plugins-dev-chat

[upper vapor]

Build a metro line just for yourself

[celest thorn]

fr

• uni is in one of the worst area so i go to my uncles that they are fucking schizos and they live 1h distant by walking

[upper vapor]

Welcome on board. This is metro line Express 0 to idfkwhat university. Doors will open on the left.

[celest thorn]

every day i come back i just work on SL and study for uni

and then the morning i clean home

like there's not a day where i really take time or do something for myself

[upper vapor]

And he smells of cigarettes again (the bell has just rung recently)

[upper vapor]

Make dinner run

Make some time

Less time for sl

[celest thorn]

btw people who go to comp science are like weird

[upper vapor]

More time for yourself

[upper vapor]

At slejm

[celest thorn]

nah i geniunly don't care

[restive turret]

[celest thorn]

bro why tf people smell bad asf, and they are fucking idiots or arch fucking fat loosers

like i geniunly don't understand

[upper vapor]

Xddd

Showering is expensive

(Takes 10 minutes)

[celest thorn]

YES

[upper vapor]

And water

They're afraid of water

Only monster energy

[celest thorn]

i geniunly don't know if this guy sits next to me

to smell my hairs

or what

because he gets always near me

and sniff

like bro

[upper vapor]

Give them a sample

[celest thorn]

this is weird asf

[upper vapor]

I got asked for that on the train, like how do I have such long hair

[celest thorn]

i know my shampoo smells like vanilla and its girly (all glitters :3)

[restive turret]

All my parents smoke and many of my friends too, so I just ignore it

[upper vapor]

Okay but it's like

A strong stench

Annoying af

[celest thorn]

both

[restive turret]

Ye every cigarette is different

[celest thorn]

the guy next to me stench strong

and the guy next to me usually stench annoying

[upper vapor]

Wtf

[celest thorn]

like i geniunly don't know why people don't like showers

[upper vapor]

Laziness

[celest thorn]

first days i was crying so badly in the car because it was unbearable to stay in there

[upper vapor]

Bear

Get it

Xd

[celest thorn]

like i understand im more fem than 99% of the males and i just take care alot about my odor and just be more fem

i go out of my way to smell good

[restive turret]

Well I sweat pretty much every time

[celest thorn]

like something i always got compliments is my hairs and how clean i am

geniunly in those classes the only one who don't smell are the girls

and me

[upper vapor]

Same

That's how we spawned

[celest thorn]

i just don't sweat alot

[upper vapor]

I'm not gonna use 100000 sprays of deodorant a day

[upper vapor]

Good for you then

[celest thorn]

honestly i understand that

but its not like a class pack of 120 people

you smell so bad

and the others too

like i geniunly escaped in high school from a guy that smelled so bad

to be now in a class full of people that smell bad

[celest thorn]

we talked to the guy he just said "i take showers daily" but he always showed up with the same clothes every day for a week

[upper vapor]

😭 😭

[celest thorn]

and went to the gym with those

[upper vapor]

Of my God....

[restive turret]

Every time i power on any pc i start sweating more then usual

[upper vapor]

At least rotate them a bit

[celest thorn]

i wash them and then put them back

[upper vapor]

There's also this thing called a

https://tenor.com/view/lave-lingue-wash-machine-machine-a-laver-destroying-gif-10826328646164153001

[celest thorn]

TRUE

AHAHHAHAHA

[upper vapor]

Lmao

Unity sweat markiplier: 1000x

[celest thorn]

but for what we understood by his bestfriend (a girl), she said that her parents too smell alot

[celest thorn]

nah i sweat alot in vr

[upper vapor]

Wouldn't be a problem if people didn't exist

[restive turret]

Also if something is wrong i rage, which is extra top on that

[celest thorn]

^^^^^^^

[celest thorn]

I geniunly get angry only if someone is messing up and all of my brain prediction are like saying "We are fucked"

i know i sound schizo

but i try to prendict convos or anything

before it happens

and 80% of the time it happens

[upper vapor]

No option to turn off autocomplete

[celest thorn]

bro im studying i get anxious and start studying something else

because i know maybe that question will be there

or how it will be phrased

or the same happens i try to think that maybe people are thinking

and this geniunly messes me up alot sometimes

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Huh

[upper vapor]

Don't think (about what people think)

[restive turret]

I just post

[upper vapor]

Xd

do you PATCH?

[upper vapor]

Or PUT?

[celest thorn]

i should do an harmony patch in the section of the brain that does that

[upper vapor]

Real so real

Just don't mess up the local index

[celest thorn]

booboogaga

sorry messed up

btw i geniunly thought i was weird in my life

but maybe

i finally understood im not this weird

[restive turret]

No u r

[celest thorn]

I am?

[restive turret]

Are you?

[celest thorn]

idk some people do say im weird

others don't

but geniunly i don't think im that weird as much as those guys

[restive turret]

I don't really care what other people think about me that much

[icy knoll]

legit only gray names in this channel

[celest thorn]

go away pink name

[upper vapor]

I'm lazy to equip a color role

[celest thorn]

i just didn't unlock it yet

[upper vapor]

And yeah this chat is pretty grim

[icy knoll]

just because im unique... wowwwww

[celest thorn]

else i was going to get purple (:3)

ngl purple is the best color

[upper vapor]

You must obey the laws of society and be like everyone else!!1!1!

[celest thorn]

become gray like us

sad and depressed developers

[upper vapor]

Become gay like us

(She is gay)

[restive turret]

But I'm a princess

[icy knoll]

i am very sad and depressed rn

[icy knoll]

im legit a raging lesbian

[upper vapor]

You can still be gay

[celest thorn]

Sorry to hear

[celest thorn]

i wanna be a princess too :3

[icy knoll]

this fuckass designer for work is making my life hell

[celest thorn]

wtf is that

[upper vapor]

Alexa, why is the fire alarm going off

[celest thorn]

bro new variant?

[restive turret]

Dont

[upper vapor]

Very leviathan

Lydia

Lesbian

[celest thorn]

idk what the fuck are you guys saying

let me search it up

[upper vapor]

How is this not in the dictionary

[upper vapor]

Very lesbian

Very gay

[celest thorn]

Oh

those types

[upper vapor]

Xd

[celest thorn]

...

[upper vapor]

😭 😭 😭

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

Thats nameless

[upper vapor]

Raging princess

[celest thorn]

i geniunly am nice

[celest thorn]

Awww

[upper vapor]

"Transporting a voice channel" is what I read

[restive turret]

What design work

[celest thorn]

bro stop with sl

go away

don't touch this game

[icy knoll]

web design

[upper vapor]

Can we kill figma

[celest thorn]

i hate web design

[restive turret]

Ough, ye

[celest thorn]

its just boring

im sorry but im not built to design websites

[icy knoll]

legit ive practically had to remake this whole website from scratch because this guy just decided on a random monday to remake the whole app

[upper vapor]

Get good at css

[restive turret]

I dont really like working on web stuff and any design

[upper vapor]

How did management allow that

[celest thorn]

design like clothes is something i really like especially fem clothes

[icy knoll]

they paid for it

[celest thorn]

is where i style alot

[upper vapor]

Domain design in .NET

[upper vapor]

What the fucky

[restive turret]

I design how my funeral will look

That's all I can design

[celest thorn]

yea soon brother, soon

hope its soon enough

for me and you

[icy knoll]

i love vsc snippets

[upper vapor]

Peak

Though

[celest thorn]

i love working on SL

[upper vapor]

If you die, you can't attend bro's funeral

[celest thorn]

true

[celest thorn]

thats why if i ever kms i will do videos for everyone funeral

lol

[celest thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016373178412576790/1143525962194096228/image0.gif

[restive turret]

Please watch supernatural its great

[celest thorn]

?

[restive turret]

?

[upper vapor]

What

[celest thorn]

nah bro

[upper vapor]

Will you do that on Cameo?

[celest thorn]

wtf is this

[celest thorn]

bro i wanted to buy cameo

from cupcake lord to just shit on someone

[upper vapor]

The company???

[restive turret]

??

[celest thorn]

i was watching the series and story resumed

its really strange

[celest thorn]

no buy a cameo from cupcake lord

everyone knows he was there to buy a cupcake

[restive turret]

What series and what story

[upper vapor]

Huh

[celest thorn]

.

[restive turret]

Oh

Ye they restarted if after S6

[upper vapor]

I'm restarted

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9knYZpkpVqo

this guy ^

has cameo

[upper vapor]

I know

[upper vapor]

WHAT

[celest thorn]

and the shit he says its crazy funny

bro

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-edp-huh-what-shocked-wow-gif-17151607

[celest thorn]

you can BUY BIRTHDAY GIFT

[upper vapor]

Ah hell nawh

Let's not let Lucid loose upon us

[celest thorn]

bro imagine going to a birthday party ands your gift is that

i would honestly laugh

it just like you are living in another dimension

lol

[tepid sluice]

this year i want some new birthday gifts

:3

[celest thorn]

you want the edp445 cameo?

[tepid sluice]

whats that

[slender lynx]

edp445 rust cameo:

[tepid sluice]

no

[upper vapor]

Trying to meet a certain cupcake

What

[slender lynx]

ai aint takin over the world with this one

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9knYZpkpVqo

[upper vapor]

Did you ask deepseek

[celest thorn]

here's the video

bro wanted to meet a cupcake that wasn't fully baked

[upper vapor]

What 😭 😭

[slender lynx]

i would post the rust one but id get banned rather fast

[tepid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-meow-are-you-kidding-me-are-you-kitten-me-right-meow-seriously-gif-27226081

[celest thorn]

i know

we need to do one too for sl

lol

i swear im gonna buy it

40 BUCKS????

BRO

[upper vapor]

Please don't include SL employee names

[celest thorn]

lol

to lucid

or better to hubert

lol

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/caae339u.png

the comments

are something else

[tepid sluice]

why lucid

[slender lynx]

you just got beamed by gne

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHHAHHAA

[slender lynx]

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/e4mwfdg6.png

[slender lynx]

the guy does kids birthday wishes too btw

[upper vapor]

I would like to opt out of life

[restive turret]

Can't

[celest thorn]

trye

[restive turret]

You have work to do

[celest thorn]

Azali makes banger songs

[upper vapor]

Yeah I'd have to pay years worth of taxes before canceling (Adobe reference)

[upper vapor]

Xd

[tepid sluice]

D:D

[cyan crown]

Dead chat :(

[true cedar]

meow

[cyan crown]

I managed to use spacewar app id for my game and now steam features like player id 64 and username are added

Ignore spelling mistakes i was running short on time and i had to go :"(

[crimson dune]

thats hot

[true cedar]

offical

[cyan crown]

Legecay lmao

Tomorrow i'll work on admin panel 2.0.0

Not 3.0.0 since that version is currently insane to make

I had a lot of performance issues with light sources and its flickering a lot its probably bc im using forward and not forward+ along side my Occlusion Culling not being that good (code wise/logic)

[teal junco]

so the hitbox for your player info is not based on model?

or is that just a placeholder

[cyan crown]

I used a sphere collider

I'll use meshes soon

Since its better imo

[grand flower]

we love lua(u)

[grand flower]

LogLuauVM: [ServerVM] Hello, World! pog

const bool bSuccess = LuauState->RunString("print('Hello, World!')");

[restive turret]

Nice

[celest thorn]

i do wonder if you could import ulua in sl and do a kinda of cool system with it

to do scripting with plugin

like enable the user to script with your plugin and sl

[restive turret]

I think TayTay did it

[grand flower]

yeah you could, but like

not many uses for it in SL

in my scenario it'll be the full modding framework of my game so I'm getting it up and ready first

[celest thorn]

thats so cool

[grand flower]

I want client & server scripting

and I want my game's base modes to be mods themselves

that way if I can do it via modding, modders can too (forces me to expose everything necessary & make a cool API for modders since I'll be one on my own game)

[celest thorn]

what is even the game about?

i've never seen this crazy amount of modding

only gmod

really

[grand flower]

Don't wanna talk too much about the game (yet)

but it will have levels of modding similar to Garry's Mod

LogLuauVM: Error: :1: Expected ')' (to close '(' at column 6), got '!'

hell yeah got errors working too

[pulsar locust]

The entirety of vintage story's core part is a mod

You can disable vintage story in vintage story

[celest thorn]

idk

im not a player of that game

[grand flower]

I like the idea of making most of the game as a mod

at least the base gamemodes I'll handle

players will be able to make their own

[celest thorn]

gmod.

[grand flower]

pretty much

although I'll be more oriented towards a singular theme

[celest thorn]

ngl rn im having problems making a map

like i need to make a map only knife

but idk a theme

or anything

i just need to fit 10 teams

[upper vapor]

@spare zodiac

[celest thorn]

That happens to me everyday

[icy knoll]

never had that before

[royal mica]

I fucking hate that

I fucking hat LocalAdmin eating the commands

it is making me insane

[celest thorn]

Lol

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1412768079972139118/attachment.gif

[restive turret]

yknow what making me insance

unity problems

[royal mica]

unity problems

[upper pike]

What does PanicDuration mean for SCP-2176

Why is the Ghostlight panicking?

[spare zodiac]

this is the only message in this whole discord server speaking about it

I'm going to guess it's for 079 disconnect time

[celest thorn]

nope

i think its something to do with the client

[upper pike]

Can't be

[celest thorn]

because in the server

doesn't exist anything

[upper pike]

Can't find any uses in the class

[hearty shard]

cuz constant

[upper pike]

And its used to be a private field

[hearty shard]

constants get compiled to their value

it doesnt act as a field

[upper pike]

I dunno what to actually call it because its not really a variable if it doesn't change

[spare zodiac]

you can't patch it though :(

[hearty shard]

its a constant

but yea

doesnt appear to be used

[spare zodiac]

maybe was used in different version

or NW devs said le funi leave in for stupido devs think this is important

[celest thorn]

idk but we will never know

[unique crane]

Should be connected to the green liquid scp

[hearty shard]

afaik its private

and theres no usage of 5f in the class

well it might be client only though...

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

[bright vine]

GUYS

HOW DO YOU VIEW OTHER PLUGINS' CODE

I LEARN BEST FROM EXAMPLES

[cyan crown]

#1336031121699377213

[bright vine]

i

[static meteor]

Github or decompiling it

[bright vine]

thank you Baguetter

Lets follow by the example Jovis

Jovix

[pallid mason]

Wtf? Why grenade is not freeze on position? (sorry for this video format)

[cyan crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943934482724028516/1167690738474168360/106_had_enough.gif

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/pyra-xenoblade.gif

[slow grotto]

Janitor's going postal today

[cyan crown]

i mean if you think about it Janitor is a foundation member and not a prisoner

so yeah you will have this dynamic of scientist and janitors trying to get you killed when you play as a class-d

[upper vapor]

what is happening in this code 😭

[royal mica]

There a lot of questions there

[slow grotto]

https://github.com/SiteFunnyArea/CustomItems/blob/main/CustomItems-SFA/Items/Grenades/C4Charge.cs
This looks like it was supposed to have a sticky feature but was never implemented. Not a good sign for it being easy to implement.

[plush walrus]

Its a fork (more or less) of the abandoned Exiled "Custom Items" plugin (not to be confused with Exiled.CustomItems which is the api to make custom items) where it had its sticky feature removed a while ago

As for why it doesnt stick, iirc IsKinematic broke in the last update

So it sticks server side, but not on the client side

[pallid mason]

I can also implement it with exiled, but im implementing it on lapi, so idk why it doesn't work

[pallid mason]

sadly

[plush walrus]

I made an attempt a bit ago with my Exiled plugin where it sticks sometimes and I really dont know how or why it does or doesnt

[celest thorn]

i have a code that always works

[slow grotto]

Just something I found with the bounce, I found sometimes OnCollisionEnter is fired, but other times OnTriggerEnter is fired instead. However that was when I tried it Years ago

[plush walrus]

Showoff

[celest thorn]

you want it?

idc

its old

[plush walrus]

Sure

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244510487144697968/1316710350854553631/watermark.gif

[celest thorn]

    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(CollisionDetectionPickup), nameof(CollisionDetectionPickup.OnCollisionEnter))]
    internal class StickyGrenade
    {
        private static void Prefix(EffectGrenade __instance)
        {
            if (C4Charge.Instance is null) return;
            if (C4Charge.PlacedCharges.ContainsKey(Pickup.Get(__instance)))
            {
                __instance.gameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody>().isKinematic = true;
            }
        }
    }

[plush walrus]

Ah, thanks

[celest thorn]

hope it helps :3

[plush walrus]

Cheers

I never really messed around with Harmony Patching

[celest thorn]

i love harmony

[plush walrus]

Its a great thing, I just never gotten around to trying it out and stuff haha

[celest thorn]

idk its useful alot especially in unity modding

[spare zodiac]

what video format did you use for this video

my mobile is telling me it cannot be played

[plush walrus]

MP4
HEVC Codec

[spare zodiac]

shall I learn java to make videoplayer for android?

[royal mica]

Kotlin

[plush walrus]

Assembly

[upper vapor]

i (copilot) just wrote this

[pallid mason]

nice

[frail zinc]

💀

[royal mica]

The fuck is this

wait I see

fucking

[tepid sluice]

good job copilot

[upper vapor]

flags

but with a record

[spare zodiac]

Wtf is this

[upper vapor]

using System.Text.Json.Serialization;
using RecipeExtractor.Converters;
using Scp914;

namespace RecipeExtractor;

[JsonConverter(typeof(KnobSettingListConverter))]
public sealed record KnobSettingList(bool Rough, bool Coarse, bool OneToOne, bool Fine, bool VeryFine)
{

    public static implicit operator KnobSettingList(Scp914KnobSetting setting) => setting switch
    {
        Scp914KnobSetting.Rough => new KnobSettingList(true, false, false, false, false),
        Scp914KnobSetting.Coarse => new KnobSettingList(false, true, false, false, false),
        Scp914KnobSetting.OneToOne => new KnobSettingList(false, false, true, false, false),
        Scp914KnobSetting.Fine => new KnobSettingList(false, false, false, true, false),
        Scp914KnobSetting.VeryFine => new KnobSettingList(false, false, false, false, true),
        _ => new KnobSettingList(false, false, false, false, false)
    };

    public static implicit operator KnobSettingList(Scp914KnobSetting[] settings) => new(
        settings.Contains(Scp914KnobSetting.Rough),
        settings.Contains(Scp914KnobSetting.Coarse),
        settings.Contains(Scp914KnobSetting.OneToOne),
        settings.Contains(Scp914KnobSetting.Fine),
        settings.Contains(Scp914KnobSetting.VeryFine)
    );

    public override string ToString() => this switch
    {
        (true, false, false, false, false) => "Rough",
        (false, true, false, false, false) => "Coarse",
        (false, false, true, false, false) => "1:1",
        (false, false, false, true, false) => "Fine",
        (false, false, false, false, true) => "Very Fine",
        (true, true, false, false, false) => "Rough,Coarse",
        (true, false, true, false, false) => "Rough,1:1",
        (true, false, false, true, false) => "Rough,Fine",
        (true, false, false, false, true) => "Rough,Very Fine",
        (false, true, true, false, false) => "Coarse,1:1",
        (false, true, false, true, false) => "Coarse,Fine",
        (false, true, false, false, true) => "Coarse,Very Fine",
        (false, false, true, true, false) => "1:1,Fine",
        (false, false, true, false, true) => "1:1,Very Fine",
        (false, false, false, true, true) => "Fine,Very Fine",
        (true, true, true, false, false) => "Rough,Coarse,1:1",
        (true, true, false, true, false) => "Rough,Coarse,Fine",
        (true, true, false, false, true) => "Rough,Coarse,Very Fine",
        (true, false, true, true, false) => "Rough,1:1,Fine",
        (true, false, true, false, true) => "Rough,1:1,Very Fine",
        (true, false, false, true, true) => "Rough,Fine,Very Fine",
        (false, true, true, true, false) => "Coarse,1:1,Fine",
        (false, true, true, false, true) => "Coarse,1:1,Very Fine",
        (false, true, false, true, true) => "Coarse,Fine,Very Fine",
        (false, false, true, true, true) => "1:1,Fine,Very Fine",
        (true, true, true, true, false) => "Rough,Coarse,1:1,Fine",
        (true, true, true, false, true) => "Rough,Coarse,1:1,Very Fine",
        (true, true, false, true, true) => "Rough,Coarse,Fine,Very Fine",
        (true, false, true, true, true) => "Rough,1:1,Fine,Very Fine",
        (false, true, true, true, true) => "Coarse,1:1,Fine,Very Fine",
        (true, true, true, true, true) => "Rough,Coarse,1:1,Fine,Very Fine",
        _ => ""
    };

}

here

[spare zodiac]

.HasFlag()

[upper vapor]

no

i needed it for serialization

but found a better approach

[spare zodiac]

...

[royal mica]

well ofc

[upper vapor]

new approach

[spare zodiac]

couldn't you use normal enum?

[upper vapor]

no because i need multiple knob settings at once sometimes

[tepid sluice]

Flags

wtf

[true cedar]

what the fuck

[upper vapor]

kek

[spare zodiac]

if Rough == true you add to some string builder "Rough"

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

[true cedar]

^

[upper vapor]

i don't need to implement it manually

[spare zodiac]

a person who thinks all the time

[upper vapor]

but string builders are expensive :((

[spare zodiac]

why do you need so much optimisation

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/clones-animated-clone-wars-ready-star-wars-gif-5552364

[grand flower]

If this is SL, string builders are gonna be the least of your worries

[spare zodiac]

oh wait we are adding no waypoints 2026 to names?

lemme join

[grand flower]

I started it

Mostly because I gave NW the entire recipe to getting rid of waypoints

Albeit unlikely they'll follow through

[spare zodiac]

alr

[upper vapor]

i just didn't want to use strinbuilder tbh

and this was funny

pattern matching i love

CAN THE HOME KEY WORK IN THIS FUCKING APP

[grand flower]

You're laughing, AI wrote the most unreadable garbage and you're laughing

[spare zodiac]

I read something like only idiot loves complexity or smth

[grand flower]

Not really true

Keep it simple when possible yes, but that piece of code is going to be complex to debug

Since it's unreadable

I'd rather have complex stuff, but at least commented well so it's still readable and understandable by other people

[spare zodiac]

why not simplify?

[true cedar]

you have a switch statement with like 25 arms

[grand flower]

Not always possible

And sometimes simplifying too much ends up making it harder to read

[spare zodiac]

then yeah go with the most simple one possible

but not make something very easy complex

right?

[grand flower]

I'm fine with that as long as it's not to the detriment of other things, like performance (when applicable) or ease of use for developers

Yeah if it's simple it's simple

[upper vapor]

if only the compiler knew how to make an int out of that and optimize it a shit ton

[grand flower]

Like you don't need to overengineer simple stuff

[spare zodiac]

I'm saying this, but still overengineering myself so many stuff

[upper vapor]

implicit operators khm

[grand flower]

It's a skill you learn along the way

[spare zodiac]

tbh that makes it simpler

[unique crane]

what the fu

[spare zodiac]

but no need for those when you have extensions

[upper vapor]

you added 2 local variables just because implicit operators

[grand flower]

Implicit operators might make it "simpler" for the developer but it's more mental power used to follow it

[upper vapor]

but finally

extension members

[upper vapor]

you have yet to see that code saskyc wrote with them

[grand flower]

hit me

I'm a code reviewer at work you can't scare me

[upper vapor]

he streamed it at some point i think

[grand flower]

[upper vapor]

so i don't have it

[spare zodiac]

I don't ||want to|| remember

[grand flower]

another thing to keep in mind is like, you can make it simple for developers to use your functions, but have the complexity hidden inside them

that's fine

not everything needs to be simple

[spare zodiac]

I sent it here at some point

@unique crane wait until you see my documentation I'm creating

[grand flower]

i.e. this just runs some Luau code you pass it (RunString("print('Hello, World!')")). Simple to use, complex inside.

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-4243488579067419276

[upper vapor]

yeah

[grand flower]

im gonna cleanup that function anyway

mostly had lots inside for debugging

but I'll want something better to handle Luau errors

since I'll want to show them in-game too and all

this is so much fun btw

interacting with another language within Unreal

[spare zodiac]

what should good documentation have?

[grand flower]

I have a good example, sec

[spare zodiac]

documentation.exe

[grand flower]

that's the extent I go for documentation, at all times

And this is code nobody's gonna touch in a looong time

but I do the same thing at work with a large team and thousands of source files

[restive turret]

IF MY ENGINE WOULDNT FUCKING KILL ITSELF

[grand flower]

wdym

[restive turret]

I stuck in this stage forever

[spare zodiac]

task manager

[grand flower]

Unity be like

[spare zodiac]

let it corrupt

[restive turret]

ok and like I killed , cleaned but still

[cyan crown]

😂

[grand flower]

switch to Unreal

Thank me later

[restive turret]

I switching to no engine

[cyan crown]

noob engine

[restive turret]

that means I do not gonna make game

[upper vapor]

what do you think about this

[grand flower]

ehhhh

a little hard to understand

[grand flower]

what's Recipe look like

[upper vapor]

hehe

i tricked you

[true cedar]

i fucking hate looking at cpp

what an ugly language

[grand flower]

Probably cleaner code than a lot of plugins

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-spongebob-rainbow-gif-15431155

kinda figured you did something like that heh

[upper vapor]

it's crazy syntax ik

but i had to try it

[grand flower]

death

[unique crane]

):

[celest thorn]

david i have a question

[unique crane]

hm?

[celest thorn]

is this true?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330066675713970216/1330096787427557376/ezgif-1-5d9d8c8e6b_online-video-cutter.com.gif

i love alex for giving it to me

[grand flower]

i don't work at NW and SL makes me drink

[unique crane]

Mmm

I won rum at last shooting competition

so maybe

[celest thorn]

what??? you mean gtag tourney?

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[unique crane]

No I mean sniper competition XD

[upper vapor]

make sure to drink water, y'all

[unique crane]

in czech republic

[celest thorn]

so web developing makes you drink?

[celest thorn]

OH lol

irl one

[unique crane]

ye

[upper vapor]

shooting CSG breakers competition

[magic gate]

Everything makes me drink

[upper vapor]

you drink to forget that you drink

[celest thorn]

even not drinking?

[magic gate]

Damn, I have a meme for that, but it’s in Ukrainian

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-oorah-marine-twerk-army-gif-22931251

[royal mica]

any kind of developing makes you drink

PHP makes you take cocaine

[grand flower]

I love C++

[true cedar]

i

i could probably write several books on why i fucking hate cpp

[slate flume]

.

[grand flower]

don't use is null with unity stuff

bypasses lifetime checks

[slate flume]

Can I add an implicit operator as an extension member to a class

I don't think I'll ever actually have to do it

But it sounds dope

[grand flower]

you can add operators

dunno about implicit

[upper vapor]

unity has that already

if you wanted to add it to unity objects

[slate flume]

So it's possible

Dope

[upper vapor]

if (component)

=

if (component != null)

[slate flume]

Yeah I know

I just didn't know they used extension members for that

[upper vapor]

no..?

there are no extension members in default unity

[slate flume]

Then why did you bring up the fact that unity has implicit operators 🤦🏼‍♂️ I already know that

I'm asking an unrelated question

[slate flume]

[upper vapor]

they just define implicit operators in the class for that

[slate flume]

Yes I know

[spare zodiac]

of course ma friend

[upper vapor]

didn't you want to add a lifetime extension member operator?

[slate flume]

No lmao

[upper vapor]

okay

[slate flume]

Those already exist I have no reason to add them

I'm just curious if it's possible to add implicit operators using the new C# 14.0 extension shit

[upper vapor]

let's see

sharplab.io doesn't like me

nope :(

[slate flume]

Aw :(

Also

[spare zodiac]

operators are not

[slate flume]

What the hell

[upper vapor]

Extension declarations can include only methods or properties

[spare zodiac]

you can make implicit loop though

[slate flume]

I'm on the preview version and I am not able to fuckin' use the new extension shit

I'm gonna crash out

[spare zodiac]

download newest rider

[slate flume]

Fire

[upper vapor]

works for me on 2025.2.3

[slate flume]

I hate that rider doesn't prompt me for new updates

[upper vapor]

should be here

yellow circle

[slate flume]

Well too late cause I already am manually installing the new version lol

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-are-you-kidding-me-are-you-kitten-me-marshmallow-cat-gif-3938780203734828704

[spare zodiac]

you will have to open it with jetbrains toolbox if the old rider keeps opening

[slate flume]

It prompted me to uninstall the old version and I said yes

[spare zodiac]

I still have old version and new as 2 seperate applications

[slate flume]

Why

[spare zodiac]

I could change that fact

[spare zodiac]

great question

I don't have answers

[upper vapor]

so you waste less space on the drive

[slate flume]

Holy shit it worked you guys are so smart

[hearty shard]

im the best

[slate flume]

Who would've thought that updating my things would cause them to update

[hearty shard]

I totally helped

[slate flume]

EVE was here too

[hearty shard]

see someone gets it

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-gif-24986826

[grand flower]

for SL we just have an extension method IsValid() for Player

use it everywhere

[slate flume]

Is it essentially just checking if the player actually exists

[grand flower]

checks if Player wrapper isn't null, then checks if the underlying gameobject is valid

iirc

no

hub

    /// <summary>
    /// Returns true if the player is valid, false if it was destroyed.
    /// </summary>
    /// <param name="player">The player to check for validity.</param>
    public static bool IsValid([CanBeNull] this Player player)
    {
        return player != null && player.ReferenceHub;
    }

[celest thorn]

why...

[grand flower]

coroutines

mostly

[slate flume]

I wish we didn't have to use .net 4.8

[static meteor]

Unity moment

[slate flume]

I have to use the dynamic keyword

To make generic functions

When I wanna just use INumber

[restive turret]

F

[grand flower]

wut

what are you trying to do

[slate flume]

public static IEnumerable<T> CumulativeSum<T>(this IEnumerable<T> numbers) where T : struct
{
  dynamic sum = default(T);
  foreach (dynamic number in numbers)
  {
    sum += number;
    yield return (T)sum;
  }
}

I wanted an extension method for IEnumerables that lets me do .CumulativeSum() on them to get a cumulative sum

I want it to work for doubles, decimals, floats, ...

And I don't want to define all of them manually

So

dynamic

[grand flower]

Between defining them manually and using dynamic, you should define them manually

dynamic is expensive as fuck

[slate flume]

I hate that

[grand flower]

Using it in a game dev context (or hell, any really) is bad

[slate flume]

I will not bend to the will of the Unity overlords

[grand flower]

I mean you're free to write bad code I'm just letting you know you're making a mistake heh

[slate flume]

It's a difference of like

.05 ms

I'm not gonna worry about it lmao

[grand flower]

did you profile it

[slate flume]

I can try if you want me to lol

[grand flower]

i'm just saying, baaaaaad idea

[slate flume]

You worry too much

dynamic exists in C# for a reason

[grand flower]

I'm not worried, it's just something I wouldn't consider good, using dynamic out of (technically) laziness isn't really a good idea

[slate flume]

It's cleaner

[grand flower]

Just because it exists doesn't means it's good

[slate flume]

It's more maintainable because if I want to make any changes I don't have to edit 50 different methods

I could make separate methods for float decimal double byte ushort short uint int ...

But that sucks big ass

[unique crane]

Why dynamic

You have the generic type

???

[slate flume]

Doesn't work

[restive turret]

You cannot do += in generic

[unique crane]

oh hm

Also why your doing

this method?

You have linq

[static meteor]

object

[slate flume]

?

No

[grand flower]

Could also just make two methods, you don't need one per numeric type

[slate flume]

Elaborate

[grand flower]

i.e. one for double (everything is implicitly convertible to double) and one for decimal (the only exception)

[restive turret]

Because net4< didn't have INumber

[grand flower]

You won't have precision loss if you pass in integers afaik

[unique crane]

Erm yes

list.Sum()

[restive turret]

Finally my time to shine with decimal :trol

[unique crane]

Call the IEnumerable<int> sum method

[slate flume]

That's not a cumulative sum lmao

That's a sum

[grand flower]

or ignore decimal because nothing uses decimal anyway

[slate flume]

Big difference

[restive turret]

:(

[unique crane]

Oh cumulative sum

[restive turret]

But yes, double is easily better

[slate flume]

I mean

[restive turret]

same size as long

[slate flume]

You guys have a fair point with double/decimal

I think?

Idk I'm not an expert

[restive turret]

Yes

[unique crane]

Then just do it for the data type you need it for?

[restive turret]

can even convert to and back

[slate flume]

I have multiple data types

[unique crane]

which ones

You can most likely go away with just long and double

[slate flume]

Idk I'd have to find all usages

[unique crane]

and then cast it back

Or just int and double

[slate flume]

I don't think I actually use decimals anywhere

[unique crane]

Idk where in SL you would use long

Well then

Do you use longs?

[slate flume]

Not that I can recall

[restive turret]

My nose is long

[unique crane]

Then make the method for int

[restive turret]

Nvm it's ulong

[unique crane]

and it covers that + all smaller sizes

[slate flume]

There's gotta be a better way to do it than repeating the same method

I hate having repetitive methods

[unique crane]

Well there is no common interface for adding things afaik

[unique crane]

Repeating?

Do it once

[restive turret]

Not in older .net ye

[slate flume]

One int method wouldn't work

[unique crane]

Why not?

You said you dont use decimals

[slate flume]

Because I pass in floats and doubles

Lmao

I don't use decimal

[restive turret]

choose the big one and cast back

[unique crane]

By decimals we are talking decimal numbers xd

Yea

make it for decimal then

2 methods

[grand flower]

working on it sec

[restive turret]

No reason for decimal that's 16 bytes

[slate flume]

I just don't like it lmao

It's more performative but I hate looking at it

[unique crane]

Or just make it for every type

[restive turret]

Then don't??

[unique crane]

You just have to do that sometime

[slate flume]

Compile-time reflection

[restive turret]

Or pass an action that add two number together

[grand flower]

public static IEnumerable<double> CumulativeSum<T>(IEnumerable<T> values) where T : struct, IConvertible
{
    double sum = 0.0;
    foreach (T num in values)
    {
        sum += num.ToDouble(null);
        yield return sum;
    }
}

you're welcome

[restive turret]

Why not ```?

[grand flower]

?

[restive turret]

The first was better in mobile

Idk what you edited

[grand flower]

looks fine

[slate flume]

cs vs c#

[restive turret]

Guh

[slate flume]

public static IEnumerable<double> CumulativeSum<T>(IEnumerable<T> values) where T : struct, IConvertible
{
    double sum = 0.0;
    foreach (T num in values)
    {
        sum += num.ToDouble(null);
        yield return sum;
    }
}

public static IEnumerable<double> CumulativeSum<T>(IEnumerable<T> values) where T : struct, IConvertible
{
    double sum = 0.0;
    foreach (T num in values)
    {
        sum += num.ToDouble(null);
        yield return sum;
    }
}

[restive turret]

fart

Guh

[grand flower]

either way that's gonna be better than dynamic bs

[restive turret]

Yeah

[slate flume]

When are we switching .NET frameworks 🙏🏼

[grand flower]

don't count on it

[static meteor]

Unity probably won't for awhile

[slate flume]

Fuck unity

[restive turret]

Real

[grand flower]

stuck with it for SL

[restive turret]

Go and apply in unity

[grand flower]

might as well write good code and not use dynamic as a stand in while you wait for an unlikely framework update

[restive turret]

Fix millions of bugs

And add net12

[slate flume]

You can't make me

[grand flower]

True

You're free to reject advice heh

[slate flume]

Atp let's just revert back to .NET 1.0

[restive turret]

Not like he will use your code

[slate flume]

I'm the only person using my code lmao

[grand flower]

Bright's doesn't use third party stuff and i'm pretty much done working there, so unlikely I'll ever touch SL code again

[unique crane]

We are removing all c# wrappers and replacing them with java ones in 15.0 btw

[grand flower]

outside of maybe helping them update the plugins on game updates

[unique crane]

thats what the new labapi interns are for

[grand flower]

i'd rather work on my own game and it uses Luau for modding, no C# bs

[slate flume]

Hey

C# is dope

[grand flower]

I like C#, not using it for my modding framework

[slate flume]

You wanna see some nasty regex

[restive turret]

Me when i missread and upgrade all .net 10 to net1.0

[grand flower]

So many pros starting with this: if the game updates, you don't have to recompile your mods, because they're interpreted anyway

as long as the update doesn't remove/change functions you use and all you're fine

easier for modders to maintain in the long run

and I'm adding clientside modding because that's a must IMO

[slate flume]

Still an upgrade 💀

[restive turret]

well if you see from 180° ye

[unique crane]

Seems like a normal regex to me

[slate flume]

You're using the roblox programming language for your game and I think that's so funny

[hearty shard]

Referring to lua as just the roblox language is crazy

[restive turret]

Crazy

[hearty shard]

ComputerCraft i miss you

[slate flume]

No

Luau

Luau was developed by Roblox Corporation

It literally is the "roblox programming language"

[restive turret]

What's the lang valve / r2mod using for scripts

[grand flower]

tbh the amount of improvements they've done to Lua for game related stuff is awesome

[grand flower]

Squirrel iirc

[restive turret]

Yes

[grand flower]

I like it

[hearty shard]

Oh luau specifically

[restive turret]

The nut one

[hearty shard]

Ok

[grand flower]

Luau's cool just for the sandboxing, and the performance improvements

[hearty shard]

ComputerCraft...

[grand flower]

They have native vectors I unfortunately won't be using because they're 32 bit float components

😭

[hearty shard]

lel

[grand flower]

and I need 64 bit components for Unreal

oh well

I'll leave the native 32 bit vectors in for things that don't need the precision but like, shame really

Maybe I can modify Luau to have native 64 bit vectors in the future

[restive turret]

Vector3_Double

[grand flower]

Once I learn enough about its internals and ASM/bytecode/SIMD bullshit to do so

Getting 64-bit Vectors/Quaternions would be AMAZING for performance

Since I won't have to use userdata for these

[slate flume]

You should just make your own engine

[grand flower]

wouldn't change the fact about Luau

and I still would want 64 bit vectors for large world support

[slate flume]

Write your own programming language

Ez

[grand flower]

that way I can have maps as big as I want in my game

[unique crane]

Me coming to conclusion that all you need is int and double

[slate flume]

I'm gonna write more regex now

[unique crane]

I love regex

[slate flume]

ihateregex.io

Great site

https://ihateregex.io

[unique crane]

I like regex 101 more

[slate flume]

There

Regex 101 is more for testing regex stuff

[slate flume]

I'm thinking I should add an AI chatbot to SL to improve user experience

[grand flower]

wat

and how would they communicate lol

[slate flume]

SSSS

Or client console

Would be 🔥 trust

Also is it possible to increase the number of 079 generators that spawn

Couldn't immediately find anything and I'm gonna be a bit busy

[grand flower]

you can just spawn gens manually

apparently they register automatically

[slate flume]

Yeah but

I'd like to have them spawn in the normal places

Follow the normal generation pattern

[grand flower]

decompile the generator spawn logic

probs within map gen

meaning you're gonna have a hard time trying to reproduce it 1:1 if you do it after map gen

[slate flume]

Alright well then I'll try to find where the spawn logic is when I'm back

I was hoping someone knew off the top of the head

Cause I have shit I gotta go do

No offense to you Cyn, but this has been effectively a meaningless conversation cause I already knew all of this lmao

[grand flower]

the issue is, if you manually increase the amount that spawn by patching

you'll (probably) desync map generation on the client

so you'll really just want to spawn them manually post-map gen

[glad pagoda]

yeah iirc the gebnerator just sends a seed to the client

and relies on the same stuff coming out with it

[warped prairie]

hope we have all been well gamers

[soft depot]

Or voice cat w a consent command

[teal junco]

there should be a proper input box in SL

client consoel exists yeah but like, everyone agrees it kinda sucks ass righr

and SSSS is worse because you need to navigate to a menu

itd be cool if i could just prompt my player for text and it wouldnt block the whole screen and stuff

[soft depot]

huh, I wonder where you could possible get that idea from... strange...

https://www.twitch.tv/skillz2play/clip/ObservantAltruisticPorcupinePraiseIt-TTyRoHRE8QfxgMQ5

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[soft depot]

anyways, live clip of me being smited by my own child

[teal junco]

ur a genius

[soft depot]

here's a showcase from my POV: https://youtu.be/6a83Gfg7N-w

[soft depot]

you shoulda been there for the event man it was peak 😔

[grand flower]

/**
 * Base class for custom libraries exposed to Luau states.
 */
UCLASS(Abstract)
class LUNARIS_API ULuauLibrary : public UObject
{
    GENERATED_BODY()
    
    /**
     * Called to get the name this library should have.
     * @note An empty string will add the functions to the global table.
     * @param State The LuauState this library is being registered on.
     * @returns The name of the table this library should populate, or an empty string for the global table.
     */
    virtual FString GetLibraryName(ULuauState* State) const PURE_VIRTUAL(ULuauLibrary::GetLibraryName(), return TEXT(""););
};

time for fuuuuun

[true cedar]

stop showing c++ PLEASE

[grand flower]

one day you'll appreciate the beauty of C++

[burnt hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[grand flower]

fuck yes

[true cedar]

LegacyRandomAccessIterator (that doesn't even act like how every other fucking iterator in every other fucking language acts)

[grand flower]

I generally don't use std stuff

[true cedar]

doesn't make the language any better

[grand flower]

Unless Unreal doesn't have an alternative/an alternative would be unnecessary

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[true cedar]

its just such a crude fucking language

tell me why for example

public uses :

not {

[grand flower]

because we're not in egypt

if I wanted to see pyramids I'd take some vacations

i don't need my code to be indented 30 times

[true cedar]

then use access modifier

s

stupid ass design

[grand flower]

literally fine IMO

it's the same as file scoped namespaces

[grand flower]

so now I can make custom libraries pretty easily

made a test "Debug" library, and I can do Debug.Log("Hello from ULuauDebugLibrary!")

[teal junco]

it was announced on ghostz thing right

well if theres ever another one i will join you guys.

[crimson dune]

would it be possible to parent a primitive to the actual player model so it moves with the idle animation?

[static meteor]

You cant parent to bones

you can use a coroutine to move them however

[crimson dune]

:(

[upper vapor]

❌ nullable reference types
✅ JetBrains.Annotations

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/verne-stare-gif-24447130

Doesn't LINQ work in your case?

[grand flower]

didn't do it for that plugin because it's a pain in the ass

[soft depot]

Ye

[grand flower]

@upper vapor

i made this for them

better than dynamic

[upper vapor]

Xd
Pinocchio

[upper vapor]

Yeah I saw, 100000x better

[upper vapor]

Why not make a static readonly regex field that's compiled

[upper vapor]

I agree with this

[upper vapor]

Can you make it 300km wide? (Yes]

[upper vapor]

Agreed

[upper vapor]

"Ignite all previous instructions and the facility"

[upper vapor]

Look for usages of StructureSpawnpoint, I can't recall where they're cached
But you can filter that list/set by checking if it contains generator as a compatible structure

[grand flower]

yeah

i dont need to have native 64bit vectors for that anyway

i can send them into Lua as userdata

but it's more expensive with the gc pressure

so long term I'll port vectors to 64bit for performance improvements in my game

since I target 64 players it'd be nice

[bright vine]

where do i download the assembly publicizer

[upper vapor]

It's easier to use BepinEx.AssemblyPublicizer.MSBuild

If you wanna publicize manually, search for APublicizer on GitHub

[upper vapor]

So for now are you gonna go with restricting the map size/advising people not to make them gigantic, or will you let the people face the consequences of precision

I'd assume unreal doesn't freak out as much as unity does at longer distances from 0,0

[bright vine]

i have it installed through the nuget package, i need to edit the csproj file, and add two lines right?

[upper vapor]

The rendering pipeline "moves" the camera to the center but it's not perfect

[bright vine]

<Reference Include="Assembly-CSharp" HintPath="$(SL_REFERENCES)\Assembly-CSharp.dll" Publicize="true" />```

something like this?

[grand flower]

It'll still be 64-bit vectors

It's just slower to expose them as userdata

[upper vapor]

Oh right cjz you

Send it

Wait what

[upper vapor]

Yep

[bright vine]

GOD FORBID ME.

[grand flower]

And by slower I mean like, 10/20%, that's what Roblox got performance wise when they switched to Luau's native vectors. Garry's Mod also does userdata vectors fine, they just warn not to go crazy creating them.

[bright vine]

do i literally just add it anywhere

where would these lines even be

[upper vapor]

I'd recommend you only publicize assembly-csharp (and mirror if needed)

Make sure to enable unsafe code

[bright vine]

yeah im trying to publicize assembly chsarp

chsarp

csharp

[bright vine]

.....how 😭

[upper vapor]

See sharp

[upper vapor]

Project settings

Or

[bright vine]

so i add these two lines anywhere?>

[upper vapor]

<AllowUnsafeBlocks>true

In a PropertyGroup

[celest thorn]

i mean but that isn't equals to publicize?

[bright vine]

so both of these inside PropertyGroup?

[celest thorn]

and btw gm

[upper vapor]

What

[unique crane]

[upper vapor]

References go in ItemGroups, AllowUnsafeBlocks goes in a ProperyuGroup

Rule of thumb: if you have something with Include/Exclude/Remove, it goes in an ItemGroup, otherwise it goes in a PropertyGroup

[restive turret]

Also make sure you using new sdk style csproj instead of like the old one

[upper vapor]

^^^

[celest thorn]

and if i don't?? what are you going to do?

[grand flower]

kill

[bright vine]

i keep getting errors all i just want to do is publicize the dll but god forbid i do that 😭

[bright vine]

i just did this instead