plugins-dev-chat

[unique crane]

It was my favourite thing to debug when doing the cursors thing

[restive turret]

would be faster if aint IL2CPP

[wary gust]

I got dnSpy I just got no clue what that thing would even be called

[upper vapor]

this is what you get when you try to start a process but it doesn't work
also sometimes you get a success result in this

process creation failed: success

[wary gust]

oh you are gonna look on client side code

[restive turret]

search around model, or Hitbox or something

[upper vapor]

really fun how i get spammed in the editor about the DLL not existing

[grand flower]

I use it to pass Steam callback data from a background thread to the main thread

[unique crane]

Im still fighting to understand why is a method const

[grand flower]

Because it doesn't modify its object

[upper vapor]

like readonly for struct methods

[unique crane]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[hearty shard]

what

[unique crane]

cool

[restive turret]

tbh there is more callbacks

[grand flower]

Makes debugging easier

I know

[hearty shard]

what is any of this

[grand flower]

I can add up to 255 types

so it'll be enough

[restive turret]

hehe

[grand flower]

I'm adding them as I handle them

[restive turret]

you think

ah thats a good idea

you going from abc sorting with the interfaces

or what you need first then others

[grand flower]

what I need first

i'm doing auth atm

[upper vapor]

"this video is sponsored by [js auth provider]"

[restive turret]

you meant node_modules

[grand flower]

background thread that handles callbacks

void FSteamCallbackRunner::Tick()
{
    check(FPlatformTLS::GetCurrentThreadId() == RunnerThreadId);

    if (Crowbar.IsSteamClientAvailable())
    {
        SteamAPI_RunCallbacks();
    }

    if (Crowbar.IsSteamServerAvailable())
    {
        SteamGameServer_RunCallbacks();
    }
}

[upper vapor]

right margin...

[grand flower]

and then it just throws those callbacks to a queue that gets read on the main thread

[grand flower]

it's a suggestion not a convention

[upper vapor]

i hate seeing it

[restive turret]

its funny how you named it crowbar

[grand flower]

friend gave me the idea

since it's a Steam plugin

void FSteamCallbackRunner::OnSteamServersConnected(SteamServersConnected_t* pParam)
{
    FSteamCallbackData CallbackData{};
    CallbackData.Variant.Set<SteamServersConnected_t>(*pParam);
    CallbackQueue.Enqueue(MoveTemp(CallbackData));
};

also this is what the macro does

[restive turret]

@wary gust

CharacterModel model = role.FpcModule.CharacterModelInstance;

    if (model != null)
        return;

    foreach (HitboxIdentity hitbox in model.Hitboxes)
    {
        hitbox.SetColliders(isEnabled);
    }

[upper vapor]

that's not gonna sync to the client though

[grand flower]

no using is with unity objects

[unique crane]

Using is with unity objects is hella scary

[upper vapor]

try not to fall for the most obvious trap challenge

[restive turret]

[unique crane]

Might spontaneously combust

[upper vapor]

(it's not so obvious)

[grand flower]

NW devs try not to NRE challenge (impossible)

[upper vapor]

the funny thing is that the .NET object lives on
i unloaded the scene the spline was in
object kept moving along the spline

[restive turret]

its an unreleased stuff so, and it wasnt even testd

also yes its indeed 30 minute build

[grand flower]

what are your pc specs

[upper vapor]

gah dayum

[restive turret]

R5 3600
32GB RAM
RTX 2070

[warped prairie]

Single transistor cpu,
1kb ram
Integrated graphics

[hearty shard]

guh

https://tenor.com/view/boois-rags-cat-eyes-emoji-gif-7704442463942354243

[wary gust]

This won't work for client sync reasons as axwabo mentioned but do you know where the code for interrupting a charge is perchance?

(also tested it just in case, it in fact doesn't work)

[upper vapor]

i have worse specs than you and i'm pretty sure my builds take no longer than 25 minutes 😭

[restive turret]

you cant interrupt the client side code tho

[wary gust]

but maybe I can see what it uses to check and do something about that

[restive turret]

MeleeAutoSyncItem.DetectDestructibles

or you can fakesync serverconfig

[cyan crown]

congrats on the upgrade

[restive turret]

tx

[hearty ember]

single transistor cpus dont have igpu

[cyan crown]

i was playing on 16:10 and i saw a missing texture in incinerator room it was for a small duration then it disappered

only at top of my screen and it only happend once then never did again

i know this isn't a QA report but if anyone is curious here is the seed 299834254

[restive turret]

i have ordinal monitor

so cant do anyhting with it

[cyan crown]

i think its the incinerator heat shader

[restive turret]

shader ? idk her

[cyan crown]

☠️

[cyan crown]

i think it works

i don't know about the performance cost if there was multiple players but i'll probably not render their reflection probes

the viewmodel just feels off its probably because i don't have camera stacking added yet

[cyan crown]

does anyone know if SL only uses a single audio clip for E11?

[restive turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286286510416597022/1476712160263409784/image.png?ex=69a21ede&is=69a0cd5e&hm=6d4fa182eb2c752ca36bba717a9b4bfe3248ba78b828c5b3e875aaddc3609ac5&

[tulip kiln]

I would also delete cmakelists

[teal junco]

my understanding is that it uses a single audio clip for unsuppressed and one for suppressed. IF it doesn't sound right when youre doing sustained fire then youre probably gonna have to look for an audio clip of the gun firing continuously

but I wont pretend to know whether the clip of sustained fire even exists! I just know some games use that

[cyan crown]

i tried using 3 audio sources at same time

it kinda sounds better

but its still a bit off

don't worry about the sway i'm still looking going to update it

[carmine prawn]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1476807512668901536

[teal junco]

sounds like an issue with audio engineering than anything, it sounds right to me besides the lack of reverb

[cyan crown]

Yeah i had no reverb in that scene

Still early for it since im gonna work on a dynamic reverb system for SL legacy

Btw this is the new one
https://youtu.be/7OWF2gfQQFo?si=mzwGwD3K04Z13LTn

I increased amount ot audio sources, along side some other small changes to the pitch and volume.

[teal junco]

Mind if i sent this vid to my friends?

[cyan crown]

No worries its public now, you can share it :'D

It will take me a long painful time working on the rest i still have to work on AK, Shotgun, FSP9, Com18, Com15 and later keycards but those are easier since their animator has like 2 animations

[upper vapor]

Me when PlayOneShot

PlayOneShit

[upper vapor]

Oh God, reverb zones... why does it have to be so difficult

[restive turret]

The fart reverb sound

[cyan crown]

Real

[cyan crown]

Yeah why doesnt unity just update their fmod version

[restive turret]

Or fmod doesn't update unity version

Happens to mirror too, despite they have a new package they ain't uploading that

[cyan crown]

Lmao did you see unity now are leveling up urp to hdrp level of graphics

[restive turret]

I'm not gonna play that

[cyan crown]

By the way my idea for the reverb is kinda painful to setup since it has to he acounting for the audio sources inside a box collider and others outside of it

The idea is basically it enables reverb zone only when player is inside a box collider or any custom collider, and to avoid reverb zone leaking to other rooms. then it adjusts the audio sources reverb filters to a different preset if they're outside of the box

[warped prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-goobab-goobab-purple-glaggle-gif-12050201946939511651

[cyan crown]

I tried only the enabling reverb in this example

https://youtu.be/4dCVV2yDfHQ?si=1Ko4JIqw-fEJJqJw

[grand flower]

why not use Steam Audio

[restive turret]

Also cyn what you use to get the mic record from the player?

Is it like steam voice record or something else

[grand flower]

Haven't implemented that yet but it'll be Steam's voice APIs yes

[upper vapor]

yeah i had a similar idea to that but like
you gotta interpolate the reverb zones at the edges

[grand flower]

ISteamUser::StartVoiceRecording(), ISteamUser::StopVoiceRecording() and ISteamUser::GetVoice()

Then I'll just network the data manually

[cyan crown]

😨

[grand flower]

Once I figure out how I should network voice data properly, haven't done that before

[cyan crown]

Yea it will be so much work i'll probably keep it for later in dev

[restive turret]

Many stuff using UnreliableUnsequnced or is it sequnced ? Idk

[grand flower]

Don't have that in Unreal

I'll either use RPCs or open a socket connection dedicated to voice

maybe

Probs the former

The latter is easy with SDR but without you'd need a dedicated port and that sucks

[cyan crown]

I started to change my mindset about game dev honestly i used to get burned out, but now im more or a happy man seeing amount of work i need to do since what purpose will i have if i don't wake up and work on something awesome

[restive turret]

You can send the msg tru steamnet or steamsocket

[grand flower]

i would need a dedicated port

if the server isn't using SDR

makes it sucky

Unless I force SDR for voice

Not a bad idea

[restive turret]

I didnt seen what sdr or how it is so

[grand flower]

Steam Datagram Relay

you'd still need a port though nvm

[upper vapor]

small dynamic range

[restive turret]

Kek

[grand flower]

Just that generally if your server uses it for the game port, you can have a toj of virtual ports to route the data to different sockets

iirc Steam says < 1000 virtual ports

Maybe I'll have that as an option

If your server uses SDR I'll switch to a low level socket for voice data

Cheaper

[restive turret]

It still wraps your data into protobuf

[grand flower]

I don't think it uses protobuf

does it?

Either way cheaper than going through the engine

[restive turret]

Every steam communication does that

[grand flower]

The steam api yes

not steam networking sockets

[restive turret]

https://github.com/SteamDatabase/Protobufs/blob/master/steam/steamdatagram_messages_sdr.proto

[cyan crown]

Btw does SL use reflection probes in real time for viewmodel reflection?

Also is it a box or sphere?

[grand flower]

That's for relay pings and utils

not the actual transport layer of the sockets

Your client needs to stay up to date on the best route to a server so you get continuous relay information

which is why they recommend you call InitRelayNetworkAccess() as soon as possible if you plan to use SDR

That initiates a connection from your client to the relay network and calculates best routes to relays

[tired charm]

thanks for the feedback btw. i have changed from MethodInfo to DynamicMethod now which is ~85 times faster. I also changed from throwing exceptions to returning a CommandResult which has bool for failure/success and string for message which is ~16 times faster. lmk if yall have any other suggestions

first and second image is MethodInfo to DynamicMethod invoke difference in a 100 million loop
third and fourth image is throwing exception to returning CommandResult difference in a 1 million. it shows success because i put it in a loop and ignored the exception/result

[restive turret]

Ah

[grand flower]

Maybe I'll give the option for servers to have a voice port

hmmm

Cross that bridge when I get to VOIP heh

Plenty more to do first

[dusk tangle]

I'm not sure if the VPN checking API is causing this, but some users are experiencing increased ping. Could there be an issue with the code?

[upper vapor]

use awaitables and put await Awaitable.BackgroundThreadAsync() before making the request

[dusk tangle]

thx!

[upper vapor]

np

[dusk tangle]

It says 'Awaitable' doesn't exist. Which .dll do I need to add?

[upper vapor]

it's in UnityEngine.CoreModule

also, when are you invoking this?

[dusk tangle]

When you turn on the VPN and enter the server

[upper vapor]

yeah but which event

[dusk tangle]

PlayerJoinedEventArgs

[spare zodiac]

is cullable parent toy released? Why is no one speaking about it?

[upper vapor]

it's been a thing for like

half a year at least

probably more

[spare zodiac]

there's not even single wrapper on it

I want to check it's implementation, but will not be on computer for like next 4-6 hours

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/AdminToys/SpawnableCullingParent.cs

[spare zodiac]

oh...

thank you mans

[upper vapor]

np

[spare zodiac]

so like what does it do? Can I just add it as parent to something and it'll just be culled?

[upper vapor]

you parent stuff to it and if you can't "see" the bounding box, the things in it will disappear

[spare zodiac]

why is no one using this

pmo

[upper vapor]

because

ppl are not smart

or stuck in the past

[spare zodiac]

if I have

cullableToy
object1
object2

will object2 be also culled?

[upper vapor]

yes

[spare zodiac]

and do raycasts work on it normally?

[upper vapor]

everything in the parent will be deactivated

[unique crane]

on client*

[spare zodiac]

so server still has spawned all the objects and it's "only" optimisation for client?

[unique crane]

Yes

[pulsar locust]

i mean the server still needs to know they're there

Culling is typically a rendering optimisation lmao

[grand flower]

void FSteamUserInterface::HandleValidateAuthTicketResponse(FOnlineServicesCrowbar& InServices, const FSteamCallbackData& Data)
{
    const ValidateAuthTicketResponse_t& Params = Data.Get<ValidateAuthTicketResponse_t>();
    const FOnlineError Result = SteamAuthSessionReponseToError(Params.m_eAuthSessionResponse);
    
    UE_LOGFMT(LogOnlineServices, Log, "Crowbar: auth ticket for remote user '{0}' validated by Steam servers with result '{1}': {2}",
        Params.m_SteamID.ConvertToUint64(), Result.GetLogString(), Result.GetText().ToString());
    
    // If the owner id does not match the auth ticket's steam id, we'll also display it.
    if (Params.m_OwnerSteamID.IsValid() && Params.m_SteamID != Params.m_OwnerSteamID)
    {
        UE_LOGFMT(LogOnlineServices, Log, "Crowbar: auth ticket for remote user '{0}' marked as family shared from real owner '{1}'",
            Params.m_SteamID.ConvertToUint64(), Params.m_OwnerSteamID.ConvertToUint64());
    }

love that Steam just gives you the "real" owner of a game if a player is family sharing

gonna be nice to expose that to mods so they can use it for alt prevention

[spare zodiac]

well yeah just my problem with this approach is that it takes too much resources from server

[unique crane]

What resources

2Kb of ram?

the 3 lines of code to handle the update which you can disable

[spare zodiac]

I mean spawn 7K primitives

the server tps are going down

[unique crane]

Solution: spawn less

[spare zodiac]

not solution David

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[unique crane]

Another solution: fake them on client and spawn just box colliders on server

or other colliders

[upper vapor]

Make them static

[spare zodiac]

will I be able to use the Cullable toy for this though? I could theoretically fake also the toy

[spare zodiac]

doesn't help very much

[restive turret]

Don't use them

[spare zodiac]

I need more context for this message

-# don't know what u mean

[restive turret]

Primitives ofc

[spare zodiac]

yoink

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1476875331091693620/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

i can't make ts up

[unique crane]

rr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620576156613345310/1476787727759573013/image.png?ex=69a2653f&is=69a113bf&hm=a24d068c237fb7bce7cf286d3d99fd53993286d208e3ba85480121ea220efefc&

[upper vapor]

NO

[frail zinc]

tps fine

[hollow remnant]

how to check server restart/shutdown reason?

in C#

[spare zodiac]

can you show tps?

[spare zodiac]

you need to patch the method that restarts the server to log what was the cause

[hollow remnant]

where is "how to"?

[spare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[spare zodiac]

how much fps do you have when you're near the 66K prim?

[frail zinc]

same as in a normal game, for most people, maybe there is 10 fps less than usual

[spare zodiac]

mine always has like big drop of fps

[frail zinc]

even on a potato computer, everything fine

[frail zinc]

are they many errors in your localadminlogs ?

like spamming errors

[spare zodiac]

no

[frail zinc]

then you should use MEROptimizer

[spare zodiac]

I'm trying to optimize the MEROptimizer

[frail zinc]

you're already using mero ??

[spare zodiac]

yeah it's not optimizing that much how cullable toy could

[sweet flax]

Cullable toy e.g breaks ragdoll

And mero does not do that

Because it keeps like flooor spawned at all times

[upper vapor]

yeah but MERO would put a lot of unecessary strain on the server

by doing these despawning stuff

[spare zodiac]

^

[spare zodiac]

better to break ragdoll and gain performance

I don't think many people use ragdolls in PMer

[upper vapor]

Well if your primitives are client-side only then you should get more tps

MERO should do that for you already

[spare zodiac]

it does do that yes

only spawns colliders

[upper vapor]

Then why do you have less tps with less primitives

[spare zodiac]

I was talking about static before

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239547692342837288/1303033687964913758/caption-13.gif

[upper vapor]

6

[sweet flax]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi%2FFeatures%2FWrappers%2FPlayers%2FPlayer.cs#L903-L921

Shouldn't there be a listpool return?

[hearty shard]

thats for you to do

after use

[restive turret]

There is a pr to remove it

[upper vapor]

No bc someone decided to make devs' lives horrible

You should've read the xml docs!!1!1!11

[restive turret]

it was you all along

[ashen hound]

Gets a pooled list

you should return it later

I think you dont need to have ListPool as return

[upper vapor]

Yeah but the design choice is flawed

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2engineer-imposter-it-could-be-you-meme-tf2spy-gif-23428001

[tulip kiln]

What happens if I don't return the list back to the pool

Is there a real chance I can run out?

[upper vapor]

It'll create new lists

So basically you're wasting memory

[tulip kiln]

If it wasn't for this conversation, I wouldn't have even checked for this lol

I wonder how many people use DropAllAmmo() or DropAllItems() and don't return

[restive turret]

many

I have a PR to fix it

[sweet flax]

why tf does it return a list

should it be just void

[upper vapor]

someone thought it was a good idea

though these 2 methods in particular

like

omg

wouldn't it be funny if it returned an IEnumerable and only dropped the items as you were enumerating?

[scarlet cobalt]

How to use FakeConnection (not speaker) to play an audio clip in the current version?

like https://github.com/CedModV2/SCPSLAudioApi

but is does't work now

[static meteor]

Why not use https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1338832854997536769 or https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1407844197301620826

[upper vapor]

you can't send audio through players with AudioPlayerApi

[restive turret]

lol @upper vapor

[upper vapor]

what the helly is this

[restive turret]

it sent me here

💀

[upper vapor]

i'm even more confused

[restive turret]

ye

[upper vapor]

what project did you open 😭

[restive turret]

my c# ope

[upper vapor]

that explains everything

visual slopio

[restive turret]

no thats explains nothing

why does it want to open with c++ if everything inthe project is c#

[upper vapor]

this is what happens when you vibe-code your IDE

[restive turret]

vibe code your OS

[upper vapor]

the humble SSH backdoor:

https://tenor.com/view/hi-ryan-gosling-hey-wave-hello-gif-5011139

[hollow remnant]

how to check when player throw grenade?

[upper vapor]

PlayerThrowingProjectileEvent

[hollow remnant]

and how to identify that?

like

is grenade, is scp 018 and other

[sweet flax]

Smth like if ev.Projectile is TimedGrenade

Idk exactly

[unique crane]

^

[restive turret]

ExplosiveProjectile

Or something

There is also one for 018

[slate flume]

If you're only worried about type just check the ItemType of the projectile, and don't worry about casting to things like TimedGrenade

[soft turtle]

What event is triggered when a player spawns via SCP-1509? If there is no such event, what method spawning?

[slate flume]

RoleChanged

Check if ChangeReason is Resurrected

[soft turtle]

How can I know who killed the player?

[restive turret]

Attacking/attacked

[unique crane]

We will have 1509 events next update btw

I merged it like

5 minutes ago

[slate flume]

PlayerDeath

[restive turret]

It was ready for .... A long time

[unique crane]

Ready or not

[soft turtle]

No. I need to figure out which player killed the other player and cancel the spawn using SCP-1509.

[slate flume]

You want to make it so certain players can't revive using 1509?

[restive turret]

If you cancel attacking /hurt it will not receive

Revive

[slate flume]

It also won't damage

[restive turret]

Just override the dmg handler

Like custom reason and that's it

[slate flume]

What's your ultimate goal, be specific

[soft turtle]

Yes

[slate flume]

Okay

You familiar with harmony patches?

[restive turret]

It can be done with OnHurting too.
Check if the dmg handle ris 1509 , get the attacker, if its your one to deny then replace dmg handle with custom reason

[slate flume]

That's one method but that fucks up anything relying on it being Scp1509DamageHandler

[soft turtle]

Sure. What method is called when SCP-1509 spawns?

[slate flume]

Scp1509Item::ServerProcessKill

[soft turtle]

Ok

Thx

[restive turret]

Ye thats the reason you override to not spawn revived players

So you essentially killing the player without resurrecting others

[slate flume]

Of course
I would add, you could do a better system if you set the _nextResurrectTime to be some large number

[restive turret]

Ye that's good alternative

Float.MaxValue

[slate flume]

Scp1509Item._nextResurrectTime = double.MaxValue; or something
That'll prevent particles and effects from playing if you can't revive

[soft turtle]

Its sound like crutch

[slate flume]

It works cleaner because otherwise the game registers that you can revive and it plays the smoke effects and stuff while you're holding it

[soft turtle]

Will this affect other players?

[restive turret]

No

[slate flume]

No, just the item

[restive turret]

Only that item

[thin shuttle]

ResurrectingEventArgs ?

[soft turtle]

Ah ok

[slate flume]

Doesn't exist

[restive turret]

Not yet added

[thin shuttle]

ah ok

[restive turret]

Me when I misstyoe ressurecting

[thin shuttle]

that why there still a warn log for it ?

[slate flume]

_nextResurrectTime persists between item drops, so if you're doing it for specific players, remember to reset it once it's dropped

[restive turret]

No, that's because there is no pickup wrapper for it

[slate flume]

Get to work slime boy

[restive turret]

• set it back if the target player picked up

[hearty shard]

slime boy

[restive turret]

Its already merged

I did work for today

[thin shuttle]

yeah that why

it's kept

[restive turret]

Ye

[thin shuttle]

could you make a big breaking change ?

make than Item and Pickup are no more differentiate

:3

[restive turret]

There is already many in the way by me

[restive turret]

Huh

[thin shuttle]

instead of having two different class

for pickup and Item

only having one

[restive turret]

That would need rewrite for everything

[thin shuttle]

yeah
.

:3

[hearty shard]

do it

itll be funny

[restive turret]

I through smth like

[thin shuttle]

do it

[hearty shard]

and make sure to release it without a beta

[thin shuttle]

:3

ahhahah

[slate flume]

Get to work!

[thin shuttle]

honnestly it's would be good

[restive turret]

It needs NetworkBeh on it

[thin shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/785689699053600848.webp?size=48&name=kek~2&lossless=true

[hearty shard]

then do that

[soft turtle]

Just set it to 0?

[slate flume]

That prob works

[soft turtle]

Ok. I will try it

[restive turret]

Well I tried something like that
https://github.com/SlejmUr/Unity.SLRemake/blob/master/Assets/Scripts/InventorySystem/Items/TestItem.cs

[slate flume]

What you might wanna do is
Person picks up 1509, not allowed to use it, _nextResurrectTime += 100000
Person not allowed to use 1509 drops it (_nextResurrectTime > 100000), _nextResurrectTime -= 100000
This would prevent not allowed players from picking it up and dropping it to an allowed player for no revive cooldown

100000 seconds is over a day so I figured it'd be a good example

[unique crane]

Tf is that

[restive turret]

Wdym

[unique crane]

Unity.SLRemake

😭

[slate flume]

You know what would be hype

FireRate effect

One to speed up, another to slow it down

Like Lightweight/Heavyfooted

-100% fire rate -> +255% fire rate

[restive turret]

Sl remake but with me trying to implement more system and stuff.
Unity prefix cus uh idk

[slate flume]

What do you think about making a fire rate effect

[restive turret]

I don't even know how firerate works

[slate flume]

If green goo can do it, we should be able to as well

[hearty shard]

slimers

[slate flume]

Hi eve

[hearty shard]

ello

[restive turret]

Uh uh

Never checked green goo

I don't even know how half of the systems and stuff works

[slate flume]

Does 1853 even increase fire rate?

No lmao

127 does!

Also yeah it's built-in to attachments already

Syncvar BaseFireRate it'd be peak

[hearty shard]

can we syncvar eve

i actually might go insane

[slate flume]

Hey how's that source gen going

Have you lost it yet

[hearty shard]

um

i have no clue anymore

brain damage happened

i genuinely would wish SecretAPI wasnt a solo project on smth that I'm not really knowledgeable in

[soft turtle]

Looks like he's changing himself

[thin shuttle]

when you drop it's save to NextReviveTime and when you picked up it's get set _nextResurrectTime

[hearty shard]

this but also motivation

i have none of that lmao

[soft turtle]

Oh

[hearty shard]

i just wanna chill and do games ngl

[slate flume]

Real talk

I won't lie
AI saved me a lot of time with source gen

[hearty shard]

gulp

id love to do stuff but

brain fog makes it hard lol

oh well

[slate flume]

Real

[hearty shard]

[slate flume]

Subscribe to ItemBase::OnItemAdded and ItemPickupBase::OnPickupAdded
For the former, increase resurrect time
For the latter, decrease resurrect time

[upper vapor]

Miss Toe?

[grand flower]

clanker wanker

[upper vapor]

crayz phrase

[slate flume]

I'm replacing you with AI

[cyan crown]

😨 🔪

unty

[cyan crown]

btw about the reverb idea we discussed i think earlier today do you think another system that checks how many players inside a room then adjusts its reverb zone. what do you think about this idea?

[grand flower]

You'll need more than one and even then, it just won't be as good

[grand flower]

What's the usecase

[cyan crown]

it basically enhances the in room audio making it dynamic to real time player amount

but outside players that are outside the box will hear the sound normal until they get close or inside the room

[grand flower]

Wouldn't that cause a noticeable change when you get close

[soft turtle]

I joined to idle server XDDD

1 TPS gaming

[grand flower]

rip

[cyan crown]

it will

[warped prairie]

Key point for lore

[grand flower]

What's the downside of keeping it on all the time

[cyan crown]

performance of course but i think it will be better if it only enables 4 zones of the nearest to the player

since it requires doing changes in real time

i don't think i'll start working on audio until i fully add a lot of core systems back

[grand flower]

yeah i'd do that pretty late

I have some ideas on how I'll do it for my game but like, I'm not adding it until I have a base prototype with rounds working

[cyan crown]

same

[dusk tangle]

Can we use a Harmony patch to prevent generators from spawning in the TestRoom?

[grand flower]

probably

might also be able to just delete it from the test room if it's there

and spawn it somewhere else

[tired charm]

you can patch TryGetNextStructure to skip HczTestRoom spawnpoint for generators

[restive turret]

Or just remove the spawnpoint

[tired charm]

i think it will be readded on map generation idk

[restive turret]

No

Before generation remove spawnpoint

That's it

[celest thorn]

Like how can you even tell which room it is

Because the name suggest “doorName”

[restive turret]

Spawnpoint has Room property or something

[celest thorn]

So ig you just test bounds?

[celest thorn]

It doesn’t

It has a string lol

[tired charm]

its based on DistributorSpawnpointBase which has RoomName

[restive turret]

Indeed

Or you could just do this
if (RoomUtils.TryGetRoom(transform.position, out RoomIdentifier room))
{

So yes run after room spawned

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

RoomUtils:

https://tenor.com/view/وداعا-wave-hi-hello-ryan-gosling-gif-17562968

oh slejm has said it aready

[dusk tangle]

[cosmic echo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't PlayerEvents.ChangedItem not get invoked when the player drops the item?
And if so, is there an event that does get invoked when the player not only changes their item but if they drop it as well?

[restive turret]

@carmine prawn yo
(I hope its a right one)
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/339
Can you apply this suggestions (as we not really use this) or should I do that?

[sweet flax]

Drop like the held item?

[cosmic echo]

Yeah

Cuz currently at least from what I remember the event isn't invoked when they drop their held item

Not sure why bc thats still them changing their held item but yk

[celest thorn]

haii chat

[spare zodiac]

is there some way to like parent primitive to another when spawned client sided?

[dusk tangle]

Is it possible to spawn this structure?

[celest thorn]

there's a simple float you can use

[celest thorn]

no

its part of the mesh

[dusk tangle]

[spare zodiac]

simple float?

[celest thorn]

uint sorry

[spare zodiac]

that doesn't help me much

[celest thorn]

bro in the message when you intialize it there's a uint

use that

[upper vapor]

OnSerialize writes the parent id

[celest thorn]

^

[spare zodiac]

lemme check

[celest thorn]

Is it possible to know the fov or what the player is seeing in front of them?

[unique crane]

There are methods to check if player sees specific point/area

if you mean that

[upper vapor]

Do you wanna get all objects in the view frustrum?

[celest thorn]

Yes

So i can just hide them or show them

If the player can see them

[upper vapor]

I think that's a stupid idea

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/boois-rags-cat-eyes-emoji-gif-7704442463942354243

[celest thorn]

Why?

Culling doesn’t work for network identities

[upper vapor]

You wanna prevent client script updates on culled out objects? Otherwise it would be a huge waste (it's still a waste of tps though)

[celest thorn]

Hmmm

Thats true

[upper vapor]

The culling parent disables the GOs so they wouldn't get updated anyway

[celest thorn]

Nvm then

[frail zinc]

Hey, that's normal that we can't get anymore a player using player id ?

[hearty shard]

what

show code

[hearty shard]

has that ever worked

i dont think NW has changed that

[frail zinc]

yes

that's very weird

[restive turret]

use sender

or if you want more use RAUtils

[hearty shard]

what

[frail zinc]

I want to get a specific player using is player id

that's very weird

[hearty shard]

show command usage

as in the ingame console

but also yea RAUtils is decent to use

[restive turret]

parse into int

[hearty shard]

it allows multiple players tho

[restive turret]

otherwise it gets via UserID (like slejmur@northwood)

[frail zinc]

oh yeah fuck

[restive turret]

and not the playerID like 5

[frail zinc]

i'm so stupid, thanks xD

[hearty shard]

oh

lmao

im surprised theres no option to do what RAUtils has

[restive turret]

but i still suggest using RAUtils to select more players

[hearty shard]

slime

what the scallops

[restive turret]

idk

never seen that word

[hearty shard]

ur evil

[restive turret]

says the evil one

[hearty shard]

no im eve

huge difference

[unique crane]

eveil

[celest thorn]

eve is evil
you are goated

[sweet flax]

is fake sync varing heavy for servers network?

[restive turret]

if you do it per frame yes

[upper vapor]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT

[mild ice]

Sure that's nothing to worry about

[celest thorn]

you became administrator???

gg

[hearty shard]

😭

[mild ice]

It's been like 10 months 😭

[celest thorn]

so you changed color

and thats it

because i remember it being less like

red

[mild ice]

Yeah I changed cosmetic roles

[celest thorn]

oh

that explains

[restive turret]

linux issue

[slow grotto]

I look away for a few days, has there already been talk of the dozen plugin submissions to the official site that were most likely AI generated, half of them are for base game features like Ragdoll cleanup and AFK timers. All repos and account created at the same time.

[celest thorn]

fr???

wtf

[upper vapor]

it works on my laptop (same distro)

[celest thorn]

oh my god

the website is flooded

[slow grotto]

Docs in spanish, code is perfect english

[upper vapor]

what the fuck

[celest thorn]

ced you aren't cooking

[slow grotto]

And have the signs of a half-ass attempt at EXILED precompiler but not utilized

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/xuf79k2e.png

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-kitty-sad-cat-cat-cat-meme-gif-10031878163830317345

[celest thorn]

they are using exiled

[restive turret]

can we get rid of them

[celest thorn]

not even labapi

[restive turret]

i mean idc if its exiled

[celest thorn]

can we evoke cedric

[restive turret]

just not be AI gened

[upper vapor]

this is why i support censorship 🥀

the smallest requirement we can make is "have an english readme"

[celest thorn]

LOL

[grand flower]

is it all AI slop

[slow grotto]

But I've never submitted a report...?

[celest thorn]

they are all in spanish

[restive turret]

Exiled is in the labapi thing and others already using it (seen like 3-4 that has that as a dependency)

[celest thorn]

btw

[upper vapor]

and what is this

😭

https://plugins.scpslgame.com/plugin/Voidsprog/QOL-Plugin-Framework

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/MysticProfile/RagdollCleaner/blob/main/RagdollCleaner/EventHandlers.cs

[celest thorn]

Wtf is this

another one

god no

its in spanish

[upper vapor]

we have an event bus

hah

NAHHHHHH

[celest thorn]

ITweak

[unique crane]

https://github.com/MysticProfile/ContainmentBreachTimers/blob/main/ContainmentBreachTimers/EventHandler.cs

jesus

[upper vapor]

real

[celest thorn]

new apple product for tweakers

[unique crane]

This is not AI slop this is giant AI blob

💀

[upper vapor]

the issue with the website is that we can't reach out to people who only post on the website

[celest thorn]

when ai in SCP:SL

[unique crane]

1072 lines

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

NET ID

WHAT

[upper vapor]

await Task.Delay(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(Mathf.Max(0.2f, Config.HudIntervalSeconds)));

[unique crane]

I mean this is obviously AI slop

[upper vapor]

WHY

ARE

OMG
WHAT

WHY TASKS IN LABAPI BUT NOT IN EXILED

like how stupid does one have to be

[celest thorn]

because why not

[celest thorn]

Probably not knowing coding

[upper vapor]

can we just

remove them

entirely

:3

[celest thorn]

ig report it to ced

or security

[restive turret]

ced not the webdev

[hearty shard]

yea all those plugins were created same day lmao

[restive turret]

i think thats uhh

[celest thorn]

I mean he can take them down

[slow grotto]

I tried reporting on the site and I get blocked 🙁

[celest thorn]

100%

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHAHHHAHA

skill issue

[upper vapor]

maybe you did a self report on accident?

[slow grotto]

😲

[upper vapor]

i bet their downloads are themselves

[slow grotto]

https://plugins.scpslgame.com/profile/58 I've got too many downloads to risk AI-ing myself

[celest thorn]

AI

[slow grotto]

NOOOO

[celest thorn]

most obv ai

[upper vapor]

i have a brilliant idea

add infinite scrolling to the plugins website

[celest thorn]

or adding ai to combat ai

[upper vapor]

true

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/MysticProfile/plugins-scp-sl

omg

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/0ndsl5ju.png

[upper vapor]

try not to

mald

[gilded plover]

how 2 despawn items

[upper vapor]

challenge

[gilded plover]

?

[upper vapor]

item.Destroy

[hearty shard]

um

[celest thorn]

Item::Destroy()

[gilded plover]

like all on the map

[hearty shard]

mf copy pasted my plugin

[upper vapor]

if you're talking abouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut pickups

[hearty shard]

and didnt change anything

[celest thorn]

DMCA

DMCA

[slow grotto]

The explicit plugin name tag in the log strings has been a big giveaway of AI in my experience.

[upper vapor]

foreach (var p in Pickup.List.ToArray()) p.Destroy();

or just

run the cleanup command

[hearty shard]

not to be that one

but

this is probably just collections of stolen stuff ngl

[celest thorn]

Eve i beg you

dmca it

[hearty shard]

not even AI, just copy paste

[celest thorn]

who cares

[hearty shard]

or ig both?

[celest thorn]

i think its a mix

[gilded plover]

ty guys

[upper vapor]

n

p

[celest thorn]

Wait

your code was rewritten

its similar

but not exact

its like ai rewrote it

[upper vapor]

why would you copy-paste #if LABAPU await Task.Delay

[celest thorn]

LABAPU

[hearty shard]

well if u cant code youd prob copy paste it

lel

[celest thorn]

1st of april

[slow grotto]

Rename suggestion

[celest thorn]

labapu

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/magyar-karacsony-gergo-pm-christmas-gif-19574605

[celest thorn]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=bPONddpEnBs&si=YZo17YDO5csKzi6q

this is how i feel rn

reading this code

[unique crane]

Can you prove that?

[celest thorn]

the title is perfect

[unique crane]

Ill gladly ban that person if so

[celest thorn]

Please bro

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/MysticProfile/plugins-scp-sl/tree/main/CandyUtilitiesv2 mystic scpsl
https://github.com/NamelessSCP/CandyUtilities/tree/main/CandyUtilities

[unique crane]

Woah

Okay

Thats 1:1

[upper vapor]

skull

[celest thorn]

its A 1:1

translated into spanish

@unique crane bomb the guy

[upper vapor]

they just

"download source code -> zip"

😭

add files via upload

NAHHHh

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-jarvis-nuke-marvel-iron-man-gif-12042104779402153696

[hearty shard]

nvm they changed 1 method

[upper vapor]

this is how i feel

https://jaden-williams-shop.fourthwall.com/en-eur/products/nahhhh-t-shirt

[celest thorn]

crazy

[upper vapor]

if yk yk

[celest thorn]

the name is so ironic

[hearty shard]

My code:

private void OnInteracted(PlayerInteractedScp330EventArgs ev)
    {
        if (ev.AllowPunishment)
        {
            if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(_translation.SeveredText))
                ev.Player.SendHint(_translation.SeveredText, 4);
            return;
        }

        string pickupText = _translation.CandyText.TryGetValue(ev.CandyType, out string candy)
            ? _translation.PickupText.Replace("%type%", candy)
            : string.Empty;
        if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(pickupText))
            ev.Player.SendHint(pickupText, 4);
    }

Theirs:

private void OnInteracted(PlayerInteractedScp330EventArgs ev)
    {
        string pickupText = _translation.CandyText.TryGetValue(ev.CandyType, out string candy)
            ? _translation.PickupText.Replace("%type%", candy)
            : string.Empty;

        int maxCandies = _config.SeverCounts.TryGetValue(ev.Player.Role, out int count)
            ? count
            : _config.GlobalSeverLimit;

        if (maxCandies == Config.SeverLimitDefault)
            maxCandies = 2;

        string maxCandiesText = _translation.MaxCandiesText.Replace("{amount}", maxCandies.ToString());

        if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(pickupText))
            ev.Player.SendHint($"{pickupText}\n{maxCandiesText}", 4);
    }

[celest thorn]

there was a person stealing code named "jade"

[upper vapor]

erm technically i didn't steal it, i was inspired

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

bro i was stolen code from her

[celest thorn]

yea ok no ban then

exact copy but not too exact

[hearty shard]

i mean

it shouldve been a fork lol

[upper vapor]

"yo gpt copy their work but make sure to change it up a little"

[upper vapor]

you can't fork into a repo

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/atulesh-writes-atulesh-gifs-atulesh-peak-writing-shakespeare-peeking-atulesh-gif-10943194106667803764

[upper vapor]

XD

[hearty shard]

also uhhh

im so confused with their code

lmao

[upper vapor]

it's not even pointing at the paper

[upper vapor]

their?

who's they

[hearty shard]

the change they did

mystic

[upper vapor]

WHO'S THEY

[celest thorn]

THEY

[upper vapor]

stfu and listen to this immediately

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QW4llg7FCVw

[celest thorn]

omg

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=6vjVW0g17EI&si=si-MKNFsfX1JYEsw

like thanks youtube music

[hearty shard]

ok yea im 99% sure its all stolen code thats thrown into AI to spice it up ig

lol

[upper vapor]

moshlatt wonderful time

[celest thorn]

for such a banger but its not christmas

[unique crane]

The other method is 1:1

[hearty shard]

yeah

[celest thorn]

judge

tell us

[unique crane]

This is cheap like copying homework from classmates and just renaming variables

[celest thorn]

what you think

[unique crane]

yet he didnt even bother

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/MysticProfile/plugins-scp-sl/tree/main/TextChat-1.2.1/TextChat-1.2.1/TextChat

[unique crane]

well the thing is

[hearty shard]

this too btw

[unique crane]

that plugin isnt posted

is this posted on the plugins?

website

[hearty shard]

i believe the text chat one is

[celest thorn]

they aren't

posted

[unique crane]

Is that Lumi's

[hearty shard]

i thought lumi would have posted it

[hearty shard]

yes

[celest thorn]

at lumi

[unique crane]

XDDDDD

[celest thorn]

please dmca

[hearty shard]

i mean she would

[celest thorn]

we all know lumi would love her code to be stolen with AI

[hearty shard]

she made it clear that if you use her code = she sues you

[upper vapor]

@icy knoll

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24482421

rn

finally making use of AGPL

or

any license

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[celest thorn]

i don't think thye care of the license

[unique crane]

🤔

[celest thorn]

i see a difference

bin and obj

[hearty shard]

bin & obj lmao

[celest thorn]

and the 3 days ago

[upper vapor]

that's why it can be used
DMCA

very shrimple

[celest thorn]

btw you guys should hire

this guy

i think he could code the new scp

and even make the art

[icy knoll]

FINALLY, I HAVE SOMEONE TO DMCA STRIKE

[upper vapor]

and solve world hunger

[celest thorn]

calm down

i think the guy didn't steal

like he added bin and obj

[upper vapor]

😭😭

[celest thorn]

like thats obv he made it

[slow grotto]

Transformative use

[icy knoll]

still not allowed?

lol

[celest thorn]

nah he made it trust

its just a coincidence

that the code is the same

and the names are the same

[celest thorn]

i would say yours sucks because it doesn't have the bin and obj that adds more to the repo

more useless weight

btw why tf every month there's someone that steals from others

[upper vapor]

every month?

https://tenor.com/view/jános-lázár-eyebrow-raise-wink-gif-15358106

[celest thorn]

like its happening so often

it seems every month

[unique crane]

My verdict

[celest thorn]

banned :3

[slow grotto]

Cause we need a 4th Discord integration plugin

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805416872962818078/1338851649606651946/execution.gif

[upper vapor]

i read "4 dimensional plugin"

[celest thorn]

we need a 5th copy of the same one

[celest thorn]

DAMN

thats crazy

[upper vapor]

"oopsie woopsie i miscwicked uwu sowwyyyyy :33"

[slow grotto]

Why create a pull request when you can fork it and claim it as your own

[celest thorn]

maybe lets not start having people with "I love you" choice

in the discord

[upper vapor]

fork the parent and kill children

[unique crane]

Wait he didnt post the textchat either

uhhhhhhhhh

[celest thorn]

yea i said that

but its ai slop

we all know you can do something

we want blood

[upper vapor]

you mean

sparks?

[hearty shard]

i mean i was just looking into em

but yeah i dont think any of them are his

[icy knoll]

do we know who the discord user of this person? or an email I can contact?

[celest thorn]

we want to munch like ghidra

[hearty shard]

nope

[celest thorn]

no

it seems obv

the answer was no

[hearty shard]

its prob a throwaway account lmao

[celest thorn]

yea i created it guys

trust me

[icy knoll]

I'll have to send a strike then yeah

[celest thorn]

||(for legal reason i didn't create it)||

[icy knoll]

I was gunna be nice and dm them but ig not lol

[celest thorn]

you and nice is crazy

while talking about stolen code

parsed through ai

[icy knoll]

slander

[icy knoll]

huh

[celest thorn]

the code was translated in spanish

so 100% your code got into ai

to translate it in spanish

[icy knoll]

idc if it's in AI now or anything, my code is on github, all I care about is people using it without the right license

[celest thorn]

ig

[upper vapor]

i'm going insaneeeeeeeee

[unique crane]

So there is 2

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-black-cat-meme-gif-24606499

[unique crane]

I guess thats enough reason to suspect that others are stolen too

[celest thorn]

just start drinking bro

[unique crane]

Ram shake

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1466082929749786676/togif.gif

[celest thorn]

battery acid

[upper vapor]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

me when i run out of memory during the debugging session because unity hogs it all up

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-gif-15584337813234156156

[upper vapor]

DO NOT SEARCH UP "SHAKE RAM" ON TENOR

[unique crane]

You ate it*

[slow grotto]

I've been working on a plugin/system that monitors plugin behaviour, guess I'll have to find a way to add a plagiarism check.

[celest thorn]

there's just speed

[upper vapor]

ooooh

[slow grotto]

"If contains Lumi's code => SUE"

[upper vapor]

governmeownt here

could you tell me more about that

[celest thorn]

tell you about what?

[upper vapor]

that uhh

[celest thorn]

your government?

[upper vapor]

monitoring system

[celest thorn]

it sucks

like mine

[slow grotto]

Telemetry capture, live decompile and flame-graph capture. And throw them at some AV engines for good luck.

I'm on my like 4th rewrite so not much to show right now. But it has worked.

[upper vapor]

hmmmmmmmmm

telemetry

i mean

khm

the uhhhh

ye

[unique crane]

I dont think your gonna go far with that like

[slow grotto]

Want to find a better way than Harmony patching prefix-finalizer on every hot path, but it works with minimal overhead

[unique crane]

What your gonna do?

scan whole github?

[upper vapor]

me omw to attach dotMemory to my local debuggable server build

[celest thorn]

what happens if i eat ram?

[unique crane]

Just build the server locally in editor

for debugging

lol

[upper vapor]

ye

i did

[celest thorn]

too hard

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-protogen-ram-해장국-gif-12439874978250671003

like that?

[celest thorn]

no more like this

https://tenor.com/view/watercoasting-gif-9834191338382762098

because now i cannot afford food

after i bought half of a stick of ram

[slow grotto]

I was working with static analysis of the decompiled dll, and throwing it into a test vm. But going to go the crowdsource route and give server owners alerts when a plugin's event handler is taking half their TPS. Then steal the telemetry for my own gains

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[upper vapor]

Cinema

[celest thorn]

ok maybe i did a bad choice

[upper vapor]

Dakple my goat

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-meme-gif-16107418

[unique crane]

So your rely on SL servers installing your plugins?

[upper vapor]

yes

plugin can't load?

now the kernel can't load

[slow grotto]

Or I could just push it into LabAPI...

[celest thorn]

is Siren (lucid) gonna light beam me?

[upper vapor]

gotta make sure your plugins are not vulnerable yt

[unique crane]

🤨

[celest thorn]

thats insane

i hope you get a crowd strike incident

[unique crane]

Can someone send me exiled discord link

[celest thorn]

ok

[unique crane]

I wanna look if that guy posted his work there or something