To finally remove the fucking echo
#plugins-dev-chat
upper vapor
That's not a concern of mixer group
upper vapor
That would be ideal
slender lynx
if someone does it then its fine
its smth we've been asking for since speakers came out
nobody's done it
upper vapor
I voted for you
When 😭
And you said you'd quit sl if I got into nw
celest thorn
its smth we've been asking for since speakers came out
I think yea one update worked and then broke it
upper vapor
hence why it will not be added
☠️
celest thorn
When 😭
And you said you'd quit sl if I got into nw
Yes
slender lynx
I think yea one update worked and then broke it
you right
celest thorn
you right
I remember perfectly and asked
And someone said “it wasn’t intended”
Like cool features aren’t intended leave bugs
This game would be cooler
obsidian wharf
???
slender lynx
we ask for this but we all know damn well next update is gonna be skibidi toilet rework
celest thorn
we ask for this but we all know damn well next update is gonna be skibidi toilet...
Or added
- New event OnPlayerGettingBlastedOffFromTheServer
And thats it
slender lynx
Or added
1. New event OnPlayerGettingBlastedOffFromTheServer
new event on one very specific thing nobody uses
OnPlayerStandingInWC00
celest thorn
new event on one very specific thing nobody uses
Or just cedmod uses 
slender lynx
you right
celest thorn
I love shitting on nw
celest thorn
Maro you are the first 
when it comes in updates
slender lynx
if they listened to changes then it would be ok
icy knoll
idk why people shit on us, like we try to make changes yall like 😭
celest thorn
idk why people shit on us, like we try to make changes yall like 😭
So just start working
icy knoll
im on LOA!
celest thorn
YOU JOINED YESTERDAY BRO?
slender lynx
idk why people shit on us, like we try to make changes yall like 😭
tbf we ask for like gun fixes and instead we get ez rework
celest thorn
Already in loa???
icy knoll
ive been in northwood for over a year
upper vapor
I should totally include SecretLabNAudio with LabApi
celest thorn
Bro not even fucking italian government employees work this low
icy knoll
passed api maintainer trial yesterday tho
and smth happened yesterday that has put me in LOA
celest thorn
I swear they work atleast a minute more
celest thorn
and smth happened yesterday that has put me in LOA
I swear this is a joke
Massive and funny
icy knoll
it's not 😭
celest thorn
Yesss
upper vapor
I swear this is a joke
upper vapor
Zero you'd shit yourself if you knew the reason
celest thorn
Zero you'd shit yourself if you knew the reason
Crazy
icy knoll
Zero you'd shit yourself if you knew the reason
the reason doesn't have laxatives in it yk smh
celest thorn
the reason doesn't have laxatives in it yk smh
Who tf puts laxatives in their food
celest thorn
Bro
upper vapor
Like this
icy knoll
Who tf puts laxatives in their food
people who are constipated
slender lynx
icy knoll
laxatives are a medicine for that specific reason lol
celest thorn
people who are constipated
I mean makes sense but you don’t drop a bottle into them
I think you can work lol
With even shitting a little bit more
Lol
slender lynx
toilet coding
icy knoll
what
slender lynx
oh btw zero
celest thorn
oh btw zero
Hm
slender lynx
allowing cheaters to play on rendition apparently
cuz everyone on that server is cheater
celest thorn
allowing cheaters to play on rendition apparently
Bro i ban them whenever they report them
I cannot stay 24/7 into that fucking server
slender lynx
theres not many cheaters
celest thorn
theres not many cheaters
Like 4/5 i banned already
slender lynx
the "evidence" is just some random guy getting fucked by tryhards and me
celest thorn
But if they don’t report them its not our fault
slender lynx
it happened while i was playing yesterday
upper vapor
Like 4/5 i banned already
You banned 0.8 people? 
celest thorn
You banned 0.8 people? <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
Yes
Average Clan member
slender lynx
13-0
celest thorn
You need to make a tutorial on how to win against the clan
Maybe they stop cheating
slender lynx
literally the thinker
celest thorn
Bro is still mad
celest thorn
i get they're mad but they're legit dming people saying im cheating bro
Lol
You got 2 types of stalkers
- Tryharders
- Cheaters saying you cheat
celest thorn
slender lynx
another one for the wall
celest thorn
You collect them
slender lynx
currently been banned for cheating at least 30 times
gotta frame them at some point
upper vapor
ashen hound
uhh theres mostly one size if you mean grid size
icy knoll
Is there a way to get the size of the room?
you can get room bounds
upper vapor
room.Bounds?
fathom charm
Well, I'm making a plugin where there will be a zone in the room that you enter and certain effects are applied.
upper vapor
You can also use a trigger collider with OnTriggerEnter
fathom charm
var roomBounds = new Bounds(zone.Room.Transform.position, room.Bounds)? right?
upper vapor
var roomBounds = new Bounds(zone.Room.Transform.position, room.Bounds)? right?
Isn't room.Bounds already a Bounds
fathom charm
Isn't room.Bounds already a Bounds
I'm either blind or I don't understand, but I don't have that.
fathom charm
yep
upper vapor
I'm either blind or I don't understand, but I don't have that.
Right
There really is no bounds in Room
@icy knoll can you check what the base game has for this
If there's anything at all
celest thorn
<@618689346828238848> can you check what the base game has for this
She is in loa
Cannot check that
fathom charm
😔
upper vapor
np
upper vapor
https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif...
i love this gif
upper vapor
@celest thorn take notes
upper vapor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846865937935630349/1403905400369319999/at...
"we are the chaos in surgency"
cyan crown
upper vapor
average vs code user
who's using vs code
upper vapor
slow grotto
I write my plugins in DrJava
upper vapor
in whava?
icy knoll
room.Base.WorldspaceBounds
time to add the field to room then ig 😭
slow grotto
Oh you're missing out on what was my entire uni coding journey
upper vapor
time to add the field to room then ig 😭
*property
soft turtle
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magic gate
There’s shadcn-vue
icy knoll
There’s shadcn-vue
shadcn-svelte too
magic gate
shadcn-svelte too
icy knoll
https://tenor.com/view/send-this-peasant-to-the-dungeons-cat-shoo-cat-biscuts-gi...
better than vue :3
royal mica
hides as an angular dev
restive turret
yes
icy knoll
*hides as an angular dev*
yikes
royal mica
I like it /shrug
teal junco
Everybodys NW staff now
icy knoll
well, you guys have got new api maintainers to bully with pings when you get super duper confused
:3
cyan crown
Everybodys NW staff now
restive turret
well, you guys have got new api maintainers to bully with pings when you get sup...
D:
sinful bronze
!rep
regal lakeBOT
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sinful bronze
!rep @upper vapor
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spare zodiac
13.5 months to get rid of waypoints
#yes
celest thorn
well, you guys have got new api maintainers to bully with pings when you get sup...
Hey how do i do 1+1 in c#
Or how can i do?
2x^2+3x-1=0
icy knoll
smh
spare zodiac
x - f(x)/f'(x)
does this do gravity?
slate flume
does this do gravity?
Wdym
spare zodiac
I'm not explaining joke
warped prairie
well, you guys have got new api maintainers to bully with pings when you get sup...
dont worry i can now bother slej even more than i did before hand with my stupid bullshit
right @restive turret :)
icy knoll
well, i probably am the least knowledgeable out of all the api maintainers, but im just happy to be here :3
warped prairie
i considered applying, but im straight up stupid like 80% of the time
truly the duality of Me to be goated for like an hour then forget the most basic thing ever and go braindead
icy knoll
lol
warped prairie
maybe if things open back up for API maintain ill sign up, im active in the community enough anyways lel
hearty shard
whats up uncs
slate flume
i considered applying, but im straight up stupid like 80% of the time
I considered applying but realized I hate bureaucracy
icy knoll
well, if you guys do apply in future then good luck
warped prairie
lel. thats fair enough, I am a huge fan of bureaucracy when it is flexible and functions without massivly ciritcal issues that hinder others. which does not seem the case for the Labapi team
slate flume
slate flume
lel. thats fair enough, I am a huge fan of bureaucracy when it is flexible and f...
The massively critical issue is that my shit isn't getting fixed
warped prairie
🗣️
slate flume
I mean I've been waiting on a one-line fix for literally months
When is an API maintainer doing it
Never?
Why?
My guess is they need like fucking layers of approval bullshit that they don't wanna do for such a small change but idk
slate flume
My guess is they need like fucking layers of approval bullshit that they don't w...
Which is the essence of why I hate bureaucracy
At times
grand flower
rip
slate flume
I mean it's not even a base game issue
It's in a LabAPI wrapper
The only people it effects are devs with LabAPI
The only people who can fix it are the LabAPI team
Tempted to apply, fix a bunch of shit I've been waiting for, then resign
warped prairie
The only people who can fix it are the LabAPI team
well im sure the new maintainers would love to take a stab at all your issues if you make them, so at the worst you can get resolution/ shove the blame to them for not fixing it 
speaking of issues, im still fucking clueless on how to use github issues
slate flume
well im sure the new maintainers would love to take a stab at all your issues if...
I love having new people to blame for all my problems
slate flume
speaking of issues, im still fucking clueless on how to use github issues
Go on GitHub, go to issues, and open one
They have templates for you and everything
warped prairie
is it like a stack overflow situation where posting a slightly stupid question or thing will get you banished?
slate flume
No
Just make sure to look before you post an issue to see if anyone else has posted about it
It's not the end of the world but it makes the team's job easier if you look first because otherwise they'll close your ticket as being a duplicate
I've done it a couple times by accident no lie
Related I had like 10 open tickets that got moved to their internal tracker
Which is hype
warped prairie
ok so they wont like murder your family members for messing up. thats chill
icy knoll
well im sure the new maintainers would love to take a stab at all your issues if...
we are taking a stab at some stuff :3
slate flume
Got a dozen emails at like 2am
From GitHub
Telling me my tickets were closed and moved
Well actually telling me Jesus told me my tickets were closed and moved
Which is a crazy statement if you don't know the context around who Jesus is on the LabAPI team
slate flume
So funny that his username is Jesus
"yeah Jesus told me he'd answer my GitHub requests"
It would be funnier if he had a larger presence on the Discord
David used to be team lead iirc and it was so funny seeing people be like @david can you fix all my problems please 🙏🏼
slate flume
What was david
icy knoll
maintainer
icy knoll
they didn't
slate flume
Fired? 0_0
icy knoll
they became assistant director
slate flume
V interesting
Does he get paid yet?
Does anyone here?
This probably shows you how little I know about the LabAPI team lmao
All I know is what I need
hearty shard
icy knoll
bounties
grand flower
hope it's more than $5 lmao
hearty shard
hope it's more than $5 lmao
i mean itd prob depend on what it is
slate flume
^
icy knoll
$5 is reasonable for a 1 liner lol
hearty shard
i doubt theyll give you 50 bucks per line change
grand flower
$5 is reasonable for a 1 liner lol
if it took you a minute to figure out the issue sure
if the fix is one line but it took you a few hours of finding it in the codebase because of the complexity, nah
slate flume
@grand flower
hearty shard
nw just doesnt earn enough to be giving 20 bucks a line
slate flume
Do you guys think devs for servers are paid more than devs for NW
grand flower
I don't get paid
hearty shard
NW has $5k rn
slate flume
I'm gonna be getting paid
hearty shard
a month
grand flower
Mostly because im unaffordable to server hosts, and because I only help when I like the server
hearty shard
- they have to pay for servers and managers consistently
slate flume
I'm pretty sure some community servers make more than that
slate flume
Yeah commissions can't be that large with a payroll like that
hearty shard
im not a nw financial expert ngl
slate flume
I thought NW would be making more money tbh
hearty shard
well
spring swan
they don’t 
slate flume
Well yeah true
hearty shard
but otherwise not really
spring swan
Bounty system moment
hearty shard
their money comes from betas
spring swan
their money comes from betas
- merch
hearty shard
oh yea merch exists
grand flower
One of the reasons I don't know why NW is so big
grand flower
They don't have the money for it and realistically a game like SL doesn't need a giant team
spring swan
One of the reasons I don't know why NW is so big
A lot of volunteers who want to help with the game
slate flume
I would've expected way more money flowing in with such a large team
grand flower
That's nice and all but it still causes issues to coordinate such a large team, especially on a game as small as SL
relative to other bigger games with much smaller teams
spring swan
I would've expected *way* more money flowing in with such a large team
Big team doesn’t mean more money
hearty shard
relative to other bigger games with much smaller teams
i mean
slate flume
Big team doesn’t mean more money <:smug:1347039372528058478>
It should because big teams take money to coordinate
hearty shard
afaik phasmo is a low amount of devs
slate flume
Generally
hearty shard
but they earn enough to be paying yearly salaries
grand flower
Phasmo is also a relatively simple game
hearty shard
yeah
slate flume
afaik phasmo is a low amount of devs
Most indie games have a low amount of devs
hearty shard
ya
grand flower
not really
hearty shard
but they earn from selling game, not from donations like nw
grand flower
there's a few teams I've worked for that expanded too much and well, never ends well
grand flower
but they earn from selling game, not from donations like nw
another reason why i'd keep the team as small as possible
slate flume
Wasn't hollow knight made by like 4 people
I think it's possible the SL team is bloated larger than it should be
grand flower
it is
slate flume
Spreading thin is very real
grand flower
For a game like SL the team's way too big
slate flume
20 people paid $1/hour are generally not gonna perform as well as 1 person paid $20/hour you feel me
grand flower
Can't speak much about the level of experience NW's devs have, but yeah
slate flume
I'm honestly shocked to learn how little money NW makes
grand flower
that'd still be a low budget for a game
teal junco
how many devs are there even
i do know theres like a few entire departments, i assume theyd have like 10-15 people at the most each, but from what i've heard that already causes bureaucratic issues and infighting because theres too many people
like marketing, game design, art, programming, etc each with their own directors and stuff
celest thorn
Big team doesn’t mean more money <:smug:1347039372528058478>
what are you doing here?
icy knoll
i do know theres like a few entire departments, i assume theyd have like 10-15 p...
i don't see any fighting or anything about stuff internally
so idk where ur getting this from
teal junco
i don't see any fighting or anything about stuff internally
well it would make sense, too many people working on the same thing might disagree about X thing and slow down its implementation.
but i will admit I dont remember where I learned this
warped prairie
fire hubert 🧠
teal junco
fire everyone
He should assign every department to perform "auto-decimation" every year
that might make the pill easier to swallow
grand flower
the fact there's departments with managers is iffy
for a game like SL
Makes sense with the volunteers and all but still a bit ehhhh
teal junco
the fact there's departments with managers is iffy
let me see if i can find the google slide with Northwood's specifications
warped prairie
"team autobalancing" type department structure lmao
grand flower
I've worked on bigger projects with smaller teams that didn't need this kind of presentation
:/
teal junco
why did it grow this much actually
i remember looking it up a while ago and being kind of surprised at how many people there were, i didnt really think about it though
celest thorn
wtf is the doakes thing
static meteor
wtf is the doakes thing
sectionbuild.WithAccessory(new ThumbnailBuilder("https://c.tenor.com/yElPsrGJ1fYAAAAd/tenor.gif"));
Also let me just say
Who THE FUCK is coming up with these balancing ideas
Why did we nerf 106?
Who's that for?
Who thought that was a solid idea?
Micro speed cap that can't even be changed by plugins?
What???
Are we deadass?
What the fuck guys
teal junco
what happened
slate flume
what happened
Just getting upset about old changelogs
I never really ranted about it
It was like 14.1.3
Iirc
static meteor
```cs
sectionbuild.WithAccessory(new ThumbnailBuilder("https://c.tenor.com/yElPs...
Needs a accessory to send the component so I choose doakes because logs
slate flume
what happened
I'm just still mad AF about it
Half the changes were alright or cool, and then the other half were abysmal dogshit
Idk who tf is in charge of balancing ts but that was aids
static meteor
https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-thanos-thanos-snap-dust-gif-160374...
I typed voud instead of void and Intellisense did that
grand flower
Micro speed cap that can't even be changed by plugins?
yeah that's annoying
the reasoning though is that it would require clientside changes too
while NW could in theory give us access it'd be sucky
i.e. if you changed the cap while the player was using the micro they'd rubberband
slate flume
the reasoning though is that it would require clientside changes too
Then don't fucking add it in the first place? Like c'mon dude
grand flower
Modding < base SL in NW's eyes
slate flume
I don't know a single person who appreciated that change
grand flower
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slate flume
Almost my entire server voted against having it
grand flower
I got done with SL modding because of that kind of stuff amongst other things
grand flower
it's a classic
slate flume
Where tf did it come from
teal junco
drawing
grand flower
no idea
slate flume
I'm still pressed about the changes even though it was like months ago
grand flower
yeah it's annoying
slate flume
Like can we not?
grand flower
the amount of rigidity NW has with modding pissed me off enough to give up
It's not a first class citizen
It should be
slate flume
I wish I could actually do anything about it
Not sure why it takes such a backseat
Half the game's community is modding
grand flower
you can, just make your own game
slate flume
I mean it's a good size
grand flower
and it's... fine right now i guess?
spark moth
Am i Supposed to be able to talk in here
teal junco
is maintaing a playerbase easy? I dont think so.
grand flower
no, go away, shoo shoo /s
teal junco
i dunno tho
grand flower
everyone's welcome here
restive turret
Am i Supposed to be able to talk in here
Its open for everyone so
Prev you had to get a role
grand flower
except traitors who join NW
slate flume
Its open for everyone so
Hey can you fix NW's shitty design choices for me
grand flower
is maintaing a playerbase easy? I dont think so.
If SL can maintain a playerbase with the lackluster updates, I don't think the bar's very high
Community servers are doing most of the work for NW at this point
Support community servers and you're on par
slate flume
Community servers are doing most of the work for NW at this point
🗣️ 🔥
True
Facts
We need more NW hate in the chat
grand flower
I'm more disappointed than hateful
restive turret
Hey can you fix NW's shitty design choices for me
I have also many ideas to change and make so 🔥
slate flume
It upsets me more than anything else
slate flume
I have also many ideas to change and make so 🔥
Hell yeah
grand flower
Spite's a good motivator for your own project 
slate flume
I'm waiting for us to be given the ability to remove the micro speed cap
Fucking bullshit
grand flower
you're gonna be waiting a long time
slate flume
Yeah I mean it takes actual years for things to happen around here
restive turret
Well def not gonna be done tmr 
grand flower
Main reason why I'm adding clientside modding to my project is so that you can do stuff like this
and I want the game itself to (mostly) be a mod
obviously the game's core won't be a mod but anything that can be a base mod will be
slate flume
Main reason why I'm adding clientside modding to my project is so that you can d...
Cyn what game are you making
restive turret
and I want the game itself to (mostly) be a mod
Thats what I did to my EIV project too
restive turret
Cyn what game are you making
[REDACTED]
grand flower
Cyn what game are you making
Not revealing too much about it (yet) but I can DM you if you want
slate flume
Not revealing too much about it (yet) but I can DM you if you want
Hell yeah
grand flower
Keeping the list of people pretty short right now
slate flume
Real
grand flower
accept my friend request
grand flower
fuck, guess im wanted by interpol now
restive turret
Real
static meteor
"UserBans": {},
"ModulesDirectory": "modules",
"UserWarns": {
"1013622925703778315": 2
}
You warned yourself 2 times
static meteor
:|
restive turret
Sadge
static meteor
I dont have a log for that idk where its coming from
restive turret
Magic
static meteor
I forgot about
_client.Log += LogAsync;
Only other experience i have with another api for bots is discord.py
restive turret
Only other experience i have with another api for bots is discord.py
Ye I used that too
icy knoll
i like discord.net
icy knoll
I forgot about
```cs
_client.Log += LogAsync;
```
bruh this is in the setup guide 😭
restive turret
i like discord.net
I think it's something with async
Because i never used async before and had to quick learn it for some shitty bot
icy knoll
I think it's something with async
i like async too, but ig im just used to web dev and the amount of async required there
restive turret
Well i mostly use static stuff and rarely used threaded stuff when it was necessary
icy knoll
well, discordlab is like 99% async, atleast the bot is
static meteor
bruh this is in the setup guide 😭
celest thorn
!bugreport
regal lakeBOT
You can report a bug using the instructions found here: https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1388685084302905464
restive turret
well, discordlab is like 99% async, atleast the bot is
Ye and originally just got confused about it
icy knoll
lol
soft depot
Nice car 🚘
keen brook
true cedar
okay
keen halo
Server.RunCommand("/el l all");
Why does this completely break elevator doors and make it possible for players to fall in the void
teal junco
Server.RunCommand in 2029 💔
slate flume
```cs
Server.RunCommand("/el l all");
```
Why does this completely break elevat...
Idk you're the plugin dev
warped prairie
lmao
keen halo
Idk you're the plugin dev
teal junco
```cs
Server.RunCommand("/el l all");
```
Why does this completely break elevat...
the command itself works?
keen halo
Well yeah
It just sends the elevators
but for some reason the doors dont get the memo
burnt hearth
upper vapor
Good job <a:firClap:901863082253512734>
thank you :3
rain isle
of course :D
upper vapor
average visual studio experience (any ide tbh)
upper vapor
There’s shadcn-vue
problem solved
upper vapor
*hides as an angular dev*
upper vapor
Server.RunCommand in 2029 💔
trueing
celest thorn
Skill issue
teal junco
strongest RunCommand-cel
vs
weakest View decompiled class CommandSystem.KillEverybodyCommand-chad
teal junco
but for some reason the doors dont get the memo
I think you can interact with elevator doors directly. Maybe iterate over every single one and send it or something, and then close the doors
teal junco
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/py...
This gif conveys zero emotion in this context
celest thorn
I think you can interact with elevator doors directly. Maybe iterate over every ...
There’s litteraly called ElevatorsDoors
Or something like that
teal junco
Yeah
celest thorn
This gif conveys zero emotion in this context
My disappointment
teal junco
fact is, youre gonna need to do something other than runcommand if the command is broken
plus if the game updates (and a command is ever removed or changed) there might be silent failures
celest thorn
fact is, youre gonna need to do something other than runcommand if the command i...
Idk i would ever recommend to run commands instead of doing stuff with code
At that point use ScriptedEvents
teal junco
Idk i would ever recommend to run commands instead of doing stuff with code
Yeah. commands are just for easy access to code from ingame, not the other way around
keen halo
I think you can interact with elevator doors directly. Maybe iterate over every ...
I found a work around
I just thought it was crazy the command was broke like that.
teal junco
I found a work around
didja find a better command to Server.RunCommand?
keen halo
uhhh no
celest thorn
`foreach (var elevator in Map.Elevators)`
Ahhhhhh varrrr
Noooooo
Specify the typeee
slate flume
Specify the typeee
Lame
celest thorn
It takes you 2 seconds
celest thorn
So sad
keen halo
slate flume
Developers trying not to hate on var challenge (impossible):
https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350
keen halo
It works the exact same
celest thorn
Developers trying not to hate on `var` challenge (impossible):
https://tenor.com...
Like whyyy??? Its unreadable
slate flume
Like whyyy??? Its unreadable
Bruh
keen halo
IS IT THO
slate flume
`foreach (var elevator in Map.Elevators)`
If you can't read this then you're a lost cause
slate flume
Hmmmm I wonder what the type is 🤔
Maybe it's fucking Elevator?
Are we deadass?
celest thorn
Stylecop would scream at you rn
keen halo
Hmmmm I wonder what the type is 🤔
Maybe it's fucking `Elevator`?
Are we deadass...
For fucking real
celest thorn
Like im doing
slate flume
Stylecop would scream at you rn
Yeah cause stylecop is god and omniscient and always knows best
celest thorn
Yeah cause stylecop is god and omniscient and always knows best
True
keen halo
When I'm in a complaining competition and my opponent is a variable purist
celest thorn
When I'm in a complaining competition and my opponent is a variable purist
Bruh
I need to
slate flume
Im purposely looking for more of my code that might piss you off hold on
Hell yes
I love this girl already
celest thorn
Im purposely looking for more of my code that might piss you off hold on
Thats meanie behavior
keen halo
public override void Disable()
{
RedisManager.Close();
HarmonyInstance.UnpatchAll("com.garden.patches");
HarmonyInstance = null;
}
I don't disable any events.
:)
keen halo
Lmao
celest thorn
Redis & argument on unpatchall
keen halo
celest thorn
Its just used to communicate to my discord bot
Websocket?
slate flume
We might NOT to talk
celest thorn
Depends on what you are doing
slate flume
```cs
public override void Disable()
{
RedisManager....
What does Disable even do
celest thorn
And btw the argument on unpatchall its just useless asf
celest thorn
What does Disable even do
Disables
keen halo
What does Disable even do
Its when ya disable the plugin
keen halo
Just anytime I guess
slate flume
I don't think my plugin's disable code has run even a single time
celest thorn
I don’t think any of mine either
keen halo
Mine either thats why i dont disable my events becuase who cares
celest thorn
But still i make sure they are fine in case it does
celest thorn
Im quite proud of my code
Im proud of my 1.2k lines in one class that manages everything regarding minigames
keen halo
celest thorn
Yeah but lets hear abour your social life and showering habits
Oh don’t worry i shower daily girl
And my social life is alr
celest thorn
I like taking showers
celest thorn
Where ya from?
Italy :3
keen halo
Oh damn you're actually winning nevermind then
I'm a disgusting American. But I'm moving to Australia next month...
celest thorn
Oh damn you're actually winning nevermind then
If you think italy is good its only for food and tourist trust
celest thorn
I'm a disgusting American. But I'm moving to Australia next month...
God be safe
The spiders ….
Ewww
celest thorn
Nah wtf
keen halo
Guns > Spiders....
celest thorn
Are you like those people that would pet spiders
keen halo
How tf are spiders more scary then every single crazy person owning a gun
Ill take the spider thanks
celest thorn
How tf are spiders more scary then every single crazy person owning a gun
I swear im more scared than that
With someone you can reason
keen halo
I'm moving to Sydney, there's no crazy spiders in the city
celest thorn
With the spider that thing is going to jump me
Nuh uh
Like a spider jumping on me i think its like my souls leaves my body in 1 second
celest thorn
I'm trans in America
Im tgirl in Italy in the south, and if you wonder people here don’t evolve instead go backwards and there’s like alot of hate
keen halo
Same here gf I promise
keen halo
Same
celest thorn
Massive following of saints its like common asf we close down schools for a week just for a saint lol
keen halo
And they worship a wanna be dictator
celest thorn
And they worship a wanna be dictator
Ok nah thats messed up
hearty shard
i love this
celest thorn
In terms of political i think something you cannot criticize is how someone gets elected
slate flume
No ugly mess
1.2k lines in one class and it's not an ugly mess?
keen halo
We have days off school becuase a nazi podcaster got shot
slate flume
Keep dreaming
keen halo
lmfao
celest thorn
1.2k lines in one class and it's not an ugly mess?
No
celest thorn
We have days off school becuase a nazi podcaster got shot
I mean don’t you find bad that he got shot?
slate flume
I'm a disgusting American. But I'm moving to Australia next month...
Nothing wrong with america
keen halo
Nothing wrong with america
You are VERY wrong
slate flume
Oh damn you're actually winning nevermind then
You think being Italian is winning? Lmao
celest thorn
I think it doesn’t matter who he was or what he did but just that a life was taken is really still sad
celest thorn
You think being Italian is winning? Lmao
Ahahhahahahahah
keen halo
I think it doesn’t matter who he was or what he did but just that a life was tak...
There was a school shooting the same way but the kids life dont matter.
Im not going to argue politics but America is on a path that I do not want to be apart of and I've watched it become worse and worse.
I can't wait to live in Australia!
celest thorn
There was a school shooting the same way but the kids life dont matter.
I honestly found out more about him after but geniunly i think aside from what he said that sometimes could be considered controversial (because politics is controversial), still i see a father of a family getting shot and silenced for his ideology which maybe wrong or not
mild ice
Can we move away from political discussion please 
celest thorn
Can we move away from political discussion please <:sadhamster:13707983061033986...
True
keen halo
celest thorn
I just didn’t wanna be controversial my point is a life was taken doesn’t matter who its still sad
slate flume
some people really don't feel safe in the US
The whole problem is living in a sphere of media isolationism
When you live in a certain country all you're gonna hear about is how shitty your country is because the good stuff doesn't get clicks
teal junco
Can we move away from political discussion please <:sadhamster:13707983061033986...
i always remember that time i got warned for politics by a guy who always talkrd about politics lol
I will move away from political discussion
slate flume
People will sit here and be like "America is a hellhole and every other country is better" when really America is not a bad place to live
And I reject that line of thinking
keen halo
Is this a catapillar?
celest thorn
The whole problem is living in a sphere of media isolationism
When you live in a...
Bro italy is ass we pay thousands of taxes, we are in a spiraling debt and less people are born and the government on their website informed me im not getting any benefits if i go old
keen halo
Fucking awesome
teal junco
People will sit here and be like "America is a hellhole and every other country ...
Oh yeah America is objectively a good place to live. But it's also home to some pretty hateful people.
slate flume
Oh damn you're actually winning nevermind then
And yet some Americans will say shit like this @celest thorn because all they think is that America is the worst place to live in the world and any other first-world country is better
celest thorn
Can we move away from political discussion please <:sadhamster:13707983061033986...
Btw can we have a massive renaming to debate chat
slate flume
Oh yeah America is objectively a good place to live. But it's also home to some ...
True but so is every country
A lot of the happiest countries are also the most racist
celest thorn
And yet some Americans will say shit like this <@642642727237845041> because all...
God i swear i would trade to live in america
Here i get paid nothing
And cry in debts to just afford a house
teal junco
Oh yeah America is objectively a good place to live. But it's also home to some ...
^
The feeling that everyone hates you can be bolstered by media. But it's not always (purely just media fucking with people, it's [frequently] based in a kernel of truth). And trans people are being actively targeted by republicans. That's all I'll say in this chat
celest thorn
If you study there you have a bright future
slate flume
A lot of the happiest countries are also the most racist
You see a lot of hyper-nationalism and rejection of migrants in countries like Finland to the point that people moving there are socially ostracized and isolated
celest thorn
We have not changed the subject at all
Its economics bruh
keen halo
slate flume
^
The feeling that everyone hates you can be bolstered by media. But it's not al...
Every group of people looks for a different group of people to hate
That's been a constant throughout all time, and exists in every country
teal junco
if you are interested in talking about politics you can dm me or something
celest thorn
You see a lot of hyper-nationalism and rejection of migrants in countries like F...
I didn’t know that about finland until i found out about thte memes
mild ice
We have not changed the subject at all
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/kitten-meow-are-you-kidding-me-are-you-kitten-me-right-me...
Debate chat when?
mild ice
Where's the DEV talk guys
keen halo
That's what im saying
idle depot
Now this doesn't look like plugin talk
slate flume
Where's the DEV talk guys
There's nothing wrong with a friendly debate
It's constructive
No one's even cussed
mild ice
Debate chat when?
Never
celest thorn
No one's even cussed
Let me change that
teal junco
There's nothing wrong with a friendly debate
Well I think it's a blanket ban to avoid it escalating. Even if the people involves are mature enough to avoid it, mods can't "confirm" it, so they just ban it all.
celest thorn
(Im kidding)
keen halo
I made a command for ya guys free of charge.
slate flume
Well I think it's a blanket ban to avoid it escalating. Even if the people invol...
Imo I think ostracizing people for talking politics or other things just feeds into the culture we have of refusing to compromise with people on the other side of the aisle
slate flume
I made a command for ya guys free of charge.
You should just check if pl.IsAlive();
celest thorn
You should just check if pl.IsAlive();
Lol
mild ice
Imo I think ostracizing people for talking politics or other things just feeds i...
There's a time and a place for it, but that place just isn't here.
It's not what this server is for or about
teal junco
Imo I think ostracizing people for talking politics or other things just feeds i...
I can see why some people wanna ban political talk, there's a time and place. But yeah, I think it's important to be able to discuss it
keen halo
MAKE ME
slate flume
if (pl != null && pl.Role != RoleTypeId.Spectator && pl.Role != RoleTypeId.Overwatch)
No just do something like
if (pl?.IsAlive())
teal junco
And it isnt as if Northwood here is pretending politics doesnt exist or is unimportant (like some people...), they just think it's off topic.
celest thorn
And it isnt as if Northwood here is pretending politics doesnt exist or is unimp...
^
teal junco
I hope my discussion of politics as a concept isnt political lol
celest thorn
I have too much fun having debates like this
slate flume
And it isnt as if Northwood here is pretending politics doesnt exist or is unimp...
And yet there is no place on this server where it really is on topic
keen halo
Bro we are in sync
teal junco
dont ban pls
keen halo
CST Superior time zone
slate flume
I have too much fun having debates like this
Same
teal junco
Bro we are in sync
Where do you livw
keen halo
Tenneessee
keen halo
celest thorn
CST Superior time zone
Bro EU lived like this for a ton of time
slate flume
I like telling people that America actually isn't a bad place to live because I like to think I can save them from having to realize that themselves
teal junco
I have too much fun having debates like this
Same, it can help me develop my views
celest thorn
I like telling people that America actually isn't a bad place to live because I ...
Bro i swear there are places far worst
teal junco
because admittedly my political views aren't fully developed yet
celest thorn
Same, it can help me develop my views
We all are different nations
slate flume
There are better places to be
celest thorn
And just see in different views
slate flume
There are better places to be
But there are far, far worse places to be
Everywhere is struggling
And we're all in this together
celest thorn
Its just fun because everyone had different experiences
celest thorn
Jesus christ on a fucking bike
????
teal junco
Can we talk about something else
We aren't talking about political topics directly are we
celest thorn
Can we talk about something else
I hate Player::IsAlive
teal junco
At least I have tried to avoid it
celest thorn
Everyone should be alive including Scp079
keen halo
I hate Player::IsAlive
celest thorn
Let me do a patch that makes it always true
teal junco
I hate Player::IsAlive
What does it do. doesnt it just check if youre a spectator/filmmaker/none?
teal junco
or that
celest thorn
Scp079 is considered alive
Wtf
celest thorn
Did your experience say otherwise??
Yes?? I remember that it was false just for 079 or am i going crazy
slate flume
Yes?? I remember that it was false just for 079 or am i going crazy
You're crazy
celest thorn
You're crazy
Thanks :3
teal junco
You're crazy
She is crazy
keen halo
public static T RandomElement<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable)
{
var enumerable1 = enumerable as T[] ?? enumerable.ToArray();
var index = UnityEngine.Random.Range(0, enumerable1.Length);
return enumerable1.ElementAt(index);
}
She is making things up, she is trying to gaslight us
slate flume
```cs
public static T RandomElement<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable)
...
I have a better one
celest thorn
She is making things up, she is trying to gaslight us
I don’t think i would do that
slate flume
```cs
public static T RandomElement<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable)
...
public static T RandomItem<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable) => enumerable switch
{
IReadOnlyList<T> list => list[Random.Range(0, list.Count)],
IReadOnlyCollection<T> collection => collection.ElementAt(Random.Range(0, collection.Count)),
_ => RandomElement.RandomItem(enumerable.ToArray())
};
I love it
celest thorn
```c#
public static T RandomItem<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable) => enumerabl...
10x more unreadable
At this point make it one liner
teal junco
I don’t think i would do that
Yes you would, youre just cray cray
celest thorn
True
keen halo
Did you say unreadable?
newInstructions.InsertRange(index, new[]
{
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_1),
new(OpCodes.Ldc_I4_1),
new(OpCodes.Call, Method(typeof(PlayerRolesUtils), nameof(PlayerRolesUtils.IsSCP), new[] { typeof(ReferenceHub), typeof(bool) })),
new(OpCodes.Brtrue_S, continueLabel),
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_1),
new(OpCodes.Callvirt, PropertyGetter(typeof(Component), nameof(Component.transform))),
new(OpCodes.Callvirt, PropertyGetter(typeof(Transform), nameof(Transform.position))),
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
new(OpCodes.Callvirt, PropertyGetter(typeof(EnvironmentalHazard), nameof(EnvironmentalHazard.SourcePosition))),
new(OpCodes.Call, Method(typeof(Vector3), nameof(Vector3.Distance), new[] { typeof(Vector3), typeof(Vector3) })),
new(OpCodes.Ldc_R4, 2.5f),
new(OpCodes.Clt),
new(OpCodes.Brfalse_S, continueLabel),
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_1),
new(OpCodes.Call, Method(typeof(SinkholeOnStayPatch), nameof(ApplyEffects))),
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Nop).WithLabels(continueLabel)
});
From mobile it looks like a random stuff
keen halo
Whats this do
celest thorn
Im on mobile
keen halo
celest thorn
Just give me 2s
keen halo
IL is literally gibberish
keen halo
nuh uh
celest thorn
EnteringHazard
keen halo
GIBBERISH
slate flume
Have you never written a transpiler?
slate flume
No I have dev for that stuff
💀
slate flume
```cs
newInstructions.InsertRange(index, new[]
{
...
Also this sucks
keen halo
slate flume
Use a helper method
celest thorn
No I have dev for that stuff
Bruh
keen halo
Haters
celest thorn
Idk why people are so averse to helper methods
Im not
slate flume
I could write you a better one
keen halo
keen halo
I write basic bitch c# and Im proud
teal junco
Idk why people are so averse to helper methods
What exactly is a helper method
sorry I dont know the term specifically
celest thorn
I write basic bitch c# and Im proud
Be proud you aren’t crazy
slate flume
What exactly is a helper method
An extra function you add to your class that you call instead of baking it all into the IL
celest thorn
sorry I dont know the term specifically
Its a method that you write for just handling stuff instead of writing it in IL
slate flume
Im actually a Python developer. C# is just a hobby
I do both as a hobby
celest thorn
You take the fields
slate flume
I could show you some wild ass Python code
celest thorn
Ive never used assembly either haha
I did it
keen halo
Our lives are better becuase of it
teal junco
An extra function you add to your class that you call instead of baking it all i...
So that inside the IL you can just call that method right
slate flume
So that inside the IL you can just call that method right
Bingo
Get this man a gold star
celest thorn
I used assembly x86 for the NES and in uni im studying Assembly ARM
slate flume
It's much easier to test, bug fix, and read
And the overhead of jumping to a new set of code is negligible in most cases
celest thorn
It's much easier to test, bug fix, and read
Bro like for this i love you
keen halo
My Australian wife just got home I must go bye guys
slate flume
Unless you need nano-second optimizations for something you're insane to bake the entire thing into the IL code
celest thorn
My Australian wife just got home I must go bye guys
Bye
keen halo
teal junco
My Australian wife just got home I must go bye guys
bye
celest thorn
Unless you need nano-second optimizations for something you're insane to bake th...
True
slate flume
I used assembly x86 for the NES and in uni im studying Assembly ARM
Assembly was one of the first languages I learned
And it was for cheat engine
celest thorn
And it was for cheat engine
Lol
teal junco
I could learn assembly next
Ive been stuck in C# for a year
Just never felt comfortable or had a reason to learn anything else
celest thorn
CachyOs is the superious Operating System
Some random ass linux distro
teal junco
Okay gotta go
Okay bye
slate flume
Some random ass linux distro
People spout the most random OSes as being superior
I use windows cause that way I get maximum game compatibility
Fuck that shit
celest thorn
People spout the most random OSes as being superior
True
heady turret
keen halo
Some random ass linux distro
#1 for like 6 months in a row
celest thorn
I use windows cause that way I get maximum game compatibility
In uni i know who smells worst based on what distro they use
slate flume
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/887351670642708513/1421520681807384616/sp...
Henry Danger gif 💀
celest thorn
The worst one is arch
keen halo
Its arch based
slate flume
#1 for like 6 months in a row
Yeah keep yapping bro
keen halo
keen halo
Yeah keep yapping bro
Rage Baited
celest thorn
Its arch based
Honestly i can feel the bad smell from here of everyone installing it
slate flume
Rage Baited
?
teal junco
i was looking at old screenshots. I remember this, the dude here roasted me over this
idk why i thought that was funny tbh
celest thorn
i was looking at old screenshots. I remember this, the dude here roasted me over...
Me and maro love alex
After he tried to decompile the plugin i made
And triggered the anti theft
Lol
slate flume
And triggered the anti theft
Anti theft?
What chemicals did you put in your pipe bomb bro
slate flume
Rage baiting is basically when you get tricked into being annoyed or mad at some...
Yeah I get that but like
teal junco
And we instantly saw someone trying to use it
That is mad bro
celest thorn
Which triggered an investigation and we found out it was him
slate flume
I'm not mad?
teal junco
I'm not mad?
Yeah I know you arent
celest thorn
I'm not mad?
Are you mad?
teal junco
some people are just trigger happy about "ragebait"
slate flume
some people are just trigger happy about "ragebait"
That's weird
slate flume
Crazy that this girl has a wife saying shit like that 💀
teal junco
I also like ragebaiting but it is kinda dick behaviour
celest thorn
80% of "ragebait" is just dick behaviour
Let me know a ragebaiter then
teal junco
Crazy that this girl has a wife saying shit like that 💀
Is she literally married? I assume its just an affectionate term
celest thorn
Probably massive?
slate flume
Is she literally married? I assume its just an affectionate term
I just assumed so
Considering she says she's moving to Australia
With her "Australian wife"
teal junco
I also like ragebaiting but it is kinda dick behaviour
^ Usually the absolute worst is when people are actual dicks and then say "Ha! you got mad, durr rage baited"
slate flume
^ Usually the absolute worst is when people are actual dicks and then say "Ha! y...
Real and true
celest thorn
Crazy that this girl has a wife saying shit like that 💀
Ngl i have far worst to tell you
teal junco
when people are just slightly annoying or spreading misinfo i dont care as much thougg
heady turret
Henry Danger gif 💀
celest thorn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515658940499886113/1127942486673862656/...
Wtf
Ahahahaha
teal junco
it would have applied if someone got mad about that edited image though
slate flume
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515658940499886113/1127942486673862656/...
Lmao I'm stealing all of your gifs
celest thorn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515658940499886113/1127942486673862656/...
I swear you probably stink for the hazbin hotel but you have humor
slate flume
razi did probably the more acceptable form of ragebait
Ragebait is funny when you do it against someone being pretentious
When you're being pretentious yourself and then say "ragebait" it's just annoying behavior
celest thorn
Ragebait is funny when you do it against someone being pretentious
Any sl cheater
teal junco
Real and true
Dude, a friend of mine called me a moralist who got ragebaited when I said "wtf is that pfp" to his weird ass rainbow swastik pfp
celest thorn
Dude, a friend of mine called me a moralist who got ragebaited when I said "wtf ...
Woahhhh
teal junco
needless to say i stopped being friends with him
celest thorn
Ok maybe
slate flume
Dude, a friend of mine called me a moralist who got ragebaited when I said "wtf ...
Ragebait is funny when someone takes the moral high ground
teal junco
He was also generally a homophobic dickhead
celest thorn
Is like contradictory
teal junco
And hung out with absolute specimens
celest thorn
And hung out with absolute specimens
I can imagine
teal junco
Ragebait is funny when you do it against someone being pretentious
I hate when people ragebait others for being serious though
if you take something serious in front of these kids they start ragebaiting you
celest thorn
if you take something serious in front of these kids they start ragebaiting you
Honestly the funniest thing is destroying their arguments
teal junco
He was also generally a homophobic dickhead
I dont think he knew i was lgbtq
celest thorn
But its an endless battle
teal junco
Honestly the funniest thing is destroying their arguments
Thats the thing
theyre not there to win an argument seriously
they probably dont even believe what theyre saying