Hashed (Dithered) Transparency

[neon garnet]

i already know transparency is like deconfirmed basically
transparency isn't a thing in grab for pretty good reason, it's resource intensive to blend colors together in mass

i don't understand why it isn't possible to use hashed transparency for quest which is on the lower end
hashed transparency is when, instead of blending colors together, pixels are skipped from being drawn, so no color has to be blended together.
with the quest's high resolution, hashed transparency would look still look fairly convincing without chewing up all of the gpu's resources

i don't think pc would have any problem rendering with true transparency, this is mostly just a quest thing

[hybrid torrent]

Oh, that is quite cool

[weary peak]

maybe

[slate sage]

[orchid shoal]

you'd be surprised how bad this stuff can look in VR, but mainly it's just quite tricky to make it work well with multiple layers of transparency

• it doesn't solve the main issue, which is that invisible geometry can not be discarded before rendering when doing this

the transparency itself is not the problem

it's the fact that the gpu can't do a bunch of optimisations

some of those optimisations are very specific to mobile gpus

it wouldn't be a problem to just have a couple transparent windows in a level, but if players start build glass mazes performance will totally go to shit

[hybrid torrent]

True, Transparent objects don't do well on the Android build of my games I make 😅

No matter what optimizations I do

[pale silo]

000000(or maybe its FFFFFF, pitch black) color mazes exist but not many people build them, I dont think it would be too terrible but at the start its more likely to see those maps

[foggy oxide]

make a limit on it

[orchid shoal]

the keyword is "performance"

[pale silo]

yeah gpu is going to die but just add like max 20 blocks for 7 complex

[orchid shoal]

well, reasonable limit would be 10 objects with transparency in a level, maybe I'd have to even go for only 3 or 5, not sure how useful it still is at that point

[foggy oxide]

you could use it for a house or like a window to see a level

[orchid shoal]

yes, a house with 3 windows

[foggy oxide]

idk how to explain the 2nd one if you can imagine it perfect

[foggy oxide]

ez

[orchid shoal]

well, depends how you build it I suppose

but still

I feel like it's not worth the trouble at this point

[pale silo]

I mean if someone is just building showcase maps then it could be good for them

[foggy oxide]

i imagined a window then you see a parkour that goes up

[pale silo]

still could have invisible walls and just a hitbox but then I think people would still ask for glass/transparency color blocks. mazes would suck but no on would play them so no one would build them(hopefully 😵‍💫 )

[foggy oxide]

fr

[orchid shoal]

well, invisible is a totally different thing than transparent

it does not have those performance issues

but seems like it has potential for a lot of shitty gameplay

[pale silo]

yeah it would be annoying just to hit a wall that you cant see, still usable in some aspects but still at that point for invisible not worth the more I think about it

[foggy oxide]

you should make it for verified creators

[orchid shoal]

nope

[foggy oxide]

whoy

[orchid shoal]

because if I add a feature I want it to be available to everyone

[foggy oxide]

their gonna use it responsibly

[orchid shoal]

they definitely wouldn't

[foggy oxide]

i think the unverified people are gonna use it like 💩

[orchid shoal]

doubt

[foggy oxide]

nah i would

[orchid shoal]

good for you

but you are not all of them

[foggy oxide]

i am

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

but fr tho

[foggy oxide]

but isn’t the complexity feature only for verified creators

kinda a feature

[pale silo]

verified creators only get 2x regular complex