plugins-dev-chat

[teal junco]

crazy thing is, a basic blacklist would probably actually work on 99% of server owners

[upper vapor]

[teal junco]

someone asked me to implement a blacklist on a plugin i was making so an rp server they didnt like couldnt use it

only, i eventually realized, with a few exceptions, all rp servers are exactly the same in terms of morality.

[spring swan]

Blacklist? Isn’t it easier to just get a dev to make something similar or better? Unless it’s like some super complicated stuff

[teal junco]

i was making a basic custom item mod

he wanted me to make it so a server he didnt like was not allowed to use it

[upper vapor]

adding a blacklist to an open-source plugin?

[teal junco]

tbh both servers in this case were in a deficit of plugin devs lol

i held all the cards

also the second server likely wouldnt want my plugin anyway

[teal junco]

yep

i never got around to open sourcing it tho

[upper vapor]

sobbing

[teal junco]

making BlacklistLibrary.dll dependency that enables blacklist functionality for my plugins

[royal mica]

That is diabolical

Imagine if you could pay for more 173 range

[grand flower]

If it wasn't C#

it'd actually be worth it

but since it's C# and it takes 5 seconds to decompile your plugin

[royal mica]

That requires you to know how to do it,and if you can, you develop your own plugin instead

[upper vapor]

then write it in assembly and execute the assembly in C#
-# then they can just remove the executor

[grand flower]

Still kinda dumb, if you make your plugin open source or public, don't try to add blacklists lol

[royal mica]

Just use permissions and implement nrgating permissions.yml

[restive turret]

Lmao

Make a C# plugin call a Native dll

You can obfuscate the C# dll and the native with upx and VMP / Denuvo

[royal mica]

SCPSL LabApi Denuvo 💀

[restive turret]

Termida

*th

[teal junco]

exactly why i found it dumb

but honestly like i said earlier, it would probably work enough to stop 99% of people from using your plugin

theyre not gonna know wtf happened and their dev either doesnt exist, doesnt care enough about the provided functionality, or will just make their own inhouse version

[slate flume]

What happens with custom keycards in 914?

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/door-toucan-hello-chat-bird-stare-gif-27159024

[unique crane]

Nothing I believe

they dont change on processing

I believe

[slate flume]

Baller

I trust

[worn gull]

Hi! How can I get from FirearmItem which ammo I need to load that gun?

[upper vapor]

get the iprimaryammocontainer module

[worn gull]

Thanks

[upper vapor]

np

[royal mica]

Custom keycards are not registered in 914, you would need your custom impl for that

[tepid sluice]

How do i get the players who are affeted by flash bang

[slate flume]

🔥

[slate flume]

FlashbangGrenade uses

Which calls

[tepid sluice]

patch time

[slate flume]

Patch onto ProcessPlayer right here ->

[tepid sluice]

anyway thx

[slate flume]

Or just latch onto UpdatedEffect and do Flashed

Depending on what you need it for

Would be pretty painless to check if a player becomes flashed

Wouldn't need a patch

[tepid sluice]

i need to check if they are flashed by tm

friendlyfire things

[unique crane]

if(player.GetEffect<Flashed>().Intensity > 0)

is flashed check

[tepid sluice]

@slate flumehere is a base hmmmmmmm,should i use Reflection?

[slate flume]

Oh

Yeah

[tepid sluice]

i havent used this before

is this ok

[slate flume]

Wait

So do you have FF on?

[tepid sluice]

yep

[slate flume]

And you want to prevent flashbangs when they come from a teammate?

What's the ultimate goal

[tepid sluice]

yea this is the last one i need to do

[slate flume]

So don't patch ServerFuseEnd

Patch ProcessPlayer

Do a harmony prefix

[tepid sluice]

ok

[slate flume]

And prevent the code from running

Something like

public static bool ProcessPlayerPrefix(ReferenceHub hub, FlashbangGrenade __instance)
    {
        if (__instance.PreviousOwner.Role.GetFaction() == hub.GetFaction()) return false;
        return true;
    }

Or actually

[HarmonyPrefix]
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FlashbangGrenade), nameof(FlashbangGrenade.ProcessPlayer))]
public static bool ProcessPlayerPrefix(ReferenceHub hub, FlashbangGrenade __instance)
{
    if (__instance.PreviousOwner.Role.GetFaction() == hub.GetFaction()) return false;
    return true;
}```
Should work

@tepid sluice

[tepid sluice]

oh thx

[slate flume]

Of course!

[tepid sluice]

i think this work perfectly

[slate flume]

That's the hope

[hearty shard]

assassination

[royal mica]

If you do not take the publicize route and want to be on the Reflection side:
Cache the GetMethod in a variable that is only reassign on constructing the class. Methods rarely change, so caching them instead of fetching is performance gain. Also make sure you have the correct flags for GetMethod, as it matters

(This is generally for reflection, not for this exact case)

[tepid sluice]

okay,thx for remind

[restive turret]

Publicize, makes your job easier

[hearty shard]

my favorite commit

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

Have you tried writing meaningful commit messages that reflect the change

[hearty shard]

i think i just forgot to name the pr

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

no

i named it

blame jesus for that one

[unique crane]

Can you ban people from github repos?

I think we have a candidate

[hearty shard]

GUH

i did your job

[royal mica]

Relfect on your actions, dont touch dependencies

[restive turret]

Yes you can

[unique crane]

Lets ban eve

whos against?

[restive turret]

None

[hearty shard]

david isnt that more work for you

i bet u didnt make a pr with what i added

[worn gull]

How can I create a grenade and set the fuse time for it and spawn it to a pos?

[hearty shard]

TimedGrenadeProjectile.SpawnActive(player.Position, ItemType.GrenadeHE, player, 0.1f);

[restive turret]

ExplosiveGrenade.SpawnActive

0.1 being fuse time

Use your ide to search

[royal mica]

Poor guy releases the grenade and instantly blows in their face

[hearty shard]

if only

[worn gull]

thanks

[celest thorn]

Hiii chat :3

[restive turret]

Hi

[restive turret]

Use alias

[hearty shard]

no!

[unique crane]

Haiiii

[celest thorn]

How are you doing!

[celest thorn]

hiii

[unique crane]

We are cooking

both literally

[restive turret]

Can you review axo change

[unique crane]

and coding

[celest thorn]

what are you cooking up?

some pasta?

[unique crane]

nah

chicken with paprika

and dumplings

[restive turret]

Nice

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/arbys-all-our-food-keeps-blowing-up-explode-food-food-explode-gif-9117270815838483671

[hearty shard]

yum

[celest thorn]

nah

bro a good plate of pasta

[unique crane]

That was a backup plan

if my sister ate all the dumplings

[celest thorn]

today i will eat a potato gateau

[unique crane]

nice

[celest thorn]

sister was hungry

i love potatos

potatos are amazing

if you want to burry me and make me happy in the middle of a potato farm

[unique crane]

xd

[celest thorn]

potatos are the best food ever

you can just even eat them raw

and they taste good

[unique crane]

EW

raw potatoes

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-walk-away-weirdo-touch-gif-26494423

[unique crane]

wtf

[celest thorn]

Nah

I DIDN'T MEAN I EAT THEM RAW

[upper vapor]

have you tried not getting food poisoning

[unique crane]

You wont get poisoned from that probably

but like

[celest thorn]

I DON'T EAT THEM RAW

[unique crane]

they are gonna taste

[upper vapor]

probably

[unique crane]

e w

[celest thorn]

;(

i don't eat raw potatos

honestly if you give me just a plate of boiled potatos

you make me happy

just anything + potato and you make me happy

[unique crane]

Okay

at least we know what to feed you when your gonna end up in the basement

[upper vapor]

i love air + potato

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

NAH im not joining nw's cult

i get paid more by the gov than working for nw

just staying home

[upper vapor]

you could get paid extra

[celest thorn]

No

[hearty shard]

"i get paid to be lazy"

[celest thorn]

because who else gets 3.3k for just going to uni

[celest thorn]

I mean no?

most likely what i will get paid are meds and 3.3k a year

[hearty shard]

then ur not getting paid just to be home 😭

[celest thorn]

Yes pratically yes

[upper vapor]

summer break

[celest thorn]

I don't need to work

or else lower money

the scholarship pays me more a month than a job

if i now go to work i would get paid 500 euros a month

so do your math is it worth it?

[unique crane]

Then just get the fuck out of your country and all of their investments gone

[celest thorn]

7 days from 7 am to 9 pm

[unique crane]

[celest thorn]

obv i will go away from this dog shit of a country

like everyone

i plan to do classes with italian & english

[unique crane]

Move to Tahiti

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-rdr2-gif-15590042829300150688

[slate flume]

If I wanted to get a random item from an IEnumerator should I just .ToArray().RandomItem()
Or should I .OrderBy(_ => rnd.Next()).First()
Or something else?

[upper vapor]

do you mean an IEnumerable

[hearty shard]

public static T GetRandomValue<T>(this IEnumerable<T> collection)
        {
            IList<T> list = collection as IList<T> ?? collection.ToList();
            return list.Count == 0 ? default! : list[Random.Range(0, list.Count)];
        }

[upper vapor]

benchmark it

[hearty shard]

i dont remember why i used list

[unique crane]

There is random value in IEnumerable in Northwoodlib too?

I believe

[hearty shard]

is there?

isnt that for lists

[slate flume]

So .ToArray().RandomItem() lol

Gotcha

[hearty shard]

where

[upper vapor]

uh

[slate flume]

Cause that's built into some C# library

[slate flume]

^

[unique crane]

welp

I guess it isnt then

[restive turret]

Skill issue

[slate flume]

Just

.ToArray().RandomItem() :)

[hearty shard]

and yea it is array / list

[upper vapor]

guess what

[restive turret]

Chicken butt

[upper vapor]

you're probably better off with ToArray, but benchmark if you really need performance

[slate flume]

Fuck

[hearty shard]

huh

[upper vapor]

extension methods

[slate flume]

I wanted to create an overload for .RandomItem()

[hearty shard]

extension method

[slate flume]

Won't work

[upper vapor]

why

[slate flume]

It'll be recursive

[hearty shard]

what

[upper vapor]

?????

[slate flume]

Let me

Write it out

[upper vapor]

name it different

[hearty shard]

then dont make it recursive 😭

or yeah name it different

[upper vapor]

also if you call toarray

[slate flume]

Hence why I'm upset

[upper vapor]

it'll call the array overload

[slate flume]

^

You missed the point

I wanted to create an overload for it but I can't

[hearty shard]

yea ur pointing it to your own method

[slate flume]

Yeah

[hearty shard]

public static T GetRandomValue<T>(this IEnumerable<T> collection) => collection.ToArray().RandomItem();

[slate flume]

Exactly my original POINT

I KNOW THIS

[hearty shard]

yes but

[slate flume]

You're acting like I don't get it

I do

[slate flume]

Which is why I said this

[hearty shard]

or this

[upper vapor]

you don't need to use the extension syntax

[slate flume]

:O

No shot

[upper vapor]

they're static methods after all

[unique crane]

Yall small brains

public static T RandomItem<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable)
{
    return enumerable.ElementAt(Random.Range(0, enumerable.Count()));
}

[slate flume]

HUGE

[hearty shard]

then you make nw use this

[slate flume]

Is this more performative?

[unique crane]

You dont create a new array

[hearty shard]

removes .ToArray() so probably

yeah

[unique crane]

so I guess?

[slate flume]

Bet

[unique crane]

You just iterate it

not a big deal

[restive turret]

Add into nwlib

NOW

[unique crane]

unless its two billion one hundred forty-seven million four hundred eighty-three thousand six hundred forty-seven long

[slate flume]

Is this a problem?

[unique crane]

You can theoretically select a random value in a single iteration

[restive turret]

Nope

[unique crane]

but this is not an issue

[slate flume]

When should I worry about multiple enumeration

What does it even mean

[hearty shard]

it means ur looping multiple times

[restive turret]

2 times

Or more since you get the elementar

Nvm its exactly 2 time

[hearty shard]

.Count() enumerates

[upper vapor]

yes

[slate flume]

So like if I did Log(enumerable.Count()) and Log(enumerable.Sum()) that would be a multiple enumeration

[upper vapor]

are you buta

[restive turret]

First because count.
Second because ElementAr

[slate flume]

So

I should just use array?

[restive turret]

Replying to ThatGuy not david

[upper vapor]

mb

[restive turret]

Ye it iterate 2 times, one for the length/count other because of elementAt

[upper vapor]

that's not in .net framework

[slate flume]

Would boxing to an array and running that code take longer than two enumerations?

[upper vapor]

whar

[hearty shard]

thats

[upper vapor]

an array is a reference type

[hearty shard]

what i get from the game

well

using game references and framework 4.8

// Type: System.Linq.Enumerable
// Assembly: System.Core, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089
// Assembly location: E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\SCP Secret Laboratory Dedicated Server\SCPSL_Data\Managed\System.Core.dll
// XML documentation location: C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\.NETFramework\v4.8.1\System.Core.xml

[slate flume]

Just which is faster is the question

[upper vapor]

huh

[hearty shard]

benchmark it

[hearty shard]

wdym huh

[slate flume]

I'll be honest

I've literally never benchmarked anything in C# a day in my life

[hearty shard]

do you need maximum performance

[slate flume]

No but I'm curious

[upper vapor]

i forgor

[hearty shard]

casting my beloved

[upper vapor]

i opened secretapi for testing but references weren't the same

[upper vapor]

BenchmarkDotNet

very easy to use

you just gotta know what you're doing

[slate flume]

Interesting
How does this work?

[upper vapor]

i've seen stupid benchmarks

[slate flume]

I'm just eager to learn is all

[upper vapor]

switch expression

[slate flume]

I wanna have good practices

[slate flume]

Yeah but like

[upper vapor]

just like a switch statement but easier

checks for the first type

if not that type go to the next one

_ is the fallback

[slate flume]

Interesting so it checks IEnumerable casting to 2 different types and runs different code depending on what cast is valid?

[upper vapor]

kinda

if (a is B b)
    return b.shit;
if (a is C c)
    return c.shit;
return a.evenMoreShit;

basically

[slate flume]

Oh cool

So checking if IEnumerable is something would allow you to use that something to do stuff more performative than if you used the IEnumerable?

[celest thorn]

if(rat is Rat)
   return rat.fat;

[upper vapor]

yes

[slate flume]

That's so cool!

[upper vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8X9_MgEdCg

how is this not Unity's theme song

or like

intro

[celest thorn]

Roblox tycoon

Roblox tycoon

😭

how we ended up from roblox tycoon to roblox being for dating

btw i wanna try getting 2k hours

im rn 1.7k

[upper vapor]

you don't even play the game

you just afk

while you write code

[celest thorn]

I was testing the language system

translation is so easy for both me and the translators

translators have a website

i just download and drop it

it works

[upper vapor]

live translation editing in SL

SSSS can do that

[celest thorn]

I mean i could do it but i don't want to expose some stuff

and honestly i want alot of logs

for now we just have
Italian, French, Polish and Finnish

(french is done by me)

I mean if someone wants to translate hit me up in dms

lol

[hearty shard]

i can english translate

english to english

for only $50

[upper vapor]

can you translate to british

[restive turret]

I translate English to blublub

80€

[hearty shard]

lucid is typing...

[restive turret]

Now not

[celest thorn]

ig

you can

but how would you translate "Loading..."?

[restive turret]

Init'in

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

let me find some loading messages

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/hom2vqjo.png

how would you translate this?

[restive turret]

I'm not British idks

[celest thorn]

let me ask chatgpt

"Desynchronisation is deliberate."

[upper vapor]

After careful consideration, we ought to include lack of synchronisation at certain points in time...

[celest thorn]

Honestly

i might add it as a joke

many jokes languages

just for the fun

[upper vapor]

cat language (mc ref)

pirate language

[celest thorn]

uwu

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

uwuify

[celest thorn]

"Wewease Mwe!"

AHHAHAHAHHAHA

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

it should be Release Me!

[upper vapor]

unfortunately i can read

and understand

[celest thorn]

AHAHHA

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/zan9bxkq.png

i love ai

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/z9yqewzi.png

take your pirate

[upper vapor]

should be

physics arr held...

[celest thorn]

im having so much fun

[upper vapor]

it didn't replace Ls

you can just string::Replace for UwUlang

[slate flume]

This is so cool

I stole it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1051988905320255509/1146537451750432778/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif

What's funny is

Iirc I also stole that gif from you lmao

I've gone full degenerate

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/egt62nio.png
in fortnite terms

[celest thorn]

this is on exiled

[hearty shard]

since when

[slate flume]

0_0

[hearty shard]

they do .ToArray() always no ?

[upper vapor]

i stole it too

[celest thorn]

They removed it

[upper vapor]

fart night

[celest thorn]

i remember it was there

imagine maro waking up

[hearty shard]

 public static T GetRandomValue<T>(this IEnumerable<T> enumerable)
        {
            if (enumerable is null)
                return default;

            T[] array = enumerable.ToArray();
            return array.Length == 0 ? default : array[Random.Range(0, array.Length)];
        }

[celest thorn]

and the first thing she sees is me

[hearty shard]

you mean this?

yeah thats exiled

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hnnng-heart-attack-heart-attack-meme-oof-ow-gif-24467984

[hearty shard]

but thats still .ToArray()

and isnt the code ax shown

[upper vapor]

can i just

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/digundlh.png

roblox terms

[upper vapor]

zero...

[celest thorn]

what?

[upper vapor]

you can just copy the text

[celest thorn]

Ok

[upper vapor]

instead of making a 10000 line long embed

[celest thorn]

[hearty shard]

i dont think theyre capable

[upper vapor]

my bad

[celest thorn]

Im capable

[hearty shard]

like how poly

[upper vapor]

cap able

are you able to cap

[celest thorn]

"Mamma mia, almost ready!"
in pasta terms

im dying

[upper vapor]

sob

[celest thorn]

loading got translated in
"Boiling… Loading…"

yo axwabo

wanna try something

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/3uz1ckoe.png

how accurate it is?

[upper vapor]

ellenőrzőpont 😭😭

szob emoji

[celest thorn]

????

i wonder how accurate chatgpt is at translating

[upper vapor]

decent

[celest thorn]

if you join a server would you understand?

[upper vapor]

yes

[celest thorn]

this are much more complicated so

[celest thorn]

Hmmm i have an idea

[upper vapor]

replace hub with elosztó

[celest thorn]

I mean i wasn't planning to put hungarian

[upper vapor]

and there's no plural

[celest thorn]

crazy

i've just put plural for languages like Italian, French and english that have Seconds and Second

[upper vapor]

then delete it

[celest thorn]

nah wondering how accurate it is

because with italian it was 100%

[upper vapor]

chatgpt is a lot better than google translate

[celest thorn]

i might outsource some translation for some harder languages to find

[upper vapor]

95% maybe
there are some weird feels in places

[celest thorn]

with internal people

[unique crane]

Everything is better than google translate xd

[celest thorn]

I mean as of rn having some more languages wouldn't suck

[upper vapor]

except my classmate

[celest thorn]

We have femboy language, baugette language, pasta language and Alcholics language (Finnish)

[upper vapor]

"femboy language"

WAIT

[celest thorn]

i mean polish is the best way to describe it

[upper vapor]

WAIT WAIT

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

hungarian is the alcoholic(s)(') language

[celest thorn]

Honestly

Nah

like bars where full asf

every night

Someone knows how the region sent by central server

[upper vapor]

can't you just

add a setting for that

and add a hint to show how to change the language

or text objects

[slate flume]

Filthy Europeans

[upper vapor]

woahwoah

banned

terminated

[slate flume]

I speak American, thank you very much

[upper vapor]

freedom

🦅🦅🦅🦅

[slate flume]

I bleed red, white, and blue 🫡 🛻 🍻 🦅 🇺🇸

[upper vapor]

french?

[slate flume]

[restive turret]

Lmao

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bleu-blanc-rouge-france-drapeau-français-french-flag-france-flag-gif-12160429

[restive turret]

Me when i visit a Hungarian government website

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

no permission

[restive turret]

No shit

[slate flume]

pszaf.hu feels like someone smashed their keyboard

[restive turret]

I trying to be against this group that controls what games is available on platforms

[hearty shard]

isnt that all languages

[restive turret]

And this would be the official way

[celest thorn]

No i want to make when you join it sends you a broadcast in your language if supported saying yo do .language and you will change into that language

[slate flume]

Imagine catering to non-English speakers

I hate inclusivity

[celest thorn]

I mean im the first one

But i know how to speak

[upper vapor]

it would be interesting to see a non-english speaker see join an english server (not impossible)

at this point you can just send a broadcast in all languages

[celest thorn]

Yea but it would be amazing

[upper vapor]

i'm not sure if you can use aut data/IP for that
northwood answer

[celest thorn]

I mean i will not save it

And nw provides me with it

I just don’t save it so everytime you join you need to apply it

[upper vapor]

you can just use geolocation

🤯

[celest thorn]

Ig but idk if thats allowed for dnt

[upper vapor]

yeah

[celest thorn]

Ig i could do

DNT manual

[upper vapor]

why would region be allowed then

[celest thorn]

Non dnt automatic

[celest thorn]

Thats sent by nw

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Im just saying its used for geoblock so ig it makes sense i cannot use it for that

[upper vapor]

8.2. IP addresses of players, the secret part of the authentication token, and the preauthentication
token, must be treated as confidential data and never be disclosed publicly.

[celest thorn]

Ok then yea

[upper vapor]

i guess you can geolocate with that

[celest thorn]

Its such a unique problem

[upper vapor]

better ask security to make sure

[celest thorn]

Yea most likely i will

Or else far easier

A message just sent the first time you join “you can change your language if you want”

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Or everytime you join

Idk

Its such a unique concept on sl

That i’ve never seen it

[upper vapor]

walk into the room when you first join with the flag of your language

like 106 PD

[celest thorn]

That would be a nightmare

To update

[upper vapor]

i wonder if texttoy can render flags properly

[restive turret]

Ofc

Set the size of the pixels like big

100

[celest thorn]

They can

But the problem are alot

I just prefer having a command

Or straight up something in SSSS

[spare zodiac]

why when I try ReferenceHub.aspectRatioSync._savedHeight I get an error that I cannot accsess this value?

[hearty shard]

show error

[upper vapor]

unsafe code

[hearty shard]

oh yeah

unsafe code

[upper vapor]

why are you using _savedHeight though

does the client send its actual resolution?

[spare zodiac]

calculations

[spare zodiac]

no clue

why the fuck is YScreenEdge static?

[restive turret]

Ask nw

[spare zodiac]

@NW help :(

[hearty shard]

prob a client thing

[spare zodiac]

omfg

[celest thorn]

Nw please give us hl3

[celest thorn]

Where do you even take this code from

[upper vapor]

aspectratiosync

[spare zodiac]

[2025-07-24 15:43:02.968 +02:00] [ERROR] [Exiled.Events] Method "OnVerified" of the class "FunctionalServerSystem.Modules.PointsShow.EventHandler" caused an exception when handling the event "Exiled.Events.Features.Event`1[[Exiled.Events.EventArgs.Player.VerifiedEventArgs, Exiled.Events, Version=9.6.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null]]"
                                 System.FieldAccessException: Field `AspectRatioSync:_savedHeight' is inaccessible from method `FunctionalServerSystem.Modules.PointsShow.EventHandler:OnVerified (Exiled.Events.EventArgs.Player.VerifiedEventArgs)'

                                   at Exiled.Events.Features.Event`1[T].InvokeNormal (T arg) [0x00028] in <0bb51ea693474e0b9e0e3cc40480a7c1>:0

[hearty shard]

u didnt enable unsafe code

[upper vapor]

exiled

[spare zodiac]

time to do this shit then

[hearty shard]

"this shit" 😭

literally 1 project setting

[upper vapor]

did you know

[restive turret]

Uninstall exiled

[upper vapor]

that _savedWidth and _savedHeight aren't know by the server

[restive turret]

🤯🤯

[hearty shard]

oh yeah that too

[upper vapor]

"aspect ratio sync"

i wonder what that does

sends the exact width & height

nuh uh

[hearty shard]

its for Network\u003CXScreenEdge\u003Ek__BackingField

[spare zodiac]

100% understand this

[spare zodiac]

guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2025-07-24 15:46:25.507 +02:00] [INFO] [FunctionalServerSystem] _savedHeight 0

you wouldn't believe it

[hearty shard]

yeah

now what will you do with 0

[spare zodiac]

nothing it's useless

[upper vapor]

the more you know

[hearty shard]

idk why Y isnt synced like X is

but ig it works

[spare zodiac]

the aspect ratio gives you float like 1.777777778 meaning 16:9, but how the fuck do I get that

[unique crane]

AspectRatio property is synced to the server

[spare zodiac]

but it's useless

[unique crane]

and these 2 other

[upper vapor]

y can't be larger than x

y don't you support shoutube shorts resolution

yes i spelled it shoutube

[unique crane]

N o

Short videos sucks

All you get from them is goldfish attention span

[upper vapor]

you multiply the aspect ratio by the width to get the height

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

1KB ram

[celest thorn]

So no mobile sl????

So sad

[unique crane]

YOu want SL to run on phone?

[spare zodiac]

that's interesting game theory lemme try it

[spare zodiac]

yes

[unique crane]

crazy

[celest thorn]

Sl cannot run even on my pc

Imagine on a fucking phone

I still laugh

My pc can run cyberpunk, doom dark ages at 180 fps 1080 raytracing but not sl

[unique crane]

Maybe if we had budget in millions

[spare zodiac]

SL is heavy on CPU

[upper vapor]

maybe if it wasn't unity

[spare zodiac]

tell hubert to sell SL to microsoft trust

[celest thorn]

Maybe if someone knew how to code vulkan on how to not crash your game

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159010897629548644/1181180083050917910/attachment.gif

[hearty shard]

doesnt genshin run on mobile

or am i crazy

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Please explode

[celest thorn]

Yes

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397327667195547742/1397328953546506392/attachment.gif

[celest thorn]

But genshin is optimized

[unique crane]

That game still exists?

[celest thorn]

Sadly yes

[unique crane]

crazy

[celest thorn]

Honestly sell sl to some chinese company

[unique crane]

💀

[celest thorn]

Wait sl is in china

[spare zodiac]

yea

[celest thorn]

Does sl send data to the chinese government

[hearty shard]

david r u ready to become french

[unique crane]

what the fuck are you yapping

[spare zodiac]

it does

[celest thorn]

Does sl without wifi be able to connect to the chinese servers

Does sl scan my eyes?

[unique crane]

I think your going crazy

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

Crazy you aren’t getting it

[unique crane]

no

[spare zodiac]

david is also chineese!

[upper vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kXzvhaNztVw

[unique crane]

See thats the reasonw hy

I dont watch youtube shorts

tiktok

or instagram

[upper vapor]

based

[celest thorn]

Is hubert chinese?

[spare zodiac]

near china trust

[hearty shard]

hubert is a femboy

huge difference

[upper vapor]

[hearty shard]

dont look at me like that

[unique crane]

Smartest USA senator

Man Ive seen videos them talking about guns too

they are old and clueless

[upper vapor]

if i pull the trigger, will the gun fire?

[unique crane]

Big scary black AR 15

(it has aimbot)

[unique crane]

Thats not even the new keycard

get out

[spare zodiac]

no that is the sticker forever forgotten on Exiled's discord

[hearty shard]

(i added this to exiled)

[spare zodiac]

ofc u did

[unique crane]

Is Eve a femboy?

[hearty shard]

i hope not

[unique crane]

You didnt say no

[hearty shard]

well

that implies im a dude

which is

kinda

transphobic

[upper vapor]

kinda humanphobic

what am i saying

[spare zodiac]

jobophobic

[unique crane]

Kinda phobophobic

[upper vapor]

xd

david can we get custom rolloff curves for audio toys

cuz unity is stupid

[spare zodiac]

david can we david?

we david can

[upper vapor]

i hate unity

[hearty shard]

wat

[upper vapor]

it doesn't fade out entirely

so after 10 units it's still audible until like 500 units if you use the default logarithmic curve

SL culls speakers but unity doesn't do that natively

[hearty shard]

its kinda like how 173 tantrum audio works

[upper vapor]

but i want the sound to disappear after 10 units
yet it DOESN'T

[hearty shard]

yeah

im just saying 173 tantrum audio has same issue

probably other audios too

[upper vapor]

ah

[hearty shard]

tantrum can be heard from across the map

through zones

[spare zodiac]

it's like the one curve that goes infinitely lower, but never touching the other one

[upper vapor]

that's a uh

math

[slate flume]

So

What the hell are ItemTierFlags

[unique crane]

Enum to describe a rarity of item

used by disarming system & 106 pocket dimension

[slate flume]

Interesting

I'm reading the 106 code rn

If you know off-hand, how are tier flags used?

Like what do they affect for disarming and pocket dimension?

[unique crane]

You cant disarm someone while they are holding rare or more item

and the more rare the item is

the more likely it is to get out of pocket dimension

[slate flume]

That's

So cool

[pallid galleon]

Not me manually assigning rarity to all items literally yesterday . o 0 ()

[slate flume]

Yeah well

The rarity system is weird

COM-18 is on the same level as FR-MG-0 and SCP-127

[pallid galleon]

okay I'm glad I did my own system now

[slate flume]

Literally haha

I'm gonna have to do my own system as well for a feature some players are asking for

I wanted to see what was available in the code

[barren pasture]

Is the zombie attack not a UNIVERSAL damage handler?

[hearty shard]

its Scp049DamageHandler

or smth

it uses AttackType.Scp0492

[unique crane]

^

[slate flume]

Soooo guys

I learned

If you have PlayerHurting and then say ev.IsAllowed = false; and then hit the overcharge button, 079 doesn't die

💀

[hearty shard]

me when not letting 079 die

[celest thorn]

me when 079 just takes damage

[slate flume]

That's probably why

[celest thorn]

yea

just check if damagehandler is RecontainmentDamageHandler

or the death translation is Recontained

ig should be easier

[slate flume]

But then I'd have to do that in EVERY OnPlayerHurting

I could just patch it

[celest thorn]

its just a line

bro

if(ev.DamageHandler is RecontainmentDamageHandler)
    return;

[slate flume]

I know but

I'd have to go to like 15 quadrillion different files and change it

[celest thorn]

Bro why

[slate flume]

My plugin has

SO MUCH

[celest thorn]

Modules?

[slate flume]

So much shit

[slate flume]

It's mostly custom item stuff

[celest thorn]

i mean what i do with custom items is just use an abstract

and check from there

[slate flume]

I do too

[celest thorn]

so do events that are virtual method

[slate flume]

I do

[celest thorn]

🧠

[slate flume]

😁

[restive turret]

SKILL ISSUE

[slate flume]

I have like 50 custom items

[celest thorn]

Just modify it in the virtual?????

do an internal

[slate flume]

Only like 15 of them modify onplayerhurting

And they all do different clauses and things

[celest thorn]

and the internal check and then calls the virtual

[slate flume]

I have no reason to put it in the abstract class

[celest thorn]

...

[slate flume]

Bro

You're telling me for every event that I should put it in the abstract class?

[celest thorn]

Not everything...

i do for the most basics

stuff

[slate flume]

OnPlayerHurting is used by less than half of my items

[celest thorn]

like picking up

etc..

[slate flume]

Same

The stuff I use all the time I have in the abstract class

[slate flume]

But

[true sierra]

exiled is mildly pissing me off Zer0

[slate flume]

Putting it in the abstract class does nothing for me

[restive turret]

uninstall then

[slate flume]

Because majoritarily they all do different shit

[true sierra]

i cant

[slate flume]

Some of them increase damage, some do crazy shit, some heal

[celest thorn]

uninstall it

[slate flume]

@celest thorn There is no point in abstracting that

[celest thorn]

do like everyone else here

[slate flume]

The only common denominator is the initial check

[celest thorn]

i would say make a common stuff and just check if they have like IDamageMultiplier

[hearty shard]

Port it

[celest thorn]

that already simpliefies it

[true sierra]

i cant just rewrite 102 hours of code from the past week to be strictly labapi

[slate flume]

Wdym

[hearty shard]

you could

[celest thorn]

you create an interface

[hearty shard]

LUCID

[mild ice]

Not with that attitude!!

[true sierra]

its custom roles specifically that piss me off

[celest thorn]

and do in your plugin a check for that

[mild ice]

Hi Eve

[true sierra]

TryGet returns none

[celest thorn]

when damage is done

[true sierra]

oh hi lucid lol

[hearty shard]

it is ur favorite eve

[celest thorn]

fr it took me 2 hours to migrate everything

[slate flume]

For like four custom items out of dozens?

[hearty shard]

probably

[slate flume]

That's so much extra work

For what

You're telling me to cram 15 quadrillion things into my abstract class for a small subset of items

[true sierra]

what

[slate flume]

That's dumb

[worthy rune]

not sure how you can port something that uses exiled custom roles, seems like alot of work

[true sierra]

does labapi come with its own custom roles system?

[worthy rune]

no

[hearty shard]

nah

[slate flume]

No

[mild ice]

I don't know any others...

[true sierra]

okay lol

[hearty shard]

you just gotta make ur own

[true sierra]

NOOO

[hearty shard]

see im ur favorite

[hearty shard]

not too difficult to start w exiled as a base

i mean thats what i did for my own

[slate flume]

This is essentially my whole point @celest thorn

[mild ice]

Yeah :D

[hearty shard]

and now here i am rewriting it after ages to be not stinky

[celest thorn]

bro

its so easy

[hearty shard]

;D

[slate flume]

It's extra bloat that's unnecessary and removes like 1 line from 4 modules

[celest thorn]

let me take as an example sl

[slate flume]

It doesn't matter that it's easy

[celest thorn]

if you make it

[slate flume]

It matters that it's unnecessary

[true sierra]

i just need exiled ppl to fix
CustomRole.TryGet(player, out var CustomRoles)
then im good

[celest thorn]

its more scalable

for the future

always think it like this

[hearty shard]

fix it urself

[slate flume]

For the 2 extra items I make bro?

I'm not a game dev

I'm a plugin dev

This is one small server

I don't need to make everything scalable

This plugin is private

[celest thorn]

that doesn't mean

you shouldn't

future you will thank you

don't become pirate software

[slate flume]

Bro you sound insane

You're saying create an interface to do a damage multiplier in my abstract custom item class so I can abstract the hurting event for like 4 items and because it'll be "Easier for future me"

It's literally

4 lines right now

[celest thorn]

Its litteraly so easy

i don't understand why its such a problem

[slate flume]

Because it's unnecessary

If I follow that modo I'll have like 15 interfaces for all my shit

I don't need that

[celest thorn]

you are complaning that you have 15k stuff

[slate flume]

I'm not complaining

[celest thorn]

and you can simplify like already 4 of them

so

[slate flume]

I can simplify them by 1 line

By creating an interface

And an abstract

That ends up being more lines

I feel like the point is completely going over your head

[slate flume]

If I have one custom item that heals someone you'd tell me to abstract it in an interface in case I make more

That's so absurd

[celest thorn]

no

[slate flume]

If I was making a public plugin sure

But why put in the extra work

[true sierra]

I cant fix something i dont have the solution to, i dont even know why the problem is.

[slate flume]

There's little point

[celest thorn]

if its one why

if its 10 yes

[slate flume]

It's 4

[celest thorn]

10 is an example

bruh

[slate flume]

I don't have 10 custom items modifying damage

At least not in that way

Which is my WHOLE POIINT

[celest thorn]

bro 10 is an example number

[slate flume]

If I had a bunch of items that used it, I'd make it into an interface

[celest thorn]

it could be 1000000000000000000000000

it could be 2

[slate flume]

Cool

It's not

[slate flume]

^^^^^^

[celest thorn]

if you feel like not doing it then don't

im just giving you an advice

[slate flume]

My whole point is that it's unnecessary

But you don't get that

The point of abstracting is for shared behavior

If 5% of my derived classes use that behavior, and that 5% is not a large subset, there's no point in further abstraction

I think that's called what

I heard it somewhere

Shared responsibility principle or something

No no

Single-responsibility principle

My abstract class has the job of maintaining all the custom items, not running the specific logic for a small subset of modules

So it handles the spawning, giving, pickup logic, etc.

And then the specific unique parts are left to the derived classes

[celest thorn]

bro

you realize

you are talking alone

[slate flume]

Whatever bro

[celest thorn]

idk at this point don't do it lol

[slate flume]

If you wanna learn more about it I read a cool book for it

I can't seem to find where it is

But uh http://principles-wiki.net/collections:robert_c._martin_s_principle_collection this is the gist of it

[celest thorn]

honestly

i've never read a book

or seen a video regarding on how to code

i just learned

[slate flume]

Fair

I apologize for getting so heated

[celest thorn]

the only thing i've ever ready were the stuff for java like the base rules among dev

[slate flume]

That's my bad

[celest thorn]

nah don't worry

like i was an asshole a bit :3

[slate flume]

It happens lol

[celest thorn]

ig

[slate flume]

I have like 3 things I know about for coding and the SOLID principles is one I'm proud of

Haha it's dope

This guy was fr kinda smart

[celest thorn]

im going to uni

[slate flume]

I know like nothing about C# but I know a bit about programming generally

[celest thorn]

without ever studying programming

[slate flume]

It'll be fire trust

You got it though

You're a highly competent dev

You've been schooling people for a long time in these chats haha

[celest thorn]

ME???

[slate flume]

Ong

[celest thorn]

im crazy stupid

im not competent bro

[hearty shard]

[celest thorn]

idk why everyone thinks so

[slate flume]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome

You're the GOAT you just have to believe in yourself

Programmers by and large love to be perfectionists

[celest thorn]

i know what it is

[slate flume]

I figured but I thought it'd be more poignant to link it

[celest thorn]

idk im not competent enough

im a noobie