plugins-dev-chat

[true cedar]

https://github.com/pawslee/RueI/blob/v3/RueI/API/Parsing/ElementCombiner.cs

immense amounts of effort

[winged meteor]

fine 😠

[grand flower]

Yeah I meant that you cant really do much better by rewriting from scratch over hsm or whatever

[winged meteor]

should I build v3 from source or use v2.1.3

[true cedar]

v3 is mostly stable i think if u don't use hint parameters

specifically animated hint parameters

[winged meteor]

ANIMATED HINTS???

OH HELL YAEH

[hearty shard]

Yes

you can have hints that adjust based on time

on client

[true cedar]

i wanted to make ruei support those for line heights

[hearty shard]

idk how it specifically works

[true cedar]

worst mistake of my life

[hearty shard]

it does something

[true cedar]

it follows an animationcurve

[winged meteor]

People gonna make snake game with those hints I know it can happen eventually

[hearty shard]

Or just

use the chaos card

[winged meteor]

yuh

[true cedar]

i had to rewrite everything to use one of like four different structs

[true cedar]

eve what should i rename displays

its between RueDisplay and Viewport

[hearty shard]

display!!

[true cedar]

NO

that conflicts with unity!!

[hearty shard]

...

i meant the ruedisplay

but yk

display one

[true cedar]

ruedisplay is UGLYU

but viewport is also ugly

[hearty shard]

WELL VIEWPORT SOUNDS TERRIBLE

AND I HATE YOU!

[grand flower]

I also don't like the hint system just for the bandwidth usage

[true cedar]

i cant think of any other names

[hearty shard]

guh

well whatd be the solution

well

[grand flower]

In SL? Nothing since clientside mods wont ever happen

lmao

[hearty shard]

ig have hint framework integrated into sl

[true cedar]

in the grand scheme of things unless ur updating hints every like 5 frames

the bandwidth impact will not be that bad

[grand flower]

Bandwidth and CPU

At high player counts it hits

[hearty shard]

uh .... About that....

[true cedar]

grrrr

[hearty shard]

Yea im trolling idk how much i update

Every 1s iirc

[true cedar]

puts on glasses ruei only updates when necessary

[hearty shard]

with some additional force updates depending on what happens

[hearty shard]

its for effect durations

[true cedar]

patch effect disable!!!!!!!!!!!

[hearty shard]

um

how does that make me able to accurately display the active time

[true cedar]

oh

[hearty shard]

ya

[true cedar]

well shit u got me there

[hearty shard]

although

i just send empty hint if active status are empty but

honestly ruei 3 ill make it so it just doesnt send a new hint w ur stuff

Instead of sending every 1s always even without effects

it also force updates on a few conditions like role change, spectator target change and uhhh

Sent hints and updates to stuff like proximity chat status

[hearty shard]

Same actually goes for generator status lol

only happens w a pc in the game though

[true cedar]

i was thinking of making a timer hint

problem with v3's system is that like

it updates based on the lowest update interval

so if u have a dynamicelement set to update every 1s for a timer and one set to update every 0.75s

the timer will update every 0.75s which could look odd

[hearty shard]

the timer should be seperated ngl

as in

Stopwatch or alternative

[true cedar]

wdym

[hearty shard]

Uhh ill reword
i feel like regardless you should be using an external counter like a Stopwatch for controlling time on a hint

well idk what u meant by odd, cuz it updating a lil more often would probably be okay? If its still showing the correct data

i think it wouldnt go out of sync unless ur relying on the calls to updating hints being done at the same time always, which may not be true w like force updates etc

[winged meteor]

why ain't ts working

[true cedar]

oh ur using v3

v2

idkkk

[winged meteor]

no

v2

thats

v2'

code

[true cedar]

i dont really provide support for v2 anymore considering its like

2 years od

check the position

[true cedar]

well like

if it updates every 0.750s

[hearty shard]

pai....

i dont like u..

[true cedar]

then its gonna update the hint that SHOULD be updated in 1s in 0.75s and then 1.5s

[hearty shard]

hmmm

good point

[true cedar]

so the hint is updated 0.5s early and then 0.25s late

timer hint would bypass that

it'd ALWAYS update every 1s

[hearty shard]

hmmm

[true cedar]

or like every 0.5s if theres another timer that updates every 0.5s

[hearty shard]

0.25 early, 0.5 late no?

[true cedar]

well

yea

but then for 2s

[hearty shard]

ya

i get it

hmmm

[true cedar]

see!!

[winged meteor]

darn

y pos didn't fix

evenm with "0'

ig I can try v3

but gotta find doc for it

[winged meteor]

updates happened ts yar

year*

guys

I may be retarded

I never added the plugin

to my plugins folder

in the server

[true cedar]

........

[hearty shard]

...

pawslee what the hell

Stole my line

[winged meteor]

paislee can you make hints size smaller in your thing?

[hearty shard]

<size=50%>

[winged meteor]

tanks

I don't normally use rich text lol

[true cedar]

yup!

[hearty shard]

Rage

[winged meteor]

How fix pos, I have pos set to "0" on items

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291240959857659926/1402479305132343367/SCP_Secret_Laboratory_2025.08.05_-_21.21.22.44.mp4?ex=68941023&is=6892bea3&hm=7475d57faba98a562eed5578f47bc922c6e1c2718987004b6aafa8bbe2e73cd1&

[winged meteor]

fixed

lol

[true cedar]

preform

[winged meteor]

lab-api has server-specific settings?

[static meteor]

Use the ones in Assembly-CSharp

[winged meteor]

ok

[grand flower]

After a few hours of debugging SL's codebase, it turns out that dummies do not have a received position when noclipping (FpcMotor.ReceivedPosition) which causes them to fucking vanish to 0 0 0 (probably, or invalid waypoint, who knows, can't debug the client that way cause no client stuff). Seems like sometimes they need to have noclip enabled/disabled a few times for that to show up.

Does not affect regular players. The fix for this is to assign the "received position" to whatever you want it to be, before calling ServerOverridePosition().

// fpcRole is Dummy's role.
if (Dummy.playerStats.GetModule<AdminFlagsStat>().HasFlag(AdminFlags.Noclip) || fpcRole.FpcModule.Noclip.RecentlyActive)
{
    fpcRole.FpcModule.Motor.ReceivedPosition = new RelativePosition(position);
}
fpcRole.FpcModule.ServerOverridePosition(position);  

Dunno what nw did that broke this, was working fine in 14.1.2

@unique crane

[celest thorn]

i've seen the same problem i just didn't know if it was me or what

[grand flower]

we've pulled our hair debugging it, hopefully it gets fixed in the hotfix

cause this sucks

[celest thorn]

ig this lowers tho the usage of Dummies

because now they don't need to be moved by the server

but their movement is always valid

it saves in resource but idk

[grand flower]

sweet, it'll surely offset the cost of the new crappy "get visible role" stuff

[worthy rune]

if you can make a issue on the labapi github for it, and ill have a go at fixing it

[grand flower]

👌

[worthy rune]

its probably caused by the changes introduced to make the waypoint toy

[celest thorn]

it was intended?

[worthy rune]

no

[celest thorn]

oh i thought it was for the Dummy improvement

that was written

[worthy rune]

im not sure what the dummy improvements are

might of not been a labapi thing, could be wrong tho

[celest thorn]

it says network dummy improvement

[grand flower]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/244

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/doji5una.png

[worthy rune]

was that in labapi changes or base game

[celest thorn]

idk it just says technical changes

[worthy rune]

nah i mean what document was this from, theres one for base game one for labapi

[celest thorn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DbWrMtWZBH0xXu-2eR9q-9oXQgB2BWCX7Nglf-H4r2E/edit?tab=t.hesihnciav7c

the one sent in #serverhost-announcements

[worthy rune]

ahh, yeah i got no idea what it means

[celest thorn]

AHhahahhaha

[worthy rune]

or who wrote it

[celest thorn]

i mean i could check the diff

to see what changed

[worthy rune]

gl

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/7ypi5jzz.png

found it

its just this

oh and now they can jump

[grand flower]

padding the patch notes eh?

[celest thorn]

i mean this is vague, but it wasn't like an improvement i imagined something else

no complains honestly this was a good update

(removing all of the issues)

[grand flower]

good update
everything on fire

[celest thorn]

There were worst ones

the worst one was the 13.5/14.0 when guns got changed i forgot which one it was

[unique crane]

I swear if it's gonna be the rolesync

[celest thorn]

Lol

Hello david

[grand flower]

i don't think so

we disabled it to check if that was the cause

no change

spectators saw the dummy in the void, probably 0 0 0

[worthy rune]

nah pretty sure its waypoint, due to the fact i definitely messed with that code

[grand flower]

but it had the correct role

(role sync still sucks, I hope it gets optimized better)

[unique crane]

Oh

[celest thorn]

i didn't mess up with it

still because i don't really need it

i probably had more laughs doing emotion and fade effect than anything else in this update

[restive turret]

David, can you do something with the scale?
It scales from the middle of the thing but i want to go from the foot, how would i do it like go back to ori pos?

[unique crane]

Well teleport the player up or down

Easiest way would to raycast from player position down

Untilm you find the formula for it

[restive turret]

~~From the feet how far is the middle point of the ~~ nvm roles have different sizes

[unique crane]

There is height property

Somewhere

[restive turret]

R u sure

[unique crane]

Look at 173 to code

It uses it

[restive turret]

I'm on my phone

[unique crane]

Tp code

Rip

[restive turret]

Are normal roles have hight too?

Like classd

10z

[unique crane]

Yea

Any fpc should

[restive turret]

Nice

So half it and if smaller then it tp -y
if more than tp up y half - new size

(new size - half since the other give you -)

[warped prairie]

Double it and give it to the next person

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291240959857659926/1402538736452894781/SCP_Secret_Laboratory_2025.08.06_-_01.26.42.46.mp4?ex=6894477c&is=6892f5fc&hm=084f9c7634e9ae9904320a74349fbfe4bed5c3393491d1e092b052f016487aa6&

[celest thorn]

Does someone know if the client saves the ID of Keybinds or the name

because i just changed the name of the Keybind and it got reset

[restive turret]

I think it saves both

[celest thorn]

Oh my god then thats a problem

because i dynamically change the name depending on the language

no it goes via id

i think i reset it as a mistake

[restive turret]

Well decompile and see

[worthy rune]

if you set collection id recently that will reset them

[restive turret]

@unique crane i dont see any height

Nvm it's inside character controller

[celest thorn]

No because its a bit useless for me because of US / UK servers

so pretty much its useless but i wanna know how it works so i could implement it if we decided to scale to more servers

do i set like an id to each one of them unique or i can do a keybind with 1 and a button with 1

and that will be fine?

[worthy rune]

all it does is servers with the same account id can share settings with matching setting id and collection id

if the collection id is the same on one server its and another its shared

[celest thorn]

OH wait so collection id is just something cool to say like a group id

[worthy rune]

something like that

[celest thorn]

so if i do this then its fine?

[worthy rune]

idk what your trying todo, but if you just want sharing between all servers just set them all to the same collection id

[celest thorn]

I have a menu with

Keybind id: 2 and Collection Id: 1
Keybind id: 3 and collection id: 1

Will it be fine and sync or they need to be

Keybind id: 2 and Collection Id: 1
Keybind id: 3 and collection id: 2

[worthy rune]

i mean it depends whats happening between the servers

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[worthy rune]

if its the same set up on each server both with work

[celest thorn]

Obv all share the same SSSS menu

[worthy rune]

if thats the case just set them all to the same value

using different collection ids is for when servers only share some settings between them

e.g. when you have a "vanilla" and a modded

[celest thorn]

Ok then i will use 1

for all of them

btw rn i have it 255

is that fine or if its the byte.MaxValue it doesn't sync?

because thats what the game uses

[worthy rune]

i think above 20 collection id is disabled

as to not break existing settings

[celest thorn]

so sad

[pine parcel]

what is the height of a player in Vector float? I'm trying to spawn people in random rooms in a given zone, so I can collect a list of all rooms in a zone, but using Player.Position = Room.Position spawns people in the floor. I figured adding a Vector3(0f, 0f , xf) would allow me to offset height from floor

[worthy rune]

add Vector3.up

[pine parcel]

thanks!

[unique crane]

Unity up is on Y axis

not Z

btw

[pine parcel]

oh! thanks for that tip, I definitely would've made that mistake

[restive turret]

Hight is just a float

FpcRole.FpcModule.CharController.height

[pine parcel]

got it, thanks!

[upper vapor]

just place some static wayopints

PLEASE

[restive turret]

Yes that would be goated

Does faking a scale for player works? Like doesn't it send to other player?

[unique crane]

You can send the scale message for to only specific players

[spare zodiac]

it's not what I'm looking for

[upper vapor]

something like 0.96f - scale.y for humans

[restive turret]

But does that player see the other from the middle point?
Like you see 106 half on the ground?

[upper vapor]

artificial intelligence will never beat my natural stupidity

[spare zodiac]

like I'm trying to make floor move with people so they could move to like 2000 if they would want

[restive turret]

I use value.y - height / 2 to tp with Y direction

Oh oh oh

I saw it

[unique crane]

Make floor primitive and parent the waypoint to it

or opposite

idk

[upper vapor]

when I have player out of bounds do I need to place doors still or is it handled other way now?

oh

yeah what david said

[spare zodiac]

that is smart David

[upper vapor]

just make sure you don't have more than 150 players

[spare zodiac]

that would cause issues?

[upper vapor]

too many waypoints

idk there are somewhere around 80+ waypoints by default

[restive turret]

Naaah

Your fine

[upper vapor]

so if you have 254 - "real" then death

[restive turret]

Some game will crash

[spare zodiac]

there is 255 speakers

[restive turret]

Dont worry about it

[upper vapor]

yeah mb

255 - "real"

[spare zodiac]

what does "real" mean?

[upper vapor]

funny how they didn't account for 255

[upper vapor]

base-game waypoints

[upper vapor]

RIGHT

that's why we can't use byte.MaxValue for speaker iDs

omfg

[restive turret]

Based? Based on what

[upper vapor]

on real-life events

[restive turret]

What

[upper vapor]

am i stupid

[spare zodiac]

never, just learning

[restive turret]

They didn't account for uint256.maxvalue so sad

[upper vapor]

yes i am stupid

you can use 255 for speakers

but not for waypoints

because they forgot that 0 was a thing

[spare zodiac]

what is the maximum waypoints?

[upper vapor]

should be byte.MaxValue + 1

but it's 255 instead
therefore the max waypoint ID is 254

[restive turret]

It should be a list

[spare zodiac]

why are ID's not handled with strings?

[restive turret]

So we can do however we want

[upper vapor]

byte vs string

shit ton more data

[unique crane]

Pro tip

[upper vapor]

also how would you name waypoints

GUIDs?

[unique crane]

Set firearm's stored ammo to int.MaxValue

drop it

and pick it up

[restive turret]

Ah yes my favorite 0018MFunnnyString\0

[unique crane]

[spare zodiac]

however I want
SurfaceWaypointEpicMyWaypointTtust

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Crash?

[upper vapor]

you can name it however you want

[unique crane]

Yep

[upper vapor]

but there is no reason to send that down to the client

[restive turret]

Why

[unique crane]

Cause all the extra ammo gets dropped

[restive turret]

Too many pickup?

[unique crane]

beyond max ammo

[grand flower]

We fixed that

[spare zodiac]

there could have been used something else then byte though like short maybe?

[unique crane]

Yeah you can patch i

it

[upper vapor]

imagine if ammo used ushort everywhere and stopped having random ints in places

[unique crane]

and ill do it next update too

[upper vapor]

2 bytes instead of 1

[grand flower]

Mostly fixed ammo with stacking automatically based on a grid system

[restive turret]

NW harmony patching their own game???

[spare zodiac]

more waypoints though

[upper vapor]

xddd

[unique crane]

No Ill just fix it in the code

xdddddd

[upper vapor]

base game doesn't need it

be happy that you can have something like 150 custom waypoints

[restive turret]

Or just remove rhe map

[unique crane]

Which is more than enough

[restive turret]

And you can have all

[upper vapor]

yes

[spare zodiac]

I want 2147483647 waypoints

[upper vapor]

just remake SL

[spare zodiac]

trust the process

[spare zodiac]

fun thing modding in SL is that a lot of things are pre-created and can just aim at making features

[grand flower]

Modding SL is anything but fun

[restive turret]

True

[spare zodiac]

for me it was always fun

[restive turret]

I just suffer

[grand flower]

Depends how deep you go

[restive turret]

Because server takes twice the amount to start than what i write

[spare zodiac]

of course, but making chemical system is funi

[upper vapor]

XXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[restive turret]

That's what she said

[unique crane]

[grand flower]

Kill

[spare zodiac]

[unique crane]

mods

crush his skull

[grand flower]

I just wish NW went more modding friendly and with flexibility in mind

[restive turret]

D:

[restive turret]

Will happen, in like 3 year

[grand flower]

At this point it's probably too late

[spare zodiac]

#baseTexturesOnPrimitives

[restive turret]

If we still alive

[grand flower]

lol

[upper vapor]

never

[restive turret]

Based on what?

[unique crane]

It surely is much more modding friendly than what it was 3 years ago

[grand flower]

The game has too many issues for that to ever happen, starting with the anticheat

[spare zodiac]

the game

[restive turret]

Nah

[grand flower]

Sure, but like, considering this is based on a Garry's Mod gamemode, that won't ever reach those levels heh

[south socket]

the anticheat has issues??? dont know what your talking about

[grand flower]

The anticheat is an issue

[restive turret]

Built with unity thats the biggest issue

[spare zodiac]

no because downloading from server is problem

[grand flower]

Why is it

[south socket]

what do you want Unreal Engine?

[spare zodiac]

good question

[grand flower]

Ehhhhh doesn't help especially on the networking side but I'm not blaming Unity

[spare zodiac]

who's the big brother of NW currently?

[grand flower]

Unreal's great too, especially for a game like this

It's kind of its bread and butter, shooters

[restive turret]

Create one from ground up

[grand flower]

SCP Engine

[restive turret]

Real

[south socket]

lets create SCP Engine for a single game

[spare zodiac]

that's what that one guy who created minecraft does

[south socket]

and then we are giving the engine out for free for years until we suddenly charge the devs

[restive turret]

I blame unity for everything

[grand flower]

Or just use an existing engine

[restive turret]

Reading their source code (unity) is a mess

I mean it's old src but damn

[south socket]

why would you do that to your eyes...

[grand flower]

I found something hilarious in SL's codebase today

[unique crane]

maybe because unity is cpp with just c# wrapper

[grand flower]

While debugging the broken noclip for summies

[restive turret]

The cpp even horrendous

[restive turret]

I dont expect even getting out from mono

[grand flower]

Come on NW what the fuck is this

[spare zodiac]

what does it even mean?

[restive turret]

Ah ye i was like what is that too

[unique crane]

Faking overwatch to confuse cheaters

[grand flower]

I'm in bed and hardly remember where it was but like

Yeah that sounds right

[unique crane]

Thats its purpose

[spare zodiac]

oooh I see

[restive turret]

Fake my ass

[unique crane]

I was actually thinking

[spare zodiac]

does it work?

[restive turret]

:)

[grand flower]

Funky

[unique crane]

wouldnt it be possible to make some sort of ghost player

[grand flower]

I'm just tilted at the whole new role sync stuff

[unique crane]

to let just like gmods join in

without anyone else seeing them?

[restive turret]

Would it be fucking funny if it's not

[spare zodiac]

dedicated server

[grand flower]

Because you guys just yeeted it out of nowhere and broke a shit ton of plugins

[unique crane]

No Im talking actual ghost player

would probably require to edit mirror itself a bit eh

[restive turret]

Was in last minute action so

[grand flower]

Yeah and that's ass

[unique crane]

Yeah ^

[spare zodiac]

also wtf are these new effects? How long will they stay?

[restive turret]

How long you want

[south socket]

permanently i think

[unique crane]

Faded, Lightwieght and heavyfooted
Forever

[spare zodiac]

Let's fucking go

[grand flower]

The new role sync stuff is lipstick on a pig

[restive turret]

Imagine fading in and out

[grand flower]

Mirror has interest managers

[restive turret]

Does it look hot

[grand flower]

No

[restive turret]

Lmao

[grand flower]

Guess even that's incorrect

Technically, I get what they're trying to achieve

But the solution is bad because the base system is bad

[worthy rune]

problem is a large portion of the games networking was written with network messages instead of mirror primitives

[upper vapor]

LWJGL moment

[grand flower]

Yes

What I was getting to heh

The amount of RPC abuse is off the charts

[upper vapor]

XDD

[grand flower]

Surprisingly the performance impact of the new role sync stuff isnt as heavy as I thought

[upper vapor]

may i interest you in your car's extended warranty

[grand flower]

So I guess there's that

[celest thorn]

ITS FUN WHAT YOU MEAN

[grand flower]

If SL was built using mirror's interest management stuff, and correctly stopped using RPCs for stateful things, you'd automatically get rid of a lot of information leakage to clients and the codebase would be a lot cleaner and easier to maintain

Instead of having to handle new connections and send them RPCs to sync

[celest thorn]

honestly sl is so fun to destroy bug and whatever

its fun to come up with ideas on how to do something

[grand flower]

I've already got enough of bug hunting at work

[celest thorn]

lol

[grand flower]

Modding is supposed to be fun yet I find myself working on SL like I work for NW

Instead of doing fun modding stuff

[celest thorn]

that you work for nw but with limited access

only server side

and client side can sometimes work

[grand flower]

I only do it because I like playing on Bright's and appreciate its team

[celest thorn]

i do it because im bored

all day

and i don't know what to do

[restive turret]

Ye lately after 14 i find myself hardly enjoying doing stuff in sl, i mean more stuff comes but sometimes seems like I piss against the wind

[spare zodiac]

I do it, because I was firstly introduced to development through MER, poorly building maps with toolgun. Found scripted events then and was blown away what all I can do with this game, later person called rushermaster teached me how to better build maps in unity. This continued for year before my friend teached me Exiled and stayed since.

[upper vapor]

XD

[restive turret]

The 2h startup time on server is just like

I have ryzen 5 HOW

[unique crane]

idk

My server starts in like

10 seconds

[restive turret]

Oh bc this peice of shit is one threaded

[spare zodiac]

mine also

[upper vapor]

on the host or locally?

[restive turret]

K exerate the 2h startup time

[upper vapor]

i have this and startup is like 20s

[restive turret]

Its mostly like i can go and drink a shot than go back and the server still not start

[upper vapor]

less than that actually

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Sometimes it start up fast

Other time nkt

Nothing changed on my system

[unique crane]

I dont think thats big of an issue unlike localadmin just ignoring commands

[restive turret]

Ye

Thats the other

[upper vapor]

can we kill idle mode

in the config

[restive turret]

Typing "sr" 6 time

To only register when i fucking force kill the game

[upper vapor]

sr
sr
sr
sr
sr
sr
s
rs
sr
rrs
r
rsr
r
sr
srs
rsr
s
rs
r

and still NOTHING

[unique crane]

Real

[restive turret]

I just kill the server after 3rd try

[upper vapor]

LA command processing should be ran in fixedupdate

or realtimeupdate

idle mode is just

grr

[restive turret]

Fixed more like random update

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[unique crane]

Where is it run now

[upper vapor]

idk

[restive turret]

In my

[unique crane]

And is it localadmin or server issue?

[upper vapor]

server

[unique crane]

I should be able to fix that then

[restive turret]

Copiun

[upper vapor]

or just tell people to disable idle mode

peak

[restive turret]

But i want to run as root

What wrong could happen

[upper vapor]

found it, QueryServer

wait what

nevermind

[spare zodiac]

so real

[upper vapor]

it's not returned in the other branch

[celest thorn]

that has been a problem from like ever

[celest thorn]

wtf is that the RCON?

[restive turret]

No that's connection to la

[unique crane]

it is

[upper vapor]

that's queryserver

idk what queryserver does

[unique crane]

Pretty sure that LA communication

[restive turret]

Unity skill issue

Idk

Make it the highest priority

[upper vapor]

can i use the player's steamID to calculate a hash for SSSS id? like $"Personalized Setting - {player.UserId}".GetStableHashCode()
the obvious answer is yes but i wanna make sure

[icy knoll]

it only works with int tho right?

so how are you gunna make the hash…

[restive turret]

Getstablehashcode should work

Since it's mirror extension

[icy knoll]

wtf ok that’s cool

[restive turret]

But yes should work

[icy knoll]

i wonder how that works without hitting the max limit lol

[restive turret]

Wdym max limit?

[icy knoll]

int.MaxValue

[restive turret]

Probably you can't

[icy knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

but it will be slow when trying to figure out which player is that hash tho…

[restive turret]

If you do it then probably goes back

23 + (+= 31 * char);

[upper vapor]

i can just cache the hashes

[icy knoll]

mfw server restart

[upper vapor]

per round

not that big of a deal

[restive turret]

Not like the 2 sec wait time on restart would do something

[icy knoll]

also @upper vapor you’ll have to mask SCP-3114 for the volume setting

for obvious reasons

[worn gull]

In the PlayerShot event how can I get who the player shot?

[upper vapor]

wdym mask

[celest thorn]

ev.Attacker

[upper vapor]

oh

as in

omg

[restive turret]

Attack handler

[icy knoll]

use the hurt event

[restive turret]

Or attacker

[icy knoll]

and see if the damage handler is a firearm

or

check if the dmg handler on shot is attacker

[upper vapor]

3114 has proximity chat disabled by default

[icy knoll]

what happens if you enable it

[upper vapor]

then sucks to be you

[icy knoll]

or are you not giving that option?

[icy knoll]

😭

[restive turret]

Skull issue

[agile jolt]

Do anyone know or have idea where or how game deal with that screen over LCZ checkpoints (look photo)?
I want to make decontamination possible to activate from every stage 15 minutes, 10, 5, 1, 30 sec and it works almost perfectly (it was easier then I thought but 14.3 made some changes to decontamination that break some staff, never mind), but that screen dont want to update on time, when i force decontamination to start at e.g 5 min screen update somewhere 30 sec after cassie is played sometimes even after 1 min (I think it depends on phase it is forced).
I searched thru Assembly-CSharp and cant find how game synchronize it, idk maybe im just blind or dumb but the only related class i found is DecontaminationElevatorScreen which is empty :Sadge:

[hearty shard]

decontam has option to set an offset

you can only offset timer

[restive turret]

DecontaminationController.ElevatorsLockedText

[hearty shard]

is that a thing

[restive turret]

Or .TimeOffset

[restive turret]

Yes

[unique crane]

TimeOffset is from round start time

You may need to add more than 5 minutes if the round is already running for some time

[agile jolt]

Ok ty guys I will try this out

[hushed ember]

What does the spawntoy Waypoint and interactable do? and is there any use in vanilla?

[unique crane]

Interactable toy allows you to make "press/hold E to do something"

what to do after the interaction is to be programmed by you

Waypoint toy lets you define area for relative position (if you know what it is in SL, if you dont, feel free to ask). And move player or anything in it with it

It always removed the need to spawn doors outside of bounds to let players see primitive objectives outside

[worn gull]

Hi! I'm trying to spawn a light and I get this:
[2025-08-06 14 43 43.220 +02:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] 'InvalidOperationException' occured while invoking 'OnPickupCreated' on 'SpecialItems.CustomItems.HealGunEventHandlers': 'No prefab in NetworkClient.prefabs has component type AdminToys.LightSourceToy', stack trace:

[upper vapor]

do it on waiting for players

oh wait

yeah you need to check if the map is generated before doing that

[worn gull]

Thanks

[hushed ember]

ah i think i understand, thx thx

[celest thorn]

can i eat a primitive toy?

[unique crane]

gonna be plastic tasty

so yea

Or we can make them by lore

made out of asbestos

[celest thorn]

Wait so Lore wise we are spawning big massive plastic cubes???

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-flavor-gordon-tries-smoked-oysters-i-love-the-flavor-tasty-gordon-ramsay-gif-23498186

[celest thorn]

wait let me go and ask someone

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/6iapv0gr.png

so sad

[unique crane]

The last sentence XDDDDDDD

[south socket]

guys ServerSpecificSettingsSync.ServerOnSettingValueReceived isnt working for spectators right?

like keybinds not working for spec

[celest thorn]

there's a small check bool

that you can make true to make it usable by spectators

the SSSS

if i remember correctly

[unique crane]

Yes

[celest thorn]

every SSKey has a isAllowedSpectator

or something

[unique crane]

Ive added trigger for spectators

[unique crane]

and overwatch

And I think its on by default actually

[south socket]

oopsie

[unique crane]

yea

[south socket]

thank you xd

[celest thorn]

No problem

lets go back

can i eat a cylinder plastic toy?

lets go ask

a sphere? idk some primitive toy that i could eat

[unique crane]

Capybara

[celest thorn]

i leave them for hubert to taste

he probably gives all of you capybara meat inside the basement

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/px3p2h22.png

Fuck you i want to eat them ;(

[unique crane]

Ask him whether you can eat uranium rod

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/3nthiqnh.png

i mean i want to bulk

infinite calories

idk if im gonna die in 1 nano second after just biting it

[restive turret]

What's the flavour of a uranium rod, is it crunchy?

[celest thorn]

AYAYHAHAHAHAHAH

[unique crane]

you prob wont

but it surely is gonna be a painful death

[celest thorn]

I mean for the amount of radiation not instantly

but atleast in a minute

if im lucky

[unique crane]

depends on the rod I guess

they are not all the same radioactive XD

[restive turret]

Ye taste one that was inside the reactor

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/v2oto0h0.png

there's an explanation under saying how its a stupid idea

but who cares

[restive turret]

Ye pfc

It's the uranium holder is crunchy

[celest thorn]

let me ask

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/ilghzmbt.png

[restive turret]

So indeed it is

Ask the nuclear water and some lava would be tasteful if you can hold the temperature and radiation

[celest thorn]

Lets see

i wanna taste some nuclear waste honestly

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/hrcdznek.png

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/qe4rcwke.png

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/ntpphep0.png

yea ok nuclear water

[restive turret]

I can ask the same thing

[celest thorn]

?

I wonder if its better nuclear water or nuclear meat

[restive turret]

Fuck

[celest thorn]

AGAIN NUCLEAR WATER

nuclear water is unbeatable

[restive turret]

Since the prompt involves harmful substances, I cannot answer the question directly.

Prompt:
If I unable to get any negative effect from radiation or high temperature what would taste better? A lava or a nuclear water?

[celest thorn]

let me test

it gives a result

skill issue

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/x77ja0h8.png

[restive turret]

Ok Gemini refuse, chatgpt says stuff

[celest thorn]

ChatGPT IS THE GOAT

[celest thorn]

BRIMSTONE????

YOU EAT THIS???

this is OP

[restive turret]

@celest thorn

[celest thorn]

???

what is this nuclear glass?

that btw exist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

and you can even visit

BUT NOT TOUCH

its illegal

[restive turret]

So real

[upper vapor]

3d print your food
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs reference

[upper vapor]

Nuclear nuke

[plain gazelle]

aw
tried to fake sync name/customi but doesnt seem to work so easily qwq

[restive turret]

Why every message happens when im not on pc

But immediately when on pc nothing happens

[restive turret]

Is the 16 right?
Is your viewer doesnt throw error/warn in console/log?

[plain gazelle]

Im not getting any errors
NicknameSync 2uL should be CustomInfo and 16ul should be DisplayName

But the GeneratedSyncVarSetters here have this at the end of it, which i dont remember from the AdminToy Setters

[restive turret]

I think you might be sending the wrong thing or smth i will check when home

[plain gazelle]

oki :3

You instantly get banned if you somehow have a null name or >1024 name length

lmao

[unique crane]

This is for cheaters

[plain gazelle]

Im guessing due to Steam, it should be totally impossible to set a null or >1024 name

Did your message get deleted? xD

[unique crane]

Wtf

[plain gazelle]

Naughty NW employee

[unique crane]

now it did not

WTF

[plain gazelle]

HAHAHA

[modern lark]

Got filtered

[unique crane]

Whats getting filtered tf

discord/steam

this?

no

[plain gazelle]

Yup

[unique crane]

LOL

[plain gazelle]

steam / discord

wtf why

[modern lark]

regex steam discord

[plain gazelle]

xD

[modern lark]

a

ah !

[plain gazelle]

xD

Scam reasons then

[modern lark]

yep

[unique crane]

Gg

[plain gazelle]

NW employees ban themselves for testing regex too much any%

[modern lark]

Btw, wanted to know.
How does the fade works ? Didn't find any reference inside LabAPI, I see everyone play with this 😔

[plain gazelle]

Btw since david is here in the chat
-# hehe get pinged
Do you have any idea on how to make Player A have a fake name show for only Player B
And another fake name for only Player C, etc etc

[unique crane]

I already did for cheating dw

[unique crane]

Its a status effect

as a last positive one

in RA

or in code

Fade

yea

[modern lark]

I did the giveeffect<fade> but couldn't find the fade effect

[unique crane]

Fakesyncvar

Search for slejmr's code

he has code for sending fake syncvars

[plain gazelle]

Im using his code

[unique crane]

Im gonna be honest I dont do fake sync vars soooo yea

[unique crane]

Have you updated assembly-csharp

reference

[plain gazelle]

Yeah i was asking that you might now some other way to send individual clients information about someones name, like
viewer.ConnectionToClient.Send(new SyncedScaleMessages.ScaleMessage(scale, Dummy.ReferenceHub));
Maybe there are multiple ways to pull fake name off

[modern lark]

Oh ? didn't got any error after the update, thought everything was up to date
I'll try this

[unique crane]

No

Display name is a syncvar

So you have to fake it

[plain gazelle]

Okiii, maybe Slejmur can figure it out later :3
-# He is so awesome with all this fakesync stuff

ah and nvm, the primitive setters also have methods in them

So gotta be something about NicknameSync

[unique crane]

That is autogenerated by mirror

during compile time

[hearty shard]

how about

give me source

[plain gazelle]

[restive turret]

That fucking dot

I was trying to clean it off

[hearty shard]

guh

[plain gazelle]

xD

[restive turret]

I frogor how you fakesync stuff like scale?

[unique crane]

Well you can just send message to specific clients

[restive turret]

Send deez nuts

I meant the arg

[pallid galleon]

Anyone know if it's possible to apply a voice effect, like the one from the ghost Halloween candy?

or the cake one

[plain gazelle]

Player scale?
viewer.ConnectionToClient.Send(new SyncedScaleMessages.ScaleMessage(scale, Dummy.ReferenceHub));

[restive turret]

No like admintoy

[plain gazelle]

ah one second

[restive turret]

Twerk gif

Fuck again with the dots

[unique crane]

You can decode the audio data in VoiceMessage and do some manipulation

[restive turret]

gl frogman 🙏

[pallid galleon]

I shall fiddle around with this and try to make my players sound like demons

[restive turret]

But i am already

[hearty shard]

Shhh

[plain gazelle]

I dont have anything for syncing toy position or scale
But we did rotation sync, for which you wrote me a modified SendFakeSyncVar method specifically for AdminToyBases

[restive turret]

Ah uh get the newest stuff from git, i remember ax fixed things and correlate to players since they have multiple NetworkBehaviourr

[plain gazelle]

git? :o
I only ever copy pasted code you sent to me in DMs xD

[upper vapor]

You don't

[restive turret]

Mods, server hosts are harassing me!

[plain gazelle]

this? https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/Extensions/FakeSyncVarExtension.cs

[restive turret]

Ya

[upper vapor]

If you can get the exact filter from unity (not included in the server) and apply it to the decoded samples and then re-encode it, maybe

[restive turret]

Or just get the full dll

[upper vapor]

Probably a flanger and something

[restive turret]

Isn't that code was in the old acs?

You can dl older server decompile that and reuse it

[plain gazelle]

Works!!!! :D
Thank youuuuu

[restive turret]

Lmao okay

[upper vapor]

Pretty sure it was a client filter (mixer group)

But I guess check the Halloween version

[restive turret]

Thanks to axwabo for that i didn't do things

[upper vapor]

Rip the client for the mixer

[restive turret]

Sob

[plain gazelle]

Whats PowerStatus :o

[restive turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique crane]

Thats like

Can give you orders

[hearty shard]

Mtf

[plain gazelle]

OH

[hearty shard]

Yea

[unique crane]

Listen to their orders

[hearty shard]

What david said

[unique crane]

I believe

[hearty shard]

David when custom roles and items

[restive turret]

Okay so i need 3 hamburger, maybe a large cola

[upper vapor]

I'd be surprised if the effect was applied by the server

[plain gazelle]

But can we change that field

[unique crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135329062823395358/1158005573846048898/IMGONNAGETYOU.gif

[hearty shard]

nope

i doubt ut

[hearty shard]

Can hide it

[unique crane]

woah

[hearty shard]

And show smth else by using CustomInfo

[unique crane]

im calling mods

[restive turret]

We can also ask David to see it

[unique crane]

Okay can we kill Zero

[restive turret]

Kill zero, ban eve

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/uvkmq1vk.png

Btw this is a no profit foundation for dogs rescue

in canada

[upper vapor]

Decompile the old version

[celest thorn]

do you want a dog named Skibidi?

[restive turret]

Git history

[celest thorn]

yo guys if i make a skibidi toilet plugin am i going to get banned?

[upper vapor]

Yes

[upper vapor]

I want you out

[celest thorn]

you tell me you don't want a cute dog named skibidi

i would adopt him thats so cute

[slender lynx]

next tourney is skibidi toilet tower defense

it is too late

[celest thorn]

im in

[restive turret]

Yes, i personally send a letter to a discord mod

[celest thorn]

so sad

why you guys want me out so badly

im just doing marketing research for the creator of skibidi toilet

[slender lynx]

as much as yall are hating

[celest thorn]

mega collab SL x Skibidi Toilet

[slender lynx]

we all know damn well this community would like it

this is the sl community we're talkin abt

[restive turret]

Maybe ask the Roblox community

They love exploitation

Maybe you can get 5mil like that

[celest thorn]

i mean i would be paid better on roblox

than here

if i start making crazy shit

[restive turret]

Ye ofc

I would have sent a pic but i deleted it

Was look like:
How Roblox get money:

1. Child exploitation
2. Child exploitation
3. Child exploitation

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-skibidi-mafia-skibidi-gun-rifle-gif-5491297389730988033

[celest thorn]

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

[celest thorn]

i love money and children bring alot of money

[restive turret]

Ye cus they don't know shit about it

[celest thorn]

And thats why

I love filling up my wallet with money

[restive turret]

And somehow that the government problem instead of the individual parent
💀💀

[celest thorn]

THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PROTECT OUR KIDS

AND I LOVE GIVING MY ID TO SEE YOUTUBE VIDEOS

I LOVE NOT PIRATING AND NOT OWNING

I LOVE EVEYRTHING

[restive turret]

I sending my kok and ball pic to them

[celest thorn]

I love UBISOFT

I love NINTENDO (please don't sue me)

[restive turret]

Also hl works too

[celest thorn]

not hl

but gmod

[restive turret]

Or gmof

[slender lynx]

the uk is beyond fucked rn

[restive turret]

Mexico too

Or some us country

[celest thorn]

I LOVE THE UK GOVERNMENT NOTHING BAD ABOUT THEM

I HATE 1984 ITS NOT REAL

[slender lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/joy-snow-day-happy-cat-yippee-jump-gif-10612003645248736834

[celest thorn]

GEORGE ORWELL IS SO FUCKING STUPID WE HATE HIM SO UNTRUE

[slender lynx]

i think ur losin it

[celest thorn]

1984 IS FALSE

[celest thorn]

Nah i love our governments protecting our kids

[restive turret]

By it let just say my minfd

[celest thorn]

I love giving my ids does someone want it?

im going to hand it because you know we need to verify if we are over 18

for anything even drinking water

and thats a good thing

[hearty shard]

he wishes for your soul

[slender lynx]

to look at nsfw you need to give your id facial recognition social security number and your yearly salary in the uk

its wild

[celest thorn]

Thats so amazing in this way we are protecting the kids

you know amazing job

[slender lynx]

the government KNOWS its not working at all

[hearty shard]

isnt this also for support groups for alcoholics and lgbt stuff

[celest thorn]

but our freedom is 100% safe with big private companies owning our data

[hearty shard]

fatty

wait

i got a vid for this

gimme a bit

[slender lynx]

no clue cuz i dont live in a censorship country

[celest thorn]

Those group are dangerous for kids mind, they don't know any better its best that they need to be verified, so we they don't get help, mental issues aren't real and people shouldn't seek help

[hearty shard]

see someone gets it

[hearty shard]

fatty

[celest thorn]

this is you

just stop doing a face reveal

[hearty shard]

calling me fat is wild :(

[celest thorn]

i know its mean ;(

[celest thorn]

bro friendly fire

[restive turret]

Wdym

[hearty shard]

wait

[upper vapor]

I don't.

[hearty shard]

will this image get flagged

and auto deleted

hmmm

[celest thorn]

yes.

[restive turret]

Please don't send nsfw to me

[celest thorn]

because its dangerous for kids

[hearty shard]

ill dm it

wait

i closed my dms

[restive turret]

Reporting u

[hearty shard]

ill just rename the file

[celest thorn]

are you from the UK?

[restive turret]

No

[celest thorn]

Ok then you are free to see them

[true cedar]

plugin dev chat try to talk about plugins challenge

[celest thorn]

i mean you like free speech?

thats wild

i don't like that

[restive turret]

We waiting for new game breaking change

[celest thorn]

and this is banned from the uk

[slender lynx]

plugin dev chat needs a break sometimes

[celest thorn]

yea nw is bad

[slender lynx]

reported and sent to the prime minister

[celest thorn]

brain washing our kids

[slender lynx]

or whoever runs the uk

[restive turret]

Some ai

[celest thorn]

your visa IS GONE

[celest thorn]

an 8ball

[slender lynx]

probably

[hearty shard]

well im not UK so L

[restive turret]

The card?

[celest thorn]

Im sorry for you, you don't know the real freedom of speech and handing over your data