#plugins-dev-chat | SCP: Secret Laboratory | Page 20

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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So i need to do smth like SpeakerToy.ControllerId = Id + 1?

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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have an internal id system

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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brisk matrix So i need to do smth like `SpeakerToy.ControllerId = Id + 1`?

something like that

teal junco May 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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teal junco have an internal id system

for me i just ID the speaker with a private int and increment it each time i make a new speaker

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:05 PM

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is it not executing after an OperationCanceledException?

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Cause you're kinda telling it not to catch that one

brisk matrix May 13, 2025, 9:06 PM

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Thanks it works

terse bone May 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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grand flower is it not executing after an OperationCanceledException?

there is some code after that try catch and it doesn't get executed

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but if i remove that check then it works

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this works

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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terse bone May 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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oh, i didn't change method name

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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love the automod

terse bone May 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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lmao

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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but yeah that should work

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Unless I'm mistaken when in that scenario won't catch OperationCanceledException and you'll end up halting your code

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and since it's an awaitable i'm guessing you got hit with a silent exception

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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@mild ice any idea whats going wrong with auto mod here, seeing this alot again

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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wonder if it's the dollar sign

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$interpolation is cool

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hmm

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.Error

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it's dotToken

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mild ice May 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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worthy rune <@574348751506898944> any idea whats going wrong with auto mod here, seeing this...

Yeah it's picking up tlds again kek
In this case: .to

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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maybe, although i thought stuff inside ``` should be excluded mostly

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anyway to exluded it inside code blocks

mild ice May 13, 2025, 9:17 PM

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To be honest, Automod is in a bit of a state right now and I currently lack the access to fix it
Once some things are sorted out behind the scenes I'll definitely look at making sure false detections are properly addressed, in the meantime I apologise for the inconvenience!

worthy rune May 13, 2025, 9:18 PM

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No worries, thanks for looking into it either way

terse bone May 13, 2025, 9:20 PM

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grand flower Unless I'm mistaken `when` in that scenario won't catch `OperationCanceledExcept...

okay, somehow i thought it would catch that OperationCanceledException and wouldn't execute the code in catch block..

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silly me

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:22 PM

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does anyone know what the branch is? i put in Labapi-beta but its not showing my server

static meteor May 13, 2025, 9:22 PM

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Try early server build

grand flower May 13, 2025, 9:23 PM

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anything like this in the server logs?
[2025-05-13 14:04:48.493 -07:00] Your server won't be visible on the public server list -

unique crane May 13, 2025, 9:23 PM

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rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:23 PM

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unique crane

ill try this then ill check my logs

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:26 PM

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grand flower anything like this in the server logs? `[2025-05-13 14:04:48.493 -07:00] Your s...

there was nothing in my server logs

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 9:26 PM

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rose bridge does anyone know what the branch is? i put in Labapi-beta but its not showing my...

Are you on the beta?

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On client

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Or just server

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Both have to be same version

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:27 PM

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i think my steam has been on the public beta since it released. unless if it updated today

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 9:27 PM

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rose bridge i think my steam has been on the public beta since it released. unless if it upd...

Updated 19 hours ago

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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i think i was still on my server

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i had Labapi-beta in before then i switched to early-server-build

unique crane May 13, 2025, 9:30 PM

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You have early=server-build

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not early-server-build

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:30 PM

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rose bridge i had Labapi-beta in before then i switched to early-server-build

i fixed the spelling error but my server doesnt show up still

icy knoll May 13, 2025, 9:32 PM

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rose bridge i fixed the spelling error but my server doesnt show up still

did you reinstall?

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:32 PM

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let me do that

icy knoll May 13, 2025, 9:33 PM

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yeah it wont do anything without reinstalling

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bruh

rose bridge May 13, 2025, 9:35 PM

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that was it dogobruh

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:49 PM

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isnt the texttoy in the assembly ?

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i cant find it for some reason

restive turret May 13, 2025, 9:49 PM

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unique crane

Me when I can no longer update my plugins cus the update release at 11 pm

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😭

restive turret May 13, 2025, 9:49 PM

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snow ruin isnt the texttoy in the assembly ?

Should be under AdminToys namespace

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:49 PM

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restive turret Should be under AdminToys namespace

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i hate

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why does it send as a file

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its not there

icy knoll May 13, 2025, 9:50 PM

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snow ruin why does it send as a file

because you have it encoded in a way discord doesnt accept

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:50 PM

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icy knoll because you have it encoded in a way discord doesnt accept

was working 20 mins ago

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smh discord

restive turret May 13, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Search via DnSpyEx

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Idk

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I literally in bed

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 9:54 PM

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snow ruin why does it send as a file

Discord is broken rn

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Images dont load

hearty shard May 13, 2025, 9:54 PM

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icy knoll because you have it encoded in a way discord doesnt accept

Or or

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Discord moment

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(its discord)

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:55 PM

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thank god

icy knoll May 13, 2025, 9:55 PM

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it is discord

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yeah

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i just found that out

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everyone started sending images

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and having the issue

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but the encoding part is a factor!

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:56 PM

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wouhou found texttoy

terse bone May 13, 2025, 9:57 PM

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funny

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why doesn't it work

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it's just a ss

snow ruin May 13, 2025, 9:58 PM

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terse bone why doesn't it work

tell me its sarcastic

celest thorn May 13, 2025, 9:59 PM

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There's a way that i could actually make the reload force without having any ammo, so you drain still the ammo but on reload you don't need any ammo

teal junco May 13, 2025, 10:18 PM

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does anyone have a screenshot of the text toy

terse bone May 13, 2025, 10:23 PM

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yes

idle lion May 13, 2025, 10:23 PM

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oh god

faint sparrow May 13, 2025, 10:49 PM

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why

restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:02 PM

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😭

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Wait

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Does it can read and use urls as pics too?

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:04 PM

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something broke i think

restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:05 PM

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I rather use this pic than the above

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Fear

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:06 PM

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i remade that top one in higher resolution :3

idle lion May 13, 2025, 11:06 PM

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~~show them~~

restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:06 PM

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No pls

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It should belong to the server hosts group

grand flower May 13, 2025, 11:06 PM

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are you spawning a shit ton of primitives to make an image

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:07 PM

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nope, TextToy

grand flower May 13, 2025, 11:07 PM

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how

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:07 PM

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restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:07 PM

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<img url=linkhere/> ?

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Or smth idk

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:08 PM

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grand flower how

i'm parsing .bmp colormap to TMP

restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Its a TMPText thing

grand flower May 13, 2025, 11:09 PM

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huh

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interesting

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now give us the option to render images in hints NW mmLul

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:10 PM

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each individual pixel row in the image is a separate argument for TextToy and Format contains all these arguments/lines with newline's in between

restive turret May 13, 2025, 11:11 PM

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Line count?

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*string len

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:16 PM

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wdym?

teal junco May 13, 2025, 11:26 PM

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terse bone wdym?

how long is the string

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also can you upload it as a .txt just for demonstration purposes

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either one will do

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:26 PM

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here's the unity one

📎 unity.txt

teal junco May 13, 2025, 11:27 PM

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terse bone here's the unity one

547 kb aint no way bro

terse bone May 13, 2025, 11:27 PM

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not even the biggest file

terse bone May 14, 2025, 12:14 AM

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I did some tests and going above 99k pixels causes some distortion to image

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wheat flower May 14, 2025, 12:16 AM

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how do you convert image to text again?

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i forgor

terse bone May 14, 2025, 12:16 AM

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terse bone I did some tests and going above 99k pixels causes some distortion to image

if you combine multiple texttoys then higher resolutions are possible

wheat flower May 14, 2025, 12:16 AM

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wasnt there like a website or something

terse bone May 14, 2025, 12:18 AM

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wheat flower how do you convert image to text again?

custom program, it get's pixel data from image in .bmp format and creates text image just by coloring this char ▆ using richtext

wheat flower May 14, 2025, 12:31 AM

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terse bone custom program, it get's pixel data from image in .bmp format and creates text i...

thanks for idea, just made it in 10 mins

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https://tenor.com/view/northwood-sl-scpsl-939-scp939-gif-26396517

Tenor

terse bone May 14, 2025, 1:54 AM

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upper vapor May 14, 2025, 3:53 AM

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Oh you're spawning a pickup, I missed that
You need call ServerSetInstanceAmmo with the serial of the pickup

unique crane May 14, 2025, 5:39 AM

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terse bone if you combine multiple texttoys then higher resolutions are possible

So you just do like Minecraft images from multiple maps

heady turret May 14, 2025, 5:56 AM

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unique crane So you just do like Minecraft images from multiple maps

where can i get dependecies for TextToy?

unique crane May 14, 2025, 5:57 AM

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Wdym

heady turret May 14, 2025, 5:57 AM

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unique crane May 14, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Have you updated the dlo

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Dll

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To the newest one?

heady turret May 14, 2025, 6:00 AM

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unique crane To the newest one?

Yes, i update labapi

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:00 AM

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No, you need to do it via assembly csharp

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Wrapper is not released yet

heady turret May 14, 2025, 6:01 AM

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unique crane No, you need to do it via assembly csharp

where i can get that updated?

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Well download the newest server branch

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And put the assembly into your dependency

heady turret May 14, 2025, 6:05 AM

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thx

heady turret May 14, 2025, 6:35 AM

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unique crane And put the assembly into your dependency

what the hell

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:36 AM

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I dont speak russian

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or whatever is that

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Have you publicized the assembly by chance?

heady turret May 14, 2025, 6:37 AM

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unique crane Have you publicized the assembly by chance?

Ambiguity between 'ServerSpecificSettingsSync.ServerOnSettingValueReceived' and 'ServerSpecificSettingsSync.ServerOnSettingValueReceived'

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:37 AM

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Ahaaa

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Use different publicized

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for the assembly

grand flower May 14, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Any chance of dummies getting unique ids instead of just ID_Dummy

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Kinda screws with existing code

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To the point where I have an extension method that returns $"{dummyHub.connectionToClient.connectionId}@dummy" as an id

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:47 AM

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They have unique player ids

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like those in brackets after the name

grand flower May 14, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Yes but any code using UserId breaks with them

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Which is what is used for 99% of code anyway

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Then assign them unique id

grand flower May 14, 2025, 6:56 AM

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I guess, but the idea was to avoid writing dummy-specific checks when they pretty much are full fledged players in all other respects

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Which would make them even better for QA testing

unique crane May 14, 2025, 6:58 AM

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grand flower I guess, but the idea was to avoid writing dummy-specific checks when they prett...

Okay but like, what are you doing with the user id?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 6:59 AM

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Storing data using the userid as the key

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Works fine for players, dummies break because they all have the same id

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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grand flower Yes but any code using UserId breaks with them

just use Id

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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grand flower Storing data using the userid as the key

same

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you can make 999 id

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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You mean PlayerId?

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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Player.Id

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yes

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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Bad idea

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:03 AM

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just spawn dummy with specific id

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its easy

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:04 AM

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yes, but I don't want to have different code between players and dummies, that's the point heh

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:04 AM

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grand flower yes, but I don't want to have different code between players and dummies, that's...

then just change userid for npc

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you can how i know

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:05 AM

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that would break the rest of the game

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since it expects ID_Dummy for some checks

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it's why I'm asking NW if they can fix it :^)

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bit of an oversight imo

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:06 AM

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Well but you arent storing it in a file or something, arent you?

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Wouldnt make sense for dummy

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:07 AM

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I'm not no

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But even if I was dummies really shouldn't break it

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Considering it seems you meant for them to basically just be players since they can do everything a player can

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:08 AM

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That is not true

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They are not players

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:08 AM

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Which is great for QA, the UserId issue is pretty much the only grievance I have with them

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:08 AM

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Yeah but they are meant for QA

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Not to store data about them

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:08 AM

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I'm not storing data about them

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Not long term, just while they're alive, I need to attach things by UserId

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:09 AM

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Use the ReferenceHub then

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:09 AM

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Using the Reference Hub as a key is a bad idea

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:09 AM

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Why?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:09 AM

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If it gets destroyed, or if I have to hold data regarding a player even if they reconnect

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Which while it won't happen with dummies obviously, the point of my request is to not have to write code that's different between dummies and players

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Right now I have to either do dummy checks or just make my own userid for dummies

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which means more code to write for dummies that won't exist in normal gameplay anyway heh

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(and while I could patch it, I'd prefer not to since the more patches I have the bigger the risk of things exploding between updates)

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 7:11 AM

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unique crane Why?

when someone add ai for dummy?

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shooting / picking up items or just for scps

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:15 AM

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grand flower (and while I could patch it, I'd prefer not to since the more patches I have the...

I would use the dummies only for testing then

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Use Debug version to keep in dummies

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and use Release to ignore them

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:15 AM

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I guess, wouldn't change the fact I'd have to write more code to differentiate them

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:15 AM

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if(Player.IsDummy)?

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Sorry, but they are different from a player

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:16 AM

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The only thing really making them different from players atp is the UserId, because otherwise they don't differ

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they'll trigger the same events and all, which is great for QA testing, just that being forced to differentiate them purely because of the UserId is a bit of a pain point

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Assign them a new one on spawn

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No patches required

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:18 AM

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Them not having the ID_Dummy UserId is fine?

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:19 AM

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I doubt its used somewhere else in the code

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They have unique network connection object too

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:22 AM

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sounds good then, ty

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:24 AM

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Yeah every base game code uses IsDummy property

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Feel free to change the id as you wish

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I guess

heady turret May 14, 2025, 7:50 AM

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unique crane Yeah every base game code uses IsDummy property

is there in text toy chars limit?

unique crane May 14, 2025, 7:50 AM

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65534 chars for the base string

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And 65534 for each argument

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Maybe few chars less for the args as they are wrapped by the synclist stuff

random scaffold May 14, 2025, 10:12 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/noko-kanoko-anime-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-1127032685120984755

Tenor

brisk matrix May 14, 2025, 11:09 AM

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Is there a proper way to remove a SpeakerToy once it has finished playing sound? I didn't seem to find any events

agile oasis May 14, 2025, 11:16 AM

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is it possible to have a different panel for keycard access for pedestals ?
If I put different DoorPermissionFlags visually it won't be recognizable.

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 11:17 AM

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agile oasis is it possible to have a different panel for keycard access for pedestals ? If I...

you need custom keycard

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to change the permissions

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oh

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you mean change the pedestals required permissions

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uhh

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not possible i dont think

agile oasis May 14, 2025, 11:17 AM

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yeah, it visually shows predefined in prefab

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well, I will workaround with hint then

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 11:27 AM

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terse bone custom program, it get's pixel data from image in .bmp format and creates text i...

you could also load non-bmp files if you load it into a Texture2D

unique crane May 14, 2025, 11:35 AM

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ive got code somewhere

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idk where

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Maybe I can find it

terse bone May 14, 2025, 11:50 AM

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upper vapor you could also load non-bmp files if you load it into a Texture2D

i would have to do it like that yea?
hm, ig it saves some time

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 11:50 AM

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File.ReadAllBytes

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and done

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hopefully it has a stream overload but i'm not sure

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and then you can resize the image in-memory without modifying the "uploaded" image

terse bone May 14, 2025, 11:52 AM

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upper vapor hopefully it has a stream overload but i'm not sure

sadly it doesn't

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 11:53 AM

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rip

terse bone May 14, 2025, 11:54 AM

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upper vapor and then you can resize the image in-memory without modifying the "uploaded" ima...

in some scenarios i will still use external software for that, eg. color quantization

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but it is a nice feature

worn gull May 14, 2025, 11:56 AM

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The TextToy which category?

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 11:57 AM

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worn gull The TextToy which category?

UI, most likely

worn gull May 14, 2025, 11:57 AM

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Not really 😄

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 11:57 AM

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huh

unique crane May 14, 2025, 11:57 AM

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Default

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for client

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Viewmodel for server

worn gull May 14, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Thanks

unique crane May 14, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Unless server got updated which I doubt

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I had this issue during testing where the text disappeared when looking at sky

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So I changed it to different layer and it worked fine

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But then it got merged and skybox has changed meanwhile

worn gull May 14, 2025, 12:05 PM

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    public static bool Raycast(Player player, out RaycastHit hit) => Raycast(player.Camera.position, player.Camera.forward, out hit);

    public static bool Raycast(Vector3 origin, Vector3 direction, out RaycastHit hit) => Physics.Raycast(origin, direction, out hit, 100f, ToolGunMask.Mask);

    private static readonly CachedLayerMask ToolGunMask = new("Default", "Door", "CCTV", "Viewmodel", "UI", "Phantom");```
Still can't detect it bruh, Am I doing something wrong?

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 12:05 PM

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UI can't be raycasted

worn gull May 14, 2025, 12:05 PM

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Sad

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So I can't detect it with raycast

unique crane May 14, 2025, 12:06 PM

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It can?

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You just have to enable it on the UI

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 12:06 PM

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unique crane You just have to enable it on the UI

what

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you mean GraphicRaycaster?

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in that case, ye

unique crane May 14, 2025, 12:07 PM

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I guess

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 12:08 PM

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actually no

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that would be for the client

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does the text actually get created as a TMPro object on the server?

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try adding an Image to the canvas instead

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the text might not get raycasted if you hit outside of the actual text mesh

unique crane May 14, 2025, 12:10 PM

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upper vapor does the text actually get created as a TMPro object on the server?

Yes

carmine prawn May 14, 2025, 12:51 PM

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💀

teal junco May 14, 2025, 12:52 PM

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brisk matrix Is there a proper way to remove a SpeakerToy once it has finished playing sound?...

integrate into your coroutine

carmine prawn May 14, 2025, 12:57 PM

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rendering video frames to TextToy in real time is challenging

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having multiple TextToys rendering video frames at the same time can have a lot of stuttering

brisk matrix May 14, 2025, 1:07 PM

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teal junco integrate into your coroutine

Yeah thx already do

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 1:08 PM

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carmine prawn

hey patrick

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:11 PM

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I said I wouldnt switch to LabAPI but thinking about how similar they are I might at least make half my plugins in it.

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and just make the exiled version use the exiled entrypoint or something

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 1:16 PM

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teal junco and just make the exiled version use the exiled entrypoint or something

that's what i do for all my new plugins

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the plugin entry point just has an exiled check, and then it uses labapi events

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:17 PM

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what is an exiled check

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does that mean you can use the same dll for both

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 1:17 PM

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teal junco what is an exiled check

#if EXILED

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no

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not same dll

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:18 PM

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hearty shard #if EXILED

oh i use that

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 1:18 PM

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just compiler processing to remove exiled from non exiled dll

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to prevent load error

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:18 PM

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i dont like having to manually change the references but its alright

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 1:19 PM

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teal junco i dont like having to manually change the references but its alright

you dont?

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well

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its literally the same as swapping from debug to release

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and back

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its 2 clicks

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:20 PM

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hearty shard its literally the same as swapping from debug to release

no i mean removing the exiled dlls from the project refs

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i heard theres a way to make it conditional too but i couldnt be assed to figure that out

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 1:21 PM

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just this

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:21 PM

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oh awesome

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I'll take a deeper look at the differences between labapi and exiled later

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theres probably some events exiled has labapi doesnt.

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:24 PM

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hearty shard just this

Ye basically

Screenshot_2025-05-14-15-24-16-155_com.android.chrome.jpg

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I set those in .props so doesn't need to actually edit and .csproj file

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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cant wait for ucr labapi port

plush walrus May 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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teal junco cant wait for ucr labapi port

Is ucr being ported to LabAPI?

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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no

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its not

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that would be cool tho idk

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the biggest issue i have with labapi rn is no customrole/customitem

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:45 PM

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Im gonna send u to the edge of the game

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:46 PM

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my hope is only one or two people make such a thing for labapi and there isnt like 3 frameworks of the same thing

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Hey I did my Own custom item, kinda custom roles too

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:47 PM

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I'll look at your repo and see if theres any PRs I wanna make

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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Have fun I accept those if I see benefits or something

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Since I only used for my server isn't much

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My issue currently is the Ondropped runs twice but that can be changed

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Because it doesn't run the labapis one

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If you drop it while in inventory or by throwing (which should be)

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:53 PM

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The structure looks a bit confusing but I think I understand it

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my only problem really is that there isnt a one file solution for custom event subscriptions

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but your solution you have is pretty good

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:55 PM

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teal junco my only problem really is that there isnt a one file solution for custom event s...

I split it by functionality

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:55 PM

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teal junco my only problem really is that there isnt a one file solution for custom event s...

just have a bunch of interfaces for every event in labapi Trolley

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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restive turret I split it by functionality

i can see

restive turret May 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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I tried it and ehhh

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Didn't really liked it

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 1:57 PM

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upper vapor Oh you're spawning a pickup, I missed that You need call ServerSetInstanceAmmo w...

Tried that but it throws NullException 😭

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:58 PM

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restive turret Didn't really liked it

why not

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 1:58 PM

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crimson nova Tried that but it throws NullException 😭

Get the template
Not sure if it's the best approach but InventoryItemLoader.TryGetItem

teal junco May 14, 2025, 1:58 PM

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IScp096Item is fire

restive turret May 14, 2025, 2:00 PM

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teal junco why not

Having like 15ish interfaces?

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:00 PM

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Yeah

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i mean itll be nice to be able to support every event in labapi

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wouldnt it

restive turret May 14, 2025, 2:01 PM

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Eh might do it

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 2:15 PM

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upper vapor Get the template Not sure if it's the best approach but InventoryItemLoader.TryG...

I don't even know what am I doing.

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:51 PM

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Dude i swear some people are so ignorant

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I hope labapi never gets dumbasses asking for help in it.

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 2:51 PM

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teal junco I hope labapi never gets dumbasses asking for help in it.

(t will)

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there is 0 way to avoid it

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:53 PM

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I hope they'll at least be respectful and literate and even try to read the material people give them

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:53 PM

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hearty shard there is 0 way to avoid it

Nah just put an IQ test at the gate

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 2:53 PM

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it wont happen

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 2:53 PM

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teal junco Nah just put an IQ test at the gate

😭

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omw to get gated off 💔

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:54 PM

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💔

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add a special exception for eve

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 2:54 PM

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my below average iq begs for an exception 💔

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:55 PM

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anyways i dont really care that much about dumb people as long as they dont bother anybody. i mean i kind of used to be the same way in exiled

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 2:55 PM

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teal junco anyways i dont really care that much about dumb people as long as they dont both...

i will spam ping u and call u a hoe

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:55 PM

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before i had an arc and came back in 2024

teal junco May 14, 2025, 2:56 PM

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hearty shard i will spam ping u and call u a hoe

call my plugin stupid because you didnt read the docs

pallid shell May 14, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Guys its better Linux or windows for plugin development?

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@cedar jungle non hai diritti

teal junco May 14, 2025, 3:05 PM

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Use whichever one you want, windows from what i can see has visual studio ide and also can run scp sl natively

pallid shell May 14, 2025, 3:05 PM

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teal junco Use whichever one you want, windows from what i can see has visual studio ide an...

Oh ok

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Dont look at my pfp please

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 3:05 PM

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pallid shell Dont look at my pfp please

a bit too late

teal junco May 14, 2025, 3:06 PM

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Its kind of the first thing i saw

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I dont know anything abt linux pros and cons

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if a linux user sees please say them

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 3:09 PM

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pallid shell Guys its better Linux or windows for plugin development?

Windows, .NET 4.8 is not supported on linux

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 3:09 PM

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pallid shell Guys its better Linux or windows for plugin development?

not a linux user myself but
pros of linux:

overall far better customizability
usually faster compile times
cons:
a bit more difficult to install .NET for SL development (you need Mono to develop for .NET Framework)
can be less user-friendly
Rider works on linux, too, no need for VS
if you're familiar with windows, consider trying out WSL (windows subsystem for linux)

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 3:10 PM

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crimson nova Windows, .NET 4.8 is not supported on linux

says the bazzite user

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d_rock

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 3:11 PM

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yeah...

ashen hornet May 14, 2025, 3:17 PM

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crimson nova Windows, .NET 4.8 is not supported on linux

You are able to compile .NET 4.8 stuff

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at least I did in a past

unique crane May 14, 2025, 3:19 PM

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carmine prawn

💀

cedar jungle May 14, 2025, 3:36 PM

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carmine prawn

@trail pumice

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 3:42 PM

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ashen hornet You are able to compile .NET 4.8 stuff

really?

upper vapor May 14, 2025, 3:43 PM

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crimson nova really?

https://www.mono-project.com/

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WineHQ has been maintaining it recently

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 3:53 PM

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seems I have been blessed with brand new knowledge

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thanks

restive turret May 14, 2025, 4:00 PM

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If u have net8+ installed you can compile into net4x

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How do i know?

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Cus I tested it

crimson nova May 14, 2025, 4:01 PM

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I am stupid

restive turret May 14, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Tested under manjaro but should work whatever platform u want

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If your main platfrom is win then easy choise

royal mica May 14, 2025, 4:58 PM

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You can literally compile plugins just fine on Linux

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via dotnet8 or dotnet9 package

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don't even need mono

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:23 PM

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Is every keycard an IDoorPermissionProvider?

I'm doing an if like this: ev.Player.CurrentItem != null && ev.Player.CurrentItem is IDoorPermissionProvider permissionProvider and it returns false when holding a keycard

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:24 PM

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tulip kiln Is every keycard an `IDoorPermissionProvider`? I'm doing an if like this: `ev.P...

no need for null check btw

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:25 PM

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hearty shard no need for null check btw

It's a legacy check, I'm trying to make the code work first 😭

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:25 PM

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ye ye

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:25 PM

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I opened the solution for the first time since 14.0

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:25 PM

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idk they should be

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KeycardItem inherits it iirc

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:25 PM

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okay so

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CurrentItem returns a wrapper

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And I'm comparing against a wrapper it seems

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:26 PM

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oh...............

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yeah

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i forgot about that

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yeah

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CurrentItem?.Base is ()

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:26 PM

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ye ye

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Gonna check

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It works

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pepePray

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:29 PM

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wait

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/// <summary>
        /// Checks whether a player has permission to access a <see cref="IDoorPermissionRequester"/>.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="player">The player to check.</param>
        /// <param name="requester">The requester to check the player for permissions on.</param>
        /// <returns>Whether a valid permission was found.</returns>
        public static bool HasDoorPermission(this Player player, IDoorPermissionRequester requester)
        {
            if (player.IsBypassEnabled)
                return true;

            if (player.RoleBase is IDoorPermissionProvider roleProvider && requester.PermissionsPolicy.CheckPermissions(roleProvider.GetPermissions(requester)))
                return true;

            foreach (Item? item in player.Items)
            {
                if (item?.Base is IDoorPermissionProvider itemProvider && requester.PermissionsPolicy.CheckPermissions(itemProvider.GetPermissions(requester)))
                    return true;
            }

            return false;
        }

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well

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for you only check the current item

tulip kiln May 14, 2025, 5:30 PM

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In this case I'm 049, so this method would override my "Plague Doctor needs keycard" mod

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but good to know it exists ig

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Ohh....

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Yeah

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makes sense

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 7:20 PM

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@unique crane when Scp3114Events TrollDespair (sowwy for ping)

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also why is the documentation for PlayerEffectUpdated whenever a player has recieved an effect, does it also include effect removals because of the name of the event args?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 7:22 PM

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Should be iirc

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 7:23 PM

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grand flower Should be iirc

okie

restive turret May 14, 2025, 7:38 PM

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I always forgot lumi doesn't have the src

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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restive turret I always forgot lumi doesn't have the src

when the applications came out i assumed it was web api, and i couldnt be fussed as i dislike making apis

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but no

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it's labapi

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so i didnt apply

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i should have tho

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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applications to develop labapi?

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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yes

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api maintainer

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Youre probably capable

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youre a web dev for nw right

scenic trout May 14, 2025, 8:09 PM

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icy knoll api maintainer

i would have liked to apply but i'm not old enough...

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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wait how old do you have to be

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18+?

icy knoll May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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18

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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Ye 18

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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how old is bolton

scenic trout May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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17

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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😭

scenic trout May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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yeah

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:(

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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im gonna be a crazy programmer by the time im 18

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:10 PM

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icy knoll when the applications came out i assumed it was web api, and i couldnt be fussed...

I was applied but they choose others

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:11 PM

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scp sl beter be around by then

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Why does discord suggest random emotes from server

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I dont have a nitro

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:14 PM

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to make u wanna use them

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n ur like dam. i coulda used that emote

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I should make a game in unity to get familiar with it more

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I only just understood components/monobehavior thing after programming for ProjectMER

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:16 PM

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I dislike unity

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:20 PM

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I know some people dislike unity for political, technical, performance reasons

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my brain is too small to really understand most of that

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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I mostly just hate the ui

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and the long ass building

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like guh I chanign 1 file with NOTHGIN inside it and I have to wait ~5 min to actually able to do something?

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:26 PM

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i think i heard people in MER say Unity is a bad company

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:26 PM

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I not saying anything about their political / financtial view

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:27 PM

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their politics directly affect their build times

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:27 PM

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slow af even in Ryzen 5?

teal junco May 14, 2025, 8:28 PM

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if the unity ceo was more socialist unity would compile instantly trust trust

restive turret May 14, 2025, 8:28 PM

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catBleh

unique crane May 14, 2025, 8:41 PM

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icy knoll <@282125275930820608> when Scp3114Events <:TrollDespair:1198744721598722208> (so...

kcd_npc_yeah_sure

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 8:48 PM

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Someone knows a similar way to do the IsInvisble/InvisibleFor of Exiled (FPCRole) on LabAPI

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 8:49 PM

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there should be a player checking visibility event

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 8:50 PM

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worthy rune there should be a player checking visibility event

Fr?

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If you can tell me more precisily that could be really good

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because i didn't know nw actually added it

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 8:51 PM

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PlayerValidatedVisibility

slender lynx May 14, 2025, 8:52 PM

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this is the most peak thing since megapatch 2

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 8:52 PM

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worthy rune PlayerValidatedVisibility

I cannot belive this is real

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lol

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I was loosing hope

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 8:53 PM

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lol is it

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in the past i just used a patch

slender lynx May 14, 2025, 8:54 PM

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we were trying different patches for almost an entire day

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nothing worked on the beta

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 8:55 PM

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strange

static meteor May 14, 2025, 8:55 PM

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Can you make a player invisible and have a object parented not be invisible?

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 8:55 PM

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nope

hearty shard May 14, 2025, 9:10 PM

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static meteor Can you make a player invisible and have a object parented not be invisible?

Invisible effect

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:14 PM

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Sucks that the invisible effect stops you from networking to other players

static meteor May 14, 2025, 9:14 PM

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hearty shard Invisible effect

That makes the parented object invisible

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I tried it

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:14 PM

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Just have a component on the object always sets its position to the player without actually parenting it

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:15 PM

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worthy rune in the past i just used a patch

public static void OnPlayerVisibility(PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs ev)
        {
            ExPlayer p = ExPlayer.Get(ev.Player);
            ExPlayer t = ExPlayer.Get(ev.Target);
            
            var spawn = Spawn.Instance;
            if (spawn != null && spawn.Players.Contains(p) && spawn.Players.Contains(t))
            {
                ev.IsVisible = true;
                return;
            }
            var aim = Aimlab.Instance;
            if (aim != null && aim.Players.Contains(p) && aim.Players.Contains(t))
            {
                ev.IsVisible = true;
                return;
            }

            foreach (var va in VirtualArena.Instances)
            {
                if ((va.TeamA.Contains(p) && va.TeamA.Contains(t)) ||
                    (va.TeamB.Contains(p) && va.TeamB.Contains(t)) ||
                    (va.Spectator.Contains(p) && va.Spectator.Contains(t)))
                {
                    ev.IsVisible = true;
                    return;
                }
            }

            foreach (var arena in Arena.arenas)
            {
                foreach (var fight in arena.Fights)
                {
                    var participants = fight.Team1.Concat(fight.Team2).Concat(fight.Spectators);
                    if (participants.Contains(p) && participants.Contains(t))
                    {
                        ev.IsVisible = true;
                        return;
                    }
                }
            }
            ev.IsVisible = false;
        }

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:15 PM

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celest thorn ```c# public static void OnPlayerVisibility(PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs e...

Its not like working at all and im honestly not understanding why

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should i force it?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:15 PM

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uhhh

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:15 PM

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force?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:16 PM

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I don't think it does what you're trying to do?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:16 PM

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grand flower I don't think it does what you're trying to do?

what do you mean?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:16 PM

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You're trying to make players only visible to certain players right

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:16 PM

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grand flower You're trying to make players only visible to certain players right

yes

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:16 PM

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I think that even is just to check if player A can see player B. As in "if B was 173, would A affect B"

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alongside all of the other "you see a player" buffs like zombies seeing humans

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I don't think SL provides any way to hide players from others other than by faking their role for the other players

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:17 PM

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This gets called tho everytime a player gets the fpc update

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so it doesn't make any sense

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:18 PM

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yeah because when a player moves it might change the visibility of other players

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:18 PM

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grand flower yeah because when a player moves it might change the visibility of other players

Like in my dictionary visibility should be can i see him?

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and should affect the Bloodlust or any other scp

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Think of it as having line of sight with another player

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not being able to see the player as a toggle

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yeah

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:19 PM

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So its just for the abilities lol?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:19 PM

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p much

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:19 PM

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shouldnt be

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:19 PM

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no?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:19 PM

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worthy rune shouldnt be

Im testing it by making it always false

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because i know for a fact it should work

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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you can override the result, it does check beforehand if a player would of been visible from any other reason like abilities/range

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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celest thorn Im testing it by making it always false

yeah that should work(players should be invisible)

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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does setting it to false make the player invisible for the other

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interesting

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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yes

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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i stand corrected, i'll try it out

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:20 PM

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worthy rune yeah that should work(players should be invisible)

Ok now im checking if always works

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:21 PM

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(could we get an event to force networking of player A to player B)

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(I don't want invisible players to stop being networked in some cases)

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:21 PM

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it doesn't work amazing

slender lynx May 14, 2025, 9:21 PM

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forcing false dosent work so

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🥀

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

#

            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility += OnPlayerVisibility;
            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility -= OnPlayerVisibility;

        public static void OnPlayerVisibility(PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs ev)
        {
            ExPlayer p = ExPlayer.Get(ev.Player);
            ExPlayer t = ExPlayer.Get(ev.Target);

            ev.IsVisible = false;
        }

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like this are all of the stuff im doing now

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

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uh

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            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility += OnPlayerVisibility;
            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility -= OnPlayerVisibility;

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is that actual code you're running

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

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grand flower (could we get an event to force networking of player A to player B)

there was a suggestion like that on the labapi github, its something im working on

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

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grand flower ```cs LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility += OnP...

No

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

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okay just making sure hah

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:22 PM

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its not the code im actually running

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:23 PM

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worthy rune there was a suggestion like that on the labapi github, its something im working ...

sweet

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would help with some of the hacky workarounds I had to do for some plugins

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:23 PM

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so yea

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how can i pull this off?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:24 PM

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If that doesn't work and you're certain it runs through debugging, transmitting fake role data

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:24 PM

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in theory that should work, btw you dont have EXILED installed or any other plugins that effect visibility?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:24 PM

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worthy rune in theory that should work, btw you dont have EXILED installed or any other plug...

I just have exiled

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and nothing else

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:24 PM

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try without exiled perhaps

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:24 PM

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right because of ExPlayer

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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let me check for any error

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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btw i did test it with dummies and it did work for me

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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also need a way to hide players from the spectator list pepebeg

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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No errors

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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i think david is working on that one

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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having to send fake spectator role data is kinda hacky and not very polished

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hell yeah

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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so yea exiled, maybe?

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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exiled definitely patches it, so probably

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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worthy rune exiled definitely patches it, so probably

let me check

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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I'll also open an issue for a custom event that gets fired when RoundSummary wants to end the round, so you can block it

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because I'll be honest, RoundSummary._ProcessServerSideCode() is the bane of my existance

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patching that is hell ;-;

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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https://gitlab.com/exmod-team/EXILED/-/blob/master/EXILED/Exiled.Events/Patches/Generic/GhostModePatch.cs yep

GitLab

EXILED/Exiled.Events/Patches/Generic/GhostModePatch.cs · master ·...

A high-level plugin framework for SCP: Secret Laboratory servers (scpsl). It offers an event system for developers to hook in order to manipulate or change game code, or...

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they do

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i will patch over it to disable it

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:27 PM

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grand flower I'll also open an issue for a custom event that gets fired when `RoundSummary` w...

i think theres a ServerRoundRestarting or ServerRoundEnding event already

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:27 PM

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wait sec

#

did i miss that

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:28 PM

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actually where is restarting

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:28 PM

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....

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i did

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yeah i missed it

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fuck me

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was about to spend an hour or two figuring out the IL needed to add a check

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nvm then

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:29 PM

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oh its named differently now

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nah no worries

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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[HarmonyPatch("GhostModePatch", "Transpiler")]
public class DisableGhost
{
    public static bool Prefix() => false;
}

I just think this will be enough (its internal, i just don't wanna pull up the publicizer)

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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this is like, the third time I start writing a patch to find out LabAPI has an event now

static meteor May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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Can we get a player activating workstation event or player changing attachments event in LabApi?

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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celest thorn ```c# [HarmonyPatch("GhostModePatch", "Transpiler")] public class DisableGhost {...

patching the patch

static meteor May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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static meteor Can we get a player activating workstation event or player changing attachments ...

I couldn't find one so I assume it dosent exist

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:30 PM

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worthy rune patching the patch

nope probably it doesn't work

restive turret May 14, 2025, 9:31 PM

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celest thorn ```c# [HarmonyPatch("GhostModePatch", "Transpiler")] public class DisableGhost {...

Me when i can just Publicize="true" in reference

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 9:31 PM

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restive turret Me when i can just Publicize="true" in reference

On Exiled.Events

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Oh yea i can

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lol

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i forgot

restive turret May 14, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Skull

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You can publicize a whole package

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:31 PM

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static meteor Can we get a player activating workstation event or player changing attachments ...

make an issue on the labapi github, otherwise we will forger

restive turret May 14, 2025, 9:32 PM

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Forgor

teal junco May 14, 2025, 9:39 PM

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grand flower is that actual code you're running

is something wrong

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:40 PM

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teal junco is something wrong

            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility += OnPlayerVisibility;
            LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility -= OnPlayerVisibility;

this would subscribe and unsubscribe the handler, but it's not the code they're running

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so it's fine

teal junco May 14, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Oh oh

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okay yeah

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:45 PM

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https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/124 another good idea mmLul

GitHub

[IDEA] ServerEvents.ChoosingLeadingTeam event · Issue #124 · nort...

Goal Description This event would be fired before ServerEvents.OnRoundEnding() allowing us to override the team which is considered the winning team. Right now this can be done in OnRoundEnding(), ...

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One of the big issues I have with LabAPI right now is handler execution order

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Can't always guarantee it so sometimes you get conflicts

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Could maybe have a Priority attribute for the CustomEventHandlers, but that wouldn't solve it for the static version of the events

teal junco May 14, 2025, 9:56 PM

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grand flower Can't always guarantee it so sometimes you get conflicts

u cant guarantee the execution order?

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how so

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like if you subscribe two events in a row, its not clear which comes first?

grand flower May 14, 2025, 9:58 PM

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If you have lots of plugins, I don't like to assume plugin A loads before plugin B

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or vice versa

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they might not

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If you make that assumption and you're wrong, you p much get race condition related bugs

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that might not always happen and are hard to debug

worthy rune May 14, 2025, 9:59 PM

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also c# events dont garuntee an order even when you can garuntee the order they were subscribed in

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:00 PM

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Yup

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Just pray and see

grand flower May 14, 2025, 10:01 PM

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yeah

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that's why having more events helps reduce that

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but if NW ever adds some sort of priority code, even just for the CustomEventHandlers based events, it'd be awesome

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[Priority(1)] // Higher priority = executes first
public class MyHandlers : CustomEventHandlers
{
  // Or
  public override int GetPriority() => 1;
}

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Attribute would be easier

grand flower May 14, 2025, 10:05 PM

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Since it's compile time and can't change yeah

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that way NW can just re-order registered handlers whenever one gets added

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Or even can get priority for the subbed event

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:51 PM

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Im switching my entire project and i was trying to update when i do

        <Reference Include="Assembly-CSharp" publicize="true" Condition="'$(Configuration)' != 'EDITOR'">
            <HintPath>$(SL_REFERENCES)\Assembly-CSharp.dll</HintPath>
        </Reference>

its the only things that never loads
SL_REFERENCES:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\SCP Secret Laboratory Dedicated Server\SCPSL_Data\Managed"

I tried everything

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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Remove condition?
Publicize must start with big P

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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restive turret Remove condition? Publicize must start with big P

Condition works fine
and im going to try

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Nope still it doesn't load

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:54 PM

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If u use the bepin msbuild one you will see warn icon on the file

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U can ignore it

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Try building the project

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:54 PM

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restive turret Try building the project

Nope just throws the error

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of the missing references

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Error?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

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0>TestClass.cs(26,20): Error CS0246 : The type or namespace name 'PrimitiveFlags' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

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Try using smth directly from the acs

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

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restive turret Try using smth directly from the acs

what?

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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Isn't primitiveflags under AdminToys namespace?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:58 PM

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yes

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:58 PM

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Are you using it?

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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restive turret Are you using it?

wait they are separated?

restive turret May 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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How would i know

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I'm in bed

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Open dnspy and check

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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restive turret Open dnspy and check

No its under Assembly-CSharp

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Ye but what namespace is under it

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No namespace, AdminToys or some other? Who knows

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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restive turret Ye but what namespace is under it

AdminToys

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i already have using AdminToys btw

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the Assembly-CSharp is not totally loading because ReferenceHub either is loading

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:01 PM

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And that line isn't throwing any error

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:01 PM

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yes it is

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0>TestClass.cs(26,20): Error CS0246 : The type or namespace name 'PrimitiveFlags' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Are you see the acs in the references/deoendencies panel?

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If you not using VS well

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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Ok this is funny

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CS is trying to load it in another folder

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that now doesn't exist

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like what?

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Idk what's on your side so

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Oh wait

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probably i should close entirely Rider

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:05 PM

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If you editing csproj or props ye

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Should be good to close and reopen

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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yep it works

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the env wasn't updating

restive turret May 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Aaaaaaaaaa

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Well

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Glad you found it

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I may now rest

celest thorn May 14, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Good night

upper vapor May 15, 2025, 4:48 AM

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teal junco u cant guarantee the execution order?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0KcpqJZlQbo

YouTube

Nick Chapsas

C# delegates are awesome

▶ Play video

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execution order is not guaranteed in delegates

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plus, as Cyn has stated, you might not know which plugin subscribes first

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:30 AM

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https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/125 mmLul

GitHub

[IDEA] A way to make a player appear on SCP-079's map. · Issue #12...

Goal Description It would be nice to have a way to set a non-SCP player to be visible on 079's map. This would be useful for custom SCPs that use a human as their role. Notes We would need to b...

restive turret May 15, 2025, 7:44 AM

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Cyn making suggestions day by day

unique crane May 15, 2025, 7:50 AM

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This isnt exactly hard to do, all thats needed is to sync who to make appear on the map

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As all players are iterated either way

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and filtered by SCP team

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:51 AM

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restive turret Cyn making suggestions day by day

P much anytime I hit a wall or the hacky workaround isn't desirable

restive turret May 15, 2025, 7:52 AM

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Thank you David for implementing it

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:52 AM

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The latter this time

unique crane May 15, 2025, 7:52 AM

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Didnt promise anything xd

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:52 AM

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unique crane This isnt exactly hard to do, all thats needed is to sync who to make appear on ...

Would be hella useful if it made it in IMO

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Maybe just having a string syncvar that if isn't null:

Overrides the default label for SCPs
Displays the player with that label for other roles.

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 10:19 AM

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also hiding a player from 079s map / being counted in the total

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:13 PM

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Hello 👋 Ive got a technical question on a vanilla server
i heard that u are able to embed images with the new spawntoy text command or something like that to display images
but i couldnt figure out how to so i wanted to ask in here
cause stuff like <color=red> works so i imagined putting a image in there would be something like <img src"">
apart from are there any other cool features to test like <color=> or <size=> cause more then that i wasnt able to figure out yet?

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 5:14 PM

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hushed ember Hello 👋 Ive got a technical question on a vanilla server i heard that u are ab...

the new spawn toy lets you spawn a text toy

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you need to convert an image to text

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search for TMPro tags

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:15 PM

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And that is possible on a vanilla server?

static meteor May 15, 2025, 5:15 PM

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You'd have to manually spawn it every time

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Yea i know that, its nothing to stay permanently more as a cool joke to show off

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 5:17 PM

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hushed ember And that is possible on a vanilla server?

idk if you can modify admintoy without a plugin

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:18 PM

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stuff like <color=red> works without plugins, and someone else told me it is possible to do stuff like images too but he left before i could ask him how it was done

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 5:18 PM

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you need to use an image converter

static meteor May 15, 2025, 5:19 PM

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I have a python script that converts images into tmp tags I might be able to share

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:19 PM

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that would be kind, cause i cant seem to find what eve says about an image converter for that

static meteor May 15, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Give me like 20 minutes

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:21 PM

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sure np

hushed ember May 15, 2025, 5:21 PM

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hearty shard you need to use an image converter

do u have an example by any chance?

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Ive found out that there is a method using <sprite> but it requires for the image file to be in a specific folder of the game so that doesnt work on vanilla

static meteor May 15, 2025, 5:28 PM

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hushed ember Ive found out that there is a method using <sprite> but it requires for the imag...

I sent it to you

icy knoll May 15, 2025, 5:44 PM

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How do I force 3114 to let go? Like if I disable the effect, it keeps them hanging on, but the player is free to leave?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 5:46 PM

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icy knoll How do I force 3114 to let go? Like if I disable the effect, it keeps them hangi...

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this is what the code does when 3114 takes damage while strangling

icy knoll May 15, 2025, 5:48 PM

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What class is that under?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 5:51 PM

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well

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Scp3114Strangle

icy knoll May 15, 2025, 5:51 PM

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me when exiled doesn't have that method

restive turret May 15, 2025, 5:55 PM

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in the game asm?

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PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp3114.Scp3114Strangle

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ye u can just parse null and should work

restive turret May 15, 2025, 6:16 PM

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so sad this version of .net not support interface basic implementation

grand flower May 15, 2025, 6:28 PM

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Question for @stuck peak, this isn't in 0.7.0 right? https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/77

GitHub

Data Store Improvements by x3rt · Pull Request #77 · northwood-st...

Changes

Stop using reflection for Adding/Removing Players to Data Stores and Destroying instances
Stop registering un-registered Data Stores in GetOrAdd as it can lead to undesired behavior
Added ...

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Because yesterday we've spotted issues where players reconnecting would get their old data stores back for some reason

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Dunno if it's a LabAPI bug or just on our end, could be but it was pretty weird

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Question for everyone else, is there any event for when an item is removed from a player's inventory via code

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Not dropping, not throwing, just removed

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Doesn't seem to be the case?

terse bone May 15, 2025, 6:45 PM

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grand flower Question for everyone else, is there any event for when an item is removed from ...

ig you can use OnItemRemoved

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removing via code means destroying the item instance

grand flower May 15, 2025, 6:50 PM

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hmmmmm

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is that called before the item is removed from the inventory or after

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cause I need to have the player it got removed from as well

terse bone May 15, 2025, 6:51 PM

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this is called before it is removed

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there is also another event

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and there is the item and a player

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this one's better ig

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hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:07 PM

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what can be null here?

#

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ev.Pickup also appears to be null here

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i mean

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if they are spectator

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but without a synced id then yeah ig

celest thorn May 15, 2025, 7:18 PM

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#1372594509849956462 message im having a similar problem but my data are just wrong

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:18 PM

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thats an attacker

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not pickup or from a spectator

celest thorn May 15, 2025, 7:18 PM

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hearty shard ev.Pickup also appears to be null here

Destroyed btw

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not Destroying

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:18 PM

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yeah but

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theres Pickup PI_Shrug

celest thorn May 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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thats true

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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there is also no Destroying

celest thorn May 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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yea idk

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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celest thorn May 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

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no idea

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:20 PM

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like the the thing should still exist no ?

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the instance at least

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sure the stuff in it wont work

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but i just need dictionary lookup

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this patch i still gotta fix

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i have no clue why it wont patch it

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the other patches work fine

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only this one doesnt

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💔

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:22 PM

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Internal?

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:22 PM

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so is this

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that one works fine

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this too

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and some others

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:23 PM

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Does it not run

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:23 PM

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it doesnt last i checked

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it just does default game

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:23 PM

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Added logging?

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:23 PM

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thats what i did last time and it didnt do anything

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i can double check ig

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:24 PM

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No patch error when loading it in logs

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:24 PM

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nope

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all is fine

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just doesnt patch it

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and patches in same category patch just fine

terse bone May 15, 2025, 7:29 PM

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hearty shard ev.Pickup also appears to be null here

ig it's an oversight because it can fail in retrieving that pickup from dictionary
so the Pickup property in the event should be nullable

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:29 PM

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[EveLabs] CustomRAUtilsPatch was called!!?!!?

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oh

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its called now

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just broken code now

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so i somehow fixed it

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cuz it didnt work last week

terse bone May 15, 2025, 7:29 PM

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nice

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:30 PM

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wait

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it works entirely on my local server

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AFoxy_HUH

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OH MY GOD
NOT AGAIN

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ITS CEDMOD

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im killing c ed

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i hate cedmod

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💔

terse bone May 15, 2025, 7:32 PM

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lmao, only reason why i avoid third party plugins ^

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call me sisyphus

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Hmmm can you make it possible to cuff friendlies with LabAPI?

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i.e. mtf cuffing mtf

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or is that blocked clientside

terse bone May 15, 2025, 7:52 PM

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correct me if i'm wrong, checked the code and it seems that it's still blocked clientside

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at least we have keybinds so you can "override" this behaviour

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it would be cool to have player disarming working like pickup searching so it can be cancelled and verified serverside

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 7:56 PM

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this doesnt seem to work Hmm

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Hey so anyone ever get a bug where reloading animations play but the server doesn't reload, or players are fully desynced movement wise? Can't see each other move but we're defo still connected since the server responds to certain events

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shooting shows tracers coming out from nowher

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can't shoot each other either

terse bone May 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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hearty shard this doesnt seem to work <:Hmm:803387883720933396>

you want to show every info on a player except the Role?

grand flower May 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Where the other player sees me vs where I am (mtf), and I can't even see them in the right spot either

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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terse bone you want to show every info on a player except the Role?

i think ik the issue

terse bone May 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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that & maybe why

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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the issue

terse bone May 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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and setting player.CustomInfo doesn't add PlayerInfoArea.CustomInfo to these flags

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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is that its removing customrole on role change

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but i techhnically add a player to the role before they fully spawn in

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so when they fully spawn it removes it

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💔

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ill just

grand flower May 15, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Anyone know what message id 16484 is

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:16 PM

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That is some mirror generated stuff

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no clue

grand flower May 15, 2025, 8:17 PM

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getting a weird bug where it sends this in logs and then reloading breaks

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thonkong

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is connection(0) the dedicated server?

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[2025-05-15 13:19:24.386 -07:00] [STDOUT] Unknown message id: 16484 for connection: connection(0). This can happen if no handler was registered for this message.
[2025-05-15 13:19:24.386 -07:00] [STDOUT] NetworkServer: failed to unpack and invoke message. Disconnecting 0.

terse bone May 15, 2025, 8:20 PM

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yes

grand flower May 15, 2025, 8:20 PM

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bruh

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any way to check what's sending this

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guessing something's making the host disconnect and then things just break

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we're still connected but like, reloading doesn't work, sometimes we don't even see each other move

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we can still do server actions though which is weird

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okay found it

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just had to output all message types

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16484 is Mirror.SpawnMessage

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:32 PM

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grand flower ``` [2025-05-15 13:19:24.386 -07:00] [STDOUT] Unknown message id: 16484 for conn...

Do not send messages to dedicated server player

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Use ReadyList instead of List

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(unless its been fixed already?)

grand flower May 15, 2025, 8:33 PM

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I think List probably has the host, oops

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yep found the issue ouch

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3 instances of us doing that fixed, ty

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:39 PM

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Is it normal that I'M stuck at 0,0,0 when I prevent world gen via OnServerMapGenerating -> ev.IsAllowed = false;?

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I'm assuming I need to spawn some sort of skybox of sorts for the game so it doesn't freak out

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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royal mica Is it normal that I'M stuck at `0,0,0` when I prevent world gen via `OnServerMap...

Only thing that is left is surface and pocket dimension

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No facility is generated

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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The thing is, nothing is generated

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also cannot move while in noclip either

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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And when you tp to surface?

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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cannot TP

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no surface

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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hmm

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Any errors in console/localadminlogs/player logs?

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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I made a custom command to teleport to coords

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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unique crane Any errors in console/localadminlogs/player logs?

Nothing concrete

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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And when you set your role to tutorial?

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with spawnpoint enabled

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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tried to abomination to replicate generating the skybox but I gave up

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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unique crane And when you set your role to tutorial?

Will check this, once second

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Because like surface and pocket dimension is pretty much hardcoded into the scene

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Its not generated during map gen

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:44 PM

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I think I broke the game icant

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Eh

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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OH WIAT

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Hm?

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:47 PM

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My custom cube spawns at 0 100 0
I can teleport to coords just fine via custom position setting
Enabling noclip snaps me to 0,0,0
Tutorial forceclass just puts me at 0,0,0

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I have no idea what is going on

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also world is pitch black

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I just got the Tutorial tower coords, will check if that works

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Well if it didnt spawn you there normally

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Yeah, surface is just GONE

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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breh

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There were some zone changes...

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maybe thats why

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Very possible

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Try spawning a door

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and cube near it

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like below it

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maybe you will be able to see it

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Doors are not in the spawntoy cmd, one sec

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I already spawn a cube at 0 100 0 btw and that works

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will spawn a door on that actually

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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You will have to do that via plugin

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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yeye

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Aaaaah

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Surface & pocket now have their zone generators too

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:55 PM

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Funny cause those are not refering to AtlasZoneGenerator

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nor other Generator actually

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so either Rider decomp lying to me, or that is generated in a roundabout way

marble cobalt May 15, 2025, 8:56 PM

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They do, believe its called SingleRoomZoneGenerator or something like that

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:56 PM

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OH

unique crane May 15, 2025, 8:56 PM

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Yep

royal mica May 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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I need to remove something from the Assemblies tab so the decomp in Rider refreshes so I can open classes icant

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I love this software

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So I have all System. added to the disassembler so I can reload the decomp

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Wait, how do you spawn a door with LabAPI now

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I assume you no longer iterate through Prefabs and init from there

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But looking at code all of the Get and DoorVariant assumes they exists ingame, which in my case they don't THONK

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wait how do you even spawn a door? It is not part of the prefabs anymore

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Ofc it is...

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:10 PM

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royal mica I assume you no longer iterate through Prefabs and init from there

You do that still

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Yeah

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Not when nothing generated I guess icant

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these are all the prefabs available

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Are doors in the initial list or added slightly after?

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i cant remember

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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They are added via code

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somewhere...

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idk where

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They might be in the zone gens...

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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troll

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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which doesnt run if you cancel the event

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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david ur trolling

ashen hornet May 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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royal mica wait how do you even spawn a door? It is not part of the prefabs anymore

https://github.com/Michal78900/ProjectMER/blob/master/Features/PrefabManager.cs#L50

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royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

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ashen hornet https://github.com/Michal78900/ProjectMER/blob/master/Features/PrefabManager.cs#...

YYeaaah about that. They are not in the prefab

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I'm doing that

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they are not in it

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

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royal mica YYeaaah about that. They are not in the prefab

What if you generate the facility?

ashen hornet May 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

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idk, I don't use LabAPI wrappers

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

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dont cancel the event

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Will check

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1 sec

grand flower May 15, 2025, 9:16 PM

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Does OnPlayerValidatedVisibility not work for SCP-939? I set it to true but the 939 can't see the player at all until they get close enough

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:17 PM

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unique crane What if you generate the facility?

Ok not even then

[2025-05-15 23:17:16.340 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: sportTargetPrefab
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.351 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: dboyTargetPrefab
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.362 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: binaryTargetPrefab
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.373 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: TantrumObj
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.383 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: PrimitiveObjectToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.394 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: LightSourceToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.405 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: SpeakerToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.415 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: Sinkhole
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.426 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: CapybaraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.436 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: InvisibleInteractableToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.446 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: EzArmCameraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.457 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: EzCameraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.467 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: HczCameraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.477 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: LczCameraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.487 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: SzCameraToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.498 +02:00] [INFO] [LabBreak] Pf: TextToy
[2025-05-15 23:17:16.508 +02:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] 'ArgumentException' occured while invoking 'OnServerRoundStarting' on 'LabBreak.MapGen.DisableMapGen': 'The Object you want to instantiate is null.', stack trace:

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I assume this is too early for it

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Uhhhh

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Try printing it after OnWaitingForPlayers

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Interesting cause I'M using OnServerRoundStarting to access these

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Uhuh

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Can you show me the code?

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:18 PM

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Sure

    public override void OnServerRoundStarting(RoundStartingEventArgs ev)
    {
        base.OnServerRoundStarting(ev);
        
        var platform = PrimitiveObjectToy.Create(
            new Vector3(0, 100, 0),
            Quaternion.identity,
            new Vector3(10, 1, 10)
        );
        platform.Type = PrimitiveType.Cube;
        platform.Color = Color.blue;
        platform.Flags = PrimitiveFlags.Collidable | PrimitiveFlags.Visible;
        
        LightSourceToy.Create(new Vector3(0, 102, 0));

        SpawnUtil.JustFuckingSpawnADoor(new Vector3(0, 102, 0));
        
        Logger.Info("Spawned toy at " + platform.Position);
            
            
        foreach (var player in Player.ReadyList)
        {
            player.Position = new Vector3(0, 102, 0);
            
            player.SendHint("Sending to 0, 104, 0", 10);
        }
    }

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JustFuckingSpawnADoor is

    public static GameObject JustFuckingSpawnADoor(
        Vector3 pos,
        Vector3? pRot = null,
        Vector3? pScale = null,
        bool isOpenable = false,
        bool isAlmostIndestructable = true
    )
    {
        Vector3 rotation = pRot ?? new Vector3(0, 0, 0);
        Vector3 scale = pScale ?? new Vector3(1f, 1f, 1f);

        foreach (var singletonSpawnPrefab in NetworkManager.singleton.spawnPrefabs)
        {
            Logger.Info($"Pf: {singletonSpawnPrefab.name}");
        }
        var prefab = NetworkManager.singleton.spawnPrefabs.Find(p => p.gameObject.name == "HCZ BreakableDoor");
        //https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLiN2Js1UtQ
        var door = Object.Instantiate(prefab);

        door.transform.localPosition = pos;
        door.transform.localRotation = Quaternion.Euler(rotation);
        door.transform.localScale = scale;

        var doorVariant = door.GetComponent<BreakableDoor>();

        if (!isOpenable) doorVariant.Lock(DoorLockReason.AdminCommand, true);
        if (isAlmostIndestructable) doorVariant.TryDamage(float.MinValue + 80f);

        //door.UpdatePlayers();

        NetworkServer.Spawn(door);
        return door;
    }

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(HCZ BreakableDoor is maybe wrong , but the foreach should list the correct name for it)

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:20 PM

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Aaah

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Use NetworkClient.prefabs.Values

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:20 PM

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ah

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:23 PM

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Moment

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:24 PM

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yeah

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now it works

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also it has a lot more prefabs

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idk why its migreated to NetworkClient from that

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but there must be internal reasons

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Anyway. I have a door now.

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But I still cannot move, nothing works

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:24 PM

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Welp then

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Sorry, you will have to wait for a fix

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

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it is fine, I'M glad I noticed a problem

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Yeah thanks

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Will help further developing a very custom gamemode

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Is there a way to spawn a skybox?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:26 PM

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No

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:26 PM

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Ah

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very strange that I see nothing and cannot move

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I wonder, can I somehow get the zone generator instances and generate surface to check?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:33 PM

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@royal mica Try spawning the door when the map generating even runs?

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Not after round starts

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That might work

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Can check it

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moved the spawn code to before IsAllowed

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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unique crane <@132136706378956800> Try spawning the door when the map generating even runs?

The Door prefab is not added during OnServerMapGenerating

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Only these 4, so I strongly assume either these are prefilled or async

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will restart and see if it changes

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wait, if you round restart, the server generates the map?!

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huh?!

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Huh

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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WAIT WHAT

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Eh

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Spawning a DOOR MAKES IT WORK?!

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Yea

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Welcome to world of relative positioning

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:41 PM

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Okay.
So prefab is not filled during cold start
Fast restart keeps prefab filled.
In this way the game works?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:41 PM

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Try uhh

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OnWaitingForPlayers

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:42 PM

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I assume the door spawning

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Yea

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:44 PM

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It works?!

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trying a cold start rn

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Oh is event order wrong in my head?
Does map gen happen BEFORE wait for players?

unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Yes

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But this is independent

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But you have to spawn them before player joins

carmine prawn May 15, 2025, 9:46 PM

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unique crane May 15, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Which is OnWaitingForPlayers

carmine prawn May 15, 2025, 9:46 PM

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boom

restive turret May 15, 2025, 9:51 PM

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Lmao

royal mica May 15, 2025, 9:52 PM

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unique crane But you have to spawn them before player joins

Actually I wonder how spawning a door affect this.
Does this need a fix from NW side so that no door is required?
Would I need to consider the position of this door so it is near 0,0,0 or is it fine to be at 1000(x3) ?

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The answer is yes

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Very strange behaviour.
I'm in Noclip. Door is at (1000, 1000, 1000)
I get snapped back to (872,872,872)

grand flower May 15, 2025, 9:56 PM

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grand flower Does `OnPlayerValidatedVisibility` not work for SCP-939? I set it to true but th...

bump because I'm stumped. I even patched 939's visibility controller to always return true and it doesn't work thonkong

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:57 PM

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grand flower Does `OnPlayerValidatedVisibility` not work for SCP-939? I set it to true but th...

Client side momenr

grand flower May 15, 2025, 9:57 PM

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seriously, did NW change this between 14.0 and 14.1???

hearty shard May 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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grand flower seriously, did NW change this between 14.0 and 14.1???

was like this before

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i remember doing 939 events

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on exiled

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it nono work

grand flower May 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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god fucking dammit

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alright must've broken sometime ago because i'm porting code that used to work apparently

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ah well

restive turret May 15, 2025, 9:59 PM

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"apparently"

grand flower May 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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?

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was a working feature in the past, just guess that nobody noticed or reported it breaking between now and then

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I'll open an issue

carmine prawn May 15, 2025, 10:16 PM

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SCP106Blob

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good cat

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bad client

teal junco May 15, 2025, 11:29 PM

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make everything client side
the unit gen is client side
the reloading is client side
the entire map is client side
the other people are client side
its just you

grand flower May 15, 2025, 11:29 PM

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grand flower ``` [2025-05-15 13:19:24.386 -07:00] [STDOUT] Unknown message id: 16484 for conn...

also for anyone who gets this one day, yeah just don't send messages to the dedicated server. You can also postfix NetworkServer.UnpackAndInvoke to always return true for the server (connection 0) so that if it ever happens again it won't be as severe.

grand flower May 15, 2025, 11:30 PM

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teal junco >make everything client side >the unit gen is client side >the reloading is clie...

Some parts I get, others are a little annoying but if NW wants to "fix" it by giving us LabAPI access it'd be nice

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Reloading needs to be predicted or it'll feel like crap with latency/server lag

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Don't need to let people attempt to cuff their teammates if the base game doesn't need it

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etc etc