plugins-dev-chat

[crimson dune]

actual black magic

[main zenith]

Is there a way to disable a SCP-049 Cardiac Arrest Effect in his attack i mean im using something now like this:

 public void DisableAttack(PlayerHurtingEventArgs args)
 {

     if (args.Attacker == player457)
     {
         args.IsAllowed;
      
     }
}

the problem is player is not getting hurt by the effect but hes still got this "nausea effect" and if he have this effect SCP-049 Still can damage the Player

[main zenith]

or just completly disable SCP-049 ability to attack

[restive turret]

sub to
StatusEffectBase.OnEnabled
Check if the name or type is Cardiac Arrest and disableEffect

[upper vapor]

there's an effectupdated event

in labapi

[cyan crown]

[main zenith]

yeah but there is a problem i need to make this works only for one spefic not normal player(SCP-049) and to make it work properly on right SCP-049 so if im gonna cancel the Cardiac Assets it will mean that this "no normal" SCP-049 can cancel cardiac arrest for other players + even if im gonna make this work, if this "no normal" SCP-049 gonna attack anyone who has Cardiac Arrest he will deal about ~16 dmg(?) for some reason

i need to cancel attack fully

make him unable to attack

[restive turret]

2 patch:

PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp049.Scp049AttackAbility.ServerProcessCmd
PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp049.Scp049AttackAbility.IsTargetValid

[main zenith]

its working thx so much

[celest thorn]

im honestly trying so hard to fix ram usage

but bruh nothing

im going crazy

[unique crane]

Have you got to use the memory profiler

[unique crane]

How about audio

You stream that from the disk or load it into memory

cuz you have ton of soundtracks

[celest thorn]

No it doesn't work

and i cannot attach it

[celest thorn]

I use axwabo library now

which doesn't

instead it streams them

[unique crane]

I would disable audio

and see if that helps

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/w1zjljlv.png

i even added this but Still nothing

[unique crane]

But thats primitives

I said audio

[celest thorn]

I mean i could disable it not really an issue

[unique crane]

Or check the total sum of your audio files XD

Maybe it matches up to 3-4 GBs

Most of SL ram usage is textures and audio

and since you dont use textures

yea..

[celest thorn]

wtf

fr?

[unique crane]

Ofc

[celest thorn]

bruh

[unique crane]

Have you ever seen a .wav file

[celest thorn]

yea

[unique crane]

Thats pure audio

[celest thorn]

i've seen them

[unique crane]

no compression

(maybe tiny bit)

[celest thorn]

Bro

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/pw4whvnr.png

[unique crane]

SL assets size is also just textures and audio

[celest thorn]

ITS FUCKING AUDIO

[unique crane]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

See

Told youuuu

[celest thorn]

AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

FUck the audi

I SPENT 2 WEEKS

FOR AUDIO?

@upper vapor you are a fraud

your library scammed me

so now wtf do i do

fuck

[unique crane]

Dont load so much audio

Or compress it

[icy knoll]

how is this secretlabnaudio's fault 😭

[upper vapor]

???

Not my fault if you have 2000000 clips loaded into memory

I thought there were less

[celest thorn]

BRO I DID WHAT YOU SAID

its so fucking funny

[upper vapor]

Do you also load music as "short clips"

[celest thorn]

yes as you told me

[upper vapor]

You're saying this like Killers' API would solve it

[celest thorn]

fr

but no

[upper vapor]

When did I tell you to load music as short clips

😭

[celest thorn]

you did....

ig i can just do something if audio clip is lowe than 10s

[upper vapor]

Streaming for music
ShortClipCache for short clips

Insane

[celest thorn]

I mean how tf do i check the audio lenght tho

[plain gazelle]

I can spawn in hundreds of Generator prefabs without issues but spawning in just a couple Gates / Bulkheads (not Doors) and players start rubber banding in specific random areas ._.
Anyone knows why

[upper vapor]

I can't do anything about your method of telling soundtracks apart
You can create an audio stream, get the total length, if it's less than 10s then .ReadPlayerCompatibleSamples() and add it to the cache

[celest thorn]

how do i tell if its less than 10s tho?

Lenght?

of 10?

[upper vapor]

WaveStream.TotalTime

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/fugjlu13.png

you wanna know

im stupid

i already streamline everything

[restive turret]

Stream your suffering

[celest thorn]

fr

im already doing it

[upper vapor]

well

[celest thorn]

yea i can remove all short clips lol

[upper vapor]

so if you don't load any shart clips

memory usage does not go absurd, right?

[celest thorn]

1.26GB rn

with everything other than essentials

i know for sure will never

1MB up

crazy im gonna cry

[unique crane]

Surely the GC isnt gonna cry from all of the rainbow text

[celest thorn]

I fixed it

and its just in a menu

which gets removed

[celest thorn]

btw crazy that audio can be so heavy

its only 150 audio files

[unique crane]

only 💀

Your audio files probably take up more than entire SL ones

Actually our are larger

Cause Cassie

cassie is ton of GBs

[restive turret]

i plan to have 90 audio files

all zipped

~2MB

[unique crane]

Nvm

Its 110MB

Its all ogg

[celest thorn]

lol

but that entire track of songs

from 10 different games

from random shit

and sound effects

[unique crane]

Do you really need all of them

[celest thorn]

i mean im not the one who loves music here

lol

[restive turret]

if i wanna have ambiance it will be
450 file and like ~30MB

all wav

[celest thorn]

bro

450 FILES?

thats EVEN MORE THAN ME

[restive turret]

and i dont think it even have the character talks

[celest thorn]

btw

should i Math.Abs the size of primitives?

because i've seen sometimes in the lovely client console they explode

for being negative

[restive turret]

largest wav

[celest thorn]

wtf is this

[restive turret]

idk

ambiancnce

[celest thorn]

from where tf it comes from

[restive turret]

ut

[celest thorn]

Biggest one we have

[restive turret]

8mb

yea

[celest thorn]

btw should i do it?

[restive turret]

my biggest one

[upper vapor]

i thought you already did that for cubes

[celest thorn]

i did it for colliders

[upper vapor]

WHAT THE

[celest thorn]

WHAT

[celest thorn]

62 MINUTES????

Ngl but a banger

[restive turret]

its on loop

lel

[celest thorn]

so ig by your responce i should've

[celest thorn]

So why tf make it 62 minutes lol

[upper vapor]

yyea

[restive turret]

1h long vid

*verison

[celest thorn]

                            Vector3 scaleSign = new(
                                meowPrimitive.Scale.x < 0f ? -1f : 1f,
                                meowPrimitive.Scale.y < 0f ? -1f : 1f,
                                meowPrimitive.Scale.z < 0f ? -1f : 1f);
                            colliderGO.transform.localScale = scaleSign;

                            meowPrimitive.Scale = scaleSign;

Ig this works?

im stupid

[upper vapor]

there's an Abs extension method i'm pretty sure

what

did you just do

😭

[celest thorn]

idk brain

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/56agr1p8.png

ig this works fine

lol

server broke yippe

[cyan crown]

"meowPrimitive"

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-dandelion-cat-silly-kitty-she-was-a-fairy-gif-14702056371420778419

[mild walrus]

Does anyone remember the plugin that automatically assigns the correct role when a player joins mid-game or when a new wave spawns? What’s the name of that plugin? it was an exiled plugin right?

[hearty shard]

what

no its basegame

late join

[mild walrus]

rly?

[hearty shard]

well not for new wave

but if you join late you get assigned correct role

[mild walrus]

its a configuration thing?

or its automatic

[hearty shard]

config

you can set the timer

[mild walrus]

gameplay config right?

[hearty shard]

yep

[mild walrus]

ty

[celest thorn]

My entire plugin is called MeowEditor

[cyan crown]

Meow.cs

[celest thorn]

crazy but thats not what i use

[tepid sluice]

So u have a cat at home

[celest thorn]

no im allergic but i have a dog

[tepid sluice]

have a dog but allergic to cat?

jesus

[upper vapor]

Welcome to nature

[cyan crown]

what do you use?

[celest thorn]

what?

[cyan crown]

.

[celest thorn]

MeowEditorAPI

[tepid sluice]

DNA just like shit codes

fk that

[cyan crown]

oh i see

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-green-cat-alien-gif-721538137659195618

[celest thorn]

I suffer from asmtha

so even dog can cause me to start dying

[cyan crown]

my bad i have been that sigma today

[celest thorn]

and sometimes i do die for my dog for the fur she has

anything that is smoke, dust, animals can make me die

oh and flowers too

but only some of them with strong scent

[tepid sluice]

cause by bronchitis?

[royal mica]

Abs makes the number go positive, so -5 -> 5

You need Math.Sign

[celest thorn]

wtf is math.sign

[celest thorn]

yes i do

i suffered for that

[tepid sluice]

god bless u

[upper vapor]

1 for > 0
0 for 0
-1 for < 0

Basic math

[celest thorn]

lol

[teal junco]

is there a way to disable a pickup's rigidbody on the client side but not server side?

or to temporarily disable the pickup rigidbody in favor of a server side one?

[teal junco]

my issue is that when i issue a force to a pickup rigidbody, the client hears about it and predicts its behaviour (which isnt good since the server is constantly issuing force to this rigidbody, causing desync). and also gravity which is a behaviour i wanna remove

[unique crane]

You can fake freeze it

not sure how will that one look on client

[teal junco]

how do i normally freeze it?

[teal junco]

i assume itll just look like its being piloted by a server side rigidbody instead of a client side

[teal junco]

kinematic? does kinematic instantly send to the client?

[slate flume]

Is there no way to change a rigidbody's gravity?

[teal junco]

Well i disabled gravity but that doesnt sync to client apparently

so its always trying to fall on my screen

[shy karma]

how do i change the ammo amount in a gun

i forgor

[slate flume]

You need to get the magazinemodule of the firearm

[slate flume]

@unique crane when?

[hearty shard]

never

[teal junco]

can we just give ACE permission to server side please?

I personally wont be doing anything nefarious so it should be fine

[slate flume]

Can we just network sync everything

[teal junco]

🔥

oh also when i made my joules calculator I found that negating the dotproduct of the normals & relative velocity actually broke it kinda, so weirdly i had to go with the opposite and leave it un negated

cus I kept surviving bonks to the head with a 500kg weight but only dying from being touched on the side by it

[modern lark]

@slate flume
I wrote this :

rigidbody.isKinematic = true;
rigidbody.useGravity = false;
rigidbody.constraints = RigidbodyConstraints.FreezeAll;

Have fun

[slate flume]

Oh interesting

It could be that the contact normal is opposite from the surface normal

[teal junco]

yeah

[slate flume]

This syncs with the client and allows you to move it around without gravity?

[modern lark]

Well, it stays in place after setting this

[teal junco]

i assume this will kinda tell the client to stop simulating the pickups rigidbody?

[modern lark]

Yeah, I mean, I never had any issue with syncing such things

[slate flume]

Well yeah you can get the same effect without setting the rigidbodyconstraints and possibly without setting gravity to false iirc

Depends on if you have it in the air or not

Potentially?

Unity's isKinematic prevents any forces from acting on the object

"If isKinematic is enabled, Forces, collisions or joints will not affect the rigidbody anymore. The rigidbody will be under full control of animation or script control by changing transform.position. Kinematic bodies also affect the motion of other rigidbodies through collisions or joints. Eg. can connect a kinematic rigidbody to a normal rigidbody with a joint and the rigidbody will be constrained with the motion of the kinematic body. Kinematic rigidbodies are also particularly useful for making characters which are normally driven by an animation, but on certain events can be quickly turned into a ragdoll by setting isKinematic to false."

[modern lark]

If there's nothing under the pickup, it won't try to fall

[slate flume]

I mean using just isKinematic

Largely I think the other two variables you provided (gravity and constraints) are unnecessary for the purposes you provided, as the constraints appear to be redundant and I thought gravity worked by applying a force to the pickup, not constantly setting its position

To my knowledge isKinematic on its own should have the same effect as if you did it with the other two

[plain gazelle]

Two questions

1. I can spawn in hundreds of Generator prefabs without issues but spawning in just a couple Gates / Bulkheads (not Doors) and players start rubber banding in specific random areas ._.
   Anyone knows why?

2. Would it be possible to modify prefabs before/after spawning them in? For example the Clutter prefabs. The big orange pipe prefab has two fence gates on either side of the pipes. Would it be possible to isolate the fence gates and only have them spawn in?

[hearty shard]

Gates NOT bulkheads do not sync afaik

generators do sync and having it works fine even with the 3/3 activated etc

[plain gazelle]

Yeah Gens work so amazingly. Dynamically updates the x/y activated and with cassie too.

Spawning in Bulkheads and Gates seems to work fine? So does deleting them
All players see them upon spawning them in, and they no longer see them upon destroying them

[hearty shard]

hmm

[plain gazelle]

For the second question, afaik only the root object of a prefab has the NetworkIdentify component, and if i understand mirror correctly, using a SyncVar, a child game object could possibly be set to inactive

Just not sure if such a SyncVar exists or how to access/use it

[icy knoll]

do you wish to destroy the object or hide it temporarily?

[plain gazelle]

Either is fine

[icy knoll]

Player::Connection.Send(new ObjectDestroyMessage(...))

if the other, then you will need to use fake sync vars

[plain gazelle]

In this prefab, i want to destroy/hide everything that isnt the fence in the bottom left. I only want/need that fence

[icy knoll]

ah an object destroy message wont work for that then

because it needs info for the whole thing

[plain gazelle]

NW should make more things prefabs for us to use

When will we get Atlas_CleaningAssets_BucketA and Atlas_CleaningAssets_Mop 🙏

But yeah in the end i want to basically delete/hide everything from the prefab
Huge Orange Pipes Open Connector except the objects
TrimVents_GridFence_1m and
TrimVents_GridFence_Door
so i can use them in builds

[teal junco]

can someone explain to me how waypoint followers work

i tried doing a foreach of all waypoints but a. it crashed my server and b. i dont know how to figure out whether an object is inside one

[obtuse spruce]

you found a way to spawn it ?

[plain gazelle]

no?

[obtuse spruce]

So how did you have this on the surface ?

[ashen hound]

that part of spawnable room connectors

which are networked

[obtuse spruce]

Oh nice

[plain gazelle]

Oh yeah you can instantiate prefabs from NetworkClient.prefabs just fine

But like, thats a single clutter prefab

grrr

[obtuse spruce]

Oh okayyyy

[slate flume]

Yo that's dope as shit

[slate flume]

Can you elaborate on what a waypoint follower is?

What's your goal?

[cyan crown]

damn

the lighting looks peak

[plain gazelle]

Who is brayden dowson

[icy knoll]

beryl

i think

[restive turret]

Riptide

[icy knoll]

eh i know both use their real names

[teal junco]

its like anything that latches onto a waypoint

i want to make schematics follow them

[slate flume]

Why?

Sorry just trying to understand the issue better

[teal junco]

because i want to be able to drop schematics into an elevator and have them follow it

you saw that i can hold them

one sec

[slate flume]

Oh I get it

Okay

That's actually

Really interesting

I'm 99% sure if you child the schematic to the waypoint toy it'll follow it

Wait actually

I lied

The best way to do it is probably add a component to the schematic that checks if it's in a waypoint, then have it dynamically move with the waypoint

It'll stutter but it should work

[teal junco]

@spare zodiac

[grand flower]

Are you making a vehicle

In SL

[true cedar]

give sl players an inch and they'll make a mile

[teal junco]

yeah

it handles surprisingly okay

despite the fact that there's a mandatory 200 ms delay between input and feedback

[grand flower]

Are you okay

Is someone holding you at gunpoint to do this

[teal junco]

no and no

[grand flower]

Why would you put yourself through this

[pallid galleon]

okay so this is epic

[teal junco]

now i need to figure out the way to farm the maximum amount of clout off of this one thing

[teal junco]

Well I realized it was 90% done and i figured theres no point not doing the last 10% to finish it

[slate flume]

Quick question, how do you change the role text when hovering over a player?

[teal junco]

Its a complex system i made which i consider spaghetti code

but it is also open source

let me find it rq

@slate flume https://github.com/icedchai/omni-plugins-pub/blob/abridged-dev/Omni-Utils/extensions/PlayerExtensions.cs#L131

[slate flume]

Also I see the schematic collision damage system is working well 💪🏼

[teal junco]

basically just colored custominfo with all other infoarea hidden

it used to break so much back in the day

i think ive mostly patched it now though.

[slate flume]

Very interesting

[pulsar charm]

is it possible to send a message to a player's remote console without a command being executed?

[slate flume]

player.SendConsoleMessage();

Well that sends it to the client console, not the RA console

[pulsar charm]

so no way of sending a message to ra?

[slate flume]

CommandSender.RaReply();

Which just calls another function player.ReferenceHub.queryProcessor.SendToClient(text, success, logToConsole, overrideDisplay)

[pulsar charm]

you mean like this?

@slate flume

[slate flume]

I mean kind of but not really

You need 4 arguments

[pulsar charm]

am i missing a reference or something?

[slate flume]

What is the surrounding code

Where are you executing this

And why do you need to send output to the RA console

Without a command execution

[pulsar charm]

i'm not sure how its releavant but

public bool Execute(ArraySegment<string> arguments, ICommandSender sender, out string response)
            {
                string durationString = arguments.At(0);
                
                if (!int.TryParse(durationString, out int duration))
                {
                    response = "Invalid duration. Example usage: diagnose tps 10 (meaning 10 minutes)";
                    return false;
                }
                
                response = $"Starting TPS logging for {duration} minutes. Check the client console for results.";

                sender.RaReply("hello?");
                
                return true;
            }

[slate flume]

So question

Why aren't you just adding it to the response

You can response += "\nhello?"

[pulsar charm]

I want to send a message before starting to signal to the user that server got the request and after I've done that x minute long tick duration recording

as this is probably going to be used in scenarios with low stability and you'd really like to know if that command is working or not before waiting 5 minutes

[slate flume]

Oh gotcha

That makes more sense

So you need to cast the sender to PlayerCommandSender

[pulsar charm]

yup that resolves now thx

[slate flume]

Of course!

[pulsar charm]

do you by any chance know what overridedisplay is for?

[slate flume]

Honestly? No fucking clue

[upper vapor]

Pickup.ServerFreezeOverride iirc

[upper vapor]

TransformWaypointFollower exists I think

[grand flower]

what kind of name is that

[upper vapor]

Typo

[upper vapor]

You should leave it as ""
But the text needs to be prepended with command# for it to work
So like cmd#blah will show up as [CMD] blah

[random scaffold]

axwabo moment

[celest thorn]

Helo

Im doing the countdown im not gonna play any games until dying light the beast is out

[teal junco]

how is waypoints detected

[celest thorn]

there's an Add Function somewhere

[teal junco]

apparently it isnt a collider

[teal junco]

how does it know when to run this tho

[celest thorn]

give me 2 seconds

by distance

AdminToyWaypoint::Add

[slow pond]

why does schematic disappear when walking on with culling parent?

[restive turret]

seems to be the culling is too low

[slow pond]

height of 200

[restive turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest thorn]

How big is it on the sides

[slow pond]

less than 100

[celest thorn]

do you still see it?

[slow pond]

yes

[celest thorn]

then idk

we should see how it works client side

so ig just wait for like Riptide or David to answer

[slow pond]

grenade goes through same as bullet

[celest thorn]

because of the layer?

[unique crane]

Sorry, there is currently a bug.
Set the values using
cullingParent.Base.NetworkBoundsPosition
cullingParent.BaseNetworkBoundsSize

[celest thorn]

i thought you wanted to make it layer 1

[unique crane]

Should be fixed the next update

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[lilac patrol]

Theres always a few issues

[slow pond]

Thx thought it was my brain dying lmao

[celest thorn]

Honestly its nw and as much as we shit on them this game is so fucking old that makes sense

[lilac patrol]

maybe 16.0 is the mass re code

🤞

[celest thorn]

Keep dreaming

[slow pond]

do then

[celest thorn]

the first thing they should redo is the entire networking

because its full of rpcs and other stuff

[lilac patrol]

sl ping very volatile

[celest thorn]

and use interest manager

[mild ice]

We need SCP:SL 2

[celest thorn]

LUCID?

[hearty shard]

OMG LUCID

[celest thorn]

SCP:SL The Sex Update

thats what we need

[mild ice]

This community can't behave

[celest thorn]

sorry ;(

[unique crane]

Can we like global ban anyone who sexualizes 939

[lilac patrol]

this is what happens when they let the community think we getting 953

[celest thorn]

That shit is crazy so ig just ban the entire country of italy

and already 90% is removed

the only place where i heard 939 sexualized is there

[hearty shard]

Yea....

[celest thorn]

(by kids)

[hearty shard]

i should be in college class

[lilac patrol]

deletes half of the player base instant regret

[celest thorn]

there are scps probably even better ig

[hearty shard]

Instead im sitting in a parking lot

[celest thorn]

Skipping class

crazy

[lilac patrol]

image perms when

[hearty shard]

When u buy them

$500

[slow pond]

doesnt stop bullets phasing through

[unique crane]

Huh?

How is that supposed to stop bullets?

[teal junco]

star stocker 28

[lilac patrol]

stickers still work

[hearty shard]

Heh?

[hearty shard]

Get gud

[slow pond]

how to stop bulelts going through then?

[hearty shard]

Gotta be careful on what i click

[unique crane]

CullableParent doesnt stop bullets?

Primitive objects do

[hearty shard]

Primitives my beloved

[crimson dune]

no hes talking about the primitives letting bullets through i think

[unique crane]

In that case, he did not give them colliders

[slow pond]

how to give them colliders then

[teal junco]

Set their flags to include collidable

[unique crane]

Well yours using mer

from what I see in your code

SpawnSchematic()

So look at mer what do you do in the editor

[upper vapor]

I agree

[teal junco]

i just gban anyone who disagrees with me

[celest thorn]

friendly fire

[crimson dune]

i disagree

[celest thorn]

can we just gban people who deserves it like Cheaters?

[upper vapor]

What if you disagree with yourself

[teal junco]

i just dont

my future opinions always take precedence over my past opinions

[unique crane]

Has anyone ever seen these cursors on windows?

[celest thorn]

Yes

[unique crane]

Like wtf where

[celest thorn]

the help one

but on old windows

like windows 7

[unique crane]

Okay

[teal junco]

i just tried a culling toy, but it seemed to just teleport my object into a random spot far away

[celest thorn]

imagine if this chat gets archived and now scientist are reading that people gooned to 939

lol

[celest thorn]

It should disable it

so no more render

[teal junco]

no, like it did cull it as well

but when i see it, its in the wrong place

[unique crane]

You need to take into account that when you parent it

coordinates become relative to the culling parent

so 0,0,0 is at the position of the culling parent

[teal junco]

oh okay. so i need to make the position 0 0 0?

[unique crane]

Yep

[teal junco]

or like whatever

okay tysm

[unique crane]

Of the thing you want to cull

And set the culling parent position to where you want the object to be

[crimson dune]

or just like get the position of the toy and subtract the position of the culling parent

[teal junco]

do you think gameObject.transform.position = gameObject.transform.localPosition; would work

[teal junco]

yeah i kinda figured i could do that.

ty both of oyu

[crimson dune]

with the thing sundune was asking when the of both the culling parent and the schematic position's were Vector3.zero it worked fine but when it was moved to 0,300,0 it did not

^talking about bullet's

[unique crane]

You need to have a waypoint nearby

for primitives to show in void

[crimson dune]

they show in the void

[hearty shard]

Eggs and bakey

[unique crane]

Well can you walk through them?

[slow pond]

NOPE

*caps

[unique crane]

What if you spawn them somewhere in a room?

Like on surface

[slow pond]

thats on surface?

[unique crane]

What if you spawn the primitive without the culling parent

[slow pond]

bullets hit

[teal junco]

that fixed it on my client but now its probably at origin on server-side

[unique crane]

Can you print if the gameobject is active?

gameobject.activeSelfInHiearchy

[slow pond]

like this?

[teal junco]

should i just separate collision & visual in this case?

and just have the collider primitives not under the culler

[unique crane]

Yep

[slow pond]

sends True

[unique crane]

0 clue then honestly..

Might want to spawn extra box collider on the server side then

[slow pond]

how do?

[unique crane]

Well normal gameobject spawning

[hearty shard]

david r u David

[unique crane]

add boxcollider

set size

[hearty shard]

Lalalalaa

[upper vapor]

People getting confused by parenting #4738915

[teal junco]

parenting can go fuck it self

[upper vapor]

Nuh uh
It's very powerful

[teal junco]

i did what they told me to do and it fixed it client side but then fucked it server-side

[upper vapor]

Then you didn't do it properly

Are you using a map editor?

[teal junco]

well yeah

[upper vapor]

Can you show how you spawn the thing

[teal junco]

this makes it appear at the correct spot but it isnt actually

before i set the position properly it would be at the correct spot but appear in the completely wrong place

[upper vapor]

Can't you pass the transform when spawning

[upper vapor]

You need to SetParent(transform, false)

You're sending it back to the void anyway

[teal junco]

okay so thats the part that i missed

then if i set pos to zero it should work right

because then both the client and server will agree on its position

[upper vapor]

Is the schematic static?

[teal junco]

no

[upper vapor]

Then it should update properly

[cyan crown]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-dandelion-cat-silly-kitty-she-was-a-fairy-gif-14702056371420778419

[restive turret]

cat

[cyan crown]

[teal junco]

kay so am i still doing something wrong

i do setparent(transform, false) on its own, and its wrong, and then i try both setting position and localposition to vector3.zero and its wrong

[restive turret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/532275180492554241/1145759617054425238/freeze-1.gif

[teal junco]

in the first case it just doesnt show up at all, in the latter two it shows up approximately around where it should but is still not there server-side

[upper vapor]

What if
You spawn the schematic after the culling parent

And give MER the transform to parent to

[teal junco]

i have to spawn it after?

[upper vapor]

Would be more ideal

Rather than attaching it to the parent later

[teal junco]

is there some kind of reading i can do about culling parents or is there literally nothing

[unique crane]

You see the bounds -> it visible
You dont -> it gets disabled on client

thats it

[teal junco]

obviously theres something i am not understanding here if doing exactly what works for others doesnt work for me

i will probably sleep on it

sometimes that helps

[crimson dune]

i feel like something is a bit buggy about them

[teal junco]

relating to parenting?

the actual culling seems to work fine to me

but the parenting is FUCKING me UP

its either wrong on the server side or wrong on the client side, unplayable either way.

[icy knoll]

sorry to interupt you guys, but does anyone know how to set the ragdoll text when hovered over? like the death reason? it doesn't appear to be settable via the damage handler? would I have to make a new damage handler?

[teal junco]

Custom damage handler

its a type, it may have some wrappers

i wonder if there's a custom attacker damage handler

[upper vapor]

Skill issue or MER issue

[icy knoll]

does the spawning ragdoll event happen after or before dying do you know? because i don’t want my logging system to not see the actual reason of death…

or does death and ragdoll damage handlers get seperated? idk

[teal junco]

most objects dont fully desync objects parented to them

[celest thorn]

Honestly just a skill issue

[upper vapor]

So if you parented the schematic to a regular primitive, it would work

Right?

[fresh zenith]

hey uh does anyone have an example code how i customize the GUI from the chaoskeycard once it got inspected=?

[celest thorn]

What?

[fresh zenith]

well. i mean. like the display where the player normaly plays snake on

[celest thorn]

Thats client side

[unique crane]

Snake is client side

What you can do is patch the relay methods

To send fake data to other clients

[celest thorn]

Hello david

[fresh zenith]

so.. how did someone manage to play bad apple on this 16 bit NES called a keycard?

[icy knoll]

client side mods

[celest thorn]

Mods.

[fresh zenith]

oh....

[celest thorn]

You can do an NES emulator and plug it on Sl tho

using textoys

[fresh zenith]

well i wanted to make an "Game" ui where the player can select different games other than Snake but... well it doesn't work if its client-sided..

[celest thorn]

I mean texttoys would be the best thing you can do

and doom is possible too

(i already did it)

[fresh zenith]

do you have an showcase of it?

[celest thorn]

no because i didn't record it but i still have the plugin

tho i never completed the ai or fixed the shooting

but the enviorment works fine

[fresh zenith]

i would really love to see how it looks. and also how texttoys look and if they are worth looking into

[celest thorn]

it looks blocky

thats it

lol

[fresh zenith]

so... not THAT high quality like the snake game?

[celest thorn]

You do realize that Text Toy are just text

[fresh zenith]

yea it makes sense

[celest thorn]

and you cannot do high fedelity "texture"

so obv it looks like blocky

1. it needs to be fast

[fresh zenith]

yea. but ngl i would love it if the snake game etc. would be server-sided. that would also allow developers to add other games other than snake.

[celest thorn]

it would be laggy

[fresh zenith]

well it could be easly made if the server sends like a package to the client which has positions and a cooldown once these positions are to be removed/cleared. means the server sends like a block, the client saves it for the duration the server told it to. and after the duration it deletes/clears it.

due to the display only being 2 colors atm

atleast thats how i would do it.

where can i submit a petition to make the snake display stuff, server sided?

[celest thorn]

LabAPI Git

[hearty shard]

labapi github

[fresh zenith]

k

[hearty shard]

technically server host suggestions but this feels more like labapi thing

[unique crane]

Hello

[fresh zenith]

well it kinda is due to it being LabAPI development stuff

[celest thorn]

how are you doing?

[unique crane]

Going to grandma for lunch

Win

[celest thorn]

Where is the grandma from?

[unique crane]

Same city

Xd

[celest thorn]

Country

bruh

[unique crane]

I'm from Czech Republic

[celest thorn]

Ok you are going to eat good

lol

[icy knoll]

it's not possible to track when a user opens their inventory, right?

[upper vapor]

SSSS

[icy knoll]

wont work, i wanna do like a hint that only shows in ur inventory, wanna avoid clutter on screens as much as possible if it can be avoided

[spare zodiac]

this looks great man

good job

[celest thorn]

helo world

[tepid sluice]

goodbye world

[celest thorn]

never world

if someone (obv not me) is developing a gamemode called steal a brainrot but in sl, would you play it

obv p2w

[restive turret]

sorry i only play pay to lose games

[tepid sluice]

roblox game?

[celest thorn]

no in sl

[celest thorn]

p2l

is crazy

[slate flume]

How do you get texttoys to overlay the keycard?

Or do you just put it in front of the player

[celest thorn]

no?

i just didn't

[slender lynx]

august 24th 2026

steal a brainrot

in sl

[upper vapor]

Well you're gonna have to do some math to make sure yaw is synced but it'll still have some delay
Or you can do some TMP trickery with hints

[slate flume]

I asked because the original question asked if you could replace the snake mini-game with other stuff and you said you did doom using text toys
That implies that you had overlayed the snake screen with said text toys

[celest thorn]

just wait

please

[slate flume]

What are you talking about

[celest thorn]

i was watching the final cutscene of a game

thats why

after alot of time i finally ended it

and thats when your message came don't worry about it

peak story ngl

[restive turret]

??

[celest thorn]

how tf i cannot be sad, like i finished peak

and ngl sad asf

but i need to go to a fancy dinner

[warped prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992121893794615386/1390580327411355689/hello.webp

[shy karma]

why does cedmod break my hsm TwT

[spare zodiac]

it brakes everything

[shy karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688552819116081202/1393158572459954259/alinathehack-guy-confused-looking-at-the-paper.gif

[pine parcel]

is it possible for me to write to my config file, and is it possible to do so from a static method?

[icy knoll]

there is no static method

Plugin::TryReadConfig

or ReadConfig

afaik

you should save config instances in the plugin itself though and override LoadConfigs from Plugins

[pine parcel]

I may have to write my own savestate file then...

[icy knoll]

TryReadConfig uses classes

lol

[pine parcel]

This is more settings for players that the server remembers for them

[icy knoll]

you shouldnt save that in the main config

make another class for it

you can do TrySaveConfig from plugin too

just pass in your config instance to save with

[pine parcel]

I'll give that a go, thanks!

Oh and Lumi, I can give you the code for my TTS stuff if you like?

[icy knoll]

if it doesn't require any subscriptions or any extremely BS like code, then sure

[pine parcel]

I had to write a piped bridge to let x64 plugin talk to the x32 TTS lib

But no subscriptions, all open source

[icy knoll]

cool

dm me and ill look into adding it to my stuff

maybe

[pine parcel]

I'll send once I get polished up

[thin tusk]

Im trying to test my plugin but my LocalAdmin gives me "failed to authenticate: non-issued token used for Authentication"

How can I just disable authentication / fix this? Its a testing server so it doesnt really matter anyway

(hosting it locally on the same machine)

[mild walrus]

what is the easiest way to obtain the amount of class d and scientists that escaped?

at round end

or how does it works OnPlayerEscaped and OnPlayerEscaping

[thin tusk]

Use OnPlayerEscaping (to get their role before they escape), then store it into a list of escaped players

[mild walrus]

public override void OnPlayerEscaping(PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.Player.Role == RoleTypeId.ClassD)
EscapadosD++;
else if (ev.Player.Role == RoleTypeId.Scientist)
EscapadosCientificos++;

    }

Im using this but when i escape as a class-d it says 117 class d escaped. Idk why

[thin tusk]

override?

what are you overriding

@mild walrus

[mild walrus]

So that when this event happens, it runs the logic to increment the escape counter?

instead of doing nothing

[thin tusk]

ehh

but you dont need to override to do that

[mild walrus]

that will help to fix the bug?

[thin tusk]

maybe

can I see the rest of the code

[mild walrus]

the other part of the code is just round summary things, like damage, kills and these things, and these works fine

[thin tusk]

try using OnPlayerEscaped

and check for PreviousRole

[mild walrus]

where i can check this?

in the event args

ev.Player?

[thin tusk]

yes

ev.OldRole

sorry

[mild walrus]

ohh found it

i will try

thanks

[pine parcel]

is there an easy way to get the location of the plugin config folder?

[pine parcel]

found it, for anyone else looking for it, you can use this

this.GetConfigDirectory().FullName

[slate flume]

@mild walrus @thin tusk
Don't do this to get escaped players

The game keeps track of this already

RoundSummary.EscapedClassD
RoundSummary.EscapedScientists

[slate flume]

How would one use this

[teal junco]

Is there a way for me to make a rigidbody not do stuff like impart forces on pickup objects i put inside of it?

I have a car with a waypoint attached which slurps up items well. But since the car is physics based, it is a rigidbody, and as such i see it constantly moving pickups around, which causes desync and is very annoying. If anyone knows a way to prevent rigidbodies from doing that with each other thatd be nice. But I think at a certain point I have to realize i need to just accept a suboptimal situation for the good and not waste time worrying about the bad.

[slate flume]

@teal junco

[teal junco]

holy shit im stupid haha

[slate flume]

Nah all good lol

[teal junco]

i guess i can just make pickups kinematic in there

[slate flume]

W

If you don't want it to move at all you can set it to be static

isKinematic allows for movement in certain cases

[teal junco]

it would still be less than ideal but not nausea inducing like trying to catch a slippery desynchery medkit sliding around the floor of my car going like 50

i just spat out word salad

[slate flume]

Yeah a pickup in a car you can just set it to kinematic and it'll just plainly follow the movement of the car because the waypointtoy is its parent

[teal junco]

yeah. Maybe I can put like a 1 second delay so it gets a chance to hit the floor

only possible issue is like. if a grenade gets in the car the pickups wont be scattered, but thats fine mostly.

do u guys ever start thinking something thru and start regretting your code structure

[slate flume]

Yes

Also you might be able to use Physics.IgnoreCollider

Or is it Physics.IgnoreCollision

One of the two

You pass in two arguments and the arguments don't collide with each other

So you can have any pickup that touches the car stop detecting collisions after the first one

That way it hits the car, then sticks to it

[teal junco]

im gonna have to fit in some code refactoring with my school work

or i just go on another haitus for 3 weeks

[slate flume]

Check this out though, might be what you need

[teal junco]

should i combine this with kinematic

because i fear that if they just dont collide the pickup will fall through the floor

[slate flume]

Oh true

Maybe just detect the first collision and then isKinematic once you do

[teal junco]

yea

[upper vapor]

Just add it to the toy you want to follow waypoints with

[celest thorn]

yo axwabo

can i ask you something

[upper vapor]

You just have

[celest thorn]

Ok why king has 35 tps out of 60 aren't you the guy who optimizes to the nano seconds

ngl thats crazy

[slender lynx]

i was having a great time playing then tps EXPLODED and i died

need a refund..

[celest thorn]

lol

bro is not answering the press, for no pr disaster

[upper vapor]

you have meowdebugger 😭

you can immediately identify the cause

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-crabs-mr-crabs-money-money-money-money-gif-15303388842284429427

[upper vapor]

i don't really understand the question tbh

[celest thorn]

you are the guy who saves nano seconds and the server is doing 35 out of 60

bro thats crazy

[grand flower]

Have you considered that SL itself has issues with performance

And that we can't optimize it that much

[celest thorn]

i did

but thats crazy from the guy who saves nano seconds

[grand flower]

Tbh 35 is fine

If SL didn't become another shooter 30 would be plenty

Also how many players were on

[restive turret]

55665

[upper vapor]

your server?

[upper vapor]

i don't get what you're yapping about

when did i say i had a server with 35 TPS

is that what you meant?

[tepid sluice]

whats nano seconds

[celest thorn]

KPG

and for sure its not my server

you are dev there

[upper vapor]

and it's not my server

[celest thorn]

Wtf are you on?

aren't you dev there?

[upper vapor]

yea

[celest thorn]

so bro fix the tps

[upper vapor]

and does that mean i have to optimize the whole server?

no

[celest thorn]

lol

[upper vapor]

i think you're the only one that cares

[celest thorn]

that sounds like a nw dev talking

[celest thorn]

i didn't play and complained i always lag

so

that was maro's job

[tepid sluice]

you server got 2 dev only?@celest thorn

[upper vapor]

okay you go care about the server you work for that absolutely needs 60.0000000/60 tps

[celest thorn]

just one

me

[tepid sluice]

then what maro do

[celest thorn]

im NOT the one who cares that deeply

[celest thorn]

Maro makes towers and is owner

[upper vapor]

then why are you complaining about a server that you don't even play on

[celest thorn]

i make maps in general, and keep the server

[celest thorn]

I did play it

just i found it funny

lol

[tepid sluice]

oh you maintain whole project

jesus

[celest thorn]

yea

i make gtag, Atoh, websites and working on side projects

[tepid sluice]

💀

cooked

[celest thorn]

nah

[upper vapor]

okay
so let me get this straight
you're blaming ME for the "poor performance" of an official server

[celest thorn]

NO im not blaming you

im just laughing that one of the dev team members

is like obsessed with nano seconds

and the server is 35 tps

[celest thorn]

you know how much i get, from it ||0, because i ask to not get paid lol||

[upper vapor]

i'm not gonna optimize code that isn't mine

[celest thorn]

crazy

[tepid sluice]

[upper vapor]

at this point you could laugh at every developer who works on any server

[celest thorn]

i mean i did for all of the italians servers

and reported so many issues

but sometimes i get banned

just being polite

[tepid sluice]

i do my own project and it very original than urs

😭

[celest thorn]

Bro you know fuck you

[upper vapor]

you want me to refrain from joining NW because i would optimize their code
but on a server i "develop" for, i have to fix the tps that NW caused
makes no sense

[celest thorn]

Wtf do you mean NW caused them?

i don't understand

[upper vapor]

the base game runs this way

[celest thorn]

lol

ngl that makes sense

[tepid sluice]

What tps u get when 45 players

@celest thorn

[celest thorn]

idk

never got that much

but with 30 which is how many we are going to support is like 45

50 / 55 now

[tepid sluice]

my server max is 45 and it may go 45 or less when full

[celest thorn]

nah full our is stable

because not alot goes off

like

[tepid sluice]

hate optimizaion anyway

[royal mica]

kek official servers

wait how do you have low tps on an official

[icy knoll]

the servers they are hosted on are typically bad for performance, and cheap for the hosts to run

[teal junco]

my friend told me to sell my car plugin. Greed or stroke of genius??

But rather than focus on cars i want to next make a helicopter

Because Air to air combat in SL has always been a dream of mine

[true cedar]

air to air combat

[tepid sluice]

what car

[true cedar]

istg

[celest thorn]

you know the physics that goes into that

lol

[teal junco]

actually surprisingly simple at a basic level

the helicopter just constantly pushes upward. and then tilts forward to make "upward" forward

[warped prairie]

war thunder in SL before surface rework

[pallid galleon]

I don't remember who was doing it but did that SCP Prox chat plugin get released?

[icy knoll]

@upper vapor

[slate flume]

Damn why are you guys struggling so much with TPS

I use LudoHosting and never have to worry about it

[icy knoll]

either shit server hardware or unoptimised MER bs

[slate flume]

🔥

I don't use MER so I don't have to worry lol

[icy knoll]

me either

[slate flume]

The downside is that I need to hardcore my primitives

[upper vapor]

Did you mean "neither"

[icy knoll]

i dont have primitives

[icy knoll]

yes

[slate flume]

Real asf

I have like

5 primitives

Around that

Actually 6 I think

7 if you count one that isn't visible nor collideable

[icy knoll]

labapi always says my tps is 50 no matter what so im unsure if that's my actual tps or not

Server.Tps that is

[upper vapor]

The "joke" was that I can't optimize an official server I'm a dev for
I'm not gonna go out of my way to optimize the base game that much 😭

[slate flume]

Maybe just

Git gud

[celest thorn]

Bro what the fuck are you on

[slate flume]

[celest thorn]

Im saying its 45 because we need to run alot of shit

[slate flume]

Just optimize it better tbh

[icy knoll]

then that adds up

[celest thorn]

The test was done with everyone having all cosmetics

And being in different towers

At the same time

[upper vapor]

git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

The most similar command is
gui

[slate flume]

You have cosmetics

That's wild

[celest thorn]

Yea

[upper vapor]

money

[grand flower]

Implement round robin and call it a day

[celest thorn]

Cosmetics can be both obtained for free

or paid

[slate flume]

I didn't expect SL to have micro transactions 💀

That's wild

[grand flower]

As long as you don't have extremely restricted resources it'll boost a lot

[celest thorn]

Micro transaction that aren't even like obbligated and doesn't remove anything from you

other than adding cosmetics

And all of them are obtainable via free means

[slate flume]

Micro transactions

I mean listen I understand it

It's like fortnite skins

[celest thorn]

patreon is the same thing tho

[slate flume]

But that's crazy

[upper vapor]

would be too nice

[slate flume]

Patreon and micro transactions are fundamentally very different

[celest thorn]

Fortnite skin is either you have save the world or you don't have them

[slate flume]

What?

[celest thorn]

Here by Playing the game you obtain them

you obtain both exclusive for towers

and tickets

[slate flume]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

tickets can be purchased for like 0.50c

or more

and then you can just buy skins

thats it

[slate flume]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

or item to help you complete towers with buffs

[slate flume]

Exactly my point

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying I never expected to see that on an SL server lmao

It's crazy

[pallid galleon]

There's some servers with straight up p2w

[celest thorn]

i don't remember but someone else made it before us

[celest thorn]

yea

[pallid galleon]

it's uhh... strange

[slate flume]

Like most servers have some kind of patreon benefits

It's just crazy to me to see micro transactions like that

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/q6accvg4.png

And btw even if you pay for items, all of the paid items are displayed and they say that you used them so people can clown on you lol

[slate flume]

Okay I actually like that a lot lmao

[celest thorn]

They don't even save in the db as won towers in harder ones

[slate flume]

I would fs clown on people for buying cosmetics in SL

[celest thorn]

Harder towers don't allow you to cheat

[pallid galleon]

I personally don't like the hat stuff but I don't think it's bad, it's just a cool way to incentivise people supporting the server devs

[icy knoll]

i legit give like 1 thing on sl to people who donate/boost the discord lol

[pallid galleon]

lmao fr

[celest thorn]

This one is not a cosmetic is just fly

[slate flume]

+1

[icy knoll]

i see boosting the same as donating :3

[celest thorn]

I've personally crafted 47 different cosmetics, and 100 trails

by hand

[slate flume]

I think it's a cool unique way to make money but I think it's an interesting choice for an SL server

[slate flume]

But ig it makes sense since your server isn't even SL anymore lol

[celest thorn]

I think its just a unique way to not adding p2w

and to make it unique

[slate flume]

Unironically, the server I dev for also has a troll patreon tier like that

[celest thorn]

and really doesn't remove nor the gameplay but just adds

[slate flume]

Yeah it's just odd

Because it's SCP:SL

[celest thorn]

and you can still flex because you have cool cosmetics from hard tower

[slate flume]

And not CoD Warzone

[celest thorn]

bro how do you pay for machines

[celest thorn]

Yep but you aren't paying just for the cosmetics itself

[slate flume]

Hosting is cheap as shit

[celest thorn]

but for the time of making it

[static meteor]

Job

[slate flume]

It's like at most €8/month

[celest thorn]

@slender lynx yo hear this guy out

[celest thorn]

8 months is not that crazy of a vps

[slate flume]

A couple patreon supporters and we're making profit

[celest thorn]

and realize you cannot keep up

[slate flume]

Huh?

[celest thorn]

idk if you realize but we don't only host server

we do the gtags and other stuff

so thats why

[slate flume]

What are gtags

[celest thorn]

global tag tournamnets

[slate flume]

No clue what that is

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tournamnets that marketing / sl realizes in collaboration with some people

and for now we are the one realizing them

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Interesting

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idk why nw doesn't sponsor them in the discord either

but yea they exist