plugins-dev-chat

[icy knoll]

just

the effect event has always been buggy for me

lol

[upper vapor]

wdym

[icy knoll]

like

on some times

it triggers the event twice

in the same frame

and it doesn't tell me if the effect is being removed or added

so

[upper vapor]

[icy knoll]

so yeah

[tulip kiln]

Yo did anyone figure out a new way to turn a body into bones without a skeleton present?
I used this:

public void TurnRagdollIntoBones(DynamicRagdoll doll)
{
    var newRagdoll = SpawnRagdoll(doll.Info.RoleType, doll.Info.StartPosition, doll.Info.Nickname, new Scp3114DamageHandler(doll, false), doll.Info.StartRotation, doll.transform.localScale);

    if (newRagdoll is not DynamicRagdoll dynDoll)
        return;

    NetworkServer.Destroy(doll.gameObject);
    ReferenceHub.HostHub.roleManager.ServerSetRole(RoleTypeId.Scp3114, RoleChangeReason.RemoteAdmin, RoleSpawnFlags.All);

    if (ReferenceHub.HostHub.roleManager.CurrentRole is not Scp3114Role scp3114Role)
        return;

    Scp3114RagdollToBonesConverter.ServerConvertNew(scp3114Role, dynDoll);
    ReferenceHub.HostHub.roleManager.ServerSetRole(RoleTypeId.None, RoleChangeReason.RemoteAdmin, RoleSpawnFlags.All);
}

But after the newest update this makes the server disconnect itself

[icy knoll]

spawn a dummy as skeleton quickly and ig just make them take the body and dispose of the dummy

[slate flume]

I was converting Python dictionaries to C# dictionaries

[tulip kiln]

Worked 👌

[slate flume]

The problem is I keep making shit like this
Something itches my brain whenever I do the craziest one lines of code

[slate flume]

It is very buggy
I have like 3 separate issues on the GitHub about it

[true cedar]

could you have done that in a less readable way

[slate flume]

It made sense while I was making it haha

[slate flume]

The event isn't called when duration changes, only intensity
So an effect could be getting updated and the code straight up will not pick it up
Also, the duration it gives isn't accurate, because the ChangeState function or whatever does Intensity then Duration, but the event is called when Intensity is set and grabs the effect duration for the args, but the duration isn't set yet so the reference is stale, and leads me to believe that it's likely changing the duration in in the UpdatedEffect event won't actually do anything

Patches or Updating effect
I actually helped a guy figure out a patch for this a while back cause they had the exact someone question

.

[upper vapor]

Why can't you just json serialize the dictionary 😭

I'm not a python guy but there's some __ shit that lets you access the key-value pairs

And a normal serializer would be able to convert a dictionary to json anyway

json.dumps

Oh you were

O

You were making the C# syntaxes

[slate flume]

Now it's making sense 😁

Haha yeah I had this python program for a data analysis thing I was doing for another game

I wanted to port it to C# cause I know C# alright atp and I wanted better speed

[upper vapor]

Wait, did you

Why can't you load the JSON in C#

Rider has this feature called "paste JSON as classes/records"

[slate flume]

I was using VS code at the time

[upper vapor]

You can copy the object and it'll create the structure for you

Ah

[slate flume]

VS Code <<<<<

I love rider

[true cedar]

never used it but overrated

[grand flower]

Rider's great for game dev

Won't ever switch back to VS after using it

The only time I use VS is the occasional hiccup with Rider's C++ debugger that VS handles a little better

[restive turret]

i tried rider wasnt fan

[worthy rune]

btw im looking at https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/244 and had alook at the history around the FirstPersonMovementModule and FPCMotor classes and i couldnt actually find any changes that seemed like it would effect dummies. do you know if you maybe had a patch in the previous update that facilitated the behaviour

if you did thats fine, and i will just add a line to ServerOverridePosition to make dummies work, i was just trying to figure out what changes could of broke it so i could understand the problem better

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/9n671wjm.png

How can i fix this?

[unique crane]

I would check if their role changes to spectator/overwatch if you disable gameplay data from yourself

In RA

[worthy rune]

[restive turret]

use netstandard ?

[celest thorn]

I thought it broke the project

used it and it worked

[upper vapor]

Where's your fan

[restive turret]

definitly not riding

[upper vapor]

Yeah it works
You get a few warnings but most things are fine

[grand flower]

Nothing comes to mind no

No patch that would affect the bug afaik

[worthy rune]

alright

will test out davids theory just in case

[slate flume]

Wow we're all just a bunch of nerds

[grand flower]

if it helps it only affects dummies

tried going into noclip with a player and it didn't work

so it's probably just that ReceivedPosition thingy

supposing the dummy doesn't send one

[worthy rune]

its alittle odd, since FPC distrubuter should be sending the cached relative position which is just calculated each frame by doing new RelativePosition(Position)

^ for dummies and local players that is

[grand flower]

When noclipping, the game does Position = ReceivedPosition

which is the issue for dummies since apparently that's always 0,0,0

[worthy rune]

ahh

[icy knoll]

What's the method to check if someone is leaving the server? i want their last known position and role...

[worthy rune]

didnt have any shenanigans with role happen here, serverOverridePosition just doesnt work when i tested

[worthy rune]

i think you can test if the player is changing their role to Destroyed if they are leaving

[icy knoll]

they change to spectator before destroyed

[worthy rune]

there might not be a good way then

[icy knoll]

:c

[upper vapor]

check for uh

NetworkManager something

OnDisconnect

maybe

[icy knoll]

isn't that probably at the same time as PlayerLeftEventArgs?

[slate flume]

PlayerLeft args happens in OnDestroy()
I noticed that there's on OnStopClient which calls an action OnBeforePlayerDestroyed

That might be worth checking out

[icy knoll]

is there no like DamageHandler or smth that I can use to check if the person is disconnecting? there has to be some good method to doing this 😭

[upper vapor]

nope

it's just "unknown cause of death"

if you really want to i guess you can analyze the stack trace but at that point just patch

don't believe me, just patch

[slate flume]

I mean I figure adding an action to the ReferenceHub isn't a lot of work

But what do I know lol

[upper vapor]

that's like ugh

just add a DisconnectionDamageHandler

[slate flume]

Ikr

I hate actions because they suck to patch

They pmo

[tulip kiln]

Yo can we get PlayerPreAuthenticatingEventArgs moved a bit higher? It triggers after all challenge, ban and other checks are ran 😭

[icy knoll]

shouldn’t that be during preauth?

rather than after?

[tulip kiln]

It is during preauth, but for ex. banned players will not trigger it

[fresh zenith]

Heya guys do you know how i get if a person died on the Chaos Spawn Car?

pushed

[upper vapor]

check if the damage handler is universal with id Crushed and if the player died on surface

[fresh zenith]

Thanks did work

[upper vapor]

np

[random scaffold]

lol

grammatic of the nw moment

[upper vapor]

bagoly mondja verébnek

[restive turret]

lmao

[random scaffold]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/250

[upper vapor]

common david W

also this would be a breaking change 🤓

[unique crane]

Ironic

[random scaffold]

i wanna contributor role per it

is was hard

bruh

@unique crane changed

[celest thorn]

you wanna work for free for nw

[random scaffold]

no

im not wanna play in minecraft

address?

ton or btc

[winged meteor]

I can't set velocity how can I set the velocity?

[random scaffold]

just delete this line

[winged meteor]

the rigid body one?

[celest thorn]

No you cannot set the velocity

[unique crane]

You can add it

[winged meteor]

how can I add velocity?

[celest thorn]

You can?

[random scaffold]

work

[celest thorn]

The fpc one you can't

[random scaffold]

david with primiary

[celest thorn]

and the server doesn't send it to the client either

so how

[unique crane]

Thats pickup

[celest thorn]

thats fpc too

[hearty shard]

however

pickups are pickups

players are players

[unique crane]

Also you can do it?

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/gq4rx98s.png

[winged meteor]

not for me

[unique crane]

I think your intellisense died

[random scaffold]

third-party program moment

[unique crane]

Is the RigidBody property of type RigidBody?

[winged meteor]

lemme restart it

[winged meteor]

lemme check

WTF I ADDED THAT?

[unique crane]

I guess not

You added PhysicsModule?

[winged meteor]

lemme add it again.

[random scaffold]

just use visual studio

[unique crane]

Its not parent of AssemblyCSharp

[winged meteor]

bruh had to unadd and add.

[restive turret]

rider users and their broken csproj

name better duo

you are worst than

[random scaffold]

visual studio code moment

[winged meteor]

rider is better in So any ways.

[restive turret]

at this point use notepad

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/bk93irke.png

Im bored

[restive turret]

you have 2

[celest thorn]

8 years ago

[restive turret]

black and white

[unique crane]

Okay

[restive turret]

really old and v4 only

[unique crane]

As long as it isnt cracking SCP SL AC then im fine with it

[celest thorn]

Yea obv i think all of those got taken down for newer version

[celest thorn]

I don't care about cracking sl ac, who wants to cheat on this game, i think you are a delusional guy for cheating on this game or anyone who does

like this fucking game you can be good even by not just standing

[unique crane]

Ive seen kids join a server with cheats and they didnt even set it up

[celest thorn]

ANANAHAHAHAHHA

[unique crane]

like they were weirdly rotating and spinning

[celest thorn]

Spinbot?

[unique crane]

obviously turned towards nearest player

[celest thorn]

obv

[unique crane]

And then left cause I guess they couldnt make it work or idk XD

[celest thorn]

like cheaters on this game have the brain of a goldfish

[celest thorn]

Im probably gonna be roasted by some cheater dming me but at this point im going to laugh at them

[fresh zenith]

Goldfish wins

[unique crane]

I was in VC one time and we came to conclusion that goldfish has about 1KB ram

(my source is that I made it up)

[celest thorn]

I studied that in my psychology classes and a gold fish has a short memory that wipes like after a minute

the only thing they store for long time is just what food is

[unique crane]

GC.Collect()

[celest thorn]

goldfish:

while(true) {
Memory.Add(new Info());
yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(60);
Memory.Clear();
}

[unique crane]

for(;;)

💀

[icy knoll]

while(true)

[unique crane]

also that is WRONG

[icy knoll]

why do people not just do while(true)

[unique crane]

Your not collecting anything

Your just adding to the list

it wont clear itself

[celest thorn]

Now you like it?

[unique crane]

no

[celest thorn]

whats wrong with it

[unique crane]

That was to genocide

[icy knoll]

move to rust, better c

[unique crane]

Move to C#

Better C

[celest thorn]

move to python the fastest language ever

[icy knoll]

can we throw this person out the discord

[celest thorn]

why?

everyone is so mean

[icy knoll]

all ai models use python underhead, yes

[unique crane]

But they all call C in the end

[celest thorn]

im done with sl this game is full of meanie

;(

The cia is lying that this game is full of meanie?

[unique crane]

This chat doesnt like Python and Javascript

And Java

[fresh zenith]

everything is better than python even JS

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-hell-flashback-doom-hell-doom2016-doom-cutscene-gif-24300093

[fresh zenith]

yea

Kotlin is horror

[unique crane]

This reminds me to buy the new doom game

its 25% off

[celest thorn]

FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

THAT FUCKING FUn

[fresh zenith]

real

[celest thorn]

i wanted to throw my monitor out of the window

[tulip kiln]

I could choose between Java, Python and C++ on my final IT matriculation examination. Why no C#?

[celest thorn]

when i saw FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

[celest thorn]

c++

c++

Better

Those 2 are slow asf and a pain in the ass

[unique crane]

Depends what he would have to do XD

[fresh zenith]

assembly 💀

[celest thorn]

i did do some stuff in assembly

it wasn't that bad

java is far worst

[tulip kiln]

Speed didn't matter. I chose java due to it being C#-like and having a lot of util functions.

[celest thorn]

ig you like torture

Yes it is depending on what you are doing

ye

[fresh zenith]

brother made a calculator which has more memory leaks than code lmao

[celest thorn]

Never tried and never seen someone using it

[fresh zenith]

well its the "better" NodeJS

[restive turret]

i would say "go fuck yourself"

[fresh zenith]

what about Rust?

[celest thorn]

Chat i will ask all of you

Should i play

1. Dead Space Remake 2023
2. War Thunder
3. I buy and play Alien

sadly the new mafia cost alot

[true cedar]

RUST MENTION

[restive turret]

nice game but too many racists

[celest thorn]

Rust and racism?

[fresh zenith]

real

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[true cedar]

i mean

[unique crane]

Since when are crabs racist

[restive turret]

rust the video gmae

duh

[true cedar]

rust multithreading is not pretty

but rust is basically better than c++ in every way

[fresh zenith]

we were talking abt the game

[unique crane]

I know

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/wanc7drw.png

crab ARE RACIST

[unique crane]

Also coconuts migrate

[true cedar]

they're trying to implement goroutine-style threading on it but its also rust so everything takes 10 years

[celest thorn]

only crabs are racist now

for me

[true cedar]

it seems pretty interesting

it just lets you turn normal functions into async right?

well

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/19j631ly.png
I mean 1 for SL Cheater vs 0 for goldfish (they are atleast more evolved to understand the concept)

[true cedar]

sync functions into async

i do wish rust had that

yup

its still gc'd tho

which has its own issues

i do think rust async is fucked and incredibly confusing

i was doing a discord bot in rust

if u wanted an event listener to run on a different thread which u want 99% of the times

its this whole ordeal

[unique crane]

C# wins once again

[true cedar]

me?

async traits

that was it

umm

im a student rn but im going into academia

probably

[icy knoll]

i always do discord bots in typescript, but discord.js sucks i think so i need to find a new wrapper or smth

i’ve used go

fucking hate it

yeah

[true cedar]

oh go syntax is literally just

[icy knoll]

the syntax makes me dizzy

[true cedar]

they decided to make it "quirky" for no fucking reason

tell me why the fuck a map is defined like that

a lot of language devs go

you know what

we need our language to be different

lets just fuck over the syntax

[icy knoll]

i must admit that c# has the best syntax imo

[true cedar]

meh

i mean rust doesn't have that much syntax sugar

well

ig it has the run of the mill async / iterators / etc

idk i just really like rust, maybe its just because c++ makes it look absolutely perfect in comparison

oh yea

i do really like that about rust

my biggest complaint about rust is that i think people sometimes try to act like its a functional language or capable of functional style shit

which

no

nom is a really good example of this - its a parser combinator like haskell and other functional languages have, but its also incredibly annoying to use at every opportunity because of borrowing / cloning / generics / etc

you very very quickly get these massive type chains (is that a term? idk)

[winged meteor]

is it possible to remove recoil?

or is it client?

[true cedar]

diesel too - it uses rust's type system to make sure statements can be converted into valid sql, but that results in huge types and makes generic programming with it basically impossible

also makes errors practically unreadable

a lot of these functional languages are really high level

to the point where the difference between unboxed and boxed is considered very low level

so its pretty easy to abstract things

rust on the other had requires you to do a lot of mental gymnastics to satisfy the borrow checker and everything

[upper vapor]

use AddForce
you probably forgot to reference UnityEngine.PhysicsModule

[true cedar]

a good example is references - it's not uncommon when you're working with slices or iterators for things to be behind 2 or 3 references (e.g &&&i32)

[upper vapor]

HEY

i joke about java but it's not that bad

[hearty shard]

this game

SUCKS

nvm fixed!!

[winged meteor]

I never forgot I just had to re-add.

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/jsmod2-java-c/JSmod2-Core

Btw who remember about this

[winged meteor]

anyway. how do I start a grenade fuse?

[celest thorn]

someone here is a nintendo fan, i want to ask about a game lol but i don't wanna spoil it

if i search up on google 100% i get spoilers

[winged meteor]

I am a nintendio fan ask me in DMs and see if I played the gmar

[true cedar]

u cna use .copied() to remove some layers of indirection and u can use deconstruction to make it easier to work with (i.e. |&&text|)

[upper vapor]

FACTUAL statement

[celest thorn]

Axwabo what you think about this

[upper vapor]

"java is slow asf"
at least it has the convenience of a GC

[upper vapor]

it's "go func yourself"

[upper vapor]

wait until you hear about one of the first proposals for extension members

[upper vapor]

what

the

[celest thorn]

this is old

asf

i remember people talking about it at the time

[gilded thicket]

mane i got softbanned for pinging some guy

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[upper vapor]

changed color

[gilded thicket]

not off choice

hello dear moderator can i get my serverhost role back

what there are so many dev channels

i never saw this

i thought it was just 3

[upper vapor]

wdym

[gilded thicket]

activate grenade pickup

[winged meteor]

this?

[upper vapor]

if you have the grenade, yes

[upper vapor]

yes it's client side
you could override the player's rotation but that's ping-dependent and looks shit when aussie joins america

[gilded thicket]

isnt there new attachment stuff

[upper vapor]

they're not synced are they

[gilded thicket]

i swear they were in a new update no

[winged meteor]

man recoil = false would be cool

[upper vapor]

well you can put on attachments that reduce recoil but then the gun isn't customizable

plus you can't fully eliminate it

[gilded thicket]

i thought some dev said firearms were more moddable in 14.1.3. im tweaking

[upper vapor]

maybe they were comparing it to pre-parabellum?

hold on

[gilded thicket]

nevermind i am schizoprehnic

[upper vapor]

can't find it

[winged meteor]

didn't work

[celest thorn]

at the end im downloading that game

[unique crane]

which one

[celest thorn]

and ig lets give it a try

lol

[celest thorn]

Xenoblade for the nintendo switch

a game that i heard was similar to nier in style and mechanics

so why not

and i played already pyra and mythra on super smash bros

btw the game is 100% legal

pirating is bad 🏴‍☠️

[thin shuttle]

@unique crane i have a question for you what const are you guys using for AntiScp207.GetDamageModifier while returning 0f and 1f ? or it is hardocoded ?

[upper vapor]

huh

[unique crane]

@thin shuttle

[celest thorn]

why?

[upper vapor]

making a const for 0

smart

[celest thorn]

zeroDamage

just do 0

lol

[thin shuttle]

oh they have been put inside the method

i can't access them

[upper vapor]

the decompiled one is better 😭

[celest thorn]

haHHAHAHHAHA

[upper vapor]

cuz they don't exist

[unique crane]

Your not gonna access const

they just get replaced at compile time

[upper vapor]

constants are included in the class

if they're top-level at least

[thin shuttle]

if they was outside the method i would

[upper vapor]

yep

[thin shuttle]

like this one

[unique crane]

oh

[thin shuttle]

it's just not seen where it's used

(i mean supposing very hard that it's here )

on my DnSpy

On VisualStudio

[gilded thicket]

mid mid mid mid

[celest thorn]

Nier MID?

[gilded thicket]

yeah

that and the other game

[celest thorn]

nier a masterpiece

im sorry

not the best of the best

but not even mid

[gilded thicket]

me too ive never played either of those games im just trying to spread some hate ❤️‍🩹 🥹

[celest thorn]

Trust me nier is a great game

I still miss pascal

;(

[gilded thicket]

not my type but it looks good

[celest thorn]

idk maro told me to take a break

[thin shuttle]

i am just seeing something that do not take count the HumeShield

I NEED TO BUG REPORT

[celest thorn]

after 9 months of full development with just one day stop

lol

[thin shuttle]

NOW

Bug FOUND

[celest thorn]

Yamato stop finding bug

please

[thin shuttle]

i find bug by reading code

not by playing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/785689699053600848.webp?size=48&name=kek~2

[gilded thicket]

i would like to mary you yamato -- is that ok?

[thin shuttle]

i already have a men :3

[upper vapor]

mary
bloody mary?

[gilded thicket]

oh

im a girl

[thin shuttle]

i am a femboy :3

[celest thorn]

you

[thin shuttle]

(my men will transform into a girl)

[gilded thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673347615328567324/1026579680410751006/exiled.mp4?ex=6898f5d4&is=6897a454&hm=899c5ba55cbeb9a98287e27686d2f3ef379b5bb28b9f76eba184c680144a6a01&

[celest thorn]

I hope i do

[thin shuttle]

that not the updated version when i give the guys a real picture of my femboy pic

[gilded thicket]

im the guys

[thin shuttle]

he haven't start but really want

[gilded thicket]

this one

[celest thorn]

i mean as soon as i have the money i will go start the all procedure

Its full exiled...

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

the first thing i saw

[upper vapor]

this chat is

[celest thorn]

when becoming a contributor

[thin shuttle]

yes

i should give updated of this

[unique crane]

This is NOT femboy chat

[celest thorn]

Crazy david doesn't like femboys

[gilded thicket]

yes i have the video

[unique crane]

I did not say that

[upper vapor]

twitter

[celest thorn]

nah we have haters here

[celest thorn]

fuck off

[thin shuttle]

Femboy chat :333

@unique crane how do you found my outfit ?

:3

[unique crane]

Wait thats you?

[thin shuttle]

Yes

[unique crane]

Crazy

[upper vapor]

XD

[thin shuttle]

:3

the real me

also i know some people probable save the pic please do not do illegal stuff with it :3

[random scaffold]

yamato moment

[gilded thicket]

nobody saved ts bro 💔

[unique crane]

Should have not posted screenshot of yourself in a maid outfit online

Thats like

crazy idea

[thin shuttle]

nothing could go bad

right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812737440866369548.webp?size=48&name=trolling

[unique crane]

Everything will

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

You know that if you check fucking exiled is full

[thin shuttle]

(i already sent phone number e-mail real adresse my passport (without bad info)

[celest thorn]

||(im guilty too tho, but mine are private and will remain private)||

[celest thorn]

Bro you are stupid

next level

[gilded thicket]

i want too

pls

[thin shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1080986381729398884.webp?size=48&name=trol~1

[unique crane]

He is french

[upper vapor]

how to doxx yourself step n7umero uno

[unique crane]

no one is gonna go visit him

[gilded thicket]

if discord gets a databreach ur done btw

🔥

[celest thorn]

its france

[upper vapor]

bruhhhhhh

[thin shuttle]

exactly

[celest thorn]

i would never

[thin shuttle]

i always wanted but nobody did

the only things was phone number

and only people who really made it was for joking

[celest thorn]

Honestly thank god

[unique crane]

Yamato though more femboys are gonna show up

[celest thorn]

AJAHAHAHHAHAHAH

[thin shuttle]

ahahah

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/hackpwtw.png

i love having a vpn

[unique crane]

368Kb/s

[gilded thicket]

ts so tuff bro

[random scaffold]

369Kb/s

[celest thorn]

Bro its proton

[unique crane]

My honest reaction

[celest thorn]

free plan

[gilded thicket]

broke ah

[unique crane]

Also I found this very nice guy

check this out

[upper vapor]

8h 12m until death

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/blender-banana-smoothie-food-fail-fail-gif-14381891265409864362

[gilded thicket]

mullvad has great speed

[random scaffold]

what you downloading

[gilded thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/rezero-subaru-subaru-spiderman-2098-re-zero-subaru-re-zero-subaru-death-stare-gif-12504471671407549520

game

of the pirated kind

[random scaffold]

femboy simulator better

name is war thunder

[celest thorn]

Im downloading something i cannot say else im getting destroyed by a company with red color

[random scaffold]

send me too femboy photo

[celest thorn]

WHAT

bro no

[upper vapor]

"piracy is bad"

holup

[celest thorn]

im not sending anything

[gilded thicket]

guys piracy isnt good

[celest thorn]

to anyone

[gilded thicket]

dont steal

what if we asked nicely

[celest thorn]

fr

[gilded thicket]

well i actually dont want it

[celest thorn]

not to the big

N

[gilded thicket]

yeah u dont even have to send it

u can keep it

dont send it btw

[celest thorn]

and i will never

[upper vapor]

i first thought you were referring to a big red flag with yellow decorations

[gilded thicket]

u so tuff bro

t tlm tuff

why is everyone here gay or a furry what

[upper vapor]

excuse me

[random scaffold]

because all nw staff love lgbt

lol

[upper vapor]

[random scaffold]

its like a zombie mode

but when you invited to the staff

[gilded thicket]

are you lgtbq

[random scaffold]

no

[gilded thicket]

hi

[random scaffold]

hi natural

[gilded thicket]

what is that

[upper vapor]

cishet people in plugin dev chat

[gilded thicket]

theres no way theres a term for that

what does that mean

[upper vapor]

cisgender heterosexual

cisgender is like
default

😭

[gilded thicket]

ohh

[upper vapor]

best way i can put it

[random scaffold]

you make frontend on c#?

[gilded thicket]

yes

[random scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-waiting-for-text-waiting-for-your-reply-gif-14108959

[gilded thicket]

i did it once

[random scaffold]

razor pages is hell

[gilded thicket]

not really

its just user unfriendly

[random scaffold]

easier react or next js

[gilded thicket]

i just get ai to do my frontend tbh

[random scaffold]

typical ai coder

[gilded thicket]

i am not afraid of it

[random scaffold]

[TAC] moul7anout

[gilded thicket]

i do not enjoy it. i will not make it. it does not need logical thinking

[random scaffold]

download war thunder

4-6 ranks

[gilded thicket]

how do u enjoy frontend

[upper vapor]

suicide mission

[gilded thicket]

"let me just open up photoshop but i have to write everything instead of doing it graphically and i want to kms after 10 mins"

• said nobody ever

[upper vapor]

react is horrible

[upper vapor]

CSS hater

eh

i like it but it does get annoying sometimes

[upper vapor]

you just said it

[gilded thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059999625521664111/1152364169841090671/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

btw yes, sometimes i work with blazor

[random scaffold]

then what

[random scaffold]

demon

[upper vapor]

use any framework other than react

we have cool things like

vue, svelte, astro

but most people still enjoy react hell

[random scaffold]

tail wind easier

[gilded thicket]

"dont use the industry standard"

• deranged man

[upper vapor]

because it's shit

[gilded thicket]

yet u still use c#

[random scaffold]

but all used it

[upper vapor]

yes tailwind for frontend logic

[upper vapor]

that's what i'm saying

[random scaffold]

just use c++

for frontend

[upper vapor]

some people are just

[random scaffold]

its easier

[upper vapor]

ugh

[upper vapor]

what's your point with this

[upper vapor]

on the client, too?

i would like to see that

Wasm is pretty cool

[gilded thicket]

none i was just waiting for someone to call it out

[upper vapor]

okay

[upper vapor]

the current page is...

i hate

std::time(nullptr)

[hearty shard]

how many do you have

[random scaffold]

5-10

rob from other humans

lol

[upper vapor]

so sad that te serrver no longer has the "how have we not killed this mf yet" gif

[celest thorn]

Crazy

where is the white monster?

[random scaffold]

who

[celest thorn]

this thing

ngl i must say i think the thigh highs with cat paws should be comfy

[unique crane]

I know a femboy who has them

and he says they are not comfy to walk in

[random scaffold]

him name is david

[unique crane]

????

[idle depot]

Please keep these kinds of things to yourself

[random scaffold]

Primiary

[celest thorn]

idk but honestly thigh highs and a skirt are comfy asf

[unique crane]

Anyways clear this chat of

femboy stuff

[celest thorn]

honestly male peak is becoming a girl

btw bypassed the antishit of my gov

loving it

just by doing 1.1.1.1 in my dns

[random scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-waiting-for-text-waiting-for-your-reply-gif-14108959

bruh

where gifs

why dont works

[celest thorn]

logic trans or femboys?

[random scaffold]

im not see gif

(

[unique crane]

Cloudflare DNS on top

[random scaffold]

bruh

[celest thorn]

fr i love being able to download stuff freely and access website

[random scaffold]

magic

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

answer my question

[celest thorn]

bro its life experience you must do

[upper vapor]

disagree

[random scaffold]

something average between axwabo and david

[upper vapor]

peak male experience is uh

death

[celest thorn]

wait what

[upper vapor]

what is this sentence

[celest thorn]

who's the trans here? david?

[random scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859797117194731530/1375207295343923250/Klorot_belka.gif

[celest thorn]

my brain is dying trying to understand

[random scaffold]

why all gifs deprecated

im not see noone

[celest thorn]

We see them

don't worry

[upper vapor]

java reference?

[upper vapor]

i don't think so

[celest thorn]

wanna see my new domain

for file sharing

[upper vapor]

oh no

[random scaffold]

when war thunder

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/hackpwtw.png

Random screenshot

last one i took

[upper vapor]

sometimes i think to myself

"murder"

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-4569783388286649357

are you becoming dexter?

[upper vapor]

no

i'm gonna send a memetic kill agent

[restive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-lab-again-dexter-dexterss-lab-gif-26012635

[celest thorn]

Even this dexter is cool

i loved this show when i was a child

[winged meteor]

do yall think labapi will get something to set/start fuse on grenades soon?

[static meteor]

to set the fuse time you can do
TimedGrenadeProjectile::RemainingTime

[winged meteor]

well what about starting it?

                item.Base.ServerActivate();``` doesn't work

[restive turret]

SpawnActive has a timer

Automatically is -1

[hearty shard]

TimedGrenadeProjectile.SpawnActive(player.Position, ItemType.GrenadeHE, player, 0.1f);

[fresh zenith]

does anyone know how i add an AudioPlayer which is not attached to an player? like it gets his position from the player but his parent is not the player.

[hearty shard]

what

oh

you're gonna have to rely on server side syncing

so just dont add a parent and make it positioned at the player, and then every frame set the position to player

[fresh zenith]

Well i want to make it static like a box which doesn't move you know?

[hearty shard]

oh you just wanna place it once and not have it follow the player?

then just spawn at the player and then do nothing

[fresh zenith]

Ye

[fresh zenith]

Uh like how?

It doesn't Work If its Not parentet

[hearty shard]

LightSourceToy light = LightSourceToy.Create(player.Position);

[hearty shard]

what

[hearty shard]

this is for a light

but same applies to speakers

[fresh zenith]

Well i'm using Killers AudioPlayer github repo plugin

[hearty shard]

oh

[fresh zenith]

Sorry i didn't mention before lol

[hearty shard]

yea that might be it

[winged meteor]

I need a pickup to change position and add velocity

well

[hearty shard]

.Position

[winged meteor]

position

so

velocity

[hearty shard]

pickup.Position

[hearty shard]

well

uh

idk rigidbody or smth

[icy knoll]

is it possible to get a UserGroup by name? atleast i hope it is...

[hearty shard]

yes

[icy knoll]

how if i may ask

[hearty shard]

idk

i just know you can

[icy knoll]

😭

[restive turret]

Search by serverRoles

Somewhere in there is

[hearty shard]

sjelmm

[restive turret]

Yes

Hi

[icy knoll]

i dont see anything to find roles in serverRoles

😭

just to set UserGroup

[restive turret]

Some method there should contain something

[icy knoll]

there is SetGroup but that requires a UserGroup instance

[icy knoll]

it's ServerStatic.PermissionsHandler.GetGroup()

[slow delta]

Does anyone they appear see keycards appearing on the floor out of nowhere on their server?

[static meteor]

Pocket dimension moment?

[slate flume]

I've heard apparently 914 might have some issues with spawning keycards around the facility but I haven't seen it myself so 🤷

[pallid galleon]

Wait.. yes

idk what's causing it but we just have random keycards of different types appearing on the ground

[slate flume]

Pickup pickup;
pickup.Rigidbody.linearVelocity = Vector3.up;

[winged meteor]

already have it

Plus not using pickups rn

[teal junco]

known bug

im not sure why personally but this is a pretty common issue

[slate flume]

+1

[slate flume]

How tall is the player character?

I want to create a model but I need a reference point for how large a unit is in the game

[worthy rune]

unity units are pretty much just metric, so 1 unit is 1 meter

[slate flume]

Yeah but like

I don't have any idea how 1 meter scales to the objects in the game

How long is 1 unit in the game?

It's like when people duplicate keys from an image

They put a coin next to it to get a reference point

I need something like that

[worthy rune]

not sure i understand what you mean with the keys from an image

anyways, a player is 1.8 units tall, and a room is 15 units wide for example

[slate flume]

They use a penny for scale

Because otherwise the key could be the size of a door for all they know

[worthy rune]

ahh i understand now

[slate flume]

This is really helpful, thank you :)

[worthy rune]

but yeah you model stuff where 1 unit is equal to 1 meter, thats how unity/scpsl interprets it

[slate flume]

I'm doing it slightly different and way more jank because I don't wanna learn unity

I don't wanna learn blender nor unity atm so I'm using the tools I already know

I'm going to use some CAD software to make the rudimentary models I need out of primitives, export the step, process it using a python script, and then put it into my plugin

[worthy rune]

icic

[upper vapor]

CAD software for models is wild

You could use BAMER

At that point make a framework for exporting from a CAD software

[slate flume]

Then I'd have to learn BAMER

[upper vapor]

-# you could use the MER file format or the sloc format to export and then load with an existing plugin

[upper vapor]

Blender

[slate flume]

Then I'd have to learn blender

[upper vapor]

For MER

[slate flume]

I don't know blender

I don't know unity

I do know CAD

I know it pretty well actually

[upper vapor]

Insane behavior

[slate flume]

Well also I like making things nice and exact

[upper vapor]

But it's familiar so go for it

[slate flume]

But that's sort of a secondary benefit

[upper vapor]

The world without snapping and transform inputs and vertex snapping would be a horrible place

I know I'm yapping unity shit

But I hate it when two objects in a schematic are ever-so-slightly misaligned

[upper vapor]

-# bump so you don't have to reinvent the loading process

[slate flume]

Won't happen with CAD :)

[slate flume]

See okay

I have a terrible idea

But I already have like the first half of it working

[upper vapor]

Ah

[slate flume]

Which is I can just get a list of position, scales, and rotations

Then use that to place primitives

[upper vapor]

So you like fueling the map editor wars

[slate flume]

Well like I can build it in CAD, export it as a .step, and then parse that in Python

My first tests are working

[upper vapor]

How can you tell if it's a primitive
Do you check the object name or the vertices

[celest thorn]

im going to open your locker now thank you

[slate flume]

Well I build the model as separate parts
Each part is one cube or cylinder

[slate flume]

I ripped the image from the internet so go ahead lol

[celest thorn]

HAHHAHAHHA

Honestly

[upper vapor]

No spheres?

[celest thorn]

the project i wanted to work was OBJ to Prim

But its impossible

[slate flume]

For my purposes, I don't need spheres

[slate flume]

OBJ is gross

It's all triangles

The STEP format preserves the parts

[celest thorn]

Anything that is good for exporting

[upper vapor]

It's possible
It's just unity being stupid (or me being stupid)

[upper vapor]

What's wrong with triangles

[celest thorn]

Its impossible for a simple reason you cannot do much because its triangles

[slate flume]

The fact that it's not my original model

[upper vapor]

Even quad meshes aren't non-distorted quads 😭

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[slate flume]

It gives me a mesh

[upper vapor]

That's... 3D modeling basics so

[celest thorn]

yea i know

[slate flume]

STEP doesn't give me a mesh

It makes life like

1000000x easer

• easier

[celest thorn]

i will stay in hangout while playing this game, battle sucks ass boring asf, but story it seems nice ig

the stream crashed the game

FUCK

[upper vapor]

Yeah but then why are we dunking on wavefront

[slate flume]

I just don't like OBJ because it gives me a mesh and it makes my life harder because of it

That's it

[upper vapor]

For SL purposes, okay it doesn't work
But then why is it shit

At zero

[slate flume]

@celest thorn you use Yuzu?
That's crazy I used to use it too

[celest thorn]

Yea

[slate flume]

Nintendo sued them though so I stopped using it lmao

[celest thorn]

Idc about the BIG N

yuzu on top

and still fucking works amazing

[slate flume]

Me neither but they stopped supporting it

[celest thorn]

imagine if it was continued

(im playing with one of the launch titles so)

[slate flume]

Yuzu is great but because of the suit it's discontinued

All tthe best emulators got sued

[teal junco]

scp sl vertex toy when

[slate flume]

Fuck nintendo bro

[celest thorn]

only problem

THIS GAME IS ALL FULL OF BRITISH ACCENT

;(((

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-2010-movie-vector-what-the-gif-18968287

Oh wait that's vector

[teal junco]

thats funnier

[upper vapor]

Do you want a single vertex?

[teal junco]

vertex toy with list of vertices to connect to to form a mesh

[upper vapor]

Bruh

NEVER!!

The game would be too moddable

[celest thorn]

fr

too much

[slate flume]

public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
{
  if (ev.Message.Channel != VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) return;
  if (!ActiveProxChat.Contains(ev.Player.NetworkId)) return;
  
  foreach (Player listener in Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers))
  {
    if (listener.RoleBase is not IVoiceRole voiceRole) continue;
    if (voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(ev.Player.ReferenceHub, VoiceChatChannel.Proximity) is
        VoiceChatChannel.None) continue;
    listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
  }
}

So why is this not working

[worthy rune]

what happens when you try this

[slate flume]

People don't hear me when I have proximity chat enabled

public override void OnPlayerSendingVoiceMessage(PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEventArgs ev)
{
  if (ev.Message.Channel != VoiceChatChannel.ScpChat) return;
  if (!ActiveProxChat.Contains(ev.Player.NetworkId)) return;
  
  foreach (Player listener in Player.GetAll(PlayerSearchFlags.AuthenticatedPlayers))
  {
    if (ev.Player == listener) continue;
    Vector3 position = listener.CurrentlySpectating?.Position ?? listener.Camera.position;
    if (Vector3.Distance(position, ev.Player.Position) <= MaxDistance) listener.Connection.Send(ev.Message);
  }
}

This code worked

But I thought it'd be best to not bake in the max distance myself and instead use SL's proximity chat handling

[worthy rune]

ValidateReceive might be returning VoiceChatChannel.None

[slate flume]

Wha

Oh

Yeah I figure that's the problem

[worthy rune]

copy paste not working xD

[slate flume]

But why is that the problem

From what I can tell looking at the HumanVoiceModule the ValidateReceive should be passing the proximity check and returning a non-None channel

[worthy rune]

odd

[slate flume]

Is it something with visibility?

Cause the check proximity function is just calling VisibilityController::ValidateVisibility

public virtual bool ValidateVisibility(ReferenceHub hub)
{
  return !(hub.roleManager.CurrentRole is ICustomVisibilityRole currentRole) || (currentRole.VisibilityController.GetActiveFlags(this.Owner) & ~this.IgnoredFlags) == InvisibilityFlags.None;
}

[upper vapor]

it discards scpchat

[slate flume]

Wha

[slate flume]

Which is why I pass in VoiceChatChannel.Proximity

[upper vapor]

where

[slate flume]

.

[upper vapor]

this doesn't change it

[slate flume]

Why do I need to change the message to do ValidateReceive

[upper vapor]

also you should probably use the receiving event

[slate flume]

Why

[slate flume]

Because ValidateReceive doesn't take in the Message as an argument

Just a reference hub and a channel

And why would I use the receiving event

[upper vapor]

because you wanna modify it for certain players, no?

[slate flume]

I just want to send the message to players in proximity

[upper vapor]

right

but then you need to set the channel on the message

you simply check if it's scp that

[slate flume]

Then why did this work

[upper vapor]

but don't change the channel

oh

[slate flume]

Setting voice chat channel on the message has done nothing for me in the past

[upper vapor]

because

ValidateReceive returns none for scpchat

[slate flume]

Yes

And I pass in VoiceChatChannel.Proximity

[upper vapor]

but the client validates it too

and the message has ScpChat

[slate flume]

Which brings me back to this

[upper vapor]

ummmmm

[worthy rune]

was this before 14.1.3

[slate flume]

Yes

[worthy rune]

i think they made changes to this such that None now doesnt play anything on the client

[slate flume]

I changed my Prox Chat with 14.1.3 cause I was fixing up my plugin

[slate flume]

Oh

So my old code doesn't work anymore either

Interesting

[upper vapor]

i guess you can use this #1402403566932590722
but i don't get how your first code doesn't work while your new one does

[worthy rune]

it was done for to accomidate the role sync changes otherwise you would hear ghost voices every now and again

[slate flume]

It's just an updated fork of https://github.com/Jesus-QC/ScpProximityChat/blob/master/ScpProximityChat/Features/ScpProximityChatHandler.cs

[upper vapor]

checks out

[upper vapor]

i know

[slate flume]

Me neither

[slate flume]

But this explains it

[upper vapor]

test your new code in the new version, i guarantee it doesn't work

[slate flume]

Probably not

[upper vapor]

so the solution is just to change the channel

[slate flume]

Yeah

The interesting thing I noticed is that for some reason in the old prox chat plugin, setting the Channel was happening inside the loop

Which is sub-optimal

You don't need to set it with every send

[upper vapor]

no visibility control

[slate flume]

?

[upper vapor]

ah

it's done with validatereceive

[slate flume]

Yeah

[upper vapor]

but then why the distance check

[slate flume]

The distance check is for a config setting for max distance

if (Vector3.Distance(msg.Speaker.transform.position, referenceHub.transform.position) >= ScpProximityChatModule.Config.MaxProximityDistance)
                continue;

[pine parcel]

@slate flume can I message you later once you get this working for some tips on this code chunk you're working on?

I think it's very relevant to a project I'm trying to write

[upper vapor]

right

[slate flume]

Of course!

[slate flume]

Welp

It worked

[upper vapor]

@true cedar why
NEVERMIND

[unique crane]

Why

At least to readonly span 😭

If something

[upper vapor]

you can just for through the string

[unique crane]

Yea

[upper vapor]

no need for a span even

[unique crane]

yea

[upper vapor]

if ((ch > '\u0060' && ch < '\u007B') || ch == '-' || ch == '/')

*copes in pattern matching enthusiast*

[unique crane]

Whats \u0060

and the other one

as a char

[upper vapor]

grave accent

[icy knoll]

also why does everyone use for instead of foreach with collections 😭

[upper vapor]

because it's faster

and in this case we need the index

[unique crane]

int idx = 0
foreach()
idx++

[icy knoll]

fair

[unique crane]

[upper vapor]

sobbin

but then you need index++ at every continue

[unique crane]

try finally

[icy knoll]

youll need that in a for too

lol

[upper vapor]

no???

[icy knoll]

oh yeah

true

im an idiot

mb