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[unique crane]

Oh

no

[abstract stone]

bruh

[unique crane]

Make git issue about it if you want it to be added

[abstract stone]

🤔

It would be nice

[unique crane]

@slender lynx @celest thorn

Hope you 2 like it

[cunning hemlock]

Thank you for notifying me

[unique crane]

:3

[celest thorn]

Already recreated it

lol

before you guys added it

[unique crane]

you mean that thing that desynced u

[celest thorn]

and both effects recreated before

[unique crane]

xddd

[celest thorn]

Nope

it doesn't

[unique crane]

it quite literally did

[celest thorn]

because i know how to do my job

[unique crane]

and I had to jump one the platform

like a silly

[celest thorn]

Desync was for another reason

that i fixed

when you tested it we still relied to the Facility

• Enhanced dummy network connections.

i wanna see how dummies consume now

@unique crane how does fade effect work?

is it like you are just like transparent

and if you are fully transparent?

[unique crane]

Yea

[celest thorn]

what happens?

do you still see it

[midnight laurel]

yoo they added all the events i had to patch in myself

[celest thorn]

or what?

[unique crane]

Your the most transparent

Its basically

Your transparent

but everything still works

sound

hover tags

info

[celest thorn]

^

[worthy rune]

fade effect is the same as when 106 captures a player or scp939 amnesia

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208166976321626142/1372024902332186744/waypoint_1.mp4?ex=688e1483&is=688cc303&hm=bf34c52d7d95b382fc383a8d1a73386a8fd943508631de0e5fb060536319cacb&

But it can do that

[celest thorn]

dude you got your thingy now

[unique crane]

Yeah he does XD

@worn gull

[celest thorn]

WAIT

WHAT

YOU CAN CREATE MOVING PLATFORM

[unique crane]

yea

[celest thorn]

@unique crane can i kiss you

MUAH

MUAH

OH MY GOD

[unique crane]

thats what I meant by the moving platform XD

[celest thorn]

I can finally die

in peace

[rain isle]

👀

this will be huge

[dull temple]

I quite like some of these events

[celest thorn]

KNOWING I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH FUCKING STUTTERING

I LOVE YOU

NW is cooking

i have nothing to say

i need to test each feature

once the client comes out

and btw fuck you for changing the primitives CollectionID?

like who tf had the idea

[worn gull]

WOW

Thanks!

[celest thorn]

btw how does this work?

do i need to decompile the server to check it out

[unique crane]

Ask @worthy rune

he made it

[celest thorn]

you create a collider or what?

[unique crane]

Its bounds I guess

[celest thorn]

Im going to kiss riptide

[unique crane]

like elevator waypoint style

[celest thorn]

SO MUCH

Im crying

my prayers

i've won

[slender lynx]

yeah hubert coded that in the vc with us

[unique crane]

No he didnt

[celest thorn]

yes he did

[unique crane]

he did the Culling thing

[celest thorn]

i asked for that

[unique crane]

But then he left

[celest thorn]

no he did

we have the clip bro

[unique crane]

He did like 5%

and then left

cause I sent him message

that we already did it

XD

[celest thorn]

MARO ITS TIME TO COOK

[unique crane]

just look at the stream

[slender lynx]

wait a second

[celest thorn]

SPINNERS

[slender lynx]

now that primitives dont kill the player

[celest thorn]

FINALLY SPINNING

[slender lynx]

spinners work

holy shit

this is fuckin insane

[celest thorn]

ELEVATOR FINALLY BEING AN ELEVATOR

[slender lynx]

DUDE I HAVE TO REMAKE LIKE

HALF OF TOIF

[celest thorn]

NO?

NO

BECAUSE I WILL IMPLEMENT IT

DIRECTLY

no modification

[worn gull]

How can I make this, I made a custom elevator in ProjectMER but the items are falling out and if the elevator goes too fast the players falling out of it,

[celest thorn]

MUAH RIPTIDE

I LOVE YOU

[slender lynx]

wait so would spinners work like this now

[celest thorn]

YES

YES

[slender lynx]

no

fucking

way

[worthy rune]

hubert did the culling toy, didnt have todo the waypoint as it already existed internally

[slender lynx]

cols is SO BACK

[celest thorn]

my life is so back

[celest thorn]

its time to make this game go 30000000 fps

if we already hit 300 fps

[slender lynx]

@unique crane we appreciate everythin yall have been doin

[celest thorn]

i want to see with culling

[celest thorn]

fr

im going to cry

[slender lynx]

yeah if we're hitting 300 atm then we can prob break 500

[celest thorn]

Now its a challenge

oh and btw

meow is broken

[celest thorn]

Added CollectionId property to client-saved setting values.

[slender lynx]

im not suprised

[celest thorn]

:(

this just breaks it

[slender lynx]

oh thats actually kinda an issue

hm

[celest thorn]

nah

its time to decompile SL again

and check out

the diff and everything

[unique crane]

enjoy

[fresh zenith]

Seems Like a painting will be strangling us in the next Update. (SCP-3314 /= SCP-3114 lol)

[ashen hornet]

bruh

[icy knoll]

twas my request

:3

[fresh zenith]

Really? Lol

[slender lynx]

completely unrelated to sl but what cal you shoot

[icy knoll]

yeah

lol

[unique crane]

3114 is the skeleton

[craggy mountain]

oh my god so many new events

[unique crane]

oh wait

typo in the list

[fresh zenith]

Yea.

[unique crane]

Should be fine in labapi

hopefully

[fresh zenith]

Thats what confused me in the document

[fresh zenith]

(In the end the function is called 3314 and everyone is freaking out because their Code doesn't Work)

[craggy mountain]

this is actually intentional and northwood's gonna add that scp and this is a teaser trust 🙏

[fresh zenith]

Would be funny to see how they add it.

(they just copy paste the posters from dclass room lmao)

[craggy mountain]

real

secret scp

[plain gazelle]

Does the Fade effect mean model invisibility? Like 100% the player is invisible? But can still talk and stuff?

[worthy rune]

whats the issue?

[fresh zenith]

Would make sense imo

[worthy rune]

yeah

[unique crane]

Yes

[hard flume]

i love this update

now i can rewrite my damage system to LabApi

[celest thorn]

Can i ask you what does it means BoundsPosition, BoundsSize?

is it local?

or what?

[unique crane]

BoundsPosition is center of the bounds world space

size is...

size of the bounds

xd

[celest thorn]

bruh this is so complicated

like a fucking box wasn't enough

lol

[fresh zenith]

Exiled developers- [jk]

[unique crane]

Its just Position and Scale basically

[celest thorn]

WHAT

[unique crane]

😭

Yeah

[ashen hornet]

fun

[unique crane]

its now effect

And you can see it as spectator

like an icon

next to the talking person

[slender lynx]

btw i think some client code was uploaded to labapi

[unique crane]

?

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/wrybk7rz.png

[slender lynx]

dotnethttp

[celest thorn]

Why is this here?

[unique crane]

tf is that

[celest thorn]

like its not meant for the client?

[south socket]

HeavyFooted finally being fat effect

[celest thorn]

this is meant for bypassing the RU

[slender lynx]

im like 50% sure thats client side stuff

[celest thorn]

locks

lol

[unique crane]

Where did you get that

[limber silo]

ups

[fresh zenith]

Happens lmao

[celest thorn]

from server build

[limber silo]

fixed

[unique crane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe its supposed to be there

[south socket]

Server.SendAdminChatMessage() finally i can spam my admins

[unique crane]

Okay

time to close 30+ issues

[celest thorn]

btw david

how does the Waypoint work?

like how do i make fake elevators?

[south socket]

Wait wait wait

Added a reload plugin configs command.

[fresh zenith]

And Open 60+ new ones

[limber silo]

It is okay for it to be included as it doesn't contain any confidential information

[unique crane]

Ask riptide

he made it

[celest thorn]

@worthy rune my love, how tf can i make elevators

[fresh zenith]

Lmao i already added that in my own way lol

[celest thorn]

i don't see anything to do that

[fresh zenith]

Teleport the players position +1 with a loop

[celest thorn]

no

[limber silo]

labapi command should show the commands

Ill edit that later

[celest thorn]

???

[hard flume]

what the heck

[celest thorn]

wait

labapi has the wrapper?

[worthy rune]

create a waypoint, scale it to size, set priority to a high value e.g. 255 move it/rotate it, thats it

[limber silo]

oh you are talking about the waypoint toys

[celest thorn]

SCALE IT is it THAT EASY?

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[south socket]

i will love to spam my players with the same 127 voice line

[celest thorn]

I LOVE YOU

[unique crane]

Remember meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[young phoenix]

holy shit they listened 🥹
also related issue for the devs to close it #155

[south socket]

objectives are for the spawn waves right?

[fresh zenith]

I'm just gonna add an rick roll everytime the weapon levels up💀

[unique crane]

Im slowly closing all resolved issues

[craggy mountain]

🙏

[celest thorn]

btw

i love all of the guys at nw

<3

after this update i think i have nothing else to ask

because all of my problems are solved in life

btw who wrote the changelog did a mistake

CollectionId doesn't exist

its nowhere to be seen

[icy knoll]

@worthy rune

[celest thorn]

OH its for SSSS

[limber silo]

it is clientside

[celest thorn]

I found it

its for SSS

[worthy rune]

oh, was wondering why you said primitives before lol

that explains it

[celest thorn]

I was confused too

i saw the only thing changing on the decomp

just

[worn gull]

With this I can make ais/bots?

[harsh thorn]

it is meant to be there

[celest thorn]

Fr?

and why?

[harsh thorn]

because why should it not be?

[celest thorn]

like for calling Centrals without error?

[harsh thorn]

would you want servers to not be able to make webrequests

[celest thorn]

Its not called anywhere

[harsh thorn]

its possible the class wasnt entirely ifdef'ed out

[unique crane]

It finds path from Room A to room B

not any obstructions or anything

[harsh thorn]

likely to avoid some kind of error

we have multiple classes that are empty on the server

[celest thorn]

This means finally baking?

of navmesh

[unique crane]

huh

[true cedar]

someone really wanted an excuse to use dijkstra

[unique crane]

You can bake that

it just behaves weird

[unique crane]

I just though it was nice addition ):

[celest thorn]

Honestly i don't find any way to shit on this update

i have to say just peak

once in my life im saying this

NW actually cooked

i don't think there's anyone here complaning

everything added was features asked by the community for a long time and mostly all related to how Waypoints worked

and this got added

i think who shits on this really needs to be thinking how this game looked 2 years ago

lol

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/c383jmwa.png

i can sleep at night now

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/y4xw5two.png

WTF IS THIS DOMAIN

[ashen hornet]

a cool one

[slender lynx]

thats been a nw domain for like

years

[ashen hornet]

https://youshouldnthavebeenhacking.com

[celest thorn]

who did it

a smart guy who wanted to troll

[slender lynx]

smart fella

[celest thorn]

i didn't know the existence

[harsh thorn]

it was registered by some TS person like 4 years ago

then it was transferred to us

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/ey3tpt2y.png

why?

[harsh thorn]

because you shouldnt touch it

[celest thorn]

Oh but you know

harmony patch

[harsh thorn]

well, im not sure why you would want to patch that

you cant use custom central servers as prohibited by the eula

[celest thorn]

Idk but why being repetitive

and adding that

[harsh thorn]

???

i dont see the problem

[celest thorn]

scpsecretlaboratory.com

why?

[celest thorn]

like its not that one ok?

[celest thorn]

Why should it be Weak?

[ashen hornet]

Russia bypass

[harsh thorn]

because russia blocks tls 1.3

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[ashen hornet]

They were 1984'd

[celest thorn]

i mean UK too

is SL going to check my id to play the game?

(not mine im not from the land of the TEA)

[harsh thorn]

well the UK isnt blocking ECDH and tls 1.3 yet because it makes it so they cant check what domain you are connecting to

[restive turret]

Why the update always happens when im not home or toxicated with alcohol

[slender lynx]

face id verification

[celest thorn]

Bro this is a cool update

[ashen hornet]

don't drink

ez

[celest thorn]

LOL

[limber silo]

you have 46 hours

[celest thorn]

btw 2006 game bypasses it

[unique crane]

For those who were asking about the fade effect

[slender lynx]

if you drink more the alcohol overflows back to 0

[unique crane]

Intensity 100:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329072632745824257/1400952449833107610/image.png?ex=688e8224&is=688d30a4&hm=0251692b903caa3e668d8db3ab508c64584af60e934222ccc144076e91b094ea&

[harsh thorn]

epic image fail

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tekashi-69-fade-out-peace-gif-15141419

[unique crane]

150
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329072632745824257/1400952501976436898/image.png?ex=688e8230&is=688d30b0&hm=0acd98b06b48a35e9c4c9efbb6ae01740075cc74fa2861604f0b34121bfe89b5&

200
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329072632745824257/1400952538752094318/image.png?ex=688e8239&is=688d30b9&hm=aeeb1c6a8a62256c7add1bbe02fea350f404fddefca96b859fe3163856ff843f&

[restive turret]

Wtf thats nice update I gonnna read it

[celest thorn]

LEAVE BRO ALONE

[restive turret]

Is that the promised 14.1.2?

[celest thorn]

he is about to disappear

[slender lynx]

i assume at 255 footsteps can still be heard

[unique crane]

Yes

[limber silo]

ghosts are now real

[unique crane]

Who is making Phasmo in SL

And here is the lightweight / heavy footed effect

[static meteor]

My suggestion was added

[restive turret]

Thanks for this update LabApi & SL team, the update GOATED for labapi

Still missing some thing but probably be added in 14 or 15

Liek micro ?

[unique crane]

Didnt make it in

[static meteor]

[icy knoll]

i have a feeling like the update after this will be even better for labapi

[restive turret]

:( sadge but i can wait

[restive turret]

Every update is better for long term

[unique crane]

You are lucky since you can check the QA channel

[restive turret]

That helps modding

[icy knoll]

exactly

[restive turret]

[icy knoll]

i wish i could check the internal git tho...

[restive turret]

david committed gdezoi6ew3ths36hd to labapi-test

[hexed sparrow]

Hello guys, i'm newbie-newbie in coding, where do I get information from, how and what can I use? For example, how can I find out how to change the role of a player with a RoleTypeId.Spectator on RoleTypeId.SCP939? Is there any source where different events are scheduled there and blah blah? (I just don't understand how and where to get the information)
The people who make the guide on YouTube know what their code is responsible for, but it's not clear to me how I can know what I don't know at all, a person is doing something, but where did he get it from - it's not clear yet

[south socket]

finally the mcdonalds update is here

[static meteor]

if (player.Role == RoleTypeId.Spectator)
player.SetRole(RoleTypeId.Scp939)

[restive turret]

Are you a "just a happy meal" or a "6 hamburger, 2 big fries and 2 mcflurry" guy?

[south socket]

ofc the 12 hamburger, 4 big fries and 4 mcflurry one

[restive turret]

Nice Heavy footed effect you have

[south socket]

[restive turret]

Wait i just realized you doubled it

[south socket]

YES

[static meteor]

So next update is 14.1.4 or 15.0

[restive turret]

/// <summary>
    /// Gets or sets whether the warhead should be enabled.
    /// </summary>
    public bool Enabled { get; }

It's only get

[worthy rune]

where is this?

[restive turret]

LabApi/Events/Arguments/PlayerEvents/PlayerInteractingWarheadLeverEventArgs.cs

[worthy rune]

base game uses it, so setting it should be fine

[restive turret]

But only has better

*getter

[worthy rune]

yeah ik

[west tide]

Why isn't this working?
Can someone explain it to me?

[worthy rune]

you can pr the change, or ill do it

[restive turret]

I'm in bed and toxicated but if u wish

Also
LabApi/Events/Arguments/PlayerEvents/PlayerZoneChangedEventArgs.cs
Gets the new rom.

[worn gull]

Will you add Waypoints to ProjectMER?

[ashen hornet]

probably

[restive turret]

This is goated

public static List<Room> FindPath(Room start, Room end, Func<Room, int> weightFunction)

[worn gull]

[restive turret]

Thank you whoever did that!!

[worthy rune]

that was davids doing

[static meteor]

Do you have Assembly-CSharp.dll refrenced

[west tide]

Thx

[restive turret]

Btw do you still want the pr or you doing it?

[worthy rune]

up to you, i can always do it later if i dont forget

[worn gull]

Does the room null bug fixed so the fog will be the wrong type? (If a player have a primitive under and over)

[worthy rune]

dont think so

[restive turret]

LabApi/Events/Arguments/PlayerEvents/PlayerZoneChangedEventArgs.cs

[worthy rune]

the github issue tracker should be up to date now, so if theres an issue you need to know about if its fixed or not you should be able to check that

[worn gull]

Okay, I know this issue is up there bc when I created it, it was duplicate

[restive turret]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/239

[ashen hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947857954655322133/1400971535094779965/Culling.mp4?ex=688e93ea&is=688d426a&hm=421d5f1e533d7e460496a795c46199aa499547c5659f023a3a493ce975773e91&

[worn gull]

Wow, NW cooked here 😄

This will replace MERO

[restive turret]

In here
LabApi/Events/Arguments/Scp127Events/Scp127LevellingUpEventArgs.cs
Should have setters to what Tier it goes to?

[restive turret]

Okey this done

[restive turret]

I bet meow will abuse this

🔥

Okay time to be eepy

[hearty shard]

Uh oh

Not good!

@worthy rune the change for client to reject voice message if client validation is None how would that impact stuff?

this might break my proximity system lol

[worthy rune]

im not sure what that change is tbh

[stuck peak]

how come you don't use the Proximity channel?

[worthy rune]

which change log was that in anyway

[hearty shard]

i do but wouldnt it validate it to None on client?

[stuck peak]

labapi one

[hearty shard]

If scp to human

[stuck peak]

hmm I'll check

[hearty shard]

Nah the big one

the game one

At very bottom

[worthy rune]

oh probably @harsh thorn knows

[stuck peak]

oh yeah I was looking at that one

[hearty shard]

moment

[stuck peak]

proximity would work

[harsh thorn]

define how your proximity system works

scp proximity chat?

[hearty shard]

Yea

Change the msg and send it manually

w proximity as its channel

[harsh thorn]

well it should work i think

[stuck peak]

well validatereceive runs on the server

[hearty shard]

oh okay

[hearty shard]

oh.

[harsh thorn]

it also runs on the client

[hearty shard]

Yea thats what i thought from changelog

[harsh thorn]

cuz the scp voice module is inheriting globalmodule

[hearty shard]

uh

[hearty shard]

Whats the check proximity

[harsh thorn]

it checks the proximity of the player to the receiver

[hearty shard]

whats the distance

[harsh thorn]

dynamic

[hearty shard]

guh?

[harsh thorn]

depends on what the visabilitycontroller says

[hearty shard]

can you show

[harsh thorn]

its server code

you can see it

[hearty shard]

im in bed

lul

[harsh thorn]

well for humans its like 60 or something

i idk

[hearty shard]

60 meters?

coolll...

[harsh thorn]

well it can be lower too

like if someone is using 268 they are invisible

etc

classes have their own visabilitycontrollers they inherit

[hearty shard]

well i just needed to know if scps speaking in proximity would get denied

[harsh thorn]

i think it works

[hearty shard]

But if it just does a distance check like basegame itd be fine

[harsh thorn]

if it doesnt you can probably ask the labapi team to do something special for it

cuz we had to modify voicechat to make it work well with fakesync and not cause ghost voices

so its possible it might break some things we didnt account for

[hearty shard]

rah

ill have to test everything tmrw ig

[worthy rune]

would be nice to remove client validation all together, although that might require some changes to VC to make it work.

[harsh thorn]

no

we added the client validation on purpose

[stuck peak]

with the new change yeah I see now

[hearty shard]

Wait

Is there client yet

[harsh thorn]

no

[worthy rune]

would fake sync be fixed later, the current method to validate on the client is a bodge way to go about it

[harsh thorn]

if we dont validate on the client then we will cause you to hear ghost voices

[hearty shard]

flip

[harsh thorn]

its not fixable

vc sends before position updates (and therefore fakesync)

its just how unity works

and in cases of mirror being stupid it could be more packets out of sync

[hearty shard]

Guh

[harsh thorn]

so we need to check on the client that it doesnt make you hear everyone

like we had in the first test

[worthy rune]

pretty sure you can make it work

but i understand why it would be finicky to fix

[harsh thorn]

#1399126646413328515 message

[stuck peak]

it's a feature

[harsh thorn]

so instead of lobotomizing the system to be able to remove client validation that exists to prevent bugs

why not just add a specific case for people to use if you're gonna touch it anyway

[hearty shard]

give access

[harsh thorn]

[harsh thorn]

become northwood

[stuck peak]

so true

[hearty shard]

Hire me

Today

[worthy rune]

btw the validation im talking about it for the channels, not the fix you recently added

yeah if the role isnt synced i dont think it should default to global

[harsh thorn]

yeah so thats why i changed how validation works

specifically this in the global handler

if the channel traffic is only used by alive players but the speaker is a spectator we ignore it

and we cant rely on using the servers internal list for what roles it synced
because voice chat should be classified as unreliable network messages

which may arrive before the reliable rolesync message

so if people are having issues due to it, while i dont see how proximity chat wouldnt work as it doesnt restrict that specifically

then we should add a dedicated channel

[worthy rune]

was that a recent change, before i think is was reliable ordered

[harsh thorn]

it might not be changed yet

but it was brought up

technically vc shouldnt be reliable messagetype

[worthy rune]

yeah, thats good

[hearty shard]

yall are evil at nw

[harsh thorn]

cuz this is the best solution to prevent introducing desync bugs
and itl give people a simple way that works without relying on things that are technically not supported

[mild ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[harsh thorn]

although im not sure how scps would behave with Proximity messages even if the validation passes

cuz they dont have a proximity playback

lol

[hearty shard]

Oh yea it shows as global chat for humans

[worthy rune]

yeah thats the changes i was referring too

[harsh thorn]

yeah i see it

[hearty shard]

its not perfect but its how i like it

[harsh thorn]

scp voicemodule inherits global module

[hearty shard]

yeaa ...

[harsh thorn]

which just writes whateverit gets to globalplayback

[hearty shard]

Surely theres a way to change this

[harsh thorn]

you'd need to convince someone to add and get approval for giving scps a proximity playback

[hearty shard]

idek if its smth id want though, i kinda like it differentiating

[harsh thorn]

or attach a speakertoy to the scps gameobject and send their voicechat as speaker message

[hearty shard]

and i dont think ive seen a single person complain

[hearty shard]

speakers dont rly do what i want

Afaik:
Too quiet
You cant mute a player without muting the entire game

[worthy rune]

pretty sure i have seen people have complain about it

[hearty shard]

idk not my server

[harsh thorn]

well we didnt change playback

[hearty shard]

ppl dont care that scps get shown on the side

[worthy rune]

no here

[harsh thorn]

i mean, its not possible to prevent ghost voices when removing the validation

especially if we make vc unreliable

[hearty shard]

yea but a specific validation for plugins

[worthy rune]

im not refering to that

[hearty shard]

Right, riptide

[harsh thorn]

well, the easy way to do that is add specific channels for plugins to use

[hearty shard]

Anyway!!!

[hearty shard]

Yea

and just always validate it

[harsh thorn]

yeah

[worthy rune]

probably the best solution tbh

[hearty shard]

Whens my suggestion for speakers getting approved

[ashen hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947857954655322133/1400984535126118450/Culling2.mp4?ex=688ea006&is=688d4e86&hm=1f46b20cfbf4afafb228d521da9f97ad1ed96da926438a02a85fdbc1e924cf9d&

[limber silo]

Noticeable performance improvement?

[hearty shard]

hi jesus

[ashen hornet]

I would need to spawn more shit

[limber silo]

hey

[limber silo]

These for big maps should be awesome

[hearty shard]

!!!

[celest thorn]

When it comes out i will test it with a big map

[celest thorn]

Do F3

[celest thorn]

I already made a working build for meow i just need to optimize it more

[south socket]

Mr. Hubert give me more RoomNames please

[hearty shard]

make a custom one

[celest thorn]

Ig if you make 104 fps we can probably get 400fps on the server

If rn we get 300

[ashen hornet]

my fps are capped btw

[celest thorn]

Oh

[south socket]

too many freddys

[ashen hornet]

or maybe they aren't? idk

[ashen hornet]

would be cool if you'd share how to do it

[worthy rune]

also there probably a point where culling might be more expensive than just rendering the primitive if theres not many primitives parented. would be cool to find the number where it becomes worth it. it would probably be a different number depending on whether the childern are static or not

[ashen hornet]

although I'm getting 150 FPS with no primitives

[celest thorn]

Rn we have 20k

Primitives and the client goes 300fps

Of me and maro

So its probably going to be better now

[ashen hornet]

how many FPS without primitives?

[celest thorn]

114

Or else 200

[ashen hornet]

how does that make sense

[celest thorn]

It caps

[celest thorn]

Idk

Don’t ask me

[ashen hornet]

you are spawning more stuff and getting more FPS

something ain't right

[celest thorn]

Yea

And it works fine

Its like super counter intuitive but it works

You can see screenshots

[ashen hornet]

is there a server that uses this plugin

publically

[celest thorn]

.

[celest thorn]

I mean tea

But you need whitelist

Because only qa can play it

[hearty shard]

w map removed tho

afaik

so remove the facility and check fps idk

[celest thorn]

Map in that screenshot is not removed

In most of the screenshot we sent the map wasn’t removed

We removed it like 3 days ago

And fps got a little better like 60/70 more

But still too inconsistent

Like it spikes them

[ashen hornet]

it still doesn't make sense that adding stuff makes your game run faster

[celest thorn]

Thats the same thing i still wonder

But it works

And none has an explanation

So

But we do other things in the background to optimize

So thats probably why

[ashen hornet]

such as?

[celest thorn]

Culling

We had a semi good system of culling

But thanks to this that entire system will be scraped for this

[true cedar]

i am so burned out jfc

[severe cave]

is there a way to give a player a bleeding effect that damages 1 hp per second, instead of the default, or do I have to patch some kind of method?

[hearty shard]

just make ur own effect

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1339704289291141130

[plain gazelle]

Would hosting a headless server on a Raspberry Pi 4B work?
Mainly just for testing a server before buying one from a provider
-# Would have like 4 players max

[severe cave]

Wow, that’s a godsend!

[celest thorn]

What i could recommend is search up if you can install pterodactyl and then setup a sever usually sl requires min of 4GB

[stuck peak]

depends on what model but generally yes

[barren portal]

Will the new status effects be available in the RA?

[grand flower]

• Enhanced dummy network connections.
  What does that entail?

[limber silo]

The dummy network connection wasn't properly finished

Missing override of some methods such as UpdatePing

which basically werent important at all but they were properly overriden now

[hearty shard]

hmmm

perhaps

[grave eagle]

Cool

Next please

[severe cave]

is it possible to have the visual part of the effect on a player?

[spare zodiac]

what all can I patch? Can I like patch Linq methods?

[gilded thicket]

why are you trying to do this

[spare zodiac]

events for items being added into list

[gilded thicket]

yes why

[spare zodiac]

to use in my plugin

[gilded thicket]

👍

[severe cave]

How can I make custom death translations?

like when you die and says something that killed you, and when you look at a ragdoll and see what killed it

[tepid sluice]

[unique crane]

CustomReasonDamageHandler

[celest thorn]

rn i would pay gold for the client build

even joining nw

i want to see how much optimized now everything is

[unique crane]

You already reworked it?

[unique crane]

I can join theoretically

[celest thorn]

yea obv

but idk if ANYTHING work

now in theory schematics are doubled

like the problem is that there are commands to do and see if it works

[celest thorn]

Hey david i think you should look into this
https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/puz2p9pa.png

[unique crane]

Wtf I fixed that

Bruh

Eh

[celest thorn]

Skill issue ig

[upper vapor]

OMG

This is absolutely huge

[celest thorn]

fr

and im trying do decrypt why my code stops

[upper vapor]

What collection id

[celest thorn]

and making it work

[celest thorn]

It was for SSSS

[upper vapor]

If it isn't affected by rotation...

[upper vapor]

Is it a toy 🙏

[worthy rune]

i didnt word that very well

the culling thing isnt a toy, but the waypoint one is

[celest thorn]

no

[restive turret]

Culling is a network behavior object

[celest thorn]

yes

[restive turret]

Ye ik

I didn't put ? in the end

[upper vapor]

Skull issue

[random scaffold]

if it was fixed by david, then it didnt was fixed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068876470799319100/1356317737978298449/togif.gif

[celest thorn]

i need to calculate the bounds

im going to cry

[unique crane]

Just put in cube and use that as reference

It behaves the same

[celest thorn]

        public static Bounds GetBoundingBox(this MeowEditorPrimitive primitive)
        {
            if (primitive == null)
                return default;

            if (primitive.ObjectCollider != null)
                return primitive.ObjectCollider.bounds;

            if (primitive.ObjectRenderer != null)
                return primitive.ObjectRenderer.bounds;

            if (primitive.ObjectFilter != null && primitive.ObjectFilter.sharedMesh != null)
            {
                Bounds meshBounds = primitive.ObjectFilter.sharedMesh.bounds;
                Vector3 center = primitive.transform.TransformPoint(meshBounds.center);
                Vector3 size = Vector3.Scale(meshBounds.size, primitive.transform.lossyScale);
                return new Bounds(center, size);
            }

            return new Bounds(primitive.transform.position, primitive.transform.lossyScale);
        }

Like this is my solution

[upper vapor]

Do not patch linq
Find the delegate passed to the LINQ method
It's a compiler-generated class

[upper vapor]

Sobbing

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

Do NOT make it per primitive holy fuck

That's gonna freeze the game more

[celest thorn]

i was trying that

[unique crane]

Since your enabling/disabling gameobject

[celest thorn]

Yea i was thinking that

but then i said lets try it

lol

else its like useless asf

for me

[unique crane]

Anyways gonna go make breakfast

[celest thorn]

Nice

[unique crane]

Then I can try your server if you want

[celest thorn]

I mean

you already said it will freeze

so most likely it will

[unique crane]

Maybe

Batch them together

I would do it like per floor

And see what happens

[celest thorn]

Meow doesn't know anything

other than spawning

so i was planning to make it work with just like wall everything next to it

[upper vapor]

you'll have to do the grouping in the editor

[celest thorn]

I could do that

but at the same time i need to do an automatic system

you now how hard it is to make all of that

[upper vapor]

don't

[celest thorn]

I mean even if i don't

that works fine

like rn im going crazy

because it say there aren't any Culling

but i see them spawn

amazing

ig everything is fine

Nope it works

I see it because hub is 20k prim and now its 40k

now its time to wait

[upper vapor]

💞

[celest thorn]

Wanna know something super funny

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/wshfs9jq.png

i did the same math even before anything was said

[upper vapor]

lmao

[restive turret]

I will sleep 2 more hours and join to you to tell or ask stupid questions @celest thorn

[celest thorn]

i mean as of rn im waiting for mr david

[restive turret]

I ate him

[true cedar]

chat

[true cedar]

im so exhausted!!!!

[restive turret]

Same

[true cedar]

i don't wanna do c#

but i wanna get ruei v3 out

[restive turret]

F

[true cedar]

rahhhhh

[unique crane]

Me resisting the urge the name the property "Markiplier"

[upper vapor]

multiplier

reference

[celest thorn]

april fools

[upper vapor]

market flier

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-confetti-yipee-gif-26461456

[celest thorn]

Everyone plugin broken for Markplier

[upper vapor]

let's break every plugin :3

[restive turret]

Shuffle the name of everything

[south socket]

guys help me markiplier touched me

[true cedar]

ax

finish my shit for me

thanks

[upper vapor]

randomizer

[upper vapor]

no

[true cedar]

:((((

[unique crane]

#define true (rand() % 2)

[unique crane]

[restive turret]

217TierManager.SyncCandy(RoomType.Coal);

[celest thorn]

Who did this event PlayerRequestedRaPlayerListEventArgs

PLEASE

I WANNA GIVE A MASSIVE KISS

[restive turret]

I'm here

[celest thorn]

idk this update becomes better and better

lets see the client vs 40k objects

who wins

[true cedar]

but they haven't added me in yet

[south socket]

i think the objects

[true cedar]

so is it really that good

[south socket]

wild guess

[unique crane]

riptide

[celest thorn]

or better david's computer vs 20k Primitive and 20k Culling Toys

[celest thorn]

This guy cooked

let him cook more

[unique crane]

wrong gif

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHAHA

[south socket]

now more roomnames and im giving my house to hubert

[restive turret]

Lool

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/good-bad-ugly-ennio-moricone-cigar-cow-boy-gif-17722079

this one is better

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-revolver-gif-19290150

[celest thorn]

i will wait for you

and your pc

[upper vapor]

what is this

[upper vapor]

(Inverse)TransformPoint is affected by scale

you could simplify the whole method to the static branch

nvm

[south socket]

we need snake events need to make a top10

[celest thorn]

are you serious

just patch

lol

[south socket]

i dont want to patch every single thing to make funny time.

but actually... yeah i will

[celest thorn]

so sad im waiting her e

and the guy im waiting doesn't show up

[south socket]

just summon him

[upper vapor]

i copied the code from it and it doesn't make sense
the green line is the returned distance
the target is the red capsule
with static it's correct
without, no

[unique crane]

@worthy rune

[upper vapor]

right

it's riptide's fault

[unique crane]

I think you just dont understand how it works

XD

Cause the without is the bounds

[upper vapor]

non-static breaks it

[celest thorn]

if you join we can happily everyone test it

[unique crane]

which is the moving video

that I sent

Which clearly works

[upper vapor]

for scale 1 yeah it works

for other scale, no

[unique crane]

I would wait for him then

[unique crane]

Im in vc someone

after they finish

[celest thorn]

so crazy sad

[unique crane]

or like in afternoon maybe

I want to do something after

[celest thorn]

ok

only thing i could complain is the client not releasing its so stupid

[unique crane]

Yeah well no beta

Its not major update

[celest thorn]

So then why tf giving out the server

if at the end of the day

everything could be broken

but we don't know

[unique crane]

#serverhost-suggestions

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest thorn]

i know for sure that would never happen

this has been the same for like years

i remember megapatch 1 and from now always the same

[worthy rune]

scale is taken into account when non-static

also rotation

[sinful bronze]

Balls

[upper vapor]

but why isn't it accounted for when it is static

[worthy rune]

one min

[muted heath]

hi

[south socket]

static balls?

[hard flume]

does LabAPI support Target in PlayerShotWeaponEventArgs?

[south socket]

no

[hard flume]

eh

bad

so i cant rewrite my damage system to labapi

[icy knoll]

just use the hurt event

and see if it's from a firearm

[hard flume]

does playerhurtingeventargs support Hitbox?

[upper vapor]

it's in AttackerDamageHandler

[unique crane]

^

[hard flume]

uhhh

im stupid for it

[grave eagle]

What is waypoint

[icy knoll]

PlayerHurtingEventArgs::DamageHandler

if(DamageHandler is AttackerDamageHandler handler)

then get it from handler

[hard flume]

uh

there is also hit position?

[hearty shard]

ev.Player.Position ?

[hard flume]

i mean hit position from shot

on local player model

[untold raft]

get player pos + Vector up

[hearty shard]

thats not the specific spot that was shot

but yeah maybe Shot event has it

[untold raft]

RaycastHit maybe has it

[frail zinc]

hello, anyone had an issue with the new labapi version ?

[hearty shard]

like what issue

[frail zinc]

[2025-08-02 15:30:51.281 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at LabApi.Loader.PluginLoader.Initialize () [0x00013] in <bd83d6009c394d05b0e4e2080b3f314d>:0
[2025-08-02 15:30:51.281 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at ServerStatic.Awake () [0x00085] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0```
I've got this with the new version, idk why

[hearty shard]

you downloaded the newest labapi but didnt update your server to newest sl

[frail zinc]

yeah

thanks x)

I didn't know that I had to update the server

[hearty shard]

dont update labapi version manually
just update server which comes with the labapi

[frail zinc]

I didn't think it was updated with each labapi update, I thought it had to be done manually ><

[hearty shard]

labapi updates with sl

not the other way around

[frail zinc]

yep thanks

[frail zinc]

but now my game seems to be outdated

very weird thing

[hearty shard]

yeah the latest server build is a pre release

no client is released for it

you cannot join a server with it

[frail zinc]

oh yeah fuck nvm, i can't read 💀

so tomorrow, it will be released to client ?

[icy knoll]

ye

[frail zinc]

thanks

[celest thorn]

tomorrow

best day ever

[unique crane]

Payday 4 release

[still thistle]

n

[heady turret]

Guys, where is method that don't allow player to join server if he is banned?
I want change kick reason text

[upper vapor]

you have to disconnect them with a custom rejection reason in the Preauth event

oh wait

you can also change the ban/kick text while keeping the translation

[turbid socket]

how can i prevent collider from eating bullets?

[celest thorn]

make their layermask glass

[turbid socket]

private void Awake()
    {
        var col = GetComponent<Collider>();
        col.isTrigger = true;

        gameObject.layer = 14;
    }

still eats bullets 😭

[celest thorn]

because thats not how you do it

private void Awake()
    {
        var col = GetComponent<Collider>();
        col.isTrigger = true;

        gameObject.layer = LayerMask.NameToLayer("Glass");
    }

[turbid socket]

still eats them

[celest thorn]

try Fence

    public static readonly CachedLayerMask HitregMask = new CachedLayerMask("Default", "Hitbox", "Glass", "CCTV", "Door");

this are the cached one

Yea use Fence

[turbid socket]

finally it works, thank you

[celest thorn]

no problem

[hearty shard]

@unique crane whats the default grenade _playerDamageOverDistance for ExplosionGrenade ?

and the scp multiplier

[barren pasture]

What does SL use to encoding/decoding voice messages?

[unique crane]

Opus

[unique crane]

3

[unique crane]

Idk

Some curve

[hearty shard]

can i see itt...

[hearty shard]

mmmm

ok!

😭

whys there a bool variable if its never used except for a single method

[plain gazelle]

aw, seems like its a real pain to try and get an SL server running on arm64, bummer

[slate flume]

What is this?

[upper vapor]

Is there no priority queue in .net framework...

Omg it's only from .NET 6

Smh

[slate flume]

Also quick question

Can I add my own attachment to a firearm

So I can change different attributes

[unique crane]

Except for like max ammo... none of it syncs to the client

[slate flume]

Shit

So @unique crane is there any way to change a gun's bullet inaccuracy?
Also, what is the best way to do max ammo?

[unique crane]

Inaccuracy can be changed too

on the server

[slate flume]

Okay

So would the best way to do it be to add my own attachment to a firearm or like what should I do

I want to avoid editing existing attachments because players might change attachments and I don't wanna have to handle that

[hearty shard]

huh

😭

[slate flume]

Player can't be null

[hearty shard]

however

thats labapi event

player isnt nullable

[slate flume]

Yeah

[hearty shard]

so if i give a method the NON NULLABLE player

whys it complaining it can be null

[slate flume]

Is it possible that in the event it's assigning null?

[hearty shard]

technically

if referencehub is null

[hearty shard]

however

[upper vapor]

gotta love devs ignoring nullable warnings

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[slate flume]

It's Player.Get

[upper vapor]

yea

[slate flume]

Player.Get can sometimes return null

[hearty shard]

if ref hub is null

[slate flume]

Doesn't matter why

[hearty shard]

it shoulnt show me a user a warning though

[slate flume]

Just matters that Player.Get() can return null

[slate flume]

It's showing you a warning because it's a point of failure

[upper vapor]

but the property isn't nullable

[slate flume]

Correct

[hearty shard]

yes

and it shouldnt show me it then

[upper vapor]

just

!

[hearty shard]

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

and other places work fine

its this one spot

[slate flume]

Because Player.Get() returns Player?

And you're putting Player? into Player

[upper vapor]

doesn't matter, the property on the class isn't nullable

[hearty shard]

yep

[upper vapor]

it is in the interface

but not the class

[slate flume]

What are we talking about

[hearty shard]

eg

no warning here

because it shouldnt show a warning

[upper vapor]

why does IPlayerEvent have it as nullable nayway lol