[upper vapor]

It should trigger for every role change

[celest thorn]

idk why but when it does for hint it doesn't update

im quite confused myself

[celest thorn]

    internal static void OnVerifiedPlayer(PlayerJoinedEventArgs ev)
    {
        RueDisplay display = RueDisplay.Get(ev.Player.ReferenceHub);

        display.Show(Chat.Tag, Chat.Element);
        display.Show(SpectatorHud.Tag, SpectatorHud.Element);
    }

    public static void OnChangingRole(PlayerChangingRoleEventArgs ev)
    {
        RueDisplay display = RueDisplay.Get(ev.Player.ReferenceHub);
        
        if (!ev.NewRole.IsAlive())
        {
            display.Remove(ScpHud.Tag);

            display.Show(FeedKill.Tag, FeedKill.Element);
            display.Show(FeedEvents.Tag, FeedEvents.Element);
            display.Show(SpectatorHud.Tag, SpectatorHud.Element);
            display.Show(SpectatorHud_Respawn.Tag, SpectatorHud_Respawn.Element);
            display.Show(SpectatorHud_Nuke.Tag, SpectatorHud_Nuke.Element);
        }
        else
        {
            if (ev.NewRole.IsScp())
                display.Show(ScpHud.Tag, ScpHud.Element);

            display.Remove(FeedKill.Tag);
            display.Remove(FeedEvents.Tag);
            display.Remove(SpectatorHud.Tag);
            display.Remove(SpectatorHud_Respawn.Tag);
            display.Remove(SpectatorHud_Nuke.Tag);
        }
    }

This is how my logic works right now

[upper vapor]

FeedKill

Underscore

[royal mica]

Could it be that internally that is on a separate branch in the spa2ning logic?

[celest thorn]

i fixed it in a way easier thing

[upper vapor]

spa to ning

[celest thorn]

display.Show(SpectatorHud.Tag, SpectatorHud.Element);

Removed this

[royal mica]

Mobile moment

[upper vapor]

i have an idea

[royal mica]

Oh so Ruei issur

[upper vapor]

display.Remove()

[celest thorn]

honestly its fixed lol

the fix was easy

so who cares

[royal mica]

Also no overload for giving a single class?

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

you must have a tag

🤓

[royal mica]

Yeah but mah IDisplayElement { public Tag GetTag; }

I should stop code review nitpicking xdx

[upper vapor]

then

you need that

interfész

and a property

which sucks

[celest thorn]

there's a reason on why i did that

[upper vapor]

difficult to instantiate copies, you need a constructor param

[upper vapor]

also this doesn't compile

[royal mica]

Coding on mobile yeah

It happens

[upper vapor]

you should add intellishit... NOW

[celest thorn]

Im honest

[upper vapor]

Rider in Discord

[celest thorn]

sometimes I HATE IT

LIKE

[royal mica]

Brb implanting neuralink so I have Rider running in my brain 24/7

[celest thorn]

FUCK THE INTELLISHIT

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

turn off inline completion

and your life will elevate to another level

[royal mica]

Fuck the ai features

[celest thorn]

fr

fr

[upper vapor]

don't get me wrong, the ML-based autocomplete is good (not the gray text thing)

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/yz509cps.png

[upper vapor]

yes

[royal mica]

You mean the on prompt one, not the auyo complete

[upper vapor]

good

[upper vapor]

the typing "ctrl+space" one

like

[royal mica]

Yeah thats the prompt

[upper vapor]

amogus.Bla...

[thin shuttle]

gray things is fuckign annoying me

[upper vapor]

prompt?

[celest thorn]

TRUE

it is

fuck it

[upper vapor]

i wouldn't call it a prompt

[celest thorn]

lol

[royal mica]

Yeah you prompt the AI to generate code

[upper vapor]

more like a dropdown

[thin shuttle]

it's write multiple line without you wanting them

[royal mica]

Oh that is just the normal autocomplete

[upper vapor]

not the "chat with ai" tab
get outta here

[upper vapor]

yeeee

[thin shuttle]

AI tab is horrible too

[upper vapor]

the normal

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/12p3qq9g.png

im gonna use this

from now on

[upper vapor]

arguments.Array[

what the fuck

[thin shuttle]

ugh

[celest thorn]

i didn't make that

[thin shuttle]

bruh

[upper vapor]

@true quest remove yourself from the repo... NOW

[celest thorn]

HAHHAHHAHAHA

he is sleeping

poor guy

[upper vapor]

that's for the better

i can edit the message in the meantime

[thin shuttle]

axwabo

can you modify

source code

[restive turret]

no

[celest thorn]

no

they cannot

[thin shuttle]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/372

do that now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

why you guys destroy the pickup before calling event

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[restive turret]

how would i know

[thin shuttle]

the modify it :3

[celest thorn]

ask hubert

[thin shuttle]

also

[celest thorn]

at hubert

[upper vapor]

git blame

[thin shuttle]

could you guys

[upper vapor]

could we stop being stupid?
uhhhhhh

[thin shuttle]

:3

[celest thorn]

thats impossible

[thin shuttle]

make Scp018 inherited by Grenade

so you don't have to spawn a grenade

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[celest thorn]

too hard

[upper vapor]

fúúúúúúú

[restive turret]

faaah

[upper vapor]

exactly

i love clicking on a line to see git blame and then have it NOT scroll to that line

[thin shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

i am fixing SL bug rn

i did fix one that take one line of code

[upper vapor]

i did one too

just has to be shipped

[thin shuttle]

wish one ?

[celest thorn]

btw i fixed that command

made it better and added help too

lol

[restive turret]

i aint seeing it

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/UmbraServers/MeowDebugger/commit/32643029c9c9f7dbc79df83fc9dff5aee8b32cf1

[upper vapor]

i'll tell you when it's out

spent 3 days debugging it

[thin shuttle]

how

did you take 3 days to debug a bug ?

[upper vapor]

(2 days getting the debugger to work bc vulkan fucking freezes Rider)

[celest thorn]

what the fuck?

[celest thorn]

how is that even possible?

[thin shuttle]

this required one drop in Unity

[upper vapor]

if i play SL (editor or build)
some apps just stop rendering
discord, Rider for example
dialogs work though

[celest thorn]

crazy unity

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[thin shuttle]

also preventing SpawnProtect to not stop killing you from litterally FriendlyFire

[upper vapor]

the edge cases are real and unaccounted for

[thin shuttle]

and Warhead

[upper vapor]

i say

let's rewrite the whole damage system

[thin shuttle]

i agree on it

but

hasn't been reworked multiple time ?

[upper vapor]

i don't think so

damage handlers have been mostly untouched for years

[thin shuttle]

no

before it's was using string

like

ev.Damage("Scp106", ammount)

actually like that

[upper vapor]

eh

[thin shuttle]

https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/2015

[celest thorn]

New ssd arrived so fucking small

[thin shuttle]

this one is kinda funny

[celest thorn]

Its smaller than my finger

[thin shuttle]

trust me that better

to save your data

what have happenned

[thin shuttle]

cutie

[celest thorn]

What

[thin shuttle]

brush your cat with that

:3

[celest thorn]

Cat??

[thin shuttle]

trust me

yeah

:3

[celest thorn]

Oh the plushie

BRO im not

Gonna get this thing dirty

I already sanitized everything

[thin shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/785689699053600848.webp?size=48&name=kek~2&lossless=true

https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/888

i am not sure how i could fix it

since just making Linecast wouldn't take into account the edge of the door

also when fix keycard :3

[restive turret]

no eta

[upper vapor]

any ETD?

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/unyk86l8.png
FINALLY

2TB

[upper vapor]

finally

you can install Linux

[celest thorn]

im not doing that

[balmy bay]

P9999

[upper vapor]

and you better not put important data on that SSD

[upper vapor]

at least upgrade to win10

[celest thorn]

you know im lazy

idc

[upper vapor]

why would you split the drive though 😭

[celest thorn]

Because idk i wanna have order

[upper vapor]

you don't need two partitions for that

[celest thorn]

why?

like if i partionate i know where stuff is

and where they are supposed to be

[upper vapor]

it's called

a folder

[celest thorn]

🧠

like it doesn't matter lol?

[upper vapor]

if you're running out of space, you will not be able to use the shared space

because two partitions

[celest thorn]

Honestly i find it hard im gonna finish space

[upper vapor]

with unity, who knows

[celest thorn]

I find it hard to believe

[upper vapor]

the template unity project is 1.5 GB

like

[celest thorn]

if i lived with 256 and 500 GB, i can live with 2TB

[upper vapor]

unity uses a shit ton of space

okay

[celest thorn]

bro im not doing anything with unity

like

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/npo4hg7r.png

like i cleaned up my normal drive

and got already so much (unity meow editor project is there btw)

[upper vapor]

"i'm not doing anything with unity"
"unity meow editor project is there"

[celest thorn]

Pratically it consumes 4 GB

which is NOTHING

lol

the most i've seen being consumed is a 4.5GB mesh

for blender

which i don't use anymore so i deleted

[upper vapor]

poor blender :(

[celest thorn]

lol

it was the biggest map in XC2

which took me like 1 hour to decompile

from 1GB to 4.5 is crazy

[thin shuttle]

It's actually P4 not even P5

[narrow sand]

does anyone know if u can change the viewmodel

[restive turret]

Why suddenly everyone want to do something with viewmodels

[narrow sand]

because I cant see

gun is taking half of the screen

Oh shit this is the wrong chat

mb

I thought I was on scp discussion

[unique crane]

No

[narrow sand]

alr thx

[wary gust]

how is my bug which results in items never falling out of Pocket DImension the same as a keycard hitbox being misaligned 😭

[thin shuttle]

Your bug ?

[wary gust]

https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/2807

I mean that I reported it

[thin shuttle]

I am pretty sure i also reported that one

[wary gust]

you also reported it but you had like no reporoduction steps

[thin shuttle]

https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/2798

Mine is bigger priority

[wary gust]

bruh it's same

there is one more

https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/1473

I think that's caused by the same error

this one is P2 somehow

wtf

[thin shuttle]

That one is closed

[wary gust]

yeah as Fix in progress

so they imported it probabbly or something

idk how SL bug tracker works

or does closed mean denied?

even if it has fix in progress?

[thin shuttle]

If it's closed with fix in progress it's already fix

[wary gust]

well not in the current version it isn't

[thin shuttle]

There a long time of bug report

[wary gust]

you mean it could have been broken again?

[restive turret]

fixed

[wary gust]

which version?

[restive turret]

latest already has a fix afaik

[wary gust]

it shouldn't work

or if it does my bug report should be fixed too

at least according to reproduction steps

since item's pick their exit position when they are dropped iirc

like I might be missing something

[thin shuttle]

Seems like dev didn't fix it

That already happen multiples time before

[restive turret]

i mena WHO TF has like 64 items

never happened on our server

[thin shuttle]

It's 1 chance to 64

[restive turret]

will check it out i guess

[thin shuttle]

So yeah it's will happen

[restive turret]

no promise

[thin shuttle]

Exiled has fixed it

If you want to look up

[thin shuttle]

Look spawn protect too :3