#plugins-dev-chat
upper vapor
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restive turret
That would be hell
random scaffold
public static void SendFakeSyncVar<T>(this Player target, NetworkBehaviour networkBehaviour, ulong dirtyBit, T syncVar)
how i can use it to change category?
upper vapor
what category?
random scaffold
limits
upper vapor
that's a sync list
random scaffold
i know
restive turret
restive turret
look in the repo 😭
Hes blind dw
viral rivet
i tried using PocketDimension.ForceInside but the player gets still tipped outside the pocket dimension
upper vapor
mirror is hard
reál
random scaffold
to fake sync
upper vapor
Slejm... what if you added XML docs, maybe people would not understand more
restive turret
desiredPlayer.SendFakeSyncListSet<sbyte>(ServerConfigSynchronizer.Singleton, 0, CategoryIndexHere, ValueHere);
random scaffold
why 0
restive turret
0 should be good otherwise you can check the index of the list by.
Going into the ServerConfigSynchronizer ctor. (You will see a list being added there
restive turret
In the ctor you prob need to see
AddSyncObject(blablabla)
You can calculate of the index of it by just.
First of it is 0
Second is 1
restive turret
Slejm... what if you added XML docs, maybe people would ~~not~~ understand more
Ye perfectly, my horrible explanation vs a horrible doc made by me
icy knoll
write what?
restive turret
Documentation
hearty shard
:flowercat:
restive turret
Not this
hearty shard
restive turret
upper vapor
<a:catFlower:1300782474758193193>
hearty shard
https://tenor.com/view/the-bodies-will-never-be-found-flowerjam-cat-flower-gif-2...
I agree
humble haven
public static bool Prefix(NetworkConnection conn, VoiceMessage msg)
{
if (msg.SpeakerNull || msg.Speaker.netId != conn.identity.netId)
return false;
if (msg.Speaker.roleManager.CurrentRole is not IVoiceRole voiceRole)
return false;
if (!voiceRole.VoiceModule.CheckRateLimit())
return false;
Player p = Player.Get(msg.Speaker);
if (p != null)
{
var ev = new VoiceChattingEventArgs(p, msg, voiceRole.VoiceModule);
Exiled.Events.Handlers.Player.OnVoiceChatting(ev);
if (!ev.IsAllowed)
return false;
if (msg.Channel == VoiceChatChannel.Radio)
{
var ev2 = new TransmittingEventArgs(p, voiceRole.VoiceModule);
Exiled.Events.Handlers.Player.OnTransmitting(ev2);
if (!ev2.IsAllowed)
return false;
}
}
if (VoiceChatMutes.IsMuted(msg.Speaker, false))
return false;
VoiceChatChannel sendChannel = voiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateSend(msg.Channel);
if (sendChannel == VoiceChatChannel.None)
return false;
foreach (ReferenceHub receiver in ReferenceHub.AllHubs)
{
if (receiver.roleManager.CurrentRole is not IVoiceRole receiverVoiceRole)
continue;
VoiceChatChannel receiveChannel = receiverVoiceRole.VoiceModule.ValidateReceive(msg.Speaker, sendChannel);
if (receiveChannel == VoiceChatChannel.None)
continue;
msg.Channel = receiveChannel;
if (receiveChannel == VoiceChatChannel.Radio && !receiver.CanReceiveRadioTransmition(msg.Speaker))
msg.Channel = VoiceChatChannel.Proximity;
receiver.connectionToClient.Send(msg, 0);
}
return false;
}`
when they talk theres no sound
just the radio static
it also removes all talking
restive turret
Thank you for contacting labAPI devs & plugin devs, someone will reply
slate flume
```cs
public static bool Prefix(NetworkConnection conn, VoiceMessage msg)
{
...
Why are you doing this in the first place?
There's gotta be an easier way to do whatever it is you're trying to do
I mean in every code path you're just choosing not to run the original code
What function are you patching?
Also
You're using exiled?
Wouldn't it be better to ask in the exiled discord and not the LabAPI discord (the thing you're electing not to use)?
slate flume
What function are you patching?
I presume it's ServerReceiveMessage in VoiceTransceiver but there's a small chance I'm wrong
unique crane
```cs
public static bool Prefix(NetworkConnection conn, VoiceMessage msg)
{
...
We do not provide support for Exiled. But it appears that your missing the voiceRole.VoiceModule.CurrentChannel setter after the validation before the foreach
VoiceChatChannel validatedChannel = sender.VoiceModule.ValidateSend(msg.Channel);
if (validatedChannel == VoiceChatChannel.None)
return;
sender.VoiceModule.CurrentChannel = validatedChannel;
morning david
unique crane
morning david
upper vapor
What your plan today, how much stuff we gonna break today?
we're gonna break Vector3 
restive turret
upper vapor
https://tenor.com/view/epic-npc-man-hu-ha-nice-day-for-fishing-morning-mornin-gi...
viva la dirt league moment
royal mica
we're gonna break Vector3 <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
public Vector3(float x, float y, float z)
{
this.y = x;
this.z = y;
this.x = z;
}
``` 
celest thorn
Yo stupid question if i have a transform and the transform is (1, 2, 4) in size and i add inside the transform an InteractableToy it will take that size or its separated (non networked)
upper vapor
if you use lossyScale it will have the "actual" transform
also works if you have it parented with localScale
celest thorn
also works if you have it parented with localScale <:toomuchtrolling:97434588081...
InteractableToy = InteractableToy.Create(transform);
Im just doing this lol
is it enough
celest thorn
no
upper vapor
then you have to set the properties manually
celest thorn
so i just InteractableToy.Scale = transform.lossyScale;
upper vapor
yep
upper vapor
set the networkscale on the toy base
wait what
wdym
oh the time
yeah make it 0.1
celest thorn
wdym
InteractableToy::InteractionDuration
i cannot
its a single
so 1 will do the trick
celest thorn
ok yea it works
humble haven
We do not provide support for Exiled. But it appears that your missing the voice...
Thank you so much. I know you don’t officially provide support for Exiled, but honestly, I think you are much more efficient at answering questions and offering help.
Soon, as soon as I finish a few things I need to take care of, I’ll also explore LabAPI.
random scaffold
@restive turret my god
how i can use it? https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions
just copy directories?
restive turret
In actions you find the dll
And you same as other place, you add the DLL into your project
random scaffold
why here sort?
restive turret
What
restive turret
Because indexing needs ti be smaller to bigger
hearty shard
why here sort?
cuz of the .Where, so they prob ensure its ordered correctly
restive turret
Yes
restive turret
Lmao
restive turret
What the value of WeaponList.Count
restive turret
Does your player have armor on?
random scaffold
no
restive turret
The index should be the index of the ServerConfigSynchronizer.Singleton.CategoryLimits's index
Firearm category is prob 5?
Check the enum and report what the value of ItemCategory.Fireaem is
random scaffold
4
restive turret
why patch works but it same drop items
Also I dont get this message
random scaffold
that?
restive turret
Bro
Remove the index searching
Set the value just to 4
0,
4,
(sybte)WeaponListCount
restive turret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Idk never tested it
Check client Player.log file
And server .log too
random scaffold
need additional big brain
random scaffold
Check client Player.log file
where it
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Index: 2
int index = InventorySystem.Configs.InventoryLimits.StandardCategoryLimits
.Where(x => x.Value >= 0)
.OrderBy(x => x.Key)
.ToList()
.FindIndex(x => x.Key == ItemCategory.Firearm);
``` but same dont worksOk, I'm gonna just ignore you
random scaffold
Ok, I'm gonna just ignore you<:SteamHappy:1157333712950800497>
GameObjectPools.PoolObject:SetupPoolObject()
PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager:InitializeNewRole(RoleTypeId, RoleChangeReason, RoleSpawnFlags, NetworkReader)
PlayerRoles.RoleSyncInfo:.ctor(NetworkReader)
PlayerRoles.PlayerRolesNetUtils:ReadRoleSyncInfo(NetworkReader)
Mirror.NetworkReader:Read()
Mirror.<>c__DisplayClass8_0`2:<WrapHandler>b__0(NetworkConnection, NetworkReader, Int32)
Mirror.NetworkClient:UnpackAndInvoke(NetworkReader, Int32)
Mirror.NetworkClient:OnTransportData(ArraySegment`1, Int32)
Mirror.LiteNetLib4Mirror.LiteNetLib4MirrorClient:OnNetworkReceive(NetPeer, NetPacketReader, Byte, DeliveryMethod)
LiteNetLib.NetManager:ProcessEvent(NetEvent)
LiteNetLib.NetManager:PollEvents()
Config Synchronizer (netId=424): ServerConfigSynchronizer OnDeserialize size mismatch. It read 17 bytes, which caused a size hash mismatch of 11 vs. 1A. Make sure that OnSerialize and OnDeserialize write/read the same amount of data in all cases.
``` ?
restive turret
I gonna search what is that and how
Since apparently wants 9 more bytes
I get the 8 byte but wtf is the last
upper vapor
What if you set the Ammo limits to max values and patch the limit on the server
fresh zenith
how can i teleport an player to another room?
icy knoll
how can i teleport an player to another room?
Player::Position = Room::Position
upper vapor
Add Vector3.one
fresh zenith
got an small example for me maybe :P
restive turret
```c#
GameObjectPools.PoolObject:SetupPoolObject()
PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager...
I don't get this message is it too much or too few??
fresh zenith
it's as simple as that?
might be but my brain can't really think of a way to get rooms by their name and also their position
random scaffold
I don't get this message is it too much or too few??
idk
random scaffold
I don't get this message is it too much or too few??
him need 26
but he received 17
0x11 and 0x1A
chatgpt said must be 18
SyncObject ID (ulong), count (uint), type (byte), index (int), new value (sbyte) = 18 bytes
8 4 1 4 1
random scaffold
slejm moment
restive turret
Bro I said check the index on your IDE or dnspy for the index value
You didn't do that
I just assumed its a 0
random scaffold
same drop items
bruh
i can pickup
but it drop items
if i select someone weapon
it write 1
royal mica
Do you want to patch out the weapon dropping shit with the armor thing?
royal mica
Why desync, just prevent the server from dropping
random scaffold
Why desync, just prevent the server from dropping
but why it drops
if i return 8
and client too have
random scaffold
which method need patch there?
royal mica
Lemme find it, 1 second
random scaffold
dirtyArmorPlayer.inventory.RemoveEverythingExceedingLimits();
it?
private static void UpdateDirty()
{
if (BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers.Count == 0)
return;
if (NetworkServer.active)
{
foreach (ReferenceHub dirtyArmorPlayer in BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers)
{
if (!(dirtyArmorPlayer == (ReferenceHub) null))
dirtyArmorPlayer.inventory.RemoveEverythingExceedingLimits();
}
}
BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers.Clear();
}
this
Almost
keep the dirty update intact as you'll do some funky stuff
prevent this function from running via a Prefix tbh
royal mica
I know this pain, cause I suggested in the LabAPi suggestion channel for a toggle for this annoying code
Like I cannot test in Tutorial without getting instantly monitor smash mad due to weapons dropping
fresh zenith
does anyone have an small example how i get the rooms and their position by their name?
upper vapor
Like I cannot test in Tutorial without getting instantly monitor smash mad due t...
REAL
random scaffold
does anyone have an small example how i get the rooms and their position by thei...
Room.Get
which players contains BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers?
why it make like the player is dirty
royal mica
Look at functions which use SetPlayerDirty
random scaffold
Look at functions which use `SetPlayerDirty`
it just add the player
random scaffold
which players contains BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers?
to it
public static void SetPlayerDirty(ReferenceHub player)
{
BodyArmorUtils.DirtyArmorPlayers.Add(player);
}
royal mica
Yes, but look at function which USE that function
Search for references
there are 5 of them, each adding the player for different reason
royal mica
but TLDR: player has armor, needs update, thus is dirty
royal mica
why holstered using it
I assume it's a bugfix or a backup dirty check if the others failed
For example it happens in tutorial, cause you can add 5 items in your inventory, you want to switch and then the guns explode out of you like confetti
Also your braincells out of frustration, but it's just a ketchup bottle you smashed into the wall
and now you have to clean it up
good job
royal mica
You can create a HasPlayer which uses ReferenceHub
if you want a more optimized version
Also Player.Get() uses UserID + Cache, so I do not think it's that slow?
upper vapor
is it optimized?
it's a dictionary lookup which is as fast as you can go
hash code is from the cached ptr stored in the Object class
royal mica
after subsequent looksup 
royal mica
hash code is from the cached ptr stored in the Object class
huh?
I'm seeing this for the Get part:
public static bool TryGet(string? userId, [NotNullWhen(true)] out Player? player)
{
player = (Player) null;
if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(userId))
return false;
if (Player.UserIdCache.TryGetValue(userId, out player) && player.IsOnline)
return true;
player = Player.List.FirstOrDefault<Player>((Func<Player, bool>) (x => x.UserId == userId));
if (player == null)
return false;
Player.UserIdCache[userId] = player;
return true;
}
this is a lookup by referencehub
royal mica
You can check the UpdateDirty when it is ran
random scaffold
why i cant compile in release mode?
he cant find dependencies
but in debug mode he found
royal mica
wait you are supposed to build in release mode
random scaffold
Csproj skill issue?
idk
upper vapor
Northernwood 😭
The default csproj has optimized code in release, there isn't much difference
I just have Optimizations enabled pretty much always, this way I don't have to switch configurations
royal mica
why i cant compile in release mode?
do you have conditions in your csproj?
random scaffold
royal mica
what the fuck is happening here
upper vapor
Wtf
upper vapor
What happens if you build with VS
royal mica
why the fuck did your dotnet start speaking minecraft enchanting language
actually scratch that
random scaffold
Не удалось найти тип или имя пространства имен
royal mica
it's cat calling sounds
random scaffold
error
royal mica
upper vapor
it's cat calling sounds
XDddd
royal mica
wait, actually I think this is a unicode error
What language is your OS in
cause those Рќ looks like a double byte letters
random scaffold
What language is your OS in
royal mica
and the rendering is shit
oh yeah you have korean, switch to that and run dotnet
(or other non roman typeset language, sorry if I got it wrong)
royal mica
where do you run the dotnet? terminal or rider?
random scaffold
find dependencies
royal mica
Ok I'm slowly believeing AI is useful for random shit
Which reference does it not found?
random scaffold
all
royal mica
The error lists all dependencies?
random scaffold
or not
upper vapor
Show your csproj
royal mica
so the $(OTHER_REFERENCES) doesn't work
typoi
unique crane
Protected IV
random scaffold
Protected IV
protection from nato*
unique crane
???
icy knoll
n list breaker
just replace \u with \\u
i.e. just replace 1 backslash with 2
that's what i do
random scaffold
it help me break n list?
true cedar
huh
icy knoll
ohhhh i thought someone was using this in a plugin you have to break out of noparse or smth
mb
random scaffold
ohhhh i thought someone was using this in a plugin you have to break out of nopa...
thx for way
break it
true cedar
@_@
true cedar
its a setting lol
fair rain
What’s the best way to check Cuffed/cuffer related info in labapi? Migrating an exiled plugin to labapi and couldn’t really find anything easy
true cedar
random scaffold
on desktop version
unique crane
What’s the best way to check Cuffed/cuffer related info in labapi? Migrating an ...
IsDisarmed and DisarmedBy
Player properties
fair rain
`IsDisarmed` and `DisarmedBy`
Thank you, that’s should have been obvious but I just didn’t know what term to search for lmao
icy knoll
accept the csg and just restart ur server?
icy knoll
if you dont accept them youll eventually just not have ur server verified probably
random scaffold
me need only delete it
icy knoll
why not just accept?
icy knoll
tell the owner to accept it lol
random scaffold
easier patch it
icy knoll
im not sure they'd like the consequences of doing that but sure
idk the method tho
*hopefully it's a generic method so it cant be patched 
*
random scaffold
*hopefully it's a generic method so it cant be patched <:TrollDespair:1198744721...
bruh
each message from console send to discord channel
cool
random scaffold
detonate easier
upper vapor
each message from console send to discord channel
how to explode discord
royal mica
easier patch it
You shouldn't patch it. Either accept it or disable listing on server list
This is one of those things that requires attention to fix
restive turret
prob easier to spam the owner of the server to accept it
carmine prawn
can I keep the LightSourceToy directly in front of the player's view without using any Update?
tulip kiln
nwapi had this, no? <:Heartbreaking:1350114967377940481>
Funny thing, I thought it did
But just checked and I needed a patch earlier
static meteor
I created a issue awhile ago for attachment events
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/123
unique crane
Why is there no attachment event
Something we work on merging in yea
celest thorn
Does someone know if i can get the client position?
Because by the FPCmotor i know you can and i want to try and just see whats the difference between the 2 because desync is going crazy quite alot
upper vapor
receivedposition i guess?
celest thorn
receivedposition i guess?
receivedposition is not the one in the server?
hearty shard
receivedposition is not the one in the server?
/// <summary>
/// Gets or sets the player's relative position as perceived by the server.
/// </summary>
public RelativePosition RelativePosition
{
get => new(Owner.Position);
set => Owner.Position = value.Position;
}
/// <summary>
/// Gets or sets the player's relative position as perceived by the client.
/// </summary>
public RelativePosition ClientRelativePosition
{
get => FirstPersonController.FpcModule.Motor.ReceivedPosition;
set => FirstPersonController.FpcModule.Motor.ReceivedPosition = value;
}
from exiled
celest thorn
/// <summary>
/// Gets or sets the player's relative position as perceiv...
Hmm so yea
ok nice to know
celest thorn
/// <summary>
/// Gets or sets the player's relative position as perceiv...
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcMotor), nameof(FpcMotor.ReceivedPosition), MethodType.Setter)]
public class ReceivedPositionTest
{
public static bool Prefix(FpcMotor __instance, ref RelativePosition __result)
{
Logger.Info(__result.Position);
return true;
}
}
I guess it doesn't work lol
hearty shard
idk
im going based off yamato
yamato made that change or told me to i cant remember
plain gazelle
How can i send every player a hint at the same time?
-# just loop through Player.List? :x
icy knoll
How can i send every player a hint at the same time?
-# just loop through Player...
Player.ReadyList
but yeah just loop through
*dont do Player.List because if someone is connecting at the same time... yeah ur fucked 😭 *
severe cave
How can i send every player a hint at the same time?
-# just loop through Player...
at the same time impossible
unique crane
Does someone know if i can get the client position?
FpcSyncData::TryApply
Here is where server process player's input
celest thorn
FpcSyncData::TryApply
Nah i got it
unique crane
ok
celest thorn
I just did it differently but it works
hearty shard
you use it too...
unique crane
I do not care
hearty shard
i am going to fight you
true cedar
why does nw use
!(something is castedother)
my money's on someone didn't realize that was a thing
upper vapor
when .editorconfig in labapi
true cedar
and they just made it the code style
upper vapor
my money's on someone didn't realize that was a thing
vs users (and also rider users) ignoring the IDE yelling at them
limber silo
is not
because this was old code
and that wasn't a thing
is not was added later than is
hearty shard
damn
upper vapor
4 years ago..
upper vapor
i guess they didn't upgrade the C# version
hearty shard
no they did
upper vapor
not at that point
hearty shard
i made a pr with it without changing lang version
upper vapor
when they started
limber silo
this was made when is not wasn't a thing
hearty shard
labapi?
limber silo
rignt now the codebase is full of is not
hearty shard
hearty shard
it was david...
limber silo
which is pretty weird
hearty shard
david is weird...
limber silo
true cedar
lets blame eve
limber silo
receivedposition is not the one in the server?
FpcModule.Position = Position in real time in the server
FpcModule.Motor.ReceivedPosition = Last received position by the client on the server which is used to interpolate
restive turret
david is weird...
Create a PR then
hearty shard
Create a PR then
i said i did
hearty shard
i made a pr with it without changing lang version
guh
restive turret
Proof
hearty shard
check github 
i also removed 2 weird
catch()
{
throw;
}
cuz why throw after a catch
restive turret
Probably had internal write error
hearty shard
its meant to throw exception, but its weird to catch it and then throw it back
grand flower
Useful to do some handling before rethrowing the exception
hearty shard
Useful to do some handling before rethrowing the exception
But theres no handling
Its try finally statement
Finally returns after even if exception
grand flower
What SlejmUr said
hearty shard
Ignore what i just said
grand flower
Probably
hearty shard
idk what sjelm is saying
grand flower
There probably is something in the catch statement
But it's stripped out from our version
random scaffold
eve moment
very big change
oh
lol
why it looks that
!(shit is otherShit)
who wrote this
icy knoll
git blame the file
restive turret
Just blame the file
hearty shard
very big change
amazing
hearty shard
git blame the file
i said 50 times who 😭
it wasnt meant to be a big pr, just changing stuff that looks weird to me
fair rain
`IsDisarmed` and `DisarmedBy`
What about IsJumping, IsReloading, IsUsingStamina? I swear I'm looking i just don't see anything that isn't event based
hearty shard
What about IsJumping, IsReloading, IsUsingStamina? I swear I'm looking i just do...
IsUsingStamina doesnt rly have anything rn but SecretAPI has an effect that disables stamina usage
Isjumping can be replaced with a grounded check (i dont remember the logic for that one)
fair rain
Isjumping can be replaced with a grounded check (i dont remember the logic for t...
let me search for grounded but i guess otherwise check difference between position and room position or sumn?
fair rain
is character controller a built-in to the game instead of labapi?
hearty shard
its unity iirc
fair rain
oh sick ty
hearty shard
anyway
if (player.RoleBase is not IFpcRole fpc)
return;
Then use fpc and get the motor or wtv, should have info
fair rain
Okay you're a lifesaver
fair rain
anyway
if (player.RoleBase is not IFpcRole fpc)
return;
so
p.RoleBase is IFpcRole fpc && !fpc.FpcModule.CharController.isGrounded;
equals IsJumping/Airborne yes? more or less?
hearty shard
should
fair rain
❤️
hearty shard
isgrounded means theyre on the ground
fair rain
right so not necessarily jumping but fucking close enough lmao
fair rain
any way to tell if a player or weapon is reloading?
hearty shard
no clue, probably via the firearm item
fair rain
yeah couldnt find in Firearm so probably some similar Unity check that I'm too unity-noob to know about lol
hearty shard
yeah couldnt find in Firearm so probably some similar Unity check that I'm too u...
Firearms should not be unity
But it is basegame FirearmItem or wtv not labapi
And then some module idk
fair rain
sorry me = noob but what is wtv again?
fair rain
And then some module idk
heard
hearty shard
WhaTeVer
fair rain
im the youngest boomer i know at 28
im assuming theres not like a public repo for base game code so i can just ctrl+shift+f instead of just digging through assemblies in VS
hearty shard
im assuming theres not like a public repo for base game code so i can just ctrl+...
Yep
fair rain
hooray lol
wait im stupid i can just look at exiled's code maybe
yep
firearm.TryGetModule(out IReloaderModule module) && module.IsReloading;
IsJumping:
player.RoleBase is IFpcRole fpc && fpc.FpcModule.Motor.IsJumping;
random scaffold
fair rain
What's the best way to initialize ServerSpecificSettingsSync.DefinedSettings for compatibility with other labapi plugins with SSsettings? I have
ServerSpecificSettingsSync.DefinedSettings ??= new ServerSpecificSettingBase[1]; followed by an Append(...).ToArray() call but like, won't that limit the size for other plugins
bc if i have no other plugins on the server then DefinedSettings is always null for me
hearty shard
bc if i have no other plugins on the server then DefinedSettings is always null ...
No plugins it will always default to null
fair rain
yeah def, but since it's an array, like how do i pick a good size
i mean then other plugins have to check for resizing right? seems bad but i might be dumb
hearty shard
When you .ToArray() the size is done properly
Since its a new array
Just dont modify the existing array
fair rain
yooooo pls advertise
hearty shard
theres examples and im working on expanding the functionality to improve per player settings
fair rain
oh I've heard about SecretAPI. Sounds dope but I was worried about creating plugin-conflicts bc my plugins are already buggy as hell when randos try to use them
hearty shard
i mean secretapi settings break if a new plugin calls the setting thing
you can fix it urself by just patching and calling secretapi method or
fair rain
welp
fair rain
ayo hotfix? lol
hearty shard
a beta release*
im releasing 2.0.0-beta1 tmrw lol
i just havent had time lately
stressing out xd
hearty shard
im releasing 2.0.0-beta1 tmrw lol
or ill try to
😭
it has breaking changes so i might just release a hotfix alongside it, since its easy patches to just copy paste for fix
true cedar
I made awesome wrappers for SSSS
gasp
lethal atlas
Nerd chat
covert flame
Quick question, is there a way to change the name of an item when you hover over it in the inventory?
static meteor
No its client side unless its a custom keycard
covert flame
Hm, that's okay I guess, I can work around that
static meteor
You can send a hint like this to say the name
covert flame
Yeah that's what I was thinking
teal junco
port all exiled stuff to labapi
and then eventually realize
exiled was labapi already
icy knoll
CustomItems, CustomRoles:
me when just use the labapi versions
teal junco
me when just use the labapi versions
i dont believe such a thing exists yet
restive turret
I have one but that just yaml shit
static meteor
restive turret
uci is funny
icy knoll
ive heard so many people complain about how complicated uci is 😭
and i just find it ironic based on the name
restive turret
But a great project, for items I don't think great for yml
restive turret
and i just find it ironic based on the name
Same as my SimpleCustomRoles
Definitely not simple
static meteor
UCR is also on LabAPI but not in the forum
static meteor
Theres only beta builds for UCR on LabAPI rn
teal junco
UCR is also on LabAPI but not in the forum
UCR is good but i had to delete it because it was responsible for mysterious crashes
sadly i had to make my own alternative
restive turret
SCR had some crashes but because of Scaling
restive turret
sadly i had to make my own alternative
Is it OS?
restive turret
Open Source
teal junco
Open Source
half and half
it has a plugin i use to use the roles, but the actual role system is in an open source
i was just too lazy to open source the plugin
wqit
its for exiled
still i dont recommend using my library for your projects
restive turret
Skill issue
teal junco
its literally only made for me
restive turret
still i dont recommend using my library for your projects
Worst for you i guess
*works
teal junco
yeah
if i do a major migration to Lab API i will update this lib to lab api also
Maybe I can start by porting Compound V to lab api
teal junco
Worst for you i guess
yeah
Im overly obsessed with this kind of uniformity if you know what i mean
i wanted to make these puzzle pieces fit together even when they arent meant to
restive turret
Y'know what sad?
Some server instance doesnt have mono installed
Do my script loader doesnt work
Also i trying to move everything to labapi so doesn't have to deal with exiled
icy knoll
Also i trying to move everything to labapi so doesn't have to deal with exiled
same here
ax said they are working on an scp prox chat clone for labapi so im waiting for that and then ill do the rest of the plugins myself
upper vapor
ax said they are working on an scp prox chat clone for labapi so im waiting for ...
Me when Secret API 2.0 soon-ish
restive turret
same here
Funny is my plugins now completely on labapi, so I have to deal with Kadava's plugin to port into labAPI and clean up
icy knoll
Me when Secret API 2.0 soon-ish
wait ur waiting for secretapi 2.0?
upper vapor
Idk
slate flume
ax said they are working on an scp prox chat clone for labapi so im waiting for ...
Prox chat
Is easy
upper vapor
I haven't checked if there are breaking changes with SSSS
icy knoll
I haven't checked if there are breaking changes with SSSS
there is
slate flume
I made it in 1h
Exactly my point
Why wait on a prox chat clone
When you can just
Make it yourself?
upper vapor
Cuz some people don't want to code
icy knoll
because i trust ax's code over mine
restive turret
because i trust ax's code over mine
Definition of insanity
slate flume
Ppl who just wanna install the plugin and have it work
Fair 'nuff
Typically I just expect people who are looking for a plugin for their server to have a plugin dev to do it
upper vapor
Definition of insanity
The definition of insanity is to do something over and over the same way, expecting a change
teal junco
Typically I just expect people who are looking for a plugin for their server to ...
seems a lot of servers have no such plugin dev
they rely on scraping up plugins online
restive turret
Yup
slate flume
The definition of insanity is to do something over and over the same way, expect...
Me throwing guns into 914 to get a Micro:
upper vapor
Typically I just expect people who are looking for a plugin for their server to ...
*loud incorrect buzzer*
upper vapor
Me throwing guns into 914 to get a Micro:
Lol
slate flume
So I just kind of assumed it was the norm
restive turret
So much cool with just "omg 9 custom stuff" and basically it's just used plugins
slate flume
I thought there'd be enough dumbasses like me around
teal junco
So I just kind of assumed it was the norm
only a few servers really do that lol
upper vapor
SO REAL
restive turret
only a few servers really do that lol
Can confirm
upper vapor
I thought there'd be enough dumbasses like me around
Maybe some people know how to tweak open source code
Like a little bit
restive turret
I seen Hungarian servers that just copies plugins but doesn't have a dev
slate flume
Interesting
teal junco
server staff just do not tend to be the most sane people
restive turret
Funny af
restive turret
server staff just do not tend to be the most sane people
Real
slate flume
server staff just do not tend to be the most sane people
Can confirm
The old dev nuked the server lmao
restive turret
cc @ kadava 
slate flume
Wait, quick question
teal junco
one of my plugins saw use in a roleplay server who had literally no dev
upper vapor
The old dev nuked the server lmao
slate flume
How do I redirect incoming player connections
teal junco
so they had several plugins from different sources
teal junco
How do I redirect incoming player connections
to other servers?
teal junco
minecraft lookin ass
slate flume
to other servers?
Yeah
We have two servers rn and I wanna redirect people trying to connect to 1 when it's full
And send them to 2
upper vapor
so they had several plugins from different sources
Let me guess, they weren't compatible
teal junco
Let me guess, they weren't compatible
No it was just funny seeing a hodgepodge of plugins
i do remember actually
upper vapor
We have two servers rn and I wanna redirect people trying to connect to 1 when i...
NWAPI had a sorta easy way to do this iirc
upper vapor
No it was just funny seeing a hodgepodge of plugins
Lmao
teal junco
theu tried installing one of my plugins but immediately uninstalled it because my plugin had too many features
upper vapor
XD
teal junco
which conflicted with existing plugins
upper vapor
"I wonder what happens if I install a plugin that does everything"
teal junco
"I wonder what happens if I install a plugin that does everything"
it seemed to me from their conversations to each other that they barely read about it or read the configs before installing it
no disrespect but it was kinda funny
honestly
it was probably better for them that they didnt use my plugin
it was unstable
now i use it regularly myself and its so much more stable than it used to be and now I think its something im proud of.
upper vapor
teal junco
i think roleplay servers dont appreciate plugins enough, i dunno. i join them and they always host the same scenario every single day with small variations
and it always takes forever to set up
so that they can do another testing day
or containment breach
or whatever
teal junco
Some rp's are good, but long af
maybe my lack of patience is why i dont fully appreciate rps
restive turret
The first thing I see is "Roleplay server" next to Plugins or Vanilla i just "huh, why?"
teal junco
i have done good (to my specific standard) roleplays, but ive never seen a server that hosts them
restive turret
There is already like 3 Hungarian vanilla server I am like "why are you trying to be the 4th??"
teal junco
the roleplay is always run by power trippers, i swear
upper vapor
There is already like 3 Hungarian vanilla server I am like "why are you trying t...
so noone joins any of them
restive turret
so noone joins any of them <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
REAL
slate flume
How do I redirect incoming player connections
🥺
restive turret
There is like less than ~100 Hungarian players and most of them not want to play vanilla
teal junco
the roleplay is always run by power trippers, i swear
join their discord department and spend hours in the game without losing your duolingo streak if you want to have any lore relevance or power
slate flume
Check how the proxy one works
How wah
teal junco
join their discord department and spend hours in the game without losing your du...
also, throwing snowballs and shooting guns is a warnable offence
teal junco
also, throwing snowballs and shooting guns is a warnable offence
because civilians are apparently retards to whom reloading a gun is impossible and too complicated of a task
restive turret
because civilians are apparently retards to whom reloading a gun is impossible a...
Real
Aren't some class D's are murderers? So uhh
upper vapor
Aren't some class D's are murderers? So uhh
amnestics
oh wait they don't get those when they are "drafted" to the foundation 😭😭
teal junco
Real
apparently civilians are known to never touch guns in their lives unless theyre specially trained to use it
slate flume
That's crazy
teal junco
not like millions of people grow up learning how to shoot. or they live in countries where guns are easily obtainable. or guns are not HARD to operate
restive turret
Watching countless films, yes you can figure out how to reload a gun, for recoil ofc you dont know but after some time you can know
upper vapor
USAAAAAA 🦅🦅
teal junco
Watching countless films, yes you can figure out how to reload a gun, for recoil...
I saw someone say "Im sick of the myth that hollywood films can teach people how to use guns"
people wil go to hell and back to justify not allowing scientists to pick up guns
upper vapor
just press R 
teal junco
that is just one of the many weird rules that are designed (whether intentionally or unintentionally) to make the experience unpleasant for newer players
restive turret
teal junco
You want to shoot a gun to defend yourself? Well, apply for a gun license in our Discord! If you don't, a mod will either broadcast to you or spawn as a tutorial to scold you for having a gun in your hands as a civilian.
restive turret
I had to take a course
"Do not look directly at the operational end of The Device"
upper vapor
just say that you've got anomalous powers from an SCP you were testing with the other day
teal junco
And yes, all of our regulars will defend this rule because it does not affect them.
unique crane
Never understood how you can do RP in SL
like
Its just bunch of fellas that dont want anyone else within
Your new? Cant do shit
teal junco
just say that you've got anomalous powers from an SCP you were testing with the ...
Nah theres a rule against that and I think its actually fair
teal junco
Its just bunch of fellas that dont want anyone else within
Literally
upper vapor
bruh
teal junco
Nah theres a rule against that and I think its actually fair
Except....
restive turret
Your new? Cant do shit
Real
teal junco
if youre an established member of the community
upper vapor
Nah theres a rule against that and I think its actually fair
i thought it was meant to be played as if it were in the foundation's universe
teal junco
you can get an anomalous character in most servers
unique crane
Literally
teal junco
i thought it was meant to be played as if it were in the foundation's universe
Its to avoid people posting dogshit anomalous OCs
upper vapor
are you telling me that servers make players create OCs just to roleplay in SL
furries....
🙄
restive turret
I am an anonkmalkuzs guy who can read peoples minds
teal junco
are you telling me that servers make players create OCs just to roleplay in SL
well I thought that was a given
its roleplay
you are playing a character
restive turret
Roling on the play
upper vapor
yeah
teal junco
most people prefer to play their own character
upper vapor
i guess
unique crane
Oh man I remember playing on some server
during christmas when they added particle disruptor
teal junco
Your new? Cant do shit
Site 12, the biggest server, is not welcoming at all
restive turret
Isn't some server just give you a blank char?
unique crane
And some admin fella had great idea
to do RP Event
30 minutes in cell just waiting for something to happen
We waited for the tree SCP to spawn near us
upper vapor
XDDDD
restive turret
30 minutes in cell just waiting for something to happen
💀
unique crane
got disruptor and shot each other
teal junco
I cannot even have a conversation in S 12 without people bothering me about how I dont have a high enough talk score
unique crane
Then one of the rp hosts had slight mental breakdown or idk
that we are ruining the rp
upper vapor
I cannot even have a conversation in S 12 without people bothering me about how ...
gotta get that yapping diploma yk
teal junco
And obviously if I challenge the established rules then they will also get mad
teal junco
30 minutes in cell just waiting for something to happen
Average SL rp
unique crane
Oh and then when I started plugin dev
I just abused my dev role
and made myself a ghost
during RP
best rp ever
people loved it
teal junco
I run light rp events
teal junco
i want to publish the server
either i will find my people
or i will realize theres a reason why most rp servers are the way they are
unique crane
Nah just dont host RP
teal junco
I just find the departments systems and the failrp shit gross
restive turret
Also don't host vanilla either
teal junco
Nah just dont host RP
I already invite my friends, its a fun time
unique crane
I just find the departments systems and the failrp shit gross
Roblox SCP be like:
teal junco
I think that if there wasnt admins breathing over your necks and a power hungry roleplayer whose character is a high ranking administrative personnel at the site with anger issues roleplay would be much more fun
unique crane
perhaps
teal junco
and if you were allowed to be anything other than an intern or d class as a newcomer
unique crane
and if you were allowed to be anything other than an intern or d class as a newc...
This is why you should add some sort of class d zone
Where they can do stuff
teal junco
This is why you should add some sort of class d zone
I make it a point that there should be a d class common area which isnt just the vanilla room with the doors locked
unique crane
Ye
teal junco
its fucking lazy when they just plop d class in the 1x2x1 cell for 30 minutes
and make them wait
only to be tortured
slate flume
"Do not look directly at the operational end of The Device"
Pretty much
unique crane
30 minutes in cell just waiting for something to happen
t
slate flume
Why do people think guns are so hard
I mean for real it's point and shoot
Gun safety training is just all common sense
"Always treat a gun as if it's loaded"
unique crane
Me when someone makes buckshot roulette in SL
teal junco
Gun safety training is just all common sense
i can understand the physical aspects
I know how to safely handle a gun
im not confident i could handle the recoil of every gun i would come across
slate flume
im not confident i could handle the recoil of every gun i would come across
Me neither
But I could use one
unique crane
Yeah like I would understand that underweight Class D couldnt lift the chaos machine gun
But like
Com15?
slate flume
Saying the average person doesn't know how to use a gun is like saying the average person doesn't know how to make a PB&J
unique crane
bruh
restive turret
Me when someone makes buckshot roulette in SL
I think someone already did it
teal junco
Yeah like I would understand that underweight Class D couldnt lift the chaos mac...
erm scientists are untrained personnel
they wouldnt even know how to operate iron sights!!
restive turret
Just only 9x scope
teal junco
maybe they wouldnt know how to unload and reload a gun, or handle the recoil, or understand gun safety
but at the very least
concede to me
please
unique crane
teal junco
that a scientist would be able to point a gun and pull the trigger
unique crane
Their vision of what would scientist do
grand flower
Here at Aperture Science, we fire the whole bullet
restive turret
Here at Aperture Science, we fire the whole bullet
Thats 2 bullet per bullet
teal junco
maybe they wouldnt know how to unload and reload a gun, or handle the recoil, or...
Flashback to Jesse and Walter failing to open a revolver
teal junco
Also a risk i have wondered about
if i made a light rp sl server
i may just attract trolls only
restive turret
lcz onyl?
restive turret
i may just attract trolls only
Every server has one
teal junco
lcz onyl?
Light rp as in light failrp rules and little to no departments
i just see that kind of stuff as breeding gatekeeping
restive turret
Department of head
restive turret
because jesus christ
Did you call me
teal junco
Never anything different
teal junco
Also portal in SL?
I wanted to port a game campaign to sl
restive turret
Can you make such a thing
teal junco
Portal would be hard because its physics dependent
sl doesnt have the greatest physics
and the player itself doesnt even have real physics
Half Life would be hard because it has NPCs but a lot easier i imagine
restive turret
Send letters to david
slate flume
How do I redirect incoming player connections
I don't know where to start 🥺
teal junco
all you need to do is make NPCs with voice chat support and combat and then youre basically mostly golden
teal junco
I don't know where to start 🥺
did you look at the plugin you were told about
slate flume
did you look at the plugin you were told about
What
teal junco
sorry for the dumb question
slate flume
I was told "look at the proxy one"
teal junco
but was it just unhelpful
teal junco
all you need to do is make NPCs with voice chat support and combat and then your...
but holy god, would NPCs be a huge deal
well, i dunno but i imagine it wouldnt be pleasant to make
teal junco
the voice lines would be simple enough
slate flume
They're dummies that shoot people
teal junco
They're dummies that shoot people
did you find a robust way to make them shoot
slate flume
did you find a robust way to make them shoot
You use dummy actions
teal junco
the only solutio i ever found was using dummy actions
which isnt reliable to always populate and is frighteningly similar to RA commands in code
teal junco
You use dummy actions
oh well
teal junco
it might be good enough tbh
slate flume
Never have any issues
teal junco
Never have any issues
youve never had an npc fail to populate actions
restive turret
XProxy
slate flume
youve never had an npc fail to populate actions
I had that but I found the cause for it
If you SetRole on the same frame as you spawn the dummy it breaks
cyan crown
Whos gonna make Portal turret
H.E.V suit please
teal junco
that makes life easier
restive turret
H.E.V suit please
Thats require to put those into player
slate flume
So I just
slate flume
Then
hearty shard
idk why
cyan crown
Thats require to put those into player
not like a full visual look it just adds some AHP and it regens the players health
restive turret
Than getting a cached action a million times
slate flume
I rather call the actual event with the dummy
The problem is I don't think you can force a player to shoot
Or ADS
Those are client-side actions
teal junco
The problem is I don't think you can force a player to shoot
yes you can
restive turret
You can lol
unique crane
You can only fake it to other players
teal junco
thats how dummies work
unique crane
But you cant make them see it 1st person
teal junco
but its just too hard for me to reverse engineer
slate flume
You can only fake it to other players
^
unique crane
if you do it on real players
teal junco
so i might just do dummy actions
restive turret
But you cant make them see it 1st person
Dummies doesn't need those tbh
You can decompile and see how and what the dummy calls
You can just call that too
restive turret
Oh, we talking about dummies not real players, right
slate flume
I have
restive turret
Me2
restive turret
Its an interface
Inside some DummyController
Or whatever
Its starting with D
A namespace
unique crane
Just see how the RA code does it
restive turret
That's what I said 😭
teal junco
You can decompile and see how and what the dummy calls
thats the thing
slate flume
The problem is the specific actions
restive turret
Like what
unique crane
The problem is the specific actions
Specific actions like
What
You have to give them gun for gun actions to unlock
slate flume
How do I figure out the code for the shoot action
slate flume
You have to give them gun for gun actions to unlock
I think you're missing the original topic of this conversation
unique crane
How do I figure out the code for the shoot action
sec
slate flume
The point is I call the dummy actions
Similar to the RA
@restive turret is suggesting I find how the dummy action I'm looking for actually works
And use that instead of looking through the dummy cache
I'm saying idk where that code is
restive turret
I saying, you can just completely ignore the Dummy actions, and call what the dummy actually would do, for example looking right 10 you can do is.
Fpc.Motor.VerticalPosition +=10; for example
slate flume
I saying, you can just completely ignore the Dummy actions, and call what the du...
Yes
I do that for positioning
I don't know how to do it for shooting
Or ADS
Or reloading
Or anything like that
teal junco
I saying, you can just completely ignore the Dummy actions, and call what the du...
for shooting and others its more complex
restive turret
You can go to the Namespace of where the DummyActionCollector are and find the interface for populating the action
slate flume
I use the motor to do positioning
restive turret
And search for what and ehere is jt using it
Since I am definitely NOT home to search those for you, you have to do it yourself
unique crane
Aha found it