plugins-dev-chat

[unique crane]

^

[upper vapor]

You could potentially spawn an invisible dummy there

Or with scale 0

[upper pike]

Wouldn't work in the dark

[upper vapor]

Give it a flashlight

[upper pike]

Wouldn't the light still show though?

[upper vapor]

Don't sync the Item

Give the Flashlight
Player.Inventory.SendItemsNextFrame = false

I'll have a look at Scp173ObserversTracker when the fuckass English lesson ends in the IT room

[upper pike]

Maybe they should change OnScp173AddingObserver so it would trigger if you look at 173 in the dark

[toxic rock]

Is there any way to disable Pickup physics?

[upper vapor]

Pickup.Rigidbody.isKinematic = true

I've heard it doesn't sync well since the last update

[toxic rock]

yes, this not working properly

[upper vapor]

Try to patch PickupStandardPhysics.ServerSendFreeze

[toxic rock]

okay, thanks

[upper vapor]

Np

[upper vapor]

okay so that doesn't work
neither does the fake flashlight
try spawing in a dummy with an actual synced flashlight and give it the invisible effect

[sinful bronze]

Patch lights off xD

[upper vapor]

client has to be aware too

[sinful bronze]

Remove client

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[restive turret]

Real

[sinful bronze]

No client no client side no problem

Maybe loud

[upper vapor]

True

[upper vapor]

You know what maybe that would work

[worn gull]

which submodule is that when 106 teleports with the map? I want to teleport 106 with plugin

[upper vapor]

HuntersAtlas

[worn gull]

Thanks

[upper vapor]

Np

[restive turret]

12000 euro / answer

[soft turtle]

Is it possible to get the SCP-3114 class from a player, like on Exiled?

[hearty shard]

player.RoleBase is Scp3114Role

[soft turtle]

How can I find the player who is being strangled by SCP-3114?

[hearty shard]

isnt that an event

[restive turret]

SyncTarget

[restive turret]

ye that

or

[hearty shard]

Scp3114Strangle module

[restive turret]

if (!Scp3114Role.SubroutineModule.TryGetSubroutine(out Scp3114Strangle strange))
return;
if (!strange.SyncTarget.HasValue)
return;
// my target =>
trange.SyncTarget.Value.Target

[hearty shard]

if (player.RoleBase is Scp3114Role scp3114 && scp3114.SubroutineModule.TryGetSubroutine(out Scp3114Strangle strangle))
            {
                if (strangle._syncTarget.HasValue)
                    strangle._syncTarget.Value.Target.playerStats.KillPlayer(new CustomReasonDamageHandler("e"));
            }

[soft turtle]

Thank you!

[teal junco]

did that work

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[toxic rock]

i found this somewhere here, and its works

[HarmonyPatch(
    typeof(PickupStandardPhysics), 
    nameof(PickupStandardPhysics.ServerSendFreeze), 
    MethodType.Getter)
]
internal static class PickupStandardPhysicsIsKinematicSyncPatch
{
    internal static void Postfix(PickupStandardPhysics __instance, ref bool __result)
    {
        __result = __result || __instance.Rb.isKinematic;
    }
}```

Pickup pickup = Pickup.Create(Interactor, schematic.Position + Item.Position, Quaternion.Euler(Item.Rotation));

pickup.Spawn();

pickup.Rigidbody.isKinematic = true;
pickup.PhysicsModule.ServerSendRpc(pickup.PickupStandardPhysics.ServerWriteRigidbody);

[upper vapor]

nice

[tepid sluice]

hallo cat

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[restive turret]

Hello Kitty

[tepid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-meow-are-you-kidding-me-are-you-kitten-me-right-meow-seriously-gif-27226081

[true cedar]

yea

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-charlie-silly-cat-cat-silly-cat-charlie-gif-53977203193393020

[mild ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-right-now-are-you-serious-gif-27236996

[upper vapor]

colon three

[hearty shard]

:3

[tepid sluice]

another 2 ez steal

[upper vapor]

opening brace followed by a semicolon

[celest thorn]

How is everyone doing :3

[tepid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1415710595331657749/tenor.gif

[true cedar]

3:

[cyan crown]

Pretty sigma

[celest thorn]

Nice

[tepid sluice]

sigma

[celest thorn]

:3

[tepid sluice]

is what

[cyan crown]

:3

[tepid sluice]

x3

[cyan crown]

x3j

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/44xg9uxp.png

[cyan crown]

50

🍍

[celest thorn]

🧹

[true cedar]

how are we all doing

[celest thorn]

bored

but good

[tepid sluice]

hello a popular, successful, but highly independent and self-raliant person

[cyan crown]

Hi :3

[celest thorn]

he is not popular

so not enough sigma

:3

[cyan crown]

😿

SadvixTV

[celest thorn]

guys and girls what is something i could do or learn :3

[upper vapor]

source generators

[celest thorn]

what is that???

[upper vapor]

you write code that writes code for you... kinda

[restive turret]

weavers

[celest thorn]

woah

[upper vapor]

anyá- nice

[celest thorn]

wait isn't labapi doing that?

for the custom handler thingy

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/tree/master/LabApi.SourceGenerators

[cyan crown]

Sleep

[upper vapor]

genius idea

[celest thorn]

nah

[true cedar]

write ruei for me

[celest thorn]

i don't like sleeping ;(

[celest thorn]

i already have enough pain in my body

[cyan crown]

To much sleep makes you taller

[tepid sluice]

still waiting for ruei v3

[celest thorn]

im 1.95 i don't wanna grow anymore please

[restive turret]

But i sleep 12 h a day and I'm still short

[cyan crown]

Noob

[upper vapor]

1.95 feet tall?

or 1 foot 95 inches

[tepid sluice]

no

[cyan crown]

😿

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

m

or 6'5 feets

[restive turret]

dm

[cyan crown]

6'7

[upper vapor]

you're a centimeter and 9.5 millimeters tall?

[celest thorn]

no

;(

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

i ate it

my bad

actually

i need a job

holy macaron

[tepid sluice]

evil

[celest thorn]

evil

not eve

[restive turret]

evilin

[hearty shard]

giggleshitter

[true cedar]

4 days

[celest thorn]

wtf

poor cat

[restive turret]

Until i blow up

[true cedar]

im kinda mad at myself cause i forgot to add something to ruei and it would take too long to add now

[cyan crown]

Giggle shitter😂

[tepid sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-car-garn-car-gif-garn47-car-gif-8655513820118585203

[celest thorn]

imagine if your parents named you "Giggleshitter" would you love it?

[hearty shard]

until you die due to lack of oxygen and never see the light of day again

[tepid sluice]

Add it

and i'll give you a rep

xDD

[restive turret]

How do you achieve that

[celest thorn]

the most useless shit ever

[hearty shard]

give them 45000 bucks

[tepid sluice]

💔

[hearty shard]

or give me it

[true cedar]

it was gonna be a thing where spectators automatically see the elements of the person they're spectatig

[hearty shard]

id love myself 45k

[celest thorn]

woah

thats crazy

[tepid sluice]

it

[restive turret]

🐢

[hearty shard]

b.....

[tepid sluice]

here you are

[upper vapor]

breathen't

[celest thorn]

meow

[tepid sluice]

neko

[celest thorn]

im not a neko ;(

[true cedar]

woof

[upper vapor]

bark

[celest thorn]

bau (thats how we imitate dog in italy)

[tepid sluice]

Im

UwU

[upper vapor]

hi UwU

[celest thorn]

OwO

[upper vapor]

why does it start with a b

you're just ripping off hungary smh

[celest thorn]

idk but sound makes sense

[upper vapor]

what dog says "bau"

😭

[celest thorn]

idk

[tepid sluice]

What axwabo mean

[celest thorn]

its something they make us learn in primary school

[celest thorn]

hi UwU

[tepid sluice]

NO

[celest thorn]

i wanna be cute :3

[true cedar]

わんわん！！！！！

[celest thorn]

wtf is this thing

who tf draw it

and thought "IT LOOKS CUTE"

bro its demonic

[upper vapor]

"i'm UwU"
"hi UwU"

[true cedar]

hey dont diss japanese it looks cool

[celest thorn]

its really weird

[upper vapor]

braille looks cool

[celest thorn]

and it looks demonic

[tepid sluice]

Japanese == Cute English

[true cedar]

ouch

[true cedar]

that's cause you're lame as fuck and can't read i

t

[upper vapor]

"water bottluh"

[celest thorn]

BRUH

[upper vapor]

what the fucky

[upper vapor]

wat da dog doin

[celest thorn]

ok this is the italian dog (or named the pimpa)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimpa

[true cedar]

you know scp sl might be like the most multicultural discord server

[celest thorn]

it looks weird asf

[tepid sluice]

I was wondering how the italian song like

[celest thorn]

which one?

[tepid sluice]

I used to translate a song and it makes me feel the Italian style

[tepid sluice]

not really

just in my mind italian songs mostly jazz

[celest thorn]

idk the only italian song i have in my playlist is this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoYw0LHEWLM&list=RDKoYw0LHEWLM&start_radio=1&pp=ygUSbGEgZ3VlcnJhIGRpIHBpZXJvoAcB

[true cedar]

you have a singular song in ur native language?

[celest thorn]

i don't listen to bella ciao because i find it disrespectful but i did sing it in the streets of budapest after finding fascist there

[celest thorn]

Yes

they are all rappers now

and suck ass

or all about love

[true cedar]

wow you must fucking hate t

it

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

I hate my country and especially politics

because people are ignorant asf

and cannot open more than a pack of pringles

and even that is considered alot

[upper vapor]

if you don't count magyar népdalok (hungarian traditional songs) then the situation is similar

[true cedar]

also listen to my playlist

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

excuse me

[true cedar]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7dMICsIYMWT5ZpkMZ9rnIb

[tepid sluice]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6dqOzmCsTtu3V99crMKOln?si=7d96ec47d0544c14

[upper vapor]

"use my library" ahh

[true cedar]

yea

[celest thorn]

ok i have 2 choices here to say

1. you are japanese
2. you love japan

[restive turret]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yr4DKIedcAD4av7wKzHRO?si=74c31a52a6504399

[true cedar]

okay unironically im not like

one of those "place, japan" people

[celest thorn]

never heard of this song and the words are like strange

[true cedar]

but all my song recommendations are japanese

[celest thorn]

its not italian for sure

[celest thorn]

i listen alot to old songs

[true cedar]

i have never played arknights but i have 3 songs from it lol

[tepid sluice]

old songs

huh

[celest thorn]

the oldest one is "I don't want to set the world on fire" from the Ink spots

that still baffles me that hitler or mussolini could've listen to that song

and im here listening to it

and chilling

[tepid sluice]

yea the music from them not bad fr

[true cedar]

someone doesn't listen to caveman banging drums

[celest thorn]

crazy

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/e7gtj2xv.png

This is my most recent songs

i've transfered from spotify to youtube

[true cedar]

ive started listening to a lot more vocaloid personally

[celest thorn]

but i have 451 songs

[tepid sluice]

462

mine

[celest thorn]

the song i love the most from a vocaloid which i didn't know its Machine Love

[true cedar]

i think i have 650

[true cedar]

kasane tetoooo

i love jamie p

her songs fucking rock

[celest thorn]

i found it one day while in the bus

and i loved it

didn't know it was from kasane teto until like 1 week ago

[true cedar]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9HUMT9F7baM

try this

[celest thorn]

let me check

[tepid sluice]

holyshit

[celest thorn]

ngl the model is crazy

god if its well done

im not a fan of the song

like i don't resonate with it

so

its not gonna be a hit

but

[hearty shard]

holy macaroni

[true cedar]

?

[celest thorn]

you know what else is a hit
https://youtu.be/WeNr-clG54U?list=RDWeNr-clG54U

God if i go back in time

when i listen to this

[tepid sluice]

iirc the creator is Chinese

[true cedar]

really?

i know nothing about them

[celest thorn]

crazy

btw paws

i know an ost that will make you cry

if you played this game

https://youtu.be/nr-cpmEb7KM?list=PLoqOgJJaN57YiiY-JrdSvBVCprMPednXl

[true cedar]

id also recommend https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_AjJZEcMdww

[celest thorn]

let me try

[true cedar]

damnnn small world

[celest thorn]

good song ngl

[tepid sluice]

yea

[true cedar]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0iVlSNpq8i8

[tepid sluice]

i just didn't expect that i can see it here

[true cedar]

are they super popular on

is it billibilli

[celest thorn]

under machine love i have this song
https://youtu.be/NTrm_idbhUk?list=RDNTrm_idbhUk

[tepid sluice]

8478k

views

[true cedar]

i love this song

[true cedar]

jesus

[tepid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472411666680905738/1420417975042834573/Looking.gif

[true cedar]

fascinating !

[teal junco]

would that be like a property you can set to a tag

[tepid sluice]

ill take a look if there is something else funny

[teal junco]

because i imagine not every hint is something specators need to know about

[true cedar]

it'd be a setting on Element

[hearty shard]

wake up

[true cedar]

like ReplicateToSpectators or something

[hearty shard]

paw

wake up

[true cedar]

hi

[true cedar]

how many views does rbf syndrome have

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WXh9MBd3YLU

[tepid sluice]

rbf is what

okay

lemme look

[celest thorn]

Really good song from a small artist
https://youtu.be/q0_aj5LQ9UM?list=RDq0_aj5LQ9UM
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VHePOb0tObo&si=56LTv03wyKMJ7XaH

Teto's song: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=acHZg34_O2c&si=6TANRJFI3ZrsJGvh

Personal favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3KIlTfYIb4&list=RDv3KIlTfYIb4&start_radio=1&pp=ygUMTG9vc2UgY2Fubm9uoAcB

[hearty shard]

do you glow in the dark

[celest thorn]

i found i have alot of vocaloid's songs

[fervent frigate]

@tepid sluice Congratulation! new mod :D

[tepid sluice]

ty!

[true cedar]

oh ur a mod now i didnt even realize

oh shit

[celest thorn]

I didn't even realize

i thought still in trial

[true cedar]

congrats please don't ban me

[tepid sluice]

after today, not anymore

UwU

[hearty shard]

r u a millionaire now

[warped prairie]

Welcome new mod

[celest thorn]

crazy

[tepid sluice]

might be mucher

[fervent frigate]

will you go on SL tomorrow? i want to look look ur new badge ^_^

[celest thorn]

i don't think they give badge

[true cedar]

i have a few more teto songs u all must listen to

[hearty shard]

i heard nw pays their mods really really good

[celest thorn]

lol

[celest thorn]

.

[fervent frigate]

i think have

[celest thorn]

try one of this lol

[true cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOJ5_IkUXY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvYL8u4p-aM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Ui7CzsAI8

[celest thorn]

btw answering your bio, no i cannot speak chinese, but i know your government blocked pyra lol

[tepid sluice]

you will get

tons of

air

[celest thorn]

last one describes my daily life

[fervent frigate]

what is Pyra?

[celest thorn]

you are saying it because the nda doesn't allow you to say it :trolling:

[hearty shard]

i love air

[tepid sluice]

yea

[celest thorn]

nah my website has a character and for what i understood it got flagged for that

[tepid sluice]

pretty fresh

[true cedar]

you don't deserve it

[celest thorn]

crazy

[tepid sluice]

then ill sign up nba

[fervent frigate]

idk

[celest thorn]

to the nba, are you tall and american?

[tepid sluice]

💔

[celest thorn]

people asked me if i wanted to do basket because im tall ;(

[tepid sluice]

like 180+?

[celest thorn]

im 1.95m

[tepid sluice]

wow

[celest thorn]

please kids be short

not tall

[tulip kiln]

Is this some kind of attack or have I goofed up hard?
[2025-09-26 17:25:02.127 +02:00] [STDOUT] [T25] [NM] DataReceived: bad! Expected Challenge was not received.
It's filling up my LA logs.

[celest thorn]

probably

an attack

is it spamming it?

or it was just one time?

[tulip kiln]

spamming it

[hearty shard]

@tepid sluice pls ban

[celest thorn]

99% an attack

[tulip kiln]

I don't see it on my local instance, which I think says enough

[celest thorn]

i've never seen this error but whenever you see bad! and from mirror === attack

[true cedar]

patch it and

just

hide the message

[celest thorn]

not a good idea

it can be useful

for infos

[true cedar]

wait

@celest thorn

[celest thorn]

yea?

[true cedar]

listen to the vanished people they're italian and one of my favorite bands

[celest thorn]

who?

can you link me one of their songs?

[true cedar]

they don't speak any italian whatsoever but

https://open.spotify.com/track/1Y0SesUrQ2MOvToRZ9S63E

https://open.spotify.com/track/75umJqvF6Xu5JGid0FwiXQ

[celest thorn]

Aww the title for this song is cute

its translatable to "Talk to me"

[true cedar]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STiiHsg17Fk

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/u14botoh.png

bruh

SL Soundtrack???

now

[tulip kiln]

Did anyone have an issue where randomly SSSS butons and dropdowns just "stop responding"?

[upper vapor]

#content-feed

[tulip kiln]

Like you set the setting on the client, but the server doesn't receive it.

[hearty shard]

guh?!

[upper vapor]

do you use secretapi

[tulip kiln]

I actually do use secretapi's implemenation of SSSS

[hearty shard]

uhhh

[tulip kiln]

but it started happening after an update today

[hearty shard]

update today?

[tulip kiln]

like update of my plugins

[hearty shard]

oh you mean a custom plugin

[tulip kiln]

sorry

[hearty shard]

what changed

[upper vapor]

git revert

[tulip kiln]

It's like a big content update, no way I'm reverting that on players xd

in terms of SSSS, nothing changed

On my local it works

[hearty shard]

what version of secretapi

2.0 full release ?

2.0 beta? or just 1.x

[tulip kiln]

I'll have to check

[hearty shard]

reminds me i should release a bugfix

[tulip kiln]

I borrowed it on June 20th, not sure which version was that

[upper vapor]

what the

that's like ancient 😭

you need to update & recompile

[tulip kiln]

Well it worked fine today 😭

[hearty shard]

june 15th released 1.1.2

[tulip kiln]

I don't know what happened

Did anything change in how base game handles things?

[hearty shard]

1.x technically should be stable but it hasnt been tested after 14.1.2 iirc

[upper vapor]

did you update to 14.1.4.1?

[tulip kiln]

what

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

[upper vapor]

the bugfix on early-server-build

[hearty shard]

we love the version number

[restive turret]

14.1.4.1 lel

[restive turret]

i like the
2025.09.16_13.26.53

[upper vapor]

that's not it

[tulip kiln]

I just noticed my local server has a newer build date

[upper vapor]

then whatever you did with your code broke stuff

[tulip kiln]

I'll recheck everything, but no SSSS was touched 😭

[hearty shard]

but yea

at some point you should update to 2.x since its maintained, but 1.x is considered stable

[celest thorn]

sl is like 079 it upgrades itself randomly

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

stinky slime

[restive turret]

no u r

[languid temple]

14.1.4 is out?

wtf

[true cedar]

ur like

2 weeks late

[tulip kiln]

Nevermind it appears half the server broke. I don't know what caused it, since my local instance runs perfectly fine. I think it may have to do with this? It only started spamming it after the update, which made me rethink if it's an attacker or did mirror shit itself.

[upper vapor]

yeah you're probably getting DDoSed xd

[upper vapor]

jóreggelt

-# good morning

[celest thorn]

gm

[tulip kiln]

Ok so I subscribed to Unity's logging event and found out that harmony fails patching due to this:

[2025-09-26 18:06:30.927 +02:00] Failed initializing harmony! Exception:
                                 HarmonyLib.HarmonyException: Patching exception in method static System.Boolean InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Modules.IReloadUnloadValidatorModule::ValidateReload(InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.Firearm firearm) ---> System.ArgumentException: Owner can't be an array or an interface.
                                    --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
                                   at RoleplayPack.RoleplayPack.Enable () [0x000e3] in D:\Documents\VS2019\RoleplayPack\RoleplayPack\RoleplayPack.cs:81 (ignore this, this is where the logging method is placed)

But it works perfectly on my local server! Why? It targets a static method, not a local interface method

oh wait

I updated harmony locally a while back

With updated harmony it works

I hate dependency issues

[upper vapor]

[tulip kiln]

yeah I feel stupid now

[upper vapor]

at least they're not attachment issues

[languid temple]

jólvan na van fontosabb dolgom is mint ezt figyelni xd

[upper vapor]

najóvan

[true cedar]

chat i have bad news

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[true cedar]

i think theres an intrinsic limit to how many characters tmp can handle

or at least a limit to how many characters together it can handle

[icy knoll]

unity! fuck yeah!

[upper vapor]

and i'm not surprised

[hearty shard]

ur probably not meant to create an entire UI in 1 tmp

[true cedar]

its kinda weird bc its very sudden

[upper vapor]

yeah

[true cedar]

i hate git so fucking much

[hearty shard]

i could laugh

[upper vapor]

sounds like...

a skill issue

-# never had this with Rider

[true cedar]

im using github desktop so

[upper vapor]

try not to laugh challenge

[true cedar]

holy shit

git is such an awful piece of software

[grand flower]

I did think about using Luau

Still leaning more towards Lua

Also doesn't Luau have some performance improvements that makes JIT less useful

Maybe I will

I'm using an existing plugin for Unreal that has Lua and modifying it but it's messy

and annoying

Might just write my own from the ground up

Also apparently it does

Worth noting is that Luau is focused on, first and foremost, stable high performance code in interpreted context. This is because JIT compilation is not available on many platforms Luau runs on, and AOT compilation would only work for code that Roblox ships (and even that does not always work).

Having said that, Luau has been updated to include an optional JIT component for x64 and arm64 platforms.

Not automatic, you have to mark functions to be jitted

but it does

[true cedar]

i guess i broke my commit history

FUCK

[grand flower]

how

[true cedar]

github

and git

[grand flower]

I haven't managed that in the past 10 years

How did you do it

[true cedar]

i was trying to fix something

because again

git is an awful piece of shit software AAAA

[grand flower]

I'm leaning towards skill issue in this scenario

[warped prairie]

Game recognizes game

[true cedar]

i fixed it but

[warped prairie]

Lel. I feel you dw

[upper vapor]

that's what i'm saying!!

[grand flower]

Guess I'm making a Luau plugin for my project

Might be a good idea considering it seems more game dev oriented than Lua

At least from what I'm reading

[hollow remnant]

hello guys!
why this WaveUpdateMessage.ServerSendUpdate(new NtfSpawnWave(), UpdateMessageFlags.Trigger); crash my server?

[grand flower]

show callstack

logs

[hollow remnant]

none logs

idk why

[unique crane]

Why are you creating new spawn wave?

That crashes your server

[hearty shard]

get the existing wave, not create new

[hollow remnant]

I already asked how to make a wave effect, they told me this

[hollow remnant]

hmm, how?

[hearty shard]

RespawnWaves.PrimaryMtfWave

exists

[unique crane]

RespawnWaves.PrimaryMtfWave.PlayRespawnEffect()

[hearty shard]

its nullable though so ?.PlayRespawnEffect()

[hollow remnant]

are this works correctly?

[upper vapor]

that should work

[hearty shard]

also

apparently mc shulkers are considered golems

[upper vapor]

mine your own business

[hearty shard]

u stink

[upper vapor]

i know

[hearty shard]

oh okay

[upper vapor]

"i think somebody has that mace"

[grand flower]

Luau doesn't provide a way to switch its built-in optimized vectors to use doubles rip

might have to fork it

[swift nexus]

@celest thorn when you get the chance, send me the updated description of https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/2005

[celest thorn]

Just add on top that it needs to be done on player dying

[swift nexus]

👍

[celest thorn]

and another thing i probably should mention

[true cedar]

chat

[celest thorn]

that could be another way

[true cedar]

how do u get the oen way ping

[hearty shard]

the what

[true cedar]

or just the ping

[celest thorn]

is like you spawn instantly and then after 2s you spawn again while dying

[true cedar]

of someone

[hearty shard]

uhhh mirror has it somewhere

[true cedar]

does it store it

[hearty shard]

Server.Host!.ConnectionToClient.lastPingTime

[true cedar]

no thats when it last send a ping message

not the ping

[hearty shard]

oh

hmmm

[true cedar]

ughhhhhhhhh

don't tell me i need to store it myself

[hearty shard]

it is there somewhere

[true cedar]

r u sure

[slate flume]

Does burned affect explosion damage?

[hearty shard]

ive seen it before

[upper vapor]

double shift
"ping"

[slate flume]

Like if I explode two grenades back-to-back, is that going to do 600 damage or 675 damage

[upper vapor]

i think so

[hearty shard]

LiteNetLib4MirrorServer.GetPing(Server.Host!.Connection.connectionId); @true cedar

[grand flower]

Considering the effect is applied at the time of the damage, the second grenade might do more damage

[true cedar]

damn nice

[hearty shard]

all damage is multiplied

[grand flower]

You could just set the health of a player to 1000 hp, detonate the first grenade, print the new health in the damage event (and reset to 1000hp) and see how much damage the second does

[hearty shard]

doesnt matter what damage source

[grand flower]

I don't think that's what was asked

It's about if the Burned effect would be applied and active for the second grenade

Assuming they both blow up on the same frame

Which it probably would

[hearty shard]

ig it technically depends on whether the grenade reached the end of the damage code before the other grenade does its thing and then also gets to the same spot and then they have to both apply damage before the other burned is applied

[grand flower]

They're not multithreaded

Unless the grenade explodes instantly due to the first, I doubt you'll miss the Burned effect

and even in that scenario I feel like it wouldn't matter

[upper vapor]

1st grenade processes, then 2nd renade processes
the processing includes the effect application

[hearty shard]

yea ill be honest youll be burned

yeah

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252586517948272650/1372926584620580894/togif-23.gif

[hearty shard]

itd only be the other if you got multithreaded

which..

yk

[upper vapor]

sometimes i get a unity funny thingy called "root gets updated randomly between the updates of multiple children"

[slate flume]

Dope

[grand flower]

would be weird, and wouldn't work anyway considering you'd be calling game thread methods on another thread lol

[slate flume]

Follow-up question if it's alright

[grand flower]

no not alright

fuck you

/s

[hearty shard]

yea

[true cedar]

fuck you /srs

[slate flume]

Shit

[hearty shard]

😭

[slate flume]

God damnit

[grand flower]

ask away

[slate flume]

Does pink candy apply the burned effect too?

[upper vapor]

yes

[slate flume]

Fire

Noted

[hearty shard]

its just an explosion

[upper vapor]

it's just a regular grenade explosion

[hearty shard]

same code

[upper vapor]

ye

[true cedar]

chat i need to figure out how to like get the offset between two times but for the client

[hearty shard]

yummy grenades

[grand flower]

Asked the Luau github repo if it'd be easy to make it support native double precision vectors

[true cedar]

do i just use Time.time + player.ping

[grand flower]

rtt / 2 is an acceptable approximation

[true cedar]

yea but like

[hearty shard]

which is what ping gives

or at least the one from mirror

[grand flower]

depends if time is synced

might not be

[upper vapor]

are you doing animated parameter time prediction

[true cedar]

how the fuck did u know

[upper vapor]

what else would you use that for in the context of hints

[grand flower]

@true cedar NetworkTime.time

[true cedar]

thats true

[grand flower]

from Mirror

https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/manual/guides/time-sync

[true cedar]

well the issue is like

[grand flower]

then again considering you don't have access to the clientside

I feel like what you're trying to do is pretty useless

Since that's where you'd do so

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[true cedar]

huh

[grand flower]

You want the animations to match on all clients right

[upper vapor]

she wants to send parameters so they're continuous

[true cedar]

not really? kind of?

they*

[grand flower]

explain what you're trying to do

[hearty shard]

can we kill someone

[true cedar]

if you send an AnimatedParamter it's an animationcurve

[upper vapor]

i forgor mb

[hearty shard]

preferably not me

[true cedar]

but every time you send the hint

the animationcurve resets

[grand flower]

so you want to know approximately where the client is

[true cedar]

so ideally you'd store when you first added the hint so that every time you resend the hint you can just add in that offset

[grand flower]

right

[true cedar]

but the issue is ping

[grand flower]

I'll be honest you're unlikely to get it perfect, but for as close as possible then yeah use player ping

[true cedar]

my solution is just to add the current ping to the time offset

[grand flower]

This is something you'd need client access or have clients use some predicted time already (ask NW perhaps) to make it happen

Likely still going to be visible since it's affected by so much more than ping

but better than nothing

[hearty shard]

yummers

[true cedar]

what the fuck

[hearty shard]

shhh

[true cedar]

why is ping an int

[grand flower]

what class

[true cedar]

NetPeer

im guessing its in ms

[grand flower]

sec

[upper vapor]

read the code

[true cedar]

it is

[grand flower]

yep

lmk how it looks when you've done this, i'm curious

you'll probably have to use some software to fake lag though

[upper vapor]

so much pain just because we can't create TextMeshProUGUIs on the client

[true cedar]

now do i use Time.time or Time.timeAsDouble

[hearty shard]

well well well

[upper vapor]

timeAsDouble

In almost all cases, you should use the timeAsDouble equivalent over time.

[true cedar]

thats what i was thinking

[upper vapor]

are you

[true cedar]

no

i dont think

[upper vapor]

you aren't?

[true cedar]

nope

[upper vapor]

then who is

[slate flume]

Well fuck you too

Who was gonna tell me

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

[hearty shard]

the sky

[grand flower]

doesn't matter

not for SL really

unless Time.time isn't reset between rounds

if it isn't, then rip

[upper vapor]

the docs say you should use timeAsDouble

[grand flower]

Unity should just get rid of floats

[hearty shard]

its time spent in application no ?

[grand flower]

then rip

[upper vapor]

pffffft imagine
imagine if positions above 100,000 wouldn't show a warning and prevent you from moving the object in the editor (with the handles)

[true cedar]

Time.time is reset across rounds

[hearty shard]

it is ???

[true cedar]

99% sure

[hearty shard]

The time at the beginning of the current frame in seconds since the start of the application

[true cedar]

huh

maybe its better to use timeSinceLevelLoadAsDouble

[hearty shard]

probably!!!

[upper vapor]

genius

[grand flower]

#define UE_OLD_WORLD_MAX            2097152.0                        /* UE4 maximum world size */
#define UE_OLD_HALF_WORLD_MAX        (UE_OLD_WORLD_MAX * 0.5)        /* UE4 half maximum world size */
#define UE_OLD_HALF_WORLD_MAX1        (UE_OLD_HALF_WORLD_MAX - 1)        /* UE4 half maximum world size minus one */

#define UE_LARGE_WORLD_MAX            8796093022208.0                    /* LWC maximum world size, Approx 87,960,930.2 km across, or 43,980,465.1 km from the origin */
#define UE_LARGE_HALF_WORLD_MAX        (UE_LARGE_WORLD_MAX * 0.5)        /* LWC half maximum world size */
#define UE_LARGE_HALF_WORLD_MAX1    (UE_LARGE_HALF_WORLD_MAX - 1)    /* LWC half maximum world size minus one */

imagine not supporting 87 million kilometers

[upper vapor]

I KNOWWW

😭😭😭😭

objects already start to glitch out severely after about 30km from 0,0,0

[grand flower]

kek

[upper vapor]

ofc there will always be precision errors but it's really bad at 70km

[grand flower]

yeah

Don't have to worry about precision errors in Unreal anymore which is nice

[hearty shard]

why

[upper vapor]

"move the map, not the player"
uh thanks nope

[grand flower]

UE5 switched to double precision for everything

[hearty shard]

ohhh

i see

[upper vapor]

a blessing from the lord

[grand flower]

Time, positions, shaders, you name it, it's double precision now

Took them a shit ton of work, but it was nice to see

[hearty shard]

bbbut

floats :(

actually why is float the standard in unity

[true cedar]

unity

[hearty shard]

good point

[grand flower]

tbh it was for all engines

[hearty shard]

i mean

[grand flower]

But with modern hardware you really don't care much about that

[hearty shard]

i use float only

because of unity

[grand flower]

If the engine uses float there's no point in using double in your code

[hearty shard]

thats where i got it from iirc

good point

[grand flower]

won't affect much other than unnecessary conversion and memory usage

[upper vapor]

s&box uses floats too
-# probably cuz source

[grand flower]

yeah source still uses floats

which is fair again

The engine's not built for giant levels

[true cedar]

float is kind of the default cause 95% of the time you don't need double precision but also doubles often have the same performance as float

[grand flower]

Yep

[upper vapor]

but i want my map to have a 150km radius

[hearty shard]

well

[grand flower]

Barely saw any difference in performance with the double usage in UE, and while it does increase bandwidth usage, really not enough to care

[hearty shard]

ur ax

and not real

[grand flower]

You can always compress your vectors if you want to

[hearty shard]

make it into bytes

[grand flower]

right, maybe I should also add some sort of world marker

where the player's position would always be relative to...

[hearty shard]

well

[grand flower]

what an amazing idea

[hearty shard]

sl does ushort

[grand flower]

kill

[true cedar]

god i fucking hate the c style names for primitives

[upper vapor]

relative positioning

[hearty shard]

what is it

[upper vapor]

m_?

i agree

[true cedar]

n olike

[upper vapor]

stupid piece of shit

[true cedar]

short/int/long

etcc

[upper vapor]

ah

skill issue

do you want

NonNegativeWholeNumberOf2Bytes?

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-murder-sense-tingling-uh-oh-gif-15207053

[true cedar]

rust (the perfect language) does it like

i16 or u32 or etc

[hearty shard]

what the hell

[upper vapor]

iDisagree

https://tenor.com/view/tim-cook-tim-cook-apple-cant-wait-gif-21243672

[grand flower]

boomers

I like Unreal's code conventions

No abbreviation allowed

[hearty shard]

Integer32Bit

[grand flower]

no it's still int32

[upper vapor]

ThirtyTwoBitInteger

[grand flower]

since they have platform typedefs to make your code easy

but

you're not allowed to abbreviate variables/member names

class names

etc

which is sweet, i like readability

[upper vapor]

wdym not allowed to

[hearty shard]

what actually does do this in SL i mean

theres

FpcRole

[true cedar]

i think this is dumb

especially if its something commonly used

[grand flower]

it's really not when you have giant ass codebases

[hearty shard]

FirstPersonCharacterRole

my beloved

[grand flower]

I'd name that CharacterRole

[true cedar]

i think just "never abbreviate" when ur using stuff is like

[hearty shard]

but its first person specifically

[upper vapor]

but it's first person 🤓 ☝️

[hearty shard]

PlayerRoleBase is CharacterRole

[grand flower]

FirstPersonCharacterRole then

[hearty shard]

which actually

[grand flower]

no biggie

[upper vapor]

i have a solution

PhysicalRole

[hearty shard]

SL does Base after every abstract class

[grand flower]

or that

No Base in abstract classes

[hearty shard]

which is something i stopped doing a week into learning C#

[grand flower]

you just mark them abstract

[slate flume]

Fire

[upper vapor]

what

oh like

naming

[hearty shard]

ye

[grand flower]

no likey unless there's a good reason to

I just mention it's the base in comments

[hearty shard]

AbstractPlayerRole

honestly

i was expecting this to be Base or smth

arson >>>

[grand flower]

that's what I do

[hearty shard]

Agahahaa

[hearty shard]

guess what this is

[grand flower]

what da actual hell

[hearty shard]

Who Died And How

[upper vapor]

water dispenser after halftime

[upper vapor]

REAL

[grand flower]

why didnorthwood add-the hecking-relative-positioning-system

[upper vapor]

do you have moleculeserver

and atomserver

and particleserver

[upper vapor]

and quarkserver

and stringserver

[grand flower]

mitochondriaserver

[upper vapor]

xd

[hearty shard]

this is what happens when you have 5 ppl on a project with various levels of naming

i would not have called it WDAH

or ModThings but

😭

[upper vapor]

"levels of naming" is a crazy statement

[grand flower]

also this is why we don't do abbreviations

[hearty shard]

its fair

[grand flower]

that's the codebase at work and it's missing all of our plugin source

that's only code

[hearty shard]

wait

[true cedar]

yea but if you have somethign thats used by like

everything

[hearty shard]

that reminds me

i should beg these guys to work on this again

but its for a dead game

so nuh uh

[grand flower]

add this, that's just plugin source

[sinful bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-corn-milho-gato-gif-13326045643921456022

[hearty shard]

corn

[upper vapor]

vile creature

[grand flower]

but yeah I get murderous in code reviews when someone

• does not name their function accurately to what it does
• does not comment
• has a bunch of magic numbers or abbreviated variables

[hearty shard]

gigl

[slate flume]

Just had someone complain to me that I don't make changes to my plugin fast enough so I had to remind them that I don't get paid and that I only do this cause I want to lmao

I'm sorry my life doesn't revolve around you

[hearty shard]

i wish i got paid

[upper vapor]

erm actually you're obligated to work on this because you said you do!!1!1!

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-crocodile-animal-funny-shut-up-gif-10619897787821870357

[slate flume]

Lmao that's pretty much what it was

You keep saying you will make stuff but then just never end up doing it-
Bro stfu I push updates at a minimum once a week

[upper vapor]

and when you have a request for them, it takes months to process

[slate flume]

I have a whole document of shit I'm gonna add, I'm sorry I can't fit in this one change you recommended 2 days ago

[upper vapor]

like
"please change the wording of the pinned announcement for staff because it's outdated and it's been outdated for months"
reply: "that is at the bottom of my priority list rn"

[slate flume]

Literally the change they requested was that I change the rarity of one item

[upper vapor]

can you configure that
i swear if it's a config option

[slate flume]

I can configure it lol

[hearty shard]

do you like your stuff hard coded or everything in a config

[slate flume]

I've got more pressing matters at the moment than debating with you about changing an item
I've got, you know, entire overhauls that I'm currently working on?

[upper vapor]

depends on whether i feel like making it configurable

[hearty shard]

i hard code

[slate flume]

uint importantConstant = 18537

[restive turret]

what about decimals 16 bytes

[slate flume]

We should just use longs for everything

[upper vapor]

"oh yeah rework that system, that should be your #1 priority"
"actually nvm just do a small fixup so you have to switch branches and then merge the branches and end your life"

[hearty shard]

unless its stuff that i need to not share like a code

[slate flume]

LITERALLY

[restive turret]

no, its UInt256.MaxValue

[slate flume]

I mean like I'm part-way through adding a new ability mechanic and keybind to use with different items and you're telling me I should drop all of that, go to an older branch, make the change, and then push it
All because you want one item to be 6% more rare?

Are we serious right now

[hearty shard]

slime boy can u fix

[slate flume]

I told them I'm not making their change because I'm already reworking the entire spawn mechanics for custom items and they said

has it been reworked yet though? no
So I just hit 'em with the
No it hasn't, but adding extra shit to the pile is not going to make it happen any faster now is it?

[upper vapor]

see

the more you annoy someone

the more they want to do what you told them to do

-# more often than not, it does not work that way

[hearty shard]

axe can you remake SL in assembly

[upper vapor]

no

[hearty shard]

please

[upper vapor]

i require a very specific payment

[hearty shard]

$-50

[upper vapor]

you don't get to decide the payment i want

[hearty shard]

i do

[upper vapor]

that's what you're supposed to say on your wedding day

[unique crane]

what

[hearty shard]

good point

pay for my marriage then

[upper vapor]

"i do"

why would i

[unique crane]

your marrying eve?

[hearty shard]

no

[upper vapor]

ah hell nawh

[unique crane]

thank god

[hearty shard]

im happily taken

WHAT

[slate flume]

TRUEEE

[hearty shard]

david ur rude

[slate flume]

This is why I yell at customer service workers

[unique crane]

Rip that person

XDDD

[upper vapor]

i'm not a girl liker

[hearty shard]

what the HELL

[upper vapor]

they're perfect matches

both evil

[unique crane]

Eve and Evil

[upper vapor]

both love attention

[hearty shard]

shes great

i love her

[unique crane]

the perfect match

[upper vapor]

real

[hearty shard]

GUH

[upper vapor]

REAL

[hearty shard]

yall are mean to me

[unique crane]

And you are to us

:3

[hearty shard]

noo

im the best

dude i hate being named eve for one reason

[cyan crown]

:3

[hearty shard]

"adam and eve"

[upper vapor]

are we gonna change the name system or wtv
if one takes up the other's name then it's e -> il
Eve Something and Evil Something

[hearty shard]

whoever made named adam and eve that needs to explode

[cyan crown]

i'm speech bubbling that david

[unique crane]

Thats like the last thing I would think about

[upper vapor]

tell that to someone who has been dead for millennia

[hearty shard]

i will

[upper vapor]

colon three

uwuwuwuwuwuwuw

[unique crane]

deep fake

generative ai used

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431901717429354500/1421227709199286423/watermark.gif

coding got to him guys

[upper vapor]

why does not include the reply to "you are evil"

[cyan crown]

i think he uses vs code😳

[upper vapor]

or what was it

"you are mean"

[cyan crown]

😿 rip david fly high

[upper vapor]

:(

just use neovim

[unique crane]

????

VS 2022

[upper vapor]

you think but you don't know

should be the other way aruond

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-laughing-rage-bait-gif-8366393814504091925

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143290158007980222/1381527653953310730/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

Flight reacts

[true cedar]

u got to choose ur name dude

[upper vapor]

Noooo poor Alvin

[hearty shard]

i love it

its just when ppl are weird and make adam and eve reference to me and anyone named adam in chat

and its so fucking weird

[unique crane]

rename yourself to glados

matching personality

[hearty shard]

what the hell

[true cedar]

rename urself to bitch

cause ur a bitch

[upper vapor]

Rename yourself to null so everyone crashes and dies

[slate flume]

True

[hearty shard]

ur half a bitch

[slate flume]

[true cedar]

this would go hard on r/programmerhumor

[hearty shard]

paw ur a dog, but not a female
im a female but not a dog

so like

nuh uh

get away

[true cedar]

okay but

[upper vapor]

Too bad I don't redd it

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[hearty shard]

face reveal?

[upper vapor]

I was gonna say something

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479