plugins-dev-chat

[sweet flax]

its fixed?

[tulip kiln]

Found this https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/WaitForSecondsRealtime.html

[soft depot]

yea I fixed UsedItem a while ago

so it's always called when you're using an item

[sweet flax]

i didint see on BugReports so i was thinking it was still broken

[restive turret]

it has a bug report

i can pull here

[sweet flax]

wasnt it OnUsingItemCompleted?

[soft depot]

I think that was also changed as part of it

or actually no

honestly

[sweet flax]

just checked its still not fixed

[soft depot]

that event is really niche and specific

[restive turret]

this one is the other i dont know the part of you using rn

[soft depot]

yea because there's nothing to fix, whatever you're attempting shouldnt use that event

[sweet flax]

adrenaline e.g

[soft depot]

^^^^^^^^

[sweet flax]

i think it should use this event

since its an item and its use has been completed

[soft depot]

well what's even the problem then

[restive turret]

I love naot 🔥

[sweet flax]

https://discord.com/channels/656673194693885975/1237333320065355786 still this

and what would happen if i updated my harmony to 2.4.2 and still use exiled it would break or smth or is there no breaking changes?

[soft depot]

there shouldn't be any issues with harmony

[restive turret]

ye just dont downgrade to 1.0

[celest thorn]

can you check if a word is banend on this discord?

im curious lol

[upper vapor]

try it and see

lucid will not be very happy about it though

[celest thorn]

yaoi

Its not banned

i saw in another discord someone getting smited

so i wanted to see

[soft depot]

here are the docs for the event, the adrenaline triggering is just because of how it's coded

        /// <summary>
        /// Invoked before a <see cref="API.Features.Player"/> finishes using a <see cref="API.Features.Items.Usable"/>. In other words, it is invoked after the animation finishes but before the <see cref="API.Features.Items.Usable"/> is actually used.
        /// </summary>

if you want an event for when a player's receiving effects from a consumable and that doesnt exist already, then make a suggestion

[sweet flax]

isnt the adrenaline a consumable which is usable?

[soft depot]

yea, but it's coded so you receive the AHP from it like 10% into the consumption animation

whereas for a medkit, you only get the HP once the consumable is forcibly removed from your inventory, which can be denied by UsingItemCompleted

[sweet flax]

they both use OnEffectsActivated

[soft depot]

mhm

[sweet flax]

oh i see

[sweet flax]

can i use in exiled when making a pr codematcher or its a no no

[soft depot]

codematcher doesnt support pooled lists so no

also each new instance of a codematcher literally copies the code instructions from the instructions provided

now if the codematcher was made a little smarter (with less fields and properties defaulting to new values and such) then I might've been able to set the private readonly fields for the instructions, but alas, it's all really inconvenient

it's also likely slower performance too

[thin shuttle]

Someone fixed it it's kinda annoying lol

[cyan crown]

🔥

[restive turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431901717429354500/1432496594640568320/watermark.gif

[burnt hearth]

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/developer-we-have-a-bug-gif-9159002844106963379

[slate flume]

I use the latest Harmony

Why, do you not?

Oh you're an Exiled user nvm

Yeah I don't use Exiled personally

I keep my shit on lock and up-to-date

-# (whenever I remember to check for updates)

[sweet flax]

I updated it

[slate flume]

Epic

I've been telling people not to cling to old dependencies

[slate flume]

Use Harmony Patches on Harmony to make it support pooled lists

Actually I wonder how possible that is

It would be very ironic

I like codematcher cause imo it's easier to read and to work with
It's not really that different from just changing the instructions yourself, and it's probably a bit less optimized, and it has some quirks, but it makes things easy
Maybe i should just make my own CodeMatcher

I actually don't think it'd be incredibly difficult to make something for my use cases cause I absolutely do not use like 90% of the CodeMatcher library

[upper vapor]

Maybe i should just make my own CodeMatcher

perhaps

and waaaa the codematcher is slower by like 4 microseconds

like it matters upon startup

-# sucks to have a 100+ patches

[celest thorn]

Lets create more pools

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[upper vapor]

I read "let's create more people"

Let's not do that

[celest thorn]

Damn

i would be down

[restive turret]

[worn gull]

You don't want children?

[upper vapor]

No

They're annoying

The world is underpopulated and overpopulated at the same time

[slate flume]

Double it and give it to the next person lmao

[vast canopy]

implement isshooting in labapi 👏

[hearty shard]

😭

[hearty shard]

Pr it

[vast canopy]

@slate flume

[slate flume]

I don't think they'd like my solution lmao

[vast canopy]

i still didnt see it so yeah

[slate flume]

Generally LabAPI isn't going to implement complex mechanics that require things like coroutines or components

Especially for minor features

[upper vapor]

NAH 😭

[worn gull]

One of my old classmate is pregnant 💀💀💀 (19 yrs old)

[upper vapor]

Really investing in that adókedvezmény

[thin shuttle]

i am curious of how much patch people generally have

[upper vapor]

The median is maybe 2 (if we count patches per plugin)

[thin shuttle]

I mean per server

[upper vapor]

Uh

No idea

[thin shuttle]

like all plugin count

newInstructions[^1].labels.Add(returnLabel);
newInstructions[newInstructions.Count - 1].labels.Add(returnLabel);
what people prefere between this two line ?

i found ^1 or ..1 or 1.. pretty hard to get

when you reading code

[upper vapor]

Skill issue

[thin shuttle]

honnestly ?

when will this be fixed

[worn gull]

I would rather do adócsalás then having a child

[worn gull]

If somebody buys a plugin from me I will not tax it

Just don't tell it to Nemzeti Adó és Vámhivatal

[upper vapor]

Mega troll

[upper vapor]

Probably less than 2 years

[restive turret]

When a definitely non complicated pr gets merged

[slate flume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-almost-ready-alien

[upper vapor]

Glorp

[hearty shard]

its time to be evil

[soft depot]

I knew you were always evil

[hearty shard]

yes

this is what happens

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[sweet flax]

is there a way to get position of the third person model of players current item?

[sinful bronze]

heyo plugin dudes

can i kill player with Particle Disruptor without it

like with command using

[hearty shard]

wat

[sinful bronze]

simulate vaporization

[hearty shard]

oh

yes

not with a command afaik

but with a plugin you can make it without a disruptor i believe

[sinful bronze]

yeah i try to do that

but i cant find method for this

[hearty shard]

disruptor damage handler

[sinful bronze]

guh

[hearty shard]

nvm i lied you do need a disruptor for the damage handler

[sinful bronze]

im stupid

thx

fuck

i will check

[hearty shard]

Kill(new DisruptorDamageHandler(new DisruptorShotEvent(Item.Create(ItemType.ParticleDisruptor, attacker).Base as InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Firearm, DisruptorActionModule.FiringState.FiringSingle), Vector3.up, -1))

^EXILED

[sinful bronze]

for exiled i know

cuz i made this before

but now im a labapi suicide enjoyer

[hearty shard]

but yea its this

[sinful bronze]

i will call to my disruptor

[soft turtle]

!csg

[regal lake]

https://scpslgame.com/csg

[halcyon folio]

That looks like a mess to read

[static meteor]

I do this

        public static void Vaporize(this Player player, Player? attacker = null)
        {
            if (!InventoryItemLoader.TryGetItem(ItemType.ParticleDisruptor, out ParticleDisruptor disruptor))
                return;

            if (attacker != null)
                disruptor.Owner = attacker.ReferenceHub;

            DisruptorShotEvent shotEvent = new(disruptor, DisruptorActionModule.FiringState.FiringSingle);
            DisruptorDamageHandler damageHandler = new(shotEvent, Vector3.up, -1);
            player.ReferenceHub.playerStats.KillPlayer(damageHandler);
        }

[sweet flax]

Bump

[celest thorn]

Wtf i do check this fucking channel and see this

[restive turret]

curse

[worn gull]

Welcome to plugins dev chat

[celest thorn]

[hearty shard]

Curse you

[celest thorn]

nvm

[hearty shard]

Brainrot

@soft depot what do you even do

outside exiled

[soft depot]

School

[hearty shard]

damn ....

[soft depot]

Tria.os (Roblox parkour game)

[hearty shard]

quit school

[soft depot]

That’s about it

[soft depot]

But then I stop learning…

[hearty shard]

Good

Go eat grass

Become a cow

[soft depot]

I’m in my senior year so I’m boutta head to college as well

Why do you ask tho?

[hearty shard]

Curious

see you around but never rly knew what you did

[soft depot]

Would rather become an eepy car and eep around all day

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shark-blahaj-ikea-shark-gif-27032111

[soft depot]

Apparently I do a lot of stupid stuff here

[hearty shard]

no!

[restive turret]

Real

[hearty shard]

This is blåhajphobia

[hearty shard]

YOU

[soft depot]

No it’s just a car eeping a shark plushie

[hearty shard]

no!

[soft depot]

Why can’t I be a car 🥺

[hearty shard]

blåhajphobia

[hearty shard]

Become a cow.

Go moo

[soft depot]

That’s one crazy request 😭

Not quite my style though

[hearty shard]

No!

https://tenor.com/view/yoongi-yoongi-cat-cow-yoongi-cat-cuddlypupkoo-gif-2082811315027326632

what

why did it

i did not see there was 2 images in that one

[soft depot]

Sounds like krill issue

I want to be eepy car like this lady

[hearty shard]

No!

[soft depot]

Yes!

[hearty shard]

Awh :(

[soft depot]

hehe

[hearty shard]

what is happening in vc

it looks gay

[soft depot]

maro is getting some content for marketing meow editor

[hearty shard]

Damn

im feeling

Hateful

[slate flume]

How does SL perform the check with SpeakerToy.MaxDistance to determine if a player can hear a SpeakerToy?

I'm having occasional issues where players are getting the AudioMessage in their ears because the SpeakerToy is out of range instead of hearing it from the Speaker

Wait hm

The problem is culling

If MaxDistance produces a volume and it's outside the range where the SpeakerToy is culled, it sends it right in the ears

How do I fix this

I don't want the client culling the SpeakerToy

[soft depot]

I don't think client would ever cull a speaker toy unless it was the child of a culling toy

[slate flume]

Then why is it that sending a message from SpeakerToys that are far away causes the audio to be played in the ears as if the SpeakerToy didn't exist

[soft depot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate flume]

The only explanation is culling afaik

@soft depot Called it

Okay well I know what I have to do now

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-fake-false-fact-checked-fact-gif-3692826964065029091

[slate flume]

Still don't know how to fix this though

[sinful bronze]

Three steps to

[soft depot]

Well clearly the client is supposed to handle culled speakers somehow, iirc I think the client will ignore sound messages of the speaker is out of range. I guess try to leverage that

[slate flume]

It obviously doesn't lmao

You're seeing the result of a speaker being culled

The audio message still gets transmitted to the player

This is like the whole problem I've been outlining and documenting

[slate flume]

Literally right here

I apologize for the bluntness but so far you have given me multiple comments that, to the best of my understanding, are entirely wrong, and I'm trying to find an earnest solution to this problem

I'm unsure if the culling is based on the MaxDistance of a SpeakerToy or a different factor

Would that mean there's a max MaxDistance?

[upper vapor]

Lolcow

Ludwig mentioned?(

[upper vapor]

I agree

[upper vapor]

It does, coz unity doesn't mute it after MaxDistance due to the logarithmic scale

You'd think the scale adjusts to max distance automatically

But don't expect anything meaningful from unity

[upper vapor]

Could you send a video? I don't think I've experienced this before

[slate flume]

I'll have to see if I can find the clip

I was sent this clip (warning: very loud)
The context is that I added an additional explosion sound to explosions spawning
Usually the volume is nowhere near this loud because it's all spatial, and I haven't been able to replicate this

Now I assumed that it was loud because the SpeakerToy is being culled and causing the audio to no longer be spatial

It only happened 1/2 times at a distance like that

I was thinking maybe the issue was my code having a mismatch with how the game determines whether or not to cull a SpeakerToy
I base it on player position, but maybe it has to do with a player's camera position?
Causing something like this

My hope is to learn what the game's criteria is for culling SpeakerToys, and if my code matches that, then the problem is something else to do with loudness

[upper vapor]

at what point does it become "not spatial"

or like

what

[slate flume]

Literally no clue

You know about as much as I do atp

[slate flume]

I just know this happened when it shouldn't

And it happens at a specific distance

[upper vapor]

so can you explain the issue in monke terms
cuz what i concluded that you can't heart the speaker beyond some point

[slate flume]

SpeakerToy has MaxDistance
I check MaxDistance before sending AudioMessage to make sure player can actually hear the SpeakerToy and it isn't culled
I send AudioMessage, but for some reason, the SpeakerToy appears to have been culled by the client, and it causes the AudioMessage to play right in a person's ear

It only happens at a specific distance, seemingly barely out of range of the player

[upper vapor]

to make sure player can actually hear the SpeakerToy and it isn't culled
technically you don't need that but it does save decoding time

play right in a person's ear

this is crazy

[slate flume]

I do because if the SpeakerToy is culled it plays in a person's ear

True story

At least afaik

[upper vapor]

do you have duplicate controller IDs per chance?

[slate flume]

No

No shot

[upper vapor]

are you fake syncing positions or anything fancy like that?

[slate flume]

Nope

[upper vapor]

-# i bet this wouldn't be an issue if you used SecretLabNAudio

[slate flume]

This is my best guess as to what happened

[upper vapor]

can you show your speaker setup code

[slate flume]

Like what I do when I create the speaker?

[upper vapor]

ye

unity shouldn't "un-spatialize" it beyond x distance

[slate flume]

I just assumed it un-spatialized because it's playing in a person's ear
It could just be the position the client thinks it at is a local 0,0,0 because the SpeakerToy is culled

[upper vapor]

you would just hear it fading out slowly
SL doesn't "enqueue" the samples if the speaker is past max distance

[upper vapor]

that would mean "pan" would be set to 1

like it doesn't make sense

[slate flume]

Wdym

[upper vapor]

from a spatial perspective it's like it gets put to the right of the player

[slate flume]

This is the video

It appears to me the sound eminates from the player's position, instead of where the explosion happened

[upper vapor]

what if you don't spawn it in Create, set network props and then spawn
it would probably not change anything but worth a try

[slate flume]

This is the same phenomenon that happened before if I sent a player an AudioMessage with an out-of-range SpeakerToy

If a SpeakerToy is out of range, and you send an AudioMessage from it to the client, the sound comes from the player

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

Ong

[upper vapor]

i'll try to reproduce it on my own when i get home but could you make a minimal example

[slate flume]

I experienced it when I first set up SCP Prox Chat
I assumed SpeakerToys being out of range would mean the client would automatically not hear the message but instead the audio was produced right in their ears

[vast canopy]

Every time i open that chat i see some theories from thatguy

I love to read them

[slate flume]

Just create a SpeakerToy, go to a different zone, play some audio, and send it to the player

[upper vapor]

the client would automatically not hear the message
yeah that should be what's happening

[upper vapor]

try not to kill SL challenge

[slate flume]

Not sure what you use for playing audio but I have my own API so what I use for playing audio is gonna be slightly different than you

But it's a minor difference tbf

[slate flume]

It's new shit every day

I'm constantly finding new problems that baffle people

And it's making me lose my mind slowly

[vast canopy]

I still didnt test ur api

[upper vapor]

sad

[vast canopy]

Its hard to integrate it in mine api

[upper vapor]

if you check <null>

oh wow

thanks github

https://youtu.be/6btaXm3BU8s
the surface speakers have the same controller id, and if you really listen, the outside speakers get a bit out of sync if you go past their maxdistance
but no spatial issues

[upper vapor]

can you elaborate?

[upper vapor]

i'll check if this happens with fully unique speaker controller Ids

[slate flume]

^ could just be this

[upper vapor]

i can say with a 99.9% certainty that your code is not responsible for the issue\

[slate flume]

YES

Hell yeah!

Love to hear it

I love knowing I'm not the problem

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

I'm setting up an example atm

👍🏻

[upper vapor]

it would be funny if you couldn't reproduce it

unity 💞

also, whoever wrote this had an interesting approach to the problem

[slate flume]

HOLY SHIT AM I RIGHT

[slate flume]

NO FUCKING WAY

I'm a legend

[upper vapor]

client desync ig

[slate flume]

Nah it's the difference between camera and player positions

[upper vapor]

right

[slate flume]

When I check position I use the player's position, not the player's camera position

[upper vapor]

you usedt the player's gameobject's pos

[slate flume]

[upper vapor]

ugh

but if they don't receive the AudioMessage

why would they hear the audio

[slate flume]

They do

[upper vapor]

0.001 units off

=

cooked

[slate flume]

Crazy how that small of a difference makes a huge change

Ideally this bug wouldn't have been found if culled SpeakerToys didn't blast audio in people's ears lmao

[upper vapor]

even then, australian players will still face the issue

[slate flume]

The really interesting thing is every publicly available prox chat plugin I've seen (or similar plugins) don't use camera position for speakertoy validation

[waxen kayak]

we are turning sl to the nextroblox

[upper vapor]

genuinely no clue how not playing it would have the audio source play in the right ear

[slate flume]

It is playing

[unique crane]

We have no plans for ImageToy as of now

[slate flume]

I'm confused

Culling doesn't prevent a player from receiving AudioMessages from a SpeakerToy

They still get the messages and have to interpret it, and it interprets that from the local 0,0,0

Because the SpeakerToy is culled

[upper vapor]

damn i love kernel pannics

[upper vapor]

microslop edge on mobile

[slate flume]

I'm almost certain Zer0two's suggestion here is written by AI

[upper vapor]

about /_\s?

yes

also love how decoding is duplicated

per speaker

[slate flume]

Like lmao dude are we deadass

[icy knoll]

it's AI generated

i doubt bro even knows what the em dash is used for, so yeah

[slate flume]

Also triangle primitive doesn't automatically mean things are fixed, we'd need to add vertex positioning to actually make arbitrary meshes

[upper vapor]

EXACTLY

[slate flume]

If it's the same as all the other primitives then it's not gonna do anything

Really what we need is vertex positioning for the existing quads

[upper vapor]

and when i ask "how are you gonna make an arbitrary mesh"
the response is "you're just a hater" and "this argument is pointless"

[icy knoll]

someone bought to use 1000000000 triangle primitives to build smth and then complains that their server and game crashes on round start btw

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[slate flume]

Based

That's how it should be

[upper vapor]

crash the game before the player joins the server

[slate flume]

(It's really easy to convert meshes to arbitrary quads)

Free blender extensions exist for it

[slate flume]

Can't have bugs if there's no players to find them

[upper vapor]

yeah but you'd need to distort a uniform quad for that, which is either not possible or invonlves a shit ton of math

[upper vapor]

genius

[waxen kayak]

just allow players import custom prefab

[upper vapor]

no.

[waxen kayak]

boom all problem gone

[slate flume]

It's not that simple

How do you relay that information to the clients?

[upper vapor]

probably uhhh

steam workshop

at that point SL would just be gmod

[waxen kayak]

roblox

[upper vapor]

ew

[slate flume]

Exactly

SL is not adding steam workshop support
The experience they're looking for is not like GMod where you spend 5 years loading assets when joining a server, it's as plug-and-play as possible

[upper vapor]

i'll say this again
if you can import arbitrary meshes, that erases the art style of using primitives
arguably, making schematics with primitives is tedious and time consuming, but you (and others) will be much more proud of your work

[waxen kayak]

move anticheat to server side and dont use il2cpp on client

[upper vapor]

XDD

[waxen kayak]

so that we can mod client

[upper vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1202272256718557235/1317802854240616448/togif.gif

[slate flume]

That's not how il2cpp works big dog

Not using IL2CPP is not going to allow us to mod the client lmao

[waxen kayak]

hmm

[slate flume]

IL2CPP gets flack from modders because it's harder to work with after it's been built, it doesn't actually change what we have access to

[slate flume]

Also some elements of the anticheat are server-sided

👍🏻

[waxen kayak]

i mean
remove sl-ac.dll and allow us use harmony on client

[unique crane]

Haha

Nice one

[upper vapor]

this is not minecraft 😭

judt

just

make your own game

[icy knoll]

ah yes

[unique crypt]

or fork off gmod breach and mod your own stuff

[icy knoll]

let's make it possible to do the actual impossible

[slate flume]

"Allow us to use harmony on client" is not how that works dawg

[icy knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[slate flume]

You have a very large misunderstanding of what is possible and what platforms do to make their games moddable

[unique crypt]

there's a fixed up breach on the workshop that works just fine on latest gmod

[waxen kayak]

😨

[unique crypt]

i like how SS14 does stuff

[unique crane]

Peak was SL in Pavlov VR

[upper vapor]

run sudo dnf upgrade
laptop restarts mid-upgrade

[slate flume]

Even games like Roblox don't allow you to modify whatever code you want arbitrarily, they send scripts to the client that work within the constraints of what Roblox allows

Every moddable game has a set of constraints you have to work within

[upper vapor]

you know the most shocking thing you can do when modding a game is...

[icy knoll]

plus if we allowed execution of code on the client... uh yeah that would be a fucking massive XSS nightmare and the game would get pulled from steam

[waxen kayak]

soo we send lua code to client and client run it

[upper vapor]

we would add RCE as an actual feature

[icy knoll]

i dont think you know anything about security

[upper vapor]

(has happened in many many other projects)

[unique crane]

We talked about it 500 times

[icy knoll]

so maybe let go of your dreams this time around

[unique crane]

There is no way to differentiate mod and cheat

If it was on workshop

And malicious code

[upper vapor]

if it was anywhere tbh 😭

[waxen kayak]

hm

but i want to show image on client😭

[icy knoll]

why 😭

[slate flume]

This argument is poor

[waxen kayak]

show sex image（just kidding）

[icy knoll]

and that's not allowed under the CSG

😭

[unique crane]

One of the reasons why we are not considering it

Not the main one, but yea

[icy knoll]

ah yes let's give more work to our already overworked s&c specialists

[slate flume]

The real reason SL doesn't have workshop support is because the way it was designed didn't have it in mind, and it'd be hard to add it retroactively
Claiming it's because there's no way to distinguish mods and cheats is wild and heavy hyperbole

[unique crypt]

I still remember when my gmod suddenly showed a 2d goatse overlay as soon as I loaded into a map 💀 💀 💀

I think it was Glue Library on gmod's workshop whose author had a change of heart

[upper vapor]

1. quads
2. text toy

[unique crypt]

and added this stuff in

[waxen kayak]

1.stuck the games
2.low resolution

[upper vapor]

skill issue

don't have high res images then

[unique crypt]

Is there a image converter to text toy

[slate flume]

Which one is better optimized?

[upper vapor]

not that i'm aware of

[upper vapor]

no clue

[slate flume]

Thinking I should remake the entire map out of primitives

I forget, was there a release date stated for DisplayKit stuff?
Is it whenever 15.0 drops?

[unique crane]

15.0 is our target yes

[sharp hedge]

displaykit?

is that going to be like PMER 2.0 or something

[obtuse spruce]

UI Building with unity native components smth like that

[sharp hedge]

oh

even better

[obtuse spruce]

No more complexe interface system

the first plugin to release using displaykit is to display video on the screen directly i swear

[slate flume]

PMER is a LabAPI plugin, Northwood is not affiliated with it

[sharp hedge]

i am aware yes

i was asking if it was something like that

letting plugin developers make things that isnt just code

[slate flume]

Oh

Yeah not happening

Lmao

Quite outlandish

[sharp hedge]

very sad

[slate flume]

I want displaykit so all the hintmanagers become obsolete

[soft turtle]

Where is Scp1509DamageHandler?

[icy knoll]

are your references updated?

[soft turtle]

Yep

[restive turret]

It is both .
Since it doesnt designed in mind that client should have mods it wouldn't be viable to do this. Even IF workshop support be added it would be server sided. But it would end up same as Oxygen Not Included or PlateUp! where they upload dlls and stuff, which would be much harder to manage what can and cant be uploaded.
And many security check would be required both place (upload & download) so you arent just gonna remove stuff or exfiliate someone's server data, or grt the verkey or whatever

[thin shuttle]

InventorySystem.Items.Scp1509

[restive turret]

Also while many server using their own plugins and they never gonna upload it in public, it is still would be less reason to have it imo.

[thin shuttle]

security check could be leave to Steam

[restive turret]

Well yea but even if steam checks my funny dll it could still can do damage

[upper vapor]

Visual studio users try to have proper autocomplete challenge

[unique crane]

Works for me /shrug

[upper vapor]

Might be outdated references

[thin shuttle]

yeah that the point of any Mod

like Hoi4 modding

[thin shuttle]

this is kinda average noise of an explosion at that distance

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

in real life

[ashen quiver]

Guys somebody know why when it´s round ended the ff in the RA seems activate but when u try to shoot a teammate they can´t deal damage?

[icy knoll]

does the log appear at the right time?

[hearty shard]

Rats

[ashen quiver]

Yeah

[vast canopy]

rats

How I can make collider ignore bullets but not pickups?

[celest thorn]

<3

[celest thorn]

Ehm there's a specific LayerMask for that

let me find it for you

[vast canopy]

I tried IgnoreRaycasts and InvisibleCollider

[celest thorn]

there's not one ig

[unique crane]

I don't think we have layer for that

[vast canopy]

[celest thorn]

[unique crane]

Wait

We do

Fence

[vast canopy]

that

unexpected answer ngl

[celest thorn]

Fence????

lol???

Why?

[unique crane]

Hcz clutter fence

You can shoot through it

But it blocks pickups

[celest thorn]

Thats crazy

[vast canopy]

i gonna test it.. its really funny

[tired tinsel]

Wait why am i here

[vast canopy]

thats... works..

🐀

[celest thorn]

Yippe

[vast canopy]

so about cringy rats

[celest thorn]

AWWWW

Military ratttt

Chonky rat

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[worn gull]

Hey, is it possible to spawn a custom generator?

[celest thorn]

yes

Just spawn the prefab

[worn gull]

Ah nice

Alr

[celest thorn]

if i remember you need to do that

and thats it

[soft depot]

@slate flume you seeing is? Is that… code that handles culled speaker toys and validates if you can receive an audio message based off if you’re in range of the speaker??? (In case you forgot, you said that the client “obviously doesnt handle culled speaker toys” but uhhhh ^^^^^^)

[cyan crown]

frence?

😨

🇫🇷

[unique crane]

No

Fence

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888515692628946954/1445821798116757525/Doakes_wtf.gif

Fence

[rose basalt]

can i have it sir.

[hearty shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/675727315451379712/1407923711687790622/Tumblr_l_425240804388868.gif

[thin shuttle]

always has been @unique crane

[static meteor]

I dont even remember where I have it anymore

[rose basalt]

oh

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-pet-hamster-crying-hamster-wiping-tears-with-hamster-crying-gif-25381682

[thin shuttle]

https://exmod-team.github.io/EXILED/api/Exiled.API.Enums.LayerMasks.html

@cyan crown^ all layer

@vast canopy ^ if you want all layer

[vast canopy]

man

where u have been

[thin shuttle]

?

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/boois-rags-cat-eyes-emoji-gif-7704442463942354243

[vast canopy]

if i add custom component to pickup, then pick them and drop

will component stay?

every time im writing questions here i feel dumb

[hearty shard]

i dont believe so

[restive turret]

no

it removes the pickup

[upper vapor]

^^^

[serene vine]

@strong lagoon hiya, just an fyi, we do not allow posts regarding hires

[hearty shard]

guh?

[thin shuttle]

Nope that why people generally use Serial for keeping track of item

[vast canopy]

more dictionaries with components...

[thin shuttle]

The Item get destroyed when drop

[vast canopy]

[thin shuttle]

And pickup get destroyed when pickedup

But there way to deal with it

With OnAddedItem

And OnRemovedItem

[hollow remnant]

Who is the ReferenceHub? speaker or the listener?

[hearty shard]

just use the labapi event

i believe there is one

[hollow remnant]

I just wanted to make it so that person "A" could hear person "B" and person "C" couldn't hear them

[hearty shard]

uh yeah

labapi event

[hollow remnant]

okaaay

[hearty shard]

also i think VoiceMessage is for Speakers

or is it not

i dont remember

[hollow remnant]

What event do I need?

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Events/Arguments/PlayerEvents/PlayerReceivingVoiceMessageEventArgs.cs

[strong lagoon]

My bad

[hearty shard]

i would like to hire eve as eve manager

[hollow remnant]

thx :3

[upper vapor]

"i wanna speak to your manager"
"i am my manager"

[hearty shard]

yes :D

[serene vine]

No worries!

[hearty shard]

noemi r u real

[hollow remnant]

Does InventorySystem.InventoryExtensions.OnItemAdded include item pickups or not?

[hearty shard]

@upper vapor why r u a cheeseburger

[pallid galleon]

Is there a list of all kick reasons I can find?

I noticed in the event args the reason is just a string

[hearty shard]

i mean a player can be kicked by staff for any reason

[pallid galleon]

I mean like vanilla, built in reasons. I.e. AFK

[hearty shard]

ya my point was just thats why its a string

[pallid galleon]

I get that

Just don't know all the reasons lol

[hearty shard]

idk the defined kick reasons tho

you could check what afk detection does

[icy knoll]

AFK just kicks for AFK unless defined differently

[slate flume]

All I can tell and show you is my experience dude
I'm telling you that I've had situations where culling causes the audio to play in the person's ear
I even showed you a CLIP OF THIS ACTIVELY HAPPENING
Idk what your problem is or why you don't believe me but you're literally dismissing the fact that I have any kind of issue at all and you should get the stick out of your ass

I apologize for being blunt and confrontational but I don't know what you want me to say
I'm telling you and showing you I have an issue and you're taking every opportunity to dismiss it as if the issue doesn't exist and I don't get why you're doing that

[slate flume]

Also all this shows is that culling is happening, it doesn't show how that culling is handled, idk why you're saying this proves your point

I already know SpeakerToy culling was happening, that's the damn problem in the first place

[hearty shard]

Guh

[tulip kiln]

I'll interrupt the drama for a second cause I need to know which base-game object would be best suited for a CancelWIth statement in order to kill a coroutine should a round be restarted during its execution thanks

[slate flume]

Round.IsStarted?

[hearty shard]

huh

Server.Host.GameObject

[hearty shard]

CancelWith needs a gameobject

On that gameobject dying -> stop the coroutine

i usually do the server host

[tulip kiln]

Thanks

[slate flume]

CancelWith for a coroutine cancels when a boolean returns false

[hearty shard]

mmmm

that might be a different method

never used that one

[tulip kiln]

It will run before the round starts, so it needs to react to the possibility of an admin initiated round restart

[hearty shard]

ik CancelWith has a gameobject parameter that you can have the coroutine stop with

[tulip kiln]

host object will be fine

[slate flume]

I've never passed a game object into cancel with I'll be real w/ you

[hearty shard]

Timing.RunCoroutine(UpdateStatusTimed(), Segment.RealtimeUpdate, Server.Host?.GameObject);

old code, but afaik it hasnt changed

[slate flume]

What's the difference between checking that the host exists and checking NetworkServer.isActive

[hearty shard]

well the thing above is for a gameobject

So gameobject death = kill coroutine

[slate flume]

Oh interesting
When I've used cancel with I've done
Timing.RunCoroutine(Routine().CancelWith(...))

[hearty shard]

tldr imagine on the Death event of a player, doing something
OR do a while loop and constantly check if player died every frame

[hearty shard]

Tbf this time i provided it directly to the coroutine run, and not as an added

Timing.RunCoroutine(DoExplosion(player).CancelWith(player.GameObject));

thats another example

[slate flume]

Yeah but
Server.Host?.GameObject's implicit cast to boolean tells you if the host player exists
NetworkServer.isActive tells you if the server is online or something

Is there any difference between those? Or would they be functionally the same

[hearty shard]

I dont believe so?

I dont think it does so

[slate flume]

Interesting so you could do
Timing.RunCoroutine(Routine().CancelWith(() => NetworkServer.isActive))

[hearty shard]

probably?

but thing is

Afaik

It literally just waits for the gameobject to die, it doesnt like

Cast it to bool

And you're showing an Predicate of bool

Idk

[slate flume]

Oh interesting
I wanna look into this

[hearty shard]

Take this as an example

[thin shuttle]

it's actually better to make it call to an event

[hearty shard]

i see.

It did in fact not do what I thought it did

[restive turret]

Tbh i never used cancel with

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-blast-jimmy-neutron-jimbo-gif-26286685

[thin shuttle]

in fact i didn't know that

until i check

rn

[slate flume]

Me neither lmao I pulled up the code too

[hearty shard]

i thought it was tied to an event

[slate flume]

You were quick to the draw

[hearty shard]

But im also realizing that unity stinks

[thin shuttle]

but the game kinda use it

the KeycardScanner

it's probably the most heavy of all of them

[slate flume]

So use () => NetworkServer.active because that's a simple check (one stored bool), instead of running a null check on the GameObject every frame @tulip kiln

[thin shuttle]

oh no it's only about animation

so it's fine

[tulip kiln]

I think NetworkServer.acitve stays true between round restarts though?

or am I tripping

[thin shuttle]

also @hearty shard @slate flume this is probably only check when looping not like every single tick if you make it wait for 2seconds

[slate flume]

Idk I was just basing it off of this

[slate flume]

In my experience that's hasn't appeared to have been the case

[thin shuttle]

the best

i will send it

[restive turret]

Round.IsRunning ?

[thin shuttle]

SceneManager.sceneUnloaded

or OnRestartingRound()

using event

and foreach kill all of them

[slate flume]

Wait check this

Cancel when that returns true

Which happens in the initiation for a round restart

[thin shuttle]

ChangingScene

event

[tulip kiln]

I think I'll just tank the performance hit from using CancelWith with a gameobject

[thin shuttle]

lol

[tulip kiln]

Let's be honest, one coroutine checking this will not kill the server

[thin shuttle]

true

but now i have verified

SceneManager.sceneUnloaded it's the best used

[restive turret]

Why not put a check inside yo coroutine

[slate flume]

^ this is what I do 99% of the time

[thin shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[tulip kiln]

The coroutine waits for 75 seconds, executes two methods and dies

[slate flume]

Lmao wha

What is this coroutine

[restive turret]

Peak

[thin shuttle]

why 75seconds ?

[slate flume]

^

[tulip kiln]

Arbitrary number

[thin shuttle]

:3

i am curious

[slate flume]

What are you using this for I have to know

[thin shuttle]

Timing.RunDelayed

if you only delay the call

[restive turret]

Y'know you can also cache the return and kill the coroutine when the round restarting even gets called

[thin shuttle]

yeah

we told that

[restive turret]

There is like 4 possible svhebetios

[thin shuttle]

wish one do you prefer to use Slejm ?

[slate flume]

svhebetios situation is crazy

Waddup @warped prairie

Good to see ya

[restive turret]

Idk, whatever i feel that time lel

[thin shuttle]

lel

[restive turret]

Prob event since that more reliable ig

[warped prairie]

hai

[thin shuttle]

but

there also a things

what event

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[restive turret]

The OnSleepingOnTheJob event

[thin shuttle]

that don't exist

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

SceneManager.sceneUnloaded or OnRestarting

or OnEndedRound

[slate flume]

I love these little guys

[thin shuttle]

(kinda OnEnded is bad)

[restive turret]

Pff idk

[slate flume]

I just use OnServerRoundRestarted() from LabAPI

[strong lagoon]

Yo to load a schematic do I have to drag the folder into schematics or just the json?

[warped prairie]

they are so cool

i have 5 of them

[tulip kiln]

Tried explaining this but I wasn't even half done with over 10 lines of text. I'll just say it's a solution to a tricky problem.

[slate flume]

This is a PMER problem #1339593773788958852

[warped prairie]

[slate flume]

LMAO dude what!!

This makes me so much more curious I can't even lie

[slate flume]

It's so based 🥹

[thin shuttle]

where is that placed in SL code

why i see no call on it

[restive turret]

Lol

[thin shuttle]

my bad

wrong method

just didn't know

where to go lol

[slate flume]

Okay

What am I doing wrong

Nevermind I figured it out

[warped prairie]

lmao

[slate flume]

The problem was really stupid

Like incredibly dumb

Made me look like a huge idiot

[warped prairie]

its ok, i do that to myself legit once an hour touching my codebase.

so your on a roll

[slate flume]

The problem was also bricking my second server so it's nice I fixed it

[warped prairie]

loll

also, im like ultra hype for display kit. im gonna have to research a bit into it

mind you we dont know what will and wont be implemented exactly with it but it gon be hype

[slate flume]

Display kit is gonna be dope

Hint managers suck

[warped prairie]

yee. I had my own type of "wrapper" around RueI because of templating and other things so now all i need to do is completly refactor it to be with DisplayKit instead of whatever else

you know of any good docs for displaykit

[slate flume]

Literally none

It'll probably be like SSSS where we get some examples and just have to wing it

[warped prairie]

[soft depot]

then we gonna get the release of ASD (Actually Simple DisplayKit)

[warped prairie]

AAASD (Actually Actually Acceptably Simple DisplayKit)

[soft depot]

SAD (Simply Applicable DisplayKit)

[warped prairie]

sad :(

[teal junco]

Nah just pray they make it good the first time

[upper vapor]

Alternative option: use Awaitables with the host's cancellation token

[upper vapor]

I'm gonna smite whoever makes a wrapper for DisplayKit

[upper vapor]

What difficulties are you facing?
v2 is still in alpha so I can still make breaking changes

[vast canopy]

Just restriction from head dev. Thats all

[upper vapor]

Huh

Wdym

[slate flume]

This is perfect

I love it

[spare zodiac]

we're planning to make wrapper for it as soon as it drops

[thin shuttle]

I will

[upper vapor]

I'd get if you made convenience extension members but a wrapper will be unnecessary

[thin shuttle]

Full wrapper

[dusk tangle]

Could someone tell me the value of team_respawn_queue?

[slate flume]

Gg

Server host baby

[restive turret]

Not exist

Well the config value doesn't do anything

[dusk tangle]

Is team_respawn_queue not working anymore?

[restive turret]

Since 13.x

[dusk tangle]

noooooo

[restive turret]

Good luck finding where the values are

[celest thorn]

Im trying c# 14

extension thingy

but it doesn't work lol

public static class TaskExtensions
{
    extension(Task)
    {
    }
}

This throws a shit ton of errors

nvm i did a utils and just using that easier tbh

[icy knoll]

this works fine for me

this exact code

[celest thorn]

idk why for me it doesn't

i installed dotnet 10 sdk

[icy knoll]

lang ver 14?

in ur csproj

[celest thorn]

yea

i restarted my pc too

[icy knoll]

https://github.com/DiscordLabSCP/DiscordLab/blob/main/DiscordLab.Bot/API/Extensions/TaskExtensions.cs

builds fine for me

[celest thorn]

idk

let me copy and paste yours

[icy knoll]

make sure to recode before you commit

otherwise breach of license

lol

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/lxdtyog5.png

[icy knoll]

what's the error saying?

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/3wdycsaz.png

[icy knoll]

you sure that the lang version is set for the correct project? double check and everything

[celest thorn]

Yea

[icy knoll]

idk then lol

[celest thorn]

even if i go to proprietaries on C#

Idk fuck c#

then

removed your class

so it should be fine

or did i

(i did)

@serene vine

Nuke the mf

[serene vine]

Copy thay

[celest thorn]

@regal lake nuke the mf too

[upper vapor]

UTF-8 with BOM

[celest thorn]

i know

I WANNA DISABLE THAT MF

[upper vapor]

What

[upper vapor]

Settings -> encoding

[celest thorn]

omg

no boom

[upper vapor]

Can you run dotnet --list-sdks

[celest thorn]

10.0.103 [C:\Program Files (x86)\dotnet\sdk]

[upper vapor]

For existing files you have to change the encoding on the bottom bar

[upper vapor]

And langversion latest?

[celest thorn]

14

[upper vapor]

Yeah that should work

[celest thorn]

but it doesn't

so who cares

[upper vapor]

Does dotnet build work?

[celest thorn]

nop

[upper vapor]

Try creating a new project and using extension members there

Though that should not make a diff

Installing Linux might just solve the issue

[thin shuttle]

lol

how to solve windows problem

use Linux

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[upper vapor]

Open the doors

[dusk tangle]

As far as I remember, it used to be possible to display custom messages with UnitName using a Harmony patch. Is that no longer possible?

[hearty shard]

no

[restive turret]

no

[dusk tangle]

what

[restive turret]

Is that no longer possible? -> No

[dusk tangle]

oh

ok

[slate flume]

That is a double negative

Is that no longer possible?

No.

That means it's not no longer possible, meaning it is possible

[restive turret]

guh

[hearty shard]

who r u hugging

evil creature

[dusk tangle]

I'm not good at English

[upper vapor]

So the answer is

It's not possible

[upper vapor]

Gotta love the ambiguity of ! in non-programming languages

[halcyon kite]

https://tenor.com/view/how-linux-users-install-a-web-browser-linux-linux-users-gif-20223386

[slate flume]

Me when factorial

[upper vapor]

Troll

1!!!!!!!

2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = 2

[slate flume]

4! = 24
4!! = 8
(4!)! = 620,448,401,733,239,439,360,000

[hearty shard]

what the hell

[slate flume]

True story

[hearty shard]

what the fuck is factorial

ok so its just

5! = 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1

ok

😭

[unique crane]

Eve uncovering basic math

[hearty shard]

ive never heard factorial described

i never searched the word

[tulip kiln]

Do you want me to make an async method?

[hearty shard]

fun fact

im not american

or british

[unique crane]

I know

Your from Denmark or something like that

You ssid

Said

[hearty shard]

ya

[snow ruin]

News on this, do i miss a property or something ?

pickupRb = _followPickup.GameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
if (pickupRb != null)
{
  pickupRb.useGravity = false;
}

[hearty shard]

wait

the translation is literally just faktoriel

😭

i suppose i fell asleep one day and never learnt it

[tulip kiln]

faktoriel

https://tenor.com/view/toriel-undertale-frisk-gif-8271888358228563436

[unique crane]

You didn't lock it

Locking it cause no movement

[hearty shard]

valid

[slate flume]

You need to set gravity before you create the pickup

[snow ruin]

ahh

[slate flume]

Because SL fucked it up

[hearty shard]

skittles

[slate flume]

At least last I checked

[slate flume]

Also use IsKinematic or IsStatic or something instead of UseGravity

It broke last september

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-pet-hamster-crying-hamster-wiping-tears-with-hamster-crying-gif-25381682

[snow ruin]

_followPickup = Pickup.Create(_followType, Vector3.zero);
                    
_followRb = _followPickup.GameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
if (_followRb != null)
{
  _followRb.isKinematic = true;
}
                    
_followPickup.Spawn();

smth like this ?

[slate flume]

Yeah something like that

[snow ruin]

the thing is i think i can only make it works with firearms

i dont think i can get the worldmodel of non firearm items

[slate flume]

Also don't use GetComponent

var pickup = Pickup.Create(...)
pickup.PickupStandardPhysics?.Rb

Last I checked at least

[snow ruin]

well it worked

[slate flume]

Yeah but it's inefficient

[snow ruin]

ahh

[hearty shard]

skittles

[slate flume]

GetComponent calls are expensive

[upper vapor]

It's not even difficult

You just call it

[upper vapor]

Tey isKinematic = true

[slate flume]

He already did

Scroll down

Hey did you guys ever fix the issues with isKinematic and stuff not syncing?

It broke last september

[snow ruin]

looks bad anyways

this is every frame

[hearty shard]

give them a skirt

[slate flume]

The gun is the problem

[upper vapor]

Genius

[hearty shard]

shhh

itll fix it

[thin shuttle]

Wasn't it fixed ?

[slate flume]

No clue

[true cedar]

shut up eve

[restive turret]

whats eve SSID?

[upper vapor]

WifEvil

[snow ruin]

🧌

[upper vapor]

5 GHz

[slate flume]

Just recreate every gun out of primitives

[thin shuttle]

Real

[restive turret]

I fixed it and it should be in one of the changelog

[slate flume]

Okay cool

[snow ruin]

cant we use client parenting tho i just realized

[slate flume]

Thank you very cool 🙏🏻

[slate flume]

No

[snow ruin]

ah

[slate flume]

Pickups don't sync parenting

#1416148591205941378 message

[restive turret]

Fixed Pickup physics not updating when a plugin modifies the sync data.

14.2.3

ye even if you do networkserver.spawn it does NOT parent to anywhere

[snow ruin]

the suit is also not client parented and it updates faster than the pickup tho

there has to be a way

[restive turret]

even if you instanciate as spawning there

It made my days horrible

[slate flume]

AdminToys have synced parenting

That includes Primitives

[snow ruin]

i dont parent them

i update pos

[slate flume]

Do you have movement smoothing enabled?

And WHY DON'T YOU PARENT THEM 😭

[snow ruin]

i tried but bc the bones of the player is 0 0 0 it fcks up the scale

and i dont want to bother fixing it

[upper vapor]

Me when
Create the schematic
Transform.parent = player

[snow ruin]

💀

[slate flume]

Pickups prob just sync slower

[upper vapor]

What does this mean

[upper vapor]

Istg if MER worked

[snow ruin]

idk when i parent them to player bone all prims disappear

[upper vapor]

You can't

Bones don't have network identities

[snow ruin]

then thats why i update pos

[upper vapor]

So arguably it is simpler to move each one manually, yeah

[snow ruin]

yeah thats what i do

[slate flume]

Is this an accurate statement?

[snow ruin]

i do think so

and prim move smoothing is 60 also

[thin shuttle]

Yeah it's what i got told i just don't remind when

[restive turret]

ye i posted when exactly