general-chat

[lusty fossil]

Thanks for the suggestion though

[wooden schooner]

yeah totally. Fwiw (and basically irrelevant), this involves absolutely no web programming, that's all done by the docs generation tools.

it's basically just sysadmin stuff (cron, deploy keys)

[lusty fossil]

yeah it sounds attractive but sysadmin is also above my level.

we need a Nobel prize for people who invent things that help the chronically cold. Whoever has the patent on the first space heater should (possibly posthumously) get the first one.

Wool socks is second

[wooden schooner]

I only recently discovered I could use this term to describe the little tasks I do that are not within my job description (and are unstaffed)

[wooden schooner]

that would be sheep my friend

a worthy recipient, for sure

[lusty fossil]

Sheepies need some love

And probably a bath

[silver shale]

has been that for as long as I remember

[silver shale]

Probably intel lol

[lusty fossil]

I feel like the deathtrap space heaters of old pre-date intel but I don't know

[silver shale]

joke about the inefficiencies of x86

[lusty fossil]

oooooh

sorry I'm distracted. Nice one

[fading hare]

My neighbor grew up using these inside the house, because that's how poor they were. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Mr-Heater-Contractor-80-000-BTU-Forced-Air-Kerosene-Diesel-Heater-MHC80KT/316812861

[lusty fossil]

yeah I've seen those. They are intense

[fading hare]

They also cause damage to the nervous system and all kinds of other things.

[wooden schooner]

Again relevant

[fading hare]

I mean, some days in the winter I will run both my gaming rig, my workstation, and my 3D printer. Voila. Room is toasty.

[wooden schooner]

Cook food → coldness flows from apartment into oven

[fading hare]

Speaking of workstation... Does anybody have a good alternative low-clearance fan to this one? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075SG1T3X

When I was compiling and doing a bunch of stuff yesterday it was hovering in the 73-74'C range.

Which, I think is a bit on the hot side.

I have some constraints because I had to get a smaller case to fit this guy on my desk.

It's housed in one of these cases: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P998NM9

Ping me if you also build big computers and have some ideas.

[silver shale]

The dual socket machine I built, the cooling consisted of two of Supermicro's 1U heatsinks (for the X8 series board I have) with some 80mm fans strapped to them with zip ties.

[fading hare]

hahahaha

that's amazing

[silver shale]

Stayed cool even when having eight Windows 10 VMs running on top of Debian

[fading hare]

I wonder if a 140mm AIO cooler will have better efficiency at cooling this Ryzen 5 5600X that isn't even overclocked.

right now I have a 140mm fan in the front, and then the GPU sits on the side, with its fans pulling air in as well, so I think I have way too much positive pressure, so I think the air just floats around the CPU and keeps it perpetually hot.

There's no room for exhaust fans, really, but at least the PSU pushes air out as well

[blissful roost]

I would go bigger.. better cooling.

[fading hare]

Bigger where?

[blissful roost]

Everything

[fading hare]

Well, I can't afford to replace everything.

[blissful roost]

If it's a space constraint, I understand.

[silver shale]

heh, got X5670s in that desktop, think a Ryzen would be much more power efficient

[blissful roost]

Sorry, I only meant case and cooling

I should have been specific.

[fading hare]

Yeah, but that's still like $200.

[blissful roost]

Hehe

[fading hare]

I was thinking... Maybe if the AIO would work better than the little Noctua

[blissful roost]

Ok, yeah. An AIO could be better.

But only if the rad is big enough to outdo the current cooler.

[fading hare]

Can only fit a 140mm.

[blissful roost]

I'd hit up Google.
Current Vs potential replacement

[fading hare]

so, that's how much space I have, which is not a lot.

[blissful roost]

I've always preferred big cases, just because better airflow

[fading hare]

I would rather not give up the space I have to the left there, in front of the little white case

[blissful roost]

... and I really don't have the space. Lol

[fading hare]

this is also a standing desk, so it all has to move with it

[blissful roost]

I'll drop a pic some time, but it's a mess right now

[fading hare]

And I just doxxed myself. 😄

[lusty fossil]

guns are a nono here, I think

[fading hare]

Yeah, I deleted.

I didn't realize it was there when I snapped the picture.

[lusty fossil]

it's still there

[fading hare]

I've deleted it.

[lusty fossil]

Oh I meant like discussing them is I think not allowed. But IDK for sure

[fading hare]

and the image is still in the CDN

FML

lol

[fading hare]

Hey, it's not like I am hard to find anyway.

[silver shale]

CDN deletes stuff shortly after the message is deleted, learned that before with linking images.

[fading hare]

That's the exact same picture you posted last time. Do you actually have a real room? Are you desk catfishing right now?

[blissful roost]

Lol. No.

It's an absolute mess, seriously

I'm living the single life right now, so.. lazy.

[fading hare]

Well, if anybody wants to stop by for some tea or coffee, I'm not hard to find. Especially not with doxxing myself on the Discord.

[blissful roost]

Haha

I didn't even notice whatever you mean.

[fading hare]

I wish my name was something generic.

[blissful roost]

I'm a bit camembert right now.

[fading hare]

Like, my name combo as it is, is completely unique in the entire world. Unfortunate. Very few Bjers in the world, and no other Torgny's, unless someone has been born recently.

[blissful roost]

Apparently, I'm a tennis coach. Lel

[silver shale]

My real name is on my site so I do not care if people know it

[blissful roost]

The government already knows who I am.... How bad can it be, right? 😂

[fading hare]

hahaha, that's the closest you get to a variant of my name

@silver shale what's your site again? 😛

[silver shale]

https://crazyblockstech.com

[fading hare]

oh word

[blissful roost]

Hehe

[fading hare]

what looks like advertising? the address I posted above? I mean. If you are in need of some consulting in Täby, Sweden, tell them Torgny sent you. I'm sure you'll get a discount.

Täby, by the way, is the northern-most suburb to Stockholm.

@shy dove https://crazyblockstech.com/projects/mediacow/ OK. Now. You need to put an empty .htaccess file in that directory.

[silver shale]

ah, yeah to be honest, I have not touched the site in a while

[fading hare]

omg you have some old computers on your instagram

[silver shale]

should update it though

[blissful roost]

Seems all the URLs under Projects might be broken.

[fading hare]

yah, little borked

[silver shale]

never made them yet

[blissful roost]

👍

[fading hare]

just turn the front page into a 90's "under construction" page

[blissful roost]

Reminds me.. I need to look at WordPress again.

Uuugghhhh

[silver shale]

did everything by hand in VIM and Nano over SSH

[fading hare]

http://textfiles.com/underconstruction/

There's every "under construction" gif ever made in the 90s

[silver shale]

blast from the past

[fading hare]

yeah, I had to scroll down to make sure it was SFW, and it was.

[lusty fossil]

That legit gave me a headache.

[fading hare]

oh yeah, it's a bit... intense

[silver shale]

Here is WBPC5-B, have not shown it off yet

[fading hare]

oh yeah

[silver shale]

Temporarily using the Sandy Bridge E5-2643. BIOS was not new enough for the Ivy version that I was originally going to put in there.

Did update the BIOS and now I could put the new one in. Cannot use all four memory channels until I use the new CPU.

[blissful roost]

I really should get some kit for my E5-2620

[hasty wedge]

any audiophile here?

I am driving a 135W subwoofer with a 100W amplifier

I am not sure if that's okay or not

[late fulcrum]

That's totally okay.

The ratings are maxima, so the speaker can withstand up to 135W of signal.

[hasty wedge]

thank you

I guess I should be careful with my amp since distortion from low wattage amps are the most common driver killer

[late fulcrum]

That's hardly a low wattage amp, and I expect you aren't overdriving it. Also, most of that kind of clipping distortion is higher frequency harmonics: something a subwoofer will generally cheerfully ignore.

[silver shale]

https://xkcd.com/1301/ oh that one that got me into typesetting in LaTeX originally

xkcd: File Extensions

I have never been lied to by data in a .txt file which has been hand-aligned.

[lusty fossil]

🦜 .tex gang 🦜

[fading hare]

Well. On top of that should be: .asc.

Because, it could be encrypted, and then it's all of a sudden way more trustworthy. Until you decrypt it, I guess.

I just finished my MagTag calendar! Deep sleeps for 30 minutes. Can be woken from deep sleep to turn the lights on for 3 seconds, then it deep sleeps again.

Next up:

LoRaWAN gateway/concentrator.

[wooden schooner]

every .csv file contains no information until it has undergone extensive data cleaning. At that point, it will contain information, and might contain useful and/or accurate information.

[fading hare]

Triggered. I once had to parse MS Word .doc files for content that was supposed to go on this one website. There were hundreds and hundreds of word docs. That was probably the saddest week of my software development career. But hey, we delivered on time.

[wary herald]

[fading hare]

Upside: it saved the women in the support department like 3 weeks of copying and pasting into a CMS with like 4 people doing it at the same time.

[wary herald]

hehehe

[fading hare]

Also, traumatized from thinking about sales people. "SURE! We can do that! When do you want it? TOMORROW? YEAH MAN, we've got you bro!"

[lusty fossil]

I once saved a coworker weeks of manually editing addresses and sorting data with some regexes and a simple script. I was popular with her for a while.

Although addresses are not regular so that was fun

[fading hare]

try it with Word documents that do not have the same headers/footers, and or document structure as far as H1-H7 goes.

I drank a lot of Guinness after that week.

What really broke me on that project though was when the Farsi translator didn't send me the text in the correct format and it ended up outputting it in Arabic. I kept looking at the pages and thinking, there's something wrong here. I don't know what, but the pattern recognition leprechaun running around in the recesses of my brain is saying something's up.

This was in like 2001. When the Internet was just about as inclusive as a Klan rally.

But, I got on a call with the translator and told him, this doesn't look right. Something's wrong. He asks: "oh you speak Farsi?!" I was like, no sir, I just know this doesn't look like what it is supposed to look like. We didn't get very far, so I was just like, dude, come to the office, and I will show you. He comes over, we have some coffee and some cookies chatting, and then we walk over to my computer and I fire up the site and he has what I think might have been a minor brain aneurysm. 😄 He's like, how did you know? I shrugged.

[silver shale]

seen cases where encrypted zip files were used for malware to avoid being scanned by antimalware software

[silver shale]

took me a while but finally got the webapp I was developing off a Debian laptop, onto Nextcloud then using netcat to transfer it to a FreeBSD server... and somehow from a Chromebook 😅

[late fulcrum]

netcat, that brings back memories. I actually used it a few days ago myself.

[vernal yoke]

https://xkcd.com/1181/

xkcd: PGP

If you want to be extra safe, check that there's a big block of jumbled characters at the bottom.

[wooden schooner]

That only verifies that the sender is a nerd, not that the message is undoctored.

[pearl vigil]

tis the joke

[wooden schooner]

I suppose you could say that. I see the joke as having more to do with the recipient evidently caring more about looking like they are following security practices than about the actual level of security (which has a flavor of corporate humor, since that is often how mismanaged companies work)

[vernal yoke]

As the saying goes, r/whooosh

[wooden schooner]

Ever wonder why roller coaster operators put their hand to their forehead before the roller coaster leaves the station, even when there's no sun out? It's because that's how they were taught to do the safety check in the training video.

[vernal yoke]

?

[wooden schooner]

Mandatory training videos are a whole genre of corporate absurdity that are often good comedy material

[vernal yoke]

Wait...

[vernal yoke]

Whose safety does that even check lol

[lusty fossil]

If you don't see it happen, you know your safety is in the hands of a true carnie.

[wooden schooner]

Presumably, the actor in the video used their hand as a visor to scan the area for safety hazards on a sunny day. Then that hand gesture became the emblem of safety compliance.

[vernal yoke]

scan the area for safety hazards on a sunny day
That in and of itself sounds stupid

[fading hare]

that's amazing

if you want to see something truly terrifying, and hilarious, watch old police training videos

[wooden schooner]

I don't have the stomach for that unfortunately

Is the punch line that they blatantly romanticize confrontation over de-escalation?

[fading hare]

Basically, but also some of the worst advice for tactics and safety.

[lusty fossil]

is there a way in g-mail for me to have an email from a specific sender also send me a text? I am on the waitlist for a part but it's a popular part and I don't want to miss out because I didn't check my email fast enough.

[fading hare]

IFTTT perhaps?

[umbral phoenix]

there are sometimes email-equivalents for SMS, and if so could be used as a forwarding email address

[fading hare]

Also, I officially hate every single keyboard I have ever built.

I used metal cases, and they're conducting current into my hands. I am not sure if it's these crappy KPRepublic boards, the like 5 USB C cables I've tried, or if it's this powered USB hub switcher that's causing it and I am too irritated to troubleshoot it. So here I am, writing on an official Raspberry Pi keyboard.

[silver shale]

dev your own boards

[fading hare]

I am not good enough to do that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[late fulcrum]

This may fix it (if your keebs draw less than 100mA) https://www.adafruit.com/product/2107

[fading hare]

Added to my wish list.

[fading hare]

How would I go about trying to chase down what's causing this issue?

[late fulcrum]

I'd get a multimeter and look for voltage between your various power sources and ground. For more accuracy, carefully measure the current.

[fading hare]

So, in the case of a USB hub, should I use a USB multimeter? I have one of these: https://smile.amazon.com/MakerHawk-Bluetooth-Capacity-Multimeter-Voltmeter/dp/B07DCSNHNB

but... well, maybe not, eh? Then I can't measure against ground... so how do I connect something to that USB hub that I can stick a multimeter probe on?

Preferably without cutting a cable open. Well, or maybe that's what I'll do?

[late fulcrum]

Measure between the connector shell and ground.

[fading hare]

So, in the case of a keyboard that's connected to a USB hub via a USB C to A cable, where do I put the probes?

(I am really, really new at electrical stuff and have not worked with it at all through my career/hobbies)

But, I guess I am catching up now, eh?

[late fulcrum]

One probe to something grounded, and one probe to a USB connector shell

[fading hare]

what is a connector shell?

[late fulcrum]

The outer metallic part of a USB connector

[fading hare]

of the female jack, or on the cable itself?

[late fulcrum]

It's generally easier on the cable itself

[fading hare]

OK, so do I leave the keyboard plugged in? And what would a good source of ground be in this case?

Or do I just unplug the keyboard and test from the outer connector shell of that cable and then connect it to ground?

[late fulcrum]

Normally you need to unplug something to get at the connector shell

[fading hare]

Yeah, that's what I figured.

[late fulcrum]

As for a good ground, that depends somewhat on what you have available. If you're in a structure with copper water pipes, those are a good bet.

[fading hare]

I was just thinking that I could probably reach the shell of the cable while it's plugged in, because of the way the case leaves an opening, and how USB C don't go all the way into the socket

I don't really have anything like that readily available near the office I don't think.

And I don't think there's any copper piping left in this house. It's all plastic.

[late fulcrum]

Perhaps some appliance with a grounded plug and a metallic case (you can verify that the case is grounded with your multimeter)

[fading hare]

(though that's really good to know about the copper pipes)

[late fulcrum]

It can be tricky, as a bunch of things that are supposed to be grounded may not be (which can in fact be your problem: it could be your equipment is fine, but the electrical wiring has issues)

In my house, there's a thick wire running from the incoming pipe to the electrical panel, to make their "ground" references agree. The panel is also connected to a pair of ground rods.

[fading hare]

I also get really charged up with static electricity in the winter, so I sit down at my desk, and half of the time I zap the keyboard so bad through the case that I have to unplug and replug it again.

[late fulcrum]

I used to carry around a little neon bulb to discharge static electricity

[fading hare]

Wait, what? Link me!

I zap myself silly on anything from car door handles (if they're metal) to door handles to whatever.

[late fulcrum]

Bog standard neon bulb like this https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/visual-communications-company-vcc/A2A/3151670

[fading hare]

huh, cool, OK, I'll give it a try

[lusty fossil]

Me: Let's play with this fuse
Fuse: Pings off the floor
Me: I surely know where my other fuses are!
Me: Doesn't

[late fulcrum]

Me: Let's pull this fuse
Fuse: Nope. I'm too small.
Me: Where's my fuse puller?
Me: actually finds fuse puller
Fuse puller: I'm missing one of my hooks and don't work.
Fuse: Ha-ha!

[lusty fossil]

lololol

I did end up finding the fuses. They were in the box they were supposed to be in, just using camouflage.

[late fulcrum]

I have one device that takes British Standard fuses, which are hard to find in my country. I'm worried I'll lose this little bag of spares.

Granted, I can buy fuses from the UK for just a few pounds, but carriage is dozens of pounds.

[lusty fossil]

yeah especially difficult now. Your package would probably wait for a while on a dock, carried by some poor truck (or would it be lorrie) driver who hasn't had a bathroom break in a week.

[late fulcrum]

I had one package arrive in NY and disappear in August. After a few weeks, I filed a search for it. I got updates every month, and just today, a note admitting that they were unable to find it and giving up.

[lusty fossil]

ouch

[wanton thistle]

wow, so Im trying to move from Autocad to fusion 360...and its incredibly frustrating to use. Im trying to give it a chance, and I'll admit Im learning as I go..but some things in fusion arent intuitive at all.

[late fulcrum]

Fusion took me a while until I realized it's basically parametric, but for some reason pretending not to be.

[stoic mesa]

I came to Fusion after trying Creo Parametric, which was tough. After that, Fusion was easy

[blissful roost]

Very nice. 😁

[wooden schooner]

QC 1 million?

[silver shale]

Anyone know a good Android phone that can be easily rooted (or even have the OS swapped)? Apple keeps using its DNS on cellular to bypass PiHole.

[vagrant sonnet]

Does it need to support US cell networks?

[silver shale]

yes

[fading hare]

Are you looking to switch your main phone?

Or just for a dev device?

[silver shale]

yes

[pearl vigil]

OnePlus phones not only come unlocked bootloader (Or if locked by a carrier, have a method to being unlocked) but also ship with open kernel source allowing excellent support for alternative operating systems

The oneplus 6 is a popular and inexpensive choice, but the 8 many are waiting for

[umbral phoenix]

@silver shale does turning off Wi-Fi Assist keep it from using cellular DNS when on Wi-Fi?

[silver shale]

that may be it, not sure if that has been disabled

it is as easy for iOS to change the DNS server from 192.168.0.2 to 1 or ignoring wifi when looking up Apple domains.

[umbral phoenix]

(Wi-Fi Assist is way at the bottom of cellular settings, probably on by default)

[fading hare]

I really like the Google Pixel line. My favorite so far is the 4a. It sips battery, and that's super important to me.

[wooden schooner]

It does seem good that the gatekeepers of the app marketplaces have financial incentive to pressure app makers to use few system resources (because they also manufacture the phones that use those marketplaces and better battery life helps the phones sell). A rare case where vertical integration has some consumer benefit that doesn't obviously coincide with an overriding public concern (monopoly = eventual abuse).

[silver shale]

huh forgot about the OnePlus phones, they seem solid

[fading hare]

my stepson has had them for a while and really likes them

[quartz wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914164612168056882/921523622722551938/energy8.png

Did some art

[pearl vigil]

I bought a oneplus 6t to run postmarket OS on, the hardware is really nice, you can get them for $100 like new, and I mean, it flies through opening GIMP and whatever. No hardware video decoding rn but someone is working on that as we speak, and I made the mistake of getting the 6T not the 6 so I cant use my speaker with postmarket

Honestly linux for mobile has been a much better experience than I anticipated, its very close to being my daily driver

[lusty fossil]

Does anyone else ever drive to the store and then just sit in their car for a few minutes?

It's cold outside

[tardy badger]

Often

[blissful roost]

Never.. no car. 😐

[late fulcrum]

I came to Fusion from OpenSCAD, so I had useful familiarity with parametric designing.

[blissful roost]

I did have a bicycle, but some [expletive deleted] stole it.

[tardy badger]

[blissful roost]

There's obviously a selection, but you stole the worst bike there... With a flat tire.

Dumb###

[lusty fossil]

Is SolidWorks parametric to your knowledge? It's what we used in school

[tardy badger]

Yay… my wife Tested positive for RSV 🙃

Darn people sending their kids to school sick..

[lusty fossil]

A coworker of mine has to use a leaf blower regularly and they don't provide proper PPE. He's just waiting until he gets valley fever and a 3-4 month paid vacation

Now he could buy a respirator but he doesn't.

[stoic mesa]

RSV?

[tardy badger]

Yeah RSV

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/index.html

[stoic mesa]

oh, thanks; I forgot all these abbreviations

get well!

[tardy badger]

I’ve had it very mildly but my kids and wife have been hit pretty hard

My wife also found out she has asthma today

I’m putting my shop in vacation mode until the 1st of the year

Just to make sure I don’t send it in the mail

[stoic mesa]

RSV usually only lasts a week or so?

[wooden schooner]

Anyone have thoughts on Cedar EDA? https://cedar-eda.com/

It caught my attention that they claim to be the first fully differentiable EDA tool

[tardy badger]

Yeah, but it’s just a good precaution

Gives me time too to restock things

As I have LiPo power pack to build, Cast-Away, Bread 2040

[stoic mesa]

how are your sales of castaway?

[tardy badger]

Well, they sold all 15 of the first batch

I have more coming, just working through a custom order that is being unruly

[terse estuary]

Yes, Solidworks is parametric. If you have features like sketches and the ability to constrain geometry based on other geometry that is generally parametric modelling. The opposite would be direct modelling, which is generally more like sculpting with clay.

[lusty fossil]

Ahhh ok. I guess I've only ever done parametric. I've seen people do the sculpting method and it just seems so....imprecise might be the right word?

[terse estuary]

Well they just have different use cases really, sculpting is a lot better when you're trying to create 3D models for say a video game or movie

IMO precision wouldn't matter in those kinds of cases, it'd be more whether it looks right or not

[lusty fossil]

Yeah that was my read on it too.

I never need to make artwork

[terse estuary]

Same here. Everything I design is very functional so Solidworks or Autodesk Inventor are just fine for that. There are some programs that kind of mix the two approaches though I don't have experience with them. Modelling curvilinear stuff, like for a computer mouse shell, a turbine blade, or a car body would be kinda hard so you can do surface modelling where you specify points to shape the surface

I think most professional parametric modelling programs can do that too, it's just an approach i've never needed to use for anything I've done

[late fulcrum]

Weirdly, I haven't used Solidworks, even though I used to do contract work for Dassault Systems.

[lusty fossil]

Nice

SW is pretty good. F360 is close enough and combined with EDA pushes it just over the edge

[wooden schooner]

Requesting sanity check:

I have four LED bulbs, and one of them is hooked up to this remote-control dimmer:
https://myselectsmart.com/ge-myselectsmart-wireless-remote-dimming-lighting-control
The dimmer's product description says it works with LED bulbs, but in reality the dimming performance is not great -- the minimum setting is too high to see much effect in the lowish-Watt bulb it's currently controlling.
I'm thinking to hook all four bulbs up to that one dimmer. The theory is, that will both improve the above dimming issue and allow me to control the room light level more uniformly (the bulbs are at different corners of the room).
I don't know of any reason this wouldn't work. Any cautions or reality checks I should consider before proceeding?

[fading hare]

What's the wattage of the bulbs, combined? Looks like that badboy will do 300W all by hisself

The more important question is: Strawberry, Mango, or Pineapple? No, it's not for a pizza.

[wooden schooner]

If total power is the only consideration, then I'm good (or will choose subsets so that I'm good).

[fading hare]

yeah, I think you're good!

@wooden schooner be a tie breaker. Ed voted for everything.

I can't open them all at the same time

[wooden schooner]

computing witty response...

timed out.

pineapples burn my tongue though

voted

[fading hare]

watches the wheel spin, and like always, stop at BANKRUPT

what is this, an episode of game grumps?

thank you for the tie breaker

Pineapple isn't burning my tongue, per se.

[crystal ore]

I would have voted for mango myself, but I needed to create all the icons for everyone, heh heh.

[wooden schooner]

https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/157195/why-do-some-lamps-have-different-power-ratings-for-different-kinds-of-bulbs

based on the explanation there, I think that the dimmer's "300W max incandescent, 100W max LED" rating can be taken to mean "can output 300W, but don't use it with a > 100W bulb." I think using it with three 100W bulbs should be ok?

oh, yes, I am using LEDs. But see that site where they talk about the reasons for the different ratings due to the different heat dissipation characteristics of the different bulb technologies

[wary herald]

I think that they should take the "Da Share Zone" stickers off the site.

I know children that visit the site frequently, and I and the parents I know would not be happy with them on there

No they're offensive

Happier

Some are good

but most not

[fading hare]

So, the F word is worse than money laundering schemes? Check.

[wary herald]

Well.....

BBL - bed time

[fading hare]

😄

[wary herald]

LOL

[wary herald]

Nooo....

But I have crypto and NFTs, and don't consider them schemes

Hehe

Yeah, it hurts

but really, bed

[wooden schooner]

aight.

[fading hare]

OK. I wiped my transgressions away. I am now clean, and forgiven.

dances a little jig and goes off to annoy some other peoples

[wooden schooner]

Just tried the "ring of floss" method from here
https://www.deardoctor.com/inside-the-magazine/issue-10/flossing/
it shows promise!

[silver shale]

words are words imo, just how they are used

[blissful roost]

So tiny and cute. 🥰

[tardy badger]

Minisforum?

Or one of those other offbrand NUC?

[blissful roost]

Nah, it's a NUC.

[tardy badger]

Nice

i7?

[blissful roost]

I'll assume that means an i3.

4GB RAM and a 240GB SSD.

[tardy badger]

Yeah seems like it

[blissful roost]

My dad asked if I can install something Linux on there.

Probably Mint Mate.

[tardy badger]

Probably yeah

Probably could get Ubuntu 18

[wooden schooner]

Lol is that like yerba mate

Great name

[blissful roost]

I'm still waiting to install Innit, Mate.

[hasty cave]

oh neat that's a nuc8 isn't it?

I've got a 6th gen running eve-ng that's a lot of fun to play with 😁

[blissful roost]

:)

I'm just going to install an OS and throw it back.
Shame...

[hasty cave]

marginally less fun 😅

[manic tide]

I've possibly never seen a tower server before, what's this little selector does on it?

[late fulcrum]

There's always this tower server https://www.sparkfun.com/news/2561

[wooden schooner]

Darn, looks like there isn't enough load on the dimmer to be able to really dim. When I have 5 bulbs connected, it dims; but when I have only 3 bulbs connected, it hardly does anything. I guess I'll have to buy a dimmer that can go lower, but then I lose the wireless switch 😕

but it's not the end of the world. The switch is currently on a command strip, so I can move it to another corner and get a wired dimmer for there that won't take up too much space, and mount it on the wall next to the switch.

[silver shale]

saw your post on that

[wooden schooner]

I would be so scared of the giant PSU if I were that little arduino

[tardy badger]

OH NO! Radio Shack is going blockchain 😭

[blissful roost]

I thought they already went buh-bye...

[lusty fossil]

They're limping along

I wish the internet would gamestop them. They used to have useful stuff

[blissful roost]

We lost Maplin a while ago, which was pretty much the same.

Everything was overpriced and a lot of the time they had stock issues.

[wooden schooner]

Going blockchain seems like a good first step to making this likely to happen

Albeit very questionable on pretty much every other basis

[lusty fossil]

That's fair.

[fading hare]

I haven't seen a Radioshack in years.

[lusty fossil]

They are quite rare, but they exist

[hasty wedge]

linux

I am using ubuntu on my daily driver

ubuntu 20.04 on a Framework laptop

[silver shale]

nice

[hasty wedge]

core i7-1165G7 and 16GB RAM

enough to run ubuntu and a Windows Server 2019 VM

[silver shale]

still have 2010-2011 era Xeons running everything

[hasty wedge]

I am also having a Xeon as my home server

E3-1230 v2

It's so nice to have ECC

[silver shale]

definitely

[fading hare]

Workstation.

[hasty wedge]

my workstation is running Windows unfortunately

Ryzen 5 3600

[silver shale]

got windows on here just for gaming

[hasty wedge]

RX6900XT reference model

and 64GB of DDR4-3000 RAM

[silver shale]

E5-2643, RX480 and 4x4GB RDIMM

early Qimonda DDR3 so it is clocked at 1066

[shadow siren]

Ryzen 3600x 64GB 3600 for windows box, 3600 32GB for linux box

[hasty wedge]

also

here's my fetch

[fading hare]

this is my laptop

[hasty wedge]

my desktop is basically Windows style

[hasty wedge]

KDE Neon

ohhhhh

I tried it before

[shadow siren]

I have used KDE since V1

[hasty wedge]

But it does not supports separate scaling on two different displays

they claim that "KDE's X11 does not support that"

[shadow siren]

yes it does

[hasty wedge]

wait it does?

how?

with a GUI or some hacky CMD tricks

[shadow siren]

through the gui you can set each monitor to what you want

[silver shale]

ZBook fetch

[hasty wedge]

can you show me?

I love that fact that my laptop's host is just

"Laptop AB"

[hasty wedge]

That's global scale

[shadow siren]

no you can set each monitor

[hasty wedge]

I want 100% on my external display and 150% on built-in

[shadow siren]

you can also override it with xrandr

[hasty wedge]

so it needs a CMD hack

[shadow siren]

xrandr is what it actually does it just hides it from you with a gui

[hasty wedge]

That's what I want

I don't care what's going on underneath

If it get's the job done, it's good

KDE Neon is such a good distro

It's just

so close

I tried it, I love it, but I can't scale my display easily

[shadow siren]

From what I have just read it's not a per KDE problem but a fundamental issue with X11, most solutions I saw just used xrandr to tweak things

since I have 3 1080p on this machine I don't worry about it.

[fading hare]

Switch to Wayland. 😉

It's like five million times faster anyway.

and much smoother

[hasty wedge]

I am using Wayland on ubuntu

[shadow siren]

for Wayland this is what I consider important
Does Wayland work with Nvidia?
NVIDIA Confirms Sway Wayland Compositor Works Fine With Their New GBM Driver Support

[wooden schooner]

Ok, I think this is the finished product. A single plug-in dimmer controls 3 lamps. The remote-control on/off switch controls 4 light bulb socket extensions, as follows:

(RC) = remote-control Edison socket switch
v or ∧ = Edison base splitter
(w) = warm light
(c) = cool light

 Lamp 1        Lamp 2              Lamp 3 (two-socket column lamp)

                                      (w)     (RC)
 (w) (c)                               |       ∧ 
(RC) (RC)                           (w)|    (c) |
   \ /           (w)                 | |        |
    v             |                   v        (c)
    |             |                  (RC)   
  +-+-+         +-+-+               +------------+
  |   |         |   |               |            |

All the bulb accessories, including the ridiculous-looking flexible-body Edison extension in Lamp 3, are underneath the shade. So, in effect, what I have is a set of lamps throughout the room that are dimmable and color temperature selectable. Ahh. 🍹

[fading hare]

All y'all with your silly moons on your avatars. It's only 03:00 here!

[tardy badger]

Progress on the TreeHouse Terminal

[tardy badger]

has anyone had issues where they can't use ESP tool on their ESP32 because it says no serial data?

I have my treehouse terminal running CircuitPython but i'm trying to put another build on it and ESP tool doesn't seem to be able to connect to the device.

ESP forums say bad USB cable but I can see circuitpython REPL just fine and use the REPL just fine.

[crisp bane]

Interesting list. Mine is much the same with a lot of strange ones mixed in. I started on an IBM 360 in 1970 and worked my way up. It's been an interesting ride. I prefer NodeJS for the RPi and other small devices but Adafruit seems to push Python. Python is nice but I never cared for it.

[tardy badger]

weird, i plugged in and grabbed the mac of another ESP32-S2 board and that worked, plugged treehouse terminal in and it worked again

[floral ridge]

https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0x2953399124f0cbb46d2cbacd8a89cf0599974963/5060750135300600004475696170364909030302600678059834890489815820069173723137/

[umbral phoenix]

@floral ridge Please do not cross-post on more than one channel. Also see my reply about Advertising Policy.

[wanton thistle]

I have a fitted bed sheet cover. It has a rip on one side. I washed it. Any ideas what I can do with it? I have too many rags to count already. Maybe it worth sewing it? Or can I donate to someplace?

[umbral phoenix]

If it's not worth repaitring, you can donate textiles for recycling, websearch for local drop-offs

[fading hare]

I love Python. Node is a bit of a space hog, though with it's unwieldy package manager. I guess you could add a minifier and tree walker to make one file somewhere between deploying it to the Pi or similar.

[crisp bane]

I like JavaScript because it's multi threaded.

[fading hare]

Not exactly, right? But, you can use worker threads, or whatever. It has a thread pool that it uses internally, but that doesn't really make it multi-threaded in the true sense of the word.

[wooden schooner]

Meaning in the sense of being able to make system calls?

[fading hare]

More like the way it handles async internally, because it's essentially non-blocking I/O, right

[wooden schooner]

Thanks for explaining - I don't know js

Are you saying that there is no thread abstraction in js, even though the runtime uses threads under the hood to implement async programming?

[fading hare]

there is no thread management, at all, it's all under the hood, unless you use something like worker threads or similar.

basically it'll spin a synchronous call in an internal thread while it continues to accept events

[wooden schooner]

Is the notion of a worker thread actually part of the js language or is it an argument to the VM?

[fading hare]

it's in the VM

I think it was introduced in Node 12

[wooden schooner]

👍 thx

[fading hare]

So, if you're coming from Java or C# or something where you have to manage threads even for basic operations, that's not a thing in Node.js.

[wooden schooner]

what is the physical mechanism by which resistors give off heat? and/or how much physics would I have to know to understand the simplest basically-correct explanation?

[tardy badger]

Well, heat is simply energy. And energy in Watts is Voltage * Current. No system is perfect so resistors can handle so much power or watts give the rating specified. Meaning within normal operations, the act of limiting current causes some power to be lost through heat.

It’s essentially a thermal transfer of energy

Due to conservation of energy. Because a supply has so much potential, to have the same amount of energy entering the system as leaving, some has to be lost to heat

[wooden schooner]

I agree with the above, "the energy must go somewhere." But I'm looking for mechanism

I suspect it might require quantum and/or stat mech, neither of which I know, but would be interested in useful terms to google

oh maybe it's literally this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_radiation

[tardy badger]

On the atomic level, it comes down to an interaction of electrons which the resistors material causes some to be shed

[wooden schooner]

what gets shed?

electrons?

[tardy badger]

The electrons

[wooden schooner]

how does charge not accumulate then?

[tardy badger]

Well, it’s a single layer

There is some capacitance and inductance but it is very small

But the resistors material acts like a bad wire essentially

[wooden schooner]

so the movement of electrons from one layer of material to another within the resistor creates heat?

[tardy badger]

Due to its inability to pass current efficiently, it sheds electrons in the form of heat

So resistors just have some sort of film, either metal or carbon film. It’s generally a single layer.

[wooden schooner]

how does shedding electrons produce heat?

[tardy badger]

Think of the resistor like replacing a piece of wire with a piece of pencil lead.

[wooden schooner]

that doesn't change anything for me

(I don't know anything about pencil lead)

[tardy badger]

It’s mostly carbon and adhesive

So it’s in a way like a wire made out of carbon and adhesive

[wooden schooner]

so is there a chemical bond being broken when current flows through?

[tardy badger]

Because it’s not a copper wire for instance, it is not electrically conductive

Due to its atomic properties

The way it’s atom is constructed

Applying current to the carbon molecules in the lead causes an excitement

This moves electrons to different energy levels or valence orbits

If enough energy is applied, yes electrons are shed.

But eventually the electrons have to move down energy levels or to different orbits

I’m doing so, they release energy

This is the heat you feel on a resistor or any component really

[wooden schooner]

that all makes sense, from the level of trying to remember what I learned in chemistry class

I think my problem now is that I don't know what heat is 😆

[tardy badger]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, we don’t really know what or where energy comes from in the first place

We just know how to describe it

[wooden schooner]

what's confusing to me most proximally is that afaik, thermodynamics doesn't apply to a single atom, it applies to large ensembles

so while the energy level stuff seems plausible for a single atom, I don't understand how that leads to transfer of thermal energy in the aggregate

[tardy badger]

The way heat would be described in chemistry is a change in energy level. Decreases in energy indicates cooling, increases in energy usually means heat is produced.

[wooden schooner]

I thought "energy level" meant "eigenvalue of some quantum-mechanical operator"

[tardy badger]

Well, imagine millions of of carbon electrons constantly moving up and down valence levels

If say one atom of carbon with say 1fA (femto-ampere) produced 1°C of change on a 1pm^2 (square pico-meter), imagine 2 million carbon atoms doing that simultaneously

[wooden schooner]

how does a single atom have a temperature?

or are you saying consider a single atom's contribution to an ensemble's temperature

[tardy badger]

Yes

[wooden schooner]

ok sure

now I just need to understand how a single atom contributes to the temperature :p

[tardy badger]

Because each atom individually is changing energy levels of its electrons when handling current

So cumulatively as it passes from one carbon atom to the next, each is producing a similar change

[wooden schooner]

what definition of temperature are you using?

[tardy badger]

But I’m the smallest fraction of a second imaginable over the duration that the current is sustained

Chemistry

[wooden schooner]

is it the kinetic theory approach described in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature ?

[tardy badger]

Essentially

[wooden schooner]

thanks for your patience here

I think what I'm seeing is that I would need to know more thermo before I could understand a satisfying answer to my question

[tardy badger]

Probably, but that’s okay

Learning is a journey

[crystal ore]

If it helps your mental image, you could consider current as the electrons flowing through the resistor. But they don't have a clear path, so they flow by bumping into the atoms along the way. Each time they do, the atoms rebound and wiggle around a bit more inside the material, and that random vibration is heat.

[lusty fossil]

That's the ELI5 I was given in chem

I wasn't five but it was still useful

[wooden schooner]

I see how it's kinetic energy, but I don't know the information theoretic glue that makes it thermal energy

[crystal ore]

It turns into thermal energy when you have a situation where the atoms continually exchange energy with each other instead of just keeping their own. In such a situation, all of the different vibrations come to equilibrium with a particular average energy, and we call that the temperature. (I'm hand-waving a lot there...)

[wooden schooner]

Oh hm. I guess in the information theoretic framework, you would ask what the current does to a distribution on microstates of system whose microstate is not fully known

Where "does" above refers to integrating some kind of dynamical system

[wooden schooner]

I think what you're saying here is the equipartition theorem

[crystal ore]

Yes. Didn't want to get too technical.

[wooden schooner]

I think it's a chapter in my information theory textbook (Cover & Thomas), which while not near the top of my enormous backlog, is higher up than my stat mech textbook, which currently doesn't exist

[wooden schooner]

This is really helpful though. I think it's the answer I didn't know how to ask for - now I know where to look. Thanks 🙏

[dusty citrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_mobility

Basically the electron never leaves the light switch contacts.

It's not electrons that are streaming from the power company to your house.

drift velocity is very very slow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_velocity

something affects something at a distance - near the speed of Light. As when your city has power restored after a blackout, and viewed from (orbital) space.

But it's not electrons; the electrons stay on the premises of the power company's power plant.

veritasium tried to say something about this very recently. (is a YT video host)

@wooden schooner Feynman Lectures are available online.

(the three volume book series)

[pallid summit]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenAWZJ2_sK9DY3Ppvryx6vfmaQktuhA_-asAbtjMq7Oa4VzQ/viewform

[orchid zephyr]

Bed adhesion is a joke

[hard barn]

Oddly enough I was printing a kunai and the bed adhesion was so strong even though it was very dusty. What went wrong was the brass part that connects to the feeder unscrewed itself.

[umbral phoenix]

pretty sketchy when a device won’t factory reset unless it’s connected to the Internet

[tardy badger]

The other day when talking to a professor about an assistantship I was offered, I learned that FreeEDA is supposed to be pronounced Freeda (like the name)

https://github.com/FOSSEE/FreeEDA

Because it was developed originally by an NC State professor

[real falcon]

not as bad as car that doesnt start when server is down

(telsa)

[wooden schooner]

That is too far.

Lack of physical distance notwithstanding.

[wanton thistle]

Im late to the party but wide brim gang checking in. Also elmers glue sticks help a ton

and literally do yourself a favor and get a $2 piece of glass from HD lol. It worked for me pretty well.

[cinder crown]

https://www.hackster.io/news/off-grid-wireless-communication-with-the-armachat-762b1cc966e5#:~:text=ARMACHAT lets you learn how,graphics on the LCD screen.&text=The impressive thing with this,direct line-of-sight.

[fading hare]

aah

[cinder crown]

so that device is like 30$ in parts

[fading hare]

you really should put a bbq10keyboard on there instead of those buttons, ahaha

but, that's cool

[cinder crown]

and they charge $150 for the device

and its crap

also, theres no repeater for lorawan that you can sell

[fading hare]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4818

this is only $67, from Adafruit.

[cinder crown]

that screen draws 2-3 times as much power as the whole device

and it's terribly breakable compared to an easy char lcd

[fading hare]

how do we not break screens?

Cases!

[cinder crown]

ribbon cable also no bueno

[fading hare]

It's a magical thing that was invented after too many people dropped their phones.

Why no ribbon?

[cinder crown]

no, the focus for this device is large scale post EMP world

[fading hare]

the screen doesn't draw nearly as much as the LoRa radio.

[cinder crown]

I wanna be able to maintain comms over a town

[fading hare]

Yeah, I get it.

[cinder crown]

I dont see how I buy a compatible repeater

[fading hare]

Well. For one. Don't listen to whatever the FCC is telling you.

[cinder crown]

and I doubt they implement OLSR or the 802.11 anti-jam stuff

huh?

[fading hare]

What band did you go with?

[cinder crown]

915 mhz

[fading hare]

Why?

Are you in the US?

[cinder crown]

decent throughput to range ratio

yes

[fading hare]

Like I said, don't listen to what the FCC tells you.

Go with 433 instead.

[cinder crown]

im not sure what you mean by that

if i recall correctly 433 can take seconds to send

[fading hare]

no it doesn't

915 is the approved band for the US, 433 is EU, so, stands to reason, not too many folk over here that can just willy-nilly try to decode your 433 signals, seeing as they all have 915 hardware

I went with this one: https://store.rakwireless.com/products/rak2245-pi-hat?variant=39942878888134

it's a nice compromise on price and coverage.

[cinder crown]

really for testing reasons, Im gonna stick to legal bands my dude

[fading hare]

as you say ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean sigil]

Please don’t advise people to violate laws in their countries.

[cinder crown]

my antenna costs 1/6 of that

the point is to drive down the cost my dude

I wanna let a couple people in each town in the US be able to buy a set of these for near to cost

that way when it hits the fan, we can still communicate like humans and people dont devolve to eating people

[fading hare]

Well, I didn't. You need to be a licensed operator to use 433MHz. Since it's in the amateur radio band.

It's reserved for shipping container tracking.

[cinder crown]

also, and this is big, the FCC would slam me for not having a ham license

[fading hare]

yes, get a ham license

[cinder crown]

§ 15.240 Operation in the band 433.5– 434.5 MHz.
< (a) Operation under the provisions of this section is restricted to devices that use radio frequency energy to identify the contents of commercial shipping containers. Operations must be limited to commercial and industrial areas such as ports, rail terminals and warehouses.

no, its not allowed

they would just SLAM me with fines

id be liable for disruption

[fading hare]

but, they wouldn't really "slam" you... they let people use GMRS without checking anybody's license... or fining them... I still paid the $70 or whatever, but, it's a pretty pointless license

[fading hare]

yup

[cinder crown]

the only reason id look at ham is if I could find a decent backup antenna that runs actual HF for under $20 or so

[fading hare]

I am aware. But, we were talking grid-down scenarios, right?

[cinder crown]

we are sure, but i gotta sell them while the laws are in place

[fading hare]

You think the FCC is gonna roll up on your compound and demand you pay their fines?

You can still sell them just fine. Adafruit has sold me a bunch of 433MHz LoRas.

It's on the operator to abide by the regulations.

[cinder crown]

I live near military installations, i doubt id get away with mucking about in bands i shouldnt be at the tests I wanna run

[fading hare]

433 has almost double the range of 915 though.

And, if you are using it indoors, with smaller antennas, there's very little chance anybody is going to pick it up.

I mean, you run it with a tiny wire antenna, and range will be meters, not kms

[cinder crown]

the RYLR896 I use have KM for range

[fading hare]

Nice. Have you tested it?

[cinder crown]

yea a bit

[fading hare]

Also, what kind of antennas are you putting on the communicators?

[cinder crown]

works around my neighborhood

https://www.amazon.com/RYLR896-Module-SX1276-Antenna-Command/dp/B07NB3BK5H/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3B3IAOZDSQWS3&keywords=rylr896&qid=1640054416&sprefix=rylr896%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-1

[fading hare]

how much is just the chip?

[cinder crown]

idk

i need that lol

so i got 10 of them

[fading hare]

yeah

I use these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3232

and these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/4075

@night crescent do you have an FCC license to manufacture the 433MHz LoRa wings and bonnets?

Or is the FCC license only on the chip itself, so adding it to a board doesn't require the license?

I'm now confused, and slightly worried. 🙂

[cinder crown]

whats the adafruit call sign?

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp

[lusty fossil]

I bet it's on the up and up. It would be uncharacteristically sloppy for them not to get something sorted before selling a board

[fading hare]

For sure.

That's why I was curious if they even needed a license.

[cinder crown]

it would blow my mind if they didnt just use the license of the chip

like rpi and broadcom / qualcomm

[late fulcrum]

Chips aren't licensed. Operators are licensed, and assemblies are certified.

[fading hare]

Thank you!

[cinder crown]

chips are 100% licensed

broadcom gets a vig for allowing rpi to use their binaries

there was that dispute not too long ago in the rpi world

[late fulcrum]

I thought we were talking about RF emission licenses, not IP.

[cinder crown]

over the firmware in 3bs

i mean, its both right?

[fading hare]

In this case, no. We're talking about the 433 LoRa chips.

Anyway. Apologies for going down this entire tangent.

[lusty fossil]

There's a small chance that at my newish job I'm only accruing 1 hour of PTO per month

I am thinking to myself that that can't be right, but California doesn't actually have PTO requirements for jobs.

[fading hare]

How much does one normally accrue? Like, on average?

[lusty fossil]

last job was 24 hours per month

so you got just under 2 weeks a year. And that went up with tenure

[fading hare]

I don't think I've worked anywhere in the last 15 years that didn't have a flexible vacation policy. Then again, I am old.

[lusty fossil]

If it really is 1 hour per month I'm gonna start looking for a new job

[fading hare]

yeah, that's terrible

[lusty fossil]

I'm the only one who knows how to do a bunch of stuff so they'd be in trouble

[fading hare]

you sure it was PTO and not personal time?

some companies measure personal time outside of PTO

[lusty fossil]

I just have a number on my paystub but no units

[fading hare]

ah

[lusty fossil]

So it's either 1 hour per month or one day

[fading hare]

maybe it's one day

[lusty fossil]

I'm fine with 1 day, that's pretty standard at my level. But one hour would be insulting

[fading hare]

because if it was one hour that would be a cruel joke hahahah

[lusty fossil]

I could see 1 hour of sick time per month, this is america after all

[fading hare]

like, you work for us for a year, and we'll give you 12 hours to rest! LOLJK we will be hunting you during those 12 hours.

[lusty fossil]

my goal here is to enmesh myself into so many systems that I'm irreplaceable and then ask for a comfortably 5 figure raise

[lusty fossil]

Doesn't count the half dozen federal holidays

[fading hare]

that's the old way of having job security, I am not sure that's a viable option these days

[lusty fossil]

it's semi viable

I'd be hard to replace now, let alone when I've done more

I don't, and won't, have to worry about a family so I'm just supporting myself

[fading hare]

I think it's a rather bleak look on life to only work against being replaced.

[late fulcrum]

I'd be hard to replace, we're already short-staffed, and I'm billable on five different projects and several upcoming ones. And I could literally have a new job tomorrow if I wanted. But when I ask for a raise, nada.

[fading hare]

I guess I've been lucky, or just worked longer, because that's not really where I'm at. If I get fired, I'll get a new job. Quick.

And, usually I don't get raises, yeah, that's a thing.

Only way to get a raise in the US is to get a new job.

[lusty fossil]

jobs are thin in my field where I live, so I kinda have to make this work. I have no desire to move.

[fading hare]

for sure

[wooden schooner]

can someone help me with this back-of-envelope calculation: "Is it fine to plug in a monitor, laser printer, and laptop charger into a single outlet via a power strip?" Internet search says a laser printer draws 300-550W while it's printing, and 10W while idle. Monitor 20-100W. I assume the laptop charger draws about 65W. So total ~715W while printing. Assuming I get a power strip that's rated for that much, how can I figure out whether the outlet will be able to deliver that much?

[fading hare]

I wasn't saying you should take it for granted or slack off, I more meant that if you have the skills, why would they replace you?

[fading hare]

By plugging it all in and running all the things at the same time. Uh. How old is the wiring in your abode?

[wooden schooner]

it's not my abode actually it's my parents

and more to the point, I don't know :p

[fading hare]

if the wiring is old, then you might need to worry

but, generally, I think that should be fine

[wooden schooner]

I assume if it's not able to handle that, then the breaker would trip

would certainly hope there is at least safety

[lusty fossil]

Only reason I can think of is I tumble the owner to my radically different world view from his. Fortunately I don't discuss that kind of thing at work.

[fading hare]

I've got a 3D printer, 2 big honking computers, a workbench with a bunch of electronic equipment and programmable power supply, and a fan that runs 24/7 in the summer, and a sit/stand desk, a monitor, and a bunch of other crap in this one room, off of two different wall outlets, and I haven't set anything on fire just yet.

[fading hare]

Yeah, I never learn to not discuss politics with Americans. In my heart of hearts there's still a little smidgen of hope that one day, finally, an American could be OK with someone else having a different opinion and still be able to talk to that person.

[lusty fossil]

I just find it more professional, and easier, to leave that outside the workplace. YMMV though

[fading hare]

Oh, I never discuss politics at work.

[lusty fossil]

Also a lot of people have ill informed, yet passionately held, opinions and I don't relish correcting people all day.

[wooden schooner]

apparently it's from 1980. Not too old right?

[lusty fossil]

Insulation could break down in that time I guess but I'd think the copper would be fine. Not an electrician though

big disclaimer there, I am super far from an electrician.

[fading hare]

Uh. I mean, it could be. I would seriously check the fuse that's for the circuit of the room you're in, but, as far as things go, all you're doing is running a small microwave, technically, as far as wattage goes. How many amps, though?

Neither am I an electrician, yo.

[wooden schooner]

715W / 120V = 6A

[fading hare]

But, I know enough to not set myself, or my house, or my neighbors, on fire.

[lusty fossil]

somehow this lidocaine patch is actually helping with the knots in my back, and not just the pain. Neat

[fading hare]

That's math. Like the wizards use. Us regular folks just wiggle a calculator at the fuse box and sprinkle some hopes and dreams.

[wooden schooner]

from what I've seen in quick googles, this seems well within the range

[fading hare]

you should be absolutely fine

[fading hare]

I don't even try to correct people. I just express what I think and they get upset because I have a firm opinion about something they like/dislike. So, then the conversation usually ends with me feeling sorry for them, and switching topics.

I am also Swedish, and we are not known for our tact in the religion/politics department.

[lusty fossil]

interesting, my last boss was swedish and he was the opposite.

but maybe he was more Americanized

well one of my bosses. Part of the reason I left that job was I had 3 or 4 depending on who you talked to

[fading hare]

Like I said, in a professional setting I would never discuss politics. I try to not do it here, because I like this place, and I don't want Lady Ada to come to my house and punch me in the face with a really large Cherry MX button.

[lusty fossil]

Yeah even this oblique reference to politics is more than I'd normally do here but I'm in a weird mood

[fading hare]

I've had jobs where there were too many bosses, for sure.

[lusty fossil]

yeah it's a pain.

I'm like....set a meeting and decide between yourselves what you want me to do!

[fading hare]

At one point I ended up calling them all (silent partners and whatnot) into the CEO's office and I scolded them like children. They shuffled about and agreed that they would talk to each other before assigning tasks that were of the HIGHEST priority and then complain that their work wasn't completed before the previous HIGHEST status assignment.

[lusty fossil]

"Hey boss, here's that thing you wanted desperately" "OK cool, I'll look at it next week"

[fading hare]

Or that, classic.

I am also in a weird mood today. Someone should come slap me around with an old trout at some point.

[late fulcrum]

I just told them "you set the priority or I will." They exchanged a bunch of worried looks and got their act together.

[wooden schooner]

that's not even confrontational

Boss: "Do thing Y, stat!!"
Employee: "Are you asking me to drop thing X (which you also said should be stat) to do thing Y?"

[late fulcrum]

I also got pretty good traction with "you fix the water fountain or I will."

[lusty fossil]

there's a whole class of people who thinks managing people is just demanding results and punishing failure. These people tend to do very well in their careers, unfortunately. Peter principle is strong.

[wooden schooner]

if the boss is constantly asking you to switch tasks, they are probably delusional as that is both not a recipe for productivity and not a recipe for a happy employee/team. But I'd guess that when asked that question, they would probably try to actually get a consistent picture of the answer in their own mind, and that would lead to a natural smoothing of tasks

[late fulcrum]

I had one like that, they had all kinds of excuses "I'm a New Yorker", "I got brain damage from Lyme disease", etc. He no longer works there.

[wooden schooner]

my understanding is that these people's reputations are supposed to get back to them. It does unfortunately seem to sometimes take a surprisingly long time...

[wooden schooner]

you asked your boss to fix a water fountain?

[lusty fossil]

it often never does, or they move companies. Some of them have no self awareness or are legit sociopaths.

[wooden schooner]

were you working at a water fountain manufacturer?

[late fulcrum]

One particularly obnoxious person actually gave me as a reference once. I was reasonably tactful, but crystal clear.

[wooden schooner]

"You'll be lucky to get them to work for you!"

[late fulcrum]

I asked my boss to arrange to have the water fountain fixed, and if not, I'd whip out my tools and do it myself.

He told me that under no circumstances was I to work on the water fountain. I gave him two weeks, it still wasn't fixed, so I did (bent fan blade kept the fan from turning, easy fix).

[wooden schooner]

I'd expect the boss to not care, since they're not on the hook for you defying building maintenance

[fading hare]

Worked with a few "functioning" sociopaths. They excel as CEOs and in similar leadership roles.

[lusty fossil]

I guess if you have the right definition of excel

[late fulcrum]

I may not like Bill Gates, and don't think much of his technical skill, but his job was to make money for his stockholders, and at that, he did very well indeed.

[fading hare]

They're not always bad for people, the really good ones establish rules that they can follow, that helps them embrace empathy, because they want their people to be happy so that they can do good work.

But, yeah, underneath all that, they're still like: "What are you crying for?"

https://giphy.com/gifs/her-would-eCLe22tOkYfTi

[wooden schooner]

psychologizing bosses is a tricky business

[fading hare]

Now if someone would just reveal themselves to be a NixOS guru, I'd be super happy.

Come forth, o hero.

[wooden schooner]

oh, you were looking for someone on this channel who has experience with NixOS? Why didn't you just say so!

[fading hare]

Wait, that was probably not rated PG. Apologies, and deleted.

[fading hare]

You know NixOS?!

[wooden schooner]

no, just teasing

I've seen three of your pleas

hope you do find someone, of course

[fading hare]

it's such a cool way of generating ISO images, and entire development environments, but I am kind of stumped as to how you lock it down to a particular version/stable/unstable/whatever.

[wooden schooner]

it does look cool

[fading hare]

it'll even run the image as a test in qemu

it's sweet

but, black magic voodoo

for like wizards with brains

[wooden schooner]

are all the version numbers of interest not just set in a manifest file? That's what it looked like based on watching the lightning tour video

[fading hare]

I am neither a wizard nor a papaloa.

It's like you gotta pin some kind of commit hash or something, but I haven't figured out where I do that.

[wooden schooner]

ah

[fading hare]

it's kind of like Ansible meets Puppet and then they hang out with their best friends, QEMU and Mr. ISO.

But, it's all on your machine, and you can run everything right there.

Without even have NixOS installed.

Makes creating reproducible dev environments really simple. Once you have been learned in the magic, of course.

aah, channels, that's they call them

https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_channels

so that's how you pin it

get it, "pin it?"

the creators of NixOS have names that sound like they could be important NPCs in The Witcher... Eelco Dolstra and Armijn Hemel.

It's like the one maintainer of Ubuntu, I call him the pirate captain, because his name is totally bad to the bone: Leonidas S. Barbosa

[lusty fossil]

digikey is teasing me. They have the exact product I want, but it won't load the "add to cart/list" buttons!

[fading hare]

reload the page

their JavaScript is on the fritz again

[lusty fossil]

I did

[fading hare]

it sometimes happens if you open a bunch of tabs

[lusty fossil]

Does this load normally for folks? https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cui-devices/CBL-UA-P5-1/9838597?utm_adgroup=Between Series Adapter Cables&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping_Product_Cable Assemblies&utm_term=&utm_content=Between Series Adapter Cables&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8ICOBhDmARIsAEGI6o1C8TiSpwp38ijZHAH4-DtJElzPlkvJHBHTc81RfeP8-0aknQcGUAkaAudaEALw_wcB

[fading hare]

how many you need? 😉

maybe try a shift reload or whatever?

clear the cache?

[lusty fossil]

just the one. I reloaded and closed some tabs and it worked. Just bein funky

[fading hare]

yeah, I think it throttles you

probably some kind of anti-crawler stuff

[lusty fossil]

weird. I've never encountered that before

but Digikey has been acting buggy for months for me

[fading hare]

it's been happening of late, like in the last month or so

[lusty fossil]

dropping filters randomly, going to the wrong page, etc

[fading hare]

you're not the only one

BEEN THERE, DONE THAT

[lusty fossil]

I forgive them because they do such a good job normally and they have the easiest (for me) to use parametric search.

[fading hare]

it's like that one week when the Adafruit Shop gaslighted me and kept hiding the navigation buttons on search result pages. I thought I was legit going insane.

I am not sure where their search comes from, I am assuming whatever software they're using, I just see other sites model their search engines after it, like Home Depot and Lowe's do similar things with theirs. Imitation is the greatest flattery, or whatever they say.

good thing you got the page to load, $11 to ship ONE USB cable is a bit steep

oh, speaking of shipping things... I ordered some stuff from Pimoroni (like a new stupid square screen, that I'll hopefully not break, this one without touch) and selected the UPS World Saver shipping method because it was only like $5 more than whatever the 5 day shipping option was.... and I don't know, but they put rockets on that package. It went through export faster than you can say United Parcel Service, and it's going to be delivered Wednesday.

[wooden schooner]

in my previous job, the business reimbursements web portal had a bug that I wouldn't even know how to produce if I tried. If you start a new reimbursement request, and while you're filling it out, open up a previous request in a different window (e.g. for reference / to copy fields), then when you click save on the new form, it will instead clobber the old record.

[fading hare]

word, was it Oracle by any chance 😄

[wooden schooner]

actually, it was worse than clobber. The old request's ID number was kept the same, but the items were changed.

[fading hare]

a lot of programs are written like that

[wooden schooner]

so, havoc.

how would you even do that for a website though

[fading hare]

by a lot of "skilled" developers

because you feel like you know better than the users

[wooden schooner]

like you'd have to key the sessions by IP address or something

whereas it would be 100% more natural to key them by... gee, I dunno, the request ID number!?

(and the user's auth token etc.)

[burnt tendon]

Yes, but it passes the acceptance tests.

[fading hare]

if I want to open up 100 windows of this site to get my work done, why not? But, Oracle is like, YOUR ENTIRE SESSION HOLDS ONE STATE.

[wooden schooner]

wdym by acceptance tests?

[fading hare]

the CEO uploaded it to production and skimmed the website

[burnt tendon]

For one constrained workload, it works as per spec.

[wooden schooner]

ah

so "acceptance" means "bad"

[fading hare]

no, it just means that a lot of people do not write proper testing suites, at all

be it unit, integration, or end-to-end

[wooden schooner]

yeah. And sounds like this is not ordinary software testing but rather a purchase decision

[fading hare]

oh for sure

[wooden schooner]

that you're referring to above. I have no idea who made the website I'm talking about

[fading hare]

the CEO knew some guy that knew some guy that got a commission and it was all like a million dollars, so if you ever complain about this POS software, you're fired

real story, bro

I still threatened to replace that software with a very small shell script and kept my job... he laughed, and eyed me funny, but I think he liked me more than he hated me because I wasn't fired.

[wooden schooner]

brought to light by a wrongful termination suit?

oh wait that's not wrongful termination

necessarily

it's a bs reason, but not a protected class reason or whatever

[fading hare]

and I am in NC, so, employed at will

not in a union either

in 15 minutes the Winter Solstice begins!

[wooden schooner]

lengthening days... thank goodness.

[fading hare]

(in my backwaters time zone at least)

I love the darkness.

[burnt tendon]

The capybaras have been bathed in yuzu for the solstice.

[fading hare]

Then again, I am Swedish. My wife makes fun of me for being super particular about the lamps and types of bulbs we have in the house.

[burnt tendon]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20211124_13/

[wooden schooner]

ouch?

[fading hare]

I hope they bathed that capybara that's at the end of the Discourse training bot's spiel

[wooden schooner]

oh, it's a (water) bath with fruits in it, not a bath of pure fruit juice.

[fading hare]

maybe add some frankincense and myrrh as well?

[burnt tendon]

I mean, I was definitely part of a selection process where all of the options were all crap.

And I am part of some approval pipelines using an Oracle system.

🤮

[fading hare]

oh, for sure, many times in my career

the Oracle stuff is OK, as long as you treat it like what it is... an obstacle to getting paid

[burnt tendon]

Oh, in this case it's an obstacle to other people getting paid.

[fading hare]

Same same but different?

[wooden schooner]

depends how much shielding you have from the ire of the unpaid people

[burnt tendon]

Well, if they cut us off for nonpayment, I will not like the results.

[fading hare]

Still. Nobody in their right mind selected an Oracle product in the last 2 decades on purpose other than to cook their books.

[burnt tendon]

Quite true.

Like, you can use something other than Oracle, or you can hand Larry Ellison your corporate checkbook with all of the checks already signed.

[fading hare]

Why would anybody sane pay millions of dollars for a website that my nephew could write in Svelte, for I dunno, a few Fortnite gift cards and a new skateboard, and he's not even a software developer, yet?

[wooden schooner]

what's the incentive for the corrupt behavior?

[fading hare]

Unless there's an ulterior motive.

[fading hare]

Good old boys club stuff, maybe?

[wooden schooner]

personal interests of specific executives based on secrets

yeah

[burnt tendon]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/former-netflix-executive-sentenced-30-months-bribes-and-kickbacks-netflix-vendors

[wooden schooner]

I bet there were also some orgs that chose the new oracle product because they had the old oracle product

[fading hare]

Happens every day, every year, every decade, since time immemorial. Some dude getting rich by screwing someone over, or skimming from the profits of the dude above him.

[burnt tendon]

There's very little incentive for an org to actually allow that sort of bribes and kickbacks to come to trial unless it was really flagrant and obvious, so for every one of those, there's an uncomfortable number of people quietly allowed to depart with their ill gotten gains.

[fading hare]

Oh for sure, Oracle is not a thing you leave, easily.

[burnt tendon]

But, like, you know.

[fading hare]

Anybody remember Enron? Hahahahaha

[burnt tendon]

You know that if you let Oracle in, they'll start writing checks on your account, so you say "Geez, that's nice, let's not.."

[fading hare]

That was like the biggest boy's club, of all time. I mean, other than Wall Street.

[burnt tendon]

Obviously 20 years ago, Oracle DB was actually something that offered something you could buy.

so, pretty much everything that's not kickback is just turning the cash crank, decade after decade, until they get tired and replace their Oracle with a small PostgreSQL install.

[fading hare]

Yup.

[wooden schooner]

a college friend told me about his complexity theory class where they were talking about variants of Turing machines such as oracle machines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_machine) and he was like "what is that? a sh**y VM?"

[wooden schooner]

my understanding is that government agencies are known to turn the crank until long after it's been disconnected from the gears.

[fading hare]

Then again, Oracle delivered where not a lot of others could. They could provide reliability and stability for databases run on large-scale systems that handled petabytes of data. PostgresSQL, not so much. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love PostgreSQL, and I worked next door to the guys that developed MySQL in Sweden (like the OG guys).

That's why the default MySQL MyISAM character set was ISO-8859-1 for the longest time. I don't remember if they also did that for new InnoDB tables. That's also why I secretly, and with a passion, hated the guys that created MySQL. As a web developer it was a nightmare to use ISO-8859-1.

Also...

All Day, y'all.

https://youtu.be/NTzPxx3SJ1Y

That is some excellent engineering right thurr.

That ray of light doesn't reach (and form a doorway) on the wall of the inner burial chamber but one day of the year. Winter Solstice.

Some guy from the Internet, probably: "I'm developing things for profit (or whatever) using open source software, open source hardware, and I expect you to answer my EXTREMELY important question IMMEDIATELY, or I will no longer do business with you." Me: "Sir, what level of SLA do you subscribe to?"

[weary fiber]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39°01'18.5"N+93°35'40.5"W/@39.0218169,-93.5950076,129m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xd87af7588b9c362e!8m2!3d39.0218056!4d-93.5945833

just found this

[fading hare]

that was on Hacker News earlier

not only are you posting old news, but you didn't give it the "old person" grace time of at least 72 hours

that's how long I wait to share memes with my stepson

because he's already seen all of them, everywhere, at the same time

somehow

Good news everyone. Nobody has shot at anyone else within 1.5 miles of my residence today.

[weary fiber]

this is the kinda statement that demands context lol

[slim shard]

I bet you greatly underestimate streamers.

[weary fiber]

I have no idea what this means, this conversation is so vague

[slim shard]

Streamers use cameras to shoot video of themselves and others onto the internet. It is rather commonplace today.

[fading hare]

I live in a city.

[primal flower]

Sounds like you live in a terrible place. I am praying for your safety from the boonies

[fading hare]

Haha, it's fine. Could be way worse, like out west or up north.

[primal flower]

True. Remember: The engine block of a car is the only thing in a car that will protect you.

[silver shale]

First day at work over the Christmas break

[lusty fossil]

I'm actually slightly bummed that my work schedule has me off on saturday. I would have liked the 1.5X pay. But it's fine

[silver shale]

cannot legally do overtime until I am 18 lol

[lusty fossil]

lol

[silver shale]

Reset and cleaned 63 Cisco APs, possibly 200+ more

[lusty fossil]

nice

[silver shale]

Found two serial port cards, both dual port. I could be able to access four at a time but only had two Cisco serial cables.

Thanks to who devved the Moschip serial driver for Linux

[hasty wedge]

another StemmaQT cable become loose

check the manufacturer

it's a qwiic

explains everything

[lusty fossil]

they are the same thing

or at least I'm 99.9% sure they are

[hasty wedge]

qwiic means that manufactured by sparkfun

[lusty fossil]

I wouldn't be surprised if Adafruit and Sparkfun use the same vendor

it's just a JST SH 4 pin connector

[hasty wedge]

adafruit stemma qt cables never fail on me

[lusty fossil]

hm

[hasty wedge]

and I already broke two qwiic cables

If you compare sparkfun and adafruit's i2c cables

sparkfun: soft and squishy

[lusty fossil]

I must be wrong. TIL

[hasty wedge]

adafruit: sturdy and nicely built

I can feel the difference

[lusty fossil]

I've decided that when I have the money to collect something, I'm gonna collect uranium glass. It's just so neat. Plus I can use it to scare off any kryptonians that might harass me. Dead ringer for kryptonite

[slim shard]

that'd be a rad hobby

[late fulcrum]

I decided to go next level and have a neon tube made out of uranium glass. It's sort of a trifecta of danger, there's the radioactive glass, the high voltage, and the ultraviolet from the discharge that makes the glass fluoresce. I like it.

[wooden schooner]

is the danger the only selling point, or does it also function differently?

[late fulcrum]

It functions like any neon tube, but instead of a phosphor applied to the inside of the glass, the glass itself (well, the uranium oxide in the glass) fluoresces. There's the bonus danger of mercury, too.

[wooden schooner]

Oh nice

And how do you mitigate these dangers?

[burnt tendon]

I mean, red fiestaware is a lot more dangerous, the amount of uranium in the glass is actually fairly low.

For me, the selling point of uranium glass neon in particular is that there's a certain greenness to the color that cannot be replicated any other way.

You can tell real uranium glass from faux uranium glass in general because it fluoresces and, while you can add coloring agents to glass to get the color close in theory, it won't react to UV the same way and that also means that in a practical basis it'll never quite match in sunlight vs indoors.

But in something that's designed to create UV so as to make phosphors and stuff fluoresce? Whole different ballgame.

The part I love about neon tubing is that the arc that you can see on any non-phosphor-coated tubes has a life to itself, especially depending on what sort of transformer you can use. I love the effect so much I have a FastLED sketch that replicates it vaguely on a LED strip.

[harsh goblet]

Anyone have thoughts on linux in the workplace? I program for a distributor and they only use windows. Is it unreasonable for me to ask to use Linux? The only software we I use that isn't Linux compatible is logmein.

[wooden schooner]

Does this distributor have other employees/contractors/etc. whose skills or job-relevant comfort level are specific to Windows?

I'd say the main question your need to answer for whoever's in charge is: "why should I?" They're unlikely to do it just as a favor, unless you help them see why it will make or save them money.

[blissful roost]

As someone who only goes for Linux roles... ?
Yeah, I prefer my desktop OS to at least be in the same ballpark as the servers I should be working on.

[harsh goblet]

Yes everyone here uses windows. So I'd be the only person using a Linux operating system on my work machine

[blissful roost]

At my current job, I don't get a choice.. all our company PCs are on Windows.

My old webhosting job.. I maintained my own desktop PC, including OS and hardware upgrades. 😎

[harsh goblet]

That's what I would like to do

If I was allowed to switch to Linux I wouldn't expect our PC tech to solve all my problems and I would expect the switch to increase my productivity

Also I think my weak work machine would do better with Linux

[blissful roost]

I'm currently playing around with a server here...
Planning to run Fedora CoreOS and Rancher/Kubernetes.

Still not sure what I'll run in the containers, but that's not important yet. 😁

[thick wind]

Changing the OS on company PCs is probably not ideal, but the software guys on my team all work in Linux VMs?

If your hardware isn't up to snuff for the asks you're working on, take it up to IT so it's on them, not you.

[blissful roost]

We can connect to Linux VMs, but my role doesn't get involved in that.

[harsh goblet]

I mean I can see why people would say it isn't ideal for the company, but the situation is this. I use windows to connect to our Linux server to write code. So there's actually no reason I need to stay on windows.

[blissful roost]

With the webhosting company, it was certainly beneficial to have all the support staff on Linux...

If you can't maintain that yourself, you won't be working on the servers. Lol

[harsh goblet]

That's fair hahaha

I'll likely be moving on to a company with less aversion to linux and writing actual code.

[blissful roost]

Current employer certainly isn't restricting us to Windows for the sake of bias.. it's just the service requirement.

So, meh.

Most of my job is GUI-based with a heavy reliance on Windows. 😐

If I can get into 3rd line support, I'll be involved in the Linux side.

[lusty fossil]

Is the glass itself dangerous?

[hasty wedge]

I basically ported the Trinket Audio Player to RP2040 (more like a rewrite)

https://learn.adafruit.com/trinket-audio-player?view=all

Also, epilepsy warning due to the blinking light on the Trinkey QT2040 (as a picoprobe)

[dusk oracle]

warner bro's... never thought i would see them fall so low i need a pull up resistor just to get a 0.000001v reading

☹️ they ruined the matrix

i looked forward to it for years and all i got was another message and it's not related to the film, it's just garbage

i get it you wanted to make a movie...
so you took Transfomers and Free guy.. then blended it with something that doesn't mix well and then dropped everything that make the old movies good.... if i wanted to rewatch a bad version of the matrix i would have filmed it in my back yard

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-angry-unimpressed-not-in-the-mood-gif-12081205

[dusk oracle]

and the sheer level of hype

when i saw tre trailers i already knew

[lusty fossil]

I only really liked the first matrix, as a film. I'll see if this one is better than the 2nd and 3rd ones. I try not to put too much of my hoping spoons towards media. I got lucky with The Wheel of Time that it's pretty watchable and a reasonable adaptation (although I am only 3 episodes into it).

[dusk oracle]

i hate to say it, it's worse than all 3

id be angry and forcing them to redo the film

[lusty fossil]

when I get mad I just watch Curb and I stop being angry

[dusk oracle]

i really cannot stress how bad this was done, it felt lazy, it felt like it did not care for what has been laid down, it just tries to be something it never was.

it's like watching the new ghost busters

and wondering why a second time would be better

[dusty citrus]

sometimes it's not an option.

if your work place has mandated active directory or group policy controls in place.

[harsh goblet]

Well then I guess the plan is to work at a place that will let me use linux

Pretty much every part of programming has been easier for me on linux. So an employer forcing me to use windows is like asking me to dig a deep hole with a spoon

[dusk oracle]

ever got so used to linux.. you get a support call and can't help a windows user?

[harsh goblet]

I've been in similar situations haha

[harsh goblet]

What flavor of linux do you use

[slim shard]

Nuke and pave, works for failures from not booting to misplaced icons.

[dusk oracle]

anything with a command line, debian, arch, mint it just needs to get the job done

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860462509881557049/923350376424554516/unknown.png

[blissful roost]

Seems like 3 people who haven't seen it.

[wooden schooner]

Sounds like the new Matrix doesn't have full rank.

[silver shale]

I used Debian 10 mainly for the last two days, running two screen sessions with kernel supported hardware worked much better.

I work in IT resale so use of Linux can be very helpful.

[blissful roost]

Gatekeepers, everywhere....

[wooden schooner]

apologies, I was making a math joke and don't get your response

[lusty fossil]

I chuckled

[blissful roost]

Never mind.... I must have missed it.

Bloody good film though.

[wooden schooner]

what kinds of job role are you considering?

[wooden schooner]

I've worked a couple of jobs where the vast majority of people use Macbooks to SSH into a dev server that runs Linux (maintained by a separate ops team) and to view web dashboards. In those roles, no one had a problem with me using Linux -- which makes sense, since my job responsibilities never involved running anything locally.

Heck, in one job, I was given the option of Windows or Mac. I chose Mac, ran a Linux VM, and used that to SSH into the dev server. The VM was just so that I could use i3 window manager.

[dusk oracle]

i really cannot believe they released this garbage and called it a movie

https://tenor.com/view/ppf-lol-omg-gif-21502676