#Nexomon 3 speculation pt.2 (spoilers for nexomon 1 and 2)

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meager void
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I have 2 more theories in this part, first up is the Abyssals.

Abyssals
The Abyssals are mysterious creatures, with powers that rival tyrants and even stronger foes, It's can of a heads or tails situation if they're Tyrants or not but this theory shines light on all this starting with all about the Enemy (The bad guy at the end of Nexomon 2 Postgame, I'll be using Enemy when referencing it going forward)

The Enemy
**Origin: **Unknown, likely a relative to Omnisun or a descendant, pretty confusing, I'll explain it later.
**Powers:**Creation/Mind Control, could even be both, Advanced intelligence.
**Age:**Unknown

Information
The enemy is the leader of the Abyssals and supposedly their creator, It's mysterious.

How the Enemy control the Abyssals:
When the Player tries to command the Abyssals, they obey her before a red flash happens and then proceed to disobey the Player, so it could be mind control but the Abyssals refer to it as they Creator, but 2 ways could happen from here, the Nexomon get to know who the King/Queen is through some kind of radio in their head and that's why tyrants stopped spawning but the Abyssals listen for a second then proceed to disobey, this could be because of DNA relations as if the Enemy created the same way the dragons were created, Abyssals would see the Enemy as their King/Queen but if the player was a relative/descendant (time travel), their DNA would be similar and because of that, the Abyssals might mistake the Player for the Enemy before either correcting themselves or the Enemy telling them. Another way is that the Enemy found Tyrants who could help in the fight against the Player and humans, the second way is unlikely due to the time gap in the Abyssal tyrants.

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The Abyssals were likely created as Tyrants/Nexomon by the Enemy but then altered like Dragons to obey orders. I'd like to point out that during the creation of the Dragons, Eurus had to become the king because of even if the Dragons are altered, a Nexomon, (Most likely altered or not) would be required to control them.
The difference from Nexomon is= Tyrants, Dragons, Abyssals and Vados
With all this info on Abyssals, I think I can say that the Enemy or "creator" has creation, mind-control and is possibly part/full Nexomon as she could control them like how Eurus controls the Dragons and since her DNA is similar with the Player, they obey for a second or it's a different species controlling them to do it's bidding, I'll bet on the first option because it's probably that or something similar because if her mind control really is that strong surely she could control other beings as well instead of just those nine.

Before I head on to the next theory I'd like to point out the time of Venefelis, Braccus and Kroma. Venefelis came shortly after Omnicron's death, maybe because the Enemy started her taking over the world plan and now that Omnicron is dead, or just timing It can start by killing a being who has powers it's not familiar with (Hilda, the witch for N1). Braccus came the same year the Player was born and was the strongest Abyssal, maybe cause it wanted to kill the Player as a child and Kroma came after realizing the Enemy realizing killing the Player won't work so killing the witch would also help. This could mean either she charges up power and gets stronger so she can create more Abyssals in a less amount of time (more likely in my opinion) or she crates them when she needs them with no power issues when it comes to creating them (less likely cause spawning them all at once to take care of the Player would have basically ensured the Player's death (maybe it's this option and the Player survived cause of plot armor). Time to head on to the next theory.

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Time Travel
In Pt.1 of this, I realized that it was basically confirmed that time travel would come to Nexomon 3 and I have a theory abt this, The girl with statues had shown no relevance in Nexomon 2, maybe she made an appearance between Nexomon 2 and 3 but it could be that the girl is a time travelling statue, it's possible since the teleporting statues in Nexomon 1 didn't seem suspicious to anyone in the game so this could be the same only they're used for time travel instead, another thing is the second (or first I don't know when these pics came out) picture has "into the Timeless Hunt" written on the pic, I'm probably just reading to much into it but it could mean that that statue has smth to do with time and why show two, just show the one with the girl (prob the witch) but they showed two, either there's reason or they're slightly hinting at time travel with the statues.

Thanks for reading

undone walrus
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"beckons the world's past, present and eons to come."

tight badger
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Eurus was the king of the dragons, because they were designed to be mindless creatures that hunt down tyrants. Since Eurus was a tyrant, it was to make him not be a target for the dragons.

Vados for example had a personality but hunted down the tyrants at first because he thought it was the right thing to do, he soon realised the error of his ways.

So the abyssals given the fact that they had their own personality, could have just been independent beings who had similar goals and not mind controlled by the enemy

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The thing I don't get though,

How was time travel confirmed ? Lol

meager void
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No, The Guild wanted to hunt down Eurus but since he was a nonchalant tyrant and the Guild needed to control the tyrants, they chose him and made a deal with Lydia. Remember, Eurus was still a tyrant ad Lydia was a renegade.

Vados only stopped because the Player and proven he was a good guy and also by killing the player, he also dies, since the player combined their life forces.

No, they said it themselves that the creator put something in their head, a goal and they weren't necessarily mind-controlled like no personality, just given an order to do.

Time travel was confirmed by the steam page, talking about "Beckons the world's past, present and eons to come." That wouldn't be just there for no reason. Although it's just a guess

tight badger
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But nothing you said contradicts what I said...

obsidian iris
# meager void **Time Travel** In Pt.1 of this, I realized that it was basically confirmed that...

I have a theory that's most likely true at the end of the abbysals the enemy/girl says this ""fall.. and that, was checkmate. you have lost to me dear old king..
Just how long have you dragged this on? No matter... Stubborn. So stubborn.... Now your realm and your people lie in waste...but I ought to concede, it was all not for naught indeed your. demise will become my paramount stepping stone.... Rest now great king of monsters... And farewell player!""
1: fall and that checkmate. You have Lost to me dear old king . Doesn't sound like she means the player the new king.

2: just how long have you dragged this. Further implies she doesn't mean us the player because we're less then 20 years old. and she as the master of abbysals is probably thousands or eons older then us

3: stubborn. So stubborn now your people and your realm lie in waste.. but I ought to concide, it was all not for naught indeed your demise will become my paramount steeping stone. Combining q2 she and king of the monsters Omnicron might have been fighting for eacothers realm and the both have been fighting for a long time. And paramount steeping stone might imply they were fighting for eacothers realm for something bigger

3.5:and omincron coming to our world might have been because Omnicron was losing the battle and thus he decided to come to our world to avoide fighting for a while.

4: rest now great king of monsters and farewell player. Further implies she means both Omnicron and player/you

tight badger
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Time travel isn't confirmed it could just mean it's a battle through the âgés, it doesn't mean that it won't happen, it just doesn't mean that it definitely will

meager void
obsidian iris
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meager void
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She might be cocky, cause the way she said your realm lie in waste is weird as even at the end of Nexomon 2 (not postgame) they talk about King (Player name) being the coolest nexomon, so he might still be alive and peace is probably still there, so for whatever reason, she's sure she'll win

obsidian iris
meager void
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Oh yeah, I have a minor theory, the normal and nexomon dimension are intertwined, I say this because of Nexomite, a gem used in Nexomon 1 and never talked about again, weird that a gem in earth affects nexomon, it could be forgotten by the devs, but just a minor theory

obsidian iris
meager void
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Nexomite

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it affects nexomon

obsidian iris
meager void
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In nexomon 1

obsidian iris
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That's a filler content in nexomon 1 to track the legendary I think

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On that note what about Ziegler and he's role in the world nexomon

meager void
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Near the end of Nexomon 1, the player uses it to prevent the Primordial tyrants from transforming for a while.

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Could have been used for fighting tyrants in Nexomon 2

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It makes Nexomon weaker

obsidian iris
meager void
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From what i've heard, JV hates metta and removed him

obsidian iris
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meager void
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Nexomite is used to make a tracker for legendarys in nx1

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meager void
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Oh mb i meant Nexonium

obsidian iris
meager void
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meager void
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This is the scene where the player gets it and Ulzar tells them to not rust nexomon before they have a battle, mirror match

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check this vid

obsidian iris
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I know but that nexomite right

meager void
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No I meant Nexonium, that's mb

obsidian iris
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By the way do you know malk vados and the chaos nexomons are from micromon

meager void
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No' i didn't

obsidian iris
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What's mb?

tight badger
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Just as a general fyi, it has been confirmed that Solus is presumed dead, but the circumstances aren't clear (on purpose) and that he is at least missing

meager void
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No i only knew malk

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obsidian iris
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tight badger
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It was a post here a long time ago, either JV or Ross

meager void
obsidian iris
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meager void
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They have a shared life force

obsidian iris
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Oh I forgot

meager void
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So if Solus dead, vados dead, maybe he can track Solus

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if he's missing

obsidian iris
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Wait then all tyrants from nx2 are missing

tight badger
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It was posted maybe a year ago, it was early in the nexomon 3 discussions, no idea where to find it

meager void
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it's not a must that it's a shared life force

obsidian iris
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I suppose he still could be in the story

meager void
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Solus did it so that Vados doesn't kill him

tight badger
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Vados hasn't been discussed, but he definitely won't be in N3

obsidian iris
meager void
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Yh probably

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It's gonna be chaos

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again

obsidian iris
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Who's chaos

meager void
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`Everyone's worried

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I mean

obsidian iris
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Oh I get it

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And yeah the world's definitely on fire at the beginning of nx3

tight badger
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There might not be a ruler ?

obsidian iris
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Or the 6 primordials we don't know

meager void
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Remember the kids thought that the world is peaceful, Solus' capturing probably begins at the beginning of Nexomon 3's story

tight badger
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So far nexomon 3 seems rather upbeat so I doubt it's too dark and gloomy, at least not a dystopian world

obsidian iris
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Might be

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meager void
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Yh that's the chaos, everyone's scared, perfect for the Enemy or "creator"

obsidian iris
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Now way she's the creator

meager void
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Tha's what the Abyssals call her

obsidian iris
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She couldn't even defeat Omnicron

meager void
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iffy point there

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Wait a min

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I just realized

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She calls Omnicron, King

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Shes

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probably a Nexomon then

obsidian iris
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Maybe Solus because he's young tho the 6 primordials are still there

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Nah she probably calls him king out of respect for a enemy or she's the lost tyrant of time and she is actually a he

meager void
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Ii saw a post by someone saying that they might become more immersed in the world by being celebrities, maybe they could help that way

obsidian iris
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Who the 6 primordials

meager void
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Fona, Ventra, Luxa, Grunda and others

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I forgot their names

obsidian iris
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If I have to say so the all 6 primordials are as strong as Solus but probably not omnisun

meager void
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Yeah

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Why can Solus learn all elements btw?

obsidian iris
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By the way why does he reverse to being Solus after evolving into Omnisun or is it just a form and not an evolution like mega

meager void
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Unless the dad is some kind of multiple element being

obsidian iris
meager void
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or wind

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ground

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electricity

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Infact

obsidian iris
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He is a multi type nexomon just like Omnicron and vados but can't show it because the game will break

tight badger
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Don't get too invested in the primordials, if they were a big part of the game they would've been announced already, people have been asking for them since day 1

meager void
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Not psychic

obsidian iris
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Because he is the opposite vados

meager void
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meager void
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Too much for Nexomon's age rating? Idk

tight badger
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Normal was an all rounder type in the first game that made it busted, in extinction, it's the "basic" type, psychic and ghost were made to be the special "rule-breaking" types

meager void
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Ok

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When do you think Nexomon 3 is releasing?

obsidian iris
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I'll say it again Omnicron vados Solus/omnisun are nexomons with all types but it can't be shown in game because then the nexomon will have no weakness and all efectivenes and the reason for Solus being pshycic is because nx1 didn't have any better types to give Omnicron and nx2 had 9 types but they can't just make a 10th gaming breaking type for 2 nexomon thats why vados got the dark type and Solus got the psychic type the polar opposite of vados

obsidian iris
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@meager void I have a question you mentioned something about teleporting statues what is that about

meager void
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In Nexomon 1, khan gives us the ability to teleport after meeting ventra in her true form.

obsidian iris
meager void
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Yh

obsidian iris
# meager void Yh

Either way tag me if you make a new post about theories I can make quite detail theories people say

meager void
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K

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It's hard finding new info so it might take a while

tight badger
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The teleportation thing seems more like a way to simplify fast tracking in game more than significant plot relevance

meager void
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Yes

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I only said in the theory that no one talked about it in Nexomon 1

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So the girl statues could also go unnoticed.

obsidian iris
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meager void
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meager void
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She looks similar, bu I don't think so

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why would she be relevant in Nexomon 3

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And she has 2 statues

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meager void
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Honestly, this could be another theory, I'll look into this

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The second one has a girl that's probably the witch

obsidian iris
meager void
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She's dead rn, u know

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Venefelis killed her

obsidian iris
meager void
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This was Pt.1 of my theories

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Check it out

obsidian iris
meager void
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Oh ok

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I'm gonna be honest she probably dies before Nexomon 3

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The enemy wants to kill her but Kroma failed

obsidian iris
meager void
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So she can send a braccus level beast to take care of her

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GG's for Eliza

obsidian iris
meager void
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Remember the Nexolord

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He failed to protect hilda because he was too late

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the same could happen or something similar

meager void
obsidian iris
meager void
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King doesn't increase speed and they could both teleport

obsidian iris
meager void
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Not Abyssals

obsidian iris
meager void
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Only Vados is Near Braccus level

obsidian iris
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And he's fast don't forget that

meager void
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Remember Nexolord could teleport

obsidian iris
meager void
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Edward

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I don't like him and he could be wrong

obsidian iris
meager void
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he fought none of them

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and lost to Ulzar

obsidian iris
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meager void
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Solus fought the Abyssals wdym?

meager void
obsidian iris
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meager void
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I gotta go Afk'i'll be back later

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meager void
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Who do you think will come back in Nexomon 3?

undone walrus
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SHE HAS TO BE

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sorry im shouting Im just a big big big Hilda fan

undone walrus
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I have a theory that the blue haired guy is related to the witches

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since he's blue haired and every witch we've met has also been blue haired 💀

meager void
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I'm gonnabe honest, I've thought abt it and the blue haired guy being related to the witches is unlikely but who knows and Hilda is a Nexomon 1 character, I doubt she's coming for for Nexomon 3, maybe for a few cameos but if you like Eliza, she'd probably come

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I think Coco will return

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He's too cool and since Atlas will probably return, Coco will to

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I wonder who the sidekick will be for Nexomon 3

undone walrus
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meager void
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Why hilda and not Eliza or Khan? He's Hilda's mentor

undone walrus
meager void
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Yeah but more experience equals prob being stronger

undone walrus
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idk why I like Hilda I just have memories from N1

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She was really cool and relatable

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except I'm not a witch

meager void
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K

undone walrus
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She's super cool and I could go on and on and on and on

meager void
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Ok, She didn't really do that much, I'm gonna be honest.

undone walrus
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Hey! Dont ruin it for me

meager void
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Ok, ok

meager void
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a

meager void
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Who's stronger at the end of Nexomon 2, Omnicron vs Omnisun. I'll say Omnicron

meager void
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Rewatching Nexomon 1 Post game, makes me realize they leaked some things, like how you use elemental powers fromt the Primordial tyrants.

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The black fire get's put out by Fenrir's power

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Their ALWAYS talking abt this wheel of fate thing

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what could it be?

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The second Veneflies got revived, it's liek he had new orders as he had already killed Hilda and he said he had a new goal

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It's like the Enemy was expecting it and was ready

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And Venefelis said his mission didn't affect the Playe but some "human pets"

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???

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The Lateria leader was so sure that the world was finished, even after meeting vados. Interesting

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And the people living at Precursor Valley

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It was said that Venefelis was the first "recorded" abyssals, any un recorded ones?

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The Abyssals are being continually brainwashed

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Hmmm... It seems that most abyssals were just told to make a show or draw attention, Fascinating

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It seems that the Enemy wasn't even talking to the Player

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All of this are my thoughts for a theory, maybe others could also use this

obsidian iris
undone walrus
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The enemy looks like a girl with glowing green eyes... Maybe she's a nexomon or a robot perhaps?

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Also I genuinely want the babies of Omnicron to come back

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They're too iconic to not

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undone walrus
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but okay

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It was just something I wanted to point out

obsidian iris
undone walrus
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undone walrus
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Anyways I also wanted to say that the enemy gives off major "cat" vibes to me

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probably just me though

obsidian iris
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@undone walrus you're a dev of pvz2

undone walrus
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Im a modder not a dev

obsidian iris
undone walrus
obsidian iris
undone walrus
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Since when does pvz 2 support mods

undone walrus
obsidian iris
undone walrus
meager void
meager void
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Who's stronger? Omnicron or the Enemy?

tight badger
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The enemy feels more like a tamer imo, it would be a nice change of pace if the big bad uses a team of tyrants instead of just being one boss, especially since nexomon 3 is going to be mostly multi battles

meager void
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The main theory is: The Statues with writing on Precursor Valley

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The Stones didn't fade

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There were people living at Precursor Valley

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Why did Volcel choose Precursor Valley

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But maybe....

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Too much thought shouldn't be on it

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Maybe I'm over-thinkng it

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it might not be that complicated.

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Does anyone have a theory?

undone walrus
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Unlike someone else

stark shale
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Perhaps, those residing in the Precursor Valley were a civilization of seers, that would be the easiest and most obvious way to connect the DLC with Nexomon 3, although it could be anything else.

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I get the feeling that the creator of the abyssals has more power than Omnicron, I would even dare to say that he would be more powerful than all the antagonists seen before (Omnicron, Vados, Ziegler)

tight badger
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Since Solus has disappeared, I wouldn't be surprised if the enemy is using them as some kind of power source, either Solus is locked up or absorbed by them. The only issue I can see with a human form of the protagonist returning is that people are going to rage regarding the "canon" gender

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In extinction, the first games protagonists gender was decided by the gender of the first avatar the player chooses, since in N3, the player is a male there wouod theoretically be no way to choose Solus' gender (even though on the games cover Solus is a dude, people could get upset if they arent a girl, because thats what they were in their playthrough)

stark shale
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Maybe Solus will end up helping the protagonist discover the truth about the creator of the Abyssals, and maybe Solus will end up sacrificing himself in the end for the good of humanity and causing the protagonist to take down the creator of the Abyssals.

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Thus connecting with the vision of the end of the DLC.

tight badger
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It has been confirmed that Solus is missing, so if that does happen it would be near the end of the game

undone walrus
undone walrus
tight badger
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A while ago

stark shale
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I think it would be a great scene in the final battle:

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That the protagonist had managed to free Solus and that Solus helped him find the abyssal creator, then in the battle Solus saw that the power of the abyssal creator is too great to simply defeat him. So Solus looks at the protagonist with a smile and thanks him for freeing him and then decides to use all his remaining strength to counteract the power of the abyssal creator by sacrificing himself and dying to leave him vulnerable and weak, finally causing the protagonist to end up murdering the creator of the abyssals.

tight badger
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If Solus' sacrifices himself, people are going to be more upset that he can't be captured, I wouldn't mind if he is only mentioned and never actually appears at all

stark shale
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Obviously, they will have to explain to us what happened to Solus since the last time we saw him in the DLC, and if he disappeared as such, they will explain to us what happened to him and how and why he disappeared.

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I think the vision at the end of the Abyssals DLC may have significant importance in N3, where the abyssal creator talks about the supposed future death of Solus

stark shale
tight badger
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If the old protag sacrifices himself, it would feel cheap for him to be cloned, it would make the death much less impactful

oak fog
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Bro, the main is kinda obvious for me, it's Miriam

meager void
oak fog
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Sorry, i meant the main villain

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The one who appears at the end off the DLC

meager void
oak fog
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I do think so. Think about the abilities she has shown until now. The color in the crystals of the Abyssals(the same of the star in the reborn nexomon). The design which is pretty similar. Also, why revived nexomon in nexomon extinction are quite powerful? That could also be a hint to reborned nexomon

meager void
oak fog
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At the end of the DLC of the first game, we know for sure she can go outside of the Netherworld. Even though we don't know nothing about her reasons, we also know for sure that he is quite powerful and ancient, so the reasons are yet to be seen

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I'm still quite convinced that they are the same

meager void
obsidian iris
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obsidian iris
near tartan
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I wish in the story of Nexomon 3 we could see the tyrants like Mulcimer and Nivalis if that happens I will be so happy because the tyrants had better writing in Extinction

gentle delta
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Honestly I always thought the Ennemy was Miriam because of the colour of her eyes and also because she convinces the N1 protagonist to destroy Omnicron’s soul. Also she’s in the Netherworld and one of the goals of Vennefelis and the abyssals may have been to turn Ziegler against Solus, to truly start a war between them both so she could take over the Netherworld too once Ziegler and his servants are too weakened to protect it.

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That and she’s one of the few characters that is likely immortal given that she lives in the Netherworld, literally the afterlife

meager void
gentle delta
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Also, I feel like theories often forget Ziegler. He's at war with Solus and I feel like it's not an accident. The Netherworld, in my opinion, will definitely get conquered while he's struggling against Solus. Plus, it would explain how she's managed to subdue Solus: the war with the literal afterlife is already weakening them both

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It's not an accident that Vennefelis revided extinct monsters seemingly for the whole purpose of angering Ziegler. He pretty much puts hatred of Solus inside of Ziegler's heart,by saying Solus is just mocking him and Death as a whole. He only needed to revive the Abyssals for his plan to manipulate Eliza to come out of hiding for Kroma to kill her

meager void
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gentle delta
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Well my theory is that it was still planned by the Abyssal Queen. She did probably see Solus angering Ziegler when we revived Bolzen so it's possible she gave the order to Vennefelis without him realising? It was supposed to be a shock to everyone after all and the Abyssals sure were happy to talk about what they know. She didn't say much of anything to Abyssals beyond their mission so it's possible she made Vennefelis do that anyways. Otherwise I don't see why Vennefelis revived the other monsters (not Abyssals).

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It's a bit too convenient that it just so happens that it incite Ziegler to hate Solus for it to just be a coincidence that just so happens to help the master of the Abyssals.