Speculating about what ulzar said

[grim thicket]

Even at first I thought that the enemy responsible for the abyssals could be Miriam (the magician/sorceress of the Underworld), since in N1 she was too interested in the protagonist destroying the soul of Omnicron

By the way, Miriam could also have been hunted or killed by this mysterious enemy, since although she is not a psychic as such, she also masters magic and spells.

[drowsy slate]

I have already lost hope that it will appear again. And this confirms it even more for me ):

We couldn't even fight him face to face in combat in N1...

[drowsy slate]

Maybe in N3 there will be a cameo towards a Micromon character as happened in N1 with Malk and in N2 with Vados (Vaithe) and with the chaos exemplars (gurgita and the others)

[grim thicket]

Honestly, it wouldn't be surprising if a Micromon character appeared in N3, one of the ones I think could appear is Leah

[grim thicket]

I also don't think fighting him would have been extremely difficult, I think we would have defeated him quite easily

In fact, someone from the inner circle of the developers told me that they had planned for Metta to appear instead of Glacia and control the guardians but in the end it was Glacia who came out

[honest garnet]

I have serious doubts that it is precisely this character who makes an appearance...

It could be that there is another character in the game that does appear, perhaps Micromon's robot, the one that is with Malk at the beginning

[pale meadow]

From a realistic point of view, I don't think micromon characters (NPC's) will kame an appearance, nowadays it's almost impossible to play it and most of the playerbase for N3 won't have any idea who they are, so best case scenario, one MIGHT appear as a tiny Easter egg, but I really doubt it

[grim thicket]

Taking into account that in the two previous nexomon games there have been some references to Micromon, it is assumed that there will also be one in N3.

Since the developers are very fond of Micromon considering that thanks to Micromon the creation of the Nexomon saga was possible.

[drowsy slate]

There is no reason for Leah specifically to appear, I don't see any relationship between her and the supposed N3 plot.

If I had to choose, I would like Zeth to return (or at least a new version of him)

Since he would fit perfectly in the role of "rival of the protagonist"

[honest garnet]

In fact, there have not only been references to Micromon in characters, but also in phrases (like Miriam in N1 when she says that <<this is not like Micromon, here we can't just blow up the world>> XD)

Besides Malk, Vados-Vaithe...

Gurgita, Anima, Fulmina, Agita

In addition to certain areas that surely inspired them (Navia = Palmaya)

[grim thicket]

A character from that era would not necessarily have to appear, it is enough for them to introduce a nexomon that has numerous similarities with a micromon from the 2014 game

[drowsy slate]

There are surely some references, what is another issue is whether the average player will understand it

Except for the Malk case and the case of the chaos specimens, which were very blatant references, the other references that have been made have been quite subtle.

[pale meadow]

You can't assume that something being in the first two games means it will definitely happen in the third, the first two games were in 2d now it's in 3d. Besides the chaos micromon in the abyssals dlc (which is mostly returning mons for fanservice reasons) extinction didn't really have references to micromon

[grim thicket]

The only reference I remember to Micromon in N2 is the character of Vados, who was inspired by Vaithe (one of Micromon's antagonists)

Maybe with 3D they want to evolve a little and leave behind everything done previously, but I think that if they make the reference well and according to the game it could look good and the player who has played Micromon would feel quite nostalgic but also happy to know that Nexomon is not forget your origins

[pale meadow]

Since JV doesn't even have the source code for micromon anymore, I don't think he's too bothered about it, also micromon was/is only available on iOS so only a tiny fraction of the fan base would recognise the reference, given the choice, I would prefer references to the first nexomon games

[drowsy slate]

I sincerely hope that in N3 there will be an abundance of references compared to the two previous titles (whether to Micromon or the previous games in the franchise). This would be a message to the players that despite Nexomon has evolved to 3D, the players and fans of the product should not forget the beginnings. in 2D.

Maybe, if there are about ten references, the percentage would be (80% previous games, 20% Micromon), thus allowing the average player to understand ALMOST all of them, leaving that 20% only for those who played and enjoyed Micromon at the time. .

[balmy plover]

Talking about, the first game actively referenced it. So did the second.

[pale meadow]

The references in extinction were Easter eggs at most, for N3 I don't expect micromon Easter eggs, maybe a few quirky one liners but nothing too important that someone who hasn't played micromon feels too left out

Also since the game is supposed to be more immersive, it's a bit fuzzy whether or not micromon and nexomon are in the same universe so referencing it might break the immersion

[balmy plover]

We had Micromon transition into Nexomon, and Vados who is based on Vaithe

Micromon are real in the same sense than Nexomon are real to us, it appears

[drowsy slate]

I see possible references to Micromon or previous games in some phrases that certain characters may say that can break the fourth wall and bring out that ironic and sarcastic humor that has been in both N1 and N2

It can also be seen in some of the designs of new nexomon that they show us, that is, they are based on certain micromon to create them.

[grim thicket]

I guess the devs have to make sure their players don't feel out of the game at any time. However, he also felt it was necessary to give that feedback to the players, even though they are a minority, who have played Micromon or the previous Nexomon games.

Surely N3 will reach many more people than N1 or N2, since the leap in quality to 3D will surely make a difference in terms of the impact and sales of the game

[grim thicket]

Nexomon could be considered the result of the evolution and transformation of the Micromon universe.

It's like a baby has turned into a teenager.

And with 3D, the teenager will become an adult

[honest garnet]

A possible reference is that in N3 something is mentioned in passing about the world of Pixekai and how Malk ended up destroying it.

A priori I couldn't say how they would introduce this topic, but it would be enough for a random NPC in the game to say it who was talking about ancient legends or myths from the past.

[honest garnet]

However, the reference that I see as most possible is directed to N2 (postgame), that is, that they end up revealing to us who were those who lived in the Precursor Valley and that they tell us what the relationship of those inhabitants is with N3 and logically with the abyssals and with the seers

[balmy plover]

Again, we're talking digital simulated monsters and monsters from a different reality altogether.

They're not the same

They're Not compatible at face value

[honest garnet]

It would be something similar to a universe within another universe.

Micromon would be a universe within Nexomon, with Nexomon being the central universe

[balmy plover]

No, again, Micromon are a digital Simulation in Nexomon

[honest garnet]

Yes. However, Micromon is part of Nexomon, whether in another reality or another timeline but he is part of Nexomon, to understand the story in its entirety.

[balmy plover]

Again, no. It is a simulation within Nexomon. Not real, digital.

[honest garnet]

It doesn't matter that there is no Nexomon, the references in N1 and N2 make these worlds connected in some way, beyond the fact that it is a virtual world and does not exist in reality.

[honest garnet]

What I said before...Micromon is inside Nexomon

[balmy plover]

Except still not. It's not real. It doesn't really exist. Just like Nexomon doesn't really exist to us.

[grim thicket]

It's as if a "video game" existed in Nexomon and that "video game" would be Micromon, so to speak.

[grim thicket]

It is as if the player has been dragged into a virtual reality to play within a video game (like the Jumanji movie).

[balmy plover]

Except that's not actually the case

[grim thicket]

In a way, I understand your point of view, just like a video game is part of a person's life in the real world.

[drowsy slate]

Micromon is like a video game that the player (who lives in the real world) is dragged into, so it would be like a virtual reality

.Nexomon (real world, where the player is initially located, before being thrown into the virtual world)
.Micromon (virtual reality into which the player is thrown from the real world)

When this virtual reality collapses, everything inside disappears, as if a virtual file or a computer program disappeared

[grim thicket]

👍

[grim thicket]

And how do you explain Malk?

[drowsy slate]

Malk, by escaping from that virtual reality and not being a real person of flesh and blood, that is why he acts like a ghost in N1 and ends up disappearing, since he is not someone real and is prone to vanishing at any time

Surely, we will not see Malk again since in theory he is "erased from reality / faded away"

[pale meadow]

Everybody, can you please stop pinging me every time somebody wants to weigh in on what I said, especially when the messages are back to back from one another. I will understand that you're referring to what I'm saying through context, it's really annoying seeing so many pings that really aren't necessary

[honest garnet]

Do you think the fourth devlog will be aimed at combat mechanics and what combat will look like in the 3D world?

[drowsy slate]

How to know...

However, I think yes, it is time for them to start introducing the new combat mechanics (doubles or triples)

[grim thicket]

I couldn't tell you which aspect of the game they will opt for in the next devlog. There are many pending topics, one of them is the combat, although it could also be a devlog explaining the new equipment system

[drowsy slate]

I hope that they do introduce a new equipment system in N3, because the truth is that I didn't like the core mechanics in N2 at all, it was all too simplistic.

I hope that in N3 the equipment system is really noticeable in the nexomon and is not like equipping and synthesizing cores which was a rather tedious aspect of the game

Personally, every time I synthesized nuclei in the laboratory it was like...here I am doing this again.

[grim thicket]

They will surely change the core system and in N3 we can equip other gadgets that may be focused on improving certain aspects of our entire team, instead of equipping us with objects that increase the gold we earn per battle.

Although I would not like them to add excessive complexity to the game that overwhelms the player and makes N3 an unrecognizable game compared to its predecessors.

Since the complex does not always equal the best

[wild adder]

You know, there's a reason Vaithe=Vados right? Amelie and Logan found the Chaos discs and probably found Vaithe along with it so they based Vados on Vaithe, haven't played micromon so have no idea about him though.

[grim thicket]

In the Abyssals DLC Logan says that unlike with the four chaos specimens, in the case of Vaithe, his disk was too damaged so he could not "revive" it. So they chose to create Vados, and here the developers wanted them to have numerous similarities with Vaithe.

In fact, Vados could be considered the strongest "chaos exemplar" 😄

[drowsy slate]

Although the million dollar question is how they could have gotten those disks, if it is assumed that Micromon's Pixekai was destroyed and erased from existence, how could they get hold of them or at least how could they replicate these creatures?

[drowsy slate]

It's true that only a small portion of the Nexomon fandom has played Micromon.

However, it is still playable, you just have to search hard enough and know some computer tricks...nothing more 😉

[honest garnet]

Yes, you may still be able to play it, but no one is going to waste their time playing a game from 2014 that also has no significance for the future of the saga.

[honest garnet]

I would have my doubts if Vados could be considered an exemplary chaos, or just an artificial tyrant / aberration

[honest garnet]

To find out more you must go to the two secret laboratories that are spread throughout the Precursor Valley.

The first is in the mining cave where there are no tyrants.

In that laboratory you will find one of the disks and a map that tells you how to get to the second laboratory that is located at one of the exits of the arcane labyrinth.

[grim thicket]

Micromon serves above all to understand the N1 references and to not be somewhat excluded (sometimes) from the game.

In N2 that doesn't happen as much, although if you have played it much better since you will surely catch all the mini-references that appear

What they did change about Micromon is the rarity of "godly". I suppose it is equivalent to what is considered "ultimate" in N2

[drowsy slate]

Both

[drowsy slate]

In N2 only the Vados reference appears, if I remember correctly there is no other

[drowsy slate]

I guess "Godly" is superior to "Ultimate"

[honest garnet]

Since rarities are going away in N3, I don't think that matters right now XD

In short, forget everything you remember about N1 and N2, because N3 is a new beginning from 3D, so few things will be the same, if not almost none since they said it would be something totally new and different.

Even the central story will also change in some way since it is an open world where you can come and go without any problem, and that will make the story and its events quite flexible when it comes to occurring in one order or another (it depends on the player)

It would be something like this that you can reach the same end but through different paths, not just through a single route like in N1 or N2

[frosty ravine]

I'm assuming the main story lore will stay the same of course

[honest garnet]

I think that since it is an open world, there will be different paths that you can follow to advance, and the player may even be able to make decisions during the story that affect its development. For example, depending on the player's decisions you can have several endings.

And thus make the story a little more interactive with key decisions

[grim thicket]

I hope that N3 introduces innovative elements not only in the game mechanics but also in the course of the story itself, and in how to live and experience the story of N3

The open world is the first innovative and groundbreaking mechanic compared to N1 and N2, I hope that apart from this, they will soon reveal other innovative things regarding the story.

[drowsy slate]

I wouldn't be so engrossed in the story since it will be one of the last things we find out about.

I assume that they will reveal the story (or part of it) to us a few days before the release or even a day after (like the special nexomons)

[drowsy slate]

As for there being different endings, I doubt it.

It would seem more likely to me that the player could choose or make certain decisions during the story

But that the player's decisions have so much significance as to change events, I doubt it.

[grim thicket]

It wouldn't seem crazy to me that there was time travel either, but it makes me doubt since they would have to recreate the scenarios of N1 and N2 to make it plausible.

And that would take them much more time and therefore much more work.

[honest garnet]

@grim thicketI remind you that time here is the least important thing, they have been preparing the game for a long time, so if they take a few more months to recreate other past scenarios in 3D, go ahead with it, since a few more months will not make any difference.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the N1 or N2 scenarios in their 3D format. It would make me a little nostalgic but I would enjoy it enormously.

[honest garnet]

I would only see the time travel thing as possible if they made some N1 or N2 scenarios in 3D so that they would not clash with the established three-dimensional format of the game.

Also, for them to reveal the special nexomons, there is still a lot of time left, now they are showing us what will be the regular nexomons, which I think they said there were many, so there are still many common nexomons to be revealed XD

[drowsy slate]

Honestly, I hope that N3 is the Nexomon game that has the most nexomons and covers the entire franchise.

N1 (310)
N2 (427)
N3 (?)

I have in mind that maybe there could be around 500-550 in N3

Maybe up to 600

[wild adder]

I doubt it's going to go up to 600

[grim thicket]

I see it likely to be 600 or higher (that is, twice as much as N1)

I mean, don't worry, you're going to have a loooooooot to capture.

[grim thicket]

I see that figure as possible, the truth is, maybe not exceeding it, but just 600 could be

[wild adder]

They're just moving to 3D, I'd say 500 or around that number

Since they're ueed to 2D

But we can't always expect every new game to have more Nexomon

[honest garnet]

I hope that in the case of N3, its villain will be captureable at the end of the game.

Hopefully we can capture the master of the abyssals and use him in our team

[wild adder]

The Abyssal Queen could be anything and probably catchable so maybe considering we can catch ziegler

[honest garnet]

Taking into account that both villains (Omnicron and Vados) were villains of N1 and N2 and at the end of said games they were captureable, I hope that the same thing happens with the villain of N3

[honest garnet]

Ziegler could be caught very late in N1 and as a roaming Nexomon in N2

"Abyssal Queen" may be possible to capture once you have all the N3 nexomon (as a final prize)

[wild adder]

Hmmm

There's atleast a chance, no matter how low that Pvp will be there and a final prize could make it too broken and I wouldn't want any Nexomon Banned

[honest garnet]

Of course, surely the abyssal queen would be the only "nexomon" you couldn't use in PVP

[wild adder]

Why tho?

[honest garnet]

You could use it for the postgame or for a hypothetical DLC

[wild adder]

Legendaries don't have to be too broken

I would say you can use it

But it should be Ultimate

Btw nerf Ults

Omnisun and Vados are absolutely broken

[honest garnet]

I think that the Abyssal Queen would not fall within the "Legendaries" it would be something superior.

For example: divine class or deity

Much superior to the ultimate or legendary class

[wild adder]

Depends how strong she is but maybe

Just hope the devs don't make it beyond broken

[honest garnet]

Ziegler I think is listed as "Legendary" not even Ultimate

[wild adder]

Ziegler is Omnicron Level, why would he

[honest garnet]

Not even Omnicron is Ultimare

[wild adder]

2 reasons for that

[honest garnet]

Ziegler is superior to Omnicron

[wild adder]

Omnisun and Vados could be stronger

[wild adder]

Oh yeah that's true

Forgot how the Netherworld works

[honest garnet]

For PVP I don't think you can use legendaries, they will only be common nexomons.

Unless there is a special space/game mode within PVP where you can use them

[honest garnet]

I think Ziegler is superior to both, since he is not even a nexomon...it is something else

[wild adder]

No, I don't think so

N1 player beat Ziegler

Vados should scale to that somewhat but even if he didn't

Omnisun also beat Ziegler

And Vados scales to Omnisun

[pale meadow]

600 seems excessive, especially since only a few are returning. Also you have to take into account the fact that it is now 3d so making models and animations for each of them takes time and money. Balance wise, there would be too many mons that would feel too similar, 300-400 sounds like a decent number

[wild adder]

Yeah

[honest garnet]

The first battle vs Ziegler in the Underworld (Ziegler defeats the player)

Then before facing Omnicron we did defeat Ziegler but he probably didn't even fight with all his strength

[wild adder]

That's dream hax

That's why in the end Ziegler won

[honest garnet]

300-400 would seem few to me to be honest XD

[wild adder]

Mb

[honest garnet]

I expect at least 500 or similar

[wild adder]

I mean N1 player

[wild adder]

I'd say 450

Moving to 3D is hard

[honest garnet]

Ziegler's nightmare falls apart when we defeat him outside. If not the nightmare would have continued active

[pale meadow]

How is that not enough, you only use 6 throughout most of the game anyway, a lot of nexomon barely appear in the previous games, that would mean that nexomon have even less screen time

[wild adder]

No, Miriam continued it

[wild adder]

That was a typo error

I meant N1 player

[grim thicket]

For people who love collecting them and using them alternatively, it would be nice to have a quantity larger than N1 and N2.

I think the figure of 500 would be quite balanced.

[grim thicket]

You're wrong, Ziegler's nightmare collapses when we defeat him but Miriam ensures that the nightmare continues to exist.

[pale meadow]

Has anybody used more than 10 teams of six (so 60) in a single playthrough?

[grim thicket]

Regarding Ziegler's strength, I think he would defeat all the nexomons seen so far, including Solus, Omnisun, Vados and Protovados.

Ziegler would even defeat the Abyssals

[pale meadow]

Because with 500, imagining everything is a 3 stage line, that would give 200 lines, nobody is going to alternate between 200 potential mons

[grim thicket]

For the PVP I suppose you can create more than one team and use it as it suits you, so as not to always use the same one.

[wild adder]

We can't always expect that there to be more mons than the last

[grim thicket]

That is why the diversity of Nexomon that one has is important

[pale meadow]

You can easily have an in depth PvP system with 400 mons, especially with only 7 elements

[grim thicket]

Taking into account that it is an open world, and that it will be a vast and wide world, I think it would be the most logical

[wild adder]

There should be a lot of mons but we shouldn't always expect more than the last

[grim thicket]

Unless it allows having more than 6 members on the team, although I find it unlikely but why not?

[grim thicket]

Considering that most Nexomon are probably combined types that will give it more diversity

[grim thicket]

I sincerely hope that N3 surpasses the previous two games in everything XDD

[wild adder]

Me as well, but don't forget devs are human

[drowsy slate]

I think it will not be common to see monotype nexomon or that they only have affinities of a single type.

The normal thing will be that almost all nexomon can be of two or more types

60% 30% 10% for example

[pale meadow]

End of the day I prefer quality and uniqueness compared to quantity and the risk of some mons being too similar

[drowsy slate]

I think they will be quite cautious with the amount of Nexomon they add, especially if almost all of them are new (450 I think there will be)

However, I have sky-high expectations for N3 now after seeing the different devlogs published by JV

[drowsy slate]

I agree that quality is better than quantity, N2's designs were generally good and were quite diverse.

Taking into account that 3D design costs a lot and requires a lot of time and effort, I think the person who said 600 was quite freaked out XD

[drowsy slate]

Honestly, since I think the developers are absolute geniuses, I hope they give us quantity of quality XD

[wild adder]

The devs learn from their mistakes

[drowsy slate]

For now, the few nexomons that they have shown us in 3D have a quite promising design, I hope they don't lower the level and neglect it...

[wild adder]

but a Jvemon said, they aren't geniuses but improve rapidly

A better quality in my opinion

[drowsy slate]

That's what geniuses have, they learn quickly from their mistakes XD

[wild adder]

Not all but ok

[drowsy slate]

Obviously I prefer 450 with an attractive and cool design to 550 with a repetitive and simple design

[wild adder]

Yeah

I'd like most fully evolved forms to be viable

[honest garnet]

No, to begin with, geniuses do not fail, they know things without having previously learned them...

[wild adder]

?

Geniuses can fail

Sarcasm, If there is, I just didn't pick up on it.

[honest garnet]

The developers know what we want and how we want it and they will give everything to satisfy their community of fans, there is no doubt.

But you also have to understand all the work behind a 3D game. In addition to how risky it is to make the leap in quality from 2D to 3D

[honest garnet]

BIINGO🤣

I thought it was obvious because of the ellipsis at the end XD

[honest garnet]

Honestly, I want to think that we have more or less Nexomon in the world of N3, those that we have will surely leave us with satisfied expectations.

I wouldn't venture to say that you will see close to 500, since it depends on what the designers want.

A clue, in case it helps you, is that in the Steam summary it says "hundreds of Nexomons", that means that there will be at least 200 XDDD

[pale meadow]

You don't need to be a genius to have a good idea, there was even a study in the 50s that showed that many geniuses tend to live fairly modest lives compared to those that were deemed "inferior"

Success is not calculated on intellect but a bunch of other factors

[wild adder]

Yeah, just need to learn how to improve on mistakes among other things

[wild adder]

Yeah

[wild adder]

The number of Nexomon isn't really something I care much about after this conversation, just that the more there are, the more I have to catch

[honest garnet]

However, a genius surely has many more brilliant ideas than a normal person.

Although, if you can come up with a good idea using only logic and common sense, I understand that.

[pale meadow]

If he can't make use of those ideas, they just end up being useless

[honest garnet]

Precisely, I remember that in the other Nexomon games, I enjoyed catching and hunting the Nexomons to complete the collection within the game for pure collecting. When I finished the nexomon collections of both games, I felt great satisfaction XD

In my case, the more there are, the better.

[wild adder]

Yes

[honest garnet]

In this case, developers can apply any idea they have as long as it is correct and viable.

There's a reason they own this franchise XD

I suppose that the reduction or simplification of the ghost and psychic type to the arcane may be a sign that all the nexomons that were psychic and ghosts will be "simplified" so there will be a kind of selection to see who appears and which does not.

[grim thicket]

This is not the case, the developers cannot do what they want at all times, since before starting to create the game, there is a whole planning period behind it and they have to adjust and adapt to it.

Not because one day they wake up inspired and have an idea, they can just include it since they must respect the initial planning and the script of the game, so to speak.

[grim thicket]

It doesn't have to be that way, the arcane type may cover a large amount of nexomon. In fact, nexomon of both types (psychic and ghost) will be arcane so it does not have to lead to a reduction in the number of nexomon.

[grim thicket]

I think that the number of nexomons is important only to know the richness of creatures that N3 will have, if it will be a poor game in terms of creatures or if it will be a rich and varied game

[wild adder]

We already know they deliver, no need to worry

[drowsy slate]

As for creatures, Nexomon games have never been poor in that aspect nor have they cared for variety in their designs. In fact the last two games have fulfilled their function quite well.

Hopefully there will continue to be that humor so characteristic of Nexomon where the characters break the fourth wall.

This is in some way the hallmark of Nexomon

[drowsy slate]

Perhaps there may be a slight predominance in the arcane type nexomons compared to those of the other types but not too exaggerated.

Numerous nexomons have already been revealed that may be perfectly arcane.

Furthermore, there are not so many types for the difference to be considerable.

Over time they will surely add more types or cut types to merge it into one as they did this time.

[grim thicket]

I think that they should not fall into the mistake that there are an absurd number of types, as long as there are the basic ones and some special ones, it is already fine.

When I say special I mean: the recent arcane type or for example the "omnitype" that was discussed here some time ago

[grim thicket]

I think that if they put too many types or if the nexomons had too complex type affinities, that would somehow overwhelm and make the player experience more confusing, messy and too complex.

[honest garnet]

For starters, presumably they will have their prominent affinities

[drowsy slate]

@honest garnetIt was already known, JV himself confirmed it, and it is also nothing new, it could be intuited.

[drowsy slate]

It depends, if you are a player who prefers classic, simple and conventional mechanics, maybe it is good for you that there are few types, but I prefer the complex, hopefully in the future they end up adding more types to the Nexomon universe

[grim thicket]

Complex is not always best.

Sometimes it makes everything worse and the project that has been built for years is destroyed.

[grim thicket]

I like complexity and difficulty to a certain point, but I'm honestly not one to want a lot of types added just for the sake of adding them for no reason.

As with the puzzles, riddles or dungeons that are rumored to appear in N3, I like them to be difficult to a limit, that is, challenging and that they pose a challenge to the player but without becoming almost impossible to solve. overcome since that only frustrates and makes the player's experience greatly impaired

[grim thicket]

Apart from the affinities, as we have said before, the affinity percentages were also confirmed.

This aspect is something very difficult to assess and measure since we do not know what aspects or what parameters will be followed to establish the percentages of each dualtype nexomon

[elfin karma]

Prob 300

cuz this is 3d, not 2d

maybe 350 with dlc

[honest garnet]

I sign 300 nexomons with a great 3D design. Although the truth is that I wish there were a few more...

[honest garnet]

Some of those that have been published weekly in 2D are quite basic designs, I hope they know how to transform them properly into 3D to give them that quality that some of them lack.

[elfin karma]

I mean since the rarity system is removed

there would be a lot more options to build a team

since the previous games had a lot of commons-rare and it had 300-400 for the dex

So 300 for 3d with no rarity other than legendaries actually don’t sound that bad to me

[honest garnet]

N3 would be divided into legendaries and the others could be considered common.

[honest garnet]

300 nexomons that in N1 or N2 were equivalent to ultra rare or mega rare... that would be fine.

[honest garnet]

Furthermore, there are surely hardly any nexomons that do not evolve and that only have one evolutionary phase (the initial one) in their chain.

Most nexomons probably evolve and have up to three evolutionary phases.

[elfin karma]

300 is a lot

u pick 6 out of 300

If they each have 3 stages

That’s only 18/300 lol

say u had a hard time picking 6 out of like 30 designs u really liked

And each had 3 stages

That’s only 90/300 lol

I think u r underestimating how many mons 300 is lol

300-400 is more than enough with dlc included

[grim thicket]

I seem to remember that they said that only a minority of the Nexomon would not evolve (leaving out the legendaries, which obviously did not evolve under normal conditions)

[elfin karma]

And + the rarity system is removed

which gives more options

[grim thicket]

Most of them will have three or two stages.

[grim thicket]

A hypothetical DLC could add about 30 new ones or so

[elfin karma]

There r 310 in n1

[grim thicket]

Of those 300, maybe 15 are legendary / tyrants

[elfin karma]

381 in n2, 427 with dlc

they were decent enough options for both games to form a team of 6

and that was WITH rarity involved

so with rarity removed, 300 is more than enough

[elfin karma]

Yea ik

300-350/400 with dlc

seems really reasonable imo

[grim thicket]

400 already sounds a little more reasonable XD

[elfin karma]

Yea ik

[grim thicket]

Surely the DLC will introduce more legendaries

[elfin karma]

It’s the devs first time diving into 3d

so I feel like 300 is a decent amount

[elfin karma]

Positively

[grim thicket]

And surely the N3 starters, there will be one of each type

[elfin karma]

u know how many types there be?

Cuz I did hear some types were removed/merged like arcane for ex

[grim thicket]

Right now I don't know exactly how many types there are in total counting the arcane

[elfin karma]

What’s ur prediction

On the release date year

I’m leaning towards 2026 haha

[grim thicket]

plant-leaf
fire
air
arcane (psychic-ghost)
normal
electric
mineral

I don't know if I left any

[elfin karma]

water

[grim thicket]

Eight

Eight starters

[elfin karma]

There were 9 in n2

so if they merged 2 into arcane

Yea that makes 8

[grim thicket]

After the fusion of the arcane type, a type is cut and therefore a starter

[elfin karma]

😢

[grim thicket]

Surely if any N2 nexomon appears that was psychic or ghost it will be arcane.

For example, if Solus appears, it will be of the arcane type.

[shy skiff]

Plant, Fire, Water, Electric, Mineral, Wind, Arcane

There is no Normal type.

[grim thicket]

Have they also eliminated the normal type?😖

[drowsy slate]

Maybe they will replace it with another one later.

[honest garnet]

Will a new type be created to replace the normal one?

[honest garnet]

It's not that he was a particularly strong or powerful type either.

But let them just remove it...

[shy skiff]

No. “Normal” types would simply not have a dominant type affinity.

[wild adder]

The fact that most people says the game releases in 2026 saddens me cause it means it's still gonna be a long time

[elfin karma]

Yea but

2026 is actually a great educated guess

It will be after the release switch 2

[wild adder]

Yeah, a year and one quarter away

[elfin karma]

and it’s just enough time for enough devlogs to be posted

[wild adder]

Devlogs won't be posted a lot

[elfin karma]

ik

[wild adder]

cause of if they post too many things, then we know everything

Wait give me a sec

[elfin karma]

Late 2026 seems like a great guess

Haha

[wild adder]

there are around 36 Nexomon leaked

It was said that Nexomon will be released each week or around that time frame

Wait actually don't worry

[elfin karma]

I don’t think a release date is announced yet

[wild adder]

My theory met an end point

All I know it will release before 8 years

from now

Which is obvious

[elfin karma]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-obvious-captain-thankscaptainobvious-gif-18783644

[wild adder]

Lol

[wild adder]

I alr said it's obv

[shy skiff]

Time flies by really fast. We’re already mid-August and it’s December again. Then it’s already 2025.

[wild adder]

True

[honest garnet]

oh okeeey, we were discussing here the possibility that the developers were considering, which was to implement something like an omni-type (that is, a normal but improved type)

[honest garnet]

At first it was speculated that it would be available by the end of 2025. But the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if it were released in mid-2026 (in summer).

I say summer, because if you look at all the past Nexomon games, and even Micromon, were released at that time of year, taking advantage of the fact that people have more freedom to play than during the rest of the year.

[honest garnet]

Possibly, N3 will arrive for both the normal Switch (S1) and the S2

[grim thicket]

Patience friend, before publishing and uploading the devlogs and progress you are making, you should test them in the game itself and see that they work correctly.

It is true that they may not post a large number of devlogs to maintain the community's expectation, but in each devlog they tell us many things, some of them are not closely linked to what the devlog refers to.

That is, there are few devlogs posted but in each one they give us various information about what the game is going to be like.

They do a lot with little... that's how I see it XD

[honest garnet]

It may sound somewhat confirmed, but at this point and with the hype that exists, we accept whatever they give us, the truth is

[honest garnet]

Yeees, what would be the point of playing N3 if we already know everything 2 years before its release?

[honest garnet]

Don't look at it that way, think that the longer it takes, the more the desire to play it increases, approach it that way.

Good things take time

[drowsy slate]

They will possibly show almost all or perhaps all the common nexomons in the weekly publication, excluding the expected starters and legendaries

[drowsy slate]

I laughed a lot when I searched the internet and saw pages that said it would be launched in 2024... great joke

[drowsy slate]

Honestly, the more you want time to pass, the slower it passes.

In this case, there is so much desire for the release of N3 that time passes quite slowly in this regard, I won't tell you the years anymore XD

[honest garnet]

One question, out of simple curiosity, am I the only one who, when I saw the devlog where they showed us some Nexomon in 3D format, I thought there was a certain resemblance to the design of Skylanders?🤣 🤣 🤣

[honest garnet]

Yeah, I think they will show us all the common nexomons in the weekly reveals

[honest garnet]

Really, the less we know about the game, the better (I mean story, and events)

The mechanics do have to be revealed. At most, they could be reserved and not reveal some to try to surprise us, but most of them will be revealed.

In addition, they must delve into the PVP issue, I suppose that creating that game mode will take them a considerable amount of time.

[pale meadow]

If they show all the common nexomon in weekly reveals, if there are 300 nexomon, you do realise it will take 6 years (9 years if it's 450)

[grim thicket]

They won't even show them all.

They showed all the ones that appeared in the teaser and in the Steam screenshots. Apart from those, they will show completely new ones but I guess they will only be the main ones.

Maybe they can show practically all of them if, as the release date approaches, they show one a day or show several daily.

[drowsy slate]

I suppose that as we get closer to the release they will show nexomons more and more often, until they publish several a day or similar

There may come a time when they show seven nexomon a day or thereabouts

[grim thicket]

Seven a day...sounds a bit exaggerated.

Maybe they do show more and more but I don't think they show so many in a single day.

[honest garnet]

They will surely show more when they publish the second teaser trailer.

Maybe we'll have a teaser trailer showing the entire world of N3 in more depth in 2025.

Considering that the first teaser was just to introduce and so that we were aware of what was to come

[shy skiff]

There are 52 weeks in a year. Let’s say I reveal 60-65 new Nexomon total in that span. In two years, you get 120-130 total. In 3 years, you get 180-195. And you still haven’t seen everything.

Personally, I don’t wanna show all of them. But probably a week before the game launches, if JV decides to show all of them, I am perfectly okay since it’s a good way to hype the game before release.

Of course, not everyone likes to be spoiled. So we’ll leave it up to you guys to avoid them.

[grim thicket]

In my opinion, I think that the most optimal thing would be to show almost all the common nexomon during the remaining time except for some specific ones so as not to reveal all the cards in a spread.

These specific cases could be final evolutionary phases or evolutions that we did not expect at first.

[drowsy slate]

I see it well that each person decides under their own responsibility if they want to spoil themselves

[honest garnet]

I can understand both positions, both the one of showing them all and the option of not doing so, it depends on the priorities they have

[grim thicket]

The second teaser trailer will surely be more focused on the gameplay of the game (combats, captures...)

[drowsy slate]

I am more in favor of the idea of ​​revealing them all and letting everyone decide if they want to see them all or continue with the intrigue and discover them in the game itself.

[grim thicket]

I wouldn't do that, I would reserve some to continue preserving the surprise effect

[shy skiff]

I personally don’t want to be spoiled. But hey, what can I do? lol

[grim thicket]

Hopefully JV chooses to preserve the mystery and uncertainty until the end

[drowsy slate]

In past installments were all common nexomons revealed or were some kept secret until players played the game?

[pale meadow]

They were all revealed in the database when extinction came out (besides the legendaries)

[drowsy slate]

Well, if they did it that way, I guess it would happen this time too. Surely it is their way of proceeding and making the creatures known...

Was it like that in N1 too?

I'm hoping that in N3 there will still be secret/hidden legendary nexomons just like in the past two games

[honest garnet]

When you say "secret" nexomons, what exactly do you mean?

[grim thicket]

It must be taken into account that the "secret" nexomons that they talk about and speculate about N3 will be the majority, if not all, legendary, so they will be within the group of non-revealable ones.

For example, in their day the N2 tyrants were "secret" nexomons that had no place in the game's history but did appear remotely as traveling nexomons in certain areas of the game.

[grim thicket]

I think he is referring to the tyrants who in N2 could appear in the grass exceptionally and who were not any of those who were part of the story.

The ghost type tyrant, the normal type tyrant...

These types of nexomons that are on the margins of history but I hope they continue to appear and that the devs continue betting on them

[honest garnet]

I'm sure there will be some in N3, but since there will be no grass, the encounters will not be so random but rather you can provoke them, that is, I understand that in N3 you can wait until the nexomon that you are looking for or that you need comes out.

To put it another way, "you will see the nexomon coming" and the randomness of N1 and N2 will disappear

Unless these secret or special nexomons cannot be seen with the naked eye and depends on other external factors

[grim thicket]

Probably in N3 there will still be the decoys/lures that they implemented during the Abyssals DLC, the truth is that that made the hunt easier as long as you had sighted the nexomon you were looking for.

I hope they don't remove the decoy/lure system because it was a great added improvement

[grim thicket]

I don't think it's as simple as "see the nexomon coming". Surely randomness is still present and there are nexomons more likely to appear than others, which will choose to hide on a regular basis and it will be difficult for them to appear in the open world

[drowsy slate]

It would be nice if N3 had a broader and more varied repertoire of nexomon movements than in N1 or N2.

Since in the previous games the movements were almost the same and many of them appeared in all nexomon

I hope there is a wider range of movements

[shy skiff]

What do you mean by ‘movements’?

[drowsy slate]

I am referring to the movements of the nexomon to fight in battles against tamers or against other nexomon

That there is a wider range of movements associated with each type

[grim thicket]

What I would improve regarding the attacks of the Nexomon is that a mechanic could be implemented that includes being able to make combined movements with other nexomon that you have on the team at that precise moment.

It would have to be with nexomons that had compatible affinities with each other, obviously

[keen pebble]

The combined movements you speak of could be an innovative mechanic, although if they add it they must be careful so that it does not disappoint.

It would be something similar to Pokémon's z moves (but it wasn't a very spectacular mechanic either). In my opinion, the movement system would not be something that would change or at least it would not be the first priority

[keen pebble]

Do you plan to increase the number of nexomons revealed weekly as the release date approaches?

[pale meadow]

Id assume that when a release date is announced, it will be accompanied by several monster reveals so Ross will prepare the concept art of those shown probably still on a weekly basis. I don't think he should reveal the concept art for every single mon before release, some could be revealed after the release, especially more complex designs. This would also allow people who don't want to be completely spoiled to not be

For example a lot of mons are 3 stage evolutions, I would like if only the first 2 stages are revealed for most of them, that way you have a general idea of what they look like and still be surprised

Also, if Ross reveals some of the more complex designs post release, he can give an in depth description of what inspiration he took for the design

[keen pebble]

I agree that they should keep some surprises in store, such as, for example, some evolution of some nexomon that we do not expect.

[pale meadow]

Evolutions that change to much compared to their prior forms are a double edged sword, some people may love the new take while others are disappointed in what it becomes

However there are branch evolutions apparently this time around so I'm curious to see how that goes, probably with different affinities

[keen pebble]

In fact, Ross has already been showing the design on which he based his own for a season.

for example in this last nexomon that they published

[pale meadow]

It's pretty surface level stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if Ross wanted to go more in depth, like the choice of colour palette, the general feel from the mon, original ideas for it that were scrapped...

[keen pebble]

although it is true that the descriptions are somewhat brief XD

[keen pebble]

But not only in the nexomon but it would be nice if they also did it in the design of the game characters or the cities, etc.

[honest garnet]

What I see as something "basic" so to speak are the descriptions of the nexomon.

[honest garnet]

I wouldn't mind if they showed all the creatures before launch

Although I could understand that there are people who want to be surprised while playing the game

[shy skiff]

Nope. Unless a release date is given, I will continue the current pace of Nexomon reveals.

The Nexomon descriptions are pretty brief because I don’t know their exact affinities.

[honest garnet]

Unless it is a nexomon that was already in N1 or N2 (in this case it could be revealed in the same week since it is a "repeated" nexomon (already seen previously in the other games)

[pale meadow]

The monster reveals are mostly because Ross is excited to share designs on a weekly basis (as any artist would be). I don't expect any plot relevant reveals like tyrants, it's a neat little weekly ritual to continuously get people excited for the game. Ross is doing a great job on how they're revealed, throwing in a variety of mons, just keep doing what you're doing 💪

[honest garnet]

The developers and the entire team are doing things well, giving data on the game little by little to maintain the expectation and so that we can theorize and speculate although it is always the one who thinks it is too little...

Don't expect many more devlogs either XD

since I suppose that here they will say the basic things so that we have some basic notions of the game

[drowsy slate]

This is the same as when you want a plant to stay alive, if you don't water it it will end up dying.

And also if you add too much water it doesn't do it any good either.

[drowsy slate]

The truth is that when I see the notification that Ross has added a new nexomon, I am very happy because when the first N3 nexomon began to be uploaded I thought that this initiative would disappear over time but I am happy to see that they continue to show us the designs and some info. over time.

I am happy to see that to a greater or lesser extent they comply and make their community happy

[grim thicket]

We should not be impatient since the game is scheduled for 2026 and it would not be normal for them to give a disproportionate amount of information now.

We have to understand that the key for N3 to work is that the developers make an effort to maintain the intrigue and reveal as little as possible about the game since the success of the game itself and therefore its profits depends on it.

[pale meadow]

Scheduled for 2026 ? Lol

[grim thicket]

Furthermore, it would be much worse if they released all the nexomon at once, since we would not enjoy them, however this way (one per week) you enjoy more the nexomon that plays at that moment because you know that for the next one you will have to wait another week

[grim thicket]

I remember they said that approximately by the end of 2025, but that it will most likely be gone by early/mid-2026

[pale meadow]

Ive never seen any information about a release date, are you sure it wasn't just speculation?

[grim thicket]

Yes, it is speculated that it could be in 2026 since that is what is estimated, but nothing is confirmed

[honest garnet]

Presumably N3 will come out with the launch of the Switch 2

[pale meadow]

I mean was it an official member of the team that gave that estimation or was it just people on here who think it will come out around that time ?

[honest garnet]

And surely the Switch 2 will be released in 2025-2026 (more or less)

[pale meadow]

I wouldn't make assumptions about N3 release without an official source

[honest garnet]

@pale meadow I don't think any member of the game developers said it.

Surely many were speculating about a possible date...but I don't dare give a release date, not even a year XD

[pale meadow]

Given the wild and random theories that have been a huge trend recently, if people besides the team give information about a release date, don't take it seriously

[honest garnet]

I don't think they even know it themselves.

We also don't know how advanced they are (it is possible that they have been with the game since they finished Extinction or since they finished the Abyssals DLC)

[pale meadow]

Apparently they've been working on it since extinction was released (that's why the abyssal update took so long to release)

[grim thicket]

It doesn't mean that they launched extinction and the next day they were already with 3D.

Even though they have been working on the game for a long time.

Surely when launching Extinction, they discussed the topic of 3D, PVP and so on.

And they started making drafts of the game and the story.

That is to say that although they have been working on it for a long time, they probably did not work on it (world, designs, cities...) until well after Abyssals

[glossy frigate]

I have a doubt, how do you think they explained the history in N3 and who lived in the precursor valley?

[grim thicket]

They may explain it in a dialogue with a character or we may learn more information about the place during the story.

I think that the valley of the precursors that we saw in N2 is closely linked to the seers or some fairly advanced and intelligent civilization.

[pale meadow]

I think the precursor valley will be mid to end game stuff, like it might be brought up early on so the player know that the games "objective" is to interact with it in some way, but I think the main group has to have their own character development before tackling the issues from the previous game. So they'll probably connect it in some way to what happens during the early game, so before knowing more about N3 in general it's impossible to tell

[keen pebble]

I don't know how they will do it so that we understand it and so as not to leave loose ends, what is certain is that at some point in N3 we will find out who really lived there.

In addition to resolving other things about that location that were pending, such as: the issue of the ships, or the issue of the stones on which strange symbols had been written.

I agree that perhaps he is linked with the psychics and who knows if with the great villain of N3

[honest garnet]

Perhaps the developers (jv and company) choose, as in previous games, to start the N3 game by showing one of the final scenes of the game, as well as with Omnicron in N1 or with Vados in N2, perhaps the first image of the game will be of the protagonist and (of Solus, why not) fighting against the creator of the abyssals

[pale meadow]

With the whole going into 3d direction, I feel that they want to expand to a new audience, also, not playing the previous game has never been an issue for new players, so making Solus such an important part of the story doesn't make sense IMO, I think a few name drops and Easter eggs are all that's needed, having to much of the plot requiring knowledge of the previous game's would handicap to many players. Especially in a genre where story isn't that important

[honest garnet]

I hope that Solus appears in the story and not that they simply say that he is missing or presumed dead...😔

Even if he didn't come out in his "human" form and only in his tyrant form... that would be enough

I say the same for the children of Omnicron, I don't ask that they all come out as such and have a crucial role in the story... just that they be mentioned or that they appear in visions or in memories of the past

[grim thicket]

I don't know what others will think...but I see it as more likely that Solus will appear than the children of Omnicron

[glossy frigate]

But don't you think that if Solus appears, they would somehow be obligated for Vados to also appear (since they presumably share his life force)?

So if one appears the other should too

[glossy frigate]

Why?

[grim thicket]

Because it would be more logical for Solus to come out since the children of Omnicron have already completed their cycle so to speak, and their stories are closed.

But in the case of Solus, his story was left open at the end of the N2 postgame, not knowing what his fate would be as king of the nexomon.

[pale meadow]

I would be happy having the Abyssals (even new ones) be the poster legendaries for N3, the Omni family has had their time to shine (they could always come back as dlc). Worst case scenario, Solus and Vados could come back to some extent to link what happened in the older games to N3

For the extinction tyrants (mulcimer, nivalis, Eurus...) maybe there could be some kind of legacy arena where their tamers appear as ghosts and you fight them, their tyrant could be a reward or something for winning like the mulcimer cup, nivalis league etc

It would probably work better as post launch dlc, that way some form of meta can be determined, but in general, I think that's the best way to implement old characters in N3

[grim thicket]

Surely the N3 legendaries are mostly abyssal tyrants, except maybe a couple of them who will be more "exclusive" and therefore more powerful nexomons.

For example, you have to have all the abyssals to be able to capture the latter, making it clear that within the legendaries there are also power scales.

I could even say the same about the final villain (master of the abyssals) taking into account that in both N1 and N2 the villain has been captureable after passing the story and postgame. It is possible that the N3 villain is also captureable but you have to meet certain requirements such as capturing all the nexomons in the game or something like that

[glossy frigate]

The skeletons and bones that appear in the desert captures may belong to Venefelis and the other abyssal tyrants.

[keen pebble]

They may do something similar to what they did with Ivan, the overseer in N2 (in the Frozen Tundra bunker)

[pale meadow]

Could be, but rehashing the same idea might be a bit lazy

[pale meadow]

Ivan was in N2 ?

[steep pike]

As a robot

[honest garnet]

The truth is that I would like the ancient tyrants to appear again, even if they have no impact on the plot, but I would like to see them in some type of event or special area of ​​the game

[honest garnet]

Remus comes out at the end too, they could do the same with some important N2 characters

[honest garnet]

Surely those bones belong to abyssal tyrants, what remains to be seen is if they are the ones we already know or new ones

[pale meadow]

The bones could just be decorative

[grim thicket]

I suppose that if they have put them, it is because they will have some kind of meaning throughout the game.

[grim thicket]

I think that apart from voting on which old nexomons should return, they should also vote to decide which old characters to reincorporate as cameos.

[honest garnet]

Continuing with what I was saying, it would be great if there were a sacred or special area in the game from which you could travel to the past (and see the world of N2 and N1 from N3).

I won't say anything about the story because surely in N3 we will be told what happened to Solus and the Nexomon world in the period of time between N2 and N3.

[drowsy slate]

Do you think that before the end of the year they will introduce us to the main characters of the game (that is, those who appear in the image?

Their names and some basic characteristics about them

[honest garnet]

I think it's still too early to start introducing characters.

I assume this will take place weeks before the game comes out.

But today I think it would be very hasty to do so.

Although well, I wouldn't see it as crazy if they at least told us the name of the blue-haired protagonist.