plugins-dev-chat

[restive turret]

Well if error show you did

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/mu478w75.png

This is search

[celest thorn]

like i don't think i did anything wrong?

[restive turret]

You missing 2 bytes

[celest thorn]

what bytes??

[restive turret]

Where would a 2 byte hide in the function

*class

2nd pic

[celest thorn]

yea obv

but where tf is?

[celest thorn]

maybe its a byte?

like the player because it requires ReferenceHub

[upper vapor]

the error isn't about what you're writing as data, the content length is bad

[celest thorn]

ok amazing

        int headerPosition = writer.Position;
        writer.WriteByte(0);

        int contentPosition = writer.Position;
        OnSerialize(writer, initialState);

        int endPosition = writer.Position;
        writer.Position = headerPosition;

        int size = endPosition - contentPosition;
        byte safety = (byte)(size & 0xFF);

        writer.WriteByte(safety);
        writer.Position = endPosition;

[upper vapor]

that looks fine though

[celest thorn]

idk

[celest thorn]

like im serious confused, to be honest idk and this is why it doesn't work anything i think lol

[soft turtle]

[03.02.2026 11:34:09] [ERROR] [LabApi] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Mirror.LocalConnectionToClient.Send (System.ArraySegment1[T] segment, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00000] in <8edc8ab9348e47b2ab7e66c903f2b942>:0 at Utils.Networking.NetworkUtils.SendToHubsConditionally[T] (T msg, System.Func2[T,TResult] predicate, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00055] in <2074319d08ae411499ec188b6bd916d5>:0
at Utils.Networking.NetworkUtils.SendToAuthenticated[T] (T message, System.Int32 channelId) [0x00000] in <2074319d08ae411499ec188b6bd916d5>:0
at LabApi.Features.Audio.AudioTransmitter+<Transmit>d__45.MoveNext () [0x00195] in <9e8e00107de94d4f8ea9fc96c93d382f>:0

[unique crane]

You really fucked up something then

[celest thorn]

who of the two

lol

[soft turtle]

Yay

🤠

[upper vapor]

again

don't use the transmitter

[soft turtle]

I didn't 😭

[upper vapor]

i assume somehow you're getting a null pl...

well how else would it be transmitting

[soft turtle]

Okay, I'll patch the code

[restive turret]

Are you sure you using Player.ReadyList?

[soft turtle]

I made IsValid check
There it is checked whether the player is null, whether the reference hub is null and whether it is ready for messages

[celest thorn]

I found out

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/q318xwdh.png

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/01uqe7j0.png

what is different???

[unique crane]

Are you sure.. that the generator method does exactly the same?

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/r6oem9o7.png

im going insane inventory is the worst shit ever

last piece before i finally made the client without any error

[upper vapor]

any other things that inventory serializes?

like

objects

or a custom onserializeserver\

[celest thorn]

There's no serialize

Only the serializesyncvars

I've set the default like sl to ItemIdentifier.None

Maybe because the other like Sync etc... aren't even initalized?

[icy knoll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/433847132609314826/990612133366607872/funniestshitiveeverseen.gif?width=484&height=676

@unique crane why do we still work in 5 feet of liquid mercury

[unique crane]

Would you rather go to the hole?

the mostly infinite one

[icy knoll]

smh

[celest thorn]

When the client source code would be so useful rn

[upper vapor]

wayside

[celest thorn]

lol

[unique crane]

sec xd

what do you need

[celest thorn]

inventory

[upper vapor]

when the client code would be worse bc you don't see the generated members

[celest thorn]

i've been trying to do the inventory

[celest thorn]

Ngl it would be better

because atleast i get a place where the error is going

[restive turret]

TypeId??

[celest thorn]

TypeId is the ItemType

[restive turret]

We dont have pdbs

Apart from generating yourself

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/i589ksig.png

this is like the full error

[unique crane]

@celest thorn And what exactly

[celest thorn]

I don't know i think its something to do with the inventory or the search

but both are fine

[upper vapor]

now you don't have enough data like how

[celest thorn]

IDK?

that is the same question i've been wondering

maybe i need to set the raydistance?

to something that isn't 0

[upper vapor]

i think this is the issue xd

[celest thorn]

Lol

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/t7k4z2nd.png

i don't think so

i love mirror

float Float 4 bytes
int Integer 4 bytes
uint Unsigned Integer 4 bytes

One of this can be lol

nope still missing 4 bytes wtf?

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/3l1fsydl.png

[unique crane]

The thing in SearchCoordinator is that there is only 1 syncvar

[celest thorn]

yea and i sync that one

[unique crane]

so what are you syncing??

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/3o95h3m3.png

[upper vapor]

how about you don't sync anything and just\

[celest thorn]

this

[upper vapor]

rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/h4bok13c.png

wtf even FastRound?

[upper vapor]

you won't believe if i say

it controls whether there is a fast restart

[icy knoll]

why do i have a feeling bro is not even gunna use this code once it's finished

[celest thorn]

im gonna use it lol

thats the entire point

[upper vapor]

i hope it won't be finsihed

[celest thorn]

else i wouldn't be making it

and im bored

[icy knoll]

same, because with all this work the game wont even be SL in the end

[upper vapor]

in the end, it doesn't even matter

[celest thorn]

I fixed it i manually did the Indexes and i messed up one

[upper vapor]

bru

[celest thorn]

i had 23 instead of 24

i was missing one AspectRatio

[restive turret]

Bruh

U gonna open source it or not

@restive turret

My ass

@celest thorn

[celest thorn]

Depends on maro

im trying to figure out how tf global badge work

lol

[restive turret]

That's a mystery

[celest thorn]

idk i wanted to see if i could've faked it

[restive turret]

Lel

[celest thorn]

but i probably need a private key lol

[restive turret]

Ask sec if u can host one

I usually assume sec would say "No."

[celest thorn]

100%

lol

it would be funny

[upper vapor]

at cedric

[celest thorn]

at cedric can you give me the key for signing badges :3

[restive turret]

MM

[upper vapor]

M&M's?

or

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/jnvpy4xt.png

Btw i wonder why this is black when my settings are purple

[upper vapor]

tutorial but not tutorial>?

tortureial

[celest thorn]

i send the SyncRole

so it knows it is the Tutorial

i even get the tutorial

[upper vapor]

you might be missing spawn data or something

idkk

SIteLink also has this

if i was at home i could try debugging it for you (client debug) (the kernel might not like it)

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[restive turret]

Join to yo server as in editor

[upper vapor]

ye

[celest thorn]

oh lol

[upper vapor]

that sounds really gangsta

join yo serva

[celest thorn]

lol

[restive turret]

-----BEGIN PRIVATE KEY-----
MIIEwq[REDACTED]KBkH
-----END PRIVATE KEY-----

[celest thorn]

lol

thanks :3

[restive turret]

Its not even how real private key works so

[celest thorn]

it will work

[restive turret]

I dont think [ or ] is in base64

[celest thorn]

Oh wait

SubroutineMessage maybe this?

is the reason why its black

[upper vapor]

mkbhd

[upper vapor]

human roles don't have subroutines i don't think

[celest thorn]

hmm

[upper vapor]

idk what else is there

[restive turret]

Its a mystery!

[celest thorn]

fr

[upper vapor]

you can drop the "t" from the last word

[restive turret]

Fred, Diana and Velma goes to searching in Fpc, Scoob and Shaggy going to search in Stats

[upper vapor]

crazy

[restive turret]

I know you are

[upper vapor]

hwo do you know

[celest thorn]

Im actually surprised it worked

i sent it 2 times

and it actually worked

[hearty shard]

mmmm

eggs

[upper pike]

Eggs, stir, mix, bake

[restive turret]

Cake is a lie

[celest thorn]

Im really confused about something when does the AuthenticationResponse come through?

because i've been trying for hours i've managed to Make a random salt for the server but not give an encryption key i cannot understand why not authentication response comes to the server

[worn gull]

How can I check if a steamid or ip is banned?

[cyan crown]

filmmaker role

[celest thorn]

Wait

you aren't anymore an helper??

[cyan crown]

no i resigned 2 to 3 months ago

https://tenor.com/view/повезлоповезло-анонимус-gif-20728054

[mild ice]

Polaris has a /ban check command for global bans

[worn gull]

I mean with plugin 😄

[mild ice]

Forgot what channel this was for a second 😭

[restive turret]

Server.GetAllBannedPlayers

or

BanDetails? BanHandler.GetBan(id, BanType)

[upper vapor]

society if the ban system wasn't utter shyte

[tulip kiln]

I'm willing to bet that in the past week another developer has borked the ban system by putting a \n in the reason.

😔

[restive turret]

lmao

[upper vapor]

who could that have been

[tulip kiln]

Wasn't me this time

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-flightreacts-yikes-shocked-gif-6414215169603726054

[thin shuttle]

@celest thorn good luck with that

[slender lynx]

already did it

[celest thorn]

Hello yamato just to say it i made the RA work :3

[thin shuttle]

OH

cool

[celest thorn]

and made inventory work

:3

im insane

yes

[thin shuttle]

yeah

[slender lynx]

its tons of work

[celest thorn]

and multithread

[thin shuttle]

complettely

[slender lynx]

but worth it

[celest thorn]

too

[thin shuttle]

honnestly i got enough only with FakeRoleSync

[celest thorn]

when exiled will be ported here?

[slender lynx]

tuff?

[thin shuttle]

what do you mean ?

[celest thorn]

btw great fun fact

You need to send the rolesyncinfo 2 time

to actually change the color to the client

idk why

but gg nw

[thin shuttle]

uhmm

i don't thinks nw send it twice

since we only did it once

[celest thorn]

yes they do

[slender lynx]

they do

for some fuckass reason

[celest thorn]

FPCDistributor

[thin shuttle]

whut ?

[celest thorn]

They send it first time when doing the role

and second time and FPCDistributor

you can check that

thats how i got to that conclusion

[thin shuttle]

you incorectly named it

it's not finding anything rn

[slender lynx]

hold on

its en route

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/fnhennto.png

FpcServerPositionDistributor::SendRole

[thin shuttle]

"en route" in french mean in english "on road"

[slender lynx]

yeah i have no clue i just assume it means on the way

[celest thorn]

PlayerRoleManager::ServerSetRole

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/9oy6hz4i.png

the SendNewInfo does that

[thin shuttle]

i have a very big question

[celest thorn]

hm

[thin shuttle]

why you don't send screenshot in discord but in a weird website ?

[celest thorn]

so i don't waste space and it was gifted to me for free

so why not use it

[slender lynx]

cloud storage

[upper vapor]

because she's like this and she loves clogging the channel

[celest thorn]

and i can take video too

[slender lynx]

why axwabo always so agressive.?

[celest thorn]

bro don't put words in my mouth

[restive turret]

passive agressive tone always smh

[upper vapor]

am i wrong though
and how was i agressive

[slender lynx]

yes
u r bein mean for nothin

[thin shuttle]

??

[slender lynx]

ngl i forgot abt the petty arguments here

its kinda chill tho

[thin shuttle]

i am sometime scared to be aggresive with people when i only try to recomand something

[restive turret]

i should make an app that uploads cat pic here with a given argument

[celest thorn]

If you want do it

[slender lynx]

so true

[celest thorn]

but self bot are bannable by discord :3

[restive turret]

applications

[celest thorn]

idk if nw would allow it

but go for it

[restive turret]

i think you can run those actions if app not on server

or smth idk shit about disocrd

[restive turret]

I usually not care about if I become "passive agressive", i mean check my username

[thin shuttle]

what your name ?

[restive turret]

theverifieddickhead

[thin shuttle]

and why ?

[unique crypt]

Do I need to do something with SSS in my plugin when Disable() is called besides unregistering events?

[upper vapor]

just use SecretAPI
and as a good practice it would be nice to remove your own settings, though Disable is never called

[restive turret]

i was being dickhead and got banned bc of it in one channel, despite saying the owner of it is says he was a "bigger dickhead" yet I did overake it, a verified cus idk sounded better

[celest thorn]

Or just make your own

[upper vapor]

omg a furry is typing

scary

and not anymore

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-gif-354551837658903211

[restive turret]

you scared paws

[upper vapor]

i'm not scared paws

PWAs

okay

[thin shuttle]

i always try to feel nice with people

[upper vapor]

there's no such rule

[thin shuttle]

i would feel bad on my self otherwise

[upper vapor]

@evil would like to object

[restive turret]

I tried and wasnt succeeded

so i just go on point many times

[wary gust]

wdym it's never called? Is there even a point in unsubscribing events then?

[upper vapor]

not really

[celest thorn]

english?

[upper vapor]

ig it's reserved for future use

[upper vapor]

yes english

[thin shuttle]

why you guys never call OnDisable ???

[restive turret]

Plugin.Disable never gets called by LabApi
But usually it is best practice to do something you did in Enable disable things in Disable

[upper vapor]

exactly

[thin shuttle]

bruh

*but why

[restive turret]

where would we call (if there isnt a command)

[thin shuttle]

why

reload plugins

[upper vapor]

bc we don't have a plugin reload command

[thin shuttle]

don't you guys have these ?

[upper vapor]

i tried making hot reload again
failed again

[restive turret]

only config

config reload not plugin reload i think

[upper vapor]

y'all have this interesting approach of "name the assembly differently before loading it"

like

i don't think anyone will do that

[thin shuttle]

i don't get it ?

[upper vapor]

to reload a plugin's assembly, you need to load an assembly with a different name

which works... kinda

[restive turret]

you cant unload assembly

[upper vapor]

yea

[unique crypt]

is id in something like SSTwoButtonsSetting global for all plugins or per plugin?

[upper vapor]

IDs are shared

the SSSS doesn't have a way to differentiate between instantiators

[carmine prawn]

||stupid(me) ammo module||

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436194978400571502/1468290907202650356/Gorm-4x.gif

rewrite it yourself then if its stupid based on your statement "Stupid ammo module"

[upper vapor]

okay but have you considered

[carmine prawn]

[carmine prawn]

ok, so I tried to change the ammo of a FirearmPickup by setting StoredAmmo on FirearmItem.Get(FirearmPickup.Base.Template), but that doesn't work. so...

the correct (roughly) approach is
pickupItem.Base.TryGetModule(out MagazineModule module); module.ServerSetInstanceAmmo(pickupItem.Serial, 233);

[celest thorn]

How can i write byte arrays in mirror?

        NetworkWriter wr = new NetworkWriter();
        wr.WriteUShort(NetworkMessages.EncryptedMessageOutside);
        wr.WriteInt((int)packed.Level);
        wr.WriteArray(packed.Data);
        
        SendMirrorData(wr);

Like this goes overflow

[celest thorn]

Im pretty sure you can do that with labapi

[restive turret]

what is packed

[celest thorn]

the message for the game console

the original one has a byte[]
https://i.e-z.host/🐀/aepq3rnt.png

and the conversion and everything is the same except i think im writing wrong the byte[]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/25vbw3h4.png

After doing the entire Authentication back ngl i don't wanna spend another 6 hours

[celest thorn]

idk if i can use that

wait

oh its a byte

[restive turret]

bruhh

[celest thorn]

IT WORKED

YIPPPEEEE

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/y67k7yw1.png

my new authentication Haiiii

[celest thorn]

what

[real spade]

how to make it be in the left corner\

[hearty shard]

Im eve

[real spade]

I see

[celest thorn]

what are you using?

ruei?

[real spade]

no

[celest thorn]

so what then?

[real spade]

EXILED so how to make it be in the left corner or at the bottom

[unique crane]

You can just

for loop write byte

[celest thorn]

the error was just the byte

i wrote it as a int

[unique crane]

For Exiled support please use Exiled discord

[celest thorn]

instead it was a byte

[unique crane]

silly

[celest thorn]

the code never said anything for that ;(

[real spade]

Yes, I write to them and they don't respond.

[unique crane]

Does the byte bite?

[celest thorn]

the code just said Enum

so i said hmmm int

[unique crane]

Then you will have to wait

[real spade]

(((((((

[hearty shard]

Bam

OMG DAVID

[unique crane]

Yeah check the enum inheritance

[celest thorn]

oh lol

[unique crane]

EVE

hai

[celest thorn]

my bad then

[hearty shard]

Hai

Hru!!

[unique crane]

I have all exams done

[hearty shard]

Wooo!!!

[void delta]

got an ra question here
is there any way to delay the captions in custom subtitles for cassie?

[void delta]

nvm i got it

[dim horizon]

do you mean with <split>

if you figured it out I would love to know

cuz subtitles are difficult to sync in with the commands

[void delta]

i did a bunch of tiny .(s) at a small size

like

\nAvoid any <b>anomalies.</b><size=0.01>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

arbitrary amount of .(s) to get the delay i want

@dim horizon

idk if this is what exactly your refering to but i got it to sync up the captions with the text its actually saying

[upper vapor]

Yes it does

[upper vapor]

This is crazy

You can also just use size 0

[upper vapor]

Wdym

[void delta]

it works
let me send a recording

https://medal.tv/games/scp-secret-laboratory/clips/m352NXPRwRR-Ia8f2?invite=cr-MSxzZ1UsMzk0MjY5OTM5&v=60

[void delta]

ya i just used 0.01 bcs you still cant see it

[upper vapor]

Why don't you use <split>s

It would probably be a lot easier

[void delta]

Didnt know that was a thing

lmao

[upper vapor]

So just add a <split> in the announcement string and <split> in the subtitles

[void delta]

Got it, thanks

[upper vapor]

The extra spaces in the announcement are important

Np

[dim horizon]

What I meant was <split> tends to be a little inaccurate with what CASSIE Says and can be a little late or early to what CASSIE Is actually saying

[upper vapor]

Yeah that's a bit of an issue

STOP AUTOCORRECTING "AN" TO "AM"

I genuinely don't know WY that happens

I'm gonna crash out

[sinful bronze]

My life without auto correction is better

[restive turret]

Lel

Me when i don't teach my autocorrect

[unique crane]

Subtitles are constant speed afaik

They aren't meant to be perfect sync

[dim horizon]

Would be nice if you could edit the speed tho

Don't the subtitles use split depending on how many words are in the command bank?

or is it set by how much words are in the subtitles instead

[upper vapor]

They are supposed to split when the <split> plays

At least I think

[upper vapor]

Me when the revealing mechanism is framerate-dependent

[unique crane]

😭

[upper vapor]

Yknow the typing

It's so annoying

[wraith junco]

Салам жирные

[sweet flax]

is there a lib for sending embedded message for discord using webhooks?

[worn gull]

Hey how can I position a locker and the item will be in the correct position?
This is the current code

        var instantiate = Object.Instantiate(locker);
        var absolutePosition = room.Transform.TransformPoint(new Vector3(33f, 95.841f, 13.246f));
        var absoluteRotation = room.Transform.rotation * Quaternion.Euler(new Vector3(180f, 0f, 0f));
        instantiate.transform.SetPositionAndRotation(absolutePosition, absoluteRotation);

        if (instantiate.TryGetComponent<StructurePositionSync>(out var component1))
        {
            component1.Network_position = instantiate.transform.position;
            component1.Network_rotationY =
                (sbyte)Mathf.RoundToInt(instantiate.transform.rotation.eulerAngles.y / 5.625f);
        }

        instantiate.gameObject.name = "Scp035Locker";
        NetworkServer.Spawn(instantiate.gameObject);```

[autumn orchid]

@pale vector

[restive turret]

Don't know what you are asking tbh

[worn gull]

Like the item is not in the locker

Sometimes it spawns outside of it

[restive turret]

Check how pmer does it

Or show how you actually spawn item inside

[upper vapor]

just call SPS.Start

the items should be in the correct position

[upper vapor]

check out DiscordLab

[wary gust]

discord lab doesn't use webhooks iirc

it hosts a discord bot

and webhooks are a bit different at least concerning json structure

[restive turret]

Iirc you just send a json into webhook

[upper vapor]

right

i forgor

[restive turret]

I 🐸

[pale vector]

What

[icy knoll]

for the next update, Discord.Net.Webhooks will be packaged with DiscordLab, so you can use the discord bot and webhooks

[sweet flax]

dciord net webhooks iirc does not support mono

[icy knoll]

i made it so damage logs now uses webhooks to decrease the ratelimit issues

[icy knoll]

it doesn't

but i made it so it does

so

discordlab uses Discord.Net for everything

all works fine and good

[sweet flax]

what did you change?

[icy knoll]

the main issue was that the proxy system just breaks in mono

[wary gust]

the new versions don't support mono

[icy knoll]

so i just fixed that system

that was the only issue

😭

[sweet flax]

so you justed forked it?

[icy knoll]

no

[sweet flax]

or better question did you change discord net code or just used special config or smth like that

[icy knoll]

patched the code

[sweet flax]

can i

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848150791441088533/1287860158910828635/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif

?

[icy knoll]

no

AGPL-v3 license

you would be breaching it

DiscordLab is a modular system, so you can just add ur own stuff to it

[hearty shard]

chat

im eve

[icy knoll]

what? no way!

[misty gale]

Is .NET Framework 4.8 required to program or is newer frameworks ok?

[wary gust]

@icy knoll DiscordNet doesn't support .NET framework. I did send you a very random message about this when it was announced.
https://github.com/discord-net/Discord.Net/pull/3193

[hearty shard]

net standard 2.1 works too

[icy knoll]

you can only use 4.8 or netstandard

[icy knoll]

well you can see that it works fine

[restive turret]

Isn't it that you have to disclose source & also the modification too

[icy knoll]

and i still use a semi updated version

[wary gust]

for now until discord makes a new API version and deprecates this one

[icy knoll]

yup, and the reason i used it was because of a loophole too

[icy knoll]

it uses v10

[misty gale]

is better?

[icy knoll]

discord wont depreciate it

[restive turret]

Me omw to support newest .net

(i will fail)

[upper vapor]

For now you should go with .net framework 4.8
Install the latest (10) dotnet SDK
When creating a project, choose the .net 10 class library template, then change the TargetFramework to net48

[icy knoll]

also use lang ver 14

[misty gale]

ok

[upper vapor]

^^^^

[icy knoll]

dont wanna be like exiled using lang ver 8/9 for 100 years

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

A humble
<LangVersion>latest</LangVersion>

[icy knoll]

14 isn't latest

it's preview

[restive turret]

Lool

What's in 14?

[icy knoll]

field keyword

[restive turret]

I use net10 and i used field kw

[icy knoll]

that's net10

net10 uses lang 14

lang 14 comes from net10

dummy

[upper vapor]

Latest is 14

[restive turret]

latest should use the latest langver you have

[icy knoll]

changed it recently then

last time i checked latest it was 13

[upper vapor]

Weym recently

Newest full release is always the latest

[wary gust]

I am not saying it's not fine or that it's your fault or anything. I use it in my discord integration plugin too. The thing is that it is in fact not getting updated. The last version to support .net framework is 3.18.0 which had the last update 7 months ago.

[restive turret]

.netstandard works too

Idk is newest build with that

Idk about deez cord

[icy knoll]

it was 7 months ago? damn, time flies huh

im on 3.17.4

[upper vapor]

I'd recommend explicitly specifying it so if someone happens the clone your project, they'll get a meaningful error message

[restive turret]

Krill issue to them i build stuff with .net10 anyway in github actions

You should always have latest .net

[upper vapor]

Tell this to the .net 5 mfs

[restive turret]

I ignore them

[upper vapor]

Smart

[icy knoll]

@wary gust just to say, Discord.Net 3.18.0 is the latest stable version anyway lol, 3.19.0 has been in the works for 7 months

[wary gust]

I am aware. they are mainly working on v4 iirc

[icy knoll]

oh ur a contributor

that's why

[wary gust]

I stopped paying attention to their update cycle after the .net framework discontinuation

[wary gust]

I had to fix a bug is all

[icy knoll]

damn

[wary gust]

they had like no support for select menus. Well they did but it was broken for like 2+ years iirc

like the PR is literally 2 line changes

https://github.com/discord-net/Discord.Net/commit/8883596c31d61771d9c34964ac7eb2554a95277e

[icy knoll]

i always use typescript for discord bots for this reason lol

discordlab can't do that tho ofc

[wary gust]

write a typescript interpreter for SL /j

or javascript ig

[icy knoll]

id rather die

[hearty shard]

BWA

[autumn orchid]

I have a question about your SCANNER plugin

[soft depot]

I bet NetCord could

[upper vapor]

cyn's favorite system mentioned

[pale vector]

What question

[icy knoll]

wha

[hearty shard]

bam bam bam

lumi

if you want to not use js for discord bot

just make ur own discord net

[soft depot]

I’m saying I think NetCord (another C# thing for discord bots) could do whatever it is that discord.net isn’t able to do

[hearty shard]

time to be evil

[upper vapor]

it's always your time

[hearty shard]

what the flip!?

flip u

[autumn orchid]

Can I change it in config?

all

[hearty shard]

[wary gust]

that thing doesn't even support .net framework tho 😭

to my knowledge

[slender lynx]

py plugins for sl would be so peak

[pale vector]

Like the things that cassie says when saying what classes left?

[autumn orchid]

yes

[pale vector]

For now, not but you gave me a good suggestion for it. If you want to change the pre messages or not successful scan message, then you can in confg

So maybe next update, ok?

[autumn orchid]

I wish it could be translated too

[pale vector]

Ok

[celest thorn]

what i did was different from translating SSS and Hints, for hints i just made it on my config for SSS i've made it that pre sending them it checks the language and checks the path so {menus.general.buttonhello} and it would've taken that has a translation

[icy knoll]

yeah it says .NET 10 or higher

[pale vector]

I'm thinking differently, like a manual set in the main config and from the main it then finds the lang file that you want to use that you set and it uses it. Your method is not bad for checking the language, so I will try to do something similar and if it fails then the hoster will set.

Do I stick with labapi or do I also make it for exiled framework because it's currently labapi?

[upper vapor]

there isn't really a reason to make an exiled version of a plugin

it would only make sense if you had part of your API reference EXILED stuff

[pale vector]

Ok

[soft depot]

and yet somehow we can use C# 14 on SL (cuz unity has a weird framework thing idrk)

[upper vapor]

most language features are just syntactic sugar

default interface implementation is indeed framework-dependent, you can use them cuz they're provided by unity's bullshit

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeyIlt_uFyQ

Is this latest version of SL-AC?

[slender lynx]

i could see it

chatgpt 3.0 shit

[hearty shard]

the fact getters and setters are just methods

[upper vapor]

and they're superior to j*va

[hearty shard]

yes

java be wild

[next jungle]

as a person with 5 years of java exp, fuck java

i aint touching that hell hole again

[upper vapor]

Lmao

Java is fine if you're using new Java (idk personally)

[next jungle]

if you are new to java, go learn kotlin instead

you will have hair by the end of it

[restive turret]

if you are new to java dont learn anything close to java

[next jungle]

jvm is a memory hog

[upper vapor]

Speaking head emoji

Or just learn C#

[next jungle]

true

c# is a 2 in one language cuz if you learn it you also know java

[restive turret]

well many times i screwed over javas List interface

[next jungle]

why did you touch it in the first place

[upper vapor]

ArrayList
LinkerList
DoublyLinkedList
HatingList

[hearty shard]

flipping flippers?

[teal junco]

the java naming conventions are just kinda jarring to me

[royal mica]

Just to represent the other side, I love Java and Kotlin

[plain gazelle]

Where can i find the banned Group colors again

Iirc some colors are reserved for global admins or sth

[plain gazelle]

Thank you

[burnt hearth]

thsese are the colors you can use

[plain gazelle]

Ohh okay, thanks

bummer...

pin that fr

im surprised this chat has no pins

[mild ice]

It's pretty new compared to the rest of the server

[burnt hearth]

yeah this channel is quite new

[plain gazelle]

aw, i needed dark blue/purple

hm

[burnt hearth]

Do you have the picture with colors servers can't use? i can't find it anywhere

[plain gazelle]

i suppose my idea of using the group field was dumb anyway since i probably shouldnt try to override global mods titles or sth, imma rethink my plan

[mild ice]

Trust me you don't want dark blue

[plain gazelle]

Anything dark is barely visible iirc yeah

[mild ice]

My badge is, it doesn't display very well

I did used to have purple though and that was really pretty

[burnt hearth]

which tag do you have

the S&C one

or your discord manager one

[burnt hearth]

i want the purple color

so bad

its so peak

[mild ice]

S&C

[plain gazelle]

jesus, those are a lot of colors from Unitys.Color

[burnt hearth]

thats police blue iirc

[mild ice]

This includes both

[mild ice]

Sadly

[burnt hearth]

i wish i had the purple color

its so good

[mild ice]

I miss mine lol

But not to be

[plain gazelle]

If only i could use the badge field for plugin gameplay stuff but those darn global mods gotta meddle with my plans grrrr

[burnt hearth]

just ask for it again :trol:

cedric might say yes

(lie)

[mild ice]

Not up to him lol

Badges is a HR problem

[burnt hearth]

try to convince HR for purple color ig

[thin shuttle]

They will rewrite them

So they deny any change until the rework of it

[burnt hearth]

[thin shuttle]

If any nw staff can counter arguments this i would be so happy

[plain gazelle]

Allow servers all colors and have global moderation related badges get their own dedicated line above the current group field

:3

[thin shuttle]

It's was kinda the case before with custominfo

#serverhost-cat message

Old drama color

[restive turret]

tbh I think badge rework would be simply better than just do X and Í until it gets rewrited

[hearty shard]

EVIL LUCID

[restive turret]

I also have less clue how the badge system work rn since it is waahahaha

not gonna touch it

[unique crypt]

Is it possible to create a collider from a plugin?

[upper vapor]

yes

[unique crypt]

really wanna fix the grenade throwing into tutorial tower

[upper vapor]

if you want it server-only:

new GameObject("name", typeof(BoxCollider))
{
    transform =
    {
        position = pos,
        localScale = scale
    }
}

on waiting for players

[unique crypt]

what if I do it on round start?

[plain gazelle]

How could i make events like LabAPI has?
So that i can subscribe to them in one place and invoke them somewhere custom with custom event arguments

[upper vapor]

i guess you can
but i hate when ppl spawn large schematics on round start

[unique crypt]

I have other plugin that modifies the sinkhole hazards's size on round start

[upper vapor]

static event Action<Whatever>? MyEvent

[unique crypt]

because it didn't work on waiting for players for some reason (but it worked in exiled version flawlessly)

probably my skill issue

[upper vapor]

and when you wanna invoke it: MyEvent?.Invoke(args) (invocation must happen in the declaring class)

[plain gazelle]

Does anything need to be static?

[upper vapor]

that might be related to sinkholes, but when you spawn collider really doesn't matter

[upper vapor]

you can make static and instance events, too

[thin shuttle]

You better have to spawn it inside OnWaitingForPlayer

But yeah nobody will feel only a single collider spawn lol

[upper vapor]

yeah you generally wanna set up map stuff in WaitingForPlayers

good practice

[thin shuttle]

Yeah

[unique crypt]

last time I did any big map stuff was when MER was still working 💀

[thin shuttle]

Also if not needed on client do what axwabo said to put it server side only

[unique crypt]

||(I really miss DetailedGateA)||

[upper vapor]

when MER was still working

it still works

[thin shuttle]

What was that

[thin shuttle]

He mean the exiled version but it's still work yeah it's have been maintained by community

As they didn't want to change over pmer

[unique crypt]

It added a small hut near the tutorial tower where you could sit

and some other small stuff

I can share the schematic

[thin shuttle]

I would kinda prefer picture if you have

But if you talked of surface mer still work

[unique crypt]

I can make a picture if someone sends a link to working MER

[upper vapor]

PMER

look in labapu-plugins

#1339593773788958852

[thin shuttle]

He wante mer no pmer

[upper vapor]

why

[thin shuttle]

Because there difference and breakign change between them

[plain gazelle]

The PlayerEvents.Joined is only called once a player is authenticated and ready ye?

[thin shuttle]

Will send you later ping me around 21h in france

[wary gust]

do the breaking changes also concern schematics?

[upper vapor]

ye

[upper vapor]

i assume not every schematic works the exact same way

[wary gust]

but like what would even change? the only thing I know is that the current CO doesn't support enabling pickup of primitives.

CO = SL CustomObjects

[upper vapor]

idk

i don't use MER

[unique crypt]

I dont remember MER having ability to have actions on warhead events

[celest thorn]

PMER is what does that

I've got a question really stupid should i do that if a player tries to use an item invalid it gets kicked for "You got shreked "

instead of not equiping the item

nvm the game sends a number for saying plz remove it

[thin shuttle]

Idk exactly

But of what i have been said yeah

[unique crypt]

Had to move y from 1000 to 300

🦆

[restive turret]

ye cus the distance got changed

[unique crypt]

DetailedMTF

sadly i didnt grab detailedGateB

[thin shuttle]

I am 100% sure i played on it

At least once

[thin shuttle]

Me when i directly wrote inside the plugin to soustract the value instead of modifying the shematic lol

[unique crypt]

I also put a janitor keycard on top of the crate and a painkiller inside

painkiller saved me a few times 💀

[restive turret]

well I aint no schematic guy so idc about that

[thin shuttle]

Also what the purposes of this change ?

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/tappcpid.mp4

I know this is not impressive at all but looks so cool

[restive turret]

to making close of all the prefabs?

[thin shuttle]

But why ?

I was kinda liking every layer being separated by 1000 meter

Lol

[restive turret]

how would I know? I joined far before it was changed

[upper vapor]

because of flickering

float precision is ass

[thin shuttle]

Oh ?

There was issue with it?

[restive turret]

and maybe htis ye

[upper vapor]

at 70K objects start to distort at an insane rate

-# personal experience

[thin shuttle]

70 000 meter

[upper vapor]

yes

[thin shuttle]

We was never these far lol

[upper vapor]

70K unities

well SL never did that

but at 1000 you can already see distortions

[thin shuttle]

Uhm ?

Only time i found distortion was because of the RelativePositioningToy

[celest thorn]

what distortion?

[thin shuttle]

You never seen the bug ?

[celest thorn]

no?

[thin shuttle]

It's got fixed now

[upper vapor]

you can see a bit of shaking on the player model on surface if you have surface at y=1000

[celest thorn]

Ohh i thought that was normal

lol

[upper vapor]

yeah it's normal because floats are shit for precision

[thin shuttle]

But before modifying size of of the RelativePositionToy was making object very weird

[celest thorn]

yea i thought it was for that

[thin shuttle]

Oh okay

[celest thorn]

wait a question what was the button for canceling an item?

[restive turret]

the other click

or r

[celest thorn]

fr r does that too?

[restive turret]

for grenades

[celest thorn]

ok so then there's a bug on my code

oh

[restive turret]

for usable item it is usually the other click

right click i think

[celest thorn]

Hmmm it seems it doesn't work

now its time to investigate sl

[unique crane]

So what exactly did you achieve

[celest thorn]

Adding items, Making the player able to use items and in their hands

crazy i know

the most basic features of the game

[restive turret]

[celest thorn]

and this

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/t9kt1b9c.png

idk i thought it was funny (under heavy request from maro)

[restive turret]

[upper vapor]

right margin

[celest thorn]

i know that should look better i know

who cares lol it just says ItemIdenfier.None

[upper vapor]

just disable it

[celest thorn]

is that linux i see

[upper vapor]

yes

[celest thorn]

oh no

can you even play sl?

[upper vapor]

yes

[celest thorn]

im so sorry tho you cannot play rust

you would love the russian screaming

[upper vapor]

i wouldn't play anything else other than minecraft and SL

[celest thorn]

idk i love playing so many games

so for me it would be like sad

not being able to play some titles

[restive turret]

he can i think

[celest thorn]

no?

EAC

[restive turret]

Linux-enabled servers work but the player base is tiny.

[celest thorn]

https://www.protondb.com/app/252490

[upper vapor]

do not look up rust on protondb

[upper vapor]

yea

[celest thorn]

you cannot play official servers

if you play outside of those cheaters are so many

like crazy

[restive turret]

who TF want to play official

[celest thorn]

Cheaters exist

so no cheaters is official

[upper vapor]

play zig instead

[celest thorn]

wait tho

he cannot play the best game ever for grinding

[restive turret]

I play PVE server

[celest thorn]

tarkov

(probably for the best)

[restive turret]

tarkov suck ass , and even can run via singleplayer

[celest thorn]

no?

pve needs connection

SPT doesn't

[restive turret]

ye spt should work, official not

[upper vapor]

okay that's cool but wtf am i looking at

[restive turret]

AI

[celest thorn]

Gambling

but with 8080 micro

thats like the average slot animation

when you win 2c

[upper vapor]

steamhappy on steroids

[celest thorn]

lol

[slow grotto]

I've got an open question that will help with a project I'm working on. What is the best/worst mistake you've seen in a plugin or dev question?

Either on a bad coding practice side or straight up game breaking.

[celest thorn]

Have you ever seen russian plugins?

you will have fun

with them

if they don't crash your server, they will melt your cpu

but the worst one i've ever seen was someone using threads for sending broadcast

[restive turret]

not using latest csproj strucutre

but thats personal preference

[celest thorn]

let me see if i have the code

it was so fucking funny

i was crying laughing

the guy got even paid 60 bucks for doing the plugin

[restive turret]

Thread.Start(() => {while(true) Server.SendBroadcast("oh no") });

[unique crane]

AI slop

[upper vapor]

immediate crashout after looking at a new repo

[unique crane]

The only time I saw it

[restive turret]

thats me

[unique crane]

they had the dancing pole for 939

[restive turret]

the first i check if its using new, if still using old i just stop looking at it

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/8e1iwdrd.png

YOU CAN SET COOLDOWN FOR ANY USABLE ITEM?????

THATS SOO COOL

[restive turret]

ye?

personal AND global

[celest thorn]

I mean im doing a packet so its gonna be just player ig

BUt THATS SO COOL i didn't know that

[restive turret]

if you want i can share the usable times

so you can share into a dictionary

or custom file

[celest thorn]

i just made a system that worked automatically

so even if nw changes them im fine

for some reason the client spams the packet to the server for usable

so i just track of that

[restive turret]

every item 1 minute usable

[celest thorn]

    private static Dictionary<Player, Timer> _clientTimers = new();
    private const int DEBOUNCE_DELAY_MS = 500;

    public override bool OnMessageRecieved(Playerclient, NetworkReader reader)
    {
        StatusType status = (StatusType)reader.ReadByte();
        ushort serial = reader.ReadUShort();
        
        ItemIdentifier? item = client.Items.FirstOrDefault(x => x.SerialNumber == serial, ItemIdentifier.None);
        
        if (item == ItemIdentifier.None)
        {
            client.Disconnect("trans girls 13 - cheaters 0");
            return true;
        }

        if (client.IsUsingItem)
        {
            ResetDebounceTimer(client);
            return false;
        }
        
        // TODO: Event.

        bool cooldown = false;
        float cooldownTime = 20;
        
        switch (status)
        {
            case StatusType.Start:
                if (cooldown)
                {
                    NetworkWriter wr = new NetworkWriter();
                    wr.WriteUShort(NetworkMessages.ItemCooldownMessage);
                    wr.WriteUShort(serial);
                    wr.WriteFloat(cooldownTime);
                    
                    client.SendMirrorData(wr);
                    return true;
                }
                
                NetworkWriter send = new NetworkWriter();
                send.WriteUShort(NetworkMessages.StatusMessage);
                send.WriteByte((byte)status);
                send.WriteUShort(serial);
                
                client.SendMirrorData(send);
                client.IsUsingItem = true;
                break;
            
            case StatusType.Cancel:
                if (!client.IsUsingItem)
                    return false;
                
                if (_clientTimers.TryGetValue(client, out Timer existingTimer))
                {
                    existingTimer.Stop();
                    existingTimer.Dispose();
                    _clientTimers.Remove(client);
                }

                NetworkWriter sendcancel = new NetworkWriter();
                sendcancel.WriteUShort(NetworkMessages.StatusMessage);
                sendcancel.WriteByte((byte)status);
                sendcancel.WriteUShort(serial);
    
                client.SendMirrorData(sendcancel);
                client.IsUsingItem = false;
                break;
        }
        
        return true;
    }
    
    private void ResetDebounceTimer(Client client)
    {
        if (_clientTimers.TryGetValue(client, out Timer existingTimer))
        {
            existingTimer.Stop();
            existingTimer.Dispose();
        }
        
        Timer timer = new Timer(DEBOUNCE_DELAY_MS);
        timer.AutoReset = false;
        timer.Elapsed += (sender, e) =>
        {
            client.IsUsingItem = false;
            _clientTimers.Remove(client);
            timer.Dispose();
        };
        
        _clientTimers[client] = timer;
        timer.Start();
    }

[restive turret]

holy shit ass discord format

send as a txt file

[upper vapor]

why screaming snake case

[celest thorn]

what

[upper vapor]

why do you pass the default as the default

[celest thorn]

what?

[celest thorn]

thats fine?

[upper vapor]

this is redundant

[celest thorn]

Why should it be?

[restive turret]

btw you dont need to do ? if you pass default

[upper vapor]

why is it nullable even

[restive turret]

you dont know if None is default

[upper vapor]

ye

[celest thorn]

i don't think none would be an item

to be honest

so thats why i did that

if its None 100% is not an item

[upper vapor]

why do we have a nullable struct that will never be nullable, and you state the default value explicitly, which is not null btw

[celest thorn]

oh for that i forgot

thanks for making me see that

before it was null

[upper vapor]

np

send the client a null item

see how it reacts

[restive turret]

blow up

[upper vapor]

-# new crash exploit

[celest thorn]

blows up

mirror explodes

and screams about invalid packet

so thats why

default is far easier to keep track

[slow grotto]

Oh, should I be reporting those. I just keep them in my back pocket to crash out people I suspect as cheating /s

[celest thorn]

funniest one

[slow grotto]

Though I have found a couple

[celest thorn]

just send them to an invalid camera

and their ears will not be with us anymore

the more you spam them the more louder it gets

i found out while developing a client side camera toy

for a tourney

[upper vapor]

mega troll

[unique crypt]

in gmod you could just send a "cam.End3D()/cam.End3D2D()" to crash the client 💀

[celest thorn]

or

just

[slow grotto]

I think one was giving the player None ammo type. Haven't checked if that was patched though, suspect it was.

[celest thorn]

stop their pc

and melt them

with gmod you can do so much more damage

lol

than scp sl

btw can someone explain to me why on this server build i do 2x the fps i do on a normal server?

maybe too many packets lol

[upper vapor]

i don't need to do that cuz my headphones already start beeping randomly when there's no sound playing

[celest thorn]

wtf

[slow grotto]

You get a secret dev build they don't want us to know about?

[upper vapor]

maybe cuz

less mirror bs

[restive turret]

what

[upper vapor]

no players

no nothing

[celest thorn]

i do 2x fps with the fake server im building

and its really strange

[restive turret]

well idk then

[celest thorn]

vanilla sl with myself i do 20 fps

here 120

there's something strange

a mystery

lol

[slow grotto]

Like client FPS or server TPS? Cause I'll be taking that tyvm

[unique crypt]

like what

I think they fixed most of the slowhacking

[upper vapor]

zero i think you'll have a comment similar to this at some point

[celest thorn]

I have a comment made by me saying

“SL is a bitch… but so am i”

[slow grotto]

I suspect it's the hidden capybaras taking up those frames

[upper vapor]

the hubes

[slow grotto]

Too hot to handle

Or he forgot to add the room of 1million polygon chairs hiding the the void

[upper vapor]

trueing

[unique crypt]

https://github.com/tyabus/LateJoinExtended

Is there something I can improve/add in/to the plugin?

[upper vapor]

slnx format

and an sdk-style project

also i think you forgot to read your README

[unique crypt]

ye i forgot to change the template

[unique crypt]

dont know what that is

and i despise the new visual studio i have to use

[upper vapor]

just use Rider

[hearty shard]

use rider

[static meteor]

You dont need this

    public override void LoadConfigs()
    {
        Config = this.TryLoadConfig("config.yml", out Config? config)
            ? config
            : new Config();
    }

You can just use Instance.Config instead

[hearty shard]

i dont like that the coroutine isnt cancelled properly

[upper vapor]

ye

[upper vapor]

just a fancier and better solution format, though the sln format isn't really made for humans lol
if you have the .net 10 sdk consider using it

you know actually

the above suggestions have nothing to do with features

[unique crypt]

noted

[static meteor]

Configs are automatically loaded by LabApi

[restive turret]

and never be null

[upper vapor]

false statement

[restive turret]

I DO NOT care about other assemblies

it is never null in my own

[upper vapor]

it's null before the plugin is loaded

[restive turret]

ban

[hearty shard]

evil

[unique crypt]

maybe i should add the check that latejoin_seconds in config_gameplay.txt is actually 0, but idk how to get the setting

[upper vapor]

ConfigFile

[unique crypt]

Also I just realized there is no overwatch role check 🥶

[restive turret]

@celest thorn if u open source it i might do some PR or something

[slender lynx]

this is probably something best to speak about in dms

[celest thorn]

im rn working on making the commands and its easy idk how tf none has ever thought about making shit like this

its not too complicated

[restive turret]

why dms

[celest thorn]

idk

[slender lynx]

imporant information

or something

idk

im just fuckin with u

[restive turret]

important info that can extract from server with just a plugin

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/kpw4wo9h.png

command handler is finally done im free

[restive turret]

no embed

[icy knoll]

ip grabber

[celest thorn]

sure bud

it was this the pic

idk why the embed doesn't work

[restive turret]

ye ye sure

[plain gazelle]

brain is half asleep

best way to get waiting players during the waiting phase is to get Player.ReadyList right?

also, using ICommandSender.HasPermission(string), does stuff like "owner" work, from the base game permission configs?

[celest thorn]

Always use that

[plain gazelle]

i was about to make my own hashset to count players during waiting phase and roundstarting events x.x