plugins-dev-chat

[celest thorn]

what the fuck?

[royal mica]

Will this be late as well

[upper vapor]

yes

very much

40 km/h vmax

[royal mica]

we need MÁV app on the chaos card

[upper vapor]

-# per schedule

[upper vapor]

XXXXXDDDDDDDDDD

[upper vapor]

what what the fuck

[celest thorn]

asking do spaces be count?

like if i do spaces?

[upper vapor]

you can use regular spaces and the space tag too

[celest thorn]

i do wonder tho

what if

i make like a massive

move it out of screen

and just position it there

and rotate it

[upper vapor]

what

is this with hints or text toys

[celest thorn]

█ using this

[celest thorn]

hints

[upper vapor]

well you can't rotate hints

so

[celest thorn]

yes you can

[upper vapor]

or text with textmeshpro in general

[upper vapor]

sushalombatta

[celest thorn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.textmeshpro@4.0/manual/RichTextRotate.html

[sinful bronze]

this is eric's toy

no questions....

[upper vapor]

S40

[royal mica]

yes

[royal mica]

oooh cabinets

[upper vapor]

how did you want to rotate the entire thing though

[sinful bronze]

yes cabinets

[celest thorn]

no i will place a hint just remote

and make it massive

[upper vapor]

oh you want a gigantic full thingy

[celest thorn]

so it doens't collide with anything

[upper vapor]

and rotate that

omg

[celest thorn]

because RUEI

doesn't take in account that

🧠

[celest thorn]

Sl does support the alpha tag??

[upper vapor]

yea

[celest thorn]

it doesn't work

[upper vapor]

it has to be hex

alpha=#ff

[celest thorn]

<alpha=#66>

like in the example

and i've set a color

<alpha=#66><color=#808080>text</color></alpha>

[upper vapor]

why not set the alpha in the color

[celest thorn]

Can you???

how?

[upper vapor]

you add the alpha after rgb

it's rgba

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/g8ei5982.png

it works

[upper vapor]

insane

[celest thorn]

The hints are seperate not one

it took alot

but its really cool

because you can make alot of shit

like blindfold

[upper vapor]

blinded effect:

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-24496241

[celest thorn]

nah you can make it cooler

like blood effect

and other stuff

[upper vapor]

hemorrhage

[cyan crown]

Hi Zerotwo

Bad timing but thoughts on this shit

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[celest thorn]

Looks good

[cyan crown]

Thanks but what about sound?

[celest thorn]

Seems good if you are trying to make like a facility

which doesn't feel metalic

but more stale

[cyan crown]

True im making a underground facility

That area is meant to be a underground construction zone

[rough tundra]

Guys, I've got a small and basic question, how to add an item to someone's inventory?
This doesn't seem to work

ev.Player.AddItem(ItemType.KeycardJanitor);

[upper vapor]

that's how you do it

[hearty shard]

when do you do this

[rough tundra]

in an OnSpawn function

[upper vapor]

right

[hearty shard]

use ChangedRole

[rough tundra]

do I need to delay that a lil bit?

hmm alr

[upper vapor]

^

[rough tundra]

thx

[hearty shard]

the spawn one is only called in specific conditions

that i do not remember

[upper vapor]

spawned is called when the position is being set
the inventory might be cleared and reset afterwards

[hearty shard]

oh right

[hearty shard]

and yea inventory is done on PlayerRoleManager.OnRoleChanged event

which is actually a different spot than the basegame event

but ya:

• pos set (so Spawned event, if applicable)
• role basegame role changed event -> set loadout
• labapi role changed event

[restive turret]

There is an event that do fillloadout

Or something

[pallid summit]

is there a simple way to check if someone died to fall damage, Tesla Gate, off map death etc?

[hearty shard]

UniversalDamageHandler

[celest thorn]

and then check for translations

[hearty shard]

if (damageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universal && universal.TranslationId == DeathTranslations.Falldown.Id)

tesla is there too afaik

not every death reason is in there tho

[pallid summit]

just want to see if a zombie is commiting suicide

thanks!

[hearty shard]

Tesla Falldown Crushed

[pallid summit]

thanks, that helps allot

Something like this would work?

private bool IsDeathPremature(PlayerDeathEventArgs ev)
{
    var player = ev.Player;

    if (ev.DamageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universal)
    {
        var prematureDeaths = new HashSet<byte>
        {
            DeathTranslations.Falldown.Id,
            DeathTranslations.Tesla.Id,
            DeathTranslations.Crushed.Id

        };

        if (prematureDeaths.Contains(universal.TranslationId))
        {
            return true;
        }
    }
    return false;
}

[hearty shard]

theres no need to create a new hashset every time the method is called

but yes should be fine

[pallid summit]

ah true, thanks for the feedback

[restive turret]

and you dont need to guard the if statement since returns

static readonly HashSet<byte> prematureDeaths = new 
{
    DeathTranslations.Falldown.Id,
    DeathTranslations.Tesla.Id,
    DeathTranslations.Crushed.Id
};
private bool IsDeathPremature(PlayerDeathEventArgs ev)
{
    return ev.DamageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universal && prematureDeaths.Contains(universal.TranslationId);
}

[hearty shard]

also uhhh

var player = ev.Player; why?

[restive turret]

idk

[hearty shard]

is ev.Player that hard to type 😭

[pallid summit]

legacy code

[restive turret]

zombie check i presume?

[hearty shard]

ev.Player.Role is 1 line rather than 2

[pallid summit]

was trying different things, forgot it was there

[hearty shard]

fair enough

[pallid summit]

already did a zombie check before

basically my idea is to give doc a buff if a zombie suicides

[restive turret]

and in that state you can replace the event arg with just (this DamageHandler dmg) or smth

and make statis i guess

idk

[pallid summit]

anyways, thanks guys, I appreciate the help. First time coding a plugin so still a lot of figuring out

[lethal cradle]

does anyone know if it'd be possible to enable vr support for the game without having to rebuild the entire project with openxr

just simple projection of the game into vr

[icy knoll]

not via the server no

[lethal cradle]

i meant locally

[icy knoll]

and client modding is against eula

so we cant tell you

[lethal cradle]

aw man

that's unfortunate

wonder if it'd be possible to convince whoever is the project lead (i assume hubert?) to add headset projection support

[hearty shard]

adding vr support would be crazy

I dont think they will

[lethal cradle]

adding simple support to simply display the image on headsets connected to your pc is really simple

its basically built into unity

[hearty shard]

however

Sl isnt a vr game

[lethal cradle]

yeah

[hearty shard]

in the slightest

[icy knoll]

networking will have to be redesigned

so

[lethal cradle]

nono

it changes nothing for the game

[icy knoll]

there will be no body movements 😭

[lethal cradle]

yeah

[icy knoll]

there is no point making a k&m vr game, nobody will play that 😭

[lethal cradle]

just being able to use a headset instead of a monitor

with 3d perception

[lethal cradle]

i mean it should take like 5 minutes to install the package

but idk what the complications would be with how the game is managed

it is also very trippy controlling where you look with mnk while wearing a headset

rather silly even

wait what scripting backend does sl use

mono or il2cpp?

[hearty shard]

Mono for server

Il2cpp for client

[lethal cradle]

okay then there should be no problems with it

[hearty shard]

what

[lethal cradle]

idk why but for some reason vr projection is very buggy in mono

[hearty shard]

oh

[lethal cradle]

yeah i have no idea why'

runs fine on the editor but if you build with mono it just doesnt work

[hearty shard]

interesting indeed

u sure thats a unity issue and not yours?

[lethal cradle]

honestly no idea

i spent like a week trying to fix it before giving up and just switching to il2cpp and it just worked

may just be an issue with my specific unity version

[restive turret]

Lel

Unity skill issue

[lethal cradle]

frfr

could just be a bug since my project was on a pretty early unity 6 version

wait the game is on hdrp right?

[grand flower]

i think so

[lethal cradle]

interesting

wonder why they went with HDRP instead of URP

The game doesn't really seem like it needs any of the super high end graphical features of HDRP

[grand flower]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal cradle]

[true cedar]

also u pinged the wrong acc but ummm

i dont know if i can feasibly make it work

try closing the mark whenever there's a line break

[slate flume]

Lmao what

What world are we living in

[hearty shard]

This one

[true cedar]

thats my alt

[slate flume]

Why do you need an alt

[true cedar]

why do the flowers need such beautiful pedals

why do the crickets need to sing

its just the natural order of things

[slate flume]

No

[hearty shard]

[grand flower]

Unreal Engine 5.7 can't come out fast enough

namespace support 🤤

[hearty shard]

Guh

[grand flower]

kinda tiny but it'll be super nice to have

[restive turret]

Finally not everything will be I'm no namespace

Wait in c++ you can create your own

Or is the engine getting namespaces?
Like
ue::UObject

[grand flower]

You'll be able to use namespaces on engine exposed stuff

namespace MyGame
{
  USTRUCT(BlueprintType)
  struct MYGAME_API FMyStruct
  {}
}

UHT yells at you if you try to do it right now

[hearty shard]

Lmao

[restive turret]

Ah lel

[grand flower]

it'll be nice cause right now I do AMyGamePawn, AMyGameGameMode etc

gets annoying

especially on some more low level stuff I'm writing

[restive turret]

Real

[grand flower]

It'll be nice to do RF::AHumanPawn or RF::ABaseGameMode

or even RF::Lua::FModInfo

Also interested in the new networking stack

Probably implementing it as soon as possible, if I can target 64 players @ 60FPS on servers, and maybe 100 @32, im happy

[true cedar]

okay i think i figured out the issue except now im even more confuse

d

[grand flower]

whats da issue

[true cedar]

try to do this? doesn't work at all you dumbass completely wrong

BUT THIS WORKS??

constructor for AnimatedValue

[grand flower]

no idea

[true cedar]

i think it might be a fucked up unity thing

[grand flower]

could be

[celest thorn]

hello

is chat chatting

[true cedar]

to make things even more confusing this works???

legitimately what the fuck

[grand flower]

check what WriteAnimationCurve does

[true cedar]

are networkkeyframes managed what the fuck

that cant be

[grand flower]

im neck deep in engine memory leak debugging but sec

[true cedar]

this doesn't work ?????????????????????????????

god

[grand flower]

Seems like by doing this you're taking away some data that's expected on read?

[true cedar]

but this basically does the same exact thing

[grand flower]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i've already got a migraine with UE memory leaking, but maybe print out the writer as you write

See the difference in what's being written with the one that breaks, and the one that works

[true cedar]

wait i might be fucking stupid

[grand flower]

:?

[true cedar]

Oh .

it only had one frame and it needs at least 2 im a fucking idiot

[grand flower]

I saw that in the code and was about to ask you if you had 2 frames

and forgot

rip

[teal junco]

i was scared of ruei because there wasnt a guide to it like there was for the last one and i ended up figuring it out in 30 minutes

fml

[true cedar]

:3

[true cedar]

@hearty shard @icy knoll mark ur calendars ruei v3 is releasing on september 30th i have decided

unless something goes horribly wrong

[warped prairie]

daim!!!

this might be hype!

[true cedar]

may be

i might try to get some basic docs written too

[warped prairie]

praise be

i need that because im ultra STUPID

[teal junco]

i made a patch to make regular hints work with ruei

does anyone have any notes

public static bool Prefix(Hint hint, HintDisplay __instance)
{
    if (hint is not TextHint textHint)
    {
        return true;
    }
    if (Assembly.GetCallingAssembly() == typeof(RueDisplay).Assembly)
    {
        return true;
    }

    if (ReferenceHub.TryGetHubNetID(__instance.netId, out ReferenceHub hub))
    {
        textHint.Text = LowercaseizeString(textHint.Text);

        RueDisplay rueDisplay = RueDisplay.Get(hub);
        Tag tag = new Tag($"{hub.netId}");
        rueDisplay.Remove(tag);

        rueDisplay.Show(tag, new BasicElement(400, textHint.Text), textHint.DurationScalar);
        return false;
    }
    return true;
}

[true cedar]

ummmmmmmm

[true cedar]

ruei has a built in thing for converting a string to lowercase

i mean as in

a hint to lowercase

its in HintBuilder

[teal junco]

oh yeah well like, i made it before i added ruei

[true cedar]

o

[teal junco]

but its mostly besides the point

[true cedar]

idk if GetCallingAssembly is guaranteed to work

might wanna test that

[teal junco]

it seemed to work, for me

like it let RUEI send hints and there wasnt any stack overflows or anything

[true cedar]

oh

[teal junco]

so its mostly fine?

[true cedar]

u might wanna support hint parameters

[teal junco]

which Type has parameters?

[true cedar]

wdym

base game?

[teal junco]

yeah

[true cedar]

its in the hint type iirc

wait

HintMessage

[upper vapor]

Bruh 😭

[true cedar]

:3

[upper vapor]

UHT tej

[celest thorn]

hello chat

[restive turret]

Hello cat

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Anyone knows how can i disable the friend fire detector, enable the friendly fire and then make them do the same damage as normal?

because if i remember friendly fire makes you take less damage

[upper vapor]

this is the config entry you have to replace on config refresh

[hearty shard]

Yum

[celest thorn]

Automatically

[celest thorn]

is this you??

[upper vapor]

find where it's used

[celest thorn]

the problem

is

[restive turret]

I have a plugin for that

[hearty shard]

🪓 what r u on about

[restive turret]

Vut doesn't automatic

[celest thorn]

how tf i disable the friendly fire kick

[restive turret]

By just not making it as friendly fire

[celest thorn]

what?

[upper vapor]

xd

[restive turret]

Just normal damage

Works on my plugin

Lel

Or something i doing have ff set in my config

[celest thorn]

probably

so which fucking thing does the entire control

for this asshole

[upper vapor]

crazy

[restive turret]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/FriendlyFires/blob/ecf321dea5194d08ce66a6bcd10bddc370a241b2/FriendlyFires/Handlers/FFHandler.cs#L10

[upper vapor]

what is that formatting

[celest thorn]

ig its time

[upper vapor]

😭

[celest thorn]

to do a new event

[restive turret]

To able to read it easier by me

If you decompile it will change anyway

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/uxou8j5b.png

guess works

[restive turret]

Not like i will touch the plugin again until damage rewrite

[upper vapor]

nothing implements IFriendlyFire

[celest thorn]

Yea because i still didn't do shit with minigames

i have an example

[restive turret]

Ye cus its not been written yet

[upper vapor]

and why do you cal the base method in a CustomEventsHandler

[celest thorn]

that says "Hello World" every tick

[restive turret]

[upper vapor]

until what

[celest thorn]

public class PlayerEventsHandler : CustomEventsHandler

[restive turret]

Damage rewrite

[celest thorn]

i just use this :3

[restive turret]

Y'know

[upper vapor]

drake laptop

[restive turret]

They rewriting how the damage stuff works

[upper vapor]

how do you know that

who do you work for

[restive turret]

I just saying IF they ever do it

[celest thorn]

what?

[restive turret]

Not like they will do it in 18.1

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-lil-yachty-lil-yachty-gif-15366297216300651140

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290648988823060490/1297678024036323440/IMG_5173.gif

i will drop this

[upper vapor]

death

[restive turret]

Jk

[celest thorn]

:3

[upper vapor]

i'm stealing this

[celest thorn]

you aren't as cute as the cat

already seeing a cat

makes me die

[upper vapor]

some would say otherwise but i'm not complaining

[restive turret]

I might wait for this week then I have to contact hr.
Because everyone was busy with 14.1.4 and probably beryl and jesus was in hold too

[celest thorn]

i mean cats are cute because idk

[celest thorn]

bro wants to speerdun

[restive turret]

Idk why they pushed the job listings at the time before they released 14.1.4

[upper vapor]

doomsday

[hearty shard]

HR was busy on break prob

[upper vapor]

"busy on break"

is a crazy statement

[hearty shard]

i mean on break from nw
And busy snoozing

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gndkFhYh5Mo

this?

[icy knoll]

why do you need to contact HR 😭

[celest thorn]

because why not

[restive turret]

Been 2 weeks and no response as they said

[icy knoll]

true, id just be patient tho

[restive turret]

Ye

I know thats why i wait for end of this week

[icy knoll]

i waited like 3 months for my web dev application 😭

[restive turret]

Damn

[celest thorn]

Crazy

nw is slow

even slower than the italian government

god

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-steam-gif-17126246368493917777

[restive turret]

As said they released the application at really inconvenient time

[hearty shard]

Is that yoi

You

[upper vapor]

no that's you

[upper vapor]

99% of the time

[hearty shard]

i am so close to posting the wrong stuff

[upper vapor]

sklll issue

don't have wrong stuff

problem solved

[restive turret]

Ye my phone is filled with cat pics/memes

[celest thorn]

nameless there's alot of gif of you saying stuff that you shouldn't say

so

[hearty shard]

Mines just whatever i downloaded

[celest thorn]

another one in the pile

[hearty shard]

Or some images ive taken

[restive turret]

I do not wanna know what kind of images you take

[hearty shard]

Scary grass

[restive turret]

Ducks

[hearty shard]

Mostly my cats, some outside stuff

And ya

[restive turret]

AND ME???

[hearty shard]

Ya

[restive turret]

HOW

[hearty shard]

As in yas

[hearty shard]

Stalking

[restive turret]

How do you have pic of me

[restive turret]

Reddit

[hearty shard]

I dont even think i got this one from reddit

Or maybe i did

Idk

[upper vapor]

skulliosus

[hearty shard]

hi axe

Why r u like this

[upper vapor]

magic

[rough tundra]

How do you get a the player object from a Ragdoll?

[restive turret]

labapi_ragdoll.Base.Info.OwnerHub

Or just Info.OwnerHub

[hearty shard]

yum

[rough tundra]

kk thx

[celest thorn]

How do i get my life back togheter?

[upper vapor]

with the power of magic & friendship

[hearty shard]

brainrot

[rough tundra]

another question, how do you detect 049 attacking someone?

the Attacking and Attacked events exist for 939 but not for 049

[hearty shard]

Hurt(ing) event

[rough tundra]

oh, and then you check if it's from the doctor

kk

that's weird

[hearty shard]

ev.Attacker != null && ev.Attacker.Role == RoleTypeId.Scp049

[hearty shard]

also what

i dont see this

ok nvm i found it immediately

💀

no clue

might be cuz theres multiple spots it gets called from

[rough tundra]

hmm

also, how do you get the damages in the Hurting event args?

and modify them?

[slow pond]

how does one check if player is actively wearing skins as 3114?

[rough tundra]

it used to be ev.Amount

[hearty shard]

StandardDamageHandler

[rough tundra]

alr

[hearty shard]

player.RoleBase is Scp3114Role scp3114 && scp3114.SubroutineModule.TryGetSubroutine(out Scp3114Identity identity) && identity.CurIdentity.Status == Scp3114Identity.DisguiseStatus.Active

[upper vapor]

me when
Scp049DamageHandler

[hearty shard]

true

however

flip u

[upper vapor]

no thanks

[hearty shard]

no flips?

sad

[upper vapor]

i can't

i'm unable to

[hearty shard]

nw adding role wrappers will be so nice

[restive turret]

Backflip

[hearty shard]

i missed scp3114.IsDisguised

💔

[upper vapor]

200000 years later

[hearty shard]

i might pr it for them

[slow pond]

so do I

[restive turret]

They said soon but probably in 14.2

Or later

[hearty shard]

its prob being done internally

[restive turret]

Or just in todo list

[hearty shard]

slime you should become exiled maintainer

trust

u can fix it

[restive turret]

I don't even use exiled

[hearty shard]

exactly

[upper vapor]

does that require a 3+idk week long application process

[hearty shard]

no it requires exiled deciding new maintainers are needed and then being active

[slow pond]

thank you eve

[restive turret]

Yes you have to get flowers and chocolate and send your resume and portfolio to Yamato

[hearty shard]

!!!

slime when r u getting me 500 bucks a second

[upper vapor]

vine boom

[restive turret]

I am not

[upper vapor]

you aren't

or you're not

[restive turret]

And also requires you to sell your soul , sacrifice your hard drive

[upper vapor]

what if i don't have either of those

[restive turret]

you'ren't

[restive turret]

Get someone else idk

[slate flume]

Is it possible to make a box that players can collide with but it can be shot through?
There's like a layermask or something I can assign right?

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[upper vapor]

ignore raycast?

[slate flume]

Gotcha I'll test this later

And by that I mean in like a week

I'm still in vacation haha

[restive turret]

You suddenly wake up and think of these scenario or what

[upper vapor]

yes

the idea appeared in their dream

[hearty shard]

code dreams

the worst nightmare to ever exist

[upper vapor]

heisenbug in a nightmare

[hearty shard]

whys there a no rp emoji

how much of a problem was this

[upper vapor]

very good question

at lucid

[hearty shard]

@lucid

oh

whyd it not let me click him

@mild ice ok now it works

lucid pls explain this

how bad has #general been

[upper vapor]

@spare zodiac new item to your collection

hold on let me make it a gif

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[pallid summit]

Stackoverflow exception my beloved ❤️❤️

[restive turret]

I swear there is not a single unity game that does not throw any error

[restive turret]

Or warning

[hearty shard]

you should make one that doesnt

[upper vapor]

development issue

[upper vapor]

holy shit the antialiasing is so shit

[restive turret]

Bet (i am trying)

[upper vapor]

not enough alpha resolution

[spare zodiac]

thank you

[hearty shard]

sl clone 20000

[upper vapor]

there

NEVERMIND

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121190756347035668/1418607354127323256/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

it's the same shit

[pallid summit]

Working with MetaXR is so bad I turned off warnings all together and started debugging with Error messages

[hearty shard]

you WHAT

[spare zodiac]

[upper vapor]

i am trying as well

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

i would try

[upper vapor]

just fix the wranings

[restive turret]

Did you succeed

[hearty shard]

but i have no game ideas

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

not yet

[spare zodiac]

make game about a game

[restive turret]

Oh i have plenty

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

[upper vapor]

"rigidbody does not support non-convex meshcolliders"

[hearty shard]

get in the basement

[upper vapor]

I DON'T WANT THE CHILDREN AS COLLIDERS OF THE RIGIDBODY

[spare zodiac]

this clip farm is crazy

[celest thorn]

Hey google, how can i kill a child without killing the parent

[restive turret]

<A spanish "meta" joke about deez nuts here>

[pallid summit]

I did a few but digging into the Meta source code to remove any errors there was a pain. Especially since most of them weren’t even my fault and was legacy code they “forgot” to remove

[upper vapor]

"PUTIN'S SAD LIFE [History lesson]"

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[celest thorn]

This are the type of videos i watch while i code

[upper vapor]

oh right

meta

[pallid summit]

Glad I never have to touch that stuff again

[upper vapor]

delete meta

[celest thorn]

delete riot

[pallid summit]

I love working with VR but it can be a pain sometimes

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1419972190207475793/attachment.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1419972163196289054/attachment.gif

[restive turret]

Delete VMProtect

[upper vapor]

goofy ahh gradient

[pallid summit]

Delete Unity

[upper vapor]

i support this statement

[spare zodiac]

adds up to the comedic effect

[restive turret]

No and why

[pallid summit]

Delete .NET from your pc

[celest thorn]

Hey google, how can i kill a gameobject named "Timmy" without kill the parent named "Timmy's Family"

[upper vapor]

NO

[celest thorn]

Delete Valorant from your pc

less spyware

[upper vapor]

the question should be
how to keep child alive when parent is being destroyed

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1419972659403423754/attachment.gif

[restive turret]

Hey Google, how can i banish an angel back to heaven

[upper vapor]

"banish"

[spare zodiac]

Hey Google how make speech gifs faster?

[celest thorn]

Hey google, how can i destroy the parents and leave the child called "Bruce Wayne", and then rename it to "Batman"

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1419972190207475793/attachment.gif

[pallid summit]

“Ohh nooo, I have to to back to paradise and can’t stay in this hell hole, how sad”

[celest thorn]

Hey google, how can i kill?

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121190756347035668/1418891666752016585/attachment.gif

[celest thorn]

Thats just nw

being nw

[upper vapor]

java

[spare zodiac]

that ain't Java

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22727788

[spare zodiac]

there is static class

[pallid summit]

Java deez nuts

[upper vapor]

you should get one that says "type hbctrl to abort" >>> hbctrl "heartbeat is not active!"

[celest thorn]

this was my average pile of cocaine i did while developing in java

[upper vapor]

the namespace

[hearty shard]

someone has to work

and its not me

[hearty shard]

this is completely valid request

[celest thorn]

Jarvis can you love me?

[spare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-meme-jarvis-fentanyl-fentanyl-fent-jarvis-gif-740512084455787204

[hearty shard]

oh my

[restive turret]

Wtf

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252586517948272650/1372926584620580894/togif-23.gif

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-brain-silly-cute-gif-12951836389394006733

[spare zodiac]

third thing that goes up if you type "Jarvis"

[hearty shard]

eat color

[restive turret]

9th for me

[upper vapor]

this was written in 2013

[spare zodiac]

sometimes

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[spare zodiac]

can you manage memory in C#?

hey google

[upper vapor]

yes

[restive turret]

I can manage my memory

[upper vapor]

if you want to end your life's suffering

couldn't type the 3 letter thing starting with k :(

[restive turret]

Marshal.AllocHGlobal(ulong.MaxValue);

[hearty shard]

can we kill slime boy

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-meme-you-know-what-that-means-gif-12503956388971591256

[spare zodiac]

is it useful?

[upper vapor]

no

[spare zodiac]

can I allocate all memory crashing everytime?

[restive turret]

Yes

[spare zodiac]

I might not have a brain, but I have an idea

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[restive turret]

I open twitter and i see 5 VTuber post, who the hell liking all these

[upper vapor]

contradiction

[upper vapor]

when the stack overflow gets so bad it takes 5 minutes to exit playmode

[unique crane]

Me when they make website after some unnamed exception

[hearty shard]

me when

hi bestie

[upper vapor]

what

[slate flume]

What's up gamers

I'm at Oktoberfest

[icy knoll]

it's still september tho smh

[slate flume]

Shut up

[icy knoll]

wow ok

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/up-to-no-good-devious-plotting-planning-scheming-gif-11704181203764258104

[upper vapor]

germanese

[celest thorn]

im too italian to know what that is (im joking i know what it is)

[upper vapor]

i love it when unity doesn't find a script upon git checkout and now it's missing even though the file exists

[unique crane]

Do you by chance do

namespace YourNamespace;

public class YourMonoBehaviour : MonoBehaviours
{
...
}

[upper vapor]

nope

i just checked out an older branch and went back

solved by deleting the files and restoring them

[unique crane]

Hmm

did you commit all meta files that has been changed?

[upper vapor]

yes

[unique crane]

Interesting

[upper vapor]

i would if this stupid fucking engine would recognize file-scoped namespaces

[unique crane]

Yeah well it doesnt XD

[icy knoll]

wait unity only recognises block scoped?

[upper vapor]

yea

it's on .net 5 so C# 9

if you install a package that lets you edit the csproj, you can change it to preview

but file-scoped namespaces just don't work

[icy knoll]

wow 😭

[upper vapor]

funnily enough, in roslyn, a file-scoped namespace is still the parent token of top-level classes so...

very much a unity skill issue

[restive turret]

It is actually yes

[upper vapor]

what if it's a regex

[restive turret]

💀

[hearty shard]

oh yea

there is for invis too

[celest thorn]

So sad i didn't know i could've disturbed you

[icy knoll]

thanks for letting us know you're available, your dms will soon have 100 urgent messages to respond to

[unique crane]

Millions must fake syncvar

[restive turret]

fake sync deez

[upper vapor]

Can you fake sync unity to work

[restive turret]

nah

u cant fake sync something that is bad

[upper vapor]

[pallid summit]

Is there a way to reset an SCP's ability cooldowns? (for example 049's humeshield zombie buff)

[restive turret]

rpc message

[pallid summit]

aight, thanks

[worn gull]

MÁV is fake syncing the delays 💀

[upper vapor]

XDDDD

[worn gull]

Fr

[upper vapor]

This is probably the best thing I've heard in months

[worn gull]

The displays says 5 min (everyone knows this) but it's actually 1 hour

[upper vapor]

It collects the delay in small increments

lazarjanosszomoru

[worn gull]

I love that the train stops at a random spot and nobody knows what the hell is going on

Most time they hit me with "Biztosíték berendezési hiba"

[upper vapor]

Due to a signaling failure, the train has stopped. We apologize for any inconvenience. Thank you.

[upper vapor]

Biztosítóberendezés 🤓 ☝️

[worn gull]

Ah my bad

[tepid sluice]

Can i modify micro's charge time

[restive turret]

dont think its synced

[upper vapor]

Electrical fuse system failure

[worn gull]

Ask MÁV they know how to delay things 🤣🤣🤣 ||yeah I stop these jokes||

[upper vapor]

Nah they want to undelay probably

Should they ask GySEV?

[worn gull]

Never used that xd

I don't even know what is that

[upper vapor]

Győr-Sopron-Ebenfurti Vasút
Raaberbahn

Green

Yellow

Xd

[worn gull]

Yeah that's why I live at the other side of the country

[upper vapor]

Bruh

What did GySEVdo to your family

[worn gull]

I'm going to Győr next week bc I'm an ultra at a football club

I will check it out xd

[upper vapor]

Győr állomás, Győr állomás. Köszöntjük kedves utasainkat.
-# Győr station, Győr station. We welcome our passengers.

[lusty fox]

SSS are great, sure, but it’s still a shame to have to rely on a Wrapper that isn’t integrated into LabAPI just to make it easily usable… Especially since when you split your logic into multiple plugins, you end up with yet another critical dependency. Is there anything planned on the LabAPI side to improve this?

[upper vapor]

There are FLIRT3s you might see

[hearty shard]

SSS wrappers afaik are planned

[upper vapor]

At jesusqc

Planned (indeterminate time)

[hearty shard]

also what dependency r u using

[upper vapor]

Hmm

[lusty fox]

It’s good that it’s planned, but I won’t have time to wait, so I’ll be forced to waste time reintegrating this into an API…

[hearty shard]

i mean

there is an existing oneee

[lusty fox]

Or use SecretAPI / ASS

[hearty shard]

ya

idk what the 2nd is but

having an existing to use usually ends up being better

it really depends

[lusty fox]

Yeah, I know, but I’m hesitant to rely on an external dependency for my API, since almost all my plugins depend on it. Anyway, it comes down to the same thing: it has to be maintained. I’ll think about the best technical option, but I really don’t know what to make of it. ASS isn’t even a wrapper, it completely rewrites the logic…

[hearty shard]

makes sense

[lusty fox]

All in all, SecretAPI seems like the most viable option right now, but it still pisses me off, even though I’m really grateful to the developers who made it.

[hearty shard]

thats me

[tepid sluice]

Where's it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279403594851811359/1419691628838522930/Roxy.gif

[lusty fox]

Ohh, in that case, thank you so much for your time!
But I honestly wonder, why not make a PR to implement SecretAPI’s SSS wrapper directly into LabAPI? Is the rework planned on the game side or on LabAPI’s side?

[hearty shard]

Its up to NW how they want it implemented

if i was labapi maintainer, sure id pr it

but

id rather let NW handle it

[hearty shard]

CycleController

prob

[tepid sluice]

ty eve!

[hearty shard]

looks like you can handle it server side

[hearty shard]

pay up

[tepid sluice]

i got 0 in my paypal

[hearty shard]

so sad

[tepid sluice]

[upper vapor]

Xd

[lusty fox]

We just need to start a petition aimed at JesusQC

[hearty shard]

i could pr role wrappers to SecretAPI

but i wont

[upper vapor]

We just need to mass ping a nw programmer to rewrite SSSS

[hearty shard]

heart breaking

[upper vapor]

He might not

But david might

[hearty shard]

i want riptide to do it

[upper vapor]

Well

@worthy rune how much for you to rewrite SSSS :3

[hearty shard]

bribery?!

[upper vapor]

No

Just a trade offer

Civilized business

[hearty shard]

Bribe

[worthy rune]

1 billion USD

[upper vapor]

That's like

0.02% of Nvidia

[worthy rune]

a small price to pay

[lusty fox]

Don’t challenge me, I’ll code a bot to ping about this once a day otherwise

[upper vapor]

I'll challenge you (to get you banned )

[lusty fox]

I won’t leave any evidence, I’ll be invisible—just like the SSS Wrapper on LabAPI

[upper vapor]

Bruh

I wonder how you'll mass ping someone without getting noticed

[lusty fox]

Jokes aside, we’ve come a long way with LabAPI — it’s great to finally have something offered by the studio for developers. It’s just a shame that some QoL features as useful as SSS are missing, even though I don’t doubt they’ll eventually be added. The big question is: when?

[lusty fox]

Just a new Discord account

And voilà

Well, they mustn’t stumble upon our exchange, otherwise it’ll be dead in the water

[upper vapor]

[worn gull]

Btw this was the best place to talk about this xd

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

1 massive delicious steak and baked potatoes

[hearty shard]

how massive we talking

[unique crane]

Idk

How much does average steak weight

[hearty shard]

1km * 1km ?

[worn gull]

You know what else is massive? 😐

[unique crane]

💀

[upper vapor]

mass

[restive turret]

MY HEARTH

[unique crane]

slejm died

[worn gull]

And that's the correct answer

[hearty shard]

goog says The average steak typically weighs around 225 grams (approximately 8 ounces) when raw. For portioning, a good rule of thumb is to consider about 180 grams for children and smaller eaters, and 225 grams for average adults.

[unique crane]

someone bury his corpse or its gonna start to rot soon

[unique crane]

Yeah so half of kilo

[upper vapor]

so... cooked steak mass = raw steak mass?

[restive turret]

[unique crane]

No

[hearty shard]

tbf he never specified raw vs cooked

[unique crane]

I aint eating raw meat

[hearty shard]

he just wants it delicious

so if we hide the taste of raw meat it should be fine!

[hearty shard]

double + 50

i see i see

[upper vapor]

that's a lotta steak

[restive turret]

thats a big meat

[unique crane]

Average portion of meal is like half of what I eat normally

so yea

double it

[upper vapor]

and give it to riptide?

[worn gull]

And give it to the next person

[unique crane]

No

My foob

[upper vapor]

cut it in half and give it to the previous person in the basement

[hearty shard]

foob?

whats that

[upper vapor]

food

[hearty shard]

i disagree

[worn gull]

Food but mirrored xd

d|b

[hearty shard]

thats not mirrored

doof

[upper vapor]

ahh

[worn gull]

Goofy

[hearty shard]

goof ball

[unique crane]

Ill have some semestral work with gitlab

[hearty shard]

david when role wrappers

[worn gull]

Same stare as when the teacher says we will learn linux

[unique crane]

and I hope we can choose what we do cause in that case im giving them public labapi repo and calling it a day

[upper vapor]

HUH

[hearty shard]

why

[unique crane]

Leaking labapi update huh?

[upper vapor]

yoink

[unique crane]

im telling beryl

[worn gull]

Yeah we're learning Linux in uni

[tepid sluice]

Leaking labapi update?

[upper vapor]

opening dotpeek immediately

[tepid sluice]

cool!

[worthy rune]

u owe me a billion USD

[upper vapor]

jealous (i don't go to uni)

[hearty shard]

hey that wasnt my offe

that was ax

[worthy rune]

doesnt matter

[unique crane]

I was at my first linux lecture today

and felt asleep almost

[worthy rune]

i dont discriminate

[unique crane]

I know ton of it already 😭

[upper vapor]

woah woah woah this is

woah

[worn gull]

It's a pain, because we have 4 different mathematics xd

[upper vapor]

this is exactly what i envisioned for a settings system

[restive turret]

AYO

thats nice

[upper vapor]

maybe a bit more complicated thuogh

[restive turret]

🔥

can we have that next updoot

[upper vapor]

removing secretapi NOW

[hearty shard]

GUH

[unique crane]

We are replacing eve with this one

[hearty shard]

NO

PLEASE

[upper vapor]

oh this is really just a wrapper

and not a rewrite of SSSS

[unique crane]

I dont want to play with you anymore

get out

[upper vapor]

:(

[restive turret]

goofbyte eve

[hearty shard]

actually

i dont like this!!!

not abstract!!!

mine is BETTER

[worthy rune]

a few things, no docs(cuz lazy) everything is subject to change(not even a PR yet in LabAPI), has missing features like version

but feedback is needed especially for stuff that you think is missing

[upper vapor]

yeah i think

a rewrite of the original SSSS system is missing

[hearty shard]

um

how do you even make a setting

[restive turret]

new Setting();

[hearty shard]

the internal:

[upper vapor]

what why do we have graphs in this

[hearty shard]

idk

[upper vapor]

riptide can you please stop using snake case in C#

[hearty shard]

why r setting ids getting reset per round

am i misunderstanding it

[upper vapor]

hollow

[hearty shard]

oh

i see

[worthy rune]

Heres just a small example

public class MySettingsPage : PageModel
{
    public HeaderModel Group { get; } = new(...);

    public ButtonModel MyButton { get; } = new(...);

    public MySettingsPage()
    {
        MyButton.Updated += OnButtonUpdated;
    }

    private void OnButtonUpdated(PlayerButton button)
    {
        if (button.IsPressed)
          button.Player ...
    }
}

Plugin entry

ServerSettings.AddToGlobalPageDropdown(new MySettingsPage());
ServerSettings.SendToAllPlayers();

[hearty shard]

oh wait a minute

it IS abstraction

oh

em

gee

i would have cried otherwise!

[worthy rune]

its a high level system, not really a wrapper itself

[worthy rune]

never

[hearty shard]

i also feel like pages should be sorta handled client side

like server tells the client what is a page and what it contains and then client can handle itself

cuz then you dont need to pin keybinds on every page

[icy knoll]

sorry guys, just a question, do players have to be online to get their SSSS values if they are set to server only?

[worthy rune]

paged example

public class DonatorPerksPage : PageModel
{
    public PageDropdownModel<PageModel> Perks { get; } = new(null, "Perks", new PageModel[]
    {
        new DonatorPerksHomePage(),
        new PlayerPage(),
        new BadgePage(),
        new GlowPage(),
    });

    public PlayerSelectionModel PerksResults => Perks.SelectedSettings; // results of page selection wont be visible otherwise, can be reordred if you want ot display it elsewhere

    public override string ToString() => "Donator Perks";
}

[hearty shard]

riptide ^

[upper vapor]

yeah that's kinda important yeah
i guess NW could make it so every keybind would be hoisted to the top as in functionality, though it wouldn't show in the settings (can be confusing for players)

so keybinds would be handled regardless of viewed page

[worthy rune]

you dont have to pin keybinds here, although the way it handles is abit janky

[hearty shard]

wat

[worthy rune]

just add keybinds to the keybinds page

[upper vapor]

so

they will be visible at all times?

[worthy rune]

they are sent when the player closes their SSS Tab

and hidden when they open it

[hearty shard]

oh

[worthy rune]

just do ServerSettings.AddToKeybindPage()

[hearty shard]

aajajajajajaajaja

ok makes sense

[upper vapor]

genius

[worthy rune]

reason i didnt implement anything base game, was because i wanted something that works now

[hearty shard]

@rugged laurel ^^ for your keybind system could do smth like this instead of what we discussed in dms

ppl using this is gonna break secretapi

im gonna rage quit

[upper vapor]

omw to move to base-game settings

[hearty shard]

i do like that this system handles keybinds nicer

[worthy rune]

well reason why i asked you this #1339704289291141130 message was to figure out away to make this system compatible with existing plugins

[hearty shard]

by just sending them on close

[hearty shard]

ah

[worthy rune]

i think its possible, but would requires some base game changes

[hearty shard]

yea it has a lot of caveats

[hearty shard]

PLEASE

[upper vapor]

it's done for

[hearty shard]

MAKE MENU SYSTEMS CLIENT SIDE

PLEASE

[upper vapor]

yea

[hearty shard]

thats all i could ever ask for 😭

[grand flower]

Doubt we'll see clientside modding

[upper vapor]

SSSS menus

clientside

[tepid sluice]

mod

[hearty shard]

hows client side modding related

Guh

[upper vapor]

instead of the server resending the current page

[grand flower]

Ah

That

[hearty shard]

ya

[grand flower]

okay I see

[hearty shard]

rn you have to either pin the keybinds or show/hide on tab close/open

[celest thorn]

Thank you decompiling it

[upper vapor]

they wrote it

[celest thorn]

;(

so sad

Oh wait

its a menu

type sss

i already made that

[upper vapor]

it's a hack

[celest thorn]

New SCP:SL Hacks

[upper vapor]

genius idea to receive every setting when the player joins

hoist all settings to the top

get the values

[celest thorn]

that's honestly smart asf

[upper vapor]

and resend only the current page

[celest thorn]

i didn't think about that

I have the same issue

[worthy rune]

oh yeah i forgot to mention it but you must use properties not fields. i had to choose one over the other as you cant use both at the same time as .net framework doesnt return fields/properties in the order they are declared using reflection(in later version of c# it does but unity™)

[upper vapor]

what

right cuz

backing fields are generated by the compiler

and the order is not preserved

[worthy rune]

is that the reason

[upper vapor]

that's my guess

[worthy rune]

honestly it just puts all the fields at the front for no reason

if you mix fields/properties

[upper vapor]

yeah probabyl the compiler being the compiler

[hearty shard]

guh

anyway rework SSSS entirely thanks!!!!

[upper vapor]

i agree

[hearty shard]

tbf its decent, just needs some stuff

[worthy rune]

IEnumerables of ISettingsNodes(thats SettingModels/Pages) e.g. List<ButtonModel>, List<List<ButtonModel>> and Dictionaries with Keys as Players and Values as ISettingsNodes or IEnumerables of ISettingsNodes e.g. Dictionary<Player, List<TextBoxModel>> are valid inside pages. the former is just flattened inplace, and the latter is a special case where you have to generate settings based on the player(that is there is no setting commonality between different players). it shows only the settings for the player in the dictionary. its only for very special cases. most of the time you can get away with a player filter or player transform

also another departure from the base-game system is that if you dont provide an id, it will default to a server side only setting and use a runtime generated id instead. it will not hash the label for its ids

[worthy rune]

in reference to the base-game or this?

[hearty shard]

basegame

[upper vapor]

departure?

[worthy rune]

fair

[worthy rune]

well base-game you can specify the id and server side property separately, thats impossible todo with this system