plugins-dev-chat

[celest thorn]

but nope

always 0

[unique crane]

https://medium.com/criteo-engineering/build-your-own-net-memory-profiler-in-c-allocations-1-2-9c9f0c86cefd

or run it outside

and attach analyzer xd

[celest thorn]

i cannot connect to the db outside

which is 100% required

[unique crane]

Well then

unless the analyzer supports remote access

make your own

or connect to the db from outside

temporary

[celest thorn]

i cannot until maro is not online because she is the only one who manages port and has acess to all of that (ssh)

[unique crane]

Well then

wait

[celest thorn]

but i mean

if i call GC

it doesn't work at ALL

so how would i debug something like that

[unique crane]

If you call GC and it doesnt go down

that means it either ignored you

or there is nothing to collect

yknow

• how tf you have problem with dedicated server memory usage

that thing goes around 500MB

[celest thorn]

for me it goes 4GB

and im still trying to figure it out why

[tepid sluice]

doesnt it 1GB for each 1

huh

[unique crane]

4GB

💀

Maybe its the 1 billion colliders you have on all of the towers

[celest thorn]

Wait

thats actually not stupid

lol

25k colliders?

• 40 ig

ig that makes sense

[unique crane]

Unload few of them

and see

Perhaps load them on demand

If someone goes into a tower

[celest thorn]

that nukes tps

[unique crane]

Recycle the colliders

[celest thorn]

destroying and loading them

[unique crane]

Dont create new ones

Its just a collider, you can set the position, rotation and scale

[upper vapor]

merge boxcolliders into meshcolliders

[celest thorn]

they already are required to be meshcolliders

[unique crane]

Yeah no shit they take up 4GB

[celest thorn]

hmm

because i need to take in account

colliders can move

[upper vapor]

why

[celest thorn]

Because its easier to do for shapes

[upper vapor]

why do you need every single collider to be a meshcollider

[celest thorn]

because thats how i made it in the past

[upper vapor]

you don't need a meshcollider for a cube

[unique crane]

Im sure that the tower walls doesnt need to be mesh colliders

and the rectangle platforms doesnt either

[celest thorn]

ok so how it works is i get a Mesh that is predone before

when the server boots

and then create a new gameobject under it

called GameObjectName-SyncCollision

from there i scale it

and then apply a mesh collider

with the mesh

[upper vapor]

did you know that you can use GameObject.CreatePrimitive

[celest thorn]

and?

[upper vapor]

oh wait that doesn't handle collisions exactly as SL primitives

[celest thorn]

yea

no shit sherlock

[upper vapor]

you should do this

[celest thorn]

Where is this from?

unity?

[upper vapor]

primitiveobjectoy

[celest thorn]

fr?

crazy

yea i could do that

[unique crane]

Crazy

Our code is more optimized than yours

:3

[celest thorn]

But still i can run 35k primitives on a server with 60tps

and sl base can run 5k

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[celest thorn]

:3

[upper vapor]

SL base can run 9K
-# i have not measured the tps of that

[celest thorn]

9k???

this is evolving

crazy

[upper vapor]

xddd

[celest thorn]

last time i checked 1 year ago 5k crashed my entire server

in 30s

[unique crane]

Skill issue

[celest thorn]

ngl that sounds a nw skill issue

not mine

because same schematics run fine on Meow

meow

[unique crane]

"why does my server crash when I spawn 1 million networked game objects"

[celest thorn]

i don't still know how tf we came up with that name

[unique crane]

I wonder

[celest thorn]

but now half of our projects have meow

MeowDeubugger
MeowSSSS
MeowEditor

like all of our utilities share meow

lol

ngl need to find a new prefix

Because saying meow

makes me more near a furry

or a catgirl

[unique crane]

Cuz you are

[celest thorn]

Not a furry

[unique crane]

Sure..

[celest thorn]

i could accept catgirl (even tho im allergic to cats)

but furry no

[unique crane]

Friendly fire

[celest thorn]

love yourself

now

[unique crane]

I do like myself

:3

[celest thorn]

i cannot say the other one

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

but tho i must say the coolest nw staff here in this channel is david

without david half of my stupid idea

wouldn't be possible

and axwabo

too

crazy enough

[upper vapor]

ah hell nawh

[celest thorn]

btw both of you forgot that sphere colliders exist

[upper vapor]

i know that they exist

[celest thorn]

forgot another one Capsule

[celest thorn]

yea i know i cannot stay near cats

or else death

i cannot stay even near chalk boards, every teacher hated me because i made them use the board with markers

[hearty shard]

oh em gee

ax!!

[celest thorn]

nameless stop simping

[upper vapor]

WheelCollider

[celest thorn]

I don't think i can use wheels

in sl

technically i can

[hearty shard]

r u

okay in the head

[celest thorn]

no

[hearty shard]

i can tell

[celest thorn]

@unique crane @upper vapor Nothing changed

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/21xd5432.png

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/6y47hhr8.png

[soft turtle]

How to hide a primitive from a specific player?

[hearty shard]

ObjectDestroyMessage

[celest thorn]

Destroy them

[celest thorn]

^

[soft turtle]

ev.Player.Client.Send()?

[celest thorn]

ev.Player.Connection?.Send(ObjectDestroyMessage);

[soft turtle]

Thx

[soft turtle]

How to find NetworkIdentity of a primitive?
When I send ObjectDestroyMessage, I also need the object's NetworkIdentity

[celest thorn]

Follow up removing all colliders didn't change anything

[celest thorn]

Base.netid

[celest thorn]

just the netid

[soft turtle]

Thanks for the answer

[soft turtle]

Okk

[tepid sluice]

[celest thorn]

Did a bit of testing and instead ram got up

[tepid sluice]

lmao

[upper vapor]

impossible

[celest thorn]

Nah i did i can show you

I even reverted because they were causing more

[celest thorn]

This is the code btw

[unique crane]

XDDDDDD

Yeah well

I would wait for maro to open up testing port to the db

and run it locally with memory analyzer

[celest thorn]

I mean what memory analyzer should i use?

And i have a game theory

[unique crane]

Okay matpat

whats your theory

[celest thorn]

Because i use meow on other project this never happened only on atoh

Ig that some components might be heavy

[ashen hound]

[celest thorn]

Bo2 or modern warfare old one?

[ashen hound]

bf6

[celest thorn]

Ngl im sad you said bf6

And not peak old gaming

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-cod-black-ops-bo1-bo-gif-5189525120590041366

[ashen hound]

its still sl lol

[celest thorn]

Bo1 peak

We need the numbers in sl

[celest thorn]

Btw which memory analyzer should i use?

[unique crane]

idk

Google it

[celest thorn]

All of them are for the editor ;(

What if i use the debugging?

I think i will use dotmemory

[restive turret]

Tbh I would ude tge unity 6's dll/exe

[celest thorn]

What

That is true

[restive turret]

Would Use the unity 6 dll not the 2021 one

Idk how much stuff changed so

[celest thorn]

Ngl i think i will stick with dotmemory and try figure it out

[restive turret]

Run bepin on server

[celest thorn]

And then?

That doesn’t debug memory or just straight up help

[restive turret]

Object viewer or smth

That would help a little bit

[celest thorn]

But its on the server not on the client so i don’t have ui

[restive turret]

Oh forgot

Ain't rider has some debug tool

Or is that dotmemory

[celest thorn]

Dotmemory

Because debugger attacher for unity

Is only that

Dotmemory allows me to attach to the process

[restive turret]

Well why not run the server on your local pc?

[celest thorn]

Yea

[restive turret]

Y'know you can connect to it by "localhost"

[celest thorn]

But im waiting the princess to wake up

[restive turret]

And debug right away

[celest thorn]

And just down the firewall

Because i want to check with the data we have

Let me try and see

If everything works

[upper vapor]

i'm not sure if you can attach any .NET debugger to a running SL server process

[celest thorn]

im trying

but nothing

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/e2ncbp87.png

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/554fodc6.png

[upper vapor]

you can attach with LLDB
but that's c++

well

assembly

[celest thorn]

From there how tf do i know what it is

[upper vapor]

you don't

[celest thorn]

so how tf do i figure it out the memory problem

if i cannot know

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/7ysjjzg6.png

this is crazy

[upper vapor]

yeah, client do be like that

[celest thorn]

No this is server

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

https://www.mono-project.com/docs/debug%2Bprofile/profile/profiler/

what if i use this?

[upper vapor]

try it and see

[celest thorn]

nothing

[upper vapor]

no memory profiling for you then

[celest thorn]

btw i don't know where it is

because i tried standalone meow

and the maps load fine

without problems on memory

I think its the components

[ashen hound]

~~did someone mange to change font in tmp richtext?

[upper vapor]

nope

[ashen hound]

cant remember if font needs to be registered somewhere

[restive turret]

i think it had to be

[upper vapor]

the fonts should be added to the font atlas but they aren't

[restive turret]

i remember ax complained about it

[celest thorn]

for an hour

[restive turret]

i mean you can add all fonts to it

[celest thorn]

btw guys some cool story game i could play while waiting for the server to explode

[celest thorn]

being a sl dev

he could sneak it

[ashen hound]

sneaking

[restive turret]

3259265 file changed

• added fonts to avlb font list

[celest thorn]

ngl nothing wrong

[restive turret]

idk where or how much but prob need small change
not really high prio so

can be merged in middle of something ig

[celest thorn]

sneak

[ashen hound]

soo font tag is not working at all?

[worthy rune]

pretty sure its been that way since unity 6

[ashen hound]

left one is with tag, right default broadcast font

[upper vapor]

there's no way

oh it's roboto

well

[restive turret]

roboting the mono

[ashen hound]

ahh yes

the only possible font xd

[celest thorn]

kill mono

[ashen hound]

because its in this folder

[celest thorn]

So why not move EVERY font there?

[ashen hound]

did someone make suggestion?

[celest thorn]

its called Fonts & Materials

[celest thorn]

give me 2 seconds

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/263

ok now you can do it

you guys ask for it

and we give you the suggestion

but you guys made it so burrocratical bullshit

[restive turret]

create a suggestion for TextureToy

[celest thorn]

FR

that would be useful

to texture primitives (using existing texture)

[restive turret]

or just enable changing to desired mesh in primit

[celest thorn]

we can make chairs now

real chairs

[restive turret]

??

[celest thorn]

game has a mesh for a chair

if they add that

we can use realistic chairs

wait

aren't rooms meshes?

[restive turret]

oh i meant material

[celest thorn]

.

thats why i started saying that

[restive turret]

ye i was like wtf this guy and how since it is just a material :D

[south socket]

i dont want a chair i want a table

[celest thorn]

i was waiting for this day

[stuck peak]

wasn't that a Unity 6 issue?

I remember seeing some bug report in Unity about it

[ashen hound]

Font needs to be registered while RobotoMono is in specific folder soo its using that one

[stuck peak]

yes I know that

but there was some font issue in general

[frank flicker]

dont suppose theres a way to give a human the 079 hud
(I havent even looked yet because I'm assuming the answer is no)

[hearty shard]

uh nope

[frank flicker]

would be really cool to have when flying around as an invisible tutorial

[plain gazelle]

From NetworkClient.prefabs
Chamber is probably the HCZ->LCZ/173 Chamber
Gates is probably the Gate A and B chamber
Nuke is probably the carriage for warhead silo

But what is the "Cargo" elevator?

When spawning the prefabs in they are only visible for a single frame before, presumably, teleporting to their group location or sth

[restive turret]

server room

[plain gazelle]

OHHHHHHHHH

Thank you

[icy knoll]

is there any way to make it possible for the client to solve a cryptography query before joining the server?

like during pre-auth

[teal junco]

How do I make a rigidbody follow waypoints it's encased in?

I have tried just using pickup parents before but it doesnt work for what I want specifically. though for most cases just having a pickup as a parent is good enough.

[teal junco]

I dont really care that much about if it looks nice on the client, i just want to know how to make them want to latch onto waypoints.

[slate flume]

If you add the pickup as a child it should just work
Though waypoint toys should be automatically moving rigid bodies when using small steps

At least afaik

[teal junco]

not just waypoint toys, but also stuff like elevators.

also you mean if i add a pickup and make it a child of the object of the rigidbody?

[slate flume]

What I know is I have players and I want to use a waypoint toy to move them so if they're in the waypoint toy, I teleport the waypoint toy continuously and teleport the player to the waypoint to, and the player receives the movement smoothing of the waypoint toy

Generally, for large waypoint toys, there's no need to worry about updating player position inside of it because the waypoint toy automatically moves things encapsulated by it

But if you teleport the waypoint toy far enough away it won't take things with it

If you have something not properly moving with a waypoint toy, make it move with the waypoint toy
Either by adjusting its position or making it a child object of the waypoint toy

[teal junco]

so i should handle it myself

do you have an idea on how i can detect elevators and waypoint toys?

or at least what class it might use.

i will also check myself

[slate flume]

Iirc all admin toys have lists of all the ones that are spawned

Same thing with elevators in the LabAPI wrapper

[celest thorn]

what?

[icy knoll]

dw

[restive turret]

🔥

[teal junco]

i couldnt figure out how to reconcile joules to HP points since i havent taken physics yet so i just applied the joules as damage directly

if anyone knows a good formula for that it would be nice

[icy knoll]

i think that would need to be a foruma you discover yourself

[teal junco]

yeah i figured

[icy knoll]

as humans don't go by health points

lol

[teal junco]

its not as simple as

[royal mica]

technically you can use fall damage as a metric

[teal junco]

well a generally nice/balanced formula from joules to HP would be nice, similar to how humans dont use HP but they found a good conversion from bullets to players HP

[teal junco]

i dont even know if SCP SL has proper fall damage

well

idk

[royal mica]

you die if you fall enough

[teal junco]

but ive fallen from decent heights without taking damage

[royal mica]

and only get damaged is small enough

so I assume there is a curve for it

[teal junco]

oh okay

thats a good point

[royal mica]

I assume that is a bug? Atleast without context it sounds like it

I mean, SCPs get a % damage as well now

wait now you made me question if you get half damage

[teal junco]

it might be actually

[royal mica]

Yeah, you get a small damage

[teal junco]

but because of that i thought for a decent amount of time that fall damage was hard-coded using triggers

[royal mica]

I just used the chaos spawn stair to test

[unique crane]

No bruh

fall damage is based of Y velocity

[restive turret]

Ye system is complex af

[glad pagoda]

isn't the fall damage code 100% serverside so anyone can just check

[restive turret]

I think it is, it's "public"

I would say a little bit complicated

[unique crane]

yea its server side

[slate flume]

What

[teal junco]

what is confusing about what i said

[slate flume]

The confusing part is why you need to do that conversion in the first place

I took college calc and some intro physics classes, and taught myself vector calculus with a focus on engineering from some of my dad's old college textbooks so I might be able to help

I also made a physics engine in minecraft out of command blocks lol it was dope

But my point is generally in a video game outside of making a physics engine I don't really hear the need for people to be calculating joules, let alone to account for player damage

Rarely do I see joules calculated in a physics engine regardless

[teal junco]

okay thats fair

i just dont really know how else to calculate how much i should hurt a player using physics objects

[slate flume]

Ohhh interesting

[teal junco]

i take physics next year so i have zero experience with it right now

[slate flume]

So you're launching rigidbodies at players and you want to calculate damage

[teal junco]

after a quick google i found joules

[teal junco]

p much

[slate flume]

Yeah no joules makes sense here

Generally the goal is to look for a calculation that allows you to get the amount of energy the object will impart on the player, and then make a damage curve for it and adjust it until it "feels right" essentially

[unique crane]

Just make curve based on speed * mass

easy

[slate flume]

Pretty much

I'm gonna assume you don't have the contact normal of the collision, so I recommend using the basic kinetic energy formula
mv^2/2
But also make sure you adjust for relative velocity
So it really should be
m*(Δv)^2/2

After that it's really kind of a matter of tweaking until it feels right but you could get more into the weeds if you like

[teal junco]

i do have the contacts of the collision actually, i just dont know how to use it. they include the normals of the collision.

[slate flume]

Oh dope

[unique crane]

I dont think it matters if 500kg concrete barries hits your leg or arm XDDD

[teal junco]

i assume the contact normals can be used to more precisely calculate how much energy is imparted onto the player

but idk

[unique crane]

Average player will not notice that

[teal junco]

true

[unique crane]

you get hit => damage

thats the thinking

[slate flume]

My bad I got a call from my dad he's grilling me about some shit

[teal junco]

its fine i dont expect much from discord convos. as long as people respond eventually im happy xd

[slate flume]

So if I remember correctly that'll mean you want to take the dot product of the relative velocity and the normal

Then multiply that by negative one

And you'll want to clamp it so it isn't less than 0

Then use that as the velocity in mv^2/2

You also might want to use the reduced mass

[teal junco]

reduced mass ?

[slate flume]

Idk if the game has a good estimate for player mass or how you get object mass, but the formula for reduced mass is the harmonic mean of the masses

Well sorta

It's 1/(1/(m1) + 1/(m2))

Or (m1)(m2)/(m1 + m2)

So it's really half the harmonic mean

So in this case it'd be player and object masses you're using

[teal junco]

okay, well if i assume a player is 70 kg, then it should be (70 * rb.mass) / (70 + rb.mass) and then i plug that in as mass when calculating joules

[slate flume]

Yep

Well that's if the RB mass is in KG

[teal junco]

and then i plug in this as velocity

[teal junco]

well i assume they are, and if i just treat it as kg in my own system it should be "close enough"

[slate flume]

If you're clamping it like that just do Min with 0, velocity

[teal junco]

regardless of how it actually is treated

[slate flume]

But yeah that looks about right

I'd say for testing purposes give it a few tests to make sure everything comes out okay
I'm a little shaky on my physics but that looks correct

OH WAIT

When clamping velocity don't forget to multiply by -1

Don't multiply the velocity after the clamp, multiply it in the clamp

Iirc the normal and velocity dot product needs to be negated to be accurate

[teal junco]

okay i think i have it

i will go ahead and test these

thank you!

[slate flume]

Of course!

[slate flume]

Two notes

player.Weight + rb.mass needs ()

[restive turret]

Fat player having more mass

[slate flume]

.Clamp(val, 0, float.maxValue) can be simplified to .Max(0, val)

[slate flume]

This one doesn't change the actual function of the code, it's more of an optimization

[slate flume]

This one is important

[slate flume]

Because currently this will just give reduced mass as 2*rb.mass

[teal junco]

holy shit how did i miss that

i was literally thinking about the order of operations while writing it

[slate flume]

Happens to the best of us haha

Also there's some interesting studies on how many joules of force it takes to break a bone

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bone-resilience-depends-o

Straight on the bone, it states about 375 joules of force

So you might be able to use that as a reference point

[true cedar]

that might be a bit excessive

[restive turret]

You can always split those math operations

[slate flume]

Well tbf he did ask if there's a way to convert joules to damage

[slate flume]

.

[icy knoll]

i imagine the discord summary ai is working in the background like "what the fuck are these guys doing, calculating how much force for blunt force trauma?"

[slate flume]

Bone breakage is a pretty good reference point I'd say

[restive turret]

Rock and stone

[slate flume]

The problem is joules is a defined concept and HP damage is an abstract concept

Generally what you'd want to do is a find a few reference scenarios (things like a 1m/1m/1m at a velocity of 10m/s) and estimate damage values from those scenarios

You'd probably also make it so there's a minimum amount of energy required to do damage

So like (Joules - Joulesmin) and then curve it

[slate flume]

But if you get good reference points, you can interpolate a curve from that and then approximate the curve to optimize

[teal junco]

thanks for all of this extra info

[slate flume]

Of course!

[restive turret]

Thanks clippy

[teal junco]

i probably wont make a curve because i dont know how to make one at runtime, but if i find something for that i may

i mustve fucked something up tho, i dropped a 500kg object on a dummy's head and typically do less than 1 joule. i should make sure im calcing right though

[slate flume]

Well a curve could be as simple as like sqrt(joules) * 1.5 or something like that

Generally like Math.pow(x, constant0) * constant1 + constant2 gets you a good variety of curves for these things

[teal junco]

oh yeah.

[slate flume]

I love desmos

[teal junco]

i used desmos to help me calculate a distance-based damage once

im taking precalc so i will probably become a lot more familiar with curves now.

[teal junco]

alr

[restive turret]

Maths are everywhere

[teal junco]

kickass

[slate flume]

The v_rigid should be v_n

So I made a mistake there

This should be it

I'd say if there are some issues happening, log the player mass, object mass, contact normal, and object velocity (given the player is standing still)

Might help pinpoint if the issues is an error in implementing the calculations or an error with the calculations themselves

[teal junco]

yeah

[slate flume]

Because it could be the contact normal is boinked or smthn

[teal junco]

i was gonna log as much as i could

[restive turret]

a player.one with a 500kg mass in your head def should do like 280 dmg

[teal junco]

i think there is a unit mismatch involved actually

well idk

besides the fact that players perfectly resist huge objects instead of being crushed down (since theyre just capsule colliders as far as physics is concerned)

but the velocity is maybe too low?

idk

[restive turret]

Show log

[slate flume]

Do you have some example logs from the event?

I want to check some stuff

[teal junco]

[2025-08-30 18:51:13.801 -04:00] [INFO] [MerPickupPlugin] Player velocity: (0.00, 0.00, 0.00), RB velocity: (0.43, 0.56, 0.04), relative velocity: (0.43, 0.56, 0.04)```

[2025-08-30 18:51:28.403 -04:00] [INFO] [MerPickupPlugin] Player velocity: (0.00, 0.00, 0.00), RB velocity: (-0.02, 0.00, 0.07), relative velocity: (-0.02, 0.00, 0.07)```

[slate flume]

Could it be it's getting the rigidbody velocity post-collision instead of at the point of collision?

[teal junco]

i just delivered ~30 joules to this dummy's head using a 500 kg barricade

[2025-08-30 18:56:28.054 -04:00] [INFO] [MerPickupPlugin] Player velocity: (0.00, 0.00, 0.00), RB velocity: (-1.52, -1.36, -0.75), relative velocity: (-1.52, -1.36, -0.75)```

[teal junco]

maybe

idk how to solve that since the method i use is afaik the only one i can

for detecting collisisons

unless i want to constantly check collisions myself, which i suppose isnt the worst thing ever. or it might be depending on the specific performance issues

[slate flume]

The rigid body dropped straight down, right?

Which would mean it should only have velocity on the y-axis

[teal junco]

i think the drop test is flawed

i shouldnt hvae posted it lol

ill make a better one real quick

[celest thorn]

what formula are you using?

[slate flume]

-1.52, -1.36, -0.75 means the y-axis had less momentum than the other axes

[slate flume]

Scroll up

[celest thorn]

?

[slate flume]

We just talked about the formula he's using

[celest thorn]

that is not a formula

doing -

[slate flume]

Dawg

[celest thorn]

oh wait

lol

im stupid sorry

[restive turret]

.

[slate flume]

The calculations appear to be correct

Which means the problem is either the

1. Contact normal
2. The velocity
3. The mass

And it shouldn't be 3 because rb.mass returns weight in kg

The reduced mass show in your logs also look correct

[teal junco]

500 KG coke bottle dropped from the same spot onto a dummy same position, should have about perfect Y velocity

[slate flume]

The problem is that the dot product between the velocity and the normal is low, meaning the impact was either

1. Not straight on
   or
2. The velocity/normal on the collision isn't correct

[teal junco]

ignore the uppermost log there that is a different collision

[slate flume]

The rigid body velocities are incredibly suspicious to me

[teal junco]

the units for velocity might be incorrect.

[restive turret]

Ye velocity of low

[slate flume]

Velocity should be accurate

At least for units

Wait

@teal junco use collision.relativeVelocity

Rigidbody mass won't change before and after collision, but velocity will

I believe the problem is the rigidbody velocity is changed after collision and that's the value you're getting

[restive turret]

Do
Timing.CallDelayed(-1

It should run on previous frame

[slate flume]

I'm eager to see how relativeVelocity does

I think it should solve the problem

collision.relativeVelocty is pre-collision
rb.Velocity is post-collision

[teal junco]

gonna check rq

im just eating rn

[slate flume]

🔥

[teal junco]

im trying relativeVelocity.magnitude

500 kg bottle dropped on dummy @slate flume it worked

there is still some things i have to work on, but i think its probably more an issue with the system i use to move objects being unrealistic than the system to deliver energy to players

when i rotate a barricade it usually produces more than enough energy to instantly kill any player it touches

im adjusting the math i realized i did something wrong

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[slate flume]

If you want to keep it as realistic as possible you can still do the dot product of the relative velocity and the normal negated to get your final velocity value

It'll prevent things like a 500kg object grazing a person from killing them

[teal junco]

yeah thats what i m trying rn

[slate flume]

The contact normals looked okay in the logs so it should be good

Just make sure to take the result and Math.Max(dot product thing, zero) to avoid passing negative values into a formula relying on non-negative values

[teal junco]

i have to negate the normals right

because that's what unity uses to push objects away from each other

[slate flume]

Yeah

[upper vapor]

Small brain damage

[slate flume]

The normal and velocity are going opposite directions
Negating allows you to, essentially, determine how close the velocity is to hitting the surface head-on

Because normals face away from the surface

For example, the normal of a level floor would be (0, 1, 0)

This is like 8-9 pounds of pure meat

I just made a whole mound of pork

[main zenith]

is there a way to make SCP-106 Unable to pass objects like windows and doors or how to make appearance of player be SCP-106 (I dont need any of the functions of SCP-106 just to be displayed as Player appearance)?

[random scaffold]

just make a plugin

[slate flume]

Remove the ghostly status effect

That can be done either in a plugin or in the RA panel in the effects

If you want a player to look like 106 instead but still be a human then you can fake role sync

[teal junco]

nah that doesnt do anything for 106 i just tried

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

Maybe apply it and remove it again

[main zenith]

i have heard from a friend that fake role sync dont work properly right now

[slate flume]

It will

It does

Idk who you heard that from

The game just now has a culling system

[upper vapor]

IScp106Passable

[slate flume]

So you need to resync

[upper vapor]

Look into that

(Well, the implementations)

[slate flume]

Damn you're right even applying and removing didn't work

[slate flume]

I believe this is an attribute given to map elements and not 106 himself

Check Scp106MovementModule

[main zenith]

well its for DoorUtils and i think it can work (excpet with windows) and for normal 106 too but i want to make custom SCP that looks like SCP-106 so in this case it wont help me

[slate flume]

Override the ProcessColliders

[slate flume]

In the aforementioned

Or just override the GetSlowdownFromCollider

[main zenith]

wdym by override?

[slate flume]

And return 0

[slate flume]

Harmony patch

[slate flume]

Actually this is better

It has an out bool isPassable

Make that false

Bingo bango bongo

Also make sure to return zero if it's not passable just in case cause that's what the ProcessColliders code checks for

Or if it's better for your purposes you can fake role sync

Fake role sync doesn't require patching

But depending on how you use it it's not as good and is more resource intensive

[main zenith]

wait but if i does this i do set then Player Speed 0 so hes gonna be stuck in doors?

[slate flume]

No

Look at the code

if (collider is not a passable door)
return 0;

[main zenith]

oh i miss that my bad

[slate flume]

Ergo, return zero if you don't want him to pass

And set isPassable to false to

Don't forget that

[upper vapor]

Does that sync like that though?

[main zenith]

probably fake role sync would be better but i dont have any idea how to make fake role sync

[slate flume]

What is your goal

[slate flume]

Iirc ghostly effect is synced, I don't see why this wouldn't be

They work in like the same way

But maybe I'm wrong

[main zenith]

just to make a player appearance as SCP-106 nothing more

[slate flume]

For why

[main zenith]

im making custom SCP plugin for SCP-457

[slate flume]

I see

So will they be able to use items and shit like a human

Or is it fully-SCP based

[main zenith]

mostly completing this plugin bcs last time i was using the bug that was making SCP-106 cant pass doors if u changed player role 2 times to SCP-106 but its kinda patch(?)

[main zenith]

nothing just walk

and open doors

[slate flume]

Oh if you already have most of it then fake role sync is probably worse for your purposes

If you have everything set up around 106 and all you need to do is remove his ability to walk through doors, fake role sync isn't it

[restive turret]

Trued it but its fucked for me rn

So i just wait for new update

[main zenith]

i mean its not like a huge lost like maybe event to make SCP-106 unable to attack and to set vigor to 0 and thats all

[slate flume]

Really? How is it messed up

[restive turret]

With older sync, size of the role is fucked

[main zenith]

like this is what i have right now (u can see what i mean by saying "patch(?)" of the bug of changing role 2 times to SCP-106 for a player)

[main zenith]

damn mkv...

[restive turret]

When the patch provided by trouble and did some poc system when it failed

[main zenith]

ok there is mp4

[restive turret]

Worked for like 2 seconds

[slate flume]

Did you make sure to reapply the fake role sync after a player is culled?

[restive turret]

So i just said "fuck this, waiting for proper thing

[restive turret]

I used the patch + mirror message provided by trouble

[slate flume]

Idk if that has it or not

14.1.3 added player culling

[restive turret]

Iirc worked once then never again

[slate flume]

So anytime a player comes back into view you need to re-fake sync

[restive turret]

I completely rewriting that part too

[main zenith]

so finally fake role sync have some issues right?

[restive turret]

Discord doesn't know mkv

It's sad

[main zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944522172469235772/1408881074334994552/crying-cat.gif

[restive turret]

I LOVE 106 SPAWN BUG ISSIE

you had no idea how many times i fucked by it

[main zenith]

it was working fine(the bug) and then this fucking teleporting shit

[restive turret]

Don't sent message to the server btw

[main zenith]

wdym?

[slate flume]

If you send messages to the host player it can sometimes cause issues

[main zenith]

damn, idk probably im gonna just try to patch it using harmony or find some other more stupid way to do that...

[main zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717080687932604456/1258108922259177604/rollingcat.gif

[restive turret]

Check if player is 106, don't spawn it again

[slate flume]

Turns out @upper vapor was right as usual

It doesn't sync

[restive turret]

What doesn't sync

[slate flume]

I did

[HarmonyPatch]
public class Test : CustomEventsHandler
{
  [HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp106MovementModule), nameof(Scp106MovementModule.SpawnObject))]
  public static void Postfix(Scp106MovementModule __instance)
  {
    FpcCollisionProcessor.RemoveModifier(__instance);
  }
}

I also tried patching the other methods in Scp106MovementModule but none of it synced

[main zenith]

so harmony patch wont work

[slate flume]

Fucking NW

Fake role sync it is

[restive turret]

Ye cus its not networked

I trying to make my thing networked

[main zenith]

the plot twist is ||its wont work too jk(pls)||

[restive turret]

Idk how the stat on network traffic will be

I'm at the point that stuff can be networked and i see nw using that "sendrpc" or "sendcmd" i set the object to be networkbeh

[hollow remnant]

guuysss

why while is stopping and disconnecting server from server?

in Exiled all works stable

[slate flume]

The while loop never completes

The server runs on a single thread

You're locked it up by running a never ending while loop

[hollow remnant]

.

i have problems like this on Exiled, but i fixed this. how i fix? idk, i just forgot it

I started transаfer a plugin from Exiled to LabApi (this is an order) and encountered this problem

[slate flume]

It's possible that in Exiled you're either

1. Not running the while loop
2. Running it asynchronously

All you've given is the fact that you're running a while loop and the server isn't working anymore because of it
Without details on the surrounding code, the exact nature of the issue, etc., there's not a lot else I can give you other than that the problem is likely that you're locking up the thread somehow

[hollow remnant]

check code in #plugins-discussion please

[hollow remnant]

while in exiled started and work correctly, in sync

[slate flume]

Well that illuminates a lot more
The problem isn't the while loop

Somewhere here you're likely encountering an error

Check LocalAdminLogs

[hollow remnant]

That's the problem, the server doesn't give a log

if there was a log, I would have already fixed the problem

[slate flume]

Well I see no other issues with this code

[hollow remnant]

++

[slate flume]

Are you sure the problem isn't elsewhere

[hollow remnant]

yeah

I already want to cry and leave C#

[slate flume]

public class FakeRoleSync : CustomEventsHandler
{
  private static Dictionary<uint, RoleTypeId> FakeSyncedPlayers = [];
  public override void OnPlayerShotWeapon(PlayerShotWeaponEventArgs ev) => AddFakeSyncedPlayer(ev.Player, RoleTypeId.Scp106);
  
  private void AddFakeSyncedPlayer(Player player, RoleTypeId role)
  {
    FakeSyncedPlayers[player.NetworkId] = role;
    foreach (var receiver in Player.ReadyList)
    {
      if (receiver == Player.Host || receiver == player) continue;
      receiver.Connection.Send(new RoleSyncInfo(player.ReferenceHub, RoleTypeId.Scp106, receiver.ReferenceHub));
    }
  }

  public override void OnServerWaitingForPlayers()
  {
    FpcServerPositionDistributor.RoleSyncEvent += RoleSyncEvent;
  }

  public override void OnServerRoundRestarted()
  {
    FpcServerPositionDistributor.RoleSyncEvent -= RoleSyncEvent;
  }

  private static RoleTypeId RoleSyncEvent(ReferenceHub target, ReferenceHub receiver, RoleTypeId role) => FakeSyncedPlayers.GetValueOrDefault(target.characterClassManager.netId, role);
}

This is a working fake role sync

[hollow remnant]

[slate flume]

@restive turret try this out

[main zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280237539545972899/1295354226133962873/togif-6-2.gif

[slate flume]

Now of course @main zenith you'll want to modify this to initialize the role sync events in your plugin entry instead of as events and you'll want to make the conditions for adding a fake synced player different, but the fundamentals are the same

[hollow remnant]

I certainly don't really want to completely rework someone else's code, but it looks like I'll have to

[main zenith]

Still thank u so much for this

[slate flume]

So when you remove the while loop, everything works?

[hollow remnant]

yeah

[slate flume]

So what is NewEvent

Why are you doing any of this

[hollow remnant]

public class NewEvent
    {
        public static bool IsStarted;
        public static bool IsWaiting;
        public static string WaitingTime;
        public static string StartedTime;
        public static CoroutineHandle Timer;
        public static string Name;
        public static Player Organizer;
        public static string RpLevel;
        public static IMessage Message;
        public static readonly SocketGuild Guild = DiscordLab.Bot.Client.GetGuild(1370518998332080218);
        public static readonly SocketTextChannel Channel = Guild.GetTextChannel(1385082196615761932);
    }

this

[slate flume]

Of course! I mean it's not too complicated of a concept, it's just a matter of knowing where to find it and work with it

[slate flume]

So is it possible that the issue is that in the while loop, modifying those variables is triggering an update to the discord client and that update is what's causing issues?

Meaning the problem isn't with the while loop itself but with the bot interfacing

[hollow remnant]

No, I had a similar problem on Exiled with infinite loops in the code, but I don't remember how I fixed it.

Discord has nothing to do with it

[slate flume]

Infinite loops in a coroutine aren't a problem though

At least not natively

They run asynchronously

I'm trying to explain that it's crazy that the problem would be the fact that you have a while loop, and that the problem is likely the code running inside of / interfacing with that loop

[hollow remnant]

I rewrote the code a bit, leaving the while, I'll check it now

give me a second

[slate flume]

Try removing all the code in the while loop except for the yield return Timing bit

And see if you still have issues

That'll confirm whether or not the issue is the while loop or the code inside of it

[hollow remnant]

second please

problem in while....

[upper vapor]

Nuh uh

That's just an illusion

[hollow remnant]

now I'll try to make one while-loop to understand whether the problem is in two loops or in general in the fact that there is a loop

[slate flume]

So just running the coroutine with a while loop in it breaks your server?
That's so crazy because I've never experienced that problem

[slate flume]

Huh?

[hollow remnant]

Yup! That's right!

[upper vapor]

Well

At least, it's not running on a separate thread

[slate flume]

Yeah I know that but they run "in the background" even though they use main thread respurces

[hollow remnant]

So, as I found out, the problem is that there is an infinite loop, what is the best way to remove it?

[upper vapor]

"running independently of other coroutines but still based on the update loop" isn't really async, is it

[slate flume]

Figure out why infinite loops are bricking your server to start
This is a problem no one else has

[slate flume]

Depends on your definition of asynchronous

[upper vapor]

Yeah

Not really async in a "usual" .NET way

[slate flume]

True

[upper vapor]

Async in terms of independent of other coroutines

[hollow remnant]

give me a second, i just testing with for

[slate flume]

This is insane

What is wrong with your server that you can't run while loops

[hollow remnant]

for (; NewEvent.IsWaiting; )

[hollow remnant]

idkkk

[slate flume]

You've gone mad

[hollow remnant]

Yeah :)

yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(1f);
Timing.RunCoroutine(TimerEnum());
yield break;

let's goooooooooooooo

[upper vapor]

Does the condition get modified in the loop

If not

You're cooked

[hollow remnant]

I already want a custom role "madman" on this discord server

[hollow remnant]

@slate flume IT'S NOT WORK TOOOO

Problem with Timing?

[slate flume]

Check your dependencies

[hollow remnant]

using MEC

[slate flume]

I mean is it up to date, do you get your dependencies from the game managed folder?

[hollow remnant]

hmmm

idk

give me a sec

i dumb

updated now

testing in process...

isn't dependency problem...

[hollow remnant]

@slate flume

[hollow remnant]

i start try with TimeSpan

[slate flume]

So the server locks up anytime you using the Timing class?

[hollow remnant]

stooop

check

this

fck

bug

@slate flume

[hollow remnant]

problem in this code

not in while

but discord message sended

and hint displayed

[slate flume]

So did you make all of this or are you modifying an existing plugin?

[hollow remnant]

Modifying

[slate flume]

And does the original plugin work on your server?

[hollow remnant]

This method previously called Timer in place of TimeSpan

[hollow remnant]

on Exiled - yes. on LabApi - no

[slate flume]

What is the plugin called?

[hollow remnant]

DiscordLab.EventSystem

I'LL FIX IT

okay

let's go to problem

foreach (Player p in Player.List)
                                {
                                    Hints.RemoveHints(p);
                                    PlayerDisplay pd = PlayerDisplay.Get(p);
                                    pd.AddHint(Hints.GetHint(p));
                                }

plugin has got null or server player

it's crash my sexy server

and this without any errors

[slate flume]

Wait you're fucking with DiscordLab?

[slate flume]

Use Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers)

[hollow remnant]

50/50

[hollow remnant]

simple Player.ReadyList fix it

[slate flume]

Yes but then it sends to dummies

Which iirc will cause errors if you spawn dummies

Because in HSM dummies don't get PlayerDisplays

[slate flume]

So do this ^

@hollow remnant why are you doing all this work when a DiscordLab port already exists

It exists for LabAPI

[hollow remnant]

it's just plugin port to LabApi problem

[slate flume]

Someone already did the work to port it to LabAPI

[hollow remnant]

not this plugin

[slate flume]

Yes, this plugin

#1394397577004318850 message

[hollow remnant]

plugin.name == discordlab.eventsystem
!discordlab.modules.Contains(plugin.name);

[slate flume]

What is the eventsystem for?

[hollow remnant]

Events server in SCP:SL

[slate flume]

Why is that important

What does it do

[slate flume]

That DiscordLab doesn't do already

[slate flume]

So it logs events in the discord?

[hollow remnant]

for ex,

[slate flume]

Hate to break it to you but that's also in DiscordLab, just not under the same name

[hollow remnant]

that's not what i'm talking about

[slate flume]

Then explain further cause I'm lost

[slate flume]

OH

That makes much much more sense

I gotcha

[hollow remnant]

yeaaaa

[slate flume]

My bad homie

[hollow remnant]

yup

[hollow remnant]

why?

[slate flume]

I was hoping you were wrong so you could avoid the pain of rewriting everything without using MEC.Timing

Cause it's so insane to me that that's breaking everything

[hollow remnant]

oh well, I managed to try a bunch of methods, from while in for, to CallDelayed and TimeSpan

I still need to rewrite 2-3 plugins in LabAPI, maybe I'll write more here))

[slate flume]

Wait maybe you can avoid the pain?
The new DiscordLab has

[hollow remnant]

It seems to have already been done, I also tried to update it to the new DiscordLab on LabAPI

[slate flume]

I just don't want you to have to port every plugin without being able to use Timing

[hollow remnant]

the error was not in Timing, so don't worry about me so much bro

[hollow remnant]

@slate flume are you here?

if (e.Player.Role == RoleTypeId.Scp173)
        {
            e.SpawnLocation = Room.Get(RoomName.Lcz173).WorldPosition(new Vector3(17.126f, 13.0f, 7.661f));
        }

how to do this?

I can't find anything like this

[slate flume]

Just use .Position

[hollow remnant]

i can modify this?

[slate flume]

You can't modify the room's location

But

[slate flume]

I see the goal is to move 173 to light

What you want to do is

Room room = Room.Get(RoomName.Lcz173);
e.SpawnLocation = room.Rotation * new Vector3(...) + room.Position

Where Vector3 is the unadjusted room coordinates

[slate flume]

Oh yeah that's because Room.Get returns an IEnumerable

[slate flume]

Use Room.Get(RoomName.Lcz173).First(x => x.Base));

In case you're unsure the offset is what you set it to, here's a code snippet you can drop in to figure out the coordinates:

public override void OnPlayerShotWeapon(PlayerShotWeaponEventArgs ev)
{
  if (ev.Player.Room == null) return;
  Room room = ev.Player.Room;
  Vector3 position = ev.Player.Position;
  position = Quaternion.Inverse(room.Rotation) * (position - room.Position);
  Logger.Info($"{position.x}, {position.y}, {position.z}");
}

[hollow remnant]

and what should I replace ev.IsAllowed = false; with in LabAPI?

and what to do with Player.Explode()?

how difficult is it to switch so abruptly from LabAPI...

[slate flume]

Nothing

LabApi uses ev.IsAllowed = false;

[slate flume]

Where is this code found

[hollow remnant]

in public void Used(PlayerUsedItemEventArgs ev)

[slate flume]

Change that to public void Using(PlayerUsingItemEventArgs ev)

You can't cancel an event after it's already happened

[slate flume]

public static void Explode(this Player player) => ExplosionUtils.ServerExplode(player.ReferenceHub, ExplosionType.Custom);
That's an extension method you can add to a static class in your plugin to get an Explodefor players

[hollow remnant]

okaaay

where is effects?

[slate flume]

Depends

[hollow remnant]

i can't find movement boost effects

[hollow remnant]

thx

[slate flume]

player.GetEffect<MovementBoost>();

[hollow remnant]

no, like this

[slate flume]

ev.Player.EnableEffect<MovementBoost>();

Every status effect is its own class/type

[hollow remnant]

thx

[slate flume]

[tepid sluice]

Generics

[slate flume]

I made a generic abstract class

That shit is wild

I still don't fully understand how it all works but it does

[tepid sluice]

anyway

it works

[slate flume]

You can do like public abstract class CustomItemBase<T> : CustomItemBase where T : CustomItemBase<T>
And then declare something like a public static Dictionary<ushort, LightSourceToy?> CustomItemData = new();
And then each item class you make from it inherits a separate static dictionary

So I could pull a public class CoinHID : CustomItemBase<CoinHID>
And then automatically reference the items in a Harmony patch like

public class CoinHIDPatch
{
  public static bool Prefix(CycleController __instance) => !CoinHID.CustomItemData.ContainsKey(__instance.Serial);
}

It's really dope actually

Really that's like the only reason I refactored all my custom items a few days ago

It's a small change but it does a lot to clean up the code and make things more consistent

Because before in order to do things like Harmony patches, I had to override the Give and Spawn commands to add the serial to a new separate list

It's also dope cause it means I don't need a centralized Registry to give or spawn custom items anymore, because I can have inherited static methods

So I could just CoinHID.Give(player); instead of something like CustomItemBase.Registry.First(x => x is CoinHID).Give(player);

But I still keep a centralized registry for doing shit with randomness

And that's made possible through the non-generic custom item base public abstract class CustomItemBase : CustomEventsHandler

I mean I have a pretty good idea on how it all works but this was one of those ideas I kinda just get in the shower and then test it out later to see if it actually works and how to actually do it

But it worked out fucking fantastic cause I removed like a ton of lines of code from my items

[upper vapor]

Why not transform.(Inverse)TransformPoint

[slate flume]

Doesn't TransformPoint calculate things like scale and other junk?

I also believe it uses the internal transform matrix

[slate flume]

Which, if I'm not mistaken, makes this a little bit more optimized

Though the difference is negligible so it doesn't really matter tbh

I just never really knew about TransformPoint so I used that method throughout my codebase when I first started making my plugin and now it's my new norm

[upper vapor]

Are room scaled though
No
Even if they were, their scale would be consistent

[teal junco]

Do rigidbodies in SL work slightly differently?

i have a car script that works on basis of rigidbodies and it works fine in unity but when i port it to SL it just doesnt drive

or even suspend

[slate flume]

Yeah my point is that it's overhead

It does unnecessary calculations

At least in this case because rooms aren't scaled

[upper vapor]

Make an extension method

Instead of copy-pasting the formula

(If you haven't yet)

[slate flume]

It was like 5 lines of code I didn't think giving the poor guy an extension method with it would help clear things up 😭

[upper vapor]

Okay fair for the example's sake

[slate flume]

I have a Resources class with a bunch of extension methods for shit like this dw

I'm not an animal

[slate flume]

Though some people here kind of are 💀

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

Extensions namepsace with each file containing extensions for a specific class

[upper vapor]

Gotta love my old Utils.cs and Helpers.cs and SCPSLHelper.cs

"firzt plugwn uwu"
I wasn't even a furry back then 😭

[slate flume]

There's sort of a double meaning behind what I said lmao

[slate flume]

I'm gonna create a file for my Player extensions and all it is is one class with this
public static void Explode(this Player player) => ExplosionUtils.ServerExplode(player.ReferenceHub, ExplosionType.Custom);

[upper vapor]

Yes indeed

You never know when you need a new extension for the class you're extending

Seriously

[slate flume]

But what if it gets lonely 🥺

[upper vapor]

Well

Give it a friend

[slate flume]

But I have no friends to give it :(

[teal junco]

make an extension that procedurally generates a string of swear words and then broadcasts it to the player

[upper vapor]

I'm not sure, I haven't worked with custom rigidbodies in SL
Check if the mass is the exact same

[royal mica]

I'm correct in the assumption, that if multiple plugin modify ServerSpecificSettingsSync.DefinedSettings it overrides it

oh god this is worse

oh no

[unique crane]

Ofc... its just a reference..

[royal mica]

Great, just wanted to double check

not some reflection unity creates shadow static classes bullshit

[unique crane]

If you use multiple plugins with it, you can DefinedSettings = DefinedSettings.Append(...)

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/gnem9yzq.png

best websocket

my brain is fried, cloudflare is hard...

[lucid canyon]

i have simple solution.
I didn't fix the actual cause of this bug, but i removed symptoms.

this dupe only work inventory item(i checked held item is dupe, but i think inventory item upgrade is also dupe)

this item(pickup) have same serial, when others held item(item)
so remove item(pickup) use item(item)'s serial.

[tepid sluice]

wow that map

how

[royal mica]

Yes I already fixed it

You need patch [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StandardItemProcessor), "ProcessPickup")]
And replace the ServerCreatePickup to have a spawn: flase parameter

And also [HarmonyPatch(typeof(FirearmItemProcessor), "UpgradePickup", [ typeof(ItemType), typeof(ItemPickupBase)])] for guna

I assume the spawn param got changed from default false to true and caused thos recession bug

[grave eagle]

[royal mica]

The bug itself is that 914 duplicates the held item as pickup, but the pickup is already in the OUTPUT, so it teleport it again the same distance as if it were in the input

I can share the patch, but im not at home rn

[worn gull]

How did you made the map?

[lucid canyon]

um.. i use hint

[worn gull]

But how did you made it look like that, hint can only display text, no?

[upper vapor]

Lots of TMP magic

[hearty shard]

Convert the image to text

[worn gull]

ohh

[restive turret]

Bunch of fancy characters

[unique crane]

Yeah this is the fix for the duplicated held items btw

If anyone wants to patch it

[royal mica]

Oh that is much easier

I winder why this was not pushed as a bugfix

[restive turret]

There is so many stuff in the backlog to be a "bugfix" push

Jesus already approved PR's in labapi that means those probably already merged in the game, so soon™ we see a 14.1.4

[unique crane]

No that means they are just ready to merge

[restive turret]

:(

So probably the push will happen at idk, middle of September

[unique crane]

idk

[restive turret]

Surface zone rework probably not be pushed i guess

Bc thats a POC

[upper vapor]

It'll happen in Random.Range(0, 10000) days

[upper vapor]

#general-chat

It's a channel to chat generally

[restive turret]

General Cat

[unique crane]

Buy patreon and find out its status

[restive turret]

Current status is: ||[REDACTED]||

[unique crane]

mhm

[restive turret]

David

The gravity we have (-19.8) is inside unity too? Like in the Player config? Or the grav is only for the player and not all objects

[unique crane]

well thats for players

Added to the y velocity

[restive turret]

Velo kitty

So you guys didn't changed the Physics inside the whole thing just only the players

[unique crane]

yea

[restive turret]

Nice

[unique crane]

Pickups use normal gravity I believe

[worn gull]

From a FirearmPickup how can I get the ammo module?

[restive turret]

Template

[worn gull]

Thanks

[slender lynx]

@celest thorn avg fps is solid rn
https://maro.tiananmensquare.asia/📸/6vsk7z3t.png

250-350

[restive turret]

Man I only have like 35 fps