plugins-dev-chat

[hearty shard]

No bugs, just a missing feature

[wispy dirge]

👍

[teal junco]

One day they will make a 1509 pickup wrapper

[wispy dirge]

probaably next update

where my map will likely break again <3

[teal junco]

well my map didnt break

escept the ones in the gates

[true cedar]

why are you welsh

[wispy dirge]

cus im welsh

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[teal junco]

well

fix it

[true cedar]

my condolences

[wispy dirge]

do you want me to go back in time and be born elsewhere

[teal junco]

Become American, trust me you will fucking love it here

[wispy dirge]

i'd rather not be shot up 😭

[teal junco]

If anyone says otherwise, they're just a liberal.

[alpine glade]

Eve

[restive turret]

Yet

[teal junco]

I just dont have much complex enough to break from a minor update

i suffer the same as anyone else in a major update

dont worry

[true cedar]

yea

[wispy dirge]

damn...

[restive turret]

Show you stuff so i can assure you will suffer more
This is a joke, i will never do such a thing

[south socket]

all bugs are missing features change my mind

[teal junco]

do i have to do something special for custom items to function

one second

ill send

https://github.com/icedchai/CompoundV24/blob/labapi-dev/CompoundV24%2FItems%2FCompoundV.cs

i may have missed something obvious

[south socket]

compound what

i need that irl

[teal junco]

compound......... Vuh

[restive turret]

What's that item

I don't recognize

1853

[teal junco]

green goo

ohhh

[restive turret]

Aaaaa

[teal junco]

Is it not supported

[restive turret]

What

[teal junco]

or like

idk, it seemed like my server was not even attempting to run the code onused

[restive turret]

Call the base, enable debug log

Might be removing item before actually used as always

I hate that

Enable debug, add calling base and see if works

But i haven't tested green goo

[grand flower]

currently trying to install my new 8tb ssd without dismantling my entire pc

it's looking to be a major pita

[soft depot]

bruh just make a NAS at that point if you need that much density in your storage 😭

[grand flower]

Nah need it on my PC for work

never doing watercooling again

i hate it

[sinful bronze]

Can i eat it

[grand flower]

sure

[soft depot]

bruh you need an extra 8 TB of storage locally for work 😭

what are you doingggg

[grand flower]

game dev

multiple projects, engines, branches etc

[upper vapor]

Object.Instantiate(icedchai).StartCoroutine(PlaySL())

"Hey bro, I know you really like to play SL with me often, but I feel like it's too much sometimes. I need a bit more time for myself. I still wanna play the game with you while giving myself a bit more space to catch up on other stuff. I hope we can work this out :3"

Something like this could work ig

Doesn't seem like an attack but it still conveys the message

[grand flower]

finally

glad I won the gamble because i did not remember where my last free nvme slot was

[celest thorn]

asking a simple question a mono game has always the MonoBleedingEdge folder am i right?

[pulsar locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869592968015773707/1436144507107147847/U33umY5.png?ex=690e894c&is=690d37cc&hm=cc5f99e5ad5745f0a1d3a02538ec7de83561a70468f12a220676169ad0e5ce9f&

My school's hallways are sounding like a wind tunnel rn

[grand flower]

worth

[celest thorn]

this is crazy storage a nas pratically

[grand flower]

except it's all inside my pc

heh

[celest thorn]

like how much did you pay for all of this storage?

[grand flower]

2000$ CAD total probably

around that number at least

[hearty shard]

Rich boy

May i have money too

[grand flower]

not particularly rich

i just buy stuff i need for work

[upper vapor]

Work (W)
I'd say it's more like an L

[grand flower]

badumtiss

[sinful bronze]

What are SSD

[grand flower]

all of them

[sinful bronze]

7 TB SSD

Sounds like

[grand flower]

8TB

[sinful bronze]

Nuclear Reactor

8 TB

[restive turret]

Yes

[worn gull]

If I create a GameObject with new GameObject() I need to spawn it with NetworkServer.Spawn() or what? (I want to create a parent gameobject of some texts)

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[worn gull]

            var parentObject = new GameObject($"{customRoomLocation.RoomName}-{Guid.NewGuid()}");
            var room = Room.List.FirstOrDefault(room => room.Name == customRoomLocation.RoomName);
            parentObject.transform.position = room?.Transform.TransformPoint(customRoomLocation.Offset) ?? Vector3.zero;
            foreach (var toyData in _textToy)
            {
                var textToy = TextToy.Create(parentObject.transform);
                textToy.GameObject.name = "Text";
                textToy.TextFormat = toyData.Text;
                textToy.Position = toyData.Offset;
            }```
This is the current code for it and this way it doesn't place it in the correct position but if the parentobject is a primitive then it place it in the correct position and my question is how can I make this code to work?

[restive turret]

NetworkServer spawn only exists for objects that has a network identity and also exists the prefab (or smth) on the client too.
and since the Parenting only works with objects that has NetworkIdentitiy your solution would be use the room transform, and the position use the offset plus the CustomRoomLocationOffset / Zero (if that doesnt exists)

so

var room = Room.List.FirstOrDefault(room => room.Name == customRoomLocation.RoomName);
if (room == null)
    return;
Vector3 mainOffset = room.Transform.TransformPoint(customRoomLocation.Offset) ?? Vector3.zero; //idk what this returns of something so please check if this actually what u want

foreach (var toyData in _textToy)
{
      var textToy = TextToy.Create(room.transform);
      textToy.GameObject.name = "Text";
      textToy.TextFormat = toyData.Text;
      textToy.Position = toyData.Offset + mainOffset;
}

[worn gull]

Ah okay, thanks for the help 😄

[upper vapor]

use an invisible non-collidable primitive as the parent

slejm's solution works for rooms but not for synthetic parents

[restive turret]

or that

[worn gull]

Hmmmm

[upper vapor]

donut

[grave eagle]

No 💀

[teal junco]

thanks axwabo, im realizing that im having a major communication deficit with my friend and i will try to resolve it including this

[upper vapor]

Np

Sometimes you just gotta have a discussion yk

[slender depot]

Is there any event for receiving a radio message?

[icy knoll]

OnReceivingVoiceMessage

or smth

then just check channel

[slender depot]

I dunno if it's just for the radio

[icy knoll]

it's not

but check the channel

lol

[slender depot]

I didnt know you could do that

alright

I'm an idiot

[slender depot]

Which events are called when player receives as a loadout or gets added an item by RA?

[teal junco]

obviously patch ItemBase constructor

[wispy dirge]

is there potentially a way to hide certain elements on wearable armor

like i want to hide the helmet when a scientist wears comabt armor

[true cedar]

no

[wispy dirge]

[carmine prawn]

[upper vapor]

InventoryExtensions.ItemAdded

PlayerReceivingLoadoutEventArgs

[upper vapor]

make the armor with primitives

[teal junco]

i remember this one, still a classic

back when i first started developing

[upper vapor]

fucking furry

[teal junco]

That is your takeaway

[upper vapor]

precisely

[celest thorn]

lets be honest you are doing friendly fire

[upper vapor]

i know

[celest thorn]

when can you stop doing friendly fire

https://tenor.com/view/friendly-fire-friendly-fire-will-not-be-tolerated-throwing-hypocrite-gif-13255289749517161030

[upper vapor]

never

[celest thorn]

I love this death screen

how many times i shot fucking civilians as a mistake

btw aside from the jokes

i remember this used to work but it doesn't seems so

        projectile.PreviousOwner = new Footprint(host ? Server?.Host.ReferenceHub : player.ReferenceHub);

because im spawning a projectile and want everyone to take damage

[upper vapor]

Server?.Host

[upper vapor]

are you doing this on death

[celest thorn]

Host can be null for some reason

[celest thorn]

no

[upper vapor]

but Server is static

which event then

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/e2008900c933aa9d6551e56708bb185f52cc73b7/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/Server/Server.cs#L28

[celest thorn]

CoinFlip

im just force activating it with a command

[upper vapor]

and how are you spawning the projectile

[celest thorn]

    /// <summary>
    /// Spawns a projectile for the player.
    /// </summary>
    /// <param name="player">The player to spawn the projectile.</param>
    /// <param name="itemType">The type of projectile.</param>
    /// <param name="host">Is Host throwing it.</param>
    /// <returns>If the projectile has spawned.</returns>
    public static bool SpawnLiveProjectile(this Player player, ItemType itemType, bool host = true)
    {
        if (!InventoryItemLoader.TryGetItem(itemType, out ThrowableItem ib))
        {
            Logger.Error($"Provided item type {itemType} is not a throwable item!");
            return false;
        }

        ThrownProjectile projectile = Object.Instantiate(ib.Projectile, player.Position, player.Rotation);

        PickupSyncInfo psi = new PickupSyncInfo(itemType, ib.Weight, ItemSerialGenerator.GenerateNext())
        {
            Locked = true,
        };

        projectile.Info = psi;
        projectile.PreviousOwner = new Footprint(host ? Server.Host?.ReferenceHub : player.ReferenceHub);
        projectile.ServerActivate();
        NetworkServer.Spawn(projectile.gameObject);
        return true;
    }

[upper vapor]

me when you can just

[celest thorn]

there's no method for that

[upper vapor]

TimedGrenadeProjectile.SpawnActive

[celest thorn]

Its not just grenades

lol

[celest thorn]

Didn't know that

but still why like if its server.host doing it its now not making any damage

[upper vapor]

can you try it with the host and show what happens

[celest thorn]

I can tell you rn

it doesn't do anything

like players don't take damage and thats it

[celest thorn]

host: true is always like this and i don't do host: false where i spawn it

i just don't take damage but for a grenade the explosion works fine

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/6sn8ydb4.mp4

here

[upper vapor]

make the footprint a Tutorial role ig

[celest thorn]

like why it stopped workig i remember it was 100% working

[upper vapor]

mandela effect

[celest thorn]

nah

[upper vapor]

maybe you used it a different way?

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/ara8l3kf.png

I found a guy saying it on exiled

[upper vapor]

wonderful

[celest thorn]

im schizo

but i remember shit

[upper vapor]

yeah

[celest thorn]

Wonderful found a solution

but

but

[upper vapor]

try this

[celest thorn]

it explodes the client and server

[upper vapor]

so it's not a solution

[celest thorn]

default(Footprint)

base game

works with this

but it sends a wall of text on the server

lol

Wait its my fault???

[upper vapor]

yep it's because the role is None
can't apply damage a sa NoneRole

[upper vapor]

.

default footprint would have a role of 173

[celest thorn]

Yes

and no name

The problem is

[upper vapor]

10 shocking facts that will shock the rocks out of your socks

[celest thorn]

that for some reason

the ev.Player in OnPlayerSpawningRagdoll

explodes

[upper vapor]

???

[celest thorn]

[2025-11-08 07:36:08.707 +01:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] 'NullReferenceException' occurred while invoking 'OnPlayerSpawningRagdoll' on 'TheCore.Handlers.CosmeticsHandler': 'Object reference not set to an instance of an object', stack trace:
                                   at LabApi.Features.Permissions.Providers.DefaultPermissionsProvider.GetPlayerGroup (LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player player) [0x00000] in <08eb9de5dc254471b89ceae24008b1b4>:0
                                   at LabApi.Features.Permissions.Providers.DefaultPermissionsProvider.HasPermissions (LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player player, System.String[] permissions) [0x0000d] in <08eb9de5dc254471b89ceae24008b1b4>:0
                                   at LabApi.Features.Permissions.PermissionsManager+<>c__DisplayClass7_0.<HasPermissions>b__0 (LabApi.Features.Permissions.IPermissionsProvider x) [0x00000] in <08eb9de5dc254471b89ceae24008b1b4>:0
                                   at System.Linq.Enumerable.Any[TSource] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] source, System.Func`2[T,TResult] predicate) [0x0002c] in <7ae67de414c34a0397e0ee5801c5da5a>:0
                                   at LabApi.Features.Permissions.PermissionsManager.HasPermissions (LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player player, System.String[] permissions) [0x0001e] in <08eb9de5dc254471b89ceae24008b1b4>:0
                                   at TheCore.Handlers.CustomKeycardHandler.OnPlayerSpawningRagdoll (LabApi.Events.Arguments.PlayerEvents.PlayerSpawningRagdollEventArgs ev) [0x0003b] in <1a4df67f46d44431ae2be8dd0dffd722>:0
                                   at LabApi.Events.EventManager.InvokeEvent[TEventArgs] (LabApi.Events.LabEventHandler`1[TEventArgs] eventHandler, TEventArgs args) [0x0001d] in <08eb9de5dc254471b89ceae24008b1b4>:0

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/ekeoumk4.png

Because of this

for some reason

[upper vapor]

is Permission is null in your config?

[celest thorn]

nope

[upper vapor]

well

seems like Player is null

[celest thorn]

but its a ragdoll :trolling:

[upper vapor]

GET THE FUCK OUT COPILOT

I CAN'T SEE THE LINE

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHHAHAHA

[upper vapor]

motherf

log ev.Player

if null

return

that's the best i can give you

how is player null? idfk

[celest thorn]

Should i do ev.Player == null?

in logging

or something else?

like the gameobject

[upper vapor]

the player itself

[celest thorn]

nope

the player isn't null

[celest thorn]

i will settle with this ngl

[upper vapor]

impossible

[celest thorn]

Im telling you

lol

[upper vapor]

what if

this

is null

[celest thorn]

idk

but for now i need to send this

because they will cut down my throat

if i don't

whats the funniest one role i could make the player die from?

Destroyed :trolling:

[upper vapor]

filmmaker

[celest thorn]

lets see if destroyed works

because if it is its gonna be funny asf

destroyed by a grenade

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/e2008900c933aa9d6551e56708bb185f52cc73b7/LabApi/Features/Permissions/Providers/DefaultPermissionsProvider.cs#L48C13-L49C1

maybe permissions.yml is broken?

[celest thorn]

no because it doesn't happen

when i do it without

[upper vapor]

without what

[celest thorn]

without the default(Footprint)

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

i wonder what happens if the footprint's referencehub is null

[celest thorn]

Btw don't wanna make you scared it should be working fine

because

default is used by the base game

[upper vapor]

where

but base-game doesn't do permission checks

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/1onp4omy.png

[upper vapor]

when a ragdoll is created

[waxen kayak]

how to change players speed

fpc.FirstPersonController.FpcModule.Motor.Velocity = velocity; => General Error IP: 127.0.0.1 Port: 7777

[celest thorn]

Via effects

[waxen kayak]

i mean change speed to a vector3

[upper vapor]

you can't change pretty much anything on the FpcMotor for clients
ues MovementBoost or Disabled

you can't

[waxen kayak]

wait

can i just change the gravity to apply speed？

[upper vapor]

pushing players is only possible by

• overriding position every frame (jittery)
• spawning a miniscule waypoint that only affects the player with fake sync (complicated)

[upper vapor]

yes but they have to be above ground for that to apply

plus it accelerates

• fall damage

[waxen kayak]

? do we have waypoints?

[upper vapor]

WaypointToy

[waxen kayak]

are you mean this?https://github.com/marchellc/ScpSlAssembly/blob/4cad652591ef45c21b4ba60e43fe81a78344f8f3/Assembly-CSharp/RelativePositioning/WaypointBase.cs#L7

[celest thorn]

this shouldn't be Public

at all

[waxen kayak]

but even we have waypoint how to make it affect on player?

[celest thorn]

This is 100% in violation of the usage lol

[waxen kayak]

not my repos

[celest thorn]

doesn't unity prohibit the uploading lol?

[waxen kayak]

im more curious on this

[celest thorn]

you make a waypoint toy so small attached to the player

[waxen kayak]

transform.parent?

[celest thorn]

there's already a mehtod

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/e2008900c933aa9d6551e56708bb185f52cc73b7/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/AdminToys/WaypointToy.cs#L33

[waxen kayak]

what

[celest thorn]

        Waypoint = WaypointToy.Create(Owner.Position);
        Waypoint.BoundsSize = new Vector3(0.1f, 0.1f, 0.1f);

this is what i do

and then i just push the player back

by moving the waypoint

i cannot show you the code because of licenses

i have

but it works in this way

and then you destroy it

[waxen kayak]

ok

I know

[celest thorn]

BTW BIG important thing

Normalize it

Please

else bhop :trolling:

[waxen kayak]

sooo

waypoint have collision

and it affect on players

perfect

[upper vapor]

honestly why do you upload this if there's a decompiler built into your IDE

[waxen kayak]

not my repo

[upper vapor]

ah

[waxen kayak]

idk why but github have it

[upper vapor]

we're DMCAing them 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[waxen kayak]

and i cant touch my computer currently

[upper vapor]

right

[waxen kayak]

soo why we have waypoint

[upper vapor]

to move the player

you move the waypoint

=

the player in it moves

[waxen kayak]

I mean why nw add waypoint

[upper vapor]

elevators

[waxen kayak]

?

[upper vapor]

https://youtu.be/XADYO51sUwU

[waxen kayak]

not transform.parent?

[upper vapor]

this video explains why waypoints exist

[waxen kayak]

im in china and I cant access youtube sadly

[waxen kayak]

thanks

checking now

[upper vapor]

np

[waxen kayak]

like this?

[unique crane]

tryitandsee.com

[upper vapor]

https://tryitands.ee

[waxen kayak]

https://tryitands.ee/

[upper vapor]

maybe don't use a rigidbody

[waxen kayak]

wtf is this url

[hearty shard]

hi ax

hello david

[waxen kayak]

okay

cant work

i see a red block fly away

    if (velocity.magnitude < 0.1f)
    {
        velocity = player.CameraTransform.forward * 5f;
    }
    else
    {
        velocity = velocity.normalized * Math.Max(velocity.magnitude * 5f, 10f);
        //velocity.y = 0.3f;
    }
    w = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.WaypointToy.Create(player.Position - velocity.normalized * 0.5f,networkSpawn:false);
    w.BoundsSize = new Vector3(0.4f, 0.4f, 0.4f);
    w.VisualizeBounds = true;
    
    w.Spawn();
    StaticUnityMethods.OnUpdate += StaticUnityMethods_OnUpdate;
    Timing.CallDelayed(WaitForDoneTime, () =>
    {
        if (fpc != null)
            fpc.Gravity = originalGravity;
    StaticUnityMethods.OnUpdate -= StaticUnityMethods_OnUpdate;
        w.Destroy();
    });

    return true;
}
public WaypointToy w;
public Vector3 velocity;
public void StaticUnityMethods_OnUpdate()
{
        w.Position += velocity * UnityEngine.Time.deltaTime;
        w.UpdateWaypointChildren();
}``` cant work

[spare zodiac]

eula violation

[wispy dirge]

yes but whats the method to hide the whole armor

[upper vapor]

WearableSync

[waxen kayak]

can someone tell me how to push players?

[unique crane]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1431362077213065371

[waxen kayak]

checking now thank

[woven quiver]

where can i get models and rooms prefab

[celest thorn]

you can't get rooms prefabs on the server nor spawn them

[woven quiver]

for unity

[upper vapor]

AssetRipper

[woven quiver]

how can i use

[waxen kayak]

why

[upper vapor]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=assetripper

[woven quiver]

?

[woven quiver]

what

[slender depot]

Is there a way to get the player's speed like in overwatch gui?

[restive turret]

Velocity

[slender depot]

thanks

[woven quiver]

???

[upper vapor]

look up "assetripper" on google and use that to extract the rooms

[restive turret]

Or there is a server that has blender or unity ripped ones

[hearty shard]

You

[restive turret]

Hi

[hearty shard]

Hi

[celest thorn]

Yes

I don’t remember the command

[upper vapor]

Set up a github action for it

[upper vapor]

/extract

[tranquil yacht]

hi

i want to learn to create plugins

can someone help me?

if it is done well i could pay

[upper vapor]

!c#

[regal lake]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki

i'd suggest watching a course on C#

there are some good ones that are a few hours long

[tranquil yacht]

thanks

[upper vapor]

np

[spare zodiac]

we got this

[slender depot]

Is there a way to get what damaged the player in the PlayerEvents::Hurting Event?

[icy knoll]

if(DamageBase is StandardDamageHandler handler) handler.Damage

[slender depot]

"get what damaged the player"

[icy knoll]

oh mb

[slender depot]

for example 207, poisoned

yeah alright

everyone can missunderstand stuff

[icy knoll]

then you have to check the type of damage handler overall

[slender depot]

I think there was a way to get the damage string

like the id of the damage and the other less important stuff

[icy knoll]

https://github.com/DiscordLabSCP/DiscordLab/blob/main/DiscordLab.DeathLogs/Events.cs#L177

this is what i use

[slender depot]

AMN

DAMN

I think there is another way

a lil faster one

The server metrics stuff

yeah I found it

[icy knoll]

yeah you can use that too tbh

[slender depot]

And it's faster than checking the handlers\

cuz it gives you the Id of the damage

so guns have 9 I think

so if the id's 9 then it needs to be a firearm

[icy knoll]

i can’t remember why i didn’t use metrics tbh

[slender depot]

It's a lot more confusing

and also likes to break things a lot

Plus overall handlers is cleaner to the eye

[icy knoll]

eh

you do you

[true cedar]

hi chat

[icy knoll]

heyo

[slender depot]

hiiiii

(Sorry for the ping, forgot to turn if off)

[true cedar]

idm

[restive turret]

Hi 🐈

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup-nervous-cat-cat-nervous-cat-gulp-gif-17492267992575590303

[worn gull]

Currently waiting at least 3 hours at Füzesabony cuz we missed the connection because of the delay xddd

[upper vapor]

we love 80-as vonal

should've asked the conductor to make the train wait

-# can't do that if the connecting train is higher rank

[worn gull]

Good to know that bruh

[slender depot]

How would SCP3114DamageHandler get the Subtype SkinSteal?

Also what's the damagehandler for MicroHID exploding?

[slender depot]

Turns out metrics change and don't do good as a damagetype identifier

[celest thorn]

Hiii chat

[celest thorn]

MicroHidDamageHandler

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/txenh7go.png

[slender depot]

I didn't see that

thanks

also Hiiii

[celest thorn]

no problem

Hiiii how you doing :3

[slender depot]

Not bad

[celest thorn]

Nice

[slender depot]

Today i've realized that server metrics aren't really a reliable way to check damagetypes

[celest thorn]

btw i see you are working for an API

[slender depot]

Yep

[celest thorn]

if you want to check the damagetype is for overcharge check for disintegrate

[slender depot]

Alrighty

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/f6esj96n.png

disintegrate gets used ONLY here

[slender depot]

Quick change and now it works

[celest thorn]

eww regions

[slender depot]

It's for readability

I need it all in one place

[celest thorn]

ngl for me it does the opposite

lol

[slender depot]

Before I separate it into separate functions and stuff

that way I don't end up reading the code 30 times to see if I'm checking for for example scp1509

[celest thorn]

have you thought to use switch cases for the damage handler?

[slender depot]

I didn't think I could do that

Zamn

[upper vapor]

i don't think it's more readable

more clutter tbh

you can already collapse the else-if using your IDE

[celest thorn]

we agree on something, that isn't basic shapes

[upper vapor]

why does it take 3 clicks on the X button to close unity

[celest thorn]

because unity 🤷‍♀️

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[celest thorn]

Honestly ngl im gonna start making something on unity

but i need a plan

[upper vapor]

you're doomed

[celest thorn]

DOOM?

DR Doom??

[upper vapor]

no

[celest thorn]

[upper vapor]

make italy simulator

[celest thorn]

There's an RP game of the city where i went to school on roblox

and ngl it was fucking the same

lol

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

just wanna learn more of the networking and mirror because so i can mess up more with SL

[upper vapor]

MicroHidDamageHandler {Disintegrate: true} => DamageType.MicroHIDExplosion,
MicroHidDamageHandler microHid => microHid.FiringMode switch {...}

i love pattern matching

[celest thorn]

i love

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[celest thorn]

btw i forgot to ask how you doing and GM :3

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup-nervous-cat-cat-nervous-cat-gulp-gif-17492267992575590303

[celest thorn]

you are scared of talking???

[upper vapor]

yes

i'm just watching curry weigh

[celest thorn]

let me remove the woman section in my bio so you can be safe lol

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

woman = 😱

i know

[upper vapor]

infume reference

[celest thorn]

Personal experience im scared of myself

[slender depot]

How would the ExplosionDamageHandler get Explosion type Disruptor?

[upper vapor]

DisruptorDamageHandler?

[slender depot]

Nope

ExplosionDamageHandler

it has

[upper vapor]

that

[slender depot]

and explosiontype has

[upper vapor]

well

check the explosion type

[slender depot]

But like what exactly makes the explosiondamagehandler have the disruptor explosiontype?

[upper vapor]

oh

the disruptor just spawns an exploision at the furthest hit

[slender depot]

Oh

I didn't even know

[slender depot]

Yay

Finally finished damagetypes

[plush glade]

What's the best way to get a player's badge color in hex format

i.e. if I have a player with a pink badge how do I get #FF96DE

[hearty shard]

Misc class has it afaik

[plush glade]

🙏

[hearty shard]

Misc.AllowedColors

[plush glade]

That didn't end up working since idk how to get Misc.PlayerInfoColorTypes from UserGroup but I did find another way

string ownerColor = perkOwner.ReferenceHub.serverRoles.CurrentColor.ColorHex;

[restive turret]

This is how i did it
https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/LabApiExtensions/Extensions/DamageExtensions.cs

[slender depot]

{
    public Dictionary<ushort, ItemBase> Items;

    public Dictionary<ItemType, ushort> ReserveAmmo;

    public InventoryInfo()
    {
        Items = new Dictionary<ushort, ItemBase>();
        ReserveAmmo = new Dictionary<ItemType, ushort>();
    }
}``` 

For what does the key ushort stand for in Items? ItemBase already has the serial

Is it the slot number or something like that?

[hearty shard]

Amount

I'd assume

eg 1000 ammo

or 1 ammo

[slender depot]

Couldn't the amount be in bytes?

[hearty shard]

Oh you mean for Items

[slender depot]

Item amount i mean

yeah

[hearty shard]

im half asleep my bad

uhhh

where is this

[slender depot]

InventoryInfo

Inventory

[hearty shard]

yes but where is it being used

you could use InventoryRoleInfo as a replacement

the other one seems to be of a player and would allow checking for a specific serial via dictionary call rather than FIrstOrDefault and checking serial

idk

[slender depot]

I dunno

It's used in Inventory

[hearty shard]

ok well

what r u using it for

[slender depot]

searching for items by serials

and yeah

[hearty shard]

in a specific players inventory?

[slender depot]

yep

turns out it is for serials after all

[hearty shard]

yea

although

[hearty shard]

Item might be better

Item.Get(ushort)

or TryGet

[slender depot]

but I'm checking all the players for that item

[slender depot]

I didn't read this correctly

[hearty shard]

imo a single dictionary call is more efficient

but yea

(also it gives the labapi not basegame so thats a bonus)

[royal mica]

ushort is usually for serials

Ragdolls have ushort serial as well IIRC

[unique crane]

Yes

[restive turret]

sadly no more than 55565 serial

[unique crane]

65001*

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[hearty shard]

you..

[royal mica]

so thats why the ragdoll as always spawned with 1

[restive turret]

no thats a bug lol

[royal mica]

ik i just joked about it

[restive turret]

also its not 1 its 0

[royal mica]

you gotta save on serial resources, it is limited

[restive turret]

or 1? idk

[burnt hearth]

fix lab api

[restive turret]

cant fix something thats perfect

[celest thorn]

sure...

[burnt hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-cell-gif-11009529955506497046

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/check-out-my-perfedt-form-its-perfect-dbz-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-sparking-zero-gif-16092105513826849020

Sparking zero my beloved

[burnt hearth]

real

[celest thorn]

"Look at my perfect form its perfect"

[burnt hearth]

*"check out my perfect form, its perfect!"

[celest thorn]

it wasn't look at my perfect form

am i going crazy

[burnt hearth]

no

you are going crazy

[celest thorn]

thanks :3

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRM-myGGZTE

Ngl tho this remains probably the funniest thing connected to Cell with ballin cell

[burnt hearth]

[celest thorn]

honestly

i think NW should like take the F section more

[celest thorn]

Hiii chat

[slender depot]

Hiiiii

Does OnReceivingVoiceMessage also get triggered when a radio that's on the ground receives a transmission?

[celest thorn]

i don't think so

you can test it tho with a dummy

[slender depot]

I'm not sure

[celest thorn]

let me check the source code

[slender depot]

Can I make a dummy execute a command?

[celest thorn]

yes

executeas

is a command

[slender depot]

I mean a consolecommand

not the RA one

[celest thorn]

yea every command

just for RA use / and for console use .

[icy knoll]

yes

i think

because, it is a voice message that a user receives

[celest thorn]

No it doens't

for what i've seen

[icy knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest thorn]

but maybe im wrong

[celest thorn]

yo lumi i have a question

can i ask it in dms?

[icy knoll]

hi

uh

sure

[slender depot]

Question still stands

[celest thorn]

test it

try it with a dummy

[slender depot]

I'm trying

Turns out no

It's only when the player gets send the sync

[restive turret]

[celest thorn]

nah just a simple question

thats it

lol

just really old stuff

[slender depot]

How does the radio that's on the ground play whatever's happening on the Radio VoiceChatChannel?

I cannot find a piece of code that would play the audio received

[celest thorn]

Im pretty sure with PersonalRadioPlayback

because the radio item is cached

[tulip kiln]

Hello absolute gigachads

Does one know why voice chat decides to dip when there are a lot of players?

[upper vapor]

cuz

loud

total voice loudness cannot exceed 5
(a single person's loudness is usually 0-1)

[icy knoll]

if ur trying to disable grounded radios based on custom items. don’t bother as i got told there is no specific code for grounded radios

what i did was just disable the radios and put a speaker toy on them

[celest thorn]

yo question aside from SL but more unity

why tf HDPR looks like this
https://i.e-z.host/🐀/ht74hk0c.png

on the scene is this normal??

[wheat flower]

ive been wondering this question for ages

nobody gives a fucking straight answer

on how to fix it

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[hearty shard]

client issue afaik

and thus your fix includes: remaking the client

[wheat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/well-thats-the-worst-idea-ive-ever-heard-horrible-bad-advice-noel-gif-16138752

[slender depot]

Uhh you have to do something with the visual

[slender depot]

You have to enable the shadows

I mean make them be processed

I forgot how to do that

But it's in the graphics tab or something

[slate flume]

It's the best idea I've ever heard

[upper vapor]

you have lighting off in the editor

[celest thorn]

i fixed it ages ago

[plain gazelle]

Any way to make Pickups not look so jumpy when moving them? Feels like their physics run slower than everything else or sth.
I basically want to glue a Pickup to an object and move and rotate that object around with the Pickup staying glued to it, no falling or lagging behind etc

[spare zodiac]

good luck

[tulip kiln]

What is the object that will be following the pickup? All pickups have a NetworkIdentity, so if it's a toy, you can just parent it and it will follow it perfectly.

I'm doing that for a primitive object following a pickup

I'm stupid it's the other way around

Does the pickup need to be visible?

If not, you could use an interactable toy and have it give you the item on SearchCompleted

[plain gazelle]

Other way around
I have a PrimitiveObject that i move via Animator and i want the Pickup to follow that objects position perfectly

Pickup needs to be physically visible yes. I dont care about the picking up part, i can deny that via events or such if i need to. Noone needs to be able to pick it up

[slate flume]

@tulip kiln @plain gazelle it's not possible currently: #1416148591205941378 message

At least not unless you do some janky shit with waypoints

[plain gazelle]

:(

[restive turret]

Ye the pickup not reading the new physics stuff, alternative is waypoints

[grand flower]

if only there was a way to get rid of them

[celest thorn]

Honestly guys i got into developing my own game, its looking good, the thing is BRO i suck at fucking coding games, like im 10x times better modding

and i enjoy it more

• i develop in a modular way that i don't think its the correct approach for unity

lol

but still i made a triangle

in 2 seconds

[snow pulsar]

get it onto the official supported resources for admin toys

[celest thorn]

[celest thorn]

there's already a petition to add it

[snow pulsar]

We SHOULD

[celest thorn]

because SOMEONE believes that triangles can be made with cubes

and have the same impact

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/314

[snow pulsar]

Triangles cannot be made the same way with cubes... unless you kill half of a square, NW has it but modding doesn't

[celest thorn]

Plane triangles are different from traingles they are quads but triangle why i asked for this? because they are the basic of how Graphics can be made

and from there you can build a 3D triangle etc....

[snow pulsar]

so many shapes could take form...

[celest thorn]

just upvote it so nw knows what a triangle is

[snow pulsar]

SL feels kinda of blocky sometimes with map editing, or the corners are painfully done

[celest thorn]

(Obv this is not done for attack or anything, just im taking the situation with Irony)

[snow pulsar]

Better issue than trying to add extra hitboxes to things for no reason

[grand flower]

it's just the way rooms are done, they mostly abide to a specific shape/size so map gen is easier

makes things a little blocky

[celest thorn]

obv

[upper vapor]

Try DOTS ig

[celest thorn]

wanna see what i developed?

i was gonna start making the gun system

[upper vapor]

Here's your triangle

[celest thorn]

but then figure it out its a stupid idea continuing the project

[celest thorn]

Triangle made out of triangles

lol

[grand flower]

I need to continue mine but I'm starting a second job soon

and have vacations in 3 days

[upper vapor]

What are you on about though
Why is a triangle different from a "plane triangle"
Both are 2D

[snow pulsar]

Map editing doesn't have triangles... they only exist in quads

[celest thorn]

its just one face

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/lehb65n7.mp4

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

btw this is what i developed

the thing post processing is one by default fucking hell

[upper vapor]

Why would a regular triangle have more than 1 face

[celest thorn]

i hate it

[grand flower]

now add waypoints to your game

[celest thorn]

nah it works with a quake similar system

so

[slender lynx]

why r we still arguing abt triangles

[celest thorn]

We love triangles

[grand flower]

SL could just give client mods

[slender lynx]

its the most upvoted suggestion

[grand flower]

[slender lynx]

if ts dont get added then we know how to play it

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/5r2u3msy.png

btw this is smashing the sl standards of upvote

[snow pulsar]

I'm the 12th one

[celest thorn]

crazy

ngl im tempted to do at everyone on the tourney server and asking all tryharders to upvote it

[grand flower]

just make the 100th SL clone currently being developed

[celest thorn]

FR

but SL clones are boring asf

[grand flower]

That's why I'm steering mine away from SL

You'll be able to fully remake SL inside it through modding if you want and I honestly probably will make a similar-ish mode, but I'll also give free reign to the players to do w/e they want with it

[snow pulsar]

There's too many SL clones... SL is decent compared to half the other crazy shit

[slender lynx]

no point

[celest thorn]

Like with this my idea is making a doom type of game where some enemies can be attacked only when the player is inside the subspace or puzzles to be completed in that dimension

[grand flower]

that's the joke

[restive turret]

I use it to experiment without fucking over assets on the main one

[grand flower]

You work at NW you don't count

[restive turret]

When i experimented i didn't worked at nw

I already have some ideas and PoC that can be integrated but have to be approved

[celest thorn]

i made it in 30s but appreciate how funny it is

just hope it ends with the triangle loosing so it gets implemented

[restive turret]

It has to be approved

[celest thorn]

We won???

[restive turret]

All ideas has to be approved

Even internal oney

[celest thorn]

fuck

still an idea

[restive turret]

Ye ik

[celest thorn]

bro just fucking 12 people already upvoted it most that labapi ever got

[restive turret]

Most of them aint big, it just small easy things and improvement

[celest thorn]

🙏

the triangles

[grand flower]

hop on to my project, I plan to allow mods to add custom models & such

[celest thorn]

bro you never gave me anything lol

and if its in unreal im sorry but idk how to mod in unreal

[restive turret]

He gave you wisdom

[grand flower]

I'm writing a modding API in Luau

You wouldn't need to use Unreal to mod anything

[celest thorn]

Oh i forgot lol

[grand flower]

it's meant to be friendly

[celest thorn]

crazy...

[restive turret]

Like u

[celest thorn]

modding friendly developer???

[celest thorn]

awww thanks :3

[restive turret]

I meant as crazy but

[celest thorn]

btw when searching plane triangle i found this

[celest thorn]

still a compliment

[grand flower]

yeah I have thousands of hours in gmod and I'd hate to make a game based on a gmod gamemode without being fully modder friendly

[restive turret]

Cinema

[grand flower]

(burn not accidental)

(come on NW)

[celest thorn]

honestly im not amazed

[restive turret]

Sad that I have too many projects and cant stay on one game engine

[celest thorn]

ngl

i wanted to make my own engine

in

C

[grand flower]

it's fun

[celest thorn]

to just understand better the language

[restive turret]

Haha

[grand flower]

not planning to personally but maybe one day

tbh the game i'm making was a prototype that got me my first job

[celest thorn]

i could develop it in ARM Assembly

[grand flower]

And I only started that prototype because I was pissed at how SL was handled 5 years ago

[celest thorn]

PLEASE tell me something

hitregs

are they bad or good

[grand flower]

SL's? or do you mean in my project?

[restive turret]

Others made it in C# but either end up calling C++ still (fucking why??? godot) or the editor sucks and doesn't support loading data assets easily (stride)

[celest thorn]

your project the current one of SL are dogshit

[grand flower]

Haven't reached that part yet but they'll be fine

I've done it on a handful of released multiplayer games I've worked for with no issues

[celest thorn]

SCP:SL 2

[grand flower]

I'm targeting 64 players stable

[celest thorn]

thats crazy

[restive turret]

255 stable players

[celest thorn]

i've managed for lars to get 200 players

on a server

but he never did the live stream

[restive turret]

Lel

[slate flume]

🗣️

Based

[grand flower]

100 players is "planned" whenever the game's out and i've got time to tinker and reach that number

That would target 30FPS on the server but it would still run smoothly enough

[celest thorn]

ngl better culling

[grand flower]

clientside? yeah wouldn't have issues

server doesn't do culling

[celest thorn]

obv???

[restive turret]

Wdym obv

[celest thorn]

like SL doesn't do culling for some objects all the once with NetworkIdentities

[restive turret]

Server could cheat

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[restive turret]

[grand flower]

Also going with 100% Steam

[restive turret]

Finally

[grand flower]

that way I don't have to handle some other platform

no central servers, any backend the game uses is optional and would run fine without

[restive turret]

Please dont add discord shit ass rpc

[grand flower]

why not?

[celest thorn]

I LOVE RPC

[restive turret]

Idk

[grand flower]

actually curious

[restive turret]

I hate it

[celest thorn]

I love it

so people can see im playing a game and still didn't die

[restive turret]

Especially when some other mod add it and its "required"

[celest thorn]

ok thats bad

fucking discord i type trolling and thats the first thing

[restive turret]

I dont share what games I play or what thing im on

I did before but like not anymore

[celest thorn]

fun fact because of discord RPC, someone joined during the tournament testing

[grand flower]

I mean what if you could just disable it

is it so bad

[celest thorn]

and then someone else joined through steam

i DIDN'T know sl allowed that

[pulsar locust]

Hope you have a better dedicated server than most unreal engine multiplayer games I've seen

Dedicated server
Windows executable, which means wine is required

[grand flower]

That's just devs being stupid af and not releasing a Linux build of the server

[restive turret]

If can be disabled, idc, but if its necessary well fuck no

[grand flower]

which is like, you just need to install the linux cross compile toolchain on the UE website and you can build a Linux server???

no other work required

[restive turret]

Same as on Unity

[grand flower]

Yeah won't be necessary that'd be dumb

[pulsar locust]

I've seen some pretty poor dedicated servers in general
The Stationeers dedicated server has broken stdin on Linux meaning you can't type console commands and you have to rely on serverrun via shared key

[restive turret]

I seen same but only linux

[grand flower]

UE doesn't let you do stdin by default

It doesn't handle it

[upper vapor]

Did you know that just a simple triangle won't let you build an arbitrary mesh so easily
Since all you can do is scale, position and rotate
I'm sure you can figure out how to make optimized custom-shaped triangles, just letting you know

[restive turret]

I was like, thanks bro but im not on fucking linux let me host on my own pc too

[celest thorn]

don't worry what im gonna do with a triangle

i can build the world with it

i love triangles

[pulsar locust]

docker desktop or wsl

[restive turret]

No and no

I dont like docker and my pc cant handle wsl

[pulsar locust]

it's easier to run Linux headless servers on windows environments than windows headless servers on Linux environments

Wine is extra bloat that is not required

[pulsar locust]

wsl is one of the lightest hypervisors how the fuck is your pc so ass it can't handle it

[restive turret]

I broke virtualization in 2022

[upper vapor]

Show it then

[restive turret]

Can't run any vm

[pulsar locust]

L

[restive turret]

And wsl just dont work

Too lazy to reinstall

[pulsar locust]

yes because wsl is a hypervisor

Bruh

[upper vapor]

Make a world from one triangle mesh

[celest thorn]

i have a triangle in SL?

no

[upper vapor]

You have unity

[restive turret]

Make a pyramid

That's a new world

[celest thorn]

pyramid head

[pulsar locust]

Even then the stdin issue the Linux server encountered with Stationeers is probably so trivial to fix I could probably do it with a bepinex plugin

[celest thorn]

WAIT

YOU CAN MAKE THAT if they get added

[restive turret]

Bepinex in unreal?

[celest thorn]

new cosmetic

[celest thorn]

What????

[pulsar locust]

stationers is a unity game, I was replying to the stdin topic

[grand flower]

ah

[restive turret]

Ohhh

[pulsar locust]

And that was just the most recent message

[grand flower]

I mean I'll probs take a look at what it'd take to add stdin

[pulsar locust]

Bit confusing but that's conversations in an active channel lol

[grand flower]

but otherwise I'll add an easy way to communicate with servers

[restive turret]

A custom console window

[celest thorn]

do it like minecraft with bridges

and channels

[restive turret]

But Minecraft doesnt have bridges

[celest thorn]

minecraft has a sort of convention for bridges

[celest thorn]

yes it does

[restive turret]

Whats the block id?

[celest thorn]

how do you think bungeecord can communicate with a spigot server

[restive turret]

minecraft:stone_bridge

[celest thorn]

or a vanilla with bungeecord

[restive turret]

I only run modded mc or vanilla

I dont know those horrific modification

[celest thorn]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/#message

[pulsar locust]

That's called pluginmsg and it uses a socket connection that doesn't take a player slot

[grand flower]

I'll probs add RCON or a websocket service you can enable

[restive turret]

Ah uds sockets?

[grand flower]

idk

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar locust]

vanilla doesn't have the functionality for proxying to work unless you patch the jar

[celest thorn]

There's another one for Forge but i kinda forgot how it was named

[pulsar locust]

Minecraft java uses TCP

[celest thorn]

I remember it did on older version

[restive turret]

Lel

[celest thorn]

Remember for Java its kinda needed

UDP is a bit too unreliable and minecraft wants to be reliable

for how bad coded it is

[pulsar locust]

There's NeoVelocity for NeoForge

[grand flower]

they can just write a reliability layer on top of UDP

[pulsar locust]

bedrock's networking is decent, it's just the issue that everything else isn't reliable

[grand flower]

doesn't matter that it's Java

[pulsar locust]

also it's not hard to write a packet syncing layer on top of udp

[restive turret]

As seen others did this

[celest thorn]

you know that 90% of dupe exploit works because of how bad coded minecraft UIs Are

[grand flower]

I mean Mirror does

[celest thorn]

so

[restive turret]

Photon does it too

[celest thorn]

Bedrock trustest the client TOOO much

[restive turret]

I think steam / epic do it too

[grand flower]

Unreal does it too and probs every networking lib worth its weight

[celest thorn]

i love steam

i love gaben <3

[pulsar locust]

enet is a common one
http://enet.bespin.org/

[grand flower]

Oh yeah my game will use SDR so you don't need to buy ddos protection

[restive turret]

Well a normal udp socket doesnt really

[grand flower]

Free ddos protection is based

[celest thorn]

wtf is SDR

[restive turret]

Sdr

[pulsar locust]

Steam networking sockets is udp yea

[restive turret]

Socket Dela, System

[celest thorn]

RADIO???

[grand flower]

steam datagram relay

[celest thorn]

bro your game can run on an SL radio

[grand flower]

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/steamdatagramrelay

[celest thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software-defined_radio

[pulsar locust]

the disadvantage with steam networking is that it requires the server to use the steam dedicated server functionality of the sdk

And depending on the quality of the bindings it could be absolutely crud

[grand flower]

you can always make your own

[restive turret]

Or you can just emulate it

[celest thorn]

and so?

[grand flower]

i'm planning to make my own plugin for it because the existing ones suck or annoy me too much

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest thorn]

like we LOVE Gaben

[pulsar locust]

I'm just being sour about shitty bindings
I think what valve offers for gamedevs is awesome

Given I have a steam appid and I am working with a few friends with the intention to publish a game on steam

[restive turret]

There is always shitty bindigs

[grand flower]

I just like that it'd allow dedis to be protected from ddos & allow players to easily host listen servers to play with each other without renting a server

or having to open ports

[pulsar locust]

godotsteam:

[restive turret]

Godot already suck on C# side

[pulsar locust]

Also the person we have doing audio specifically wants a solution like fmod or wwise
We're using some fmod bindings and the extensibility of the emitters is piss poor, I'm gonna most likely do a pr to implement signals for programmer callbacks

For dialogue stuff

[pulsar locust]

C# in Godot 4 is still very much in beta but at least it uses a newer version of .NET than Unity

Unity is still stuck on mono/framework

Godot 4 just legitimately uses .NET 9

[upper vapor]

S&box:

https://tenor.com/view/hola-hi-wave-ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-wave-gif-5662778

[restive turret]

Y'know how many game engines I tried that made with newer c#?

[pulsar locust]

Godot 3 uses mono and it's C# bindings are stable

right now most effort with C# is going towards bringing back web support for C# in Godot 4

[restive turret]

Ah yes let me CALL THE ENGINE when you make a godot array

[grand flower]

laughs in enjoying C++

although I do miss C#

[restive turret]

I dont enjoy c++ and whenever I have to work on it it just extremely bad

[pulsar locust]

I'm not gonna install 60 GB of game engine for 2GB of game thank you very much

[restive turret]

Wanna support ipv6 and ipv4? Fuck you!

[grand flower]

you do you

I have 2Tb of different Unreal installations for work & my own project

[pulsar locust]

Also a fun fact about gdextensions on android

debug builds are kinda fucked

And it was only semi recently fixed

Also when the fuck are the Godot docs gonna get documentation for how to use stencils

[restive turret]

Never

[grand flower]

installed friday and already half filled

[restive turret]

I still don't like godot pushing C# away because their own scripting language doesn't support it