plugins-dev-chat

[restive turret]

I will haunt you and you will break your stuff on my behalf

[cyan crown]

😿

evil programmer

[restive turret]

[cyan crown]

i'm gonna send bools and 10k if statements to knock at your door

[restive turret]

They have to knock different times

[cyan crown]

😂

[restive turret]

Not like i open door to anyone

[cyan crown]

for some reason unity started to lag

like a lot

to be fair i had 2 unity open for 6 hours

😳

[restive turret]

Muhaha

[cyan crown]

its fine now

[restive turret]

Restart pc

[cyan crown]

i'll turn it off right now and go to sleep

[restive turret]

I had 2 VS open, unity and vsc and like 30 chrome tab
And unity , vsc crashed

[cyan crown]

💀

[restive turret]

Was out of ram

[cyan crown]

yeah probably same for me

anyways good night sigma

i'll see you tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-wink-tongue-out-gif-8216695057499490778

[restive turret]

And I'm gonna break things

[glad pagoda]

but it crashed my GPU driver too

yes

that's a 22GB alloc there

[cyan crown]

😿

[plain gazelle]

Working Utility Cart

[cyan crown]

Does the cart react to physics?

If no then its bad😾

[tulip kiln]

Actually it's not "working" since item pickups can't be parented for smooth movement and I'm a perfectionist

[teal junco]

waypoint :3

[slow grotto]

Strap a waypoint toy to it to contain the items. Bonus is players could also ride it

[teal junco]

I made a system to make items stick to a vehicle without reacting to the rigidbody based on ThatGuy's suggestion

so theoretically he could add a rigidbody to the cart.

[plain gazelle]

It uses waypoints and is perfectly smooth

:c

[tulip kiln]

Since when we were allowed to have our own waypoints

I forgor

[plain gazelle]

couple versions ago idk

[cyan crown]

Amazing

Would love to see it react to physics ngl

[slow grotto]

Just make sure to use WaypointToy::BoundsSize and not Scale. I've only heard legend of the bugs that introduces.

[teal junco]

Bounds was introduced recently

So yes

[teal junco]

I dont think it would be too amazing

Like there isnt much reason for that to be there.

[plain gazelle]

Had to make a lil script to spawn my own waypoints based on specifically named PMER gameobjects because PMER's waypoint toys are broken af
I set the scale to V3.one and the bounds to the gameobject scale, works fine

[teal junco]

You can throw pickups to push it. You can bump them against each other

[teal junco]

Site 12 MER code is mad scuffed

Its a good system though.

[plain gazelle]

I use locked InteractableToys as the Utility cart trays because for some reason they dont collide with players but collide with items. So its perfect

[teal junco]

Well it works. Nobody wants to maintain an entire fork of MER just for a few things

[teal junco]

Its because of gameobject layers fyi

[plain gazelle]

Yeah and the guy that made it left after ignoring my 20573 requests to teach me how he edited the code, so awesome

[plain gazelle]

wack

[teal junco]

What code are you specifically talking about

Im mostly talking about the one where it scans gameobject names

its part of the publicized one.

[plain gazelle]

Something about being able to spawn in Schematics within subfolders

base PMER doesnt support it afaik?

so the person edited something(?) and now we can have Subfolders in our /Schematics/ directory

so much cleaner

qwq

[plain gazelle]

uhhh i do that with the SchematicSpawned event and a foreach on Schematic.AdminToyBases

[late shoal]

So basically i did a queue-system and i want to make a command, where you can switch the servers... but im getting this error in my console, when i type the command, any ideas?

Failed to decrypt received message. Encryption key is not available.

[sinful bronze]

Gog morning plugin devs

[heady turret]

No

[sinful bronze]

😭

[slow grotto]

I'd guess your player isn't authenticated/ready without seeing code.

[heady turret]

Bad morning

[sinful bronze]

I see TayTay have a good morning

[true cedar]

its 11:18 pm

[heady turret]

No

You wrong

[sinful bronze]

TayTay confirm my words

Pls

[heady turret]

@slow grotto do you have bad morning?

[slow grotto]

I'm 12 hours from morning

[heady turret]

See

[static meteor]

Real

[sinful bronze]

Bad evening

[heady turret]

He has bad morning

[slow grotto]

But is good

Good not morning

[heady turret]

Explain this pls I don't understand theme

@sinful bronze help

[sinful bronze]

What the fuck here

2. What to do?

Its a good question

[heady turret]

This is a "Life Safety" lesson.

[true cedar]

eq

ew

[upper vapor]

Hi gay

[keen halo]

hello ghey

[teal junco]

thats so fucked up man

[royal mica]

Does LabAPI Enable/Disable plugins during fast restart? Or does it just not touch them at all
Also if doesn't touch at all, what is the proper event to listen to for proper cleanup

Round and RoundRestart doesn't have any events

[icy knoll]

there is a RoundRestarted event

does it not work?

[royal mica]

Oh I'm blind

literally third line in RoundRestart.InitiateRoundRestart

[restive turret]

wdym fast restart?

sr?

[royal mica]

Fast Restart, it's a flag

That just does a cleanup and makes the players reconnect in a shorter period

[restive turret]

I dont think it run enable or disable tbh

[celest thorn]

Honestly don’t use it

Its broken asf

[royal mica]

I won't, but it causes some funky stuff if it is used lol

[celest thorn]

Instead for shortening time just set the value in the config

[royal mica]

Nah, I'm not asking cause I want to use it, i'm just preparing

[celest thorn]

Oh

[royal mica]

cause doing the cleanup in the Disabled() is not sufficient

[restive turret]

PluginLoader.Initialize runs after dedicaded server starts

[royal mica]

That is given, but rather the question is how are the plugin lifecycles are handled during fast restart

and apperantly very badly

[restive turret]

it doesnt do anything i think

[royal mica]

Wait, does Disable() used actually

[celest thorn]

Check it out

Btw how are you guys doing??

[royal mica]

I1m doing that

Just my ILSpy crashes when I remove classes

Lovely. so the cleanup is literally pull out the rug and force restart

[celest thorn]

Lovely

I know tho disable gets called

[restive turret]

Disable not used btw

[royal mica]

Does ILSpy analyze other DLLs or just itself

[restive turret]

I use DnSpyEx ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty shard]

slime

[royal mica]

I would use DotPeek but it's not available

[restive turret]

ye

[hearty shard]

Use WaitingForPlayers event for cleanup

Per round

Or Disable if you need to fully disable plugin

[royal mica]

You cannot Disable the plugin doe

[restive turret]

Disable doesnt get called

[hearty shard]

Ya

Ur meant to use a custom system

[royal mica]

This will be lovely to refactor to

[restive turret]

in labapi or basegame. Other plugins can disable plugin

[hearty shard]

Or wait for labapi to get disable feature

[restive turret]

:Cinamea

[hearty shard]

!!!

[royal mica]

I assume now that we have a central system for plugins, we'll get a manager

why is that word blocked

like we had for the other plugin system

[restive turret]

like the one in LocalAdmin?

[royal mica]

no

the predecessor for LabAPI

[restive turret]

nwapi?

[royal mica]

that was not LocalAdmin based no?

ye

[restive turret]

localadmin got the plugins via github

[royal mica]

Oh it is, my bad

[restive turret]

i dont think nwapi had anything in it with downloading other plugins

[royal mica]

Ye, but now we have a central hub for the plugins, so you can have easier manager

[restive turret]

localadmin is public aint?

[royal mica]

Ye https://github.com/northwood-studios/LocalAdmin-V2/tree/master/PluginsManager

[restive turret]

but i dont think the website has any api yet

[royal mica]

No, that is what I said that it's the next step

[restive turret]

ye if an api would be created for it then maybe this can be done i guess

[icy knoll]

it does

atleast the plugins website

[restive turret]

That's nice

[upper vapor]

RoundRestarting, but I'd recommend you rely on WaitingForPlayers more

[royal mica]

I need to make it so it has a did I exist before or are we going from full cold start logic

yeah but that works

time to update every plugin woho

[restive turret]

🔥

[upper vapor]

It would be nice to have since schema for the plugin website that LA would use, so we could define installation options (e.g. modular plugins)

Now it could also support plugin deps

[late shoal]

Well, everyone in the queue is stuck at the pre-auth until a spot on the server is free, and then I’ll process their authentication

[plain gazelle]

Are there waypoint events for players entering them?
TLDR i want a waypoint that only affects items and not players.

Due to our RP server, we sometimes still have Scale ~0 players so just a small waypoint isnt a good solution for me...

[royal mica]

Waypoints for items not players? What are waypoints good for again aside from being able to move in that coordinate?

Without knowledge of waypoints, would a trigger zone work for that purpose?

Cause there you can check what collided and check if it is an item

[restive turret]

nope, no events

[restive turret]

try patch
AdminToyWaypoint::Add

[restive turret]

this is when an object is added to the waypoints child

[plain gazelle]

Thank you!!

[restive turret]

• Remove if you wanna remove too

[royal mica]

Oh wait, so the cart has a waypoint, the cart moves the waypoint, thus every item with it as well?

Wait, basically waypoints are like elevators then

[plain gazelle]

Yeah

[plain gazelle]

Elevators literally use Waypoints, no?

[royal mica]

I think that was the reason why it was added yeah, but it has escaped my mind completly

[plain gazelle]

^^

Now if only we could delete more rooms after they got spawned in, like TC01 and Testroom....

[restive turret]

yes

ElevatorWaypoint

[royal mica]

Just disable map generation and call it manually

[plain gazelle]

I didnt know spawning in rooms manually worked? or wdym

[royal mica]

Oh I'm stupid, I forgot the MapGeneration is both sided

[restive turret]

yup

[plain gazelle]

do you guys think if i ping david enough times, the custom map generation and networked room update will come out sooner?

[restive turret]

nope

that needs full rework on how its done

[royal mica]

I mean technically it can come in 15.0

since they need to touch the system anyway

[slow grotto]

Console commands are sent over the EncryptedChannelManager which appears the require the client be authenticated to the ClientReady state. I haven't looked much at this but maybe check out the Harmony Patches here on how someone else handled a similar system https://github.com/reversum/QueueSystem

[late shoal]

i know, i forked his plugin and made a better version

Well is there a way to force the player to be authenticated, while being in pre auth?

[slow grotto]

Well that message comes from EncryptedChannelManager::TryUnpack so I'd start looking around there.

Maybe if you could authenticate them once, save encryption keys and throw them back to preauth state you could manually handle their messages? Wouldn't want to just allow any authenticated commands to come in.

Just an idea to start with

[late shoal]

i have no idea how to do that lmao

[slow grotto]

There was also someone who made a dedicated lobby server which passed people to different SCPSL server based on a path they took. That would probably show a way to handle unauthed transfers, but don't recall if it was a private project.

[slow grotto]

Yeah it would be a hell of a learning curve

[late shoal]

its too much work, only to send a command to redirect themself to a specific server at the end xd

[slow grotto]

https://github.com/reversum/QueueSystem/blob/LabAPI/QueueSystem/HarmonyPatches/ProcessAuthenticationReponsePatch.cs

Looks like some of the work has been done

Some

The QueueItem in the WaitingQueue has their authenticateresponse already so that's something.

[celest thorn]

Is it possible to prevent jailbird from being charged?

[late shoal]

ill send you my code snippet in dms

[slow grotto]

LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ProcessingJailbirdMessage? Prevent when JailbirdMessageType is ChargeStarted

[celest thorn]

who tf at nw made this event lol

[upper vapor]

CustomLiteNetLib4MirrorTransport

[slow grotto]

Exiled's ChargingJailbirdEventArgs would be easier to use, but obviously needs Exiled.

[celest thorn]

no.

exiled please no

i supported it

but now that labapi exist

its 10x better

(yamato you can say whatever you want i will stand on this)

[late shoal]

hm?

[slow grotto]

Yeah LabAPI does most things Exiled does now without patches, and updates with the game so some stability guarantee.

I do still build for Exiled though, and seem to get twice as many downloads for the Exiled version than LabAPI one.

[icy knoll]

i don’t build for exiled anymore

[restive turret]

Me neither

Less stuff to maintain

[slow grotto]

My "Exiled build" is just the LabAPI plugin but just do

#if EXILED
    public class Plugin : Exiled.API.Features.Plugin<Config>
#else
    public class Plugin : LabApi.Loader.Features.Plugins.Plugin<Config>
#endif

But I get why people don't anymore. I have a couple years of developing plugins in it so hard for me to leave it behind

[icy knoll]

and then the enable and disable methods

[slow grotto]

#if EXILED
        public bool IsEnabled { get; set; } = true;
        public bool Debug { get; set; } = false;
#endif

Yeah there are a couple other places like that

I prefer LabAPI's approach

[icy knoll]

there are some people who also do preprocessors on events too and i’m like bffr

[slow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-face-mask-ryan-reynolds-why-why-though-gif-16044247

[upper vapor]

It's horrible

[upper vapor]

Unless you have some exiled-specific addition, there isn't really much point in doing exiled builds, it just makes your life more complicated

[slow grotto]

I do it to catch the server owners that only use Exiled plugins still.

But with the hostile takeover and multiple repo/org changes I'm sure it's fewer than it was before.

[upper vapor]

Labapi plugins are compatible with exiled so that's uh...

[frail zinc]

But labapi is better

[plain gazelle]

Hm, i dont think i can somehow check for a Player in this method?

[restive turret]

if child is FirstPersonMovementModule

if its pickup then
PickupStandardPhysics

[slow grotto]

One thing LabAPI is missing is a plugin requests channel. I hop on the Exiled one when I'm bored.

I've been bored lately

[plain gazelle]

Do you think this would work .w.

[sweet flax]

it has been already proposed like a month ago

.

[restive turret]

idnunno

[slow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/leonidas-300-dine-in-hell-testing-in-production-gif-1672425238602097804

[upper vapor]

Tonight we will STEAL DA MOON

[plain gazelle]

Our Dev server has been down for over a month
So yes
Prod test time

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fueRUi5AWWQ

[upper vapor]

Skill issue?

[icy knoll]

btw you dont need to provide a variable using x is Class

you can just omit it

[upper vapor]

-# The gray is too gray because of the vs theme

[tepid sluice]

How i get if a player inside elavator?

[upper vapor]

Go through all elevator chamvers

Check bounds

[slow grotto]

Player.List.Where(player => elevator.WorldSpaceBounds.Contains(player.Position)); All players in an elevator.

Fun and untested, good luck

Or if any elevator, one moment

[tepid sluice]

okay

nice linq

[restive turret]

you can use Any instead

nvm didnt read the end of it

[slow grotto]

Elevator.List.Where(elevator => elevator.WorldSpaceBounds.Contains(player.Position)).FirstOrDefault(); would get the elevator player is in

[tepid sluice]

yea still i need to foreach all elevator

[restive turret]

Map.Elevators.Any(elevator => elevator.WorldSpaceBounds.Contains(position));

[slow grotto]

-# Totally didn't steal how Exiled does it

[tepid sluice]

[slow grotto]

Actually need some advice too. Should I continue my Lua for SCPSL plugin? https://plugins.scpslgame.com/plugin/tayjay/SCriPt. More, would people use it?

I spent a year making it for Exiled, and a month translating it to LabAPI and got 8 downloads.

I then write a plugin in a day and it gets hundreds.

[restive turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I dont use Lua so

[plain gazelle]

hm? I dont quite understand

[icy knoll]

you did x is Class _

you can omit the _

if(x is Class)

[slow grotto]

I hear that a lot 😂

[plain gazelle]

oooo thankies

[slow grotto]

Just an example of what the plugin can do. Adds a chance to spawn skele. Just a text file that loads with the server.

[restive turret]

yeah

im not a fan of lua so

[royal mica]

I would say this is the wrong channel to ask this tbh, cause everyone where at one point rather just make it into a plugin

Personally anything I need to do, I start a plugin / edit existing ones, I wouldn't use another language and framework

[slow grotto]

I suppose you're right

[royal mica]

I can see the appeal, that you can use dynamic scripts and easy extensions for common stuff without the need for C#

[slow grotto]

How about releasing this for the degens?

[royal mica]

that should be built in into SL tbh

this would improve gameplay tenfold

[restive turret]

VideoToy 🔥

[plain gazelle]

Soooo, although this Logger gets called successfully, it does not appear to block/prevent/stop the Player from being added to the List of children and thus from moving

I still move with the waypoint toy

[slow grotto]

Does the .Add sync it to the client? Or does it parent the waypoint itself based on position?

[frail zinc]

but.. why ?

C# is better and more adapted in that context

[plain gazelle]

Good question, idk qwq

[slow grotto]

Because it was something to do, and really just spent the time making it to add this on my dev server.

[grand flower]

Lua is nice

I'm using it (or well Luau) for my side project

[slow grotto]

Also "ScriptedEvents" needed competition

[grand flower]

Not a bad idea, but I don't see it being used very often

[restive turret]

good for a POC

[slow grotto]

Or "I just need something that says hello when someone joins my server but don't want all the bloat of X plugin"

But yeah something to ask not C# devs

[grand flower]

tbh making your own plugin for this takes 5 minutes at most

so like, I wouldn't consider it bloat

I'd say this would be more for people who know Lua but not C#

[slow grotto]

Good points, thank you

I'll put it lower on my list of like 17 other projects

[frail zinc]

C, C++ and C# is the most powerfull language i think, if someone don't know one of them, that's a big mistake and he should consider learning that instead of using lua for making C# plugin

[grand flower]

Each language has a usecase, for modding Lua is pretty good

[royal mica]

Personally I find that a bad take, You do not actually need C/++/#. Ask a Java dew with 6 figure salary

[grand flower]

Java is non-microsoft C#

[royal mica]

Or then a Java/Type -script dev

But the point is: It is a script system for easy modification without having to create or install plugins

[frail zinc]

Yeah, absolutely, but with all of the C you can do so much things

[royal mica]

Also in this case as I exactly said, this chat is exactly the opposite from your userbase

I only learnt C# cause of work and SL modding, but I can 100% defo see myself using a Lua plugin instead if I were to hate C#

[frail zinc]

Learning others language is also very interesting

[royal mica]

Heck, I would create a Kotlin interop and use that instead

[grand flower]

Not for everybody

[sinful bronze]

when sl plugin on cobol

pls

[frail zinc]

Learn assembly, that's better

[grand flower]

Lua's great to know either way

So this isn't a bad idea for a plugin

just not very useful

[sinful bronze]

im updating my servers to new sl updates using punch cards

[unique crane]

Bash scripting to RA!!!!

[sinful bronze]

YEAH

[slow grotto]

Wouldn't recommend it as a first language as Arrays starting at 1 will screw you on any future ones

[frail zinc]

💀

[slow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/drool-spit-homer-the-simpsons-gif-2049516544161306158

[frail zinc]

You've just lost 99.9% of players with this feature, congrats! x)

[unique crane]

I dont quite understand your argument

Or how did you ended up with that statement

[frail zinc]

x)

[upper vapor]

me when you can put the delegate in FirstOrDefault

[royal mica]

someones hates scripting )

[unique crane]

so

what

[sinful bronze]

no one will know

[slow grotto]

Yeah forgot about that, was hastily written

[frail zinc]

I think on sl, nobody know bash, except may be 0.1% players

[unique crane]

Yeah so what

How is that gonna lose 99.9% of the playerbase?

[royal mica]

Pretty sure half the people here knows bash

Also pretty sure 99.9% of players do not know how to write in C# either

[hearty shard]

how does that lose them all

[slow grotto]

I should probably not show my Javascript to LabAPI plugin at this point then huh?

[hearty shard]

if bash is ADDED
its not removing anything

[royal mica]

Oh and a pro argument for the lua plugin: Roblox kids who started doing roblox games can also create plugins with that without learning C#

[hearty shard]

its like saying labapi killed sl because not everyone is a C# dev

[frail zinc]

I mean, if server admin can't manage their server, it's a bit complicated

[restive turret]

and im pretty sure less tahn 0.1% player has access to RA

so

[unique crane]

I still dont understand what do you mean

Like geniuenly dont know

[hearty shard]

they never said removing labapi or the ability to just

modify it

you can do that even without labapi

[frail zinc]

If bash is added yes, but if the current ra is removed, ..

[upper vapor]

PLEASE

[unique crane]

I never said anything about removing RA?

[grand flower]

not hard to get rid of

same goes for going from any other language to Lua tbh

[upper vapor]

that's a contra argument...

[unique crane]

Dont know

[hearty shard]

david...

[unique crane]

I assume you just misinterpreted what I said

its ok

[grand flower]

I'd still suggest learning the language SL uses instead of using a third party plugin that adds another language

[royal mica]

Honestly? Can we remove RA and create our own in HTML

[grand flower]

In this case, not too bad of an idea ig

[frail zinc]

Yeah, but if you add bash, is more funny to remove the current RA 😂, to make thing harder

[frail zinc]

May be..

[hearty shard]

💀

[grand flower]

but like an example of this is Unreal Engine, there's plugins to add C# support, but I wouldn't recommend using them in an actual project

Better to learn C++ instead of adding another point of failure to your project

[upper vapor]

custom RA per server?

[frail zinc]

Woww that's a good idea

[slow grotto]

https://github.com/tayjay/TTPlugins/wiki/TTAdmin Tried it long ago. Was very nice

[royal mica]

It would be great for moderation stuff

[slow grotto]

Is dead now though

[unique crane]

Learning c++ from c# isnt that big brick wall hit either

[frail zinc]

Yeah adding menu in RA would be amazing !

[royal mica]

Still requires external stuff :\

[upper vapor]

learning every language in one language...

[grand flower]

Until you do new X() thinking it's like C# and fuck yourself over

[unique crane]

FUCK YOU

[frail zinc]

Learn assembly !!

[upper vapor]

XDDDD

[unique crane]

IM NOT EVEN TABBED IN

[grand flower]

The only time I actually learned assembly was when I used to reverse engineer Titanfall 2 a little

for the community client

[royal mica]

can we have brainfuck in SL

[grand flower]

was pretty fun

[frail zinc]

Now make a full game with assembly. x)

[grand flower]

I'm good

I'd rather finish my game projects

[frail zinc]

[grand flower]

I'm happy with C++ and Unreal

Lots of jobs, and works great for my own stuff

[slow grotto]

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/131q6b/til_roller_coaster_tycoon_was_programmed_by_one/

[restive turret]

lmao

[grand flower]

That's what you get for using Unity

/s

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unreal-engine-computer-smoking-computer-smoking-gif-24575019

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-can-do-this-all-day-avengers-endgame-marvel-gif-15551087

[upper vapor]

could be worse

[grand flower]

just kidding anyway use whatever engine suits your project and your knowledge

[grand flower]

bwahahah

[unique crane]

rip

Task manager -> kill -> try again

[grand flower]

hey at least you're somewhat safe from things like new C++ compiler versions changing how your code works

true story we're bracing for a shitstorm at work, Clang 17 seems to change how bitfields are initialized in engine, dunno if it's an engine bug or an us bug

only got a few months to find and fix the issue before we're forced to use it

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[slow grotto]

Feature™

[frail zinc]

Unreal is a powerfull engine, but c++

[grand flower]

there's a similar (?) issue being tracked so we're keeping an eye on it see if it being resolved gives us any pointers

https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-328847

[grand flower]

C++ is lovely

[upper vapor]

pointers

ahahaa

[grand flower]

I do miss C#'s iteration speed though

[frail zinc]

C# is like the evolved version of C and C++

There is so much thing in C#

[upper vapor]

evolved version of java

okay but c++ has featurs from like
every other language
it's the omni-language

[frail zinc]

Mhhh

[celest thorn]

i had a schematic building for 40 minutes

[upper vapor]

skill issue

[celest thorn]

you know big schematic

[restive turret]

@grand flower

[celest thorn]

yo tell me a word

[upper vapor]

what the fucky

[upper vapor]

amalgamation

[celest thorn]

wtf

wtf am i supposed to do with amalgamation

[unique crane]

The last row feels like one way death sentence ticket

[celest thorn]

hmmm

[upper vapor]

amalgamate it with a bunch of other words

[unique crane]

Im contacting beryl to remove you from the api team

Goodbye

[restive turret]

😭

[slow grotto]

Oh just remembered something I wanted to show since I don't see any reference to it in the Discord.
DrawableLinesManager.GenerateLine()
Use lines command on client to see them. Good for some plugin debugging.

[restive turret]

not my screenshot

[celest thorn]

who?

[restive turret]

Blanket

[unique crane]

This was done for internal debugging but yea

debugging overall

[celest thorn]

you shoot blankets ig

[unique crane]

feel free to use it

[celest thorn]

i cannot even see the video

[slow grotto]

It seemed quite out of the way so figured

[restive turret]

skill issue

[unique crane]

Me neither

Encoding moment

[celest thorn]

Oh my gof

you want to destroy your FPS

Please DON'T USE IT LIKE THAT

trust

[slow grotto]

Maybe too big to load, 88MB

[celest thorn]

you are destroying your fps

[slow grotto]

Imagine lines, that is all

[celest thorn]

they destroy fps really fast

[alpine glade]

Hi eve

[hearty shard]

im sharing the image

[slow grotto]

Good to know

[hearty shard]

the world will know

[alpine glade]

No

Lies

[celest thorn]

im scared to know

[restive turret]

[plain gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1424808462142935164

help

[royal mica]

I have a problem with Rider and not sure if others have it. The assemblies panel keep refusing to decompile classes and I have to remove an Assembly to refresh it

[upper vapor]

huh

[restive turret]

cant help, not using rider :(

[upper vapor]

yeah it does that sometimes for me too

but i can still double shift to search for types

[royal mica]

I have Zero idea why it does it

it is so strange

it's like the background dotpeek just dies or goes to sleep

[warped prairie]

[royal mica]

What is NonFacilityCompatibility

Is this used for internal testing?

[unique crane]

whats that

[glad pagoda]

i guess it was for the shooting range scene?

[royal mica]

Oh possibly

[glad pagoda]

actually no

[royal mica]

I assume this is not really used anymore

just a remnant of the past

[slow grotto]

Contains 3 scenes
Shooting Range
CassieDemo
Facility

Time to see if there's anything in them

[restive turret]

Facility ye

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-serious-right-meow-gif-27237017

[slow grotto]

I'm going with they don't exist anymore.

[plain gazelle]

You guys should please totally thumbs-up this idea post
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/290

[grand flower]

i wanna say yes but there's gonna be a performance cost to all this

[hearty shard]

Theres a performance cost in the visibility event

Which i wish wasnt there

[icy knoll]

tbh i cant even think of any way to really dynamically allow for the event

[plain gazelle]

Doesnt even work with Teleporting while noclipping for us x.x

[hearty shard]

Um

The visibility event?

[plain gazelle]

I have a command that forces IsVisible to false for a specified player to become invisible to everyone.
But when noclipping and then teleporting to someone far away, sometimes they can see you/see your ghost.

Still not sure if the noclip ghost is a base game thing or a result of our haunted ass old abandoned code

[slate flume]

Lmao you have a section of abandoned code that you don't touch like it's a haunted house in a suburban neighborhood?

[plain gazelle]

yes

Me and the only other dev are currently working on refactoring the code base because its all Exiled

Our other more active devs all left, got banned or are on a forever break

[slate flume]

Remake it all from scratch

That's what I did

Well tbf

I spent like multiple weeks straight sitting in my room coding because of that choice

But it paid tf off

[plain gazelle]

Yeah thats what we are doing

But we both have jobs and such xd

[slate flume]

Yeah

I created a list of all the important things I needed to remake, then created an entirely new plugin from scratch

It's the way I like to do things

Even if it's more work

[grand flower]

just be like me

full time job, and the second you clock out, more hours working on a Luau plugin for Unreal from scratch

[wheat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

if u need assistance on my ass code i still exist

just dont bug me too much

:D

[plain gazelle]

We all definitely miss you a lot, but we also dont want to bother you x3

Its just that now, Stick, 3m, you are gone and dot still on break. Its just me and KFC remaking the codebase x.x
We are both slow

[wheat flower]

Dont be afraid to ask me questions, I simply am taking a focus on other things for a while, its still something im interested in atm

[plain gazelle]

I think we are still unsure how that whole source generator works for items, so we will do other stuff first, maybe you could somehow make a small guide about how to make a new item script .w.

[wheat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/list-note-put-captain-america-remember-gif-15016153

[restive turret]

I through you already finished it

[grand flower]

haven't had time lately but im working on it right now

[restive turret]

Ah good luck!
Since probably others would enjoy it I would fork or create repo for it

[grand flower]

eventually yes

For now I'm only going to be using it for my game, but once it's stable enough and I'm satisfied with how the codebase looks, I'll open source the plugin

[warped prairie]

!status

[regal lake]

https://status.scpslgame.com/

[worthy rune]

you could try changing the bounds of the waypoint for all clients to zero(server retains the correct bounds)

[hearty shard]

Merry Christmas, Developers! 🎄🎁

[restive turret]

Happy new year developers

[upper vapor]

you can auto-start the round with it

[tepid sluice]

[restive turret]

I through this is a crying emote

[hearty shard]

cry

[tepid sluice]

the new avatar doesn't suit my decoration

So i'd better change it back

[hearty shard]

smh

[restive turret]

No u

[hearty shard]

awh

[tepid sluice]

bwa

[restive turret]

Ha

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[tepid sluice]

Do 100 PR to labapi now

[hearty shard]

oh my

[tepid sluice]

make labapi great again

[restive turret]

Call me The Breaker because every change I make is a breaking change 🔥

[tepid sluice]

[restive turret]

What

[restive turret]

[upper vapor]

Real

[tepid sluice]

I hope you can destroy his breaking changes

[restive turret]

Dw ax breaking it too

Breaking the dance

[tepid sluice]

😭

[restive turret]

Haha! Did you get it?

[tepid sluice]

get what

[restive turret]

Breakdance

[tepid sluice]

🥶

well

[upper vapor]

I don't :3

[restive turret]

You do you worst?

[tepid sluice]

always expect worst

[restive turret]

That's why you get surprised if something is good

[upper vapor]

Eh

I do what I feel like doing (not much)

[restive turret]

Real

[celest thorn]

Mlga

[restive turret]

Hi zero

[celest thorn]

Hiiii :3

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[restive turret]

Amiga

[upper vapor]

Yeah for Americans yeah

[restive turret]

I don't think zero is am

[upper vapor]

I know, i was just saying

[celest thorn]

No im italian

[upper vapor]

2pm for us, 6 am in PST

[celest thorn]

And i would never say “make italy great again”

[upper vapor]

You just did

[restive turret]

Lmao

[celest thorn]

Bruh….

[restive turret]

You just got played

[celest thorn]

Yea

Ngl i hate axwabo sometimes

[restive turret]

Why

The jokes

[celest thorn]

The joke wasn’t funny ;(

[upper vapor]

thanks, i hate myself sometimes, too

[celest thorn]

Thats so sad ngl i feel bad

[warped prairie]

It’s ok guys look at this dude

He’s having such a jolly time

[celest thorn]

This chat died

[restive turret]

Ye

[slow grotto]

I'll get the chat going.

CustomDataStores, are they persistent/saved, removed on server restart, or removed on round restart?

[soft turtle]

!status

[regal lake]

https://status.scpslgame.com/

[upper vapor]

they're player instance-specific

so when the player leaves (including round restart) it gets reset

[slow grotto]

Thank you

[upper vapor]

np

[slow grotto]

RIP Server

[upper vapor]

wtf is roubaix

[icy knoll]

code name

[upper vapor]

robubax

[slow grotto]

Steam DDOS?

[upper vapor]

maybe steam did a bit of an oopsie

[icy knoll]

yeah usually maintenance starts later

[upper vapor]

[slow grotto]

Can't blame these small indie companies for letting the Interns do critical work.

[fresh zenith]

hey uh is there a way to get an boolean if all the plugins are loaded or not? ik there is PluginLoader.initialised but thats kinda unimportant

[upper vapor]

nope unfortunately

you can subscribe to SceneManager.OnSceneLoaded

[slow grotto]

Set plugin priority to Lowest and 🙏

[upper vapor]

that's kind of the earliest reliable event

[slow grotto]

/s

[upper vapor]

make sure to unsubscribe when the event executes

[fresh zenith]

other question can i get an true/false bool if the server is waiting for players (which means the server is loaded)?

[upper vapor]

uh

subscribe to waiting for players..?

[fresh zenith]

yea ik i just wanted to know if there is an bool only for that.

[upper vapor]

there's also ServerLogs._state

all of these get set in ccm start (right before waiting for players)

actually

you may be able to check if the host exists

loading = Server.Host?.IsDestroyed ?? true

or

[fresh zenith]

trying that rq.

[upper vapor]

ReferenceHub._hostHub == null

[slow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/clever-girl-jurassic-park-gif-18793569

[upper vapor]

@slate flume finally they fixed admin toy sync vars? xd

[fresh zenith]

does labapi don't have a global config folder lol

[upper vapor]

how did the prev version get merged in the first place xd

[upper vapor]

only if you specify in the plugin that it should load from global configs

[slate flume]

No fucking clue
I stole the version @restive turret posted and it's worked fine for me, but I haven't tested WaypointToys yet

[fresh zenith]

so it should use the 27015 configs?

[upper vapor]

yeah, default is port-specific

[plain gazelle]

Where is a place i could hook into for Waypoints being destroyed?

[upper vapor]

if there's no ondestroy event in waypointtoy

you're cooked

[plain gazelle]

im deleting a gameobject with a waypoint as a child
if the waypoint has items inside of it, those also get deleted/disappear and i want to prevent that. rather have them become "loose" again

[upper vapor]

you need to create a custom component on the parent
when ondestroy is called, unparent the waypoints

[plain gazelle]

hmmmm

[upper vapor]

the ondestroy event cannot be used for moving the object itself out of the hierarchy

[plain gazelle]

If i have a ref to the WaypointToy, should i just unparent all children? Or do i need to look out for something?

[upper vapor]

probably yeah

you can do a foreach on the parent transform (for direct children only)

-# you need to cast to Transform manually cuz unity is really smart

[restive turret]

I cast calling the engine every frame!

[upper vapor]

we do that already probably 100s of times

[magic gate]

Don’t worry, I hate you sometimes as well. Especially when you asked for alerts syntax ❤️

[upper vapor]

thanks :3

well

at least i got you to earn your bread

[fresh zenith]

how do i set the IsTransparent value?

(never used that on a plugin lmao)

[upper vapor]

in the plugin class

override

[fresh zenith]

ah makes sense lmao

[spare zodiac]

can you get NetworkIdentity back out of uint?

[icy knoll]

uint being what exactly?

[spare zodiac]

net Id

[icy knoll]

Player.Get(netId).Identity

or smth

[icy knoll]

why not use netIdentity here?

[spare zodiac]

netId => NetworkBehaviour

[icy knoll]

you also have netIdentity

what are you tryna do?

[spare zodiac]

that is from NetworkBehaviour I'm trying to do it the opposite way from netId to NetworkBehaviour

so I'm asking if it's possible to create it out of netId

[icy knoll]

you cant make NetworkBehaviours

[spare zodiac]

there must be way to get NetworkBehavior out of netId

[icy knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static meteor]

:D

[restive turret]

41 well yeah

[hearty shard]

yum

[static meteor]

Usually my updates are within 3k additions or deletions

[royal mica]

those PRs are atrocious

[static meteor]

I love refactoring half a plugin for slightly better performance

[soft depot]

NetId corresponds to NetworkIdentity, NetworkBehaviour is a component on NetworkIdentity

[plain gazelle]

All PMER's SchematicSpawned events for my server fire twice whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
i hate this codebase
or its PMERs fault idfk

Is there an event that is called before WaitingForPlayers ?

MapGenerating or sth?

[static meteor]

Map generating is called when the map is generated

Probably around here [2025-10-07 15:50:32.766 -05:00] Scene Manager: Loaded scene 'Facility' [Assets/_Scenes/Facility.unity]

[soft depot]

doesn't happen for me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static meteor]

Glowy eyes

[cyan crown]

[plain gazelle]

Is this how i would change the skeleton disguise timer?

Do i need some resync call or sth?

-# Cant test atm ,_,

Also, any way of stopping/preventing the Scp3114 chatter from happening?

For our roleplay server it is a bit annoying x3

[static meteor]

Could try patching Scp3114VoiceModule.ProcessInputs

Wrong one

[plain gazelle]

this seems like a lead

[static meteor]

Scp3114VoiceLines.ServerPlayConditionally maybe

[plain gazelle]

trueeee

So if my conditions match, no voiceline should ever play... theoretically

[static meteor]

Assuming its synced

[plain gazelle]

New question, about waypoint toys
I saw something about "priority"
How can i make a waypoint toy i have, have higher priority over elevators? Like if i drive my cart with items on it into an elevator, they all start dropping and moving off of the cart

Also³, how could i make a gameobject / schematicobject be affected by the elevators waypoint?
Like, is there a way i can check if a Vector3 location is within the bounds of an elevator?

[static meteor]

Map.Elevators.Any(elevator => elevator.WorldSpaceBounds.Contains(position));

[static meteor]

Get the network identify of the elevator

[plain gazelle]

...for the priority?

?w?

ohhh its a float

So the elevators will have a certain NetworkPriority, and i need to set mine... higher?

[static meteor]

Might desync the players in the elevator

[plain gazelle]

The waypoint i want to change the priority on doesnt affect players

Patched the waypoint.add and fake synced bounds. Seems to work

[soft depot]

no only the toy has priority, all it does is make it more favorable for clients to pick said waypoint because they treat it closer than how it actually is and client prefers choosing closest waypoint I believe

so if you just crank NetworkPriority to 1000000000, all clients in the bounds of a waypoint will pick it

[spare zodiac]

thanks

[upper vapor]

NetworkIdentity.spawned

[upper vapor]

Lmfao

[upper vapor]

Stop using it

[upper vapor]

TransformWaypointFollower could work

(On the root toy)

[celest thorn]

Hello

[celest thorn]

How you doing?

[static meteor]

Mining

[celest thorn]

Subnautica?

[static meteor]

Space Engineers

[celest thorn]

Oh

My bad

[teal junco]

Just make a flag bruh

also im like 20% sure its your codebase, doesnt happen on mine

[upper vapor]

I was like
What are you engineering 😭

[restive turret]

Space

[upper vapor]

Yeah j realized

I fucking HATE discord

[restive turret]

Same

[celest thorn]

honestly thank god chatgpt exist

my fucking classes of math are impossible to understand

and thanks to this guy i can understand them

and not spend 20h understanding everything

its all theoretical math, why tf do i need to study that

[upper vapor]

What's the derivative of sin²(3x + π÷2)

[celest thorn]

bro i don't fucking know

im studying theoretical approach for like groups and shit

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

bro i don't fucking know either

[upper vapor]

Sobbing

[celest thorn]

i just know that the math im doing is theoretical and has no application

so why am i studying it

funny enough im bored in class and there are like algo that they put us and pretty much only 4/5 can develop so while im bored reading code that doesn't work for fun i just recode it to make it work in other programming languages like C

[static meteor]

Miner

[celest thorn]

guys how can i emulate lights from sl in unity normally without installing the fucking giga hdr

[static meteor]

Engineering

[upper vapor]

You need to install HDRP

An then configure it to match exactly what SL has

(You're done for)

[celest thorn]

bruh

can we fucking get those settings

out of this fucking game

its like a trial everytime

getting the light right

[upper vapor]

AssetRipper

[celest thorn]

it does have the HDPR thing?

what should i even search at that point?

[upper vapor]

Try it

[celest thorn]

like where it should be?
https://i.e-z.host/🐀/0gi6zwtt.png
Like here?

never used HDPR

[upper vapor]

Well

Export the project

[celest thorn]

bro it would take years

[upper vapor]

Create a Unitypackage from the assets and load it in an empty hdrp project

[upper vapor]

How do you expect to read the meta files without ripping the assets

There should be a volume defined somewhere but idk where

[celest thorn]

Shader?

[upper vapor]

I'm not even sure if AssetRipper can give you that properly

[upper vapor]

No

[celest thorn]

i don't think

because i cannot find it

even in the scene

[upper vapor]

It's not in the scene

It's in assets somewhere

Probably in the ScriptableObjects category

[celest thorn]

i found LightingDataAsset_2023_2_0_a19

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/j6cle9vx.png

[upper vapor]

There we do

Go

[celest thorn]

its for a room light...

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/h7akbmv3.png

[upper vapor]

Xd

[upper vapor]

Wait this is generated lighting data

That's for baked lights

[celest thorn]

yea...

[upper vapor]

Not an HDRP volume

What if you just export the project and search in Unity

[celest thorn]

Is it graphics Settings?

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/gr8tbe8k.png

NavMeshProjectSettings????? WHTA??

SL HAS NAVMESH???

[upper vapor]

Vine boom

[celest thorn]

i just see thousands of shaders under HDRP but nothing else

wait can you join vc?

i can show you+

[upper vapor]

I'm at the doctor

[upper vapor]

You're not looking for shaders

You're looking for HDRP volume

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/6a9x6dhc.png

this?

[upper vapor]

That yeah

[celest thorn]

its a mono

ITS IN IL

;(

[upper vapor]

It's a monobehaviour yeah

Crazy

[celest thorn]

No settings for us

[upper vapor]

You need to get its Metadata

And copy it into a volume in an hdrp project

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/ctnwzqrb.png

amazing data

[upper vapor]

Prefab instance lmao

[celest thorn]

bruh

;(

[upper vapor]

GL finding that xd

[celest thorn]

Its not in a dependency

so

where tf is this shit

[upper vapor]

Just export the project already and inspect things in Unity

[celest thorn]

im exporting it

[upper vapor]

I could check for you but no electricity at home

[celest thorn]

crazy

i have the internet of a potato

because my provider is scamming us

raising the prices saying you have "opticfiber" BRO I DON'T

[celest thorn]

now im changing my provider

to a new one

that they want us to have optic fiber and charge us free

which is crazy

[icy knoll]

i love having copper internet, so fast! /j

[celest thorn]

i live in the woods

[upper vapor]

IInternetProvider.Provider in class House has no setter

[celest thorn]

its incredible i have internet

funny enough my mobile data suck alot when im inside my house

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-warden-copper-golem-gif-4249204916827757688

[celest thorn]

but as soon as i step away and go to the street its fast asf

[upper vapor]

Use your phone as a relay

-# you need 2 antennas for thay

[celest thorn]

i pay the same amount for internet at my home than the one in my cell phone plan

my cell phone plan is like 200GB

a month

I can install RD2R if i want

but idk

[static meteor]

Boom
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215735674087538698/1425386760338149377/41CFFC1.MP4?ex=68e7665e&is=68e614de&hm=149bb5168b568ae5ae507d9f4c532003822ded03e007a1be53a22bc79f50825c&

[celest thorn]

Space terrorism

Space ISIS

[static meteor]

No im defending myself from terrorists

[celest thorn]

Oh so you are invading the terrorist???

this sounds like freedom

btw i did export the project

should it be in Assets\_Scenes\Facility

[tepid sluice]

it is const

😭

[celest thorn]

no const for you

[tepid sluice]

no

my const provider is proxy

[celest thorn]

oh lol

[tepid sluice]

[celest thorn]

IBypassGreatWallOfChina

btw am i the only one depending where i am my feeds change?

on instagram?

[tepid sluice]

[upper vapor]

Xd

[celest thorn]

bro i go to uni

its full of thirst traps

im at home

and i get like how to do your hairs

just alot of girly stuff and some memes

[tepid sluice]

spent 6 bucks on dinner

not bad ig

[celest thorn]

nah

good asf

its so funny how me and my friends feeds are totally different lol

he gets crazy shit like conspiracy theory, i get a ton of fem stuff

This is an example

[upper vapor]

Kill

[celest thorn]

bro its not even my fault

like i said idk why it happens

only when im in uni

[upper vapor]

Because

Ppl at unu

Are weird

(er than the rest)

[celest thorn]

i mean im the math and computer science section

so makes sense

[upper vapor]

Bruh

I'm surprised you haven't seen a fursuiter yet

Swipe typing: disorder

[celest thorn]

Nah they all stink asf

[upper vapor]

Xd

[upper vapor]

Only if they don't take care of it properly

And don't shower

[celest thorn]

my feed there is redpill and thirst trap

[celest thorn]

No i mean they stink

the guy that sits next to me

has the amount of braincel of a kid in a scooter at 3am drunk asf

[upper vapor]

Oh right, xd

[celest thorn]

this guy cannot understand jokes

nothing

like bro

[upper vapor]

Me when my classmate is late by 20 minutes (the train was only late 10 mins and he is radiating cigarettes)

[upper vapor]

He's not a joker

[celest thorn]

im late by 20 minutes sometimes because I LIVE IN A FOREST and there's no autobus going and the next city is 2h and 30m of walk

[upper vapor]

Unfortunate place to set case camp in

Base camp

[celest thorn]

and the autobus just goes from there like every 11am and i would need to spend a fortune like 13 euros every day + 5 euros for autobus in the city

[restive turret]

Me when I accidentally slept tru my class

[celest thorn]

lol

[upper vapor]

Xd

[celest thorn]

i have the one in the afternoon

[upper vapor]

Monthly pass

[celest thorn]

i spend the combined amount

[upper vapor]

Discounts for pupils

[celest thorn]

every month

we don't have them but for the city internal one yea

so yea you can see living in the woods is great if you wanna sleep but not for the amount of insects, cleaning and moving

[restive turret]

I didn't need to live there to know these

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

lol

[upper vapor]

So it's not as romantic as I imagined :(

[restive turret]

I mean most of the stuff is expected

[celest thorn]

i know

but i wasn't the one deciding sadly

[upper vapor]

1. Living

[celest thorn]

bro that the worst

ngl im hating uni because i need to go there and every day wait until 10pm

from 2pm to 10pm

[upper vapor]

What the funky

[celest thorn]

in one of the worst section of the city

[celest thorn]

my classes end at 7/8pm

and i need to wait for my dad like that everyday