plugins-dev-chat

[grand flower]

or just install the publicizer to your project like Axwabo sent

[upper vapor]

I'll publish some project templates some day

With the option to include the publicizer

[icy knoll]

genuinely about to crash out why do labapi perms not work

[grand flower]

????

I'd love to know what in that list consists of that bug but okay

[upper vapor]

What does your permissions file look like

[icy knoll]

i fixed it now, default perms werent working so i just gave the perms to the "owner" group instead for now

as it is only a test

[celest thorn]

WAIT Its not client side?

You can patch that?

i love that

[grand flower]

Yeah I patched it

But hey, it's an issue not to report don't worry

[icy knoll]

also, does anyone have issues making server specific dropdown settings? secretapi is having issues and im unsure if it's specific to SecretAPI or not...

[celest thorn]

Wait secretapi has a wrapper for SSSS?

nameless cooked so much?

[hearty shard]

yes ?

[grand flower]

Works for us

[icy knoll]

yes and it's peak

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[hearty shard]

was the literal first thing added

iirc

[celest thorn]

nameless i was searching

[icy knoll]

@hearty shard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[celest thorn]

a wrapper

for it

let me check it out

[grand flower]

We don't use SecretAPI though

[icy knoll]

i guessed that

just

ugh

[celest thorn]

[icy knoll]

this is super annoying now

[grand flower]

Just made our own wrapper around SSSS

[hearty shard]

i thought all were tested

[celest thorn]

Wait

can i ask you something nameless?

[hearty shard]

wat

[celest thorn]

OH

so i understood how it works

its an abstract

that registers

Nameless you are smart

[hearty shard]

yea

[celest thorn]

probably going to switch to this

more clean

love it

[icy knoll]

only issue is

dropdown settings are crashing out

[hearty shard]

the only unclean part is the duplication way

[celest thorn]

Sad

[icy knoll]

and i cant figure it out for the life of me

[hearty shard]

U issue!!

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[hearty shard]

ill replicate it in like

5 hours

[icy knoll]

TRY IT IN 14.1.1

[hearty shard]

when im home

[icy knoll]

AND v1.1.0

like

dude

[hearty shard]

Ai aint home

I*

[icy knoll]

genuinely it's so annoying now 😭

why did v1.0.0 work fine

[hearty shard]

dw....

did it

[icy knoll]

how did this even break

[icy knoll]

yeah

[hearty shard]

i mean i think it did

[celest thorn]

Honestly i wanna give you a kiss other SSSS implementation are junky

[hearty shard]

Get away

[grand flower]

If anyone has a bug where armor/wearables disappear on role change/on player escape, just patch WearableSync.OnServerRoleSet and recompute the wearable state yourself.

If the player has active 1344, add WearableElements.Scp1344Goggles to the flags, if they have armor, add WearableElements.Armor, and then call hub.OverrideWearables(newFlags)

And NW, next time you close an issue for "being in the issue not to report list", please spend the 3 seconds it takes to copy/paste the element in that list that matches the issue. What's the point of helping you guys with bugs if you're just gonna treat it that way? Thanks.

[celest thorn]

[hearty shard]

Police WILL be called

[icy knoll]

me when nothing has been changed between 1.1.0 and 1.0.0 to break this shit

[hearty shard]

lolol

[grand flower]

actually, unsure if we use dropdowns

might've been mistaken

[celest thorn]

I abuse of dropdown

[grand flower]

lemme check

[celest thorn]

so if its broken

i might need to fix it myself

and make a pr

[hearty shard]

My phone is gonna explode

[celest thorn]

I have a question tho

how do you get settings?

[hearty shard]

wat

anyway i gtg sooo

ask lumi she uses it

[celest thorn]

I have a dropdown and i want to get those settings outside for example when you click a button

how do you do that

[icy knoll]

CustomSetting.GetPlayerSetting<YourCustomSetting>(SettingId, Player)?.Options

[celest thorn]

Oh my god this is junky asf

[icy knoll]

or you can just do GetSetting?

yeah

you can do CustomSetting.Get<YourSettingClass>(id)

if non-player specific

[celest thorn]

i need obv to be always player specific

[grand flower]

@icy knoll works fine on our side so defo not labapi

[icy knoll]

crashing out rn

[celest thorn]

Can you show it?

any error?

[icy knoll]

it's coming from a patch

[celest thorn]

even better

i love patches

[celest thorn]

especially transpilers

[icy knoll]

that specific patch is a postfix

there is the error

if you want to have a gander

[icy knoll]

i know

guess what

that's the line that uses SelectedOption

[celest thorn]

it could be null

[icy knoll]

something inside of selected option is null

[celest thorn]

possible?

[celest thorn]

probably still didn't sync

[icy knoll]

ive used the base game method of getting the selected option

[celest thorn]

it happened to me that sometimes its null

[icy knoll]

that also throws an NRE

so I think it goes even further down the line

smth very far down is null

[celest thorn]

can you show this setting?

like what is this dropdown?

[icy knoll]

it worked with secretapi v1.0.0 and scpsl v14.1.0

but as soon as i bumped both versions

crash

i think smth base game broke that secretapi relies on

[celest thorn]

nothing changed

on dropdowns

especially

i can tell you that because on my server they work fine

and i abuse them quite alot

[icy knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

im just stuck here

my plugin is broken because of this shit 😭

[celest thorn]

Ok my best guess

get_SyncSelectionText() is throwing the error

because is null

add a null check

they CAN be null

[icy knoll]

guess what

already did that

[celest thorn]

when the player is initializing

[icy knoll]

but

still NRE

it goes further down

[celest thorn]

idk how to help you lol

because i don't have the issue and its something you probably do

[icy knoll]

make a dropdown with secretapi

and test

if it works im gunna cry 😭

[celest thorn]

i cannot rn

like im studying for my big exam

coming up

so

[icy knoll]

fair enough

gotta wait for nameless then blegh

[celest thorn]

i need to restudy pratically 5 years of stuff

and honestly im applying some secret technique to just not study everything lol

i have 1h 30m of me talking max and i can apply some secret tricks to actually talk less and not bore 7 people

[grand flower]

@unique crane random ping but are you able to tell me why this issue was closed? https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/1495

[celest thorn]

deleted user

didn't like it

[grand flower]

I just wanna know if reporting new issues is gonna be worth it

Who knows, could've been a mistake

[unique crane]

Let me ask crimson

[icy knoll]

okie so i downgraded to secretapi v1.0.0, it's a base game issue 😭

[unique crane]

?

[icy knoll]

secretapi ssss dropdowns are crashing out

[unique crane]

Hm?

[icy knoll]

smth in the base game is null making it so whenever you access the selected value, an NRE throws

[worthy rune]

i just tested dropdowns and they are working

[restive turret]

well checked the do not report stuff and not matches with this one

[celest thorn]

just admit it skill issue

[icy knoll]

in secretapi, they are sadly not and im tryna figure out why

[icy knoll]

it's a secretapi issue, not me 😭

[celest thorn]

?

[upper vapor]

NRE

[celest thorn]

Hiiii :3

[upper vapor]

Eve how about you create a method to get the original setting and call that method in the patch

[upper vapor]

Hai

I'm reading

This chat

Brain overload

[celest thorn]

im trying not to

because my brain is reading stuff that i find so stupid

and hard

[lucid canyon]

just.. i like removed hint rate limit

[celest thorn]

Its already removed

[icy knoll]

@hearty shard 🙏

[celest thorn]

Nameless's skill issue?

[icy knoll]

ye

[celest thorn]

see

im not going to switch

my abuse of dropdowns

will never end

because people are stupid

and i found out by QA they find easier to understand dropdown than double button

for some reason

so yea

[upper vapor]

Should've dropped out
Give your soul to SL

[celest thorn]

Honestly im going to pass the exam

even if i just stay silent

im not joking

for how much extra school stuff i did and credits i have to spend

but i cannot recieve the bonus because my best friend has higher grades than mine

;(

so most likely he will recieve it

[upper vapor]

Ouch

Not studying is peak though

[celest thorn]

its just 10 points tho

i have around 50

and he has around 60 thanks to that

so we are pratically same

[icy knoll]

is spinning the barrel of a revolver client side?

[unique crane]

Nop you still send request to the server and server responds back

Then it starts

So you can just RevolverRouletteModule::SendRpc()

which will spin it

for the client

[icy knoll]

I am running RevolverRolutetteModule::ServerRandomize() and it aint spinning

[icy knoll]

oh

[unique crane]

Thats code thats run with the animation

to actually randomize the chambers

[icy knoll]

do i need args with SendRpc or does it do everyone automatically?

[unique crane]

No args

[icy knoll]

nice

IsBusy doesn't work properly :c

it isn't true through the duration of the animation

[unique crane]

@grand flower But SL default channel is Reliable Ordered

So if RoleChange msg drops, it will wait until it gets resent and then apply the scale?

[hearty shard]

            __result = CustomSetting.Get(__instance.GetType(), __instance.SettingId)?.Base ?? null!;

Already done xd

thats required for it to even work at all

[worthy rune]

the reason it was probably unreliable at 0.1 delay is that it could be 1 or 2 frames between sending the message, and for the scale message to work it requires a 2 frame delay

[unique crane]

Well fixing the null ref within the role changing will fix most of the issues

[hearty shard]

Literally is CustomSetting.Get(Type, int)

already exists

[worthy rune]

The real solution is ofc

Timing.CallDelayed(0.0f, ()=>
{
    Timing.CallDelayed(0.0f, ()=>
    {
        //Your code here.
    });
});

[icy knoll]

true

[grand flower]

Interesting, kinda assumed based on Mirror's definition of channels

That does solve the ordering issue, however the fake role sync stuff remains

Additionally, sync vars really are meant to be used for stuff like this

RPCs are useful but if you're using them for stateful stuff, it gets messy

[unique crane]

Well obviously mirror was not meant to use with faking syncs...

[hearty shard]

not rly sure what u want

I obsoleted stuff

I added a few setting stuff

And a new constructor for keybind setting

Nothing is deleted

So idk why it works on one and not the other

[unique crane]

• the scale reset on role change is intended behavior

[grand flower]

I guess not, but it's a fact that it is used by a lot of plugins to hide players/dummies from others since we don't have those capabilities

[unique crane]

You have to do that even without the fake sync

[unique crane]

I understand

I would like to look into hiding players in proper way

[icy knoll]

dropdown settings are broken lol, that's as much as i know

everything else works fine

[grand flower]

iirc we didn't have that issue prior to 14.1.1, at the very least we could change the local scale directly and it wouldn't be overridden on role change

[icy knoll]

1.0.0 doesnt work either

tested that too

[hearty shard]

oh

[icy knoll]

only broken in 14.1.1

[grand flower]

The new scale stuff does make that harder

[icy knoll]

14.1.0 works fine

[hearty shard]

then idk what nw changed

@unique crane can u givr full changelog for settings from 14.1 to 14.1.1

SSSS

[unique crane]

Hmmm ok

[grand flower]

(my point still stands though, this should really still be a SyncVar, even if you want it to reset on role change, it could be done with it)

Just good to know about the default channel, ty

[icy wraith]

What bool allows spectator to use keybinds ? I don't find it.

[unique crane]

nvm

[unique crane]

Make sure you update your assemblies

[grand flower]

There's lots in SL that's done with RPCs for syncing states, that's my main gripe with the new stuff heh.

[icy wraith]

Exiled moment, thanks for the info.

[hearty shard]

well exiled has no official release for 14.1.1

[icy wraith]

They have been pretty slow recently due to the whole github report thing.

[hearty shard]

theyre slow because they have lives

exams !!!

Or so i hear

And jobs

And stuff

[icy wraith]

Oh also, how do you use animated hints ?

[icy wraith]

Censor it please.

[hearty shard]

soo

david whatd u change for SSSS

what has thy broken

[unique crane]

Well first I have to find the commit ID for the 14.1

so I can download it locally

(do not ever compare anything to master on gitlab, especially for SL)

[hearty shard]

smh....

[hearty shard]

why!!

[unique crane]

It crashed it several times

[hearty shard]

Oh.

Interesting

Does nw have gitlab releases for all versions

im curious

[unique crane]

No, there is just tags

But you can download the depots for quite some time

[hearty shard]

damn

[unique crane]

Only these 3 were changed

with SSKeybind having the spectator fix

SSSlider sync drag

And SSSSync this

[hearty shard]

whats the sync change

[hearty shard]

thats it?

[unique crane]

• method name change

[worthy rune]

wasnt that in 14.1?

[hearty shard]

@icy knoll i blame you then

[unique crane]

Yeah 14.0 to 14.1.1

[hearty shard]

cuz no changes to SSSS and iirc you were the one that tested

[icy knoll]

i didnt do shit 😭

i didnt test anything

[worthy rune]

oh i thought you were looking for changes between 14.1 to 14.1.1

nvm

[hearty shard]

er

idk who did then

[icy knoll]

just all i know is that secretapi gets an NRE

[hearty shard]

someone did

[unique crane]

Obviously we can all here agree its Eve's fault

[icy knoll]

true

[hearty shard]

No!

[icy knoll]

thanks david

[hearty shard]

It worked at some point

Not my fault nw breaks everything

[icy knoll]

worked in 14.1.0

not 14.1.1

so

[unique crane]

Let me compare these 2 then

Yeah well only the SSKeybind

[icy knoll]

OriginalDefinition didnt get changed? hm

[hearty shard]

guh

[upper vapor]

Let's rewrite SSSS

-# honestly I would

[unique crane]

Only thing I dont like about SSSS is that there is single method for procesing all inputs

and like

Do the rest yourself..

[icy knoll]

if i ever become game dev im making SSSS 2.0

[hearty shard]

if i ever become a game dev im deleting the game

[unique crane]

And then explain it to everyone that they need to refactor their code again

[icy knoll]

did i ever say breaking change?

smh

ill just make a new system and keep the old one

just obsolete everything

[unique crane]

[hearty shard]

This is why lumi isnt dev

[icy knoll]

probably idk

[unique crane]

Apply next time

[icy knoll]

they havent opened apps for a while

[hearty shard]

there is no such thing as just obsoleting

[unique crane]

Just make sure eve cant apply

[hearty shard]

You either delete it or you keep it the way it is

[hearty shard]

GUH

[icy knoll]

dont worry, i broke into the hr system and put her on the DNH list

[unique crane]

Good good

[hearty shard]

should do that to you

[unique crane]

But anyways

some kind of wrapper for SSS so you can like

new SSKeybindEntry(...).OnPressed += ...

[grand flower]

Considering the current crash with applying scale on role change, what are the chances of the system being outright replaced with a sync var in the near future? 🙏

[unique crane]

would be nice

[icy knoll]

why dont you make a labapi version of SSSS to do smth like this?

or is it too far out of spec?

[unique crane]

No its that no one did it

[icy knoll]

id do it if yall opened apps again 😭

[upper vapor]

make source generators to migrate

[hearty shard]

chatgpt

[upper vapor]

i would do it either way

but if i'm not in NW
the chances of getting the changes accepted are negative

[unique crane]

Ive never done fake syncing buuut

does health and stuff get synced properly?

Those arent sync vars either

[grand flower]

They do, we send them as part of the fake sync message

But also: they should be sync vars ;-;

Stateful RPCs are devilish

[hearty shard]

Are stats mono behaviours

I dont think so

[unique crane]

Nop

[hearty shard]

yeaaa...

[unique crane]

They are just objects

[grand flower]

That's another problem heh, but not as big honestly

Actually doubt it even affects us

Scale does because it messes with other stateful rpcs

The good news is that at least now that I know the default is reliable ordered I can cleanup our code a bit more, but unfortunately can't outright get rid of the issue

[unique crane]

I wonder why is role update sent the next frame

Instead of right away

[hearty shard]

cuz uhh nw moment

pls fix

[grand flower]

Probably to let everything setup on role change and then update with the latest data, if I were to guess

How does Mirror handle sync vars

Updated at X frequency?

[unique crane]

0.1 I believe?

Ill just see what happens when I put the role sync msg in front of the role changed args

[grand flower]

If you wanna keep using RPCs for scale, at the very least I'd recommend adding scale to the role sync message

[upper vapor]

workaround:
set role, send the rolesyncinfo message yourself and _sendRoleNextFrame to false on the roleManager of the hub

[unique crane]

Thats

Good idea

I like that

[grand flower]

Would resolve us having to delay the fake role sync and then delay the scale

[upper vapor]

it could be in the spawn data

any FPC role would write the scale, not just position and rotation

[grand flower]

Spawn data has it already afaik nvm got confused

I just wanna be able to set the scale on role change and it be received at the same time the remote client receives the role sync

Because rn players see the dummy at full size for a split second, before it gets set to the correct tiny scale

Which is... not pretty

[scenic trout]

Does anyone know when the labapi repo on github will be updated as well as the nuget to the latest version?

[celest thorn]

never

[hearty shard]

@harsh thorn

[celest thorn]

nameless

[scenic trout]

:(

[celest thorn]

can i ask you something

[hearty shard]

no u cant

[harsh thorn]

@marble cobalt

[hearty shard]

damn

[upper vapor]

xd

[celest thorn]

you know you could use Custom IDs

[hearty shard]

for

[celest thorn]

to actually make easier the get?

for SSSS

[hearty shard]

wat

[grand flower]

I just use a string identifier and convert with GetStableHashCode

[celest thorn]

CustomSetting.GetPlayerSetting<YourCustomSetting>(SettingId, Player)?.Options

Rn its like this big ass line

you could just use

[hearty shard]

Oh id will probably be removed

In the future

[celest thorn]

CustomSetting.GetPlayerSetting(Player, "String ID");

[hearty shard]

So no need for it

[celest thorn]

its so fucking massive to actually do that

instead this is cleaner

in my opinion

[hearty shard]

nah using T >>>

[celest thorn]

Its big ass fuck

[hearty shard]

its nicer to use

[celest thorn]

but its massive

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[icy knoll]

it avoids casting urself

if it casts for you

bruh

i like the current method

maybe im biased because i made it

but yeah

[hearty shard]

Cuz i forgot to commit mine

[hearty shard]

Um

Me when

CustomSetting.TryGet<T>(player)

Well actually theres out T

[celest thorn]

SO LUMI LIED

lumi is a lier

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/blob/master/SecretAPI%2FFeatures%2FUserSettings%2FCustomSetting.cs#L95

[icy knoll]

YOU ADDED TRYGET

smh

[celest thorn]

Lumi is a lier

then i will abuse of that

i guess

oh wait

i cannot

;(

[hearty shard]

i still arent happy with my SSSS wrapper

[celest thorn]

ADD IDS :3

[hearty shard]

been trying to figure out fixes

[hearty shard]

Gross

[celest thorn]

fixes for what?

[icy knoll]

we should have setting categories too maybe?

[hearty shard]

what header is for

Or what

[celest thorn]

UUUH thats good

[icy knoll]

no i meant like for CanView as well

[celest thorn]

menus

:3

[icy knoll]

merge them together

[hearty shard]

wat

[celest thorn]

that is cool asf

[icy knoll]

rather than copy and pasting CanView

[limber silo]

this is so true

[celest thorn]

With the header

[icy knoll]

just have a category

[hearty shard]

jesus what

why r u showing up randomly

[celest thorn]

yo jesus back?

[harsh thorn]

he just like that

[icy knoll]

dont question it

[hearty shard]

fair enough

[celest thorn]

bro is spying

[limber silo]

hey

[hearty shard]

hi!

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[limber silo]

cant talk or what

[harsh thorn]

its totally not what i do

[hearty shard]

ur not real tho

[harsh thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/593858041225543702/1135871402822619146/caption.gif

[icy knoll]

ced777ric: "im busy"

[limber silo]

slowly getting back

[celest thorn]

u aren't real

[celest thorn]

Nice to know

[icy knoll]

also ced777ric at a random ass point: "im watching you guys"

[harsh thorn]

my summer break has begun

i now have time

[celest thorn]

my summer break is studying :3

for exams

[icy knoll]

cedmod v4 under way then

[harsh thorn]

im debating to rewrite the blazor server sites to hybrid

[celest thorn]

cedmod transpiler update

[harsh thorn]

or just figuring out why the fuck sometimes they are slow

[icy knoll]

just dont use blazor

simple

[celest thorn]

ask chatgpt

[harsh thorn]

i tried rewriting to some js framework in the past

[celest thorn]

joking around sometimes its useful

[harsh thorn]

didnt like it

[celest thorn]

it points out some issues i've made in my code

[harsh thorn]

well the nature of this issue is that i have no idea what the fuck the issue is

[celest thorn]

codex exist

[limber silo]

whats the issue

[harsh thorn]

i know in the past it was because 2 years ago when half of the non panel sites were made i had no idea what the fuck tasks are

[celest thorn]

give it the entire code base

[icy knoll]

i would rewrite to sveltekit if i had the time, but i dont really rn 😭

[celest thorn]

and just it will try to find

it takes 2000k hours

[harsh thorn]

but ive asyncified everything that could be blocking and supports async

[celest thorn]

but at the end sometimes its useful

[harsh thorn]

but sometimes it still takes 3 business years to load

see rn its fast

[celest thorn]

i guess server skill issue?

[harsh thorn]

faster than ive seen it before even

lmao

[celest thorn]

see

give love to your server

and it will give you faster response time

[harsh thorn]

only thing i could see as a central source of blame is the mariadb server being under high load

which slows down basically everything using it

[celest thorn]

honestly

i wanted to switch to cassandra

but ITS NON SQL

USING SQL SIMILAR LANGUAGE

like wtf

[harsh thorn]

cassandra is for a different purpose

[celest thorn]

honestly i need to find some kind of db

[harsh thorn]

cassandra is designed to handle massive amounts of data with fast querying and aggregation and stuff

[celest thorn]

that holds info but its fast

[harsh thorn]

it also EATS your ram

and cpu when its indexing

[limber silo]

how big is the db ced

[harsh thorn]

which one

[limber silo]

the biggest one

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

^ visual rappresentation of cassandra

[harsh thorn]

it used to be stats
i moved stats to a more purpose fit db engine, that lowered the load a little bit
the biggest is stuff like:
audit log
and logs for stuff like joins

[celest thorn]

Honestly ced

[harsh thorn]

i may need to clear that table at some point tbh

[celest thorn]

whats the best db you think it could work for big ass amount of data like stats

[limber silo]

saving logs for each server is gods work

[celest thorn]

rn im using MongoDB and it works so good

[celest thorn]

indexes and everything

[harsh thorn]

the db server is working overtime

[harsh thorn]

i have seen horrors with mongodb

[celest thorn]

why?

[harsh thorn]

cuz it also eats ram

[celest thorn]

indexes exist :3

[harsh thorn]

it was

either way i need to find a different db for server logs

cassandra doesnt like it

(thats why its using 800 cpu)

[random scaffold]

cloud cores

[harsh thorn]

i dont do cloud

i use bare metal

[celest thorn]

i honestly

[harsh thorn]

48 whole threads of that epyc are mine to use

[celest thorn]

lost my mind finding a good db

but mongo is always the easiest

[limber silo]

have you tested redis db like the not temporary one

[celest thorn]

and the best one

[harsh thorn]

which one do you mean?

[random scaffold]

its for panel?

[harsh thorn]

well the server does more than just panel

[limber silo]

like redis but it has a mode so the data isnt lost when restarted

[harsh thorn]

thats what i use for redis yeah

[limber silo]

postgres

mariadb

[harsh thorn]

but redis is singlethread

[celest thorn]

SQL is slow

[harsh thorn]

it does NOT like searching large volumes of data

[random scaffold]

which hosting you using?

[celest thorn]

i need fast time

[harsh thorn]

hetzner

[celest thorn]

and when hosting lars server i saw mongo behaved fast asf

[celest thorn]

with 120k queries

[harsh thorn]

🔥

[celest thorn]

and all optimization

[random scaffold]

germany cedric

[harsh thorn]

its the cheapest

[limber silo]

who lied to you

[celest thorn]

never one time crashed

[harsh thorn]

what can i say

sql isnt slow

its only slow if you use it wrong

or if you spam your db server

lmao

[random scaffold]

256gb ram

lol

[harsh thorn]

yes

[celest thorn]

None i saw it myself, a minecraft server i was working had perfect implementation and it was slow

[random scaffold]

why

[harsh thorn]

caching caching and even more caching

[celest thorn]

i do that for mongo

[limber silo]

it is probably based on the usecase and structure

[celest thorn]

the structure was massive

and i told them to change it

and divide the load

[harsh thorn]

if you make your queries wrong mariadb wont use your indexes

[limber silo]

the structure of the db is really important

[harsh thorn]

also VERY important to keep in mind

if you do a full text search with LIKE '%something%'

its not going to use your indexes

i think LIKE make it not use them regardless but im not sure about that one

[celest thorn]

This is what i use rn for a custom gamemode and it does around 0.002ms for getting it

in a 100k test enviroment

OriginalTickets isn't stored but its just used as a reference in case someone buys tickets in the online store

[random scaffold]

this bro save auth

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969589492140871693/1353902075934806046/qp3OxW96.gif

[celest thorn]

Obv i do

if you wanna search someone

how do you find them in the stats

[random scaffold]

its auth id or user id?

[celest thorn]

userid and auth

so your steamid and steam

[random scaffold]

what auth contains?

[celest thorn]

483289493@steam

Id: 483289493
auth: steam

thats how it works

[random scaffold]

death counter in string

[harsh thorn]

well thats one way to do it i guess

[random scaffold]

☠️

[celest thorn]

Death is an animation

not death counter

those are just cosmetics

[limber silo]

that is how it should be done indeed

[celest thorn]

and this is the index i create

[limber silo]

if you saved the full string you would have been failed in my uni

[harsh thorn]

i always find it easier to just put it in the same string

[celest thorn]

for searching

[celest thorn]

nah

[harsh thorn]

cuz i dont see a point in separating it

[celest thorn]

i see it because of stats

because i can understand alot

[harsh thorn]

?

i dont need to separate the platform to do stats

[celest thorn]

i remember on the old AM db almost all people who were logged with discord did infact get banned for cheating

[celest thorn]

i do have a platform for stats

[limber silo]

yeah

[celest thorn]

so thats why

[limber silo]

my teachers would be like, but nobody knows if you will in the future

[harsh thorn]

midnight doesnt support discord auth

so

[celest thorn]

this is how it looks

[harsh thorn]

what is that long ass id lmao

[celest thorn]

that is hashed steam id

Im not joking anymore i get paranoid

so much

that now for just anything i hash

it can identify

hash

[harsh thorn]

the user sees internal ids for me

other than cases where they can see the id ofc

which is almost always

lmao

[celest thorn]

Db stores everything with ids from auth

so if someone sends an email

we can just purge it in 30 seconds

i don't wanna spend 30k hours finding someone in a db

[harsh thorn]

hmm

i think it might actually be mariadb

cuz its fast rn and its still in non peak

[celest thorn]

Reject SQL

and embrace NON-SQL

[limber silo]

whats that screenshot from

[celest thorn]

[limber silo]

which software

[harsh thorn]

percora

[celest thorn]

WTF

Ahahhahaha

funny name

[harsh thorn]

yeah

[celest thorn]

ok so now you found the issue

and?

what are you going to do?

replace it?

[harsh thorn]

no

probably evaluate whats making so many queries, if the queries are efficient, and change it to be efficient if it isnt

[limber silo]

hm cant find it in google am I blind

[celest thorn]

Percona

[harsh thorn]

sorry i seem to have fucked a letter, its percona

[celest thorn]

funny enough

you wrote sheep in italian

[limber silo]

oh lol

[celest thorn]

with just an r added

[limber silo]

I see ill take a look later looks interesting

[celest thorn]

"pecora"

[harsh thorn]

yeah it might actually be the peaks

[celest thorn]

It reminds me

of like

that program for virutalizing

used in servers

i forgot the name

[harsh thorn]

theres like 20

you mean docker or actual vms

[celest thorn]

nah nah

acutal vms

it was an OS

like

[harsh thorn]

well theres a gazillion of them

[celest thorn]

i forgot

[harsh thorn]

you have vmware, virtualbox, proxmox (os)

vmware also has an OS build for itiirc

[celest thorn]

PROXMOX

yea

i totally forgot

ui wise it reminds me of that

[harsh thorn]

guess i might just enable slow query log and see what shows up

[celest thorn]

i honestly need to take a look at what tf am i hashing

[harsh thorn]

i should probably move the session management to something else

instead of querying from db

but foreign keys 😔

[heady turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130118580462161943/1383021071573323837/attachment.gif

[frail pilot]

What is the alternative to pluginconfig in labapi?

[hearty shard]

public class EffectKeeper : Plugin<Config>

or this.TryLoadConfig<TConfig>("config.yml")

[harsh thorn]

(or use the config manager manually)

[icy knoll]

me when i’m waiting for beryl to release new version so no nullable config finally

[hearty shard]

wtf

this is clearly

[frail pilot]

Thanks

[hearty shard]

calling the dropdown

but

it doesnt actually call that

calls a different one ???

[harsh thorn]

me omw to cause a massive db spike as i apply 8 new indexes

[hearty shard]

ced

why is C# like this

[harsh thorn]

what

[hearty shard]

HandleSettingUpdate is only called from here

and the only logs are of a different type

than whats actually called

[harsh thorn]

idk

[hearty shard]

💔

nvm logged wrong thing

but somehow id is wrong

[restive turret]

Ehrm you are wrong

[ionic prawn]

if (ev.Pickup == )
{

        }

What am i supposed to reference to get an item

cause when i try something it wont work

[hearty shard]

ev.Pickup.Type == ItemType.SCP500

[ionic prawn]

oo

and how am i supposed to switch the item?

[hearty shard]

what

change its type?

or what

[ionic prawn]

like switch the item to something else

[hearty shard]

delete it

create a new one

[restive turret]

Ye

That's it

[ionic prawn]

will it save position?

[restive turret]

No

[hearty shard]

no

[ionic prawn]

oh

[hearty shard]

you save position

delete

create

spawn in pos

[restive turret]

You have to manually spawn the pickup too

[ionic prawn]

got it

do i also turn isallowed off

[restive turret]

Huh what

[ionic prawn]

ev.IsAllowed = false;

[restive turret]

Ye but wher

[ionic prawn]

public override void OnScp914ProcessingPickup(Scp914ProcessingPickupEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.KnobSetting == Scp914KnobSetting.Fine)
{
if (ev.Pickup.Type == ItemType.Coin )
{
ev.IsAllowed = false;
var SavedPosition ==
}
}

    if (ev.KnobSetting == Scp914KnobSetting.VeryFine)
    {
    }
}

i just sent this when i was working on it lol

should i get base.position or just position

[restive turret]

Just position enough

[ionic prawn]

ok and how am i supposed to create the item

[restive turret]

😭 check the Pickup wrapper

[ionic prawn]

ty

made my own function for it

PluginFunctions.Process914PickupFully(ev, Scp914KnobSetting.Fine, ItemType.Coin, ItemType.KeycardJanitor);

[hearty shard]

ok i had brain damage

me when

brain damage

[restive turret]

i know

[hearty shard]

i was dupliating wrong type

xd

[restive turret]

[icy knoll]

:3

also, does anyone know how to reset Player::DisplayName?

in exiled you just set it to null but because LabAPI is nullable and stuff, it says "no"

[unique crane]

Honestly I dont see any change when sending the player info sync right before RoleChanged event

[icy knoll]

what 😭

[unique crane]

No we were talking about the scale issue

caused by the role being sent the next frame

[hearty shard]

david

ur like

C# nerd right

how does null ref happen here

before the Logger.Info

and yes ive tried logging before the return

nothing

[unique crane]

Wdym it just "says no"

You set it to null to reset it

[hearty shard]

actually

[2025-06-13 14:41:12.376 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper dynamic-method) UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.get_OriginalDefinition_Patch1(UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase)

[icy knoll]

do i just do null!

[hearty shard]

i dont think i have a 2nd patch

[icy knoll]

ah yeah i do null!

blegh

[unique crane]

Yes you do null

Ill just... make it nullable I guess

[worthy rune]

yeah that would be better

[unique crane]

And add comment that null resets it

[unique crane]

Lets see

[hearty shard]

i dont get this shitty ass setting 💔

namespace SecretAPI.Patches.Features
{
    using HarmonyLib;
    using LabApi.Features.Console;
    using SecretAPI.Attribute;
    using SecretAPI.Features.UserSettings;
    using UserSettings.ServerSpecific;

    /// <summary>
    /// Fixes <see cref="ServerSpecificSettingBase.OriginalDefinition"/> on custom settings.
    /// </summary>
    [HarmonyPatchCategory(nameof(CustomSetting))]
    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(ServerSpecificSettingBase), nameof(ServerSpecificSettingBase.OriginalDefinition), MethodType.Getter)]
    internal static class SettingsOriginalDefinitionFix
    {
#pragma warning disable SA1313
        private static void Postfix(ServerSpecificSettingBase __instance, ref ServerSpecificSettingBase __result)
#pragma warning restore SA1313
        {
            Logger.Info("test subject");

            // ignore if basegame is success (support non SecretAPI settings)
            if (__result != null)
                return;

            Logger.Info(__instance == null);
            Logger.Info(__instance!.GetType());

            __result = CustomSetting.Get(__instance.GetType(), __instance.SettingId)?.Base ?? null!;
        }
    }
}

full patch btw

[unique crane]

Sooo what is null?

result?

[worthy rune]

i also feel like it should be named differently, something like CustomName

[hearty shard]

I dont know.

[2025-06-13 14:44:21.195 +02:00] [STDOUT] Disconnecting connId=2 to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler: NullReferenceException Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-06-13 14:44:21.196 +02:00] [STDOUT] at (wrapper dynamic-method) UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.get_OriginalDefinition_Patch1(UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase)
[2025-06-13 14:44:21.196 +02:00] [STDOUT] at UserSettings.ServerSpecific.SSDropdownSetting.get_SyncSelectionText () [0x00000] in <093a5c0d652d42d593cd177a9f57d69f>:0
[2025-06-13 14:44:21.196 +02:00] [STDOUT] at SecretAPI.Features.UserSettings.CustomDropdownSetting.get_SelectedOption () [0x00006] in <b15ab221974943d39611470320d02696>:0
[2025-06-13 14:44:21.197 +02:00] [STDOUT] at SecretAPI.Examples.Settings.ExampleDropdownSetting.HandleSettingUpdate (LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player player) [0x00000] in <842f298d3dbe43fe9542c8fb91ca3963>:0

it throws null ref in that method

but it doesnt log anything

not a single log

for reference thats the stack tree

this would be a null check right

so it has to be in side the actual patch 100%

[unique crane]

@hearty shard Do you like send different settings to different people

[hearty shard]

no

its the same

[2025-06-13 14:48:08.565 +02:00] [STDOUT] Disconnecting connId=2 to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler: NullReferenceException Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-06-13 14:48:08.565 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper dynamic-method) UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.get_OriginalDefinition_Patch1(UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase)
[2025-06-13 14:48:08.565 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at UserSettings.ServerSpecific.SSDropdownSetting.get_SyncSelectionText () [0x00000] in <093a5c0d652d42d593cd177a9f57d69f>:0

even forcing an exception, still null ref

i dont get it

[unique crane]

Disable that patch

does it still happen

?

[hearty shard]

ill try ig

but it SHOULD

throw null ref if i disable

yea

[2025-06-13 14:50:13.369 +02:00] [STDOUT] Disconnecting connId=3 to prevent exploits from an Exception in MessageHandler: NullReferenceException Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-06-13 14:50:13.370 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingBase.get_OriginalDefinition () [0x00035] in <093a5c0d652d42d593cd177a9f57d69f>:0
[2025-06-13 14:50:13.370 +02:00] [STDOUT]   at UserSettings.ServerSpecific.SSDropdownSetting.get_SyncSelectionText () [0x00000] in <093a5c0d652d42d593cd177a9f57d69f>:0

no patch mention this time tho

[icy knoll]

considering this is a postfix

that means that something is null

[unique crane]

The only way that could happen

is that

ServerSpecificSettingsSync.DefinedSettings is null

[hearty shard]

its not part of DefinedSettings

i dont change that

the reason i need the patch is to validate properly without base game server knowing it exists

works on my server tho

[icy knoll]

maybe add a check to see if DefinedSettings is null and if it is, just set to an empty array

[hearty shard]

no patch difference

[hearty shard]

thats not secret api moment tho

i override to not care for it

[icy knoll]

sure, but it's better than not doing anything

[hearty shard]

it shouldnt fix secret api

but ig ill try?

if it fixes... nw moment

[restive turret]

Still no idea why isn't initialized

[unique crane]

Eve moment

[hearty shard]

me when default to null

[icy knoll]

just do it on CustomSetting.Register tho probably lol

[restive turret]

Me when you can just use [];

[hearty shard]

...................

me when

me when

[restive turret]

(or new();

[hearty shard]

that made my patch use its own exception

which is

progress

[restive turret]

Domt think

The progess is its being perfect

[hearty shard]

wait

wait

oh

it might be erroring basegame

and then uhhh

[restive turret]

Also why does the server crash if I make a scale to 1, -1 , 1

[hearty shard]

postfix catches it

[restive turret]

[hearty shard]

and gets the exception

[hearty shard]

when

role change ?

[restive turret]

After

Like

[hearty shard]

[2025-06-13 14:55:13.098 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] test subject
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.114 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] False
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.129 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] UserSettings.ServerSpecific.SSDropdownSetting
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.145 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI.Examples] test
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.161 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] test subject
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.176 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] False
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.191 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI] UserSettings.ServerSpecific.SSDropdownSetting
[2025-06-13 14:55:13.208 +02:00] [INFO] [SecretAPI.Examples] test

[restive turret]

Around 2f wait

[restive turret]

test

[hearty shard]

it works

@unique crane ....

I HATE YOUUU

[restive turret]

Kind of

[hearty shard]

idk why it works on my server

or why it works in 14.1

or 14.0

[unique crane]

So you have skill issue and didnt change the DefinedSettings

did you

[hearty shard]

or any time

[hearty shard]

yeah but

i never did that

it was tested

[icy knoll]

do you have exiled on ur server?

[unique crane]

Must have been the wind then

[icy knoll]

like at all

[hearty shard]

no

[icy knoll]

hm

[hearty shard]

i dont use exiled

whatever

i just

[restive turret]

Refuse exiled

[icy knoll]

i imagine exiled would fix it by the way it works but yeah that's weird

[hearty shard]

I CAN FINALLY BE SICK IN PEACE

[restive turret]

Go to FreakyAPI

[icy knoll]

me when im migrating everything to labapi rn

[icy knoll]

if you dont release an update rn!!!!!!

[hearty shard]

no

flip you

[restive turret]

Same but i waiting on other plp to give me src for it

[unique crane]

Im still rewriting my old plugins to LabAPI from NWAPI

[icy knoll]

atleast give me the .dll to use 😭

[ionic prawn]

now someone is going to make that 💀
||-# Not me tho||

[hearty shard]

no

take it

[icy knoll]

pls 🙏

ty

[hearty shard]

or leave it

ill make release in a year

[icy knoll]

i got it

[restive turret]

David you could do the funniest thing, deleting that dll

[unique crane]

I dont have perms to do that

[hearty shard]

yea

xd

[restive turret]

F

[restive turret]

Report for virus

[solid mica]

SO um.. how to log something into console?

[icy knoll]

Logger.Info()

[restive turret]

CL.Info

[ionic prawn]

i use Logger.info (:

[restive turret]

Oh nvm you don't have an alias for console.logger

[unique crane]

Make sure you use Logger from LabApi.uhhsomething.Console

[solid mica]

Admin console or game console?

[unique crane]

and not the UnityEngine one

[icy knoll]

LA Console

[ionic prawn]

go make freakyapi

[solid mica]

Los angeles console i guess...

[restive turret]

Me when i

<Using Include="LabApi.Features.Console.Logger" Alias="CL" />```

[restive turret]

That will be my AI bot name

[ionic prawn]

crazy 💀

bro is going to do something else with the ai

[icy knoll]

@hearty shard it works!!! tysmmmmm

[restive turret]

FreakyGuy vs Pissfart

AI vs AI

[ionic prawn]

tf

[restive turret]

SCP:SL AI battle

Is it against vsr to make ai to the game?

[unique crane]

AI like...

what

npc that moves around

[restive turret]

Ye

And shoot people

As like normal player

[unique crane]

Nothing against that as far as I know