plugins-dev-chat

[teal junco]

my plugin was primarily made for making radio stations

[cosmic echo]

sorting through spaghetti code to take parts i need is my specialty

[teal junco]

fire

[restive turret]

No comment , prob worst rhan before

[upper vapor]

I have to write docs
Have a video I need to make before that
I didn't think I'd get drafted to grandparents today

Because that's how waypoints work
If you're in its area your relative position is... relative to it
For admin toy waypoints it's a local space bounds check

That's what I didn't understand and riptide explained

[celest thorn]

Wtf do you mean local space bounds check

because i understood until now

that if the big red cross is on top of my head works

[teal junco]

waypoints toys are bounding boxes right

[celest thorn]

else fuck you im not working

[upper vapor]

256x256x256 scaled, positioned and rotated

[cosmic echo]

for waypoints does the entire player need to be in it or does only a little bit need to be in it?

[teal junco]

i would 90% assume touching any part counts

when i even slightly touch an elevator in noclip i get sweeped up

[cosmic echo]

yeah thats fair

[upper vapor]

The position does

[teal junco]

ohhh

that kinda makes sense

[cosmic echo]

I see I see

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/e7rl7yrs.png

something like this should be fine

[teal junco]

i wonder what happens if the waypoint is rotated horizontally

rotating players gonna be fire

dude waypoints have me so excited

[celest thorn]

Im confused asf

this is not ok

for the game

if i jump disconnected

if i just go outside of the center nothing

[upper vapor]

Xdd

[celest thorn]

like this it works

bruh this is massive

what if someone is doing magic parkour and they get killed by this fucker

[restive turret]

What's that

[celest thorn]

the waypoint toy

and thats a spinner that exist in atoh

[restive turret]

Tbh i would make like the up like 4 m and side +1 of the thing

[celest thorn]

it doesn't work

I don't know how or why

and its for sure the same on the server / client

[restive turret]

What doesn't work

The waypoint?

[celest thorn]

it just deattach

if i go outside of the center

[restive turret]

What

I'm confused

[upper vapor]

Embrace server side stuff

[celest thorn]

ITS SERVER SIDE

[upper vapor]

Server side everything

Nothing client

No client

[restive turret]

Are you fucking sure?

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

My tps don't like that

[celest thorn]

YES

[upper vapor]

Skill issue

[restive turret]

Skill issue then

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/vmykp8at.png

this is the new one

[restive turret]

Do +2 m for the side

[royal mica]

Are you sure that bounding box doesnt rotate as well?

[restive turret]

Or +1

[upper vapor]

My issue with waypoints is the OnMoved thing
The player isn't patented to the waypoint
So I can't create waypoints with ridiculous speeds

[royal mica]

0 clue how it works making guesses

[restive turret]

Imagine you see a player looking above from the ceiling

[restive turret]

What's the max speed?

[upper vapor]

Idk

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/xgabdhur.mp4

like you can see

[upper vapor]

But when testing in Unity myself with this approach (applying position delta) it shat itself at like 20 km/h already

[restive turret]

Did you parented the object to the waypoint or should it be other way around?

[royal mica]

Cool desync wtf

[teal junco]

wait so it only works at reasonable speeds?

[celest thorn]

I don't parent it

nor in the server nor in the client

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/v350qd51.png

[restive turret]

Maybe that's why not moving on sync

[celest thorn]

parenting just breakes everything

[teal junco]

arent you supposed to parent prim to waypoint

[upper vapor]

I assume so

[upper vapor]

Because your system doesn't support it

[celest thorn]

nope it does

if i parent a prim it works

fine

this one nope

[teal junco]

fuuuuck

i mean i can still make like cars

[upper vapor]

You can try

But they're probably gonna yeet you off above x speed

[naive charm]

[teal junco]

yeah lol

[worthy rune]

you should be able to, teleportation should work although you have to test that

[teal junco]

teleporting waypoints works right

funny timing...

[naive charm]

[teal junco]

i will test stuff with waypoints tomorrow i think

[naive charm]

[worthy rune]

waypoint toy works very similarly to elevator waypoints

[teal junco]

well one cool thing this means is that you can have seamless teleports

[teal junco]

elevators teleport at multiple points right

[celest thorn]

so sad that i sadly don't have a gizmo to compare

[upper vapor]

Maybe it was only shit for me cuz I used colliders

[slate flume]

Ever since 14.1.3 dropped I've been having this weird issue

[worthy rune]

and elevator waypoints teleport halfway thought their animation

[restive turret]

I will tell you a funny thing
I have zero clue how even those works so I just

[upper vapor]

Sobbing

[slate flume]

Me too bro

[restive turret]

Works on my machine

[worthy rune]

would like to know if it works

[cosmic echo]

works fine for me

[upper vapor]

I'll test when I get home

-# ETA: undefined

[slate flume]

Fuck

What the hell

[royal mica]

"SCP 173 contained succesfully. Containment unit Audi R8 GT" 💀

[royal mica]

Meant to reply to this fucking discord

[teal junco]

i wonder if we can parent waypoints to players

i mean... probably

[restive turret]

What if I parent a cullingtoy to player and I add lightsource to it?

[teal junco]

so scp sl uppsies?

[teal junco]

what are culling toys

[restive turret]

Culling parent or smth

14.1.3 addition

Thing became invisible or smth when not seen

[upper vapor]

Can't parent those

[forest sentinel]

of course speed is enought

[restive turret]

Sobbing, crying and

[upper vapor]

🥺

Imagine

[cosmic echo]

something that lets you make a primitive get culled if you put the primitive as a child under it or sumn

[celest thorn]

So let me understand something because im going to shoot myself soon enough

It needs to be bigger always more than the one thing its trying to speed

[south socket]

when can we finally edit the chaos car route and make terrorist attacks with it...

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

So question for you

[celest thorn]

i think this works on a cube normally

[slate flume]

I'm inexperienced with these

[celest thorn]

but not on other shape

[slate flume]

How often do you update the position of the waypoint toy?

[restive turret]

Ball

[south socket]

i like balls

[restive turret]

Clipped

[south socket]

[forest sentinel]

I just use animation

with pmer

[slate flume]

Oh lmao

Gotcha

[teal junco]

holy tuff

[ashen hornet]

Fun

[slate flume]

I have no fucking clue how to use Unity so I'm just gonna chalk that up to something I'll never do lmao

[cosmic echo]

it sounds really good in theory but isnt that good in practice tbh from what ive seen

[teal junco]

imagine shoulder carrying your teammate and you both instantly beam the first enemy you find with the full might of two rifles

[celest thorn]

So i am the only fucker in this entire fucking community that this thing doesn't work?

[teal junco]

damn

[cosmic echo]

🤑

[celest thorn]

even tho im doing everything 100% fine

[south socket]

why did u jumpscare me with the 173 sound 😭

[celest thorn]

wait i have a money idea

[restive turret]

I watch videos with no sound so lel

[restive turret]

Seems like a skill issue to me

[south socket]

yeah but you are weird

[celest thorn]

Now i made it a platform

if it works

im going to scream

[upper vapor]

No movement smoothing?

[teal junco]

that isnt weird

[celest thorn]

Nope it doesn't work still

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/2js0im5o.png

[unique crane]

🔥

[celest thorn]

what am i doing wrong now

[unique crane]

Zero

what are you doing

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/1tbtz4jr.png

[unique crane]

Have you made it server side already

[celest thorn]

ITS NOT CLIENT SIDE

[restive turret]

Make the waypoint little bit expanded

[unique crane]

or your still trying to make it-

mhm

[restive turret]

Like +1 meter

[celest thorn]

i made it 2

[upper vapor]

I'm gonna remake meow editor from scratch

[celest thorn]

just to be sure

[grave eagle]

Ahhahaha

[celest thorn]

Have fun

[restive turret]

After helping you with these stuff thats probably can be done lol

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/4poquf2n.mp4

[upper vapor]

Or I'm gonna remake map forge and optimize it

[celest thorn]

honestly meow took me so long

[upper vapor]

Finally

[celest thorn]

WHY?

[restive turret]

I mean you can potentially make it inside Godot since some of the stuff on it easier tbh and you just need to do some very basic stuff and also export to your own custom format

[celest thorn]

NO its not FINE

the edges

the fucking edges

[worthy rune]

kinda weird 173 fell out

[celest thorn]

always the fucking problem

[upper vapor]

I can make slocExporter for godot

[worthy rune]

in theory it shouldnt

[upper vapor]

NW moment

[worthy rune]

did you parent the waypoint to the schematic

[celest thorn]

YES

its parented to everything

[restive turret]

Are you sure

[worthy rune]

no im talking to @ashen hornet

[celest thorn]

Oh

lol

[celest thorn]

YES

im sure

i bet every fucking bone

[restive turret]

Good luck

[teal junco]

wait so do i parent schem to waypoint or waypoint to schematic?

or i guess it doesnt fully matter?

[upper vapor]

Shouldn't be that difficult
I don't know Godot yet

[upper vapor]

Doesn't matter really

To avoid having to rescale everything put the waypoint in the parent that you're moving

Then you can scale the waypoint freely

[worthy rune]

shouldnt, but i didnt test both ways

i forgot which way i did it

[celest thorn]

its what im doing

but honestly if it doesn't support edges

that much im fucked

its useless for me

[glass karma]

I've done this, and I get an assembly error saying it's inaccessible from my method even though the assembly is publicized

[celest thorn]

could it be the priority?

-1

[worthy rune]

wdym by support edges?

[upper vapor]

Enable unsafe code

[restive turret]

Unsafe code true

[celest thorn]

.

watch this

[upper vapor]

Negative priority just gets absoluted

Because square

[worthy rune]

maybe set the priority to 255

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

let me test

[restive turret]

UInt256.MaxValue

[worthy rune]

lmao

[teal junco]

alr

im happy we have these tho now

[celest thorn]

IT WORKS

[teal junco]

cus i had to place my map on top of an existing room😂

[celest thorn]

OH MY GOD

IT WORKS EVERYWHERE

[restive turret]

Was it still issue

[celest thorn]

NO fuck no

im crying

one night and a fucking morning

[worthy rune]

you should really read the docs we write on the wrappers even if you dont use them yourself xD

[celest thorn]

to just say oh set it to 255

[upper vapor]

Finally

[celest thorn]

let me test it now with a spinner

spinning

[restive turret]

Btw what was the reason adding the getting the closest route from room to room?

[forest sentinel]

@teal junco Laying the player on his back will not work

[glass karma]

I entirely forgot about that, crazy. thank you both

[restive turret]

I ain't complaining since would be ducking goated with my own AI

[restive turret]

What

[worthy rune]

i love this

[teal junco]

to be expected

but still sad

[celest thorn]

but i do wonder something

can you make mario galaxy with this

(i know its not but i want to dream ;( )

[forest sentinel]

He asked if we rotate the waypoint, would the player rotate as well, and the answer was no. (for x rotattion)

[unique crane]

The player rotates with horizontal rotation

not vertical

[worthy rune]

yeah i didnt know what todo there so decided to keep it the same as elevators

[cosmic echo]

this is so sad

[teal junco]

i know this cus i observed npcs doing it

[worthy rune]

was worried rotation would mess with the CC

[upper vapor]

Np

[teal junco]

CC?

[unique crane]

Can you for the funny do elevator from surface to LCZ?

[worthy rune]

character controller

[restive turret]

Give player gravity in that way

[teal junco]

aw u scared of a tiny bit of massive glitches

[restive turret]

Aint you collide with objects?

[unique crane]

Oh dammit there is collider around surface

[celest thorn]

i messed with that so many times i now everyway to destroy it

[celest thorn]

bro that has existed from like when i started playing lol

[forest sentinel]

you can teleport

[unique crane]

i forg

[celest thorn]

When tutorial were green

[unique crane]

Oh right

Just do the same thing elevator does

move a bit

teleport

[celest thorn]

i think i need to update them manually

because they desync with primitives

by a bit

primitives update every 0.1

i could use syncinterval ig

[restive turret]

Bring back update on 0

[cosmic echo]

[worthy rune]

AdminToy.SyncInterval

[celest thorn]

yea i know

don't worry :3

[worthy rune]

im very worried

[unique crane]

Zero your capable of anything

[upper vapor]

Xd

[unique crane]

we are very worried

[celest thorn]

i know the snipers are going to kill me soon enough

[upper vapor]

NW when zero quits SL development

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[celest thorn]

fr

i mean im developing something cool

and not something boring

[unique crane]

A looot of bugfixing time

see ya

[celest thorn]

so fuck all of you

[upper vapor]

Zero when NW quits SL development

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-27081893

[unique crane]

@mods

[celest thorn]

so sad

[worthy rune]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-gif-3403616098614705012

[celest thorn]

honestly if i get banned i wouldn't care that much i would be more mad for the ban reason if its just something random

lol

[restive turret]

Well well the PR for some bugfix is on git

[unique crane]

I mean on the role sync

[restive turret]

Also
For me the DropAllAmmos is throwing an error

[thin shuttle]

Someone succefully deleted some collider of the surface

[unique crane]

Yeah for me too

[restive turret]

I'm crying, have you not tested it?😭

[celest thorn]

now they don't have a network identity

so

[slate flume]

No shot

Actually?

[celest thorn]

no most likely

[thin shuttle]

Probably some do have them

[slate flume]

The real question is does it sync with client

[upper vapor]

What

[restive turret]

Wdym?
You mean faking the role syncing?
Like fake appearance?
I would love to do that more easily if you tell me where to look around

[thin shuttle]

I reminded him saying it's was smooth so probably client delete too

I know you can deleted player list

[restive turret]

I seen method for it exists but, zero clue how would i impl it yet

[restive turret]

Delete other client

[thin shuttle]

The one i did on exiled is the easiet for my opinion

[thin shuttle]

No just the player list info

Like it's no more open anything

In the same way you can delete escape menu lol

Idk if it's still the case

[upper vapor]

XDDDD

Peak

[thin shuttle]

There a lot of things than you can delete

[unique crane]

Waiting for players UI

[thin shuttle]

Just that it's not very well know

[unique crane]

is networked too

[thin shuttle]

Yeah but this one is known by everyone

Lol

[unique crane]

yea

[ashen hornet]

yes

[thin shuttle]

But now it's look shitty

[worthy rune]

i think you need to set the priority to 255

[thin shuttle]

Could we have QA role here ?

:3

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/wpn6oa25.png

Do you guys think this is too laggy? (networkserver.sendspawnmessage)

[thin shuttle]

That would be cool

[worthy rune]

if its working, im pretty sure it should look buttery smooth

[ashen hornet]

I did float.MaxValue

cause priority is a float

[upper vapor]

Horrible for performance

[ashen hornet]

for some reaaon

[worthy rune]

hmmm, that could break it but idk

[celest thorn]

how tf i could prevent from sending then the spawn message

[thin shuttle]

You talk of that to fix mtf fake role right ?

[worthy rune]

it gets squared float.MaxValue * float.MaxValue would that by inf or NaN

but if you can please try 255, and see if it works better

[thin shuttle]

It's float'infinity

[soft turtle]

My players sent this video and said that it happened after the 14.1.3 update. What could be the cause?

Maybe they updated something related to the light?

[celest thorn]

they are going to heaven

[thin shuttle]

Wrong color room change

[celest thorn]

thats why

[soft turtle]

Ahahah

[restive turret]

Lmao

[thin shuttle]

You easier put light to 255,255,255 instead of 1,1,1

Look your plugin related to light

[restive turret]

But i love 255 light

[soft turtle]

After the warhead, the color changes to 1,1,1. I don't think that's why everything is so bright

[celest thorn]

hmm and how would i prevent the spawn message to be even sent

[modern lark]

Instead of #FFFFFF it's #ZZZZZZ 😔

[restive turret]

Set isSpawn: false

[celest thorn]

Oh i forgot that exist lol

[restive turret]

Going to take 20% of your income

[celest thorn]

so 0

because for the government i have a net of -10k and for income i don't have anything

[south socket]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-harebrayne-bunny-rabbit-gif-10500821922776666435

[celest thorn]

if i don't spawn it on the network it doesn't work

it doesn't update for the client

[restive turret]

You directly sending the NetworkSpawn message

No?

[celest thorn]

Im using what mirror uses to send spawn messages

but it doesn't update and this is the only toy i've seen doing it

[restive turret]

Bro you can just send the isSpawn with the check you done before

[celest thorn]

do you mean the patch^

i don't know where you are getting isSpawn

[restive turret]

In the wrapper

But idk how you using or what you do

[celest thorn]

Yea i do the same thing as the wrapper

it just doesn't spawn it on the NetworkServer

same thing im doing rn

and it doesn't spin for the client

its static

[restive turret]

Honestly no idea what u do or how so

I literally fucking guessing

[celest thorn]

i just don't do anything special

I just spawn it

and thats it

[restive turret]

And what the patch for?

[celest thorn]

the patch i removed it

because i tried doing IsSpawn

but nope

[slate flume]

You guys make me feel so dumb sometimes

[restive turret]

That's usually happens

[celest thorn]

i honestly feel dumb asf

everyday

[celest thorn]

idk i think best way is the patch

because not using NetworkServer.Spawn makes it static

for no apparent reason

i think its something doing with netid and checks on the client?

[restive turret]

Try spawn and destroy ig

[celest thorn]

im trying to manually do the Spawn

and then spawn it inside the dictionary

[upper vapor]

Because you don't set up the net identity

[celest thorn]

no i do

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/4kge80zg.png

[upper vapor]

So if you use NetworkServer.Spawn, it works, right?

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

Then why can't you just do that

[celest thorn]

because for example if i have multiple schematics i don't want doors or other stuff to spawn when that schematic isn't loaded to the client

[ashen hornet]

it does not

[upper vapor]

Why would doors or other stuff spawn if you only spawn the waypoint

[celest thorn]

bruh its an example

the waypoint does the same thing

why would i want to spawn something that you see if i have multiple schematic in the same place that creates alot of problems

[upper vapor]

Multiple schematics in the same place

[celest thorn]

yea

[upper vapor]

Just why

Then

DestroyMessage

[worthy rune]

weird

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Or else i can use that patch and not worrying

[celest thorn]

.

[ashen hornet]

waypoint.NetworkPriority = byte.MaxValue;

[ashen hornet]

which is strange cause this works

[upper vapor]

Then you're gonna murder the spawning performance of every other networked object

[celest thorn]

so i cannot prevent it to spawn

i cannot do pratically nothing

wait

[upper vapor]

Just send a destroy message

[worthy rune]

im thinking it might be a third person only problem

[upper vapor]

You are already doing weird visibility stuff

Manual loading/unloading

[celest thorn]

I know but this would create so many problem

because every loading and unloading i don't know if the player sees it or not

[upper vapor]

Wdym you don't know 😭

[celest thorn]

Is it so hard to understand or am i stupid

[upper vapor]

You load a certain area when the player goes there

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

Then you send a destroy message for every other area's waypoints

[celest thorn]

Thats not going to be more laggy

then fucking do that patch

[upper vapor]

If you send a destroy message for everything except the one they see initially

[celest thorn]

thats going to be so fucking hard to do

[upper vapor]

I don't understand how your patch solves it though

[celest thorn]

because it doesn't send the spawnmessage

at the start when the player joins

[upper vapor]

Right

But then you don't have anything

And still need to send them manually

When it's loaded

[celest thorn]

thats fine

[upper vapor]

That means you know what to spawn

[forest sentinel]

Third person seems okay even if I look 173

[celest thorn]

what if i patch ShowForConnection

[upper vapor]

That's not called natively, is it

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/mxq1iynj.png

its called here

[worthy rune]

interesting, thanks for testing it

[upper vapor]

Yeah that's for initial spawning

[celest thorn]

then thats perfect

[worthy rune]

@ashen hornet are you doing anything in the code for your cage thing

[celest thorn]

because i need to prevent initial spawn

[upper vapor]

But you'll have to handle spawning/despawning, no?

When another area is loaded

[celest thorn]

Yea that is done automatically

i just need to prevent the client from seeing it

[ashen hornet]

No, it's a schematic

[celest thorn]

when they load in the server

[upper vapor]

Okay

[ashen hornet]

I only do this in code

    private GameObject CreateWaypoint()
    {
        WaypointToy waypoint = GameObject.Instantiate(PrefabManager.Waypoint);
        waypoint.NetworkVisualizeBounds = true;
        waypoint.NetworkPriority = byte.MaxValue;

        return waypoint.gameObject;
    }

[upper vapor]

So keep your patch

[worthy rune]

i guess it does look weird that 173 stops rotating when you look at him

[celest thorn]

Which one the SendSpawnMessage?

or the ShowForConnection?

[worthy rune]

but maybe thats fine since thats how 173 works

[upper vapor]

Maybe ShowForConnection

[ashen hornet]

How do you do Waypoint

it's not in PMER yet, what did you use?

[celest thorn]

Yea i think its best because SendSpawnMessage i use it for spawning stuff

[upper vapor]

Can you just create a set of waypoints and check if the set contains the identity

HashSet<NetworkIdentity> waypoints

[upper vapor]

Ya

[forest sentinel]

im using dummy primitive for position on schematic and spawn with code

[ashen hornet]

is waypoint parented to the schematic?

can you show me the code

[forest sentinel]

yes

[celest thorn]

Now i will log it after 0.5f

so lets see

[celest thorn]

it gets assigned

[upper vapor]

Why don't you parent the waypoint before spawning it

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/h8kf5ors.png

[forest sentinel]

Normally it is not animated so it is not a problem but if I do what you said yes I do not need to correct the position

[upper vapor]

I meant you should create a set for waypoints' network identities so it's easier to check whether to skip spawning the object

[celest thorn]

im just totally switching to NetworkServer.Spawn

at the end i use the same for everyone that is server side

[upper vapor]

Ah

[celest thorn]

ShowForConnection is not even called

[upper vapor]

Lmao

For NetworkServer.Spawn, it isn't

Ofc

[celest thorn]

oh no wait it works

yea it doesn't find some stuff im debuging to understand why

[worthy rune]

hmmm, maybe its some server sided thing. it could be that the tool gun is moving the schematic at an unideal time. one way it could be fixed is calling waypoint.UpdateWaypointChildren() for all waypoints in the schematic after each move

[celest thorn]

are auth down?

they had a moment of being down

[celest thorn]

this is so strange i cannot patch Add from WaypointToy it tells me it doesn't exist

but if i go decompile it, it does

[unique crane]

What

[celest thorn]

Oh

im stupid

i was calling the wrong class

its AdminToyWaypoint

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[celest thorn]

im sleepy

[upper vapor]

Yeah there are two objects

[upper vapor]

Then sleep

[celest thorn]

i cannot i need to fix this today

i had probably 30 minutes of sleep

[upper vapor]

You can sleep, wake up and work

[celest thorn]

or something like that

i think if i patch the AdminToyWaypoint.Add it should desync or anything? because the client nor the server attach it i think?

[unique crane]

@hearty shard Can you send me replication steps for the 106 proximity chat disconnect?

Or whole plugin preferrably

Working on a fix

[hearty shard]

Change 106 proximity message channel to Proximity

[south socket]

is the new item wiki field translation bound & scp item bound?

[upper vapor]

monolith moment

[hearty shard]

And then speak

Thats it

[unique crane]

Okay

[hearty shard]

at least looked like it

im in bed rn but if you need a replication i can probably make one?

[unique crane]

I guess this should do it

[hearty shard]

It has to be sent to a human i think?

actually no shouldnt matter

[unique crane]

Because 106 role was the only role where the fields are not set as client

for some reason

so I removed it

[hearty shard]

Ced says its not needed

because uhhh

ya

[unique crane]

Seems like it does

Every other role does it

Well maybe not for base game

[hearty shard]

939 and 106

939 does it

106 doesnt

[unique crane]

If you have any other role sync related exceptions

I know of one regarding faking MTF dc

[hearty shard]

um

i cant ping trouble

but she might know some others

[unique crane]

I pinged her in labapi dev chat

[hearty shard]

ah

[unique crane]

as she told us about the mtf one

[hearty shard]

😭

[celest thorn]

Life is so sad

[south socket]

why are you depressed now

[celest thorn]

Because spinner might desync visually

So sad

If a player does have it and the other doesn’t the client assumes the other does

And so it starts spinning

[south socket]

does anyone know? 😭

[celest thorn]

I patched the add and i think it works?

[celest thorn]

Its a interface like ItemName

Or something like that

[ashen hornet]

Items.txt

43~SCP-2176~Your very own Ghostlight! Caution: Fragile. Disrupts electronics when broken.~Ghostlight™

[south socket]

          ItemTranslationReader._cachedTranslations[result] = new ItemTranslationReader.NameDescriptionPair()
          {
            Name = str1,
            Nickname = str3,
            Description = str2
          };

yeah i think i found it.

Nickname is it i guess

[ashen hornet]

ye

(I was behind that change, otherwise I'd have no idea how translation works, lol)

[celest thorn]

lol

Btw yes i tested it

and it seems that if add doesn't add it

then even the client doesn't

and it syncs correctly

[restive turret]

Go sleep when u wake up you probably found the solution while sleeping

[celest thorn]

It happen this morning lol

[restive turret]

Joke on you i solve code issues on sleep

[heady turret]

how you spawn and correct size? I spawn and set parent, but size is insane

[forest sentinel]

I think the normal form is 256 times larger than a primitive, so divide the size you want by 256

[upper vapor]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[upper vapor]

yeah it's that simple

[heady turret]

thx

[ashen hornet]

public const float ScaleMultiplier = 1 / 256f;
waypoint.transform.localScale = Scale * ScaleMultiplier;

[vast canopy]

Am I doing smth wrong?

[obtuse spruce]

am i dumb or when im trying to change the scale of a player in RoleChangedEvent its not working

need to make a coroutine ?

[unique crane]

Known bug related to role sync

If you change it outside of player view it doesn't sync properly

There is hotfix we are working on

[obtuse spruce]

oh okay nice thx

[worn gull]

Hi! Some times I crash when the round ends and I'm getting this:

UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_Log(LogType, LogOption, String, Object)
UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogFormat(LogType, Object, String, Object[])
UnityEngine.Logger:Log(LogType, Object)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogError(Object)
PlayerRoles.Spectating.<>c:<Init>b__0_1()
PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatorTargetTracker:set_CurrentTarget(SpectatableModuleBase)
PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatorTargetTracker:OnDisable()
PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatorTargetTracker:OnRoleChanged(ReferenceHub, PlayerRoleBase, PlayerRoleBase)
PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager:InitializeNewRole(RoleTypeId, RoleChangeReason, RoleSpawnFlags, NetworkReader)
PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager:OnStopClient()
Mirror.NetworkIdentity:OnStopClient()
Mirror.NetworkClient:DestroyAllClientObjects()
Mirror.NetworkClient:Shutdown()
Mirror.NetworkManager:OnClientDisconnectInternal()
RoundRestarting.RoundRestart:OnMessageReceived(RoundRestartMessage)
Mirror.<>c__DisplayClass56_0`1:<ReplaceHandler>b__0(NetworkConnection, T)
Mirror.<>c__DisplayClass9_0`2:<WrapHandler>g__Wrapped|0(C, T, Int32)
Mirror.<>c__DisplayClass8_0`2:<WrapHandler>b__0(NetworkConnection, NetworkReader, Int32)
Mirror.NetworkClient:UnpackAndInvoke(NetworkReader, Int32)
Mirror.NetworkClient:OnTransportData(ArraySegment`1, Int32)
Mirror.LiteNetLib4Mirror.LiteNetLib4MirrorClient:OnNetworkReceive(NetPeer, NetPacketReader, Byte, DeliveryMethod)
LiteNetLib.NetManager:ProcessEvent(NetEvent)
LiteNetLib.NetManager:PollEvents()```

How can I fix it or what could be the problem?

[restive turret]

What are you doing

[worn gull]

I don't know

[restive turret]

Btw you probably using Player.List instead of Player.ReadyList

[upper vapor]

Exiled

[worn gull]

Oh

Bruh

[upper vapor]

Idk

Or cedmod

Those are my 2 guesses

[worn gull]

Then exiled we don't use cedmod

[upper vapor]

After "NW moment"

[upper vapor]

Phew

[worn gull]

or that xd

[restive turret]

Or this

[upper vapor]

Yeah how tf does the shutdown message get to the host

[worn gull]

It's my game log

And my game crashes

[upper vapor]

Ah

[restive turret]

Probably something in your plugin works on my machine

Didn't got any errors

[upper vapor]

Solution: remove the client

[restive turret]

New Player:Crash method

[upper vapor]

Lmfao

[worn gull]

Then I have to check every plugin 1 by 1

[random scaffold]

how i can realize it

[hearty shard]

yes

i dont actually know whats happening there

all you can rly go off is that its spectator related it seems

[worn gull]

That's something I can use to locate it 😄

[hearty shard]

well from what i see its trying to send to server its spectate target maybe?

[restive turret]

Try reading the error log

Read and extract related information

[plain gazelle]

[2025-08-04 14:41:08.652 +02:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] 'NullReferenceException' occured while invoking 'OnRoundStarted' on 'Site66.Features.CustomCharacters.CharacterPickerDummy': 'Object reference not set to an instance of an object', stack trace:
                                   at ServerRoles.SetGroup (UserGroup group, System.Boolean byAdmin, System.Boolean disp) [0x000a2] in <f46d4d7de96941168027ebdae2c598a5>:0
                                   at LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player.set_UserGroup (UserGroup value) [0x00006] in <bd83d6009c394d05b0e4e2080b3f314d>:0
                                   at Site.Features.CustomCharacters.CharacterPickerDummy.SpawnDummy (UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Vector3 lookForward) [0x00026] in C:\Users\ender\source\betterRepos\Site\Features\CustomCharacters\CharacterPickerDummy.cs:45
                                   at Site.Features.CustomCharacters.CharacterPickerDummy.OnRoundStarted () [0x00001] in C:\Users\ender\source\betterRepos\Site\Features\CustomCharacters\CharacterPickerDummy.cs:25
                                   at LabApi.Events.EventManager.InvokeEvent (LabApi.Events.LabEventHandler eventHandler) [0x0001d] in <bd83d6009c394d05b0e4e2080b3f314d>:0

I copied the UserGroup setting from Exiled's Dummy spawner

[restive turret]

Dummy null?

Try making the usergroup in calldelayed

[plain gazelle]

Line 43 works correctly and spawns the dummy as a tutorial

[plain gazelle]

Works! Thank youuu

[celest thorn]

Btw someone knows PlayerRaPlayerListAddingPlayerEventArgs removes players from the "N player list"

[slender lynx]

🤨

[plain gazelle]

I was just about to ask about how i could hide a Dummy from the player and/or RA list, fitting

[hearty shard]

dont make a dummy

do custom npc spawn code

[plain gazelle]

well

I have no clue how to do that

[hearty shard]

youll need this

and this

[plain gazelle]

isnt NPC stuff from Exiled

[flat vine]

Removes only one specific player from the list if IsAllowed = false

[celest thorn]

yea but from the N list thats RA only or not?

[hearty shard]

RA Player list isnt N

[celest thorn]

like thats my question

[flat vine]

Ra only

[celest thorn]

the N list

[hearty shard]

thats based on instance mode

so like

[celest thorn]

Yea i wanna test something

[hearty shard]

i gave working code

[upper vapor]

yeah, the ServerRoles component only assigns the hub in Start

you can hub.serverRoles.Start() befoire assigning the group

[celest thorn]

can some skibidi toilet in nw fix auth servers please :3

[slender lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230715608409178172/1284747780757389322/03d2892a3ae38c550954a0aeac400ffc.gif

[restive turret]

Ban forever

[slender lynx]

i dont want to be global banned again

at least let me finish my project first

[upper vapor]

we will make it happen

[slender lynx]

its been 9 months

not this far in

[celest thorn]

i wanna be global banned

so im free

[upper vapor]

YOUR project

[slender lynx]

ok well ur retarded

so

[celest thorn]

[celest thorn]

yea its maro's project

[slender lynx]

ive spent more time in unity than my actual job bro

[restive turret]

Congratulations successfully delivering a project

[celest thorn]

but this is a crazy project

[celest thorn]

[upper vapor]

what are your plans for the next sprint

[slender lynx]

just 3 more towers

then im FREE

[restive turret]

Suicide

[celest thorn]

same

[upper vapor]

xd

[restive turret]

Tilted towers?

Guys where are we dropping

[upper vapor]

on surface

can we just remove those top colliders above the outer area of gate a

like

why tf are they there

[slender lynx]

https://maro.tiananmensquare.asia/📸/ukqp7faz.png

we droppin tilted towers

[restive turret]

That's not tilted

[slender lynx]

its close enough

[restive turret]

Rotate it 45 °

How much i hate mac

[upper vapor]

tower of pisa

(piss)

[restive turret]

I building my shit testing with GitHub actions and just not works on max

Its like

Everything telling me to not push into mac

Whoever choosen it should pay 1000 for everything

[upper vapor]

mac & cheese

[upper vapor]

you don't understand

it's

Apple Math™

[restive turret]

Like it checks for it but after it doesnt??

[upper vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiAzrco8wsk

[restive turret]

Like somehow my thing got garbage collected??

[upper vapor]

wait what are you talking about

[restive turret]

I writing a C# wrapper on a hooking library for my own Overlay for games and stuff.
And this shit works on linux and win but not on mac

[upper vapor]

is it dx11

[celest thorn]

how can you delete a player from the N list because setting their lovely PlayerAuthenticationManager.NetworkSyncedUserId says nuh uh

[restive turret]

Currently only writing the wrapper

[hearty shard]

you have to do that before they join

[celest thorn]

not while they are in the server

so sad

[hearty shard]

ObjectDestroyMessage

[upper vapor]

yes

[hearty shard]

[upper vapor]

and respawn

[celest thorn]

Thats going to cause so many issues

[hearty shard]

yes

[celest thorn]

i prefer not to crash people

you know

[plain gazelle]

Where are default spawn positions saved?
Like the Tutorial spawn position?

[upper vapor]

don't send it to the original player

[hearty shard]

the role spawn point handler

[upper vapor]

get the role template

yeah

IFpcRole.SpawnpointHandler

[plain gazelle]

RoleSpawnpointManager.SetPosition(player.ReferenceHub, player.RoleBase);
should set them back to the/a spawn point if i understand it correctly?

[plain gazelle]

I cant find that method :c

ohhh extension

[hearty shard]

you gotta make it urself

i dont believe sl has it

[plain gazelle]

How could i do the RoleTypeId -> IFpcRole myself?

[upper vapor]

PlayerRoleLoader

[worn gull]

Hi! If I scale a waypoint and throw a gun into it, the gun's scale changes, how can I fix that

[upper vapor]

wtf xd

[forest sentinel]

yeh mme to

[upper vapor]

solution

don't scale the waypoint

did NW parent pickups to the waypoints but used SetParent(false)

[restive turret]

Lmao

Patch it

Nvm it's probably client sided too

[plain gazelle]

what do i do with that :x
still no idea how to get to IFpcRole ,_,

[restive turret]

Isn't there a method in it?

[plain gazelle]

PlayerRoleLoader.TryGetRoleTemplate<PlayerRoleBase>(player.Role, out var roleTemplate);

ohhh

would
PlayerRoleLoader.TryGetRoleTemplate<IFpcRole>(Dummy.Role, out var fpcRole);
work?

[restive turret]

Maybe

Or just do
roleTemplate is IFpcRole

[celest thorn]

Am i the only one or the server lags when trying to connect to central

Because im getting desynced randomly but its not lag from the machine or plugin

Everytime it tries to connect

Tps drop

[royal mica]

Yesterday we noticed stuttering our server which was happening to everyone at the same time

I do not know cause of Central, but it was happening same time

and as in stuttering I mean it was a literal pause

[celest thorn]

Yea its like explodes and then comes back

And its like player lag

But its not its server lag

[royal mica]

like the main thread is occupied with the request

[celest thorn]

Yep

[plush walrus]

Okay I been poking at this for a while, does anyone know how TryReload works?

Ignore the weird commenting, I was trying a few things, I just couldnt get it to work for me. Does TryReload check for ammo or does it just do the animation, etc

[upper vapor]

use TryGetModule

on the firearm base

[worn gull]

So only nw can fix it?

[unique crane]

wtf XDDDD

[restive turret]

Idk ask David to look into it

Cant wait for 14.1.4

@davidsebesta

[modern lark]

I hope to be able one day to use elevators prefabs

[worn gull]

I have 2 waypoints 1 in the elevator and 1 in the room, the hallway have no waypoints

[unique crane]

I mean

Look up

there is a video of someone making elevator from the waypoint toy

[restive turret]

Ye

[modern lark]

this one ?

[unique crane]

Yea

[modern lark]

Yeah, but I meant, using the elevator prefab instead of a schematic :p

Though, will try this waypointtoy

[unique crane]

It needs little adjustments but yea we can add it

[modern lark]

Sounds like a fun way to create dynamic rooms

[unique crane]

Since you can also move players with it

Maybe the waterfall room elevator will be real

[modern lark]

That's the thing I love with those elevators

[restive turret]

[modern lark]

Hopefully one day 😔

[unique crane]

Me on my way to add net identity to the bridge part just so you can delete it and replace it with your own networked bridge

[modern lark]

Please network everything

[plain gazelle]

PLEASE

[worn gull]

So I need to wait for 14.1.4? pepehands

[royal mica]

Just add the waterfall room to the prefabs and let people manually spawn it

[modern lark]

At that point, just make it networked so it's possible to change its position, no need to try deleting it

[restive turret]

Me on your way to remove the boundingbox in surface upper side

[unique crane]

Hmmm yea

BridgeToy

[restive turret]

At this point add every room to network

Please I wanna create random hallucinated rooms

[modern lark]

If all room were networked, everyone could create their own layout without much work

[modern lark]

wha

so evil

[unique crane]

HCZ backrooms

[modern lark]

oh wow

infinite Ikea real

infinite cross rooms

[restive turret]

Infinite candy room

[unique crane]

Infinite server rooms

[modern lark]

[modern lark]

This would be funny ngl

[unique crane]

You know those roblox obbies

Its gonna be

Cross 100 server rooms to get admin

[modern lark]

A player think they are done passing all those servers rooms, only to find an infinite corridor of tesla

make teslas networked

[worn gull]

@unique crane Could you please fix it?

[unique crane]

First thing regarding custom maps is to allow custom layouts

[unique crane]

If its gonna be easy fix

but

@worthy rune could you look at it if you have time?

[restive turret]

Here your fix

[worn gull]

And where I need to do it

I mean what I need to patch

[restive turret]

Idk not on pc

Somewhere pickup, somewhere waypoint somewhere where you see that exact same method

[worn gull]

I thought you know it

[restive turret]

Ye let me guess with my 8ball

[winged meteor]

How can I remove the micro speed limit in code?

[restive turret]

Or with my mirror

mirror mirror tell me where is this function

[unique crane]

I believe this is both client and server side

so you cannot do it as it will cause desync

[hearty shard]

ya

[winged meteor]

That’s sad

Should make it a server setting

[restive turret]

Wdym david said you are causing desync

[winged meteor]

I wanted to do something but it would cause detox he said gotta go

[modern lark]

You have no idea how long I've been wanting that.
Btw, this was the moment I tried recreating SCP:SL on Unreal, and this lead to me asking Hubert to remove teleportation from elevators and make them move instead

[plain gazelle]

I love being unable to join my localhost server

[restive turret]

Womp womp

(online mode off and you cna

[plain gazelle]

How can i make it so this new NPC is
npc.IsDummy is true?

[restive turret]

Npc is exiled

[plain gazelle]

The custom made player thing in the pictures from Eve

Not Exileds npc

[restive turret]

Its not from labapis either

[plain gazelle]

It is still a player

Just not authenticated

[restive turret]

That code is indeed npc and not from labapi

[plain gazelle]

Yeah and i copied it into my code and it works

I have a player spawned in that isnt appearing on the N list or RA list

[restive turret]

You probably should do is check how it determine it is a dummy

[plain gazelle]

ah

[restive turret]

Probably bc it using the DummyNetworkConnection

[plain gazelle]

It is being spawned in with
refHub.authManager.InstanceMode = ClientInstanceMode.DedicatedServer;
But IsDummy checks if the InstanceMode is .Dummy

[restive turret]

Replace to that or something i gave no clue

[restive turret]

Well then make a list of the Npc's and use that

[plain gazelle]

oke

[restive turret]

Or

[south socket]

wait am i fucking trippin or wasnt there something to change player model in this labapi update?

[restive turret]

make a new getter to it

[hearty shard]

its a custom thing i made

its literally Npcs.Npc

[plain gazelle]

Fade effect

[south socket]

dont mean fade

[plain gazelle]

Fade 255 makes player model invisible

[south socket]

i think im trippin

[restive turret]

Ye something

[hearty shard]

if you need the player out of the N list you cannot make them dummy there

[restive turret]

PlayerDistributorSync.SendRole

Or something

[plain gazelle]

okii, had a feeling
I will make a custom npc check thingy

[hearty shard]

i ususally do player.IsNpc && !player.IsDummy

[restive turret]

Or you can do is

Npc : Player

public new bool IsDummy => MyDummyList.Contains(this);

[plain gazelle]

Ill try my hand at a Player extension

[hearty shard]

this will only use the IsDummy here if you Npc.Get().IsDummy

no ?

[restive turret]

Then make a new Get too

[hearty shard]

😭

no!!!

wait

[restive turret]

You can also do is
Player p = (Npc) alreadyCreatedNpc;

[hearty shard]

yea but like

you cant

[restive turret]

Skill issue idk

Not my problem

[hearty shard]

unless you save the npc and not the basegame player

idek why u need dummies to be NOT seen in N but then also count as a dummy

why not ust .IsNpc

[restive turret]

I mean I guessed you save it bc of the custom list

[hearty shard]

or IsNPC

idk which one it is

[restive turret]

Is there isnpc

[hearty shard]

ya

[restive turret]

Lel

[thin shuttle]

That not considered as bug

[restive turret]

-# shh I directed that to david

[restive turret]

Its a feature wdym

[thin shuttle]

I don't see at what moment it's a feature

To not fading the weapon and instead modifying it's scale

[restive turret]

I mean clearly as a bug

[forest sentinel]

maybe because of parenting

[thin shuttle]

Not a bug

Said by nw developer

[restive turret]

Then a feature

Unwanted little happy features

[thin shuttle]

Unwanted features

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[forest sentinel]

If it had remained full size, I think it would have been a feature.

[restive turret]

If you do - fading

Does it become big?

[thin shuttle]

Ir's because they can't fade the item they said

[thin shuttle]

Have you already tried to make negative byte ?

[forest sentinel]

I don't want them anyway, just keep them full size

[thin shuttle]

But yeah technically it's would make it bigger but it's not possible

[thin shuttle]

No it's will be kept as getting size reduced

[forest sentinel]

Isn't fade between 0 and 1 how will this happen?

[thin shuttle]

Fade is between 0 and 255

And 255 == invisible similar to 106

They use a similar mechanisms

[restive turret]

Just call the function

[thin shuttle]

How ?

[forest sentinel]

im talking about the model's fading, not the effect.

[restive turret]

Idk

[thin shuttle]

Do you want to call a function on client

I want your suggestions

[restive turret]

Oh its ah

[thin shuttle]

[restive turret]

Fuck

[thin shuttle]

Our only way to interact is fade effect

[restive turret]

Exploit mirror

Call some rpc function

Idk

[grave eagle]

holy shit its double jump real

[unique crane]

Yes

It is real

[grave eagle]

lol

[celest thorn]

Double jump that makes you take damage

[grave eagle]

ghost lol

[unique crane]

No thats just lightweight

not double jump

[grave eagle]

im kidding

[unique crane]

you can do double jump

There is Player::Jump()

[grave eagle]

yes?

[unique crane]

which ignores grounded

[grave eagle]

oooooooooooo

i need to test it

[sinful bronze]

nooo tf2 scout

[pallid galleon]

I always hate how dithering looks in games lol

[upper vapor]

real

so real

[celest thorn]

even if you want to do it how would you know if a player is in mid air and presses again the space bar?

best way would be with SSSS

[unique crane]

Yea

SSS