plugins-dev-chat

[upper vapor]

hence the obsolete stuff

no conversion though cuz i'm lazy

Enum.TryParse(typeof(RoomName), RoomType.Whatever, out var name)

[royal mica]

Doesn't Position have a room method?

nvm I should read

[slate flume]

So uhhh if I want to implement SSSS what should I do

[royal mica]

You can:

• Opt to using a Lib, like https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI and implement their SSSS solution (which is easier)
• Look at an example implementation in UserSettings.ServerSpecific.Examples like SSPrimitiveSpawnerExample

[young phoenix]

Guys should I use pluginapi, labapi or something else, and what is the difference between all of them

[mild ice]

PluginAPI is now retired and no longer in use, it's been replaced with LabAPI!

If you're developing anything for the current version of the game and beyond use LabAPI or a supported 3rd party framework of your choice

[fresh zenith]

does anyone know why i get this error?:

also here the code

[young phoenix]

Okay looks like I chose the right api, however there are no tutorials/guide/documentation for it. The github wiki seems outdated and idk where to exactly begin, any tips?

[mild ice]

The wiki remains the best source of information about LabAPI I'm aware of, so I'd suggest starting with following the development tutorial there:
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki

If you have any questions or get stuck anywhere you're always welcome to ask here!

[hearty shard]

@icy knoll i dont even think id is needed

at all

to get a setting

[icy knoll]

yeah

lol

as long as you got the type ig

[hearty shard]

public static bool TryGet<T>(Player player, [NotNullWhen(true)] out T? setting)
            where T : CustomSetting
        {
            setting = null;

            // ReSharper disable once ConditionIsAlwaysTrueOrFalseAccordingToNullableAPIContract
            if (player is null)
                return false;

            if (!PlayerSettings.TryGetValue(player, out List<CustomSetting>? settings))
                return false;

            foreach (CustomSetting toCheck in settings)
            {
                if (toCheck is T value)
                {
                    setting = value;
                    return true;
                }
            }

            return false;
        }

[icy knoll]

wait no

you may

[hearty shard]

no

😭

[icy knoll]

just incase public Setting(int id)

and you make multiple

[hearty shard]

you should never do that 😭

[icy knoll]

or

public Setting(string label)

[hearty shard]

[icy knoll]

and then ID will be different

would be useful for smth like a server specific player manager for staff or smth

idk

or a mute manager for scp prox chat

ig you can make a version for with id and without id

wont matter really

[upper vapor]

why don't you make player nullable

comically long Rider shut up comment

[hearty shard]

its a copy paste from a different project

i forgot to make it nullable

xd

[sinful bronze]

Lol

[hearty shard]

it also shouldnt be null

[mild ice]

This is why I use Notepad instead

[hearty shard]

so ill prob just remove null check

[royal mica]

Sometimes Player.playerId can be null and I hate it

[restive turret]

this guy is a knower

[hearty shard]

u...

to prison u go

[tribal dagger]

does hid lab not have its own DoorName?

[restive turret]

nuh uh

ye it doesnt

cus NW forgot to add it

same as other doors

[tribal dagger]

[restive turret]

if you search with tagname / string you prob find it

[tribal dagger]

yeah i could, but that adds another NW issue onto my project

im starting to consider going back to exiled

at least enums make sense

[icy knoll]

me when most people resort to searching for doors via their unity name

same with rooms too lol

[hearty shard]

[icy knoll]

when secretapi update

[hearty shard]

when i decide im happy w the mirror change and prefab store

[wispy dirge]

wtf 🥀

[icy knoll]

okie

[hearty shard]

idk if prefab store works

[restive turret]

so never

[hearty shard]

exactly

[wispy dirge]

i think 079 broke

changed my role to 079 and above happened

[hearty shard]

tf did u do

[wispy dirge]

I DONT KNOW 😭

i just added some 079 cams via PMER 😭

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/pull/24/files

i dont know if i like this

[wispy dirge]

ok the 079 cams i added made 079 autistic

cool

😭

[worthy rune]

did you add cams in the void

[wispy dirge]

yeah

for my custom map

since there is some things

[worthy rune]

thats broken, should be fixed in 14.1.x

[wispy dirge]

wait are you saying 😭

NOOOOO
😭

i added like 20 cameras 🥀

[worthy rune]

you can spawn them in a room first and teleport them, or just set the room up youself

[hearty shard]

is array or list better to store

array right

(store as in, no modifying it in the future, just permanent there)

[icy knoll]

yeah

array

[hearty shard]

yea

[icy knoll]

if you arent planning on appending or removing

[hearty shard]

!!!

ToArray it is

[wispy dirge]

i found the cameras making the server autistic i will remove them for now

atleast 079 works now 😭

[tribal dagger]

me when thats not an option for me

why have RoomName enum at all when you can use strings ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont buy this, sry

[hearty shard]

that wasnt the point tho

the point was most ppl use string for it

[tribal dagger]

idc what people use for getting that

imo NW should try to keep it updated, especially when it's a thing helps developers with searching for rooms

everyone can go out there and use unity names, but its just a lil dumb

especially when these can change over time and give you no compile issues

i think that the fact of people even using unity names in the first place already shows how the system is failing

[upper vapor]

You need to have the room set

[slate flume]

I tried that and it didn't work 😭

[royal mica]

Which one?

[hearty shard]

i literally have no clue what ur issue is

i can probably test it rn

[slate flume]

Right?!

I'm so confused bro

I know I'm probably doing something wrong I'm just not smart enough to know what

If I can do anything to help resolve this I'll do whatever

[hearty shard]

give me a sec

im testing if my example broke

[slate flume]

👍 I'll be here

I'm probably gonna go get a drink or something lmao

[hearty shard]

works for me

i click and i die

[slate flume]

Damn so alright

Maybe I try again and hope it works

[hearty shard]

test on your own server with this

[slate flume]

Will do o7

[hearty shard]

both are required to be updated to that version btw

theres some changes to the code

[slate flume]

Well I'm launching my server I'll be testing in a sec

Literally what the hell am I doing wrong

I feel like it's inevitably the most obvious thing I just can't figure it out

I'm having the same thing as before, the menu pops up, just the keybind doesn't kill me, and I can't for the life of me explain what's going on

It's the exact same code how is this happening

[royal mica]

Have you sent the code here yet?

[slate flume]

This time I'm literally using the same DLLs

[royal mica]

I assume you have no other plugins installed right?

[slate flume]

Correct

The new folders are just because I moved the other plugins off the list

[hearty shard]

oh

secretapi shouldnt be in dependencies btw

[slate flume]

Lemme try with it not there haha

[hearty shard]

it is a dependency but it loads as a plugin

thats likely the issue

[slate flume]

It was...

I won't lie I'm embarrassed a bit

[slate flume]

^ called it

🤦

Making an absolute fool of myself is my favorite passtime

[young phoenix]

I did start out with the wiki but I was left confused. For example should override Enable or should use the pluginentrypoint atttribute?

[hearty shard]

override Enable

there is no PluginEntryPoint

[slate flume]

@hearty shard I apologize for the trouble thanks for being such a huge help

[hearty shard]

no worries

i try

[young phoenix]

is it from another API?

[hearty shard]

PluginEntryPoint is from old api

deleted

gone

obliterated

[young phoenix]

ah I see, thanks

[hearty shard]

[young phoenix]

lol

[hearty shard]

wrong thumbs

[young phoenix]

XD

[royal mica]

I assume there is still no lazy way to position multiple hints right?

[hearty shard]

use ruei

[royal mica]

Kind of want to avoid using deps :\

[hearty shard]

create ruei urself

[royal mica]

lol

Yeah probably need to implement something like this, but more scoped

[young phoenix]

how can I broadcast a message to all players, like the one from remote admin panel

not cassie

[upper vapor]

Server.Broadcast maybe

[hearty shard]

Server.SendBroadcast();

[upper vapor]

almost

[young phoenix]

thanks

where is the list of all the events I can override?

[hearty shard]

its auto generated

[upper vapor]

your IDE should be able to suggest methods to override

[young phoenix]

ah alr thnx

[upper vapor]

also the event methods are in PlayerEvents.cs, ServerEvents.cs etc

[hearty shard]

also if you have Rider you can just go to the original method

[young phoenix]

yeah ok found it after using F12

[hearty shard]

and view teh code

[royal mica]

It might inherit the doc, not sure

[young phoenix]

hmm

[hearty shard]

auto generated source moment

[young phoenix]

do I have to call the base method?

[upper vapor]

in CustomEventsHandler, no

since the base method is empty

[young phoenix]

I can'st access the Broadcast.BroadcastFlags enum (I presume), how can I reference the assembly?

[hearty shard]

you didnt reference the game assembly

Assembly-CSharp.dll

[upper vapor]

duh

right click "dependencies" in the project and "add reference"

or something similar

[random scaffold]

why just not a read the error?

[upper vapor]

they've read the error

the question was how to reference the assembly

[young phoenix]

I've never worked with assemblies before

[wispy dirge]

bald

[young phoenix]

it's already there but it still gives me the error

or do I need a different one

[hearty shard]

that is microsoft

not sl

[random scaffold]

why cant find DoorPermissionFlags?

[hearty shard]

sl references can be found in server files

[upper vapor]

ye, you specifically need Assembly-CSharp
SCPSL_Data/Managed

[wispy dirge]

wtf 😭

[young phoenix]

I used NuGet to set up the project, did I miss something perhaps

[hearty shard]

nuget includes labapi and its docs

does not include every single reference

[random scaffold]

someone know?

[hearty shard]

Works for me

[young phoenix]

how can I add assembly-csharp.dll then? it doesn't list it in the reference manager

[hearty shard]

download the server files (the SL dedicated

go to SCP Secret Laboratory Dedicated Server\SCPSL_Data\Managed

reference Assembly-CSharp.dll file in there

[young phoenix]

on github or through steam?

[hearty shard]

Dedicated is on steam

[young phoenix]

got it

it worked thank you!

any special things I need to do before building? e.g. target platform or debug/release

[solid mica]

Can the jailbird charged attack be disabled?

[static meteor]

youll need to edit this but it works

    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(JailbirdItem), nameof(JailbirdItem.ServerProcessCmd))]
    internal static class JailbirdItemChargePatch
    {
        [HarmonyPrefix]
        public static bool Prefix(JailbirdItem __instance, NetworkReader reader)
        {
            try
            {
                reader.ReadByte();
                reader.Position -= 1;
                JailbirdMessageType messageType = (JailbirdMessageType)reader.ReadByte();
                reader.Position -= 1;

                if (messageType == JailbirdMessageType.ChargeLoadTriggered || messageType == JailbirdMessageType.ChargeStarted)
                {
                    if (API.Utilities.TryGetSummonedCustomItem(__instance.ItemSerial, out var customItem))
                    {
                        if (customItem.Item.Type == ItemType.Jailbird && customItem.HasModule(CustomFlags.NoCharge))
                        {
                            __instance.SendRpc(JailbirdMessageType.ChargeFailed);
                            return false;
                        }
                    }
                }
                return true;
            }
            catch (Exception ex)
            {
                LogManager.Error($"{nameof(JailbirdItemChargePatch)}: {ex.Message}\n{ex.StackTrace}");
            }
            return true;
        }
    }

[solid mica]

oh god

[upper vapor]

reader.ReadByte();
reader.Position -= 1;
JailbirdMessageType messageType = (JailbirdMessageType)reader.ReadByte();

bruh what the hell boi

the lines i highlighted are completely redundant

[hearty shard]

😭

never cook again

[brisk matrix]

[2025-05-21 14:52:00.469 +02:00] [STDOUT] Couldn't create a Convex Mesh from source mesh, within the maximum polygons limit (256). The partial hull will be used. Consider simplifying your mesh. Source mesh name: Sphere what 🙏

Why this even happens

[royal mica]

ok im so fucking confused.
Upon creating the Primitive, the Collider exists in my component

Later when I do Raycast, get my Component, the Collider is null?!

ok manually toggling the isTrigger doesn't work either. What the fuck is going on

[teal junco]

Show code

[main zenith]

i can be wrong but u cant turn a primitive collision to isTrtigger

[celest thorn]

player.SendFakeSyncVar(primitiveInstance.netId, "PrimitiveObjectToy.NetworkMaterialColor", 64, Color.blue);

    public static void SendFakeSyncVar<T>(
        this Player   target,
        uint          netId,
        string        syncVarKey,
        ulong behaviourMask,
        T             value)
    {
        var owner    = NetworkWriterPool.Get();
        var observer = NetworkWriterPool.Get();
        
        Compression.CompressVarUInt(owner, behaviourMask);

        int   headerPos   = owner.Position;
        owner.WriteByte(0);
        int   payloadStart = owner.Position;
        
        if (!SyncVarDirtyBits.TryGetValue(syncVarKey, out ulong syncVarMask))
        {
            Debug.LogError($"Unknown SyncVar key: {syncVarKey}");
            goto CLEANUP;
        }
        owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);
        
        var writerDel = WriterExtensions[typeof(T)];
        if (writerDel == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError($"No WriterExtension for type {typeof(T)}");
            goto CLEANUP;
        }
        writerDel.Invoke(null, new object[]{ owner, value });
        Debug.Log($"[FakeSyncVar] {syncVarKey} ← {value} (mask=0x{syncVarMask:X})");
        
        int payloadEnd = owner.Position;
        owner.Position = headerPos;
        owner.WriteByte((byte)((payloadEnd - payloadStart) & 0xFF));
        owner.Position = payloadEnd;

        observer.WriteBytes(owner.ToArraySegment().Array, headerPos, payloadEnd - headerPos);

        target.Connection.Send(new EntityStateMessage {
            netId   = netId,
            payload = owner.ToArraySegment()
        });
        Logger.Debug($"[FakeSyncVar] Sent netId={netId}, {syncVarKey}");

    CLEANUP:
        NetworkWriterPool.Return(owner);
        NetworkWriterPool.Return(observer);
    }

Someone knows whats wrong because at this point i don't really know
[2025-05-21 13:14:58.846 +00:00] [STDOUT] [FakeSyncVar] PrimitiveObjectToy.NetworkMaterialColor ← RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 1.000, 1.000) (mask=0x40)
[2025-05-21 13:14:58.873 +00:00] [DEBUG] [FakeSyncVar] Sent netId=584, PrimitiveObjectToy.NetworkMaterialColor

[upper vapor]

goto

[celest thorn]

i know scream at me later

[upper vapor]

what's just unity being unity

[royal mica]

This only happens when I use the LabAPI wrapper.
If I spawn the primitive via GameObject.CreatePrimitive, it works

[celest thorn]

it should be lol

[upper vapor]

troll

[celest thorn]

btw you know something lol?

[main zenith]

yeah i see now

[celest thorn]

like primitives don't really change at all

[upper vapor]

using NetworkWriterPooled writer = ...
then you don't need the return

[celest thorn]

no error in the client nor console

[celest thorn]

Ok thats 1 but really i don't know why its not working the client should be able to recieve the update

and i don't really know if that is happening nor if mirror even takes it

[royal mica]

will show code soon, need to truncate it + restore into readable format

[main zenith]

btw i have a question does anybody know if its possible and how to set class name via server for something else (i mean the display text of the living player)

[hearty shard]

remove it

set CustomInfo

[upper vapor]

are you writing the dirty bits twice?

[celest thorn]

no?

[celest thorn]

Read the code here

i don't think i am

[upper vapor]

you have to

[celest thorn]

Compression.CompressVarUInt(owner, behaviourMask); 2x?

[main zenith]

Thx so much

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-no-laughing-seriously-i-dont-think-so-gif-26207681

no

[celest thorn]

Magic

i love mirror

[upper vapor]

it's not that simple

[celest thorn]

;( why life is hard

wait im writing them

just one time tho

[celest thorn]

owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);

[hearty shard]

btw

var writerDel = WriterExtensions[typeof(T)];
        if (writerDel == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError($"No WriterExtension for type {typeof(T)}");
            goto CLEANUP;
        }

[celest thorn]

yea?

[hearty shard]

public static void ProperWrite(NetworkWriter writer, object obj)
        {
            Type genericType = typeof(Writer<>).MakeGenericType(obj.GetType());
            FieldInfo? writeField = genericType.GetField("write", BindingFlags.Static | BindingFlags.Public);
            if (writeField == null)
            {
                Logger.Warn($"Tried to write type: {obj.GetType()} but has no NetworkWriter!");
                return;
            }

            object? writeDelegate = writeField.GetValue(null);
            if (writeDelegate is not Delegate del)
            {
                Logger.Warn($"Writer<{obj.GetType()}>.write is not a delegate!");
                return;
            }

            del.DynamicInvoke(writer, obj);
        }

thats my proper write thing

[celest thorn]

if (!SyncVarDirtyBits.TryGetValue(syncVarKey, out ulong syncVarMask))
{
Debug.LogError($"Unknown SyncVar key: {syncVarKey}");
goto CLEANUP;
}
owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);

If magically i just do

    owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);
    owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);

[upper vapor]

if you only modify the primive's props then it should work

[celest thorn]

for now

[celest thorn]

just for now then i will start trying to do it for everything

[upper vapor]

for the data, write

1. dirty bits (AdminToyBase)
2. AdminToyBase properties
3. same dirty bits as before (derived toy)
4. derived toy's properties

[celest thorn]

Im just not understanding so i just need to write admin toys one

and then the one from the toy

owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);
owner.WriteULong(syncVarMask);

I tried this but nope

[upper vapor]

weird

what's your syncvarmask

[celest thorn]

let me log it

could it be the behaviormask?

[upper vapor]

maybe..?

[celest thorn]

64UL is the one

[upper vapor]

idk if that's correct since it depends on component order

[celest thorn]

its a primitive

so

it should be right

[celest thorn]

64

is the syncvarmask

[upper vapor]

primitive objects have their colliders reset when the primitive type changes (also on start)

either patch Start() or delay the isTrigger modification

[royal mica]

The strange is that I spawn the primitive at RountStart event, add custom component there and not change the type or anything

[restive turret]

It only gets the networkbehavior component

[restive turret]

If u not using that than the component list should be fine

[celest thorn]

honestly i don't know why that is a problem

[royal mica]

        
        var collider = SpawnUtil.SpawnObject(
            new Vector3(0, 102, 5),
            Quaternion.identity,
            new Vector3(.5f, 3f, .3f),
            new Color(1f, 0.92156863f, 0.015686275f, .7f)
        );
        
        var customCollider = collider.GameObject.AddComponent<CustomColliderBehaviour>();
        customCollider.Init(collider);

and

        public void Init(PrimitiveObjectToy baseObject)
        {
            Base = baseObject;
            baseObject.IsStatic = true;
            baseObject.GameObject.GetComponent<Collider>().isTrigger = true;
            Logger.Info("Custom Collider Inited");
        }

Which actually returns true

[upper vapor]

but the collider gets destroyed one frame later by the call to SetPrimitive in Start

-# Start is called on the first frame of the object being active

[restive turret]

Ye unity

Lovely

Timing.CallDelayed(0.2f, () => .. );

[celest thorn]

@upper vapor you know what i can do instead of calling fakesyncvar deleting and spawning it back

i just cannot figure it out on why like its a week

YOOO i got

[upper vapor]

what was it

[celest thorn]

PrimitiveObjectToy(Clone) (netId=601): AdminToys.PrimitiveObjectToy OnDeserialize size mismatch. It read 24 bytes, which caused a size hash mismatch of 18 vs. 20. Make sure that OnSerialize and OnDeserialize write/read the same amount of data in all cases.

[upper vapor]

you need to store the writer start before writing the data

oh wait

nvm you uh

[celest thorn]

Like idk at this point

[celest thorn]

so yea this is code at this point idk

[restive turret]

owner.WriteULong(0); before SyncVarDirtyBits if condition

[random scaffold]

how i can check scp can open a door or not?

[celest thorn]

wydm?

[random scaffold]

KeycardPermissionFlags doesnt exists in assembly lol

[hearty shard]

It does

update your references

[upper vapor]

public static void SendFakeSyncVar<T>(
    this Player target,
    uint netId,
    string syncVarKey,
    T value
)
{
    using var observer = NetworkWriterPool.Get();

    ulong behaviourMask = 1UL;
    Compression.CompressVarUInt(observer, behaviourMask);

    int headerPos = observer.Position;
    observer.WriteByte(0);
    int payloadStart = observer.Position;

    if (!SyncVarDirtyBits.TryGetValue(syncVarKey, out ulong syncVarMask))
    {
        Debug.LogError($"Unknown SyncVar key: {syncVarKey}");
        return;
    }

    observer.WirteULong(0); // sync objects
    observer.WriteULong(syncVarMask);
    observer.WriteULong(syncVarMask);

    if (!WriterExtensions.TryGetValue(typeof(T), out var writerDel))
    {
        Debug.LogError($"No WriterExtension for type {typeof(T)}");
        return;
    }

    writerDel.Invoke(null, new object[] {observer, value});
    Debug.Log($"[FakeSyncVar] {syncVarKey} ← {value} (mask=0x{syncVarMask:X})");

    int payloadEnd = observer.Position;
    observer.Position = headerPos;
    observer.WriteByte((byte) ((payloadEnd - payloadStart) & 0xFF));
    observer.Position = payloadEnd;

    target.Connection.Send(new EntityStateMessage
    {
        netId = netId,
        payload = observer.ToArraySegment()
    });
    Logger.Debug($"[FakeSyncVar] Sent netId={netId}, {syncVarKey}");

}

try this

[hearty shard]

also

if (checkFlags.HasFlag(DoorPermissionCheck.Role) && player.RoleBase is IDoorPermissionProvider roleProvider && requester.PermissionsPolicy.CheckPermissions(roleProvider.GetPermissions(requester)))
                return true;

[restive turret]

As said.
Do write 0 before the first if statement

[upper vapor]

no need for two writers

[random scaffold]

its last

[hearty shard]

its not

mine works

[random scaffold]

server too show same error

if it compiled

[restive turret]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions/blob/main/Extensions/FakeSyncExtension.cs

[upper vapor]

there's already a WriteByte(0) there

[restive turret]

He does not writr fake sync object

[upper vapor]

right

[restive turret]

Thats the position

[upper vapor]

i had it in my code but didn't notice it missing in zero's

[restive turret]

Serializing writing SyncObject but admintoy doesn't have any

[celest thorn]

[2025-05-21 13:54:04.816 +00:00] [INFO] [MeowEditor.API] Works
[2025-05-21 13:54:04.826 +00:00] [DEBUG] [MeowEditor.API] [FakeSyncVar] Sent netId=571, PrimitiveObjectToy.NetworkMaterialColor

Nope

[restive turret]

The first is writing the size temp

[upper vapor]

updated code

[celest thorn]

and no error

in the client

[restive turret]

Code updated use that

[celest thorn]

i used that

[upper vapor]

copy it again and try

i've updated the message

[celest thorn]

Im about to say something

and the best to say it

is

IT WORKS

[random scaffold]

its not

last version

try check it

[hearty shard]

Oh

KeycardPermissionFlags

i thought you meant the other one

yeah no that doesnt exist

i also sent code for it already

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/blob/master/SecretAPI/Extensions/PlayerExtensions.cs#L34

[random scaffold]

checkFlags it what

[hearty shard]

DoorPermissionCheck is a custom enum

you can remove it if u dont need it

[random scaffold]

requester it who

um

[upper vapor]

real reaction

https://tenor.com/view/scp-939-939-dog-scp-sl-scp-gif-1519866487959272020

[hearty shard]

door

[restive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[random scaffold]

the requester had no connection with the word "door"

[hearty shard]

actually doors have IDoorPermissionRequester

[upper vapor]

IDoorPermissionRequester

door

[restive turret]

ye cus its a interface

[random scaffold]

PermissionsPolicy doesnt exists*

[hearty shard]

this is an example and is not valid code

[random scaffold]

in a door

[hearty shard]

again

you need IDoorPermissionRequester in your check

you call the method

with the door

also door DOES have it

[restive turret]

not the labapi door

[restive turret]

but the basegame

[hearty shard]

Reminder it has to be SL door

yes

[random scaffold]

its not

lol

[hearty shard]

you cant = new()

but it works for me just fine

latest version

[random scaffold]

um same

im too have latest dependencies

[upper vapor]

have you tried uninstalling visual studio

[random scaffold]

it doesnt exists in source too

lol

[hearty shard]

it does

[upper vapor]

what is the type of RequiredPermissions

[random scaffold]

no

[hearty shard]

logic

[upper vapor]

so you don't have the new version

[hearty shard]

ur not on the 14.1 update

i dont believe it

[random scaffold]

latest version of the server

[upper vapor]

if using steamcmd add -beta public to the install command

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[random scaffold]

server works with client

[hearty shard]

remove beta

well actually

its in the beta too

[random scaffold]

it doesnt have beta

its base version

[hearty shard]

well ur clearly not on 14.1 😭

[random scaffold]

but server works with 14.1 client lol

[upper vapor]

then you haven't copied the DLLs

[hearty shard]

then reference the correct server dll

not the old one

[hearty shard]

yes but

[random scaffold]

its server dll

[hearty shard]

you clearly arent using that

[random scaffold]

it that

lmao

[hearty shard]

Publicized isnt the one included with SL

Re do the publicize

or reference the non publicized

[upper vapor]

yea

[random scaffold]

then why it exists there

lol

[hearty shard]

because thats where you put it

?

[random scaffold]

no

i didnt put it

[hearty shard]

you did...

[upper vapor]

you keep the publicized one in the managed directory

how do you expect it to update

[upper vapor]

you're better off using BepinEx.AssemblyPublicizer.MSBuild

[hearty shard]

idk about u

but i dont see publicized there

exiled usually has publicized, which means you downloaded exiled references

and threw them in managed folder

@restive turret i hate nuget

😭

[restive turret]

skill issue

[hearty shard]

nuget.yml references just dont work

they look identical to me 😭

[restive turret]

wdym

what did u do

😭

[hearty shard]

it hasnt worked for a while

oh

why did the pr one work ???

bad timing?

idk

[restive turret]

how would i know

they said it gonna get removed

you are in exiled dc how could you not read about that

[hearty shard]

so r u

ok but

where does it say that

"read about that"

theres links to it and forwards

💀

i pinged u cuz one worked and the other didnt

[upper vapor]

yeah uh

[hearty shard]

but yes

[upper vapor]

it's exslmod

not exmod

cuz things happen

[hearty shard]

oh yeah

that too

however

[restive turret]

YOU NOT UNZIPPING

you animal

[hearty shard]

YOU said "fixed it"

and tell me

where does the pr one unzip

correct?

they both do that

[restive turret]

well idk

skill issue?

[hearty shard]

[random scaffold]

when .Scale?

[hearty shard]

when you make it

or when you wait for nw to make it

[random scaffold]

im about other

[restive turret]

you my lib

copied things from exiled and mirror

[random scaffold]

which?

[restive turret]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/LabApiExtensions
This has it

@hearty shard clearly skill issue since this works for me
https://github.com/SlejmUr/CustomItemsAPI/actions/runs/15165220456/job/42641127782

[hearty shard]

you literally compared diff

and showed it being close

other than yk

nuget pushing to nuget

[random scaffold]

isn't it more efficient to access localScale directly?

[hearty shard]

by a single nanosecond maybe

[random scaffold]

But if you send it to existing users, what size will be visible to those who enter?

[upper vapor]

it would be much more efficient to only request the transform once

instead of 3x

[restive turret]

What if I cache it by player with a dict to able to show fake scale to new joined players?

hmmm

[random scaffold]

yes

[restive turret]

There's nothing as permanent as a temporary solution.

[random scaffold]

[restive turret]

also I busy studiing how networking works

with my own soltuion

[royal mica]

Well... isTrigger is true and I cannot move into it

[upper vapor]

gotta unset Collidable

make sure to enable the collider in calldelayed

[royal mica]

That straight up disabled the Collider

[restive turret]

collide with deez

[restive turret]

istn auto on when created?

[upper vapor]

yeah

they want a trigger though

so no collider on the client

but a collider on the server

if the collider is disabled then trigger does nothing

[royal mica]

eh I gave up

I'll just add another collider

[upper vapor]

[royal mica]

        public void Init(PrimitiveObjectToy baseObject)
        {
            Base = baseObject;
            baseObject.Flags = PrimitiveFlags.Visible;
            Collider = baseObject.GameObject.AddComponent<BoxCollider>();
            Collider.isTrigger = true;
            Collider.enabled = true;
            
            Initialized = true;
        }

[upper vapor]

r/tihi

[royal mica]

I lost the will to debug why SpawnToy kills it, but prefab spawn works

I mean, I somewhat know

but even now it doesn't work

[upper vapor]

because GameObject.CreatePrimitive is simple

PrimitiveObjectToy sets the primitive based on network data

in Start, it calls SetPrimitive which reassigns the collider

[royal mica]

Right, but that is bypassed by doing a Timing.RunDelayed and then set Trigger, would that work in theory, right?

[upper vapor]

can you show the code you had

you gotta do toy._collider in the delayed call

[royal mica]

...

        public Collider Collider => _collider ??= Base.GameObject.GetComponent<Collider>();
        private PrimitiveObjectToy Base { get; set; }

        private Collider? _collider;

        private bool _skippedFrame;
        
        public void Init(PrimitiveObjectToy baseObject)
        {
            Base = baseObject;
            baseObject.IsStatic = true;
            Timing.CallDelayed(
                .2f,
                () =>
                {
                    Collider.isTrigger = true;
                }
            );
            Logger.Info("Custom Collider Inited");
            Initialized = true;
        }
...

Yeah, that might not do it then

[upper vapor]

you can't do ??=

give it a private setter and assign it in CallDelayed

[upper vapor]

unity objects have custom lifetime checks

so is null or ?. or ?? don't work on them

[royal mica]

I should learn unity first before doing cursed stuff

Thank you, rewrote it so it is assigned

[upper vapor]

you gotta use == null to check for null
or !unityObject

[upper vapor]

since the equality operator is overloaded
but the above operators don't use the overloaded operator

[upper vapor]

yeah many people dislike this important ""caveat

[royal mica]

its just another "this is how the framework works, read the docs" moment

[upper vapor]

ye

[royal mica]

Transparent primitives are cut off by the fog

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/unity-errors-beloved-heart-locket-gif-2040718952292911474

[upper vapor]

well uh

that happens

[royal mica]

OH THE CLIENT DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT

The existing collider doesn't sync to the Client

the isTrigger

i love networking

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

yeah

hence the Collidable flag

it just enables or disables the collider

[royal mica]

Yeah but that completly disabled the collider and that makes the custom copmponent not work

aaaa

[upper vapor]

just enable it

[royal mica]

did you try to say this the whole time and it just went woosh over my head?

[upper vapor]

perhaps

[royal mica]

sometimes I even surprise myself

next step is figuring out if the player is pressing space

that is going to be fun

[upper vapor]

do i spoiler it

[royal mica]

you can't

[upper vapor]

why couldn't i

[royal mica]

oh I meant you cannot chekc if player is actively pressing space

inb4 SSSS

[upper vapor]

you can't check if they're holding it down

without SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[royal mica]

yeah that is what I need dang it

and they can just simply rebind that

[upper vapor]

but there's FpcMotor.JumpRequested

or WantsToJump

[royal mica]

i guess implementing cs water will be harder

[hollow pewter]

rq AddingObserver is called when someone looks at 173 for the first time or everytime someone looks at 173?

[upper vapor]

i think it should be every time

[upper vapor]

you're not making CS, are you?

[royal mica]

something closely related

[upper vapor]

[random scaffold]

addcomponent<boxcollider>

.isTrigger = true;
.Scale *= 1.1f;

ready

[royal mica]

Didn't want to add a component when there is one alread

since I assume there will be 100 of these

damn Velocity is not synced like Gravity is

[random scaffold]

then just get

[random scaffold]

nw moment

[royal mica]

It is now working so

[restive turret]

I love when setting Footprint as defualt it has the role of 173 too

😭

[young phoenix]

is there a command to clear the server console?

[upper vapor]

clear

[young phoenix]

doesn't work

[upper vapor]

cls maybe

[young phoenix]

what is the difference between Started and starting, or spawned and spawning?

[young phoenix]

didn't work either

[upper vapor]

Ing runs before (usually means you can cancel), ed runs after the action

[young phoenix]

so is -ing only to cancel an action?

or does it also provide more information?

[upper vapor]

Check the event args

Events should give you some context

[young phoenix]

does setting IsAllowed to false cancel it?

[upper vapor]

Yep

[young phoenix]

thnx

[upper vapor]

Np

[young phoenix]

does it cancel on the next tick or immediately?

[restive turret]

what do you mean by that

[upper vapor]

canceling the event prevents the base game code from executing instantly
i'm not sure how you'd cancel something on the next frame (it's already happened)

[young phoenix]

well you're setting a bool to a different value and not firing an event or returning, and I thought that the function would run every tick until it is finished, so before running in the next tick it would check if the bools would be true or false

I guess I misunderstood how it works

[upper vapor]

1. the event args are created
2. the event is invoked with the event
3. the game checks if IsAllowed is false
   since the event args are reference types, you can set parameters which will be reflected at the call site
   the event itself is just an action, it doesn't return anything

hopefully that clears it up

[young phoenix]

hmm I see

[upper vapor]

i think you described a coroutine use-case here
not really what events do
but coroutines are pretty cool (and not limited to waiting for something to complete)

[young phoenix]

yeah I thought that it would be like the source 2013 sdk where you can set a "think" function that would get called every tick until it was overridden

idk why lol

[buoyant oyster]

is there an event that triggers whenever a player gains health or hume shield?

[grand flower]

nope, you have to patch it in yourself

Is there a way to check if a player is opting out of SCP pick

[hearty shard]

has to be

[grand flower]

yeah just found it in the scp preferences stuff

i kinda thought it'd just be on the Player class

would be nice to have it there

[unique crane]

@random scaffold No issues on my side (a is logged when Escaping is trigger)

[young phoenix]

how can I disable the game from setting roles? do I set IsAllowed to false on the playerchangingrole event?

[static meteor]

I believe so

[young phoenix]

I want to determine the roles on serverroundstarted

[young phoenix]

alr

[young phoenix]

guys does a plugin get reloaded (and thus all of its memory get wiped) when a round restarts or does the data persist?

[hearty shard]

It stays

Unless you have it set to soft restart server

Then everything is fully restarted

(such as rnr in console)

[young phoenix]

roundrestart (rr) doesn't clear it right?

[hearty shard]

it shouldnt no

its just a new round

[young phoenix]

hmm then I guess it's an issue on my end

thanks

[teal junco]

Thank you, this worked!

[arctic zinc]

I will can get ASN-player with "OnPlayerPreAuthenticating"?

[warped prairie]

hey, need a tiny bit of help. Im having an issue with server specific settings when trying to use it as a spectator.

right now im doing this:

    private static void ServerOnSettingValueReceived(ReferenceHub hub, ServerSpecificSettingBase @base)
    {
        CL.Error("ServerOnSettingValueReceived called");
     ... ...

but that error will never appear in my console so im assuming the ServerOnSettingValueReceived just isnt being called for spectator?

[static meteor]

It gets called when your a spectator

[warped prairie]

but im not reciving it back in my console. what would cause it not to call when im a spectator but work fine when im any other class?

[static meteor]

It is registered right?

[warped prairie]

yup.

[carmine prawn]

ssss for spectator?

[warped prairie]

yea thats what im trying to get atm

[carmine prawn]

https://github.com/HubertMoszka/Server-Specific-Settings-System/blob/cf8577269ad3f5867a135ce4c443fb84b5d8488d/SSKeybindSetting.cs#L64

check

/// <param name="preventInteractionOnGui">Prevents key from being pressed when any popup window is active. Recommended to leave as "true" to prevent misinput.</param>

[warped prairie]

mm ok. ill look into that

[warped prairie]

this worked perfectly. Thank you sm

[random scaffold]

um

but here nothing

bruh

public override void OnPlayerEscaping(PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev)
{
    Logger.Info("escaping");
}

[worthy rune]

what plugins do you have installed

[random scaffold]

exiled

[worthy rune]

try removing it and try again

[random scaffold]

customevents handler labapi in exiled big plugin

try later then clearly labapi

[worthy rune]

not sure i understand what you are saying

[random scaffold]

customeventshandler registered in exiled plugin

[worthy rune]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues

[worthy rune]

what does it have todo with this

[unique crane]

We aren't responsible for their patches

If you want to use it, you will have to remove exiled

Dedicated or create game

[random scaffold]

exiled moment

lol

[random scaffold]

when will be added hcz049gate and hcz049newgate?

in door name

[unique crane]

I have 0 clue what you mean by that

[grand flower]

Some rooms/doors are missing names ig

[random scaffold]

^

[unique crane]

Okay but what is 049newgate?

There is no new 049 gate

[random scaffold]

173 gate in hcz049

[grand flower]

Where's is the player's armor visual handled? Found WearableSync

[glass karma]

does the disconnect event fire on any reason for disconnecting? banning, kicking, etc

I know they have their specific events too, but I'd like to be able to do something on disconnect without needing to check in every single one

[random scaffold]

cool name 173 gate

[heady turret]

why custom info now have symbols limit??

[random scaffold]

because that need

[unique crane]

Custom info code is unchanged from 14.0

[heady turret]

then why if custominfo have more symbols than 399 its dont see?

[unique crane]

No one changed this regex

Its been like that before

[heady turret]

like in 14.0 we can use too many symbols in custominfo and [ ] in 14.1 we dont

[unique crane]

As I said, there was no change to custom info in 14.1 except for making validation methods visible for server

So you see whats wrong with it

[upper vapor]

Not sure why you need 400+ characters for the custom info anyway

[royal mica]

People use the Hint system to display additional info about a player

[hearty shard]

errrrrr

yes but

400+ characters?

[royal mica]

maybe they want to play bad apple on player info

[hearty shard]

😭

[royal mica]

Also it is kinda inconvinient that formatting is also accounted for the 400

(not that you would need raw 400 chars displayed)

[hearty shard]

i mean its this amount

you dont rly need that

unless ur overriding every detail of a player

then adding some custom stuff thats 3x what basegame does

@heady turret wtf do you need that much characters for

[heady turret]

that contain also html tags <color> and etc

[hearty shard]

yes but wtf r u doing

r u making someones tag a gradient or what

[heady turret]

describe player visual, their weapons, their health staT

RP

[hearty shard]

so every detail of a player

😭

yeah okay

makes some sense ig

but yeah limits always been there afaik

[icy knoll]

me when custom info

[unique crane]

You can put part of it (like health) after player's name

[worn gull]

Hi! Is it possible to add here custom symbols, if yes how?

[royal mica]

Yes, two ways:

• Harmony patch RemoteAdmin.Communication.RaPlayerList function GetPrefix
• Decompile the RaPlayerList, copy everything into a new class and override it like this:

                CommunicationProcessor.ServerCommunication[0] = new CustomRaPlayerList();

Second is cursed and might break next update, but it's harmonyless

[fresh zenith]

just don't use exiled

[icy knoll]

me when every sl server still uses exiled

[fresh zenith]

yea its understandable tho. NWAPI was ass ngl

And until servers fully switch to LabAPI it will take some time

[icy knoll]

exiled will be around forever atp

because some old plugins still work

[restive turret]

20.0

[icy knoll]

and those are only on exiled as NWAPI was shit

[random scaffold]

port big plugin to labapi will be hard

so not

[upper vapor]

Hey
Don't insult my pal NWAPI
It helped me execute all my patches more easily

[random scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-blue-archive-kiyosumi-akira-cute-cutecutecutecutecute-gif-2165316117835791871

[fresh zenith]

and also made our brains go boom trying to make a plugin.

[fresh zenith]

cute gif

[upper vapor]

No need for an API if you have the base game and Harmony

[fresh zenith]

welp. fair

[random scaffold]

when framework for doom?

[fresh zenith]

No need for the base game and harmony if you don't code an plugin trollhd

[obsidian wharf]

[young phoenix]

how can I make a multiline description for a key in my plugin config?

[random scaffold]

key?

[young phoenix]

I mean property

when I used \n it gave me yaml errors

[hearty shard]

yeah cuz # is required for it to be considered a comment

and \n does not generate a # on the new line created

[young phoenix]

so should I place \n# or is there a better way?

[hearty shard]

try and see idk

[young phoenix]

is there a way to give players a specific candy or will it give a random one when I give them SCP-330?

[royal mica]

There is a givecandy command, you can look at the impl there, also there is a wrapper for it I think?M

[hearty shard]

public static Scp330Bag GrantCandy(
      this ReferenceHub hub,
      CandyKindID candyId,
      ItemAddReason itemAddReason)
    {
      bool flag = false;
      Scp330Bag bag;
      if (!Scp330Bag.TryGetBag(hub, out bag))
      {
        bag = hub.inventory.ServerAddItem(ItemType.SCP330, itemAddReason) as Scp330Bag;
        flag = true;
      }
      if ((UnityEngine.Object) bag == (UnityEngine.Object) null)
        return (Scp330Bag) null;
      if (flag)
      {
        bag.Candies = new List<CandyKindID>() { candyId };
        bag.ServerRefreshBag();
      }
      else if (bag.TryAddSpecific(candyId))
        bag.ServerRefreshBag();
      return bag;
    }

player.ReferenceHub.GrantCandy

[young phoenix]

thanks

[worn gull]

I did the Harmony patch but then there are no names just ...

[royal mica]

You need to check your client console, cause that could mean that the serialization failed

[plain gazelle]

How can i use NetworkServer.SpawnObject without having a player to reference their Connection?
Can i reference the servers connection?

[random scaffold]

NetworkServer.Spawn

lol

[plain gazelle]

oh

lol

what is the difference to SpawnObject o.O

[royal mica]

huh

[slate flume]

Pro tip, trying to set someone's role at the beginning of the round WILL crash your server

[random scaffold]

joke

[royal mica]

I need to learn how to read

Look at code, you can just throw null in SpawnObject as well

[plain gazelle]

Hm, for my use case i am saving the "Creator" of an object as a value of 'Player'
What should i do if i want to save noone in specific here, and instead just the server?
-# Or should i rewrite it to not need a Player saved ._.

[upper vapor]

If you meant to add custom "lines":
https://github.com/Axwabo/CommandSystem/wiki/Options

[upper vapor]

You could set it to null

NetworkServer.Spawn spawns the object for every connection

[plain gazelle]

Thank you

[upper vapor]

Np

[celest thorn]

is this like https://github.com/aikar/commands

but on SL

lol

The structure looks the same

[brazen dune]

Wait

There is a problem in snake game, cuz if you play too much it overflows the AutosyncMessage Buffer when player joins, we also believe it's causing lags on servers

[2025-05-22 14:53:44.204 +03:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentException: Destination array was not long enough. Check destIndex and length, and the array's lower bounds
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.204 +03:00] [STDOUT] Parameter name: destinationArray
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.204 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Array.Copy (System.Array sourceArray, System.Int32 sourceIndex, System.Array destinationArray, System.Int32 destinationIndex, System.Int32 length) [0x000cb] in <13c0c460649d4ce49f991e2c222fa635>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.204 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at System.Array.Copy (System.Array sourceArray, System.Array destinationArray, System.Int32 length) [0x0002c] in <13c0c460649d4ce49f991e2c222fa635>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncMessage..ctor (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, InventorySystem.Items.ItemIdentifier itemId) [0x0004e] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncWriterBase.Send () [0x00010] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncWriterBase.Dispose () [0x00000] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Autosync.AutosyncItem.ServerSendTargetRpc (ReferenceHub receiver, System.Action`1[T] extraData) [0x00020] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.ChaosKeycardItem.ServerOnNewPlayerConnected (ReferenceHub hub) [0x00007] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.205 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.KeycardItem.<OnTemplateReloaded>b__46_0 (ReferenceHub hub) [0x00008] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.206 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[ReferenceHub].invoke_void_T(ReferenceHub)
[2025-05-22 14:53:44.206 +03:00] [STDOUT]   at ReferenceHub.Start () [0x00009] in <2343be033e9f4e37923f780ece756d8e>:0

[static meteor]

Probably should report it as a bug
#1330097028088201247 message

[worn gull]

I want add a badge or something next to the name or the other badges, for example if a player is in light put a wrench emoji next to it. (Just a full random example xd)

[upper vapor]

Oh

Well yeah that should be a fairly simple patch

Can you show your code?

[upper vapor]

Similar but attributes aren't required

I think they're more convenient though

Not sure if the framework you mentioned has a feature similar to resolvers

And it most definitely doesn't have RA options

I'm impressed and a bit annoyed at the same time cuz this #1371227450025050123 is much more extensible compared to my RA options implementation
Though when I made RA options, dummy actions didn't exist yet

[royal mica]

Seomthing like this?

[plain gazelle]

Is there any way to access the server name as it appears on the server list?
I only know of Server.ServerListName but it appears empty, or maybe i did something wrong ._.

[hearty shard]

when do you access it

[plain gazelle]

hm, seems its something from my team, not exactly sure when it fires

[hearty shard]

you cant do it that early probably

[plain gazelle]

hm okay

[upper vapor]

You could check how ConfigurationLoader does it

[hearty shard]

Huh?

[upper vapor]

Isn't it an entry in the gamellay config

[hearty shard]

oh

yeah

[upper vapor]

ConfigSomething

Can't recall the class name exactly

[hearty shard]

yeah i was gonna say ConfigurationLoader is for labapi

[slim rose]

What type of RA implementation did you do ?
And when i see a video with this module I immediately thought I could do something cool with it.

[upper vapor]

It uses request data

So it's limited to 4 buttons

I made it like

2 years ago

Never realized the potential of dummy actions until I saw your plugin

It's pretty cool

[slim rose]

oh yeah i see

[young phoenix]

guys why does player.AddItem() not work in OnPlayerSpawned event? does the class inventory overwrite it?

[slim rose]

Ahah thx.

[upper vapor]

Use the GrantingLoadout event

[plain gazelle]

When i delete a gameobject using NetworkServer.Destroy it doesnt seem to actually be destroyed..?

I put a regular BoxCollider on the gameobject and after the NetworkServer.Destroy call
Raycasts can still hit the collider, and scripts on the object stay running.....

[young phoenix]

how can I find this event, only thing I can find is OnPlayerReceivedLoadout

or is that what you mean

[worn gull]

Yes (when you replay please ping me xd)

[static meteor]

It is probably that

[upper vapor]

Probably that

[young phoenix]

alr thnx

[upper vapor]

Then you probably haven't called the method on the correct game object

Is it a networked object?

You should probably use Object.Destroy for those without a network identity

[restive turret]

networked object?
use NetworkServer.Destroy
normal object?
Use Object.Destroy (specifically from UnityEngine namespace)

[grand flower]

our dedi player keeps disconnecting leading to weird bugged servers ;-;

so im just patching out the Disconnect() functions for it

tired of that bug

[wheat flower]

bitch thats mine

https://tenor.com/view/unc-tweaking-gif-3519799952886106984

[thin shuttle]

Just add tag and this very rapidly decrease

[hearty shard]

what

[thin shuttle]

<color <size ect..

[hearty shard]

add tag is more

[thin shuttle]

Take a lot of char

[hearty shard]

yes

oh you mean increase

not decrease

[thin shuttle]

So yeah 400 isn't a lot

[hearty shard]

wrong choice of words smh

[thin shuttle]

Anyways kinda no happy mood so don't really care

[plain gazelle]

I used LabAPIs RoundStarted to execute my script.
Your Init is called too early or something.... MER wont spawn my cube this early :v

[wheat flower]

its called when the plugin is enabled

the map hasnt loaded at that point

lmao

it literally says in the doc

"called when the plugin is first enabled"

my bad bro, idk why im acting like this 💀

[plain gazelle]

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[thin shuttle]

If their conflict between exiled and LabAPI you can tell is so we can fix it

[thin shuttle]

Just make a bug report and we fix it

[restive turret]

just skill issue

[tulip kiln]

Reworked my speaker system to use batches with duplicate controller ids and it works like a charm

Thank you guys 🙏

[royal mica]

I've noticed a very interesting bug

not sure where to report as it is VERY niche

[unique crane]

?

[royal mica]

but Chaos keycards which are originate from Dummies does not update the SnakeEngine

like score and length stays 5-0

Keycards from real players gets updated

[young phoenix]

how can I clear someones inventory?

[grand flower]

Player.ClearInventory

[young phoenix]

thanks

[hearty shard]

i swear dog when attacking would go visible

have i gone schizo

is that not how it used to be

[young phoenix]

is there a way to lock a specific door on the map e.g. surface gate

[grand flower]

Door.Get()

check the overloads

Question to NW, is there any reason why the dedicated player should be able to be disconnected?

I completely patched it out, just making sure I'm not breaking anything doing so. But so far it doesn't seem to be the case.

It doesn't get disconnected on round restart

or on server shutdown

Wouldn't it just be easier if you just made it not disconnect at all

[unique crane]

SnakeEngine is purely client side

so dummies dont do anything on it

[royal mica]

Nono, I mean the Dummy drops the keycard

I pick it up

[unique crane]

Oooooh

[royal mica]

I play and it doesn't get updated

[worthy rune]

pretty sure it disconnecting is a mirror bug, not something NW specifically coded in

[grand flower]

yes and no

hang on actually

oh yeah nvm, thought NW wrote the connection that the dedi uses

[hearty shard]

Is Mirror the reason SL has a dedicated player

[celest thorn]

Players.Remove(ev.Player);

Is it normal that if i do this the player doesn't get removed from the list in the event PlayerLeftEventArgs because normally it works except here

[hearty shard]

or is that SL moment

[worthy rune]

sort of a SL moment

[celest thorn]

mirror doesn't need it lol

sl moment

[hearty shard]

also

Intercom

public bool CheckPlayer(ReferenceHub hub)
    {
      PlayerRoleBase currentRole = hub.roleManager.CurrentRole;
      if (!this.CheckRange(hub) || !(currentRole as HumanRole).VoiceModule.ServerIsSending || VoiceChatMutes.IsMuted(hub, true))
        return false;
      PlayerUsingIntercomEventArgs ev = new PlayerUsingIntercomEventArgs(hub, Intercom.State);
      LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.OnUsingIntercom(ev);
      return ev.IsAllowed;
    }

Make it possible to have non human role trigger (with event ofc)

[grand flower]

Mostly annoyed that the host player can spawn if you're not careful, and the whole bag of issues that happen when the dedi player is disconnected

moving, reloading, interacting, talking, a ton of stuff randomly breaks

and sometimes not for everyone heh

[celest thorn]

yea btw like any clue on this why the Bean for the player changes somehow when in the PlayerLeft and is different?

[grand flower]

it should

Although there's a lot of bugs with Player

[celest thorn]

yea i know

[grand flower]

Stuff like players trying to be added multiple times to the list or something

[celest thorn]

but it doesn't if its disconnecting

[grand flower]

I'd use the userid maybe

[celest thorn]

thats not good

lol

[grand flower]

Why not

It won't change

[celest thorn]

[2025-05-22 19:54:03.014 +00:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
[2025-05-22 19:54:03.014 +00:00] [STDOUT] at UnityEngine.Bindings.ThrowHelper.ThrowNullReferenceException (System.Object obj) [0x00018] in

    if(Players.Count > 0)
        Players.RemoveAll(x => x.GameObject == null);

If i even try to do this it explodes

so i just don't know

[celest thorn]

yes because i need to do Player.Get()

all of the time

and its just annoying

[grand flower]

Player.GameObject is just a shortcut to Player.ReferenceHub.gameObject

since ReferenceHub is a NetworkBehaviour I'm guessing it's null

NW should really make GameObject nullable in this case and do this.ReferenceHub?.gameObject

[celest thorn]

hmm so i should check if the referencehub is null

[grand flower]

yup

you shouldn't hold players that way tbh, but checking that should fix your issue

[hearty shard]

huh.

PlayerRoleBase currentRole = hub.roleManager.CurrentRole;
      if (!this.CheckRange(hub) || !(currentRole as HumanRole).VoiceModule.ServerIsSending || VoiceChatMutes.IsMuted(hub, true))
        return false;

am i stupid

[grand flower]

did you write that or

[hearty shard]

no its basegame

OH

IK

[grand flower]

decompiler probs

[hearty shard]

nono

it cant be null

[grand flower]

it makes pattern matching funky

[worthy rune]

im confused about what you guys are talking about are you removing a player from a list inside the PlayerLeft event?

[hearty shard]

cuz CheckRange checks for HumanRole

i was so confused why intercom didnt throw null ref

💀

[grand flower]

seems like that's what they're doing

holding a list of Player

[worthy rune]

i dont think we override equality on the player wrapper, so im guessing they must be adding back the player somewhere

[teal junco]

pvt. dedicated server

[celest thorn]

why shouldn't i do it like that?

that should be fine

[grand flower]

the whole Player.Get() adding to the list if it isn't there is a BAD design decision imo

You screw up somehow and you end up with a ghost player

[worthy rune]

oh thats known about

yes its going to be fixed

[grand flower]

good to know

it's the bane of our existance atm

[worthy rune]

player should be the only one that does it iirc

[celest thorn]

so this is an issue?

[worthy rune]

im not sure how it relates to your issue

if i understand it correctly

[celest thorn]

Like my issue

i have a list

when the event playerleft gets called and i try to remove the player

it says its removed

but in reality its not

[worthy rune]

yeah thats unrelated

[celest thorn]

but still this is strange lol

[worthy rune]

i think you are adding the player back somehow

[celest thorn]

Im not

i checked that

[worthy rune]

did you try logging when ever you add a player

[celest thorn]

yes

i can try again lol

[worthy rune]

btw your using the Player wrapper and not reference hub correct

[celest thorn]

Yes im using the player wrapper

[worthy rune]

alright, ill take alook into it then

[celest thorn]

yep its not getting added its like staying there

because when i join back it sanitize itself

removing the null players

this only happens tho on the left others work fine

[grand flower]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/144 this should help