plugins-dev-chat

[spare zodiac]

SCP Public Laboratory

[upper vapor]

Fortune cookie:
You will suffer an eye disease that makes you blind permanently

[celest thorn]

I don’t ;(

I tried

But it always failed

Because i just can mod really well but not create

Not for ideas or anything

But just i have a block

[bright vine]

i'm... stuck on the voice part

i don't undersatnd

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            {
                ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat;
            }

            base.OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(ev);
        }

        public override void OnPlayerReceivingVoiceMessage(PlayerReceivingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            {
                    ev.IsAllowed = true;
                    return;
            }

            base.OnPlayerReceivingVoiceMessage(ev);
        }

atp im trying everything

[upper vapor]

Nope

You need to send the voice message to the player who's listening to SCP chat
If they're the one speaking, then set the channel

[bright vine]

im so slow but is it intentional for the GUI thing not to appear..?

i can’t tell if it’s broken

[upper vapor]

It should appear

Can you hear anything?

[bright vine]

oh okay great so it’s broken

my audio is off, so I can’t tell

[upper vapor]

Right

[celest thorn]

Hiii chat

Anyone alive?

[spare zodiac]

kinda

[celest thorn]

Rise from the dead ig

[spare zodiac]

zero when war thunder in SL?

[celest thorn]

Soon

[restive turret]

hi cat

[celest thorn]

Hiii catboy

[unique crane]

😐

[celest thorn]

sorry ;(

[unique crane]

I mean maybe he aint gonna deny it

Dont know

[celest thorn]

Lol

I mean he likes cats

So

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup-nervous-cat-cat-nervous-cat-gulp-gif-17492267992575590303

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[celest thorn]

You don’t?

[upper vapor]

Yeah but catboy isn't really the correct term for that 😭

[hearty shard]

catboy is valid

[celest thorn]

Idk

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[upper vapor]

Explain yourself

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[celest thorn]

Nameless is meanie to me

She doesn’t even reply ;(

[upper vapor]

Womp

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/what-emmh-gif-7554455085812155505

[upper vapor]

What the fucky

[hearty shard]

problem?

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

Im checking how it evolves lol

Guys almost 30 hours

[spare zodiac]

push another 24 after 48

[true cedar]

holy shit ive not seen this girl in a loooong time

[hearty shard]

i mean ur blind

[true cedar]

SHUT UP!!

[hearty shard]

:c

[tribal dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1228355712325783662/1229387923326238810/tenor_21.gif

[alpine glade]

haha

[steep vigil]

help me pls

fixed

[hearty shard]

btw you should prob use #plugins-discussion, since this chat is for devs

[restive turret]

No

[worn gull]

You need to download it 😄

[fathom charm]

Can I access to Player.Readylist in WaitingForPlayers?

[hearty shard]

well yes.. but itll be empty

[fathom charm]

Yep

I know

So there's no way around it logically?

[restive turret]

wdym

[hearty shard]

well what would you do

[fathom charm]

Conditionally broadcast music in the lobby

[hearty shard]

Then start handling it on WaitingForPlayers

or

Joined event

[restive turret]

OnPlayerLeaving

[hearty shard]

depends how you do it

[restive turret]

[fathom charm]

Well, at the moment, I'm doing it through WaitingForPlayers.

[upper vapor]

start a coroutine

[fathom charm]

Hu? Why?

[upper vapor]

oh music

i'm blind

i thought you wrote regular broadcasts

well

[fathom charm]

https://tenor.com/view/bellebows-tiktok-dog-funny-silly-gif-26293491

[upper vapor]

use an audio api that does this

broadcasts to everyone

[fathom charm]

I use your SecretLab

NAudio

[upper vapor]

[fathom charm]

Oh

wait

[upper vapor]

example is in the wiki

[spare zodiac]

funi typo

[upper vapor]

where

efficacy?
that's another word for efficiency

[spare zodiac]

I've just found the best way how to make grenade damage you as less as possible

you have to make your hand look at the grenade and look sideways this way hitting your hitbox limb

nevermind that is not taking into consideration

[upper pike]

The 300 damage grenade

Do grenades even account for different head and limb hitboxes?

[spare zodiac]

I just looked and noup

[static meteor]

I think the light on this life pod got fucked

[slate flume]

Ah yes, indentified

[grand flower]

in
  den
    ti
      fied

[slate flume]

This is a legitimate NW bug because cassie doesn't recognize "identified" as a word it can say because of this typo

[celest thorn]

Indentify yourself

[true cedar]

im so confused

[grand flower]

i can confuse you some more with C++ if you'd like

[true cedar]

so you admit cpp is confusing

[grand flower]

Not to me

For the most part

[hearty shard]

Guh

[grand flower]

worked on some cool stuff

[true cedar]

literally

[grand flower]

C++ is based

gonna make the best Luau plugin ever

[true cedar]

crazy idea but instead of having a fucked up excuse for constraints what if you had

actual constraints

[grand flower]

this is literally constraints

you can just make your own constraints

with a lot more flexibity than C#'s

[slate flume]

You know the nato letter designations + number that get assigned to foundation forces?
How do I get that

[true cedar]

constraints implemented in the ugliest way imaginable

[grand flower]

template<typename A, typename B>
concept CanAdd = requires(A first, B second)
{
  a += b;
};

wow I can constraint two types being able to add each other

much ugly

you can't tell me that's not cool

[true cedar]

not rlly

lmfao

[grand flower]

boo

[true cedar]

structural type systems are disgusting

its just confusing

[slate flume]

I'm gonna crash out I can't find it anywhere

[grand flower]

UnitNumber

iirc

or something like that on the mtf role base thingy

or human role base

whatever it was

[grand flower]

I can agree to the extent that it was confusing for me until I learned enough about it to understand it

[true cedar]

it makes a mockery of trait systems and provides basically no benefits beyond just like. interfaces and shit

[grand flower]

But they're extremely flexible in terms of "the compiler only cares that in the end the code generated with the type you pass is sane"

and in my case are gonna provide a super clean API for developers to expose Unreal types to Luau

[grand flower]

and you can do stuff like this without concepts

concepts are just way to get better compiler/static analysis errors

that are a lot more readable

i.e. this

[true cedar]

you can do that with traits too

[grand flower]

You can do traits in C++ too

[true cedar]

oh ofc you can

jesus chris

t

[grand flower]

Just that if you don't respect those traits, you'll cause big compiler errors

[slate flume]

The closest I could find was UnitNamingRule and NamingRulesManager but neither have it exactly, they contain helper methods

[grand flower]

which concepts would simplify

[grand flower]

check how these are used

[slate flume]

I did

I found nothing useful

[true cedar]

are they like actual traits like haskell's type classes

[slate flume]

Wait

I have idea

[true cedar]

or just called traits cause that sounds right

[grand flower]

They're just template specializations

You can mark a type as having X with them

But you can do so without providing X and you'll just cause a compile error

[true cedar]

huh

[grand flower]

one in Unreal for example

template<>
struct TStructOpsTypeTraits<FBindingObject> : public TStructOpsTypeTraitsBase2<FBindingObject>
{
    enum
    {
        WithAddStructReferencedObjects = true,
    };
};

You just tell the engine that FBindingObject has a void AddStructReferencedObjects(FReferenceCollector& Collector); function

so that it knows to use it

[true cedar]

what the fuck thats disgusting

[grand flower]

the engine just checks if TStructOpsTypeTraits<FBindingObject>::WithAddStructReferencedObjects is true

which, by default, TStructOpsTypeTraitsBase2 provides these

[slate flume]

I might be a secret genius

[true cedar]

genuinely nauseating to look at

[grand flower]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Super easy to read for us

[true cedar]

this is the problem with generics/constraints implemented through metaprogramming

incredibly inelegant and produces insane amounts of boilerplate

[soft depot]

mfw when NineTailedFoxNamingRule:

anyways, you cant hijack it or anything, stuff is sent via indexes to static arrays on client and server so you cant send a custom team

so most you can do is force the template sent, probably by patching GenerateNew

[slate flume]

Yeah I already figured it out

[slate flume]

It's why I said this

You don't even NineTailedFoxNamingRule to get it to work

var role = (HumanRole)attacker.roleManager.CurrentRole;
        if (role.UsesUnitNames)           Logger.Info(NamingRulesManager.ClientFetchReceived(attacker.GetTeam(), role.UnitNameId));

[slate flume]

Were you ever able to figure this one out?

Wait

Found it

[mild ice]

What do you guys want the VSR for lol

It's dead and burried

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-a-perfect-person-cat-side-eye-distress-looking-gif-16639804187763803346

chat-devs-plugins

[true cedar]

genuine question why was the vsr entirely replaced

instead of just

modified

[slate flume]

I was having a chat with some people about rules in the old VSR and a guy was claiming that before they updated to the CSG, it was against VSR to let people fly

[slate flume]

I mean it depends on your definition of "entirely replaced"
They

1. Renamed it
2. Removed a bunch of poorly written and bad rules, and generally entirely improved the clarity and stipulations

But the core framework of the document is exactly the same

[bright vine]

hi guys

HI

GUYS

[bright vine]

im having issues with trying to make a human use scp chat

im doing it simple first to see if it even works, (it does not work) any ideas? i can't find any info in dnSpy either

        public override void OnPlayerReceivingVoiceMessage(PlayerReceivingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.IsAllowed = true;
        }

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat;
        }

Do i like

have to patch the validation thing

i found ValidateReceive

[slate flume]

public override void OnPlayerReceivingVoiceMessage(PlayerReceivingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
{
    ev.IsAllowed = true;
}

Does nothing

[bright vine]

Yeah figured

[slate flume]

public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
{
ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat;
}
Should work

[bright vine]

really? but it doesnt work

i don't see the vc icon

[slate flume]

Oh well then you need to redo the validation

[bright vine]

redo..?

oh do you mean patch it

[slate flume]

No

Something a bit like

foreach (Player listener in Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers))
{
  if (!listener.IsAlive) continue;
  if (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole) continue;
  if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) is
      VoiceChatChannel.None) continue;
  listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
}

[bright vine]

oh thank ou

you*

[slate flume]

You might have to change it a bit depending on what you're doing

But the idea is you just send the message to the players you want to have it

[bright vine]

am i doing this right? i still don't see the scp vc icon

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat;

            foreach (Player listener in Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers))
            {
                if (!listener.IsAlive) continue;
                if (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole) continue;
                if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) is VoiceChatChannel.None) continue;

                listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
            }
        }```

[slate flume]

How're you testing this

[bright vine]

im playing on 2 scpsl instances

same account

one as a scp and other as a human

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[bright vine]

So

Could there be anything wrong with the code

[slate flume]

Add logging

[restive turret]

Real

[bright vine]

thank you, i will try that

[static meteor]

Goddamnit

[worn gull]

Use Rider

[static meteor]

Cant be assed to learn a new ui

[restive turret]

Insiders lol

[grand flower]

Rider is based

learning its UI wont take more than a day

[upper vapor]

XDDDD

[restive turret]

I still don't like it

[upper vapor]

Skill issue

[restive turret]

I tried using it , and wasnt a great experience

Same with all jetbeans app

[upper vapor]

JetBrains

You...

[restive turret]

Whatever

It will be jetbeans for me

[static meteor]

I have it installed just dont use it

[bright vine]

so i logged everything, this part

if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) is VoiceChatChannel.None) continue;

skipped it, because the voice channel was "proximity" even though it was set to scpchat

[upper vapor]

Next level will issue

[upper vapor]

What

[bright vine]

i think its a client thing

[bright vine]

this was the entire code

i removed the (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole) and (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) is VoiceChatChannel.None) checks

i tried again and it still did not work

but when i set the channel to Intercom

it worked

[upper vapor]

Set it to ribs Sunday

Round summary

[bright vine]

that worked yes

so..

humans' vc cant be set to ScpChat

for some reason

[royal mica]

Me when Disconnecting connId=0 to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler: NullReferenceException Object reference not set to an instance of an object

[restive turret]

🔥

[upper vapor]

Well set that to round Sunday as well

Probably because humans aren't supposed to hear SCPs Kek

Though the client validation doesn't really make sense

[bright vine]

can't i patch it?

[upper vapor]

It was just easier not to ifdef it

[upper vapor]

Patch the client

[bright vine]

would RoundSummary not be affected as well

[upper vapor]

Good luck xd

[bright vine]

oh the client

i heard u cant really change the client right

[upper vapor]

Round Sunday can be heard by anyone

Just use that

[upper vapor]

Correct

[bright vine]

so what i need to do is check if the round hasnt ended yet, so i can change how "RoundSummary" works (e.g: make it accessible to scps and a certain human only)

is that how this is supposed to go

[bright vine]

otherwise if it ended, dont change RoundSummary so everyone can speak in RoundSummary

[upper vapor]

You can change it to round summary either way

Don't change it from round summary though

[bright vine]

it can be heard by anyone thats the issue i onl

Um

[upper vapor]

Send the message to the correct players only

Instead of changing the original message

[bright vine]

oh yes

rigt

right

[upper vapor]

var message = ev.Message

Should create a copy I think

[bright vine]

so 2 messages, original message still working and the copy message going to scps

[spare zodiac]

Round Sunday my beloved

[bright vine]

if i want the message to be heard by scps only, i'd just change the original message instead

now i understand

thank you

[royal mica]

Also don't forget to prevent the original message received by players whom you sent to, or they'll hear double

[spare zodiac]

they won't necceseary hear double, but will hear messages being overwrite by one another

[bright vine]

by preventing the event from running right?

ev.IsAllowed = false;

...right?

[celest thorn]

hiii chat

[spare zodiac]

indeed

[spare zodiac]

halo zero

[royal mica]

If you copy the original and let the normal one go through (you are a human after all) then you would hear it twice, no?

[royal mica]

yup

[celest thorn]

hiiii how you doing

[royal mica]

[celest thorn]

how you doing?

[bright vine]

you wouldnt hear it twice tho

because the message is going to scps no?

[spare zodiac]

noup

you will hear one "merged" which is not merged at all and sounds like fan

*hairdryer

[royal mica]

oh wtf. I thought SCP global chat and positional audio works good even if same audio

so it just craps itself cool

[slate flume]

Bro what fucking layermask is the floor on

[spare zodiac]

the floor layermask

trust the process

[royal mica]

In your case no, I'm just exploring potential issues in case I need to do the same

[slate flume]

I'll end you

[slate flume]

I KNOW I HAVE THIS

WHICH ONE IS ITTT

[spare zodiac]

it's 25

but there's no only one for floor iirc

[slate flume]

Also you should really use this one

[celest thorn]

i say its 4

[royal mica]

Honestly, just make a debug gun, that fires raycasts and details the Layers the found object is on

[spare zodiac]

the le water

just use 2

[slate flume]

That's smart actually

[celest thorn]

yea water is always the answer, like water created us

[static meteor]

I have a command that does that

[spare zodiac]

we created water like the pyramids, one by one

[slate flume]

And no it's not for some reason

[spare zodiac]

use all of them

all the layer masks

[slate flume]

I don't want all of them

[royal mica]

isn't 25 only contains Rihanna?

[celest thorn]

the pyramids are made out of water, like we all know you cannot go inside and see else you became a fish

[slate flume]

I want floor

[spare zodiac]

no floor for u

also floor should be the world

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020295115828375562/1426573865559134278/cry-about-it-pyra.gif

[slate flume]

Except it's not

[celest thorn]

wrong one

[spare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-depression-gif-16712269959651793493

[spare zodiac]

use layermask 2

[slate flume]

I'm trying to do a raycast downwards when a player dies so I can get the floor

[upper vapor]

Np

[celest thorn]

Hiiiii :3

[spare zodiac]

I did that

[celest thorn]

btw i converted another server to use your library axwabo

[slate flume]

True

[celest thorn]

its slowly growing

it will take over the world soon enough

[slate flume]

What library

[spare zodiac]

I used layermasks:

1, 13, 16, 28

[slate flume]

You used the TransparentFX layer?

[celest thorn]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1407844197301620826

[spare zodiac]

apparently yeah

[slate flume]

Oh

Why not just make your own

I did it in like less than an hour

[spare zodiac]

why re-invent the wheel

[celest thorn]

i don't have a degree in audio engineering and this is ALOT customizable

[slate flume]

Cause it reduces reliance on other people

[slate flume]

How customizable are we talking

[celest thorn]

you can even touch wheel idk even existed

like you know the dj set

like same shit you can do

for each audio source

and an audio can be 2 in the same moment

or more

[slate flume]

I have no idea what you're talking about right now lmao

[celest thorn]

idk how anything works in there but it works amazing

[celest thorn]

neither do i

i know its just magic the audio that comes out

and what i can do

which is quite impressive

and really useful with stuff like temp audio etc...

[slate flume]

My point is that interfacing and getting audio to play is pretty easy to do without needing a whole dependency

[celest thorn]

but but but auto conversion?

[slate flume]

Wdym

[celest thorn]

you can play mp3 directly

like

[slate flume]

Yeah I can too lol

That was really easy to setup

You convert to mono and resample to 48000

[celest thorn]

honestly

like i don't know what goes behind it

if you ask me about primitives

i can help you

but when it comes to audio or music

im stupid

like for me cassie is already magic

(im joking but you understand what i mean)

[slate flume]

It takes like one function to get audio playing out of a speaker toy and that includes auto conversion for .mp3 files

[celest thorn]

for me its just magic

don't break the illusion

that behind there's a goblin making sure

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947857954655322133/1393607262639226891/togif-42.gif

[slate flume]

I like to automatically equalize .mp3s I pass in to reduce clipping

[celest thorn]

idk what any of this means

[slate flume]

Audio clipping?

[celest thorn]

im not qualified what audio is

[celest thorn]

yes

[slate flume]

Fuck I had a really good explanation a while back

Lemme find it

[celest thorn]

lol

[static meteor]

Lines

[celest thorn]

that isn't bad?

[slate flume]

Clipping happens when the amplitude of the audio wave exceeds the volume of what can be played

Essentially

Waveform too loud, volume isn't high enough to account for it

It's a little more complicated than that cause it's not exactly volume but it's hard to explain

What you want is a waveform that is in bounds

[celest thorn]

so its just a lim?

that you put to the function?

thats it?

[slate flume]

Kind of

Instead of clamping the PCM samples between -1 and 1, you find the max amplitude and divide all the samples by that, and that fixes the clipping

[slate flume]

You go from this (clipping)

[slate flume]

To this (no audio clipping)

[slate flume]

The red lines are essentially the hard limits of what can be sent

[slate flume]

The clamping between this limits pretty much already happens

So instead of clamping you reduce the size of the entire wave

NAudio already has good functionality built in for the basic audio processing
You read the file on a reader -> .ToMono() on it -> Pass it into a sample provider to resample it to 48 KHz

Then you can pass that into a speakertoy to play it

Also iirc you can link speakertoys by giving them the same controller ID

Even if that's not the case, you could also just play the audiomessage manually on them all

I think audio stuff is a lot like how math is in school for some people

People look at it and they're like "Wow it's gonna be super complicated and I'm never gonna understand it" so they of course always fail when working with it
The truth is it really isn't that complicated to understand

[glad pagoda]

DSP (what audio is a part of) is literally considered one of the hardest parts of CS

[restive turret]

Send it tru ffmpeg

[glad pagoda]

i still love how

ffmpeg

managed to have such a bad C api

that almost nothing uses it

iirc it was like 1000LOC to convert an mp3 file to ogg with it

[restive turret]

Lol

[slate flume]

Well when you get to analogue -> discrete and conversions between them it gets pretty complicated with things like fourier series' but it really just comes down to using information to approximate a wave

Fourier transforms are pretty dope

[slate flume]

This is my point ^

It's like 20 lines of code

[glad pagoda]

well if you use premade libraries that handle everything then it might appear simple

[celest thorn]

but those 20 lines are worth an entire degree

[slate flume]

Bingo

[slate flume]

Bro nah

Lmao

[glad pagoda]

but the libraries themselves are some of the most complicated stuff that exists there

[slate flume]

I mean kinda?

[celest thorn]

i swear audio is like something i've never understood

[slate flume]

I'd argue networking is probably more complicated than audio

[restive turret]

Eh

[glad pagoda]

nah, networking itself is dead simple

[restive turret]

I send, you receive

[slate flume]

I think you hype up the difficulty of audio too much

[glad pagoda]

the only kinda complicated part in it is compensating for latency

but for usecases that don't care about that, it's dead simple

[celest thorn]

the most complex thing about it is figuring out why sl doesn't like the packet i sent

[slate flume]

Audio processing is just math

[celest thorn]

without client access is like just wanna bet on what it is

[slate flume]

And the math is so well documented and researched that it's pretty easy to understand

[celest thorn]

and probably next update it works

[glad pagoda]

well, you could say the same about rocket science

[restive turret]

Bro you have the deser method

[slate flume]

Yeah but audio processing isn't rocket science lol

[glad pagoda]

it kinda is lol

[celest thorn]

rocket science is just plane but goes faster and up

[slate flume]

No lol

[restive turret]

Where is up?

[celest thorn]

and if you are elon

and if it goes up explodes after 5 seconds

[restive turret]

Z ?

[glad pagoda]

you can basically do 0 real world audio work if you don't know how to read research papers and the mathematical notations used there

[slate flume]

Well yeah duh

[restive turret]

Next update will break everything

🔥

[celest thorn]

true

[slate flume]

But like if you study calculus it gets a lot more understandable

I have a bunch of old notes on this stuff

[restive turret]

What's the thing you did and you think it will break?

@celest thorn

[slate flume]

I tought myself how to work with fourier series and transforms

The old notes are kind of dope to look at

[celest thorn]

it was the culling toy but then started working next update

[celest thorn]

bro wtf is this

god i wanna die

[slate flume]

It's calculus

[celest thorn]

idk what that is

but my brain isn't good enough for that

so let me stand on the corner and cry

for how stupid i am

[royal mica]

that is just simple simplifications

[slate flume]

I mean once you know the symbols it really isn't that hard to understand

[royal mica]

why do I know what is happening in there

[glad pagoda]

i love how people get scared at the mathematical notation for a for loop

[celest thorn]

i really seriously never studied it

[slate flume]

Mathmatics and programming go hand-in-hand

There was a dope video I watched a while back

[restive turret]

I would like all mathematic stuff put into a programming language

[glad pagoda]

but not gonna lie

the mathematic notation

[celest thorn]

Sigma????

[glad pagoda]

sucks

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230715608409178172/1284747780757389322/03d2892a3ae38c550954a0aeac400ffc.gif

[royal mica]

Where tf did P/N go from the simplification in the 1-2 line

[slate flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5s0h42GfvM

[upper vapor]

Default?

[slate flume]

N = 5 because I had 5 test points

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020295115828375562/1426573865559134278/cry-about-it-pyra.gif

[slate flume]

So instead of looking for the floor on a layermask I should exclude all the layermasks I don't want?

[royal mica]

Ok ,but that is for the top when you subsistute 1 value.
But during simplification, you cannot do substitution cause then it won't be true for ALL inputs

[upper vapor]

Let's go

-# You ping me when I'm in the chat but you don't ping me when I'm not

[slate flume]

I was trying to just simplify the N=5 case

[celest thorn]

i ping always

[restive turret]

Lel

[royal mica]

Ahh I see. It was not immediately obvious

yeah then ok

[slate flume]

Yeah my notes are a mess lol

I was mostly doing it out of boredom cause I was sitting in class

[royal mica]

its your notes, as long as you understand that is good

also LaTeX my beloved

[restive turret]

What if I'm not understanding my own notes

[slate flume]

Hell yeah

[restive turret]

The suit?

[royal mica]

No

[celest thorn]

we should start doing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1427752147520454798/static-assets-upload9383754074684455065.gif

for who knows math

and who doesn't

i wanna live happly my life

without knowing this shit

none is going to ask me do the Capital Sigma of n - 1

[royal mica]

you are modding a 3D game with Vector3 and Quaternions. You must know math lol

[slate flume]

Bro you program as a hobby and you're telling me you're intimidated by math?

[celest thorn]

im not

[upper vapor]

I'm not reimplemeing FFT not DCT

[slate flume]

I actually one time accidentally refigured out rodriguez' quaternion formula

I think that's what it was?

[celest thorn]

why...

[slate flume]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigues'_rotation_formula

[slate flume]

I was making a physics engine in minecraft out of command blocks

[celest thorn]

gg

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-rodriguez-jesus-saul-saulsweep-better-call-saul-gif-25765671

[slate flume]

I was trying to figure out the most efficient way to apply rotations

[royal mica]

Oh yeah, that formula is really intuitive when you are fiddling with 3D space

even when you make changes in gimp or other image editors, when you want to rotate the image in a weird way, you are applying it

[slate flume]

Well quaternions avoid gimbal lock

[celest thorn]

cool

[slate flume]

Crazy that some guy was just walking on a bridge when he figured out quaternions

[upper vapor]

Did you mean normalize
Also what do you use then, NAudio + NLayer?
But if you load in the whole file that stays in memory and isn't ideal for all use cases

[restive turret]

Apply rotation to my dead body so i can rotate

[celest thorn]

but yea if you wonder why i don't really know that deep math because im a self taught in almost math and programming

so thats why

i never studied it before uni

i just learned

[upper vapor]

Roll in your grave

[slate flume]

I did, and yes, and true

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

For my use case it's fine because I'm loading like 3 second audio clips

[restive turret]

10000 3 second clip

[upper vapor]

Yeah that's the ideal use case

Unless you load hundreds or thousands

[upper vapor]

Ask icedchai about his Cassie replacement kek

[restive turret]

Playing ost in the lobby

[slate flume]

The simplest way after that is to just not throw all the chunks in one large float[] pcmBuffer like I currently do

Not too hard, just throw it on an update loop

But it's a bit excessive for me

[upper vapor]

Me when

One buffer

ISampleProvider

[restive turret]

Me when

I don't use audio

[upper vapor]

I knew you were gonna say that

You'll die in silence

[restive turret]

Lmao

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Yes since there won't be any sound of it

[slate flume]

So @upper vapor do you just call .Read() on the sample provider on an update loop or something

[upper vapor]

Yes

Look at the code lol

Tough what I said doesn't really answer what I was replying to lol

[slate flume]

I glanced at it

There's like 7 folders

I gave up after that

I didn't wanna do all that just to figure out one question

[restive turret]

You know you can search in GitHub right

[slate flume]

Not if you're not logged in

Learned that the hard way

[restive turret]

Yes i sometimes even got 403 error (or smth) when i forgot to log in while in uni

[celest thorn]

crazy

[restive turret]

I have different account for it and not always logged in as default

[glad pagoda]

and you know how bad that is?

[slate flume]

True

[glad pagoda]

it's always missing 80% of results

[slate flume]

Also I don't really trust other people's repositories anymore

The formatting is always shit

[restive turret]

Or press . And search there

[restive turret]

Most of times i find what i search for

[glad pagoda]

iirc that doesn't always work

[slate flume]

Last repo I checked for an SL plugin I check a few of the commands and they literally had throw new NotImplementedException() on them lmao

Like bro you're saying you have these features?

[restive turret]

Lol

[slate flume]

I also think people have a tendency to way overcomplicate things

Roundabout solutions and weirdly formatted code

Not everyone

[grand flower]

I love writing complicated code

[slate flume]

But a lot of repos I look at are weird

[restive turret]

I know

[slate flume]

At least when I write complicated code I add documents explaining it

[restive turret]

I format what vs do

[slate flume]

I look at a randos repo and they have no comments, no docs, no implementation information

[restive turret]

I write then document later

Sometimes the later never comes

[slate flume]

Real

[restive turret]

With export docs i have to

Or at least some degree

[celest thorn]

i do only for other projects

that are public

or have important use or for other servers

[slate flume]

I have like 20 stickers of this cat specifically

[grand flower]

i do too kek

as long as you do it's good

[celest thorn]

i have a total of 4 gif of pyra that i cycle through

and still probably gonna add some more

[celest thorn]

but problem is idk how tf xc2 got rated for teens

that game has some crude sex jokes

that is crazy

[restive turret]

As you are

[celest thorn]

i don't make any?

[slate flume]

@grand flower is probably the only normal one here

[celest thorn]

lol

[restive turret]

I meant crazy but

[celest thorn]

oh

[spare zodiac]

halo

[restive turret]

No he using unreal can't be real

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/pyra-xenoblade.gif

[celest thorn]

this one 2 frames after has an entire maid outfit robot

[slate flume]

He's the only one here who I haven't seen be weirdly obsessed about a specific thing

[restive turret]

He started the no waypoint so

[slate flume]

Yeah but that's sensible and not really an obsession

[celest thorn]

i mean being obsessed with a project or something should instead be something great

[slate flume]

Waypoints are dogshit

[celest thorn]

if you are obsessed with something in a way it means you care about it

[slate flume]

I think obsession is generally not an objective thing

[celest thorn]

atleast thats my point

[slate flume]

I value objectivity

[slate flume]

Well yeah duh

[slate flume]

Even though I'm far from objective

[restive turret]

I already have a PoC system to replace waypoints just can't build the client cus fucking unity bug

[celest thorn]

you will never be and neither us

neither AI

is gonna be

[slate flume]

I think obsession is generally not conducive to living a balanced life

[celest thorn]

i mean im obsessed with my project

and i put alot of time

[slate flume]

I get that and I respect that

[celest thorn]

but because i love what i make

[slate flume]

I just mean it's abnormal

I have the same problem

I spend hours programming on a given day

[celest thorn]

idk i don't find it abnormal

[slate flume]

It's your normal

Which is abnormal

[celest thorn]

i've seen people around me get obsessed with fucking pencils

or shit like that

so

[slate flume]

Yes true

[celest thorn]

mine is resonable

[restive turret]

Huh

[slate flume]

Obsession isn't reasonable

Believe it or not, the average person isn't obsessive about stuff

[celest thorn]

my best friend is obsessed with collecting pencils of all of the colors and having all of them

like if he sees you with a new pencil

[slate flume]

Just because your friends get obsessive about things doesn't mean it's normal, it just means you surround yourself with like-minded people

[celest thorn]

he will ask you if he could have the same one

[restive turret]

Atleast he ain't collecting funkopops

[celest thorn]

like everyone i know is atleast obsessed with something

and many obsessions are just normalized

like look

[slate flume]

Just because your friends get obsessive about things doesn't mean it's normal, it just means you surround yourself with like-minded people

Whether you consciously recognize that or not doesn't really matter

[celest thorn]

so in a society like ours obsessions is pretty normalized, its just you don't see it but everyone cares how they look

[restive turret]

I don't

[celest thorn]

in a deep way you care, trust

it will come the day you will wonder if you look alr

or not

soon enough or later

its just normal

[slate flume]

Haha no

[celest thorn]

i don't think you will fucking want to look like an homeless

[slate flume]

I mean to the first part

Not the second

Caring about what other people think of you is natural, and that nature is far from an obsession

[restive turret]

Umm i already did that

Face wise atleast

[celest thorn]

bro i hope you take showers

like seriously

[slate flume]

You say obsession is normalized because, again

Just because your friends get obsessive about things doesn't mean it's normal, it just means you surround yourself with like-minded people

[celest thorn]

im just cherry picking but if you wanna look just more in general just check social media

[restive turret]

Oh as look i was thinking about the face look of it not the whole stuff

[celest thorn]

you will see that obsession of look is really wide spread

[slate flume]

That's called insecurity

[celest thorn]

like i got called homeless for my look

that day i wanted to burry myself deep down

[slate flume]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[celest thorn]

i know what this is

but idk i have my own idea that generally it is widespread

[slate flume]

"Just check social media to see people obsessed over their looks" means that your data pool is that of people who are active on the internet, not people generally

Not everyone has social media

[grand flower]

huh

[slate flume]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

I geniunly never encountered someone who doesn't

[restive turret]

I think cyn will deny it

[slate flume]

I have youtube and discord, and that's about it

[celest thorn]

like even in the mountains of random villages they have socials

like

[grand flower]

deny what

[slate flume]

Lmao no

I live in a rural town and a majority of people here aren't active on social media

[upper vapor]

Skill issue for them
https://github.com/Axwabo/SecretLabNAudio/blob/main/SecretLabNAudio.Core%2FAudioPlayer.cs#L79

[restive turret]

The message you replied to

[upper vapor]

W

[slate flume]

Social media sucks

[celest thorn]

i geniunly found people in the middle of nothing in the grass fields of fucking sicily and this guys had socials

[slate flume]

It's all sensationalist garbage

[grand flower]

define normal

[slate flume]

Yeah cause he has shit else to do

[upper vapor]

Do you format it..?

[celest thorn]

they lived inside fucking houses that were dying

[restive turret]

#define normal

[slate flume]

You're the only person I've seen here who isn't weirdly obsessed with something

[celest thorn]

#define <normal.h>

[slate flume]

Unless I'm wrong

[celest thorn]

rats

rats are cool

[grand flower]

I just keep my personal life separate from all this

[slate flume]

I think you need to expand your horizons

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[restive turret]

I press the format button ye

[slate flume]

See and try to understand more of the world and the people in it

The internet isn't the end-all be-all of everything

Not everyone needs social media to fuel their insecurities and get a drip of dopamine

And not everyone is obsessed with their hobbies

[celest thorn]

i geniunly studied social studies, and seriously as much as they can help sometimes they aren't helpful and in this case they are because it was a debate

[royal mica]

who wants to be normal, that is boring

[slate flume]

We all studied social studies

[celest thorn]

obv i know all of this

[celest thorn]

I mean i know a ton of people who didn't

[restive turret]

I don't think i did

[slate flume]

Is it not mandatory in most schools?
It is in the US I thought

[celest thorn]

and by social studies i mean "sociology, anthropology, psychology" but because i went to a specialized school for that

[upper vapor]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[upper vapor]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥

[slate flume]

Normal people are generally happier

[restive turret]

I'm not in US and no idea

[static meteor]

Depends on the state i think

[celest thorn]

like i geniunly asked americans and they don't know anything about it so idk where you come from or idk but geniunly never seen anyone know what i was talking about

regarding that sphere

[royal mica]

tbh ignorant people are happier. People who think and observe realise the dark reality and just be generall unhappy about the whole situation

[restive turret]

You mean edgeless safety cube

[slate flume]

100%

[celest thorn]

even tho 90% of the sociologist are american

[grand flower]

You don't have to be ignorant to be happy

[celest thorn]

i geniunly sometimes think that yes you need to be

[grand flower]

i just don't really worry about stuff I have no control over anyway

[slate flume]

There's a difference between being taught something and remembering it

[slate flume]

Also true

[upper vapor]

Just be delulu

[slate flume]

But there's a correlation

[celest thorn]

i never studied to remember but just apply it

like i passed with high grades because of how i did my final exam which was way unique

than alot of people

in terms of connection

[royal mica]

The fucking timing. Random call just as I sent this, I pick up cause it might be something. "Nihao" instant end call for fuck sake fucking spam calls

[slate flume]

My point in all this is just that obsession isn't a normal thing

[upper vapor]

Petition to rename this channel to #philosophy-psychology-chat

[celest thorn]

lol

[slate flume]

"Normal" people aren't obsessive about things

[celest thorn]

yo what you guys think about Kant?

[royal mica]

ALL ROADS

[upper vapor]

kihivott.hu

[restive turret]

Yo mom

[upper vapor]

Can you name a single normal person then

[slate flume]

Yes lmao

[celest thorn]

[upper vapor]

Who's lmao

[slate flume]

My dad

[royal mica]

These fuckers are spoofing phone numbers now via IP phone, so it's starting to become useless

[upper vapor]

Bias?

[royal mica]

this happened to my own phone number, like I cannot call from abroad anymore

[upper vapor]

What the fucky

[royal mica]

Yup

[slate flume]

You can make that argument about anyone I name because I'm gonna know anyone I name

[upper vapor]

Why would you leave this country tough

[royal mica]

You can just say I'm [phone] and call with that number

[celest thorn]

if im gonna call it

[upper vapor]

Yeah I'm ragebaiting kek

[celest thorn]

are you going to answer?

[restive turret]

Are you really 12345678?

[royal mica]

Not my phone number, just a random one

[celest thorn]

ok

[upper vapor]

The €100 toll:

[royal mica]

Why would I share my own number

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-drinking-driving-gif-11850080643895901975

[celest thorn]

let me try and call it up

[royal mica]

I don't think that is even a live number

wait its not even correct

[restive turret]

Ye lol

[upper vapor]

06 20 123 4567

[restive turret]

Should be 000-0000

[upper vapor]

Call that @celest thorn

Can you even call 06 from abroad

[celest thorn]

Calling

[restive turret]

Use +36

[upper vapor]

Why tf does +36 and 06 exist

Can't we just use country codes

Somebody was too lazy to type the + and was like let's change 0 to 3

[restive turret]

+36 is Hungarian call code

[royal mica]

yea, 06 is hungarian internal call

[celest thorn]

im calling

[royal mica]

I guess its a backwards compat back when +36 was not widespread

[celest thorn]

and none is picking up

[restive turret]

Well now you know everyone's phone number

[celest thorn]

none picked it up

[royal mica]

I don't cause Its not my phone number

you are calling a random person

[restive turret]

But you dont know what number is who

[royal mica]

if it connects at all

[celest thorn]

ok bro

[static meteor]

Tad fast

[sacred sierra]

KSP?

[static meteor]

Yes

[celest thorn]

yes

[spare zodiac]

no

[restive turret]

Maybe

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/shitfuck-gif-11051990818342192412

[celest thorn]

yo guys what game should i play

that is like singleplayer with goated story or atleast good

[icy knoll]

skate 3

[worthy rune]

in comparison to other programming concepts i find this hard to believe

[celest thorn]

i never liked skate ngl im not a skater or something like that

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/bzuv07al.png

I did it

49h in SL

like any of you has ever played STALKER?

because idk like peaked my interest

[worthy rune]

I have only done alittle DSP myself by reading a online book about it and doing some basic audio stuff and found that it was alot harder than other stuff

also remember audio had the human component to it aswell its not "just math" like you say. if your doing audio processing you have to make it sound good with no artifacts which adds another layer ontop of what you have todo

[upper vapor]

Real
But once you get the hang of it ofc it's easy

It's also easier if you know some music production

I still can't fathom how the update to unity 6 broke SL's cassie mixer so badly that ducking applies per channel

[magic gate]

My dad played Stalker every evening after work when I was 3-4 years old. A year ago, I bought him an Xbox so he could play Stalker 2

[celest thorn]

how is it?

[magic gate]

He is a big fan of this game and has played each part several times

[celest thorn]

i know its like a tarkov but with story

i like tarkov / extraction shooters and with story??? like my dream

[magic gate]

Idk about tarkov

[celest thorn]

because tarkov was a mod for Stalker

[magic gate]

Stalker is a good game with a great atmosphere

[celest thorn]

i was thinking about trying stalker 2

[magic gate]

You should try it NOW

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[celest thorn]

hmm im gonna try it

then

after 120 hours with xenoblade

finally a shooter

lol

[magic gate]

[celest thorn]

last one i played was dying light 3

that was like mid xenoblade

i've played the second one and then stopped and played dying light 3 and then all of the others

[magic gate]

I don't really like this type of game, I'm more into horror or shooters

[celest thorn]

you know what scares me the most

i left and refunded

Silent Hill 2 remake

because i found a fucking giant coackroach

[magic gate]

[celest thorn]

into a library

im not touching that game ever again

like metro either

you cannot tell me a full mission is just full of giant spiders

like

i geniunly leave there the game

[magic gate]

I just bought slender the arival

[celest thorn]

wtf is this

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2786660/Barbie_Horse_Trails/

Steam

Barbie™ Horse Trails

Team up with Ken’s aunt, Lady Carson, and the Park Rangers to give the already amazing park a fresh new look, turning it into a space for everyone to enjoy! Hop on your horse and gallop through fields of wildflowers, explore lush forests, climb breathtaking mountains, or take a relaxing stroll by a sparkling lake.…

Price

$39.99

▶ Play video

why is it reccomended to me???

like hello steam???

[magic gate]

I want to play again because there was a big anniversary update.

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[bright vine]

hye guys

am i doing something wrong

[celest thorn]

hiiii

[celest thorn]

idk

[magic gate]

Yes

[bright vine]

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.IsAllowed = false;
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;

            foreach (Player listener in Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers))
            {
                if (!listener.IsAlive)
                {
                    continue;
                }
                if (listener.Team == Team.SCPs) listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
            }
        }

[celest thorn]

Player.ReadyList

[bright vine]

context: im trying to make a human speak in scp vc as well

but

[celest thorn]

instead of Player.GetAll

[bright vine]

ReadyList cant be used like a method

[celest thorn]

why would you want to do that

like you need to have authenticated player

those are authenticated

[bright vine]

someone sent their code

[bright vine]

here

[celest thorn]

your is totally different

[bright vine]

what am i even doing wrong

[celest thorn]

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.IsAllowed = false;
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;
            foreach (Player listener in Player.ReadyList)
            {
                if (!listener.IsAlive || !listener.IsSCP) 
                    continue;
                if (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole) continue;
                if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) is VoiceChatChannel.None)
                 continue;

               listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
            }
        }

like this is with the correct code like the guy sent you

[bright vine]

why did you remove ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;

[celest thorn]

because if you send the packet

[bright vine]

i need that for the vc icon

[celest thorn]

oh ok then yea that explains why

[bright vine]

would it actually be sent to everyone

i dont think it would go liek that right? it only sends where i want them to

[celest thorn]

this one sends it to all of the people in the server that can listen to voices

[bright vine]

even though im doing this listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);?

oh

Oh your code

[celest thorn]

this is the same that the guy provided you with

and idk if its fine

i've never done this thing

but honestly

you should do

[bright vine]

        public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
        {
            ev.IsAllowed = false;
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;

            foreach (Player listener in Player.ReadyList)
            {
                if (!listener.IsAlive) continue;
                if (listener.Team == Team.SCPs) listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
                else if (active035.ContainsKey(listener)) listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
            }
        }```

im going insane

[upper vapor]

metro is cool

[bright vine]

i dont see the scp talking 💔

[celest thorn]

        foreach (ReferenceHub referenceHub in ReferenceHub.AllHubs)
        {
            if (referenceHub.roleManager.CurrentRole is SpectatorRole && !msg.Speaker.IsSpectatedBy(referenceHub))
                continue;
                
            if (referenceHub.roleManager.CurrentRole is not IVoiceRole voiceRole2)
                continue;
            
            if (Vector3.Distance(msg.Speaker.transform.position, referenceHub.transform.position) >= ScpProximityChatModule.PluginConfig.MaxProximityDistance)
                continue;

            if (voiceRole2.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(msg.Speaker, VoiceChatChannel.Proximity) is VoiceChatChannel.None)
                continue;
            
            msg.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.Proximity;
            referenceHub.connectionToClient.Send(msg);
        }

Credits to Jesus (https://github.com/Jesus-QC/ScpProximityChat/blob/master/ScpProximityChatExiled/Features/ScpProximityChatHandler.cs)
Something like that

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connectionToClient

Hm.

[celest thorn]

this is for exiled

but its the same exact

and on LabAPI its called Connection

not connectionToClient

[upper vapor]

you don't need allat

[bright vine]

i mean

labapi has also ConnectionToClient

[upper vapor]

i really don't know why they needed to add 2 properties

[celest thorn]

why it seems fine

[bright vine]

in this case, whats happening:
all humans can talk to scps, but scps cant talk back to humans for some reason

this isnt even what i want so not sure whats gonig on LOL

[upper vapor]

that's not what they want

[bright vine]

oh yeah i dont want a proixmity chat so i dont need that

proximity*

[celest thorn]

oh wait

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i want a global chat like scps

[celest thorn]

he wants the opposite??

idk im confused

like what you want SCP being able to talk to voice chat

[bright vine]

so my goal:

i want a certain human and scps be able to talk to each other

[celest thorn]

oh then

[bright vine]

scpChat doesnt work sadly, so im using RoundSummary instead

[celest thorn]

event

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which has basically the same style as scpchat

i could like

[celest thorn]

i don't see anything wrong with the one i sent and with yours yes because you aren't validating it

[bright vine]

replace all scp vc with roundsummary altogether

no i think i see the issue

           ev.IsAllowed = false;
            ev.Message.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.RoundSummary;

maybe this is the issue

[celest thorn]

no

[bright vine]

im setting the channel first

weird then

[celest thorn]

wait