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velvet pelican
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ouch

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WD blue is the one i have

dusk oracle
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one was linux doing too many tests the other was killed by windows search and defrag

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you cant even trust linux

velvet pelican
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windows is good for interfacing but backend isnt great and alot of games wont run on linux still

dusk oracle
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you need to litterally check the code yourself and compile it in a lead bubble

velvet pelican
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linux for servers tho... thats gold

dusk oracle
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linux.. i'll be honest i knew it was easy comming from the dos era

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i just feel nothing is safe without a airgap

velvet pelican
dusk oracle
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no if a machine has a airgap

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it means it's offline and unable to be access unless dirrectly next to it in person

velvet pelican
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like air time

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radio

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internet

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outside world

dusk oracle
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no if a pc is not on a network

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it cannot be accessed

velvet pelican
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yeah i get it

dusk oracle
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"airgap"

velvet pelican
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plumbing uses the same concept except its for water to drain... outlet to drain inlet

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every faucet and fixture in the average house is protected by an airgap or a vacuum breaker

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toilet is the vacuum breaker

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the rest are all airgaps

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and landscaping is a number of things that can protect it

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some sort of backflow preventor

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im thinkin no remove access at all from anything... not even the microwave

fading hare
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It's actually not easy to estimate lifetime unless you first establish optimal conditions, and then you must somehow determine the percentage of time this drive has existing within those optimal conditions. For instance, was there any humidity? Did it ever get cold and then you booted and wrote a larger amount of data to it? What's the ratio of read versus write operations performed? What's the average temperature the drive has operated in? Was there any dust? Was there any significant magnetic (or other) fields nearby at any point? When you handled it, did you ensure that you were grounded and wore an anti-static bracelet? Has it been exposed to vibrations, and if so, for how long, on average, per day?

fading hare
# dusk oracle i just feel nothing is safe without a airgap

You can definitely be safe(r) without being air-gapped. Turn off all radios. Only connect via ethernet to networks you trust. Keep your operating system up to date. Never install any applications from sources you wouldn't also like to watch you sleep at night.

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The only thing you really need to be completely air-gapped for are private key generation for GPG/PGP, cold-storage crypto wallets, and other such things, like root certificate chains. If these leak, well, really, really bad things can be staged using your keys. For instance, NVIDIA's signing keys were actually compromised in the most recent hack. They had to cancel them all, because otherwise bad actors could publish malware signed by NVIDIA. Even just a new version of a driver or whatever could easily carry a bad payload, and you wouldn't even know, because it was signed by NVIDIA, a company you love and trust. 😉

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For those times that you need to be air-gapped, make sure that you have a clean/fresh, vetted live USB from a distro you can trust. I am a fan of Tails because it lets you decide on how to handle disks and files, including encryption at rest and similar. It will also completely disable all wired and wireless communication if you tell it to. You can elect to use the Tor network if you want, but, for key generation, don't. Ensure that you have a secondary clean, vetted USB drive or SD card plugged in that you can store the private key on (and you should probably create an archive out of the private files and revoc certs, and then encrypt them so that the only way to retrieve them would be via the paper key). Also, connect directly to a printer (no wifi/bluetooth) and print the paper keys. Store that USB drive/SD card in a safe place such as a shielded bag within an actual safe. Same with the printed paper keys.

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Whatever you do, don't write things down in a notebook. That's how you expose all the key players in your operation. It's happened time and time again, and I think my favorite is "The Humble Babe" which was the defacto boss of Fairlight back in the day. Her notebook contained contact information for all major players within Fairlight, as well as external contacts within HA (the biker gang) and other criminal enterprises that were buying stolen/faked credit cards to fund their day-to-day activities. I don't even remember, but it was hundreds of people that went down like a long line of dominoes because this person wrote it all down in a notebook because they didn't trust that data to be stored anywhere digitally.

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This is obviously an example of bad actors. But the same applies to corporations, or just your own personal GitHub account if you maintain packages that are widely used. Supply chain attacks are becoming more and more common, and they are extremely effective once successful.

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"Important" people are deliberately targeted while traveling. If someone knows you work for corp X and you are someone with clout, bad actors can, and will, target you. Whoops, your laptop got stolen. Probably just some crackhead, right? Nah. There's no such thing as a coincidence in this case.

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Same thing goes for your trash. Shred everything. Dumpster-diving is basically the easiest way to gain information about anyone.

velvet pelican
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my HDD in my old pc got dropped a couple inches once when cleaning under it... that was a moment of panic till everything booten and all my files were fine

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shred? i live in the country... it all gets burned in a burn barrel

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cant sift through ashes and find ink

fading hare
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make sure you burn the credit card/loan junk mail too

velvet pelican
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burn season permitting that is

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ohh yeah enything with an address and my name on it

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which is all mail

fading hare
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That's the way to do it.

velvet pelican
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ive heard of people putting shredded docs back together

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after that i decided buying a shredder would be useless and just burn all of it

fading hare
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Depends on what shredder you get, for sure.

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My main issue though is that my name is entirely unique. I guess I could change all my accounts across the board in an effort to somehow try to remain anonymous, but, I am sort of a fan of being the only one, because I can definitely, without a doubt, find the people trying to target me. And, they will regret meeting me in person.

velvet pelican
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i would want one that shreds with a mower blade below it that chops it off as it comes through.... 1/4" squares wont be put back together by even the most desperate of people

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well.... you are mr t

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the a teams most hardcore member

fading hare
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just don't make me fly

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I am seriously afraid of flying

velvet pelican
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whats got you scared of flying?

fading hare
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Not sure, I've never been a fan of heights. I've fallen a few times (from unsafe heights), but I don't know if that's it. These days the only way for me to fly is to be completely present during take-off and landing. I have to watch the entire thing, and I have gotten into arguments with passengers that tried to keep the window covers down.

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Turbulence still messed with me, hardcore. Even though I know that the plane can handle extreme conditions, I panic every time it hits a pocket and drops. I know, rationally, that you shouldn't be worried when the wings are moving. You should be worried when they stop moving.

velvet pelican
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yeah fear of heights and flying is difficult

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i mean i understand alot about planes and turbulence

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played flight sim a ton when i was a kid and was obsessed with planes and flying so i learned alot... but bad turbulence still makes me nervous

fading hare
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I have been on a flight where the wings actually, literally, iced over, and they were not, I mean, NOT moving, at all. Completely rigid. The defrosters were working overtime and still weren't able to clear the ice buildup.

velvet pelican
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capt we need to drop to a warmer elevation

fading hare
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There was no such thing. This was in the middle of winter. Flight from Newark to Reykjavik.

velvet pelican
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yeah winter is a more turbulent time too

fading hare
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Snow was everywhere, no matter the altitude basically... it was nuts... Looking outside, everything looked like Star Wars Hyperspace.

velvet pelican
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kinda neat in its own way then but still not a fun trip to be on

fading hare
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Fortunately both the pilot and co-pilot were Icelandic. They grew up with that stuff and trained extensively in those conditions in flight school.

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It was a smooth flight, albeit scary.

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Landing was insane, though. Ground crews had not been able to keep snow off of the runway, that's how hard it was coming down. Pilot speaks over the intercom and says, calm as a cucumber, "We are about to touch down at Keflavik, but the storm obscures the runway lights, and we have been informed that there's at least 3 feet of snow on the ground."

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Smoothest landing I have ever experienced, ever.

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Apparently it doesn't matter that there's snow. The landing gears will heat up so fast when they touch the tarmac that they will vaporize the snow.

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Needless to say I got off of that red-eye and headed to the nearest bar.

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😄

velvet pelican
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lol

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i can only imagine

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i remember snowboarding in lake tahoe in 3 feet of fresh that dropped the night before at 30 below 0 we were dropping 15 foot cliffs that day and you couldnt even tell you landed

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lightest snow ive ever experienced... especially compaired to the heavy stuff we get here

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people come here thinking ahh yeah ive driven in snow lots of times and then crash because its so different from the light snow they are used to

vernal yoke
fading hare
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Henceforth I shall be known as John Smith!

vernal yoke
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Oh no

wooden schooner
lapis bluff
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Oh, I missed a really interesting discussion last night, the one on securing computers. I once had a friend who had been tasked by his boss to write up how to make the company's computer completely secure (the boss had been scared by some news report), and the boss didn't want any compromises. So, the report ended up saying, you build a room for the computer with three foot thick concrete on all six sides, with embedded faraday screening, the only thing that goes through is a (non-magnetic) rotating shaft for the power, this room is built underground (for good grounding of the faraday cage). It's still not completely secure because it might be possible to derive data from observing the thermal radiation (which is helped by burying it deep enough). 🙂

late fulcrum
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My first question in all such situations is "what is your threat model?"

wooden schooner
late fulcrum
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My second question is "what is your budget?"

dusty citrus
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oh this remembers me a place where I did a job interview, the boss (I suppose) was showing me around the place, then the server/nas room was locked inside to a room which was made out of drywall and a glass door

real falcon
crystal ore
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And then once you build the perfect air-gapped room, the boss comes in, says, "How come I can't get to Facebook on this?!" and you end up having an Ethernet cable snaking under the door to plug into the regular building network...

fading hare
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I generally shut everything down and unplug from grid and ethernet before trying to move a computer.

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Putting it into sleep mode isn't sufficient. There's still current going into, and through most of the computer.

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I wouldn't put anything critical on that drive, that's for sure.

fading hare
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I have a 365 subscription with 1 TB OneDrive as well. I like it. I got really angry with Dropbox after their continued price hikes. Started searching for an alternative, and went with a 365 family subscription because it was less than $100/year and came with 1 TB storage. I use it mostly for backups and save games and docs for my gaming rig/laptop. For most other things I have Nextcloud.

velvet pelican
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I just use the hard drives I have to make backups

lusty fossil
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Discord feature I want: Subscribing/getting a little indicator when a particular channel has messages. I am in a number of servers where I mostly follow like one channel.

fading hare
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some servers I have entirely muted because they are very high volume

velvet pelican
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I have this server muted outside of pings due to its massive volume of chatter per day

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Got one that has half the chatter that i am in and only have half the channels show if someone says something… I could spend half a day just reading backlogs here

fading hare
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This server is chill compared to some of the game-specific Discords I am on.

lusty fossil
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Dude. I don't ever go on game specific discords or communities at all.

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The toxicity is off the charts.

real falcon
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depends on games

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im on 4 discord servers related to game, and all is fine

lusty fossil
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I guess that's fair

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Some games are chill.

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But many many are not at all

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I used to play a lot of Apex Legends, because it's super fun. Got tired of the other players tho.

velvet pelican
static flare
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Looking at getting an oscilloscope, but I don't have lots of money, any suggestions?

late fulcrum
# static flare Looking at getting an oscilloscope, but I don't have lots of money, any suggesti...

In the United States, a good bet is to go to a hamfest and pick up an old analog scope. They're inexpensive and fairly simple. The simplicity is a double advantage: many of them need repairs, which are generally doable, and they're good for fiddling with to understand how oscilloscopes are used. Being able to turn knobs and directly see the effect is super useful for getting a good "feel" for how to use scopes and make them do what you want. Without that experience, a modern digital scope can be frustrating and mystifying to use. That said, there are some simple digital scopes out there that are surprisingly affordable. Many of them are just digitizer modules that you hook to a computer or phone to use as a screen and control panel. The very cheapest approach is software that uses an audio input on a computer as a scope, but those are very limited, and if you happen to put too much voltage in, you can damage your computer.

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I don't know how common hamfests are in your part of the world.

static flare
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Also! I went and tried to test the panel meters on the box, and a 10kΩ resistor in series with a AA battery maxed out the meter

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okay i somehow misread the resistance

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it's actually 150Ω, which is probably where i wemt wrong

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Used a 10K resistor, 9V nearly got up to the top (14.5/15, or 2.9, depending)

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(i tried the AA, but it barely moved the needle)

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@late fulcrum this helps figure out the sensitivity, right?

static flare
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Okay, I have lots of numbers that I'm not sure exactly what to do with

thick wind
# static flare Looking at getting an oscilloscope, but I don't have lots of money, any suggesti...

Another option for a budget oscilloscope would be a USB oscilloscope. The lack of its own display and operating system reduces the cost significantly, but they can still give a good enough resolution to be useful for most purposes. The biggest weakness would be its potential susceptibility to noise from USB power, but I surprisingly haven't had issues yet with that on the one I'm using. https://www.amazon.com/Hantek-6022-Series-USB-Oscilloscope/dp/B091SSF8TC?th=1
I don't think it beats refurbishing an old one if you're able to get one, but it's a nice straightforward option that is a lot more accessible and more than enough for beginners.

Hantek 6022BE 2CH USB Oscilloscope, 20MHz 48MSa/s

Hantek 6022BE 2CH USB Oscilloscope, 20MHz 48MSa/s

late fulcrum
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If the meter had zero resistance, 9V would push 0.9mA through 10kΩ, so it seems likely your meter is 1mA full scale

static flare
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how do i set my meter to milliamp?

late fulcrum
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We need to derive one more number so that we can compute scaling resistors. That number is the resistance of the meter itself.

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Unfortunately, trying to measure it directly with a multimeter can overload the meter, so it's best done indirectly, either by measuring the voltage across the meter at a known current, or by varying the series resistance and computing the proportional effect on the total current.

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Wait, you're asking how to set your multimeter to milliamps?

static flare
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yes

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that is what I'm asking

late fulcrum
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Sorry, got confused by the multiple meters

static flare
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ah sorry

late fulcrum
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It depends somewhat on the meter you have, but you should have a setting for "mA" or "µA" or somesuch

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Many meters have different probe connections for measuring current as well

static flare
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this is the one I have

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late fulcrum
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Ah, for that one, you put the red probe in the "µA mA" jack and set the selector to the "mA ≂" position

static flare
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and put that in series with everything else?

late fulcrum
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Right. Then your multimeter and your meter will be measuring the same current (one of the basic electrical laws is that the same current flows through everything in a series circuit)

static flare
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Kirchoff's Current Law iirc?

late fulcrum
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Kind of: they're closely related

static flare
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0.88mA on the Vm and 0.89mA on the Am

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now to measure the resistance across both meters

late fulcrum
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Careful with that, just hooking a meter to a multimeter on the ohms scale can overload the meter

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Does the (analog) meter pointer go to around the 90% position when the multimeter reads 0.88mA?

static flare
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yep

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so we can assume that one is 1mA?

late fulcrum
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Yes, that seems justified.

static flare
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and also, neither meter went too far up when i measured resistance

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the voltmeter measured 110Ω, and the ammeter measured 14Ω

late fulcrum
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That's strange, I would expect them to be pretty similar. But now you have the information you need to compute scaling resistors so you can use them to measure voltage or current ranges you choose

static flare
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I mean, they're probably similar bar the resistor used to convert the meter to a voltmeter

late fulcrum
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Ah, I didn't know the resistor was still present

static flare
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(did some research on this, apparently most of these meters are just ammeters with internal wiring to make them do different things)

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(or other supplemental wiring)

late fulcrum
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Yes, that's what I was trying to explain previously. They're all basically low-current ammeters (sometimes referred to as "milliammeters"), and then scaling resistors in series and/or parallel cause them to respond to voltages or currents in the desired ranges.

static flare
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Actually playing around with them and watching a video on it helped me kinda figure things out in my head

late fulcrum
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Good idea, that understanding will serve you well

static flare
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sorry I didn't realise all that last time :/

late fulcrum
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No worries, every one of us starts as a beginner

static flare
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but yeah, what should I use as a resistor? and should i think about using a trimmer in the range I need for fine tuned adjustment?

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(for the internals)

late fulcrum
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For the case of measuring voltage, you just apply Ohm's law: you compute the total (meter plus scaling resistor) resistance to pass your full scale current (which we now know is 1mA) at the desired full scale voltage.

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For instance, if you wanted 15 volts to be full scale, you'd divide 15 volts by 0.001A (1mA), to get a total resistance of 15kΩ. Your meter supplies 110Ω of resistance, so you'd need to make up the difference, which is 14890Ω.

static flare
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so 14.9kΩ would be just about right for that, right?

late fulcrum
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Yes. And as you mentioned, you can use trimmers to fine tune the values.

static flare
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i have no clue what values exist, I'd probably just get the closest one below the one i want, with a trimmer with the range I'd need to encompass the value i want, and do it that way

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how would i wire the ammeter?

late fulcrum
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There are a few ways to figure it, but basically you'd build a current divider. For example, if you wanted a full scale reading of 1A, you'd want a 1000:1 divider, so the shunt resistor would be 1/1000 of the meter resistance. So 14Ω / 1000 = 14 milliohms

static flare
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if 1mA is the full scale of the meter, you mean?

late fulcrum
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Right

static flare
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cause 0.89mA did about 20% of the meter

late fulcrum
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20% deflection? That might imply 5mA full scale.

static flare
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that makes sense

late fulcrum
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Okay, back to work for me

static flare
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thanks so much 💜

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genuinely has got me in a really good mood~

late fulcrum
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Yay!

static flare
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I wanna make things, which is a dangerous mood at 2:30am

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especially since I want to make things that require drilling

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i just have the combination dial disassembled on a piece of MDF, ready to be mounted

burnt tendon
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It's nothing but the most hole-some of activities, tho.

wary herald
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wow

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So in theory, which one would be faster, an Intel i3 from 2011 with on-system Ubuntu, or an Intel i7 from 2019 with bootable USB Ubuntu with a fast USB drive?

sick adder
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hah ! I got the one supposedly "good" version of my PCB and it has two huge errant holes in the middle. I wonder how many boards in the panel got the same treatment.

lusty fossil
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Some intern was put in charge for 10 minutes?

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"What's the worst that could happen?"

sick adder
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hopefully the next fabbed version is right 🙂

thick wind
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Very well-taken-care of haha

lusty fossil
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Someone probably had a very bad day that day

sick adder
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If you've done CNC you know things like this happen. I'm a little surprised they thought this one was "good" and put it in a mailer to me though

lusty fossil
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Indeed

sick adder
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but if someone had to look at every board on a panel their eyes were probably pretty tired by the end, and now I've got a souvenir

slim shard
blissful roost
lusty fossil
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lol

blissful roost
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Want to see pain?

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Obviously in the safe-for-server sense

lusty fossil
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I'm not sure I do!

blissful roost
lusty fossil
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Is it not meant to be curved?

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that would be pain

blissful roost
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It is... It's not meant to be broken. Lol

lusty fossil
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bummer.

blissful roost
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You can see the damage, on the right.

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Glad that ain't mine...

lusty fossil
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I used to rent a space at my local maker space. I left my spare monitor there. They did some remodeling and moved it and somehow broke it

blissful roost
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My ape of a brother smashed my 42" TV.

lusty fossil
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I may need to hire essentially an artist who can give me basically arty outlines/shapes that I can turn into laser cutting/CNC router files. Does anyone know if the adafruit jobs board is the right place for that kind of work?

thick wind
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It's certainly worth a try, all sorts of makers there.

wary herald
lusty fossil
thick wind
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Jk, the bootable USB will definitely be faster than the HDD

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It won't last as long, though, the HDD will survive many times more write cycles.

wary herald
wary herald
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Thanks a lot @thick wind

thick wind
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Just make sure it's actually a "fast USB drive"

wary herald
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Right.....

lusty fossil
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Would folks expect a laptop backpack that advertises itself as fitting up to 15.6" (says the cavity is 15.7") laptops would actually comfortably fit a 15.6" machine?

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Ah I misread the specs

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It'll be fine

wooden schooner
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having no special qualifications to answer that, I would expect it to fit most 15.6" laptops but probably there to exist some exceptions of thick laptops that have trouble

lusty fossil
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I was like "15.6" diagonally doesn't seem like enough..."

fading hare
lusty fossil
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Lol

weary fiber
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From initial idea to today!

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wooden schooner
lusty fossil
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15.6" x 11", which diagonally is more than enough

wooden schooner
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oh yeah that is way different

tardy badger
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Repurposing unsold product from the ODT days into new life

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Making WiFi controlled grow lights

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Neopixel are great for this because you can tune the color channels and make a slow transitioning light that shifts from more red to more blue like the sun

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Coordinate it with dusk/dawn times to turn off at the right time and you can simulate day/night cycles for a plant

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Luckily the PixelWing are an all in one kind of setup with neopixel and ESP32-S2 all on one board

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I could probably also add some environmental sensing to it to monitor VOC and humidity thanks to the STEMMA QT plug

lusty fossil
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If should be illegal to run an online store and not have the ability to filter out out of stock items.

weary fiber
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Finished!

wooden schooner
lusty fossil
wooden schooner
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that one might actually be illegal (deliberately misrepresenting availability), it's just hard enough to prove that no one seems to do anything about it

fading hare
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So, in other news, I locked myself out of the Watchy. Ordered another one. Super-neat concept, but, I am going to have to wait to do anything with the new one until SQFMI fixes their code and their installation guides.

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RIP Watchy. Born 2022-03-21 17:06. Departed for The ElysianElectrified Fields on 2022-03-21 22:56.

late fulcrum
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Maybe you'll be able to reflash it with a JTAG programmer one day

fading hare
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I was half-contemplating trying to connect RST to GND, but the pins on that chip are TINY

late fulcrum
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The original code was loaded somehow, and I doubt it was by preprogramming the chips before they were soldered. I suspect there are tiny pads used by a "bed of nails" programmer to flash the code.

fading hare
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I looked here, and it appears they did not map RST to anything

late fulcrum
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The signals you need appear to be on the FPC connector to the display, perhaps it was programmed that way

fading hare
lusty fossil
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Oh... I hit the censor somehow.

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Ah, I suspect I know.

I have a song worming around in my head, but I can only vaguely remember one line of it. Googling it is coming up with a completely unrelated song. Is there anything I can do?

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I found it! It was my favorite band. I'm so unsure of why I didn't know this!

dusk oracle
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so last year i became 38, i didn't think much of it, until today when i could no longer read the numbers on quite a few components unlike when i was 18 and looking at stuff that was microns in size.

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age is not fun

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cuz inside my heart i'm still a child

burnt tendon
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Yeah, the problems of old eyes are... magnified.

dusk oracle
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mobile phone to the rescue

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anyone know of any good lens attachments for fine soldering for the s10plus ?

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i realized i can mirror the display on a pc with quite low latency

fading hare
# dusk oracle anyone know of any good lens attachments for fine soldering for the s10plus ?

I thought about those types of solutions, but ended up with one of these: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08HQYH5CZ obviously Chinese, and obviously a stolen design, so they disappeared quick, but there's plenty of others around. It actually works great for soldering little things.

LED Magnifying Lamp with Clamp,3X Magnifier Desk Lamp with 3 Colors...

LED Magnifying Lamp with Clamp,3X Magnifier Desk Lamp with 3 Colors Modes,4.1" Diameter Glass Lens,10 Brightness stepless dimming for Reading,Desk Table Craft,Close Work

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but, you're not on the same continent as me, so maybe just check Aliexpress or something?

dusk oracle
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yeah i had one they stole it from my work space

fading hare
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And, it's way cheaper than a lens attachment for a phone.

dusk oracle
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yeah true

fading hare
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So, someone stole an item from your workspace? Here's how you fix this behavior. Mark everything in some unique way that only you will recognize. Including your chair if you work in a larger space with cubicles and whatever. Then all you have to do, because you have an urgent need to be more petty than the person that "reassigned" your workspace tools... is find it. Once you do, take it back in the most graphic way possible.

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Also, been there, done that. A few times. F around and find out.

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If you didn't know it already, I am really tired of bullies. "You didn't need that chair, you were on vacation/medical leave/[whatever reason they can come up with], so we gave it to [insert some other Chad dude that is friends with the Chad that stole your equipment] because their need was urgent."

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Also, I practically live for these moments. I will figure out a way to retaliate in the most graphic way while still being within HR boundaries. To me, it's just another practical joke, and you are about to be pranked like a rock star.

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Obviously it's not something you should engage in if it's some trivial thing that can be easily replaced. But, let's say you have a medical condition that requires you to have specific office equipment... When you get back from vacation, that equipment has been replaced with some basic, broken crap, and your equipment is now in possession of someone that's obviously confused as to whether or not you are a meek nerd or a cold-blooded prankster.

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Not only did they technically violate several different HR rules and employment laws, they rubbed it in your face. Could you potentially pursue this and try to get vindication by contacting HR? Uh. No. HR is going to tell you there's nothing they can do, and at the same time let the Chads know you complained. Chads like cute HR girls. It's just the way of life. So, spare yourself the humiliation... and heed my advice. 😄

dusk oracle
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i hid rf id tags in everything 😄

fading hare
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hahaha nice

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At some point in 2008 or so, the other devs on my team hid an annoy-a-tron device in my cubicle framing. Apparently my hearing's a bit off on some frequencies, because I didn't notice, at all. They then had to adjust the tones, and it basically ended up with everyone in the office going insane. I noticed the sounds, and I figured, these guys did something, because when I asked them, they claimed that they couldn't hear anything...

lusty fossil
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It might just be me being a Fuddy duddy, but I find pranks like that really unprofessional

fading hare
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You mean my retaliatory pranks, or the original offender's?

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The next day they invited me for lunch, I declined, said I had brought my own, and wanted to catch up on work. Instead, I tore that entire cubicle apart. I found the device, and I also ID'd the guy that put it there with some creative sleuthing.

lusty fossil
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The one where they hid the device

fading hare
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Oh wait, it gets better.

lusty fossil
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I would be legit unhappy

fading hare
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Oh, it's completely out of line.

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But, here's the kicker... guy that put it there... I got a different device, one that would do random HID stuff, like move your mouse and type on your keyboard... Plugged it into the back of his workstation and approved it... No way he could see it because our workstations were in these little cubbies hanging under our desks...

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So, since he's also an admin, I turned off the random keystrokes, because I didn't want the device to accidentally you know, nuke production or something equally disastrous.

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But, I left the random mouse movement in place. Randomly throughout the day, his mouse would act like a dying bumblebee. Swooping around in circles until it finally fell onto the bottom of his screen. This went on for a week, or so.

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Then he finally caved, slammed his mouse repeatedly into the desk and ripped it out of the computer and threw it in a garbage bin. He then went into the office of our boss, who I had already informed, and said boss stone-faced the entire convo where that coworker requested a new mouse and keyboard.

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Everyone had a good laugh.

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He also got a fancy new mouse and keyboard out of the deal.

dusk oracle
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agreed but excuses like "wee quickly needed" and thats why i now lock everything up

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and it takes me 30 mins longer to leave work

fading hare
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The fact that your coworkers are that toxic and immoral is sad. And I totally understand. I, however, would find ways to mess with them.

dusk oracle
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i am planning on setting up a trap at my desk

fading hare
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Make sure the trap is not going to hurt them in any perceivable fashion.

dusk oracle
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something akin to the glitter bomb but more explosive

real falcon
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lol I would laugh so hard if I find out someone placed annoying sound device in my office table (if I ever have one lol)

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because being deaf it'll annoy others far more than me

fading hare
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lol

lusty fossil
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Deafness is a low key super power

dusk oracle
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use a standard alarm system siren

lusty fossil
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An ex of mine needed hearing aids and she said she loved just turning them off and relaxing

dusk oracle
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ha augmented life is cool

fading hare
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I used to work with a blind guy. He had this amazing Braille keyboard, and he was super fast and really good... some days though, he would sit in his office and just fall asleep... I asked him about it, and he was like, yeah, the only thing I have going on is this rhythmic tapping against my fingers, it gets a bit soothing at times, so I fall asleep. 😄

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Unfortunately I do not have such an "obvious" disadvantage as being deaf. I have scoliosis, which requires me to sit, and stand, throughout my day, or my back and neck basically locks up. The S-curve is pretty severe. Has been since I was young. So I found out that I could get more ergonomic equipment to help me function better in an office, and I obviously used this to improve my work-life. Some people, however, felt like I got special treatment, so they would try to "gently" remind me of my status by removing said equipment.

lusty fossil
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My cousin had it real bad. She had major surgery and is much better

fading hare
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I haven't gotten to the point of surgery, yet.

real falcon
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jeez. invisible disabilities is the worse 😦

fading hare
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I actually got a chair and desk from Autonomous and they have been life-changing. Sure, they're not Herman Miller, but they are amazing.

lusty fossil
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She was really seriously disabled by it. Not discounting your condition at all, I just remember her being unable to basically do anything

fading hare
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I have days like that, sure. But, most days I am just too dumb to give up.

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I walked around with an impacted hip that was dead from necrosis for about a year and a half before I even asked a medical professional about why I had a hard time walking. At that point I was using a cane to get around. When they realized what was wrong with me, they prescribed me Tramadol until my surgery... When I took that first pill and it blocked my pain receptors, I basically fell into a heap, crying, because I didn't even realize the amount of pain I was in because the onset had been so gradual.

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Three days in the hospital recovering from a total athroplasty on my left hip (titanium, no cement), and I was back home. Felt pretty fragile, but determined to get better. My first "physical therapist" tried to downplay my elevated (at rest) heart rate of 120 bpm, and I kept telling them that it was not normal for me, but they kept making excuses. So I called the nurse that was in charge of my meds and stuff, she told the guy to back off, and she immediately jumped in her car and drove to our house. Turns out, there were some issues with the meds, but they fixed it.

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Then, comes this absolute beast of a man. He was my new physical therapist. He would push me, yell at me, make fun of me for giving up... and at one point I was just so exhausted I asked him why he was trying to make me angry... His answer... "Half of my spine is titanium, I have two full hip replacements, and part of my neck is all metal." After that, I never questioned his instructions. I am glad he confided in me. He could have just quit and been good.

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But I digress. I am feeling better now. My lower back has been getting a bit worse from compensating for the scoliosis, but I had some physical therapy and have got a new set of exercises that are actually helping, so I remain hopeful.

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Not even sure why I am telling all of you all of this. Maybe you think I'm bragging about how hurt I am, as if it's some kind of merit. Nah, I know I walk in the shade of those that truly suffer. Their pain, a sun, mine merely a shaded copse near a stream.

real falcon
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😄 yeah hope you keep improving

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I hope so for myself too. my vision dont track at all, and im permently dizzy and brain is constantly noisy

fading hare
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That's rough. I hope you find a way to raise a pathway of calming stones you can traverse across that river of overwhelming noise and distraction.

real falcon
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thanks. I kinda doubt I'll work again as cnc machinist. driving is off and on ability for me now

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today isnt too bad, but theres days I wouldnt drive 3 blocks

fading hare
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That's harsh... not being able to transport yourself is crippling. Especially in countries that rely heavily on motor vehicles for transportation. I have noticed an increased sensitivity to bright light. I have entirely switched to dark mode past sunset, and I tend to use themes like Gruvbox for my OS.

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Driving at dusk can be extremely difficult for me.

real falcon
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im getting used to handcam vision

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that sucks. and yep transportion is pretty important, since usa they design for cars not people

fading hare
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My neighbor is a quadriplegic, and he has to schedule his trips days in advance. Sure, it's an inconvenience, but it's also very hard to predict weather and such. "Hey, am I going to be stuck at a Walmart bus stop in pouring rain, while in my chair, while waiting for a bus that is already 20 minutes late for no apparent reason?"

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I love this guy, though. He's so funny, so full of life and compassion.

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I basically never see him in the winter, or at any time where the temperature drops below 23'C. He hibernates like a bear over winter. Then he'll be hanging out on the little street we live on, just chatting with people. I usually try to make it out there a few times a day to talk to him. Some people try to take advantage of him, but he's got a tight inner circle that protect him from most of it.

real falcon
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theres always crap people

fading hare
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This is where I pause for the night, because I am about to say some unflattering things about the social status of those that take advantage of others...

real falcon
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yeah. have a great night

static flare
late fulcrum
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For the ammeter, you'd be dropping on the order of (0.005 amps times 14 ohms) times 3 amps, which is 0.21 watts. You might want a half watt or one watt resistor for that one.

static flare
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The voltmeter one is 1mA, the ammeter is 5mA, but I'm still not sure on the wiring of the ammeter

late fulcrum
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There are two major approaches for ammeters. There's the direct approach of just putting a scaling resistor in parallel with the meter. This is simple, but if something goes wrong, you get the full current through the meter coil, which would be instantly destroyed. The other passive approach has an arrangement of series and parallel resistors that's more complicated, but protects the meter. There are, of course, also active approaches with op amps and the like.

static flare
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i probably just want passive

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and i don't mind complicated

late fulcrum
static flare
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the article shown only really goes into parallel resistors, with the only series thing being just how they're configured for multi range viewing

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unless I'm misreading this :/

hard estuary
late fulcrum
lusty fossil
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Oof the cost of a single bagel with nothing on it at the place in town has gone up $.75 in the last 6 months

burnt tendon
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Inflation gives no quarter.

lapis bluff
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And sometimes it takes three. 🙂

wary herald
lusty fossil
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Their labor and lease costs must have gone up a bunch? Things like flour haven't but maybe the fixins have

static flare
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whoops, wrong message

lusty fossil
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Lol

static flare
burnt tendon
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What she said.

wary herald
lusty fossil
split field
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If anyone is interested in watching me act the fool.....
https://youtu.be/HUryWzlFQK0
(be forewarned -- this is for a brand channel, so it's semi-advertorial...but not too bad.)

YouTube
Advanced Assembly
You Have to be Kitting!!! (Parts for Electronics Assembly)

Preparing consigned parts for your manufacturer should be easy, but customers make several commons mistakes that delay the process.

  1. Double-check the shipping address. (We have multiple facilities covering several states)
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velvet pelican
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Anyone here ever hacked in a laser tape measure module to make it work with a arduino?

split field
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It'd be dependent on the specific module.

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You're either going to get an analog voltage out, a PWM, or some serial data via I2C, SPI, UART, etc...

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Going to need an o-scope on the outputs to know.

velvet pelican
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Hmm i might have to invest then. Been reading articles about people working with them but only one person has reverse engineered the firmware to work for a certain type

split field
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You know you can just buy a module, right?

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Just have to get one for your distance of interest.

velvet pelican
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And all the different pins are labeled so i dont think ill have any issue figuring that out its just getting firmware to work. And yeah those are a bit spendy to buy from everything ive seen

split field
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That one is $12.

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I don't think you're going to get a laser tape cheaper than $12

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Price increases with precision.

velvet pelican
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Thats an optical sensor. Is that the same as a laser sensor?

split field
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Yes.

velvet pelican
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So i could shoot a laser and then read the distance with some math

split field
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Most of them do the math for you.

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You get bits out that you can convert to a measurement

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The modules shoot the light for you.

velvet pelican
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Might be able to go higher on the laser power but what i was reading is about having to sync the pulse with the recieving sensor

split field
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No extra laser needed.

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Yes -- the maximum distance isn't governed by power as much as it is modulation frequency.

velvet pelican
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Lookin for around 15 feet or so. Got a friend with a mill that i want to make automated adjusters for

split field
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So when you select your sensor -- select one that includes the max distance.

velvet pelican
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Figured a laser tape type setup could be kept out if the way and still work well also providing the laser dot to know where the blade will hit

split field
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blade?

velvet pelican
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Yup mill blade

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Wood milling

split field
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But....won't the blade always be in the same spot?

velvet pelican
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Nope

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This is a portable swing mill

split field
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Are you trying to project a cutting line down on the stock?

deft yarrow
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is this an appropriate place to ask about rpi restock updates?

split field
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I have no idea -- but I saw some on pimornoi this past week.

velvet pelican
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You adjust a beam that the saw runs on to get the blades at the right placement

lusty fossil
deft yarrow
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yeah

split field
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@velvet pelican I suspect the easy thing to do would be separate the distance measurement from the laser indicator. Just add a laser module to your design.

lusty fossil
# deft yarrow yeah

I think I usually see folks directed to support@adafruit.com for that kind of thing? I'm not 100% sure. I don't think you'd get yelled at for asking here, but I don't know that you'd get a definitive answer either. I feel your pain, it's a frustrating situation!

deft yarrow
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thanks @lusty fossil just don’t understand who is buying all the pis :/

lusty fossil
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People I dislike!

split field
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Yeah -- looks like Pimoroni is back out of stock.

lusty fossil
velvet pelican
thick wind
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Considering the Pis I see being sold for almost 2x MSRP, combined with everyone who actually need a couple for various projects, I can't say I'm surprised they go as fast as they do...

split field
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@deft yarrow the best thing to do is just sign up to be notified when they're back in stock and jump on the email when you get it.

lusty fossil
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Fortunately I only ever need pi 3s

thick wind
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Ah, Rpilocator.com. It's like Octopart or Findchips, but for Raspberry Pis.

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Aren't Pi 3s super hard to get these days too?

lusty fossil
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I've seen more around

deft yarrow
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id like to get one of the rpi4s…. nginx wouldn’t know what to do with itself and all that raw power

thick wind
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The day Pi Zero2Ws can stay in stock for more than 24 hours is the day people finally stop needing Pi 3s for everything.

split field
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@velvet pelican That is a cool mill. Just add a second laser.

thick wind
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I admittedly bought a single Pi 4 way back when, just to have. Still haven't put it to any good use, though I did finally put money down on a display for it...

velvet pelican
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@split field so that beam that the saw runs on is adjusted at each end to match the log. My thought is to have a laser distance sensor on each end that matches where the upper horizontal blade runs and then have some motors that automatically adjust the bean height. Currently it woukd cut about 20 minutes out if adjusting the beam

thick wind
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Hooked it up to the TV to make sure it worked, then left it to gather dust. Meanwhile, I don't even remember testing my Pi Zero 2W...

deft yarrow
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i’m using my 0w for irssi/tmux, transmission and hosting some files with nginx….

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it’d be nice if i had a little more power tho

lusty fossil
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wow I lied about rpi-3s, octopart was incorrect

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glad I had my job buy 5 of them a while back

split field
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@velvet pelican I suppose I don't understand the setup process well enough. Or how a 15' laser rangefinder does you any good in that situation. I'd probably resort to a bubble level (old school) or a modified one with a liquid level sensor.

lusty fossil
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I wish rpi-locator worked for pi 3s

thick wind
lusty fossil
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Oh

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I was misusing it I guess. It didn't make sense to me that they would exclude those

thick wind
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They do seem to exclude anything older, which makes sense since they're out of production. Pi3 should still be active...

lusty fossil
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dang I'm gonna have to check these regularly

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wow, 120 dollars on ebay for a 3 A+

velvet pelican
# split field <@!194663383537156096> I suppose I don't understand the setup process well enoug...

Yeah being level isn’t good for that. Currently you adjust the one side of the beam down near where it needs to be by a hand crank then you go to the other end 25 feet away and drop it down then you come back to the saw end and adjust thr blade height to hit the log in the right area to het the most lumber for your cut then you put a level on the log and figure out how far out of level the log is. Then from there to take the far end adjustment and drop it to the off level of the log and then start your cuts. My thought is to have a laser at each end watching for the distance to adjust down within the proper footage to stop the motor from turning. Then ill have a button to from the motors down a little more to hit the proper position for maximum lumber cuts. Should cut a minimum of 15 minutes out of each adjustment which is alot when you typically have to adjust twice per log

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The saw has three blades so it cuts the dimensional board out per run

split field
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Very interesting.

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Hope you have fun with the project 🙂

velvet pelican
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This is one of my hobbies so i enjoy it. And its useful for someone more than me so that makes it even better

hasty wedge
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Since this is off topic

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I am gonna post something off topic here

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Painting break from circuitpython

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Currently experimenting with the circuitpython audio mixer

late fulcrum
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Mixing (virtual) paints, mixing audio, it's all good

hasty wedge
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I have a feeling that RP2040 is getting closer and closer to becoming a Teensy replacement

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It's cheap and open source

late fulcrum
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If I could get comfortable enough programming the PIO to encode/decode PPM modulation, it would encroach on even more Teensy territory.

hasty wedge
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Not like Teensy, having such a bad attitude to the open source community

late fulcrum
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I have not detected any bad attitude from the Teensy manufacturers to the open source community. They've contributed a bunch of useful libraries I use (and some AdaFruit use too)

hasty wedge
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Even putting DRM on their board to force you to buy stuff from them even if you want to build your own Teensy

late fulcrum
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My main modules these days are Teensy and ItsyBitsy with the occasional Feather thrown in

hasty wedge
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And that DRM crap is multiple times more expensive than the entire RP2040

late fulcrum
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I think the only DRM is the bootloader, I can't get bent out of shape over that.

hasty wedge
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Their audio processing eco system is so good

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And the price and the bootloader just ruined everything

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That's why I am so happy seeing RP2040 gaining the ability to do audio processing

late fulcrum
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I don't find $12 very offputting, but it is admittedly more than $4.

hasty wedge
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12 USD?

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that's teensy LC right?

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48Mhz M0+

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vs 133Mhz M0+ x2

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I hope the non-LC can be as cheap as that

vernal yoke
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Can't you just copyright the firmware/whatever it is?

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(why did I use copyright as a verb when it's implicit)

wooden schooner
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iiuc, they are using "DRM" as a blanket term to refer to mfrs restricting their product's functionality to only work with approved components.

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I don't know much about the topic but I don't think I've heard any attempts to justify in terms of copyright (even setting aside the discussion of how broken the copyright mechanism has become) stuff like Secure Boot, or digital signing mechanisms where the way to get onto the whitelist is literally just to pay Microsoft a yearly fee and that's it.

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(though integrity of firmware does seem like an important thing to protect, in principle)

wary herald
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@fading hare What website builder did you use for https://www.nascentmaker.com ??

Nascent Maker
Nascent Maker

Learn about CircuitPython, Arduino, IoT, OpenSCAD, as well as 3D printing, and software topics such as Python, Jekyll, Ruby, and C/C++.

fading hare
wary herald
fading hare
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nope

wary herald
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OK, thanks

fading hare
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it's all just in a git repo connected to Netlify

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it's completely static

wary herald
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Got it. It looks great!

fading hare
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with netlifycms you can actually have a complete publishing workflow via git because it'll create previews and whatnot as branches

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thanks

wary herald
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NP

fading hare
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Netlify is free as well, so check it out. And Jekyll is simply the best. I have tried a bunch of static site generators, but I keep coming back.

static flare
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Just found out my twin is running for parliament

static flare
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Do I need these massive shunt resistors for what I'm making? And are they really low resistance, or really high resistance?

slim shard
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I think shunts are low, to use little energy and ?allow you to determine current usage by reading the relative voltage drop across the shunt resistor?

dapper hatch
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Just had a quote for some 'professional grade' development software that supports all arm micro controllers from IAR Systems AB. I needed a 'floating' licence so I could use it on my development system and laptop when on site. I have around four or five projects a year that I would use the software on. £4900 🤣 😑 And I thought Arm Keil was expensive.

wooden schooner
lusty fossil
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Anyone know how a loan servicer for like an around 100 dollar product can make any money at all if they offer "
4 interest free payments of x". If everyone pays it off in 4 payments, won't they not make any money?

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Or are they gambling that we're all so broke many of us won't be able to pay it off that fast?

static flare
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I think they'd charge merchant fees, for one, plus late payment fees definitely

lusty fossil
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Hmm ok.

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I've never used financing for such a low priced purchase, so I was curious

static flare
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i used it to pay for my 3D printer

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only way i could afford it

lusty fossil
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I was considering doing that

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But this was just a shirt I really don't need

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I'm usually in the "20 dollar target shirts are fancy" gang

crystal ore
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Possibly there's a kickback from the product seller too, since in theory having a loan option available will generate more business for them.

lusty fossil
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Could be

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I need to find someone who works in finance

fiery hearth
wary herald
lusty fossil
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I need to re-route a package from being delivered to my door to being left at a store for the delivery service (I won't be home to sign). Would folks expect that to add a day to the delivery time? The store isn't far away

thick wind
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Depends what service and how far in-transit the package already is?

lusty fossil
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hmm, the package is on the other side of the US rn

thick wind
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If you JUST ordered it and it hasn't been processed yet, shouldn't affect anything.

lusty fossil
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hmm ok

thick wind
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If it's already been processed, it might take a day to reprocess it, depending on where it is.

lusty fossil
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kool thx

dapper hatch
dusty citrus
lusty fossil
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Am I wrong or is this diagram missing the dimension I've marked in red?

55.jpg
stray wind
lusty fossil
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Yeah bummer. I may have to live without it

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Lots of missing dims on this part

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But it may be the best I get

mighty saffron
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Are the limits on certain products like Raspberry Pi a daily limit or lifetime?

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Was hoping to get one for my little brother and me but I could only buy one today

lusty fossil
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I'm 95% sure it's not lifetime

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scratch that, 99%

wooden schooner
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I have this cheap espresso machine
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sowtech-Espresso-Machine-3-5-Bar-4-Cup-Maker-Cappuccino/126476128
and it recently stopped working: when set to steam, a lot of air leaks out from places other than the steam wand and there is not enough pressure out the wand to steam milk. I know nothing about anything; does it seem feasible to attempt to repair it, or recycle its parts to build a DIY steamer? (I'm fine with breaking the espresso making functionality if that helps, I only care about the steam wand.)

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This "stovetop steamer" exists but costs twice is much as the above espresso machine:
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/bellman/50ss
AFAICS, the stovetop steamer is simply a sealed metal cup with a valve + wand coming out of it, and a handle for holding the device.

Prima Coffee Equipment
Bellman Stovetop Steamer

Looking to steam milk at home without the large financial costs of a full-on espresso machine? The Bellman Stovetop Milk Steamer is here for you!

lusty fossil
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I'm unsure about the pressures involved with this, but if I learned anything in school, it's that proper pressure vessels are anything but trivial. Probably possible to do, but I personally wouldn't be comfortable doing it

wooden schooner
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ah ok

lusty fossil
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I don't think it's a "your house will explode" issue, but it just isn't something I can personally wholeheartedly recommend.

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The whole field of mechanical engineering exists because of the need to develop design methodology for pressure vessels during the industrial revolution

wooden schooner
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makes sense

lusty fossil
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I think there are certainly more dangerous projects you could attempt, but this is not without risks. You'd hate for it to pop while you were nearby or blow shards into your other appliances/loved ones

wooden schooner
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this is the third espresso machine (all whitelabels of the same thing) I've had to toss over the past 5ish years. I was hoping it would be possible to build a more reliable and cheaper steaming device if one dispenses with the espresso requirement

lusty fossil
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That's a bummer

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properly designing a steam dispersal device doesn't seem trivial to me, makes sense that it's not trivial to find a good one

wooden schooner
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the stovetop one might be more reliable, but it's not cheaper. And I can't really know whether it's reliable without buying it

wooden schooner
lusty fossil
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I may be not picturing what you're talking about right

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I suspect that would probably work, but the devil is always in the details.

wooden schooner
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the product picture on my second link is exactly what I'm talking about

lusty fossil
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Ah yeah, probably. And I suspect these are rigged such that the pressure never really builds too high, but there's a good bit of fine tuning to do there

wooden schooner
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watching the demo video, I see there is a safety valve built into the handle to prevent the pressure from getting too high

lusty fossil
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yeah

wooden schooner
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it does look like a good piece of equipment. Having trouble justifying the price though

lusty fossil
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Yeah that's a good bit of cash

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Unrelated, I got a new laptop and I'm very very excited

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Comes tomorrow

burnt tendon
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The last time espresso machine repair came up, I pointed out that there were actually google hits for "killed in a coffeemaker explosion"

lusty fossil
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Yeah it's an issue.

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They take this stuff VERY seriously.

wooden schooner
lusty fossil
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I assume so? I don't know much about explosions, but I don't think a small carafe can generate a powerful enough pressure wave to do that

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Ooh lunch time! Sandwich time!

wooden schooner
lusty fossil
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Yeah same, I was thinking shrapnel rather than the other methods

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scary stuff! Glad I only drink redbull

wooden schooner
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one of the whitelabeled espresso machines from a year or two ago had a recall of the carafe, replacing it with a metal one

lusty fossil
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(sugar free of course)

wooden schooner
#

of course

lusty fossil
#

because that makes it healthy

wooden schooner
#

I don't have the carafe in the machine, so a bunch of those dangers don't apply. But pressure is still a risky business

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Thanks, logo designer for a standards organization

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late fulcrum
lapis bluff
#

So, I don't know what to do. There were things I wanted to do before S&T, but my Furry Exothermic Lap Inhabitant & Nocturnal Explorer (think fun with acronyms) has decided to perch in my lap so I can't get up. [And, of course, while I typed that she finally did get up, so now I can go do things.]

dusty citrus
#

chemex borosilicate pour-over coffeemaker ftw ;)

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you can fettishize that just as easily

static flare
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Picked this up today

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shadow siren
#

analog meter wet lips drooling

static flare
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I have no clue what it does

late fulcrum
#

Looks like something to do with air/fluid flow

static flare
#

But the meters were the reason I got it

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it was only like, $20

late fulcrum
#

Those illuminated pushbuttons are nice too

static flare
#

yeah!

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they're a bit firm, so I'll have to lube up the mechanism

lusty fossil
#

Idk if this is a feature in nicer cars, but I'd like an indicator of roughly how many gallons away from full I am. I can always over estimate and have the change go back on my card but iirc that takes a little while

crystal ore
#

I have not run across that, but I agree it would be handy...

lusty fossil
#

There must be a reason it doesn't exist? Sloshing is a concern I can think of

late fulcrum
#

I see gallons from empty fairly often. Sloshing is apparently something that can be dealt with.

lusty fossil
#

I would think it is, some sort of statistical analysis/averaging I would guess? I just don't know enough to say.

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I'm trying to get a question about materials science/metallurgy answered. Does anyone know a discord that would fit that? I can't find one

burnt tendon
#

I'm sure there's a metalhead discord somewhere.

lusty fossil
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Lol

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Sometimes I wish google would track me harder, and realize that when I google "steel shafts" I'm really not talking about golf clubs.

wary herald
#

☕☕☕

lusty fossil
#

Upsets my stomach and puts off my appetite too much

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Tastes good tho

wary herald
#

Why do you think I'm still up 🙂 lol

wary herald
dusk oracle
#

I spent a lot of time at the local high schools science class when I was a student there, it wasn't long I got a free pass to look after the science and computer lab having shown my dominance as a scientist at day one.
I ended up burning myself with acid, blowing up a flask with hydrogen in it, making a mess of the lab with hours of cooking chemicals to make rockets and then finally got my privilege's removed "teacher took away my key" after some guy attacked me at school and i defended myself and it turned out it was her kid.. guess who failed her class that year..

wary herald
#

Completely unrelated, do y'all like Agatha Christie's books??

lusty fossil
#

I did when I was younger but I no longer remember them well

wary herald
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I love them

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And Then There Were None is great

lusty fossil
#

TFW wirecutter tells you you already own the best of a product you wanted to replace with a better.

wooden schooner
#

Time to sell your product and make a profit off the hype

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Jk tho, good stuff is nice

lusty fossil
#

It's only 20 bucks new

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I'm looking at professional grade

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Which are a good bit above that

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Really solid mobile web design, great job folks

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weary fiber
#

I'm learning AWS for a cert & I love how useful it is

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but sometimes I balk at how complex 1 feature of 1 service can be

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fiery hearth
static flare
quartz wren
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maybe a vacuum former?

static flare
#

i thought I'd find more about it online

quartz wren
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that's why you didn't find more about it

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it's probably a one off

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or a limited run

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probably a sample climate control if I'm reading the interface correctly and I'm understanding what the company does correctly

static flare
#

Had a peek inside

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datecode 71

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I'm... probably going to end up just taking it apart, sadly

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i have no use for it in its current state

velvet pelican
static flare
#

more mystery boxes!

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lusty fossil
sick adder
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@shadow siren

lusty fossil
#

It's funny, I learned a while back that some critical US military systems still run on the original style of floppies, the kind that were actually floppy

real falcon
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8", or 5" ones? lol

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NASA had to buy some 8" because they still use em

lusty fossil
#

hmmm, I think 8"

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yes 8 in

sick adder
#

Sadly none of them worked😤

real falcon
#

bit rot 😦

hasty wedge
#

watching anime on a 4bits LCD display on an iPod Mini

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The craziest thing is that the SoC of this monochrome iPod is capable of decoding video in hardware

lusty fossil
#

Apple for the most part doesn't mess around

velvet pelican
#

Or just straight raw steel

lusty fossil
#

I'm leaning towards 4140 coated steel

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I'm trying to balance cost, corrosion resistance (incl galvanic corrosion of aluminum components on the shaft), reliability, and structural soundness

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I have to reach out to an expert regarding galvanic corrosion, I need to figure out how much of a big deal it really is

#

Unrelated, any Mistborn fans?

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half iris
lusty fossil
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Yeah that's my understanding as well

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Environment isn't oceanside but does have a heavy marine layer, outside. So I have some concerns about galvanic corrosion between say a 316 shaft and 7075 aluminum mounted components.

velvet pelican
#

Depending on what you want to speed

lusty fossil
#

There's a galvanic reaction between aluminum and stainless that is made worse/possible by electrolytes like salty air/water

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It makes the aluminum weaken/corrode

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unrelated: Ahhhh! I pick up my new laptop in like 1.5 hours!

lusty fossil
#

But getting an already coated 4140 shaft, or even paying to coat it, is reasonable

velvet pelican
#

Cool

burnt tendon
#

I mean, once the first piece of metal corroded, the experience galvanized people to fix it.

lusty fossil
#

lolol

burnt tendon
#

I will say that of the stories of weird stuff that happened in college, an astonishingly high number of them feature materials engineering students.

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It seems like a fascinating field, though, even if it does drive you half mad.

lusty fossil
#

They are an odd bunch. I mean they are basically chemists after all, and chemists are known to be strange

burnt tendon
#

I guess chemistry frustrated me because I realized that, now that I'm adult and could buy chemistry supplies for funses, the only thing that I'm really inspired to make is a pipe bomb because everything else feels like too much work.

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Whereas at least with materials science, it feels a bit more immediately practical.

lusty fossil
#

IDK, the chemists I knew in college got up to some serious hijinks.

burnt tendon
#

Although I guess the inherent uncertainty involved in alloy construction and metalurgy would still come to the same place where I just don't like that I can't sit down with a calculator and equations and actually figure chemistry stuff out. It's all like "It's organic chemistry, here's weird stuff"

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Yeah, that wasn't saying that making stuff blow up for fun wasn't part of being a chemist.

#

Then again, I do enjoy baking quite precisely with a scale instead of cups.

lusty fossil
#

Indeed, baking is great

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I use cups because that's what all my mom's recipes use but I want to find some relevant recipes from the civilized world and get a nice kitchen scale

burnt tendon
#

I have actually converted some of my mom's recipes to weight.

lusty fossil
#

might be a fun project for us to do together some time. We don't live that close though

burnt tendon
#

Somehow lately enough people fussed about it that a good chunk of the cool baking cookbooks I've encountered have weights.

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My mother-in-law's recipes lack any sort of measurement whatsoever.

lusty fossil
#

oof

burnt tendon
#

Although they don't have a baking-things-in-the-oven culture in the same way.

lusty fossil
#

I learned some interesting facts about ovens in the UK and possibly western europe in a college class, I can't recall them tho :/

dusty citrus
#

Weights would vary by moisture content.

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I weigh water because that's accurate.

burnt tendon
#

What I ended up doing was using a table of cups-to-weight and that was good enough.

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I mean, anything with cups is going to vary by an astonishing amount.

lusty fossil
#

Would not volume also vary by moisture content?

dusty citrus
#

If it gets crumbly. (/gerry)

static flare
#

My boards gave arrived!

hasty wedge
lusty fossil
#

I got my laptop! I hate windows11!

fading hare
#

I am actually kind of liking Windows 11. Then again, I am not an old man, rigid in his thinking, like @lusty fossil over here. 😉

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(hoping I am older than you)

lusty fossil
#

I just thought that windows 10's user experience was nice and I find 11 less intuitive by far

fading hare
#

You can make 11 look almost exactly like Windows 10. If you just start configuring things.

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But, I like the default experience.

lusty fossil
#

You can, I just don't see why they messed so much with a winning formula

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There are other things they could have improved, like explorer

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@wooden schooner, I'm considering Linux I just need to see if all the programs I think I might want exist for linux

fading hare
#

explorer is still solid, and I don't think there's anything better

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if you're a Mac user and you like the weird lanes, I am sorry for you

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@lusty fossil feel free to ask about programs for Linux, and how to best run Windows ones. 🙂 I have some experience.

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Anyway. My primary workstation is Manjaro.

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My new laptop is Windows 11.

lusty fossil
#

I'm just now looking into the Adams family (not the media property). I think I want Adam's View.

fading hare
#

My cheap laptop runs Manjaro, and my RPi 400 runs Manjaro ARM Sway.

fading hare
lusty fossil
#

This is a CAD machine so I can't be too hampered

fading hare
#

What would hamper you?

lusty fossil
#

It's multibody dynamics analysis software

fading hare
#

so Windows is the only option

lusty fossil
#

A decent number of engineering programs are windows only

fading hare
#

and if it uses certain hardware acceleration it might not work inside VirtualBox or similar

#

but, it's worth giving it a try before you commit

lusty fossil
#

I really don't think I can afford adams any time soon, but I want it.

fading hare
#

I'd start with running Manjaro KDE on a USB drive (get an A2 drive or you'll be annoyed with how slow the drive is) and install VirtualBox and see what you can try.

lusty fossil
#

What I really need is much simpler than what adams offers

fading hare
#

So, Adams is the program we're talking about?

lusty fossil
#

Yup I'm sleepy so I'm drifting conversationally

fading hare
#

I can't help you with finding an alternative there, but I know there are plenty of scientific and engineering applications for Linux. Maybe there's an alternative.

lusty fossil
#

Yeah I'll look around

fading hare
#

But, it would definitely be worth testing in a VirtualBox image running Windows 10 (on a Linux host). I am partial to Manjaro, because it's very easy to configure and tweak, and it's pretty robust as long as you don't try to run the latest and greatest kernel.

#

and it also looks amazing

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and I can run it in dark mode with Gruvbox... my light sensitivity has gotten worse over the years, and if there's too much light, I get ocular migraines that are brutal. Like giant cones of swarming static just closing in over my optic nerves.

lusty fossil
#

Cool thanks!

dapper hatch
#

Wow, things are getting good in the Linux world. Been a few years since I had to do some micro controller work. The Segger J-Tag tool chain just works on my Linux box. I can avoid using the overpriced IDE's and use CMake and the Arm GNU tool chain. Still have a lot to catch up on but, as they say, today is a find day for science! 🙂

#

I remeber a day when to get this kind of view meant a Windows VM, fighting with USB pass through and asking the boss for a $2000 purchase order.

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late fulcrum
#

Kewl. I tried for years to get FPGA tools running under Linux and never succeeded. Fortunately, eventually IceStorm showed up and solved that problem (for Lattice chips, anyway).

burnt tendon
#

I am sad that I ended up leaving the 3D printing engineering software startup I was at before I got to do horrific things to Windows in support of fully automating Windows-only software.

dapper hatch
static flare
#

I'm officially bad at this :/ Tried building the PSU but I got overwhelmed very easily and I just kinda wanna buy a new unit instead

dapper hatch
lusty fossil
#

I can't speak to the health claims this drink makes but it sure tastes good.

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dapper hatch
#

What is that third 'activity' logo at the bottom? It's either yoga or Tux. 🤣

lusty fossil
#

I think yoga but who wants an energy drink with yoga?

dapper hatch
tawdry tulip
lusty fossil
#

That makes sense

dapper hatch
#

Does look nice. 🙂 I've recently got into fruit teas. Got told off by my doc for drinking too much coffee.

lusty fossil
#

I drink one simply caffeinated drink and one seriously caffeinated drink a day. I think I'm OK?

dapper hatch
tidal flare
lusty fossil
lusty fossil
#

Is groupme still the best/most popular cross platform texting app? My boss has a tendency to start a new group chat all the time. A platform designed for group chatting that works on all (well windows phone can be excluded) would be good, I think

fading hare
# dapper hatch 🤣

Linus admits nothing. He just blocks your PR and tells you what a FVKN i-d-t you are.

fading hare
#

And Telegram is full of crypto NFT monsters.

lusty fossil
#

Hmm, security is probably good. But my boss isn't super techy so something that is pretty private (e.g doesn't have influencers/a social media aspect) is best.

#

We just need to manage texting among like 5-10 people

#

is your discord account different than your account for discord support?

blissful roost
#

Good way to narrow it down to one..

blissful roost
#

Which CPU are you using.. and how much RAM?

fiery hearth
vernal yoke
#

Did you enable VT-X?

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Always the first thing to check

vernal yoke
#

It also uses some Signal protocol based thing

fading hare
#

Meh. At that point you're better off using proper masking and plain IRC.

vernal yoke
fading hare
#

Matrix is a client that supports many protocols, IRC included.

vernal yoke
fading hare
#

Yeah.

vernal yoke
fading hare
#

That's it.

vernal yoke
#

I don't remember IRC being included

#

I thought it only uses its own protocol

fading hare
vernal yoke
#

To allow IRC or Discord users to interact

fading hare
#

brah, let's be real, you're quick to disagree, but you are also really bad at taking criticism

vernal yoke
#

Those show as separate accounts though

fading hare
#

it's the other way around, to allow Matrix users to interact with IRC

vernal yoke
vernal yoke
fading hare
#

and there's no way to confirm that Matrix account from standard IRC, essentially forcing people to validate outside of IRC just to make sure that they are talking to someone real

vernal yoke
#

You don't need to bridge anything

fading hare
#

lol

#

so, do this...

vernal yoke
#

You probably need to if it's a non-technical audience

fading hare
#

create an actual IRC account somewhere, and then go find some channels with Matrix users, and tell me what you see and think about that

vernal yoke
#

And even then, those who care more about convenience than privacy

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Me included

fading hare
#

The only thing you've accomplished by using Matrix to post on IRC channels is obfuscation, not privacy, necessarily. And, that is abused more than it is actually used.

vernal yoke
#

Why is there a Genshin Impact room

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vernal yoke
#

At the same time, a community might have a just-Matrix room/channel

fading hare
#

I get it, you are too young or whatever to ever have used IRC...

vernal yoke
#

For security or something

vernal yoke
#

I don't know IRC well at all

fading hare
#

But, Matrix users are a plague when it comes to IRC.

vernal yoke
#

Get them off IRC :)

#

What I really meant was

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Matrix as a standalone platform sounds good

fading hare
#

Meh. Don't need to get them off of IRC. They're just the equivalent of the squeaker kid on the CoD server...

vernal yoke
#

I wasn't thinking of bridging and all

fading hare
#

Have you explored Mastodon?

vernal yoke
#

Uh, once, on someone's server

fading hare
#

It's also distributed.

vernal yoke
#

I've seen a lot of NSFW stuff there

#

No idea how

#

I wasn't looking for it

#

But Federated

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

fading hare
#

I guess that's what you went looking for. By way of trying to connect to your "peers" online.

vernal yoke
#

?

#

I only got Matrix because I needed it for some community

#

Because Discord ToS

#

I tried Mastodon because a friend suggested I use their server

fading hare
#

I was talking about you "receiving" a bunch of prn from Mastodon.

vernal yoke
vernal yoke
fading hare
#

Of which server?

vernal yoke
#

Of a regular Mastodon server a friend set up

#

Probably didn't filter anything

#

In the beginning

#

He got rid of those other servers from the feed

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

No idea how Mastodon works

fading hare
#

Uh. So, yeah, you have to actually add those federated server links.

vernal yoke
#

I can't imagine that guy adding those links

#

From my personal experience, he clearly likes avoiding that

fading hare
#

Allegedly.

vernal yoke
#

Allegedly

fading hare
#

Are his emojis and or profile pictures mostly Pepe the Frog?

vernal yoke
#

NOPE

#

Not even close

fading hare
#

I am curious now. What avatar does he use? Feel free to PM me so I can tell his fortune.

vernal yoke
#

Naturally, I don't trust that

#

You're probably going to do some image search with that avatar

#

It's just a Minecraft-like face on a blue background

fading hare
#

Nah. I don't care, bro.

#

The only time I've ever traced someone online was a person that caused physical, and psychological harm to my friends and family. Found out they were in jail, and subsequently prison, so I figured I did not have to continue said search.

vernal yoke
#

Huh

#

Does that mean your swap memory goes boom?

#

Or your entire OS?

#

just load your entire os into a ramdisk

#

or store it in an initramfs

late fulcrum
#

A flash drive is not RAM.

vernal yoke
#

Huh

#

Aren't you supposed to be able to unplug a USB after it loads an initramfs?

#

I always thought loading an initramfs means it loads everything into RAM

#

Which allows the USB to be unplugged

#

Apparently SquashFS doesn't decompress everything into RAM

#

It just gets individual files when needed

#

And I recall SquashFS being used in most ISOs

lusty fossil
#

Anyone I'm CA? How do you deal with site where they don't give you an obvious way to opt out of tracking? Many of these sites try to make you reach out to them including sometimes their legal department.

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vernal yoke
lusty fossil
#

I meant in general

vernal yoke
#

Can't you just block cookies and local storage

#

And remove the dialog using DevTools

lusty fossil
#

On my phone?

vernal yoke
#

Oh

#

Never mind

late fulcrum
vernal yoke
#

True

lusty fossil
#

I've heard rumblings that our legislature is going to crack down on these companies but nothing has changed yet

#

I love capping a long week with Indian food

late fulcrum
#

I ended up having Thai

lusty fossil
#

Nice, love Thai. I was walking towards a Japanese place but the smell of Indian cooking drifted out and I couldn't resist

lusty fossil
#

I'm trying to find something I was looking at thru the Google search app on my android phone. Not chrome, but the search app. Does anyone know how to find that history? I can't find out online

lusty fossil
#

Got it

burnt tendon
#

I have the makings for Indian in my fridge.

#

Thai is frustrating because I checked out a Thai cookbook and realized that getting all of the ingredients to make it fully from scratch was too much of a hunt.

#

Nothing's better than biking through a fairly Indian neighborhood and having the lovely aroma of onions being fried wafting through an astonishing number of windows.

fading hare
#

You know the whole "you gotta pick 4 of these foods" or whatever memes? If I could choose, I would keep Indian food, Vietnamese food, and Swedish Kebab Pizza.

weary fiber
#

I know "liking sushi" is a bit of a meme at this point, but raw salmon is one of those foods for me

burnt tendon
#

Swedish Kebab Pizza sounds interesting.

#

I married into an Indian family so Indian food has to be on the list for me.

#

This weekend on Sunday we're going to a local Korean market with a hot food line and they've got a bunch of interesting concoctions including something that contains both rice cakes and hot dog.

#

This sounds like a Swedish Kebab Pizza sort of invention.

#

I also still need to go to Scotland so I can get a munchy box.

lusty fossil
#

It isn't strictly the same thing as true Japanese food, because it's been heavily modified by moving to America, but the style of teriyaki I grew up with in seattle/the PNW is my absolute favorite comfort food

dapper hatch
#

Does sound like a ram issue. Not all ram allocations can be moved to swap. I have had an issue with a lenovo laptop. Had one 16GB dimm with a free slot. I got another 16GB dimm, with all the same settings as the original. Laptop said no. Looks like they are forcing us to use their over priced memory.

blissful roost
#

My laptop runs VMs just fine with only 8GB RAM and a lesser CPU.

#

Seems to have all the features for good VMing.

static flare
#

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AC-DC-Volt-Converter-220V-230V-240V-to-36V-7A-Power-Supply-Switching-Transformer-/253855611844?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 Would this be an okay option for getting the voltage I need? At the moment I have a huge transformer, and I want to empty out the insides a bit for ease of use, and Wasn't sure if I can replace the transformer and rectifier with that board instead

eBay
AC-DC Volt Converter 220V 230V 240V to 36V 7A Power Supply Switchin...

The module has over current protection,overload protection and short circuit protection function. Input is: AC 175V-245V, output: DC 24V/9A. Small size, with LED indicator light. Module size: 125mm 65.6mm 33mm.

late fulcrum
#

Yes, that's a switching power supply, so it does the same sort of thing with a smaller size and weight. The drawback of inexpensive ones like that is they can have marginal insulation.

static flare
#

That's something I can fix myself, right?

#

Also, just tested out what I have at the moment, input jack went bang

#

scary stuff

late fulcrum
static flare
#

ah

#

i did kinda want to compact it down

#

cause this transformer is unwieldy

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But back to ordering a replacement for the C14 socket that blew

late fulcrum
#

Exactly. There's a bit of a minimum size for 250 watt supplies. One brand I'm fond of is Mean Well, who build some decent quality, moderately priced power supplies.

static flare
#

Not sure if I should just buy premade 36V 5A brick

#

cause that's what my circuit needs

late fulcrum
#

That's basically what the eBay one you linked is. The tricky part is knowing whether it is properly insulated/isolated.

lusty fossil
#

Anyone know if there's a way to paste an invite link into discord mobile? I am being lazy and don't want to go get my laptop

late fulcrum
#

I don't know offhand, but my first (admittedly possibly impractical) thought is to make it into a QR code and read it in with your phone camera

lusty fossil
#

I don't have a printer heheh and I think that might require a laptop anyways. I'll just be lazy

late fulcrum
#

Laziness is the mother of invention!

lusty fossil
#

I am really good at the first half of that sentence

blissful roost
#

You just copy and paste, like normal... 😐

lusty fossil
#

Where to tho?

#

Oh I see. Sorry, it's still early for me

blissful roost
#

So, is it generating a lot of heat when running VMs?
What's the actual issue?

#

Just drop me a PM when you get around to investigating.

honest jolt
#

Ah yes, I must install an app from the apple app store on my android

real falcon
#

jeez. thats uber scummy

honest jolt
#

Yea

#

Clicked on a website on programing and boom ios dialog

#

(think the domain I clicked on was codeloop or something like that)

vernal yoke
vernal yoke
#

Also "Mobile" is capitalized

#

"from Apple Store"

#

The "Install Now" button is fat

#

Etc.

late fulcrum
#

Just a retread of the old "update Flash" malware

vernal yoke
#

So there is no way it's malware

#

Maybe adware

late fulcrum
#

I assume the "Install Now" link doesn't lead to the actual Apple app store.

honest jolt
#

I dont intend on finding out what's on the other side of the button lol

blissful roost
#

Yeah.. obviously malicious.

lusty fossil
#

I don't like when a module/pcb doesn't have mounting holes. Makes my life much harder

late fulcrum
#

There are products made to address such situations, but yeah, it's a pain

lusty fossil
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Yeah I'm just going to 3D print some stuff to deal with it.

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Also anyone watch pennyworth? I'm sitting down to watch TV for the first time in at least a month and idk what to watch.

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Seems like a reasonably interesting concept, but I could see it being not good

lusty fossil
late fulcrum
lusty fossil
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Ahh ok

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Thx

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That might work quite well

blissful roost
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Sweetness!!
Just snagged a Pi Zero 2 W. 😁

vernal yoke
velvet pelican
lusty fossil
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I figured it out, I'd forgotten that there was a way to do it in mobile. Yes a link from another discord

velvet pelican
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yeah same way you do it on PC click at the top yada yada

lusty fossil
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Yeah

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Thx

velvet pelican
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got my lidar sensor in yesterday

lusty fossil
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Nice

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I'm trying to learn about shaft seals

velvet pelican
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what do ya want to know?

lusty fossil
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I'm just trying to find a way to mount one on the wall of a plastic (or perhaps thin steel) enclosure

velvet pelican
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bob marley

lusty fossil
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They make ones for pots

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That have threading

velvet pelican
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i would recommend press in style

lusty fossil
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Yeah I just have to find one that will work

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This is quite light duty

velvet pelican
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will this be under pressure or just to hold oil from fallling out
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generally try to anyways

lusty fossil
velvet pelican
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ok then get a speedy sleeve thats a bit smaller than the opening and a seal that will fit the shaft and sleeve

late fulcrum
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There are simple approaches (like a packing box), friction seals, labyrinth seals, and true hermetic seals.

velvet pelican
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then from there epoxy or jb weld the sleeve into the threded portion

lusty fossil
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I need something that can be rained on heavily without leaking into the enclosure

velvet pelican
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if you want an easy solution that is

lusty fossil
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I want a good solution, if it's reasonable time and money cost wise

velvet pelican
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wouldnt say it isnt goood... just not a machined part

late fulcrum
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A packing box (also known as a stuffing box) is arguably a good solution (used for many decades), is low cost and conceptually simple.

velvet pelican
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seen an engine block sealed up on the water jacket after it cracked with jb weld

late fulcrum
velvet pelican
lusty fossil
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If it works for boats it's more than enough for me

velvet pelican
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gotta get out that calliper and size the shaft

lusty fossil
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The shaft in question is small, 1/4", I trust the manufacturer to have tight tolerances

velvet pelican
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nice thing about most seals is there is room for error

lusty fossil
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Also the shaft isn't long, I have like an inch to work with and I need to attach stuff to it so less than that

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Yeah all the stuffing boxes I'm seeing are for much larger shafts

velvet pelican
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might be able to use a rubber grommet

lusty fossil
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Yeah I was thinking of that

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I'd rather find a solution that's designed for what I'm trying to achieve, if I can

velvet pelican
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wheni hear of a shaft seal i thing of larger stuff like axel seals

lusty fossil
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Yeah they do make small shaft seals

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It's just finding one that can be mounted in a low profile way to some thin material that's hard

velvet pelican
lusty fossil
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I'm finding plenty of large bore options

lusty fossil
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I could always use a metal chassis and do an interference fit with a hot torch

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Lol

velvet pelican
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yeah those might be your best option... maybe get a retainer ring to slide over the shaft that fits the seal

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for my jeep axels they use a retainer ring that the seal rides on.. that retainer is pressed onto the axel shaft

lusty fossil
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Working for free on the weekend because I'm a fool

velvet pelican
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working for free is a hobby of mine

lusty fossil
velvet pelican
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ahh then yeah either get ahold of a seal manufacturer or someone like granger who specializes in that field

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or rubber grommet and grease

lusty fossil
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Yeah I have trouble getting ahold of anything at grainger that is less than .5" bore

velvet pelican
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moly graph works good to prevent weardown

lusty fossil
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If I had my druthers I'd find something that needs really minimal servicing

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I won't have reliable access to this once it's built so the less that someone else is responsible for, the better

velvet pelican
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used to be a company here called otts friction supply that sold seals... i dont think they are in business anymore though

lusty fossil
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Bummer. I'll keep digging. Thanks

velvet pelican
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no problem lots of options out there... also dont forget to check in with your local auto parts store

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if you have a good tech thats been in the business they will know where ya can go

lusty fossil
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Yeah that's always a good choice. Quite critical for me is to find CAD drawings tho so I can design for the thing

velvet pelican
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i used to work for napa. the sales rep they had when i worked there was able to pull up full specs on any seal

lusty fossil
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Oh great. I'll look at their website

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Or rather the equivalent we have in town

velvet pelican
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all the options arent always online... sometimes ya gotta go by the book

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taking a trip into town and asking might be better if ya cant find answers on the website

lusty fossil
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Yeah

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Unfortunately the stores are in MY town but not the town I work in 40 miles away, and I don't have time in the morning. It will have to be next weekend

velvet pelican
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back when i worked there they had 15 different suppliers for different stuff they could direct ya to

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3mm is just under 1/4"

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this should fit for ya

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er wait

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i read that wrong

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itd need to be 6mm

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thatn

lusty fossil
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Hmm I think something that's exactly 1/4" would be optimal

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Thx tho

late fulcrum
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You can make your own packing box. Plumbing supply stores sell graphite stem valve packing, wind that around your shaft and compress it and voilà