plugins-dev-chat

[hearty shard]

Why not

[true cedar]

ruei needs to handle offsets

every time you do a linebreak it detects that and adds to the offset

[restive turret]

Science isn't about why, it's about why not

[icy knoll]

hmm

[true cedar]

but if the line height is animated

you have to add the animated value to the offset

i thought of a way to do it but it is not nearly as simple as regex

[icy knoll]

well, good luck then

i suspect this is gunna be very long...

[true cedar]

it could be idk

oh also fun fact

ruei v3 will have a system to automatically bypass the hint size limit >:3

im rlly proud of it

[icy knoll]

nice

well done

well

ig it wont bypass the mirror limit

[hearty shard]

it will

[icy knoll]

HUH

[hearty shard]

im spreading lies maybe

[icy knoll]

also what is ruei's default line spacing multiplier, if any?

[hearty shard]

But no the text limit is from the UDP limit

[hearty shard]

so if it can be bypassed its by sending multiple packets

Which i have a feeling it does

@true cedar correct me

[true cedar]

it will !!!

[true cedar]

default line height is 40.665 in ruei

[icy knoll]

px or ems?

[true cedar]

(i think the actual actual default line height is different)

pixels

[icy knoll]

wait no not line height

line spacing

[true cedar]

um

[icy knoll]

do you modify?

[true cedar]

huh

line spacing = line height

[icy knoll]

like do you set ur own line spacing

rly?

oh damn

im tryna do more math here in case font size changes

and i cant figure it out at all 😭

[true cedar]

basically

[hearty shard]

yeah im smart thanks

[true cedar]

i just break up the text into separate string hint parameters

[unique crane]

So the same workaround as I did for the text toy

[true cedar]

yea LOL

im not that creative

[unique crane]

I mean

You cant do anything else

literally

Its UDP size limit

You cant go around that any other way unless we add it base game

like chunks to append to each other

[hearty shard]

trolled

[true cedar]

whats the udp size limit

[hearty shard]

65k

or smth

[unique crane]

ushort - few mirror bytes

[hearty shard]

david ur a ushort

[true cedar]

oh so its just

[restive turret]

65535 - ~4

[hearty shard]

no

i dont agree

[restive turret]

Ushort.MaxValue is 65535

[hearty shard]

I dont agree

[unique crane]

181cm

[hearty shard]

im 187

[unique crane]

gg

[hearty shard]

!!!

[true cedar]

whats that in normal units

[restive turret]

No proof

[hearty shard]

6'1

and 5'1

[true cedar]

what the fuck

[unique crane]

These are normal units

silly american

[hearty shard]

jk david isnt that small

yet

[true cedar]

im 5'9

[unique crane]

Tf you mean yet XD

[restive turret]

Use Google to convert them

[hearty shard]

Chop chop

[true cedar]

im not a peasant

[hearty shard]

U r

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/farcry6-gif-23383353

[hearty shard]

david is 5'11 i believe

[true cedar]

says YOI

YOU

[hearty shard]

unless im off

[hearty shard]

Shhh

Im sharing your secret

anyway uh

im angry

how do i test SSSS with more people when i have no friends

So heart breaking

[restive turret]

🤣

[hearty shard]

ill get my gf to test it w me

probably

or slejm

wait i dont have a test server anymore do I

[restive turret]

??

[hearty shard]

💔

[restive turret]

Skill issue

[true cedar]

ill test it for you eve

[hearty shard]

u have friends?

[unique crane]

Should have not been mean to me

[restive turret]

Testing your patience

[true cedar]

JUST KIDDING!!!

[hearty shard]

ok but like

[true cedar]

JUNE TWENTY FIRST FOOLS!!

[hearty shard]

i cba to port forward

💔

[restive turret]

I have it

I can run a server from my pc

And many times tested with it

[worn gull]

Hi is it possible to change a role's name in spectator below the player name's?

[hearty shard]

fake sync their role

[worn gull]

Okay, thanks

[icy knoll]

@upper vapor implemented a queue for the plugin and everything, i think it's ready for a release, so ty man!

[upper vapor]

grape

you're wlecome

[plain gazelle]

Does anyone have an idea on figuring out if a Pickup is like, part of/inside of a locker, or a wall medbox, or loose items like the lcz pistol, hcz junk and stuff?

[true cedar]

what the fuck why does this exist https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Mathf.CorrelatedColorTemperatureToRGB.html

[plain gazelle]

Real cameras usually have Kelvin temperature settings, so maybe its for that? For anything sun related?

A smooth curve between warm and cold light

[viral rivet]

How can I execute a R.A. command from LabApi?

[celest thorn]

you deserve no friends

you are mean with everyone

[hearty shard]

I am not you

[hearty shard]

Why?

[celest thorn]

I have friends

[viral rivet]

i need to use the changescale command

[hearty shard]

why not just player.Scale

[viral rivet]

It doesn't appear to me and I don't understand which reference I'm missing

[hearty shard]

You can also check what the command does

But using the command isnt recommended unless ur doing something like uhh

Like config options

on commands to run at x time

[viral rivet]

ok thanks

[unique crane]

You need to use the newest dedicated server dll

labapi one

[hearty shard]

@viral rivet pls dont dm me for support

you also have the answer above ^

LabApi.dll

[worthy rune]

wouldnt nuget have the latest, also nuget includes the xml so you gets docs too

[unique crane]

Still not updated

[worthy rune]

ahh rip

[unique crane]

tide

[viral rivet]

o sorry

[worthy rune]

xD

[hearty shard]

you havent updated it!!

just make it auto update!!

[unique crane]

It needs to be signed by security team

[worthy rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274117803363930197/1376356340728856606/v24044gl0000d0p2s1fog65hjash59q0-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[hearty shard]

what

?!?!

[unique crane]

U need to sign the nuget package

otherwise bad things happen idk

[hearty shard]

you mean just using an api key or smth else

[random scaffold]

this bro killed cat

[worthy rune]

https://tenor.com/view/you-will-not-believe-where-it-says-gullible-gullible-you-will-not-believe-you-will-not-believe-where-it-says-cat-gif-13392069233236266200

[unique crane]

Just like you sign software

so it is trusted by microsoft

[hearty shard]

but

but

i dont do that

on nuget

[unique crane]

I dont knoooow

[hearty shard]

nuget has like

virus scans

super duper awesome

also my brain is fried

[unique crane]

thats what beryl said once they do that

[hearty shard]

wine + coffee = not nice

[hearty shard]

@marble cobalt pls explain

thanks

[unique crane]

and now with jesus being new team lead I guess they are working on that

[hearty shard]

Oh

Its jesus now

Didnt he quit

to do smth else

[unique crane]

What?

[worthy rune]

no

[hearty shard]

anyway hi david

And riptide

[worthy rune]

hi

[hearty shard]

what is lumi typing for 20 minutes for

[icy knoll]

is it possible to edit a SerializeField or is that client side?

i wanna edit a cooldown duration :c

[hearty shard]

depends

is it synced

serializefield is unity so not synced by default

[icy knoll]

how would I tell? network behaviour or?

[unique crane]

What countdown lumi

[hearty shard]

syncvar, rpc messages etc

[icy knoll]

skeleton strangle

[unique crane]

Like for ability?

[icy knoll]

yeah

[hearty shard]

i think you can make it longer by denying it

idk if you can make shorter

[unique crane]

Yeah you can only make it longer I guess

[icy knoll]

i wanna modify _onReleaseCooldown

i just dont know if it's possible

[unique crane]

There might be client-side check too

check the code

[icy knoll]

this.ClientCooldown.Trigger((double) this._onReleaseCooldown);

this is it

[unique crane]

Yep

[icy knoll]

during ClientProcessRpc

[unique crane]

no change then

[icy knoll]

is ClientProcessRpc called on the client or is it called on the server with the network reader being the client or?

[unique crane]

Its called on client

when its Client ProcessRpc

[icy knoll]

yeah

well

seems like i cant change the cooldown then 😭

[unique crane]

Nop

Sorry

[hearty shard]

well id assume its a client thing

Since its yk

Since its yk

Named like that

My internet so slow

[hexed girder]

But are all types of doors already available in LabApi?

Like

Scp049Gate

Because I can’t find it

[upper vapor]

me when

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/tree/master/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/Facility/Doors

you can check the door's name to distinguish between the same type of door

[upper vapor]

I kinda hate how autosync items are handled
Template methods amalgamated in the same class

[plain gazelle]

Are containers like lockers, medboxes and scp pedestals saved anywhere, or can i somehow get a list of all of them?/their positions?

[hearty shard]

Locker.List

Or smth

When LockerType and PedestalType

[lethal cradle]

After watching 17 hours of c# tutorials, I have finally mastered c# and can finally do a plugin

only took a million tears

[icy knoll]

you’ve got a long way to go my friend

i’m still learning and i’ve been doing this for a while

[unique crane]

Just watching tutorials wont really do much, you need to experience the things

But good luck :D

[lethal cradle]

I mean out of curiosity when I look at the stuff in #1274618202227216414 (code wise) I sort of understand it. I think I'm gonna take like a simple item and make it do something simple and figure it out myself. For example uhhh maybe make the medkit heal 10 hp instead of the usual to see if I can even FIND that

[unique crane]

I recommend starting with built in things such as sending broadcasts

hints

setting player's role, hp

etc etc

[lethal cradle]

oh that can do too

I genuinely have no idea where to start 💔

[unique crane]

Yea just start with sending player a broadcast

Make a plugin that sends player a broadcast with "hello -name-"

when you join

[icy knoll]

maybe also find some simple plugins and see if you can replicate the behaviour

[lethal cradle]

okay thank you yall

[viral rivet]

when i try to do:
player.Scale = new Vector3(0.3f, 0.3f, 0.3f);
The server crashes why?

[hearty shard]

when

[unique crane]

Please dont do it in RoleChanged event

[hearty shard]

you cant do it on role change event unless you delay it

yeah

[unique crane]

There is currently a bug that does this

Sorry

You can BUT

[hearty shard]

david crashing servers as usual

[unique crane]

add at least 2 frames delay

[unique crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805416872962818078/1382762297893589124/AlmirHotdogLover.gif

[unique crane]

YOU kept telling me about the scale property

so its your fault smh

[hearty shard]

you didnt test it properly

!!!

[noble vale]

Hey Guys, can someone help me? Its telling me _type isnt defined and because i am just trying to learn that stuff, i dont know what to do yet ( sry, my Visual studios is set to German )

( its like the example thing from git hub, connected with the other thingies etc. )

[unique crane]

You might need to publicize the assembly

[hearty shard]

are you using publicized assembly ?

[noble vale]

oh, how do i do that

[hearty shard]

<PackageReference Include="BepInEx.AssemblyPublicizer.MSBuild" Version="0.5.0-beta.1" PrivateAssets="all" />
<Reference Include="Assembly-CSharp" HintPath="$(SL_REFERENCES)\Assembly-CSharp.dll" Publicize="true" />

csproj file

tldr you add the bepinex publicizer

and then set assembly to publicize="true"

[noble vale]

ok, ill try

[noble vale]

alr, sry for the late response, i cant really find it, i know on Github theres many files at the example category, but i didnt add the Exiled.Example.csproj file because it just gave me some over 400 errors, so how can i add the csproj file to my Visual studio project without it giving my errors?

[hearty shard]

oh

if ur doing exiled

then go to exiled support

well

exiled coding chats

[noble vale]

theres an exiled support

oh damn

[hearty shard]

theres a discord

uhh

@mild ice can i send discord links i forgot

https://github.com/ExMod-Team/EXILED/blob/master/.github/README.md

@noble vale

[noble vale]

thx, sry for the Confusion

[mild ice]

They will be filtered

[hearty shard]

rude...

[restive turret]

Isn't exiled already has the acs publicized

[hearty shard]

if you download their references yes

but

you still need the references

even if ur in exiled proj

[celest thorn]

        private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider collider)
        {
            if (!collider.CompareTag("Player"))
                return;

        }

Does someone know why it doesn't work?

[restive turret]

I just do
collider.CompareTag("Player")

[celest thorn]

Yea but still if i do that

it doesn't trigger

like the code doesn't execute

even tho i just trigger it

and if i remove it, it works fine

[restive turret]

Works on my end

[celest thorn]

Making sure like this?

[unique crane]

collider.tranform.root.FompareTag("Player")

Maybe

[hearty shard]

Fompare

[celest thorn]

i could something smarter actually

if its default (so primitives for example)

return

[restive turret]

internal class EscapeTriggerComponent : MonoBehaviour
{
    public void OnTriggerEnter(Collider collider)
    {
        if (!collider.CompareTag("Player"))
            return;
}
}

[hearty shard]

me when i just use

Player.TryGet

[restive turret]

Tryget deez

[hearty shard]

i hate you

[restive turret]

[hearty shard]

ur racist to me

[restive turret]

What

[hearty shard]

i should blur the name tbh

quote goes hard though

[hearty shard]

im calling the police

[restive turret]

For what

[hearty shard]

everything

[restive turret]

Have fun with them ig

[hearty shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1368009337620135936/1386108054306557992/watermark.gif

ok i blurred

ok i didnt blur pfp

idc

@restive turret

YOU!

ur hurtful

[restive turret]

Nuh uh

[hearty shard]

u hurt me

[restive turret]

I would never

[celest thorn]

you hurt alot more people

[slate flume]

@grand flower if you figure out how to fuck with mapgen to check seeds can you help me out
I've got a bunch of shit I've gotta do the next few days but I wanna get an update out that'll allow me to work with that junk

[viral rivet]

Using Player.Scale if a player enters after it has been executed it sees it differently (As in the picture) than it would normally be, does anyone know how to fix it?

[hearty shard]

What r u doing

Map.Seed
Or Round.Seed idk

[slate flume]

This is what I tried

But it causes network-client desync

I'm guessing because of the .Generate call

[hearty shard]

Wtf r u doing

[slate flume]

I just want maps where the Red Room spawns

That's it

🤷🏼

[hearty shard]

what red room

and i forgot what atlas zone generator is

im not on pc rn so i cant really check it

[slate flume]

I just realized

I'm being dumb

It's supposed to be EntranceZoneGenerator

But it's still going to cause desync

[hearty shard]

huh?

[slate flume]

Atlas = Heavy

[hearty shard]

Wtf

Goofy ahh

[hearty shard]

It shouldnt

[slate flume]

I think?

Idk

[hearty shard]

it might be related to your .Generate(

[slate flume]

I'm a little lost

[hearty shard]

you are generating the map server side

[slate flume]

^

[hearty shard]

yeah

you cant do that unless you also delete it

which might cause issuee

[slate flume]

My goal:
Find seeds that generate redroom

This goal is complicated

And I'm looking after 4 damn toddlers this weekend because family is wonderful and amazing

So I don't have a lot of time to spend on this

[hearty shard]

Can you give me everything the zone generator has

cuz im a lil bit lost without any code lol

[slate flume]

Yeah I gotchu

What I know is

SeedSynchronizer is the key

The awake function is where the MapGenerating event is called

[hearty shard]

Btw uhhh

[slate flume]

You can change the seed before it goes into GenerateLevel

[hearty shard]

Yes but no

its all

[slate flume]

Which goes into GenerateFacility

Which calls zone generators

The AtlasZoneGenerator (which I believe is the initially derived type for other gens?)

That's the generate

It's got a bunch of other shit

[hearty shard]

Oh yeah

Hm

Idk if its really doable easily...

[slate flume]

Yeah

[hearty shard]

you could maybe create a replica in a different C# project

[slate flume]

I know it's likely possible in some way

[hearty shard]

Of the generator

And then generate seeds

[grand flower]

I just ended up falling back to other rooms if red rooms isn't generated

[slate flume]

Fair

[hearty shard]

hm?

what is bro doing

[slate flume]

I'm just really busy these next few days so I can't dedicate as much time as I'd like

I was hoping someone would know but if not that's cool

[grand flower]

If red rooms doesn't end up generated, I choose another room

[hearty shard]

yea but what for

[grand flower]

it was just for spawning players in

[hearty shard]

you got me curious

Oh

[grand flower]

spawn waves

[hearty shard]

lmao

Weird ass spawn waves spawning in entrance

[grand flower]

because SCPs can just camp gate A/B elevators

[hearty shard]

True

[grand flower]

especially on maps where they're next to each other

so as a nerf to that strat, normal spawn waves have 40% of players spawning in the facility's red rooms

and mini waves fully spawn there

[hearty shard]

Interesting

[grand flower]

It helps a lot

[slate flume]

My hope is to check seeds to see if 1. Red Room Spawns and 2. Gates are next to each other

[grand flower]

when the spawn wave isn't stupid and actually shoots the damn SCP

[slate flume]

(this rarely happens)

[grand flower]

yup

i can't fix skill issues though so w/e

[grand flower]

our issue is that our Mayhem server has buffs to SCPs, like 173's tantrum puddles exploding on contact with a player

[slate flume]

Dude I had a group of me and two other D-Class who actually knew what we were doing and we killed 173 single-handedly

[grand flower]

so even if the gates aren't next to each other, 173 can trap one/both and just patrol

in our case 173 has like

9000+ hp on a full server

[slate flume]

LMAO

Peak

[grand flower]

Because it's the sole SCP

had to buff a ton of SCPs because they aren't built to be lone SCPs

[slate flume]

Cyn what food should I get, I'm ordering Chinese

[grand flower]

idk lol

[slate flume]

I always wanted to try making 106 silent

[grand flower]

can't

you can give him silent walk

[slate flume]

Yeah

But his breathing

[grand flower]

but he'll still be noisy and asthmatic

[slate flume]

Fucking loud ass

It's crazy that he's supposed to be an ambusher and yet he's slow, asthmatic, and loud as shit

And the people he "kills" have a 1/4 shot at surviving

3114 is like a better 106 just without the teleportation lmao

[hearty shard]

Depends on server config

[slate flume]

True, true

[hearty shard]

[grand flower]

I reworked him for our Mayhem server, now players have an 80% chance of surviving pocket

but in exchange he gets buffed with every traumatized player

[hearty shard]

Gah

[grand flower]

his teleport ability slows down everyone within 10 meters for 3 seconds, while giving him a boost for every player in that range

actually happy to see players make use of it to ambush players

[slate flume]

Peak

I just hope I can figure out mapgen cause otherwise I'll be sad

[grand flower]

You'd need to just port the mapgen 1:1 to a standalone library

but like

any random call that would occur

needs to occur

otherwise your mapgen stuff won't match the game

[hearty shard]

someone did this for a proj in ts iirc

Jesus maybe idk

it died but yk

[slate flume]

This is what I hate

[slate flume]

I've never done something like this before

Might have to ask for a bit of help/guidance

I'm like a mid-level programmer, I can get by, but I need help with the advanced shit

[hearty shard]

me too

although my brains fried too

[slate flume]

Yeah idk I'm hoping I can cook something up but man

It's insane

I wish there was more built-in stuff to help with this shit

What if I just restart the server if I get a bad map

Lmao

[grand flower]

Or NW could just

fix it

[slate flume]

I think something like these niche mapgen things are low-priority for them lol

I'm gonna pick up some food and ponder it on my drive

Brb

[buoyant oyster]

why did they make the map gen happen both client side and server side... why sync the seed and not the map itself...

[true cedar]

because its really complicated to sync an entire map lol?

thats my guess

its just a waste of time for both the client and server to try and sync it

[hearty shard]

A whole lotta data...

yeah

The game only needs a seed

[true cedar]

esp when mirror makes it easy enough to have the same mapgen code

[hearty shard]

Everything will generate properly with it

[hearty shard]

Yes!!!

it saves a ton of networking over like telling the player like 8 or smth bytes of positioning per room + all the clutter + door types

if everything was sent by server thatd be a lot

Imagine if sl had all its textured sent by server

[buoyant oyster]

im aware that its less data to send but at the same time it would be really nice to actually be able to have custom map generation

[hearty shard]

i dont really agree with making every part of map generation server sided

mostly due to the networking, and the fact its a lot easier to do with it being just a seed

[grand flower]

It's good for custom maps, which NW doesn't let you do anyway

So in their case seed was enough

[hearty shard]

you can just set -1 seed

[grand flower]

Limiting for modders? yeah, but not a bad idea

[hearty shard]

make it all out of primitives

[buoyant oyster]

i hope youre not unironically suggesting this

[hearty shard]

you can

itll be laggy

[grand flower]

At that point might as well make your own game

[hearty shard]

but yk

[grand flower]

[hearty shard]

Nooo

That ruins the fun

[buoyant oyster]

but it wouldnt be as popular as sl

[grand flower]

Says who

[hearty shard]

just make it more popular

eZ

[grand flower]

Before SL there was Breach on Garry's Mod

[buoyant oyster]

true...

[grand flower]

When SL came out, peeps moved from Breach to it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty shard]

and you dont rly need to compete with sl

eh ig technically

but yk

[grand flower]

NW shoots itself in the foot enough that you wouldn't need to if you play your cards right

[hearty shard]

cyn have you considering arson

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-teamfortress2-teamfortress2pyro-fire-gif-13656490

no

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/niko-oneshot-spazm-pancake-goober-gif-4207454113862701316

[buoyant oyster]

i started in 14.0 and ive already witnessed this twice 😭

[hearty shard]

what has bro seen

[grand flower]

only twice is surprising

[hearty shard]

i dont believe 14.0 or 14.1 has had like major issues

am i schizo

[grand flower]

Just the way things are in SL

not necessarily major issues, but how things work

[buoyant oyster]

14.1 spawn wave update and a complete lack of poll relating to the changes

[grand flower]

and NW itself

[hearty shard]

hmmm

i liked it

oh well

Oh 14.1

The mini wave

Change

Where if the enemies do better than your team they can get wave

Cuz ur team was bad...

Or unlucky idk

[buoyant oyster]

its frustrating for the scp team

[hearty shard]

that the enemies dont cooperate?

and are now enemies of each other too

wat

am i missing something

[buoyant oyster]

i dont wanna get into it

i have a lot of thoughts on that subject

[hearty shard]

ok...

[buoyant oyster]

i play on mostly 32 player servers n 14.1 doesnt feel balanced there idk

25 is fine

[hearty shard]

game is balanced for 24

modtly

Mostly

or maybe it was 28

[buoyant oyster]

it felt great for 32 and 25 in 14.0, now its just 25

[hearty shard]

i play like 2-10 players and like 40

idk

seems fine for me

also you said 2 fuck ups

Spawnwave is 1

Goggles?

[buoyant oyster]

its that they didnt poll the spawn wave changes at all before pushing it live but goggles too

i wish they just did one nerf or the other both nerfs like felt major overkill

[slate flume]

What was wrong with old goggles?

They feel kind of pointless now

In SL, TTK is low, and things generally move fast
Having goggles update intermittently now makes them so not viable

[grand flower]

Gives you a warning about people around at least

Old goggles were just free ESP

[slate flume]

Yeah that was kind of the point

[hearty shard]

yes....

but

It was ESP

😭

thats not fire

[slate flume]

I see your point but also like

There's gotta be a better way to balance it

The way they are now is just

[hearty shard]

i dont like new goggles
but i REALLY dont like the old goggles being constant wall hacks

[slate flume]

Kind of bad

[hearty shard]

Yes but they were too good before

[slate flume]

I thought old goggles were fine because yeah they were powerful but also it's not like everyone in a lobby is getting them
I just generally think they could've balanced them better

[hearty shard]

I dont agree on current state

But

Its better than walls

Kind aish

can be improved

hopefully soon

[slate flume]

I think that's a fair viewpoint I just disagree that it being useless is better than it being extremely useful

At least it was a cool unique item you WANTED to use

Now I never see a single soul use them

Defeats the whole point of having a new item

[hearty shard]

its kinda like how good 127 was during beta

just goggles got a terrific nerf

[slate flume]

At least we both agree goggles need a rework lol

[hearty shard]

yes

[slate flume]

I do talk about how I hate balancing in this game a lot but I'm not a game designer or anything

[hearty shard]

i dont disagree on that

i just hated them during beta

I mean yes

Fun to have

Not fun against

[slate flume]

I may not know how to fix it but I know it's a problem

[hearty shard]

Since they literally get cheats

Ita like old siege

There was OP that gave every enemy full view of you if you move an inch

iirc that includes laying down or just turning ur camera

[hearty shard]

yes

[slate flume]

Like what if it functioned more like 939's vision

People don't complain about 939 having wallhacks lol

[hearty shard]

Cuz ur blind

You cant see

You go off sound

Idk

It has balancing

Also dog doesnt have an Ak47 to shove into my throat

Well

Not in vanilla

[slate flume]

Exactly

[hearty shard]

goggles should make you blind

completely

no more

[slate flume]

That would be interesting

Not sure how practical it would be though if you can't even walk through doors lol

What if you could only see the facility in a small radius around you

Sort of like intense fog

Or maybe like extremely blurry vision at range

With the exception of the orbs

[hearty shard]

yea but hm

ig you canr see the environment

so items and medkits

[slate flume]

It would allow you to still navigate the facility and see things in a short area around you

[hearty shard]

but you still know where everyone is

[slate flume]

So you could find items and shit

But you wouldn't be able to know if any enemy is behind cover or shit like that

Because outside of your "bubble" you're blind

I feel like that's very fair but still makes it viable

Especially if you're working with someone else

You avoid the problem of it being intermittent while also making it so you can't just solo everyone because you have no idea if they're behind cover or not

But you're also self-sufficient enough to be able to get around the facility

[hearty shard]

my foot is like asleep

lmao

[slate flume]

Lmao good to know

[slate flume]

Idk this is just an idea

[hearty shard]

im tired im saying random stuff

[slate flume]

I'm cool with anything so long as it fixes shit

[slate flume]

Real

I actually made a custom item that blinds and deafens you for 10 seconds, then makes you normal for 10 seconds, but you're given 900 max HP lmao

It's fun to use and it's pretty balanced because when you're blind and deaf you can't really do shit

[pine parcel]

how do I detect that a player is dummy and not a human player?

(side note, if there are any good plugins that handle dummies I would love a pointer)

[slate flume]

ev.Player.IsDummy

Or some shit like that

Yeah

👍🏼

[pine parcel]

thanks! did you find that in some docs, or in your own code?

[slate flume]

I just look at the wrapper

[pine parcel]

oh got it

[slate flume]

Any self-respecting IDE has auto-complete

So just type in what you're looking for

And it'll show you options

Let's say I'm looking to add an item to a player

Bang

Or you can look at the class if you need specifics

Shows you everything

[pine parcel]

got it, I'm not used to looking through a library as much. Need to develop that skill, thanks!

[slate flume]

Of course!

Happy to help

[teal junco]

demo system working now !

[grand flower]

good job

was gonna start writing my own heh

I'm pretty sure you can't record audio though

NW tends to frown at stuff like that

[teal junco]

I know it breaks VSR

oh i forgot to add a check :P

sadge

[teal junco]

the Voice chat is really fucked up i literally have no idea how to fix it

like you can hear it right 😭

[grand flower]

Yeah

You're probably parsing it wrong

Playing it too fast idk

[teal junco]

Ohhh maybe the parsing/timing is off

i can see that being a possibility

most likely timing, the parsing is literally directly copying the data from the VoiceMessage

Also cyn, thank you for all that advice a few weeks or months back, it really really helped me along on this project

[grand flower]

My pleasure

[pine parcel]

is there a way to hot reload plugins so I don't need to keep relaunching my server each time I make a change?

[celest thorn]

its not reccomended

but you can

[pine parcel]

do you have the forbidden knowledge?

[celest thorn]

oh wait

you cannot

[pine parcel]

lol!

[celest thorn]

on LabAPI you cannot

[pine parcel]

ah well, thanks for replying!

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Loader/PluginLoader.cs

you could tru

with using code from here

and understanding it

[upper vapor]

is this ai 😭

[celest thorn]

Hiiiii

[upper vapor]

where are you doing thsi?

[upper vapor]

haiiiii

what if we had actual hot reload

[celest thorn]

VSR killer 9000

[celest thorn]

that would be cool

but reload on exiled

is used by none

and its even not reccomended

[pine parcel]

I guess I should really be asking, how do you guys see if your stuff is working if you aren't hot reloading? (Maybe this is a bad habit coming from REPL languages)

[upper vapor]

sr

every time

[celest thorn]

sr

[pine parcel]

that is brutal

[celest thorn]

i have 1.5k

and i can say most of them on loading screen

[upper vapor]

i have 3.2k hours in this game
at least 100 of them is just watiing for the restart

[celest thorn]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

fr

[upper vapor]

i probably said a low number though for waiting xd

[celest thorn]

menu, preload

like

[upper vapor]

i'm not booting from a HDD 😭

[celest thorn]

i have an nvme

and still i do the preload

but those of gen 4

[upper vapor]

wdym by preload

[celest thorn]

there a menu screen called preload

[pine parcel]

I've been trying to make NPCs so far, and getting them to even walk around and open doors has been a nightmare. I've given up on raytrace pathfinding, and I'm trying to use room door queries

[celest thorn]

before newmenuremastered

[upper vapor]

the verifying thingy?

[celest thorn]

yea

[upper vapor]

navmesh

[pine parcel]

I'm sorry what

[upper vapor]

unity has a navmesh for pathfinding

but you'll need to construct the meshes

[celest thorn]

if you are a beginner leave that territory trust me

[upper vapor]

-# pain

[celest thorn]

SL IS NOT

BUILT for AI

[upper vapor]

it's a game engine

it's built for anything

[celest thorn]

I would argue yes

but most of the features

if we had access to the best thing

client

Oh my god goku scp

[pine parcel]

I'm a beginner in csharp, but years in python. I am willing to be a masochist for this

[upper vapor]

😭

[celest thorn]

trust me you aren't ready for this, you need to do everything blindfolded

[upper vapor]

moving to OOP from POOP is not a good experience

[celest thorn]

[pine parcel]

lmao

[celest thorn]

and yea python is very easy compared to c#

[pine parcel]

it's not been too bad, just need to be a bit more strict with some things (though that could be the beginner mindset)

for reference I have built windows services and applications in csharp, I just don't have the years in it

[celest thorn]

btw im still figuring out why my ai system shit itself inside heavy

and i cannot find an answer

[upper vapor]

because all the freaking geometry

[celest thorn]

Yea i know that

but fixing it might be impossible

[upper vapor]

have you made custom simplified meshes for the rooms?

[celest thorn]

no???

i just use navmesh

and parse them through

a system

[upper vapor]

yeah taht's uh

[teal junco]

I initially interpreted this as you accusing me of writing code with AI

[upper vapor]

please tell me it's not winfowrms

[teal junco]

No it's a playback of actions I did in the past

[upper vapor]

lol mb

[teal junco]

https://github.com/icedchai/Demo-System

[upper vapor]

ohhhh

[celest thorn]

so yea wtf do you mean you can do that with navmesh?

[upper vapor]

well

go in blender and make a simpler version of the room's geometry

then get that to load in the plugin somehow

[celest thorn]

lets ping the entire nw team

and ask that

[pine parcel]

I've used WinForms, but more recent projects were with WinUI

[upper vapor]

tf is winui 😭

[upper vapor]

you know you can just...
reader.ReadBytes or something

[pine parcel]

bigger, better, bloatier, (b)less documentation than ever before™

[upper vapor]

interesting

[pine parcel]

basically just a modernized rewrite that win10+ stuff uses

[teal junco]

i did have that, i removed it for some reason

[upper vapor]

i've only worked with wpf and avalonia, avalonia is so much better than the former one

native wpf buttons look horrible

[teal junco]

but sometimes I prefer inefficient ways than a way i dont 100% understand in something im not familiar with

[upper vapor]

kek

btw, what are you doing to synchronize time?

i don't see a timestamp marker or somethng like that

[teal junco]

Coroutine that after doing yield return Timing.WaitForOneFrame loads a EndOfFrameSnapshot onto the queue

[upper vapor]

ohh

shouldn't you do Timing.WaitForEndOfFrame?

something like that

or run the coroutine in lateupdate

[teal junco]

so the Reader will just continuously read snapshots until it comes onto a EndOfFrameSnapshot and then it waits one frame

[teal junco]

oh shit i havent thought about that

[upper vapor]

you could save 4 bytes here by writing the DataLen from the voicemessage and when reconstructing, just use that length

DataLength = Data.Length

that'll break existing snapshots though

please tell me you have a version property at the beginning of your file

no need for compat, just make it so you can't break the system with older snapshots

[teal junco]

I was planning on adding that later

but honestly i probably would have forgotten

[upper vapor]

[grand flower]

Just remember to save the map seed too

If you dont already

[teal junco]

yeah i was gonna do that

ive been testing on a single seed server but yeah

[upper vapor]

but then you forgot

[teal junco]

I just didnt want to have to start a new round to read a demo

[upper vapor]

[teal junco]

I logged (DataLength == Data.Length) and it returned false

so just to be safe I made them separate

[upper vapor]

i know

hence you only write DataLength amount of data

the rest are zeroes

almost every time in audio processing, you must return the amount of bytes/floats processed
so you have a buffer, and you can put data in that buffer, but it might not be filled up entirely

the rest of the data may also be left over from a different operation

[celest thorn]

yo i have something to ask

can someone give me a number from 1-8

[upper vapor]

you're studying, aren't you

[celest thorn]

yes...

[upper vapor]

uh

2

[celest thorn]

in 3 days i have the exam

ok

google random number, isn't really random

like it prefers 7,8,9,1

[upper vapor]

😭

[celest thorn]

So don't use google random numbers

[upper vapor]

you should've used wheel of names
and removed the one that you've done

[celest thorn]

Thats actually smart

[upper vapor]

[teal junco]

but basically, i should just use Data.Length?

[upper vapor]

okay so

you have DataLen in the voice message

write that

[upper vapor]

and when reading, that'll be the DataLength and also the length of the buffer

[upper vapor]

"la non violenza"

[covert flame]

Any way to do this funciton but on an offline player (userId)? ReferenceHub.serverRoles.SetGroup(value);

[teal junco]

okay i think i see

[upper vapor]

you'd have to modify the RA config

-# not recommended

[covert flame]

Well if it's the only way then I'm gonna have to do it lol

[upper vapor]

what if

hold on

does it have to persistent?

[covert flame]

wdym by that

[upper vapor]

so the group stays on the player forever

or until you remove it

[covert flame]

Yeah, I want a way to put it on the player (until I remove it)

[upper vapor]

what's your exact use case if i may ask

it might be better to write these "custom" groups to a separate file
then, when a player joins, check if they're in that file and grant the group

[covert flame]

Well yeah that was the other way I was gonna go

I think I'll just do that actually

Yeah imma just do that

[celest thorn]

Womens in literature
Time and memory
Working conditions
War, peace and non violence,
Relativism,
Progress and mass media
Human Rights

[upper vapor]

womans

[celest thorn]

i just saw it

[upper vapor]

go study lol

[celest thorn]

im writing while talking lol

[slate flume]

random.org my 🐐

[frail pilot]

Why is this null?

😭

[unique crane]

What exactly is null?

Is it the 330 room or the interopobject?

[frail pilot]

A pot with 330 installed

[grand flower]

Why not just block usage of 330 via events

[frail pilot]

You are right! Why didn't I think of that

[royal mica]

Also if its null, then already despawned

Also isn't the bowl spawned when the door is opened, like all other SCP items?

or am I

[upper vapor]

that's not an SCP item

[royal mica]

cabinets and SCP pedestals spawn only when door is opened as well

(but yeah not an SCP item)

[upper vapor]

me when structurepositionsync.start

[royal mica]

Who needs map generator function calls

        public override void OnServerRoundStarting(RoundStartingEventArgs ev) {
            base.OnServerRoundStarting(ev);
            foreach (var door in Door.List) {
                door.IsOpened = true;
                Timing.CallDelayed(0.1f, () => door.IsOpened = false);
            }
        }

[upper vapor]

bruh

what

are you just trolling d-class

[royal mica]

nah, I just quickly cooked this up to pre-generate all cabinets and items

[upper vapor]

OHHHHH

that's actually smart

what if you don't have the delay

[royal mica]

then nothing happens cause single frame

(I suppose)

[upper vapor]

base.OnServerRoundStarting(ev);

moment

[royal mica]

I told you I cooked this up for a quick joke

[upper vapor]

right

[royal mica]

literally went override roundstarting <tab>

[upper vapor]

okay

i didn't think of that

[icy knoll]

hey ax, got a slight issue with the text chat plugin :3

the text rotates with the player, should i just set toy.Rotation to 0,0,0 during Update ?

[upper vapor]

wha

[icy knoll]

you know the plugin i made

the text chat above head

[upper vapor]

you need to subtract the player's rotation

the y axis

[icy knoll]

from the toy's rotation?

[royal mica]

If the Transformation parent is the player's Transformation, then doN't update the rotation

[upper vapor]

yes

[royal mica]

cause it'll follow the player's rotation

[upper vapor]

they want the text to face the observer

[royal mica]

Oh

that is even easier

[icy knoll]

hmm

[upper vapor]

you can't do quaternion subtraction

[icy knoll]

yeah

[upper vapor]

so you need the euler angles

[icy knoll]

i just found that out

[royal mica]

var direction = (_textToy.Position - player.Camera.transform.position).normalized;
_textToy.Rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(direction);
_textToy.Position = ragdoll.CenterPoint.position + new Vector3(0, 0.5f);

this'll look directly at the observer

[upper vapor]

not good enough

[icy knoll]

that's not what im asking for...

[royal mica]

huh

[upper vapor]

every other player

[royal mica]

that is literally doing that?

[icy knoll]

so what do I do exactly im confused now 😭

[upper vapor]

has different rotation

[royal mica]

For that you need to sync separatly for every player the rotation no?

[upper vapor]

yes

they just need a correct rotation when it's parented

so

get the result's euler angles, subtract the player's euler angles

then Quaternion.Euler

Quaternion.LookRotation().eulerAngles - player.GameObject.Transform.eulerAngles

i hate how player doesn'zt have a transform proeprty

[royal mica]

I assume cause they have 2 transforms: Body and Camera

[icy knoll]

like this?

[upper vapor]

you need fake sync vars

but yea

also no

[icy knoll]

well we already have the fake sync var

[upper vapor]

cuz Player::Rotation also accounts for camera (up/down)

[icy knoll]

the only issue is that the text rotates with the player also, but readjusts to the player

so you can notice the text move the tiniest bit when the player is moving

[upper vapor]

do this when sending the fake sync

you can either unparent the toy and move it to the correct position

or do this calculation

[icy knoll]

i use _transform.localRotation for the fake sync var

so that's correct yes?

[upper vapor]

but then it should work

the issue is the delay

higher ping -> more flickering

[icy knoll]

yeah, which is because of the player turning and stuff

ig if it's not solvable we have to live with it

[upper vapor]

you can do what Sqbika said

don't parent the toy and set the positionyourself

[icy knoll]

but that will then cause the toy to fall behind, no?

[upper vapor]

then you'll have to make sure the toy is removed when the player leaves

yea

[icy knoll]

yeah then id rather have it like it currently is then lol

[upper vapor]

little bit of rotation desync is probably better than position desync

[icy knoll]

yeah

[upper vapor]

Server.Transform.position = observer.Router.transform.position

[icy knoll]

huh 😭

[upper vapor]

just put the host at the observer's position

0ms ping

[icy knoll]

ah yes hold on lemme just spawn multiple hosts

[upper vapor]

load balancing

@grand flower imagine a load balancer on steroids for SL
node 1 does 1/3 of computations, another the 2nd 1/3, and the last the rest

round robin + relative pos caching + load balancing

[grand flower]

That would start affecting gameplay too much

Having to sync stuff like that together is hell and generally not worth it for a game like SL

Or well, any game really. I don't think any game does something like that