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dusk oracle
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truly were in a amazing era for tech

late fulcrum
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If they can get the speed up to 32kHz and add some registers (both seem feasible), that could be pretty useful.

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On the other hand, it can't be that expensive to put a CPU on silicon, there are some truly cheap CPUs out there like the PMS150C at 3 cents apiece

zealous ermine
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Turns out my motorcycle repair adventures aren't over yet

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The oil filter plug started leaking again :(

tardy badger
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If you viewed Catholic Church goers as military members, the Vatican would have the largest occupying force of any country in the world

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Lol

tardy badger
zealous ermine
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Yeah i think i know why

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It was fine at first, then i had to take it off to adjust the oil filter

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So the o-ring seal got compressed and didnt mate to the sealing surface after i re installed it

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Plus i found a sizeable dent on it

tardy badger
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Oh no

zealous ermine
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Yeah its not ideal

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The threads on the engine block look good though. The first few are a bit chewed up but the rest look excellent

late fulcrum
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Sometimes a few wraps of teflon tape helps

delicate stream
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Just use Flex Tape, that'll fix anything

real falcon
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flex tape and bailing wire to make a boat heh

delicate stream
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Might be able to make it entirely out of flex tape

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Just need a few layers

real falcon
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15 usd for 5 feet x 4 inch wide

delicate stream
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That's a small boat

real falcon
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so that boat thing look like they taped both sides. thats $30 repair for that boat heh

delicate stream
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Better than hundreds to buy a new boat!

tardy badger
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It was a funny thought I had reading about how the Vatican made huge disclosures about their finances

median viper
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“Only 14% of its properties in Italy were rented at market prices, while the rest were rented at reduced prices, many of them to employees of the church. About 40% were institutional buildings, such as schools, convents, and hospitals.”

tardy badger
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I just think about how the Vatican has more influence than any single person on the planet

median viper
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@tardy badger According to the teachers in my personal religion (I have a personal religion). The Vatican is becoming or is the “one world religion” spoken of in the apocalypse and while my cousin is a devout Catholic I think he relies on the priests too much where I think for myself.

delicate stream
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I wonder if Taco Tuesday is popular in Australia

tardy badger
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Maybe some of our Australian folks could answer that lol

delicate stream
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I dunno who's from down under other than Xenia, lol

tardy badger
median viper
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Oh I have no need to say anything further lol

hasty quarry
delicate stream
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I wonder if I'm allergic to lambs...

blissful roost
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A bit of mint sauce should fix that..

orchid zephyr
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could I perhaps use a gearbox to use my cnc wood router as a steel mill?

late fulcrum
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Presumably the frame isn't rigid enough for the forces involved, so it might not give very good accuracy.

orchid zephyr
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One sec

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It’s not mine, but I’m allowed to use it so I don’t want to damage it.

sick adder
jovial path
median viper
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I ordered my Pi screen with the case

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To build a Pi touchpad

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Should be here Thursday

dull mirage
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the post dance! :3

jovial path
tardy badger
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I’m not really talking about the religious aspects of Catholicism, just the raw numbers of followers and social and potential political influence

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There’s 1.3 billion Catholics in the world

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The Vatican wields more influence than the CCP

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Not to mentioned the influence over Lutheran followers and some Protestants. Their influence is greater than any single person in the world

late fulcrum
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There are lots of institutions with more influence than any single person

delicate stream
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Lots and lots

tardy badger
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I was just saying the one at the top is the Vatican

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Not from a religious standpoint

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Just raw influence, reach, monetary resources

jovial path
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I think some institutions uses their speach every week.

late fulcrum
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Not the Illuminati?

jovial path
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They put in the YouTube channel a subject and churches talks about the same thing as they did.

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I checked.

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I wached Vatican videos in the past.

delicate stream
tardy badger
delicate stream
jovial path
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And the church I went talked the same subject as they did.

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...

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It was not a coincidence.

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My city is small and "unimportant"

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And we are nowhere.

tardy badger
# delicate stream China?

Nah, China deals with upheaval and foreign thought all the time. Plus look at what’s happening with China tech right now

jovial path
delicate stream
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I need to find a good online or hybrid church 'cuz I don't think I'm going to be comfortable with in-person services for a long while

tardy badger
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The rise of nationalism too around the world has weakened China’s appeal as well

jovial path
tardy badger
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Nationalism isn’t necessarily promoting monopolies, it’s this idea that you promote and favor manufacturing and product design/development in your own country vs off shoring

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It promotes the love of a strong national identity usually at the expense of people who are not from that country

jovial path
tardy badger
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China does want things consolidated but there is a reason for this

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They are a collectivist society, and for a long time there has been a lot of effort put into promoting “one China” this idea that they all share the same identity

blissful roost
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Resistance is futile!

tardy badger
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Nah, communism is different than collectivism

blissful roost
jovial path
blissful roost
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Nope

tardy badger
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It’s not the same

blissful roost
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Not even close.

jovial path
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We learnt from different books.

tardy badger
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China while it has a “communist party” is an Autocratic Collectivist society

delicate stream
tardy badger
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And that distinction is important

jovial path
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I do not like communism.

tardy badger
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Communism isn’t inherently bad

blissful roost
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But, but... Communism Bad!

jovial path
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But the way you say looks like communism.

blissful roost
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Nope

tardy badger
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The Amish for instance are theocratic communist

blissful roost
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Again, false equivalence.

tardy badger
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The do everything for the good of the community but they value individuality and their faith

blissful roost
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Actual communism would be like that.

jovial path
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...

blissful roost
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Not fascism, which seems more like what you're thinking of.

jovial path
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Never read this worked in real life in any government.

blissful roost
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Because no-one ever did.

tardy badger
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Right, Autocracy and Fascism get confused for Socialism and Communism but they are not the same

blissful roost
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Indeed

delicate stream
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Somebody always gets greedy and it falls apart

blissful roost
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And there's never been a Communist State.

tardy badger
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The Soviet Union was an oligarchy

blissful roost
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Still is..

tardy badger
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Yup lol

delicate stream
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Underground

tardy badger
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But anyway, our world has become sensitive to things because we were told what things were without actually getting a chance to decide for ourselves

jovial path
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It is nice how old Greece influenced everyone with their democracy.

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Pretty great.

blissful roost
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Of course.. Joe Bloggs doesn't have any actual choice.

tardy badger
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Democracy is a fun topic too because it’s mob rule at the end of the day

delicate stream
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I made the choice to get the CircuitPython Purple USB-C cables and do not regret it

tardy badger
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Ohhh they have those

delicate stream
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Yiss!

tardy badger
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I have a nice lime green usb c cable

jovial path
delicate stream
tardy badger
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I’ll need to order one… or ten

delicate stream
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Soooo good feeling on the weave

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I started with 2, lol

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And it has aluminium on the ends

tardy badger
delicate stream
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Imagine if the US was a full democracy

tardy badger
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Gosh that sounds deadly

delicate stream
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Yeah

jovial path
tardy badger
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Consider education to be a formulated set of instructions to promote national identity and minimize the ability to freely seek

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Even college and university is very much like this

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It’s not always bad

jovial path
tardy badger
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I didn’t do well in school

jovial path
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For me it is a divergent thinking.

blissful roost
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Schools are intended to produce obedient workers.

tardy badger
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I didn’t particularly like the US public education as system because they gave you enough information to have an ideal but not enough to be able to make a good decisions on the information but still forced you to have a view point on it regardless

jovial path
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For me schools are one of the best things in life.

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If not the best.

delicate stream
blissful roost
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One of my teachers described me as "the least compliant student ever!" and "an absolute pleasure to do battle with". 😂

delicate stream
blissful roost
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Thankfully, my father taught me all the useful things.

delicate stream
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Honestly I feel like most of school was a waste of time

tardy badger
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If you fit into the mold of the education system you will really like it

jovial path
tardy badger
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I never liked school or university

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It was a necessary evil for me

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And it’s a necessary evil for a lot of people. Mostly because the education system at least in the US is rigged towards preparing students for an economy and social economic system that just doesn’t exist anymore

delicate stream
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I have severe test anxiety and had a lot of issues in school, despite knowing the material... I hated school

tardy badger
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I have kids and I dread their experience in public schools

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My son starts in the public schools this year, next month actually

delicate stream
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I might consider home schooling if I have get to have kids...

tardy badger
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I wish I had the resources to home school

delicate stream
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I wouldn't let kids near public school here

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Private schools often aren't totally safe -- I went to a Roman Catholic school and a private Lutheran school, and a Roman Catholic high school, and bullying was a problem in all of them

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The Lutheran school wasn't as bad... it was tiny, so I only had 12 people to worry about instead of 40 in my class

tardy badger
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My son has a speech impediment and can’t talk very clearly even after 2 years of speech therapy so I feel like he’s going to get bullied

blissful roost
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Glad my parents didn't push religion

delicate stream
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Ugh, that's the worst... It sucks you can't be there and like,
brats that make fun of him

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I don't think there's really much to be done to prevent bullying, at least not completely... but how you care for the emotional wounds bullying creates is probably the best thing you can do when it happens

jovial path
blissful roost
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Yes.

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My family has never been overly religious anyway.

delicate stream
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Parents who are hyper-strict and forceful about anything are scary

blissful roost
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My wife was a "subscribed" Christian.. if that's an appropriate term.

delicate stream
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?

tardy badger
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My parents were/are

blissful roost
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She still believes in God, but she's not committed to the dogma.

delicate stream
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Ah

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If she doesn't subscribe to a particular denomination, then she's a nondenominational Christian

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Well, if she follows the Bible at all

blissful roost
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That's probably the right term.

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She has a lot of problems with the Bible.. especially the parts about slavery.

delicate stream
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If she doesn't believe in the Bible but just in God in general, I guess she's a theist?

dusk oracle
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i recently got called and labeled a incel on another server.
And it shocked me to read up and find where ever they got this dolar store idea was the most inaccurate description of me I have ever seen.

blissful roost
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Ohh, I've been called a "Chad" before.. 😂

delicate stream
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I've been called many things

tardy badger
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Same

blissful roost
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Oh, same.

dusk oracle
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Here i am, a calm engineer with knowledge and i'm suddenly a incel

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just confusing

delicate stream
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Sometimes you do nothing and then you're a target because you're not agreeing

tardy badger
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It happens. I was in the middle of my computer engineering and got roasted by EEs for not knowing how to do something I was trying to learn how to do

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Then I found this community

delicate stream
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The other day I was just walking with my headphones on and these girls basically verbally assaulted me

jovial path
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Do not ask help to students.

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It is a waste of time.

tardy badger
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Asking professors/tutors for help?

delicate stream
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Sometimes fellow students can and will help you, but some people are just doodooheads

tardy badger
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I tutored for Circuit Analysis while I’m school

jovial path
dusk oracle
jovial path
delicate stream
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I did a lot of helping in school

tardy badger
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And most of what I was trying to do my professors deferred me to grad students and online forums because they hadn’t done it in years

delicate stream
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Gotta love when the professors can't help you with what they're teaching...

tardy badger
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Well, in undergrad they don’t teach you PCB design and circuit design in general

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That stuff is saved for grad school and industry

delicate stream
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I wish I had actually been taught

jovial path
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Like, go prepared.

dusk oracle
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my one teacher hated me, said i have crazy idea's and made fun of me, end of the school term i was the only one to pass.

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🤣

jovial path
delicate stream
jovial path
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Never go to office hours without anything in hands or unprepared.

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Professors hates this.

tardy badger
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I was more than prepared with what I was trying to do, my professors simply didn’t have the knowledge to give me and they conceded this

blissful roost
delicate stream
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I had a few professors who had open office hours and you could just come hang out and ask random questions and it was whatever

tardy badger
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Professors won’t know everything and you have good professors if they concede to not having all the answers

blissful roost
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So, yeah... Toxic AF.

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Banhammers r gud.

tardy badger
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And the funny thing is, many of the professors I went to for answered said they would one day love for me to show them how to do what I learned

blissful roost
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Donkings. 👍

delicate stream
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I haven't banned anyone in a while

blissful roost
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I need to cook bacon tomorrow.

delicate stream
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I want bacon

blissful roost
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❤️❤️❤️🥓

jovial path
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Probabily not.

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Or had no parents or anything similar to this.

blissful roost
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I have back bacon, bagels, cream cheese and apple sauce.

tardy badger
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They were Ph.Ds

delicate stream
jovial path
dusk oracle
jovial path
tardy badger
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Ph.ds are focused in their studies it’s impossible for them to have all the answers

delicate stream
tardy badger
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Menial tasks like PCB design most professors delegate to grad students

jovial path
tardy badger
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“Love” in this context means they would be delighted

jovial path
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I see. I completelly misunderstood. I tought you wrote a non grammatically correct phrase and you tried to write a very bad thing your professor said

delicate stream
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grammatically incorrect

jovial path
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Wait. I tought he wrote a non grammatically correct text.

delicate stream
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Nope, he was grammatically correct

jovial path
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Sorry @tardy badger your professors did go to school and did have parents.

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I misunderstood the text.

delicate stream
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The focus of "love" was on the idea of being taught the answer to his question

jovial path
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I tought the professor offended you deeply

delicate stream
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I mean, a professor could say they love you and you could be not offended by that, lol

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Particularly if it's in a platonic context

jovial path
delicate stream
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I know what you mean, I just dunno why your brain went there, lol

jovial path
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Sometimes when you speak other languages you force phrases to make sense to you.

delicate stream
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Fair

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Communication hard

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Waaaay past my bedtime, need sleep... night kids

jovial path
honest jolt
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Haha thanks all
Also the power buses are running at 5v cause all the devices are powered by 5v but the esp32 pins are only 3.3v
So all it takes is one wrong pin connection andsparkygoes the esp32

delicate stream
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Remember when to use a credit card, the cashier would put it on a thing and go KURCHNK and write stuff down?

scenic oak
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oh, the joy of the dark ages.

delicate stream
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lol

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I kinda miss that sound

scenic oak
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much less secure though

ancient kindle
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I mean yeah

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you're literally writing down the entire card

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in plain ink

delicate stream
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Yeah, no idea if the card is valid until later, lol

median viper
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@tardy badger my schools have no circuit design I have a degree in computer science knew nothing about electricity I took automotive classes to learn about electricity

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I am T-TEN certified with Toyota now

tardy badger
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My program was computer engineering so I took circuit analysis and whatnot but circuit analysis doesn’t tell you what you need to know about circuit design

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I was told if you wanted to learn circuit design, you either learn in industry or in grad school

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So I learned on my own outside of industry and whatnot

median viper
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Now I am back at it in the computer science department again

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I am learning computer science

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Doing artificial intelligence

tardy badger
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I do embedded software engineering and whatnot

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Mostly developing stuff around Linux installers

median viper
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There are no “jobs” where I live lol for jr developers

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I don’t care

tardy badger
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Apply for remote jobs?

median viper
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The only place you will work on the computers for is farm and automobiles

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Yeah I did a test for sales force the other day but I ran out of time and they ghosted me

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I don’t care

tardy badger
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Ive had recruiters reach out to me a lot lately but most end up ghosting me when I ask about salary range before wasting my time applying

median viper
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I am getting data science AI engineering certificates through department of labor

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And Nc state through US government grant

tardy badger
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Nice, AI and data science are good fields

median viper
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Yeah it’s cool

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I am going to try to use algorithms for my open source electronics

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But I don’t sit there and go crazy making stuff like you guys I like better kits

tardy badger
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Nice, algorithms are a lot less common in practice than I thought they would be

median viper
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Algorithms can solve a lot of problem

tardy badger
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Sure

median viper
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I used algorithms even working at the tire store for unloading the truck

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I use it for work lol

tardy badger
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I’m just saying in practice the algorithms they stress in school are far less common than they make it out to be

median viper
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Unless you have a FAANG interview

polar bloom
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Not really. You just don't have to implement them yourself.

median viper
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Divide and conquer for example

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Like store stocking shelves working at stores

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Use algorithms

tardy badger
median viper
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What are you doing with dijsktra

tardy badger
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But we are forbidden from using recursive algorithms in our work

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Network topology stuff

median viper
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Oh to lower routes by time?

tardy badger
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Sort of

median viper
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What is your edge weight

polar bloom
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It depends a little bit on how niche you go. The more niche, the more algorithm stuff.

tardy badger
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I can’t really talk too much about it, just high levels for this isn’t because I don’t understand it, it’s just the nature of my job and what we do

median viper
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Algorithms are great for robots

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I think I am going to make an orchard

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I will try to build robots and use data for my orchard

tardy badger
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That would be cool

median viper
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Because hiring workers in a pain in the butt and I don’t want to pick an entire orchard myself

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Fruit picking and fruit packing

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Counts per treee average sizes

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Up in Michigan though probably do apples

tardy badger
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Nice

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I want to have some land and a bunch of fruit trees one day

median viper
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My dad doesn’t want to deal with animals

median viper
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O.o he lecturing on evolutionary algorithms

jovial path
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I made a project to show in a display data from a SD card.

delicate stream
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Mmmm, Nokia 5110 screen...

jovial path
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Yes.

blissful roost
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I got one of those for a project.. still not powered it up. Lol

delicate stream
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I have one I got like... 15 years ago from Sparkfun? Never actually used it in a project, lol

jovial path
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In the BAJA SAE project I worked, we were working in a project to save the position of the car in a SD card.

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In real time, but this wasn't my job there, I worked in the velocimeter, Android App, fuel sensors, website, speech to kids from schools, I also worked doing mechanical jobs, like help with iron parts, mechanical engineering devices, etc...

blissful roost
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I should use one for my Arduino fan controller.

lusty axle
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so the adafruit blog had an article a while back about bypassing firmware protection on apple airtags

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Anybody tried it yet? I gave it a shot and am pretty sure I have it working! But this is kinda my first foray into reverse engineering

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a really cool project to learn about hardware security though, I can't believe it works!

slim shard
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macropad is going up in price about as fast as bitcoin

burnt tendon
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Clearly a macro-economic problem.

delicate stream
burnt tendon
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I mean, both can coexist

delicate stream
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shakes fist angerly and nods approvingly

scenic oak
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oh hey, Microchip seems to have bumped up the timeframe for my entire order

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I was looking at getting some next week, and some in April

scenic oak
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getting 'em all next week now

delicate stream
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Yeet!

tardy badger
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Niceeeee

burnt tendon
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I suspect the panic buying and panic-related not-buying is doing a real number on their lead time and stocking algorythms.

jovial path
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I wish they sell this calculator. I want it so much... But I can not have everything....

late fulcrum
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HP calculators are still sold, but not the classic ones like that. Swiss Micro also offers some very nice HP clones.

wooden schooner
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Ok, the mfr website does have a "spare parts" page that includes that stand on its own. Given that Amazon is their USA distributor, I asked if they're able to make a separate Amazon product for the stand, we'll see what they say.

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But dang, their most basic soldering iron is a 60W, temperature controlled iron that is pretty well rated. It looks more convenient than my $20 BEST-102C, since the on/off switch and temp controls are right on the pen rather than in the middle of the power cord. That iron plus the stand are currently going for $11.89.

delicate stream
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looks at USB soldering iron and wet napkin "soldering kit"

static flare
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Honestly I think a USB soldering iron sounds cool

delicate stream
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Very handy

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But only 8W

static flare
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I have a very bulky setup, I kinda want to get one with a battery for portability

delicate stream
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Portability good

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I have a little lunchbox that's my emergency electronics "medkit"

late fulcrum
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You can get a stand on its own from AdaFruit, but not as cheap (in either sense of the word): https://www.adafruit.com/product/150

static flare
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I bought the solder roll holder version (just the solder) and it's been terribly useful, would buy again

wooden schooner
late fulcrum
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You can see it in the corner of my (crowded but productive) workbench here

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I find a 1# roll of solder keeps it in place nicely, but you could attach a weight/clamp to it for more stability.

wooden schooner
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The solder holding one absolutely - I was referring to the model that just has the sponge slot

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Hm - do you not find yourself wanting to have the solder spool on the left so that you can bring in the solder wire from that side while you hold the iron in your right hand (assuming you're right handed)?

late fulcrum
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That is an occasional problem. Sometimes I'll have a second stand to the left (you can see the Hakko and Weller soldering iron power supplies in the back, I'll sometimes have two irons in use)

delicate stream
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This is my "solder dispenser"

wooden schooner
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what are those little white squares on the table? Storage compartments?

delicate stream
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Mine or his? XD

wooden schooner
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His - yours are living in the Matrix so I know not to ask

late fulcrum
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Looks like a ferrite loopstick

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The white squares are a Lectron set: each one is a clear block with a component inside, the schematic symbol on top, and contacts on the edges. When you arrange the blocks to form a schematic, you have built that circuit. It's great for learning/experimenting. Here's a clearer view

delicate stream
delicate stream
late fulcrum
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Radio Shack used to sell pocket tubes of solder that were portable like that.

delicate stream
late fulcrum
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There are a few other versions out there, Gakken makes an electronic blocks set, and there's Brick R Knowledge. And of course the older "100 in one" kits with the Fahnestock clips or bendy springs. And Snap Circuits are available from AdaFruit.

delicate stream
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I have a giant 500 in one kit I never played with, lol

late fulcrum
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Oh yeah, there's also LittleBits!

delicate stream
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I've thought about playing with all the other things, but they feel too much like toys... Your kit looks like it's purely about laying out the circuit visually

static flare
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our local electronics shop sells 3 of those style for like $5AUD

late fulcrum
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I tend to agree. Snap Circuits can teach some basic circuit theory, and LittleBits hides a lot of the details, it's aimed more at artists than electronics teaching, while Lectron has a bewildering variety of blocks available for building up whatever circuit you like from the ground up. There are even vacuum tube blocks, and a little voltage tripler module to power them safely.

delicate stream
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So jelly

late fulcrum
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There are even integrated circuit blocks available. I used those, as well as tubes and discrete component blocks to build this over-the-top hybrid dual-band AM/FM radio once.

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At that level of complexity, you can begin to see the limitation of a basically 2D layout: almost 2/3 of the blocks in use are just wire connections.

delicate stream
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But it looks cool

wooden schooner
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Oh I guess there could be a "cross wires without touching" block

dusk oracle
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now this.. i wish was common place.

late fulcrum
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There are a few styles of "cross wires without touching" blocks, two of which are visible here.

static flare
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is that an astable multivibrator?

jovial path
late fulcrum
static flare
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First ever circuit I designed, it's burned into my memory

stoic mesa
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pretty advanced for first circuit

static flare
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I mean, before that it was a LED thing where the layout was already given

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Then after that we went to do H-bridges

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that was fun

late fulcrum
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I'm trying to build a vacuum tube version of it with Lectron. The astable one works well, but the bistable one is tricky at the low (safe) plate voltage available.

jovial path
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(My smartphone sent the GIF in my pocket, sorry)

jovial path
delicate stream
blissful roost
tardy badger
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That’s pretty cool

blissful roost
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😁

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I've got loads more on the way.

delicate stream
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Haha

blissful roost
real falcon
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that bun have skill to hold it without grasping it at all

blissful roost
#

No opposable thumbs.. right?

real falcon
#

yep, basically domain of monkeys

blissful roost
#

Also known as; why cats can't rule the earth.

delicate stream
#

I can pick things up without thumbs

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Just gotta have long digits and SKILL

blissful roost
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But we have a finer motor skill with fingers and thumb.

delicate stream
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This is true

wooden schooner
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My posterior chain hurts just looking at that bunny

honest jolt
# late fulcrum I tend to agree. Snap Circuits can teach some basic circuit theory, and LittleB...

Snap circuits are fun. They also sell parts which have spring sockets so you can put your own resistors, capacitors, etc (literally any 2/3 pin device as long as you don't mind bending the pins) and also a version for an 8-pin IC
Except it's pretty expensive and they are really big which is good for learning but also gets pretty annoying cause snapping and unsnapping stuff is kinda hard lol

late fulcrum
#

Oh, I have nothing against Snap Circuits, I quite like them, and they're good for hands-on electronics learning, and come with well-written explanatory material. I just prefer Lectron for faster manipulation (the magnetic blocks are quick and easy to rearrange) and more esoteric circuits and components.

stoic mesa
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How expensive is Lectron?

late fulcrum
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Alas, it's pretty expensive 😦

delicate stream
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Lucas, why are you sitting on the floor like that? You have a perfectly good chair right there, and you're gonna hurt your back

honest jolt
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blissful roost
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Well, not an American yet... 😄

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My wife is.

burnt tendon
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I guess it goes to show that you shouldn't be Russian to conclusions.

median viper
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Bah it’s just Cyrillic did you know they use Cyrillic in Mongolia also?

drowsy zephyr
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alright guys, i need some last minute tips
right now im waiting to face my final test
any tips on facing lecturers?

crystal ore
drowsy zephyr
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yes

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i have to present my final project in front of 3 lecturers that would test me

pearl zodiac
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So where is everyone at?

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Im in Mobile, AL

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USA

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Earth

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'The Solar System'

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The Milky Way

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The Local Group

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and then idk

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everywhere

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I know it sounds weird for a stranger to ask where you are.. but its NOT weird for a stranger to ask where you are from, right?

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But I have no interest in where people were like

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born

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So thats why I frame the question that way, js

crystal ore
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California here: the good old Silicon Valley area.

blissful roost
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I'm wondering if I should go that way, instead of East coast..

crystal ore
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I prefer it, after going to school around Boston, but obviously there's a lot of differences of opinion.

blissful roost
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I've spent the most time in northern New Jersey.

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Been to NYC, DC and Maryland.

median viper
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I am from Sactown CA but I live out in the country in Nc

delicate stream
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East coast best coast

thick wind
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Oh, from the same guy who first shared his pico-based mechanical keyboard...

delicate stream
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Busy person

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I'm thinking about making my own QT Py type of RP2040 board

dusk oracle
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sucks that you can only get the pizero chips from salvaging one off a board

delicate stream
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I'm hoping Adafruit will stock them soon

mighty sphinx
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Imagine your board size being bottlenecked by the number of headers you need to fit

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Take that pro mini

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I still love both

dusk oracle
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i agree the pi zero could be way smaller with smaller headers or even versions without headers

delicate stream
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Pi -1

thick wind
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Replace the headers with a 40-pin connector, and call it the Pi Zero Compute

ancient kindle
thick wind
ancient kindle
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Ah

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Confusing topic change

thick wind
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Though I appreciate the stock update; those things do go fast, after all.

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Not that I'm ready to buy any myself...

ancient kindle
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The (7) version is in stock, but the (13) version isn’t

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No idea the difference

thick wind
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Versions?

wooden schooner
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There is nothing better or more significant than this. Do you realize that the item fits into the slot?

ancient kindle
thick wind
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Yeah, there's actually only like 2 left if you click on it

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Those go REALLY fast.

ancient kindle
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lol

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Someone bought them all in the last 3 minutes

thick wind
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Pretty sure only difference is the size of the reel

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(13) is like 3400, (7) is like 500

#

Not sure the meaning of the numbers in correlation, but it's packaging-related.

thick wind
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Oh, cleaner

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Hey, that's pretty nice

#

If I ever manage to get my own dedicated electronics space, maybe I'll get one of these

wooden schooner
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Yeah, the brass sponge fitting into the circle is good, but I was mostly referring to the fish-shaped iron holder fitting into a purpose-built indentation in the mat!!

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This also takes care of the "stand needs to be weighed down" issue from yesterday, I think/hope

thick wind
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Nice, only thing I would miss is a place for a standard sponge...

wooden schooner
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Ah yeah. They gave me a normal sponge too, but yeah only one slot.

#

When is a normal sponge needed over a brass one?

thick wind
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It's really personal preference, you won't really need both at the same time.

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The water is a pain for most electronics stations, but it's slightly better for the longevity of your tips.

wooden schooner
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Ah. Well then I'm sticking to brass so I don't have to worry about rusting my iron or, worse, setting things on fire

#

Ah did not know that

thick wind
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Brass sponge is a bit more abrasive, but is way more convenient and flexible.

wooden schooner
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I did not realize water had anything going for it, thanks for letting me know

thick wind
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I mean, if you're not really trying to scrape your tips in the brass sponge, the difference is negligible, but the sponge is better at getting that burnt flux off your tips

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I've only switched to sponge recently myself, and that's only because I overdid it on the brass...

#

The iron is one thing, but I overscraped so much my sponge was falling apart...

wooden schooner
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In a way that a kitchen sponge wouldn't?

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I've had to snip off the top few hairs of my brass sponge a bunch of times as they got soldery, and was planning to replace it for $5 when it goes bald

jovial path
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@late fulcrum In my birthday party classical musics will be played. You're invited.

dusk oracle
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thanks any way

blissful roost
delicate stream
scenic oak
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wonder how hard the toolchain is to get

blissful roost
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Sell both arms and one leg to obtain.

delicate stream
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lol

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Perfectly fine leaving it on the shelf as an art piece if it's not something I can use

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Or if it'll be like a month of research and development and/or learning to make it do something a cheap modern MCU can do

thick wind
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I actually think I have the blaster for it lying around

delicate stream
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Blaster? As in Sound Blaster?

thick wind
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No, like a programmer cable

delicate stream
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Ohhh

thick wind
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Never used it before though haha

delicate stream
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Lol

#

Do you know anything about programming it?

thick wind
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Very little?

delicate stream
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Better than nothing XD

thick wind
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My company settled on Xilinx FPGAs before I joined, so I never really played with Alteras

delicate stream
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Ah. Yeah, looking at the Intel sheet for it, it sounds like it's basically an FPGA with a different lable?

blissful roost
#

I've got a Cyclone II around somewhere, but never made use of it.

thick wind
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Basically. There are technical differences, but it's essentially the same use on a slightly smaller scale?

delicate stream
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Makes sense

thick wind
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CPLDs and FPGAs often times get placed into the same subcategory on supplier databases

delicate stream
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Is there any practical use for it? Or would I be better off getting a modern device instead of one that's 20-30 years old?

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Never used FPGAs

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Or CPLDs

thick wind
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They're still plenty useful. The older ones usually have less logic cells, but are more than enough for most DIY applications.

scenic oak
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if you want to experiment with a FPGA, it might make more sense to get one of the Lattice iCE40s though

thick wind
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Think Pi Pico's PIO system, but stretched across a lot more pins

scenic oak
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instead of trying to use an ancient one

thick wind
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Yeah, that's a fair point. I don't think it's easy to get started with a random chip off your shelf haha

delicate stream
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Yeah XD

thick wind
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If it came with a board and some programming headers....

scenic oak
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and I'm suggesting the iCE40 because of the fully open source toolchain

delicate stream
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I have a lot of random crap

thick wind
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If you have the programming adapter, it's worth playing with, but that one is probably long obsolete

scenic oak
delicate stream
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Or will I need to do 1337 haX0r stuff to make it work and start from scratch

thick wind
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I think Altera's toolchain is still available, but knowing their monetization, your free functionality is probably not going to take you very far?

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It's probably easier to get a Xilinx dev-board and play with that instead.

blissful roost
#

..and I'm still trying to decide between Arduino and Pi Pico for a fan controller. 😂

thick wind
blissful roost
#

TL;DR..

PWM fans regulated according to temp sensors.

thick wind
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What voltage does the fan run at?

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What kind of fan is it?

blissful roost
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Standard PC fans.

scenic oak
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I mean I'd probably not use something as heavy as either of those

blissful roost
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Isn't PWM taken at 3.3 or 5v, as it's just a control signal?
The +12v is separate..

thick wind
blissful roost
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Ok, fair.

thick wind
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I'm not sure which makes more sense, a 5v-capable Arduino, or a Pi Pico with a level shifter. The Arduino is probably more beginner-friendly since you do a lot more direct wiring, but the Pico has much better frequency control and supports CP

#

For your particular purpose, either would work, though I think the Pico is cheaper even with the level shifter.

blissful roost
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The Uno should do 5v PWM, right.. ?

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Rev 3

delicate stream
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I think so

blissful roost
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Already got an Uno.. and 2x Pico.

thick wind
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Yes, Uno R3 is supplied with 5V at Vcc.

blissful roost
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So... I guess I should order some thermal probes of some kind.. and a bunch of PWM fans.

delicate stream
#

Uno as logic level shifter for Pico????

blissful roost
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Lol

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Seems overkill..... The best kind of kill.

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But, nah... That would be wasteful.

delicate stream
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But it'll be fun

blissful roost
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It's a temp-sensing PWM fan controller... It's already fun! \o/

lusty axle
blissful roost
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Ohh! It should totally have a little LCD for displaying stats.

thick wind
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All you need left is buttons or a dial to adjust your setpoint

blissful roost
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That would be nice....

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Rotary encoder with a push button to cycle the fans.

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I'd definitely need some help with codey-things. Lol

delicate stream
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Still debating if I should put an OLED inside my case

blissful roost
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Yes.

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Not even asking why, just... Yes!

delicate stream
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But thermals

blissful roost
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Wassat?

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😂

delicate stream
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When things melt and/or catch fire

blissful roost
#

Ahhh, yeah....

You want masonry nails for that.

delicate stream
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The OLED on my one motherboard has mostly died, I assume due to overheating...

blissful roost
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Oof

delicate stream
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Masonry nails don't deflect heat XD

blissful roost
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😁

delicate stream
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Lol

delicate stream
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I should check the spec sheets for these OLEDs to see if they can take it...

delicate stream
# wary herald Oof

Yeah. I should see if it's actually I2C and something I can DIY replace

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Soon™️

wary herald
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🙂

delicate stream
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My Ender Pro 3 says it's 41C in my room right now

blissful roost
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Oof

delicate stream
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Sometimes I wonder if I have too much computing power in one spot

blissful roost
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Possibly....

delicate stream
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Need more AC

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And a nuclear reactor

scenic oak
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please do not melt and/or combust

blissful roost
#

I need an A64FX machine..

scenic oak
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I had too much compute power in my office for a while (but the machine has since been moved to work's datacenter rack)

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64 cores/128 threads, 512GB of RAM, 32TB of NVMe storage

delicate stream
delicate stream
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But still 1100W weeeeeee

tardy badger
#

No one:
Absolutely no one:
Random company in my company email spam folder: “do you need extra batteries for your wall lift chairs”

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🥸

delicate stream
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I need a mobility scooter and $1000

tardy badger
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I could definitely use the $1000 part

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Maybe a mobility scooter for my brain

delicate stream
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Ha

spice moss
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mobility helmet for my brain what cool it too

delicate stream
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XD

static flare
slim shard
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last I heard OLEDs fade over time or such

delicate stream
static flare
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Or at the worst, just a motor attachment for my wheelchair

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Oh, I have mobility issues! It's never come up so I've never mentioned it before

slim shard
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I figured you needed a place to mount the cardboard missile tubes

delicate stream
# slim shard last I heard OLEDs fade over time or such

Yes, they do. Individual pixels will lose brightness over time -- this is most noticeable in older displays in the form of burn-in, but can still be a problem with constant high contrast images being on an OLED display

delicate stream
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If I have the opportunity to have a free mobility scooter shipped anywhere, I'll have it sent to you, you ened it more

static flare
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Hopefully I'll get enough in disability consumables from the government in my next disability funding plan to get one

delicate stream
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I'm just fearful that my arthritis will get bad enough that I can't type

blissful roost
#

Another addition to the collection. 😎

jovial path
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Today studying was intense. But it wasn't 15h of studying, it was 13h. I think the server summed with some study that I did yesterday in their timezone or something like this.

static flare
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Moved today!

velvet pelican
delicate stream
# velvet pelican At the speed you type i don’t think arthritis is the thing you need to worry abo...

Unfortunately it's already bad enough that some days I can barely move my hands DX today it just feels like there's sand in my joints, slowing me down... My max typing speed has dropped pretty significantly, as well as my average -- my max used to be nearly 130wpm and my average was about 100, but now my max is about 90, average about 80, and over the course of a few hours it can drop as low as 60...

real falcon
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doctor wonder if you can do 2 finger typing to high enough speed

delicate stream
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I think I could still hit 20wpm with 2 fingers...

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I know I can type about 80% as fast on a phone as I can on a keyboard

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For bursts

real falcon
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i guess its arthitis. not fun 😦

delicate stream
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Very not fun

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Been dealing with it for about a decade now

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Storms make it worse... and it's getting worse as we speak...

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you know what that means

real falcon
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i just hope i never get em on hands

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i use em to talk after all, as well as do stuff

delicate stream
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This is why I'm working on robotic replacements

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If they get bad enough I just chop 'em off and put on robot hands, problem solved

real falcon
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high end

delicate stream
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If I built them out of the materials I wanted, it would cost more than 10 college degrees XD

real falcon
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🙂

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hard part is nerve interface

delicate stream
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Mhmm

real falcon
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and force and touch senses

delicate stream
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Yeah

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Nerves are the really really hard part

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I have a design in mind for force/touch, which involves artificial skin

real falcon
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cool 🙂

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id design it to be swappable because metal dont heal

delicate stream
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Mhmm

real falcon
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as backup, probably have disconnects inside arm

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so its easier to swap wires if damaged there too

delicate stream
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I have an interconnect design to make it swappable but not easily disconnected, and would probably try to minimize actual wires inside

real falcon
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yeah easily disconnectable is eh. easily swappable but not disconnectable

delicate stream
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It can be hard to make something you can disconnect quickly, but not accidentally

real falcon
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probably 2 stage, remove cover, then button inside

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powered disconnect. however in case of no power left has manual way

delicate stream
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Telekenisis!

real falcon
#

even better, rocket hands 😛

delicate stream
#

lol

delicate stream
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Printing in translucent blue TPU... watching the spool crawl is mesmerizing

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Just a subtle shimmer and sparkle...

delicate stream
tardy badger
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Ohhh

delicate stream
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Fun stuff

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Gonna use it to make a case and strap for my ruined watch

wooden schooner
#

I usually feel strain in my thumb from using my phone one-handed - I hold the phone in my palm and use my thumb on the same hand to swipe, type, etc. This seems like an ergonomic disaster and a recipe for injury. Does anyone else have this problem or know of a solution?

#

Or even, a group of people who take this program seriously and are also interested in finding solutions. I haven't even heard others talk about this

median viper
#

Have you guys seen those new Lamborghini yachts?

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Their really nice

delicate stream
median viper
#

Hrm interesting

blissful roost
delicate stream
#

I'm a giant and using my Pixel 2 XL one handed isn't a huge problem XD

blissful roost
#

The 4 XL is a tad bigger... My wife's iPony 12 Pro Max is even bigger. (With a lower res screen)

delicate stream
#

I have an iPhone 8 too, and that feels like a toy

supple surge
delicate stream
#

I'm printing an Eevee from it now

supple surge
delicate stream
#

This printer is certainly happy to do 15mm/s XD

late fulcrum
#

Where did you find an Eevee model? I ask because a kid has a Raichu with a missing leg and I'm wondering if I'll have to model it myself to print a replacement.

delicate stream
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Thingiverse, it's a low-poly version

blissful roost
delicate stream
blissful roost
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I'm fine with the default keyboard

late fulcrum
#

I found the Sidekick 3 to be pretty ergonomic for two-handed use, but a little awkward for one hand.

blissful roost
#

But on the subject of 3D printing... I really want to get some new buttons made for my OGA.

delicate stream
blissful roost
#

Yeahno. 😂

delicate stream
#

I love the idea of a folding phone

blissful roost
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Fragile.

late fulcrum
#

I was quite fond of the slider phones, but they're uncommon these days.

delicate stream
#

I'll wait and see, lol. They might have it figured out

blissful roost
#

I won't bet on it...

delicate stream
#

Time will tell

#

That's assuming it happens at all

late fulcrum
#

The iPhone 6 would fold. Once. And not work afterward.

delicate stream
#

lol

#

You're savage

blissful roost
#

😂

late fulcrum
#

The entire internet was savage on that one

blissful roost
#

Deserved

delicate stream
#

Yeah XD

#

Indeed

blissful roost
#

Just like Samsung's phone goes POP!

late fulcrum
#

I only saw one end-slider phone, but it was particularly nice, as it worked well one handed or two.

#

The more common side-sliders (like the HTC MyTouch Slide) had nicer keyboards but only for two-handed use.

tardy badger
#

One of my favorite phones of all times was the Samsung FlipShot

#
#

It was a pretty cool phone

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It had games, a 3MP camera and whatnot

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It was a fun phone for a teenager

late fulcrum
#

I'm not a fan of CDMA but that does look like a winner

delicate stream
#

I kinda miss physical keyboards on phones

late fulcrum
#

I still enjoy mine

delicate stream
#

:O

tardy badger
delicate stream
#

CDMA poo

late fulcrum
#

CDMA does not fail gracefully when signal quality varies

thick wind
#

I still miss my old Nokia 6810

#

Don't care what anyone says, that thing had the best mobile-sized physical keyboard of all time

delicate stream
#

pats Nokia 3310

spice moss
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the new version coming

tardy badger
spice moss
supple surge
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It had multiple screens after alright- about 645 of em 🤣

delicate stream
#

oof

#

I've never had to replace my own screen

#

Some stringing, ears aren't quite straight, but...

honest jolt
#

:o jelly

delicate stream
#

Go to Micro Center and get some TPU, and Thiniverse for the model, and you can have your own XD

supple surge
#

Holo-Eevee from the third dimension!

delicate stream
#

Hehehehe

#

Squishy, too

late fulcrum
#

Squisheevee

delicate stream
#

Ha

jovial path
#

I studied about 32h this week. I like it :)

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7th place is great :). I like it.

delicate stream
#

That a looot of studying

pearl zodiac
#

finally organized my desktawp

jovial path
#

My mother told me to make an engineering project every week and show in Show and Tell every week.

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I accepted.

delicate stream
#

Meanwhile, on my junky 2-in-1

jovial path
delicate stream
#

I wish 16TB drives were cheap

late fulcrum
#

4 4TB drives are cheap, and faster than 1 16TB drive

thick wind
#

Cheap is relative

delicate stream
#

But I already have 8 4TB drives and need more capacity in the same slots

thick wind
late fulcrum
#

It is true that cheap is relative. An 8TB drive costs about what an 88kB floppy drive used to.

delicate stream
late fulcrum
#

You can use Synoptix or ThunderBay to get more slots hung off a Thunderbolt or network cable.

delicate stream
#

A 16TB HDD now is still less money than the first 1GB drive

delicate stream
late fulcrum
#

I finally took my 340MB Microdrive to pieces. I should have put a size reference, the platters are about the size of a US nickel, and the entire thing is the size of a CF card (and fits and works in a CF card slot)

delicate stream
#

P... Please tell me... It was already dead...

late fulcrum
#

Oh yes, quite dead.

#

Even when it worked, it was painfully slow.

delicate stream
#

Still would have been sad to kill it

#

I hate to see functional tech die needlessly

late fulcrum
#

I know that feel

scenic oak
#

my chips are now in "OPERATIONAL DELAY" according to Fedex

delicate stream
#

My AdaBox had a label made

scenic oak
#

\o

delicate stream
#

o/

late fulcrum
#

I think those are called rambutans in the United States.

median viper
#

@jovial path I am getting kit parts for my birthday and electronics tools, hopefuilly I can build something with it.

#

my internet is flat out not working right now

delicate stream
#

F

median viper
#

my pi tablet kit is supposed to be here tomorrow

delicate stream
#

Ohhhh, you can mark messages unread now!

honest jolt
#

Do you mean this?

delicate stream
#

Yeah, maybe I'm just blind and never noticed it, lol

#

Can you ping me? I want to see if it shows ping count if you mark a ping unread

honest jolt
#

lol that happens to me too much

#

it does

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@delicate stream

delicate stream
#

Noice

honest jolt
#

I think you can ping yourself and it will do the same thing

delicate stream
#

I have a message to 'unread' in audio XD

honest jolt
#

@honest jolt

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lol

#

you can also hold the down the Alt key and click on a message to mark it unread

delicate stream
#

Noice

stray wind
delicate stream
#

I tried on my iPhone and it didn't work :P

honest jolt
honest jolt
delicate stream
#

Just press and hold

#

Maybe it's NEW on mobile

honest jolt
#

lol

#

oh wait i've been testing it on my messages >.>

delicate stream
#

XD

honest jolt
#

When I hold on my messages

#

When I hold on someone elses

stray wind
delicate stream
#

Start... Up? You mean you close Discord?

honest jolt
#

No, cause when I log in to my desktop, a billion things start before discord gets started (it starts on boot) so I get to deal with the window popping up

#

And I only close discord when I'm doing a test / restarting it lol

velvet pelican
delicate stream
honest jolt
#

Couldn't be me 😂

delicate stream
drowsy zephyr
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guys, question, if you have a small prototype of a contraption and you're tasked to do a some sort of estimate on the cost of the contraption if it were upscaled and implemented irl, how do you do that?

crystal ore
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I'd start with the per-reel prices of the major chips, since that's likely to put a floor on the cost.

wary herald
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How do I put a up arrow keycode in the Macropad macros files?

drowsy zephyr
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Guys, i wanna ask, does any of you ever worked with a professional research team before? Is there a specific role for report making? because man, during my final project, i can't bring myself to liking making my final reports. I dont like administration stuff, does anyone feel the same way?

late fulcrum
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@wary herald Are you looking for the keycode for up arrow (decimal 38) or how to modify the macros?

tardy badger
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For senior design, everyone in the project was responsible for documentation

jovial path
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In portuguese it is the same name as in USA.

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portuguese shares a lot of words with english: banana,hospital,ok,shopping...

delicate stream
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99 bugs in the code on the wall, 99 bugs in the code; take one down, pass it around, 103 bugs in the code on the wall!

lament obsidian
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I've been playing around with the macropad and using the sample code that has paginated macros. I was wondering if its possible to have any of those macros actually call python code to perform another function. More than just a letter or a keyboard shortcut.

jovial path
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My name will be on a rocket that will go to space. :)

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From NASA.

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I signed my name on the website (saying this so I will not look completelly amazing)

jovial path
supple surge
# lament obsidian I've been playing around with the macropad and using the sample code that has pa...

I’m a noob at python 🐍 still so if I’m thinking “out of bracket” I’m sure there’s another easy way, but hopefully you can replace things like line 22 with the part where it calls your py script, list, function etc, instead of as it is now, calling a key press event ☺️ https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_MacroPad/blob/main/examples/macropad_keyboard_mouse.py

GitHub

A helper library for the Adafruit MacroPad RP2040. Contribute to adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_MacroPad development by creating an account on GitHub.

supple surge
# lament obsidian I've been playing around with the macropad and using the sample code that has pa...

Here’s an example from the circuit py HID library, you can have your computer watch for these events if that’s where you wanna run the scripts ☺️ https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_HID

GitHub

USB Human Interface Device drivers. Contribute to adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_HID development by creating an account on GitHub.

lament obsidian
jovial path
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"Brazillian's corn dog" with André Marie Amperé.

jovial path
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Thank you. This is very kind.

mighty laurel
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I kinda left the Adafruit discord server, only to come back so I can rant about annoying coding can be sometimes.

late fulcrum
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Yes, we can sympathize with that!

median viper
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It’s running miniconda with vs code

jovial path
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this company is like paradise.

delicate stream
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I've realized Blue switches are a little too noisey for the MacroPad, you can't really hear sound from the speaker over the clicking XD

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Uhoh... I'm short a red!

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#feelsweirdman

late fulcrum
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I noticed switches come in batches of 10, which doesn't quite work out, so I'll probably have a mix too. However, I can put oddball keycaps on the non-matching switches

delicate stream
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I got 11

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They do sell batches of 10 and 12, but the ones this came with weren't in a labeled bag

late fulcrum
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I must have missed the 12s, I just saw 10s and 1s and was weirdly resistant to the notion of buying two 1s.

delicate stream
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Hmmmm

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I would just buy another 10

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So I don't plan to use the reds long-term anyway, just want to hear the beep boops -- need to find a very tactile, but quiet switch....

late fulcrum
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For what? Body art?

delicate stream
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What XD

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Keys will be used on other things, lol... doesn't hurt to have extras

scenic oak
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@delicate stream did your Adabox short you?

delicate stream
scenic oak
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rude 😦

delicate stream
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Indeed

thick wind
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Wait, they are in stock..... gus

idle iron
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IDK how those olympic athletes can handle the humidity, I'm fine 40c and like less then 20% RH, but 35c and 30% RH I'm dying

delicate stream
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I wonder if they could send browns instead...

thick wind
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I have this temptation to just order a bunch of random keys witches from China and have them arrive next year when I least expect it...

delicate stream
blissful roost
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.....sorry 😛

thick wind
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OH

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wow

blissful roost
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It's a joke, Sir. 😄

thick wind
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Didn't even notice.

blissful roost
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hehe

delicate stream
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Hem is a Sir? :O

thick wind
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Lucky guess.

delicate stream
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When were you knighted?!

thick wind
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Kek

delicate stream
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I greatly desire nap

thick wind
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Same.

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Except it's only 8am...

delicate stream
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Same

thick wind
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I've been awake since midnight...

blissful roost
delicate stream
blissful roost
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Mmmmmm.... chips...

delicate stream
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Although by standard you only capitalize 'sir' in the middle of a sentence if you're referring to a knight or if you're a butler/maid referring to the Master of the House, lol

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Actually even the latter you usually wouldn't

blissful roost
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No. "Sir" should always start with the upper case letter, as it's a formal title.

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Same with Mr/Mrs/Miss/etc.

delicate stream
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Hmmmmm.... Where do you live again?

blissful roost
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England.

delicate stream
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wait

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wait

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wait a second

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.... I was thinking about something else entirely, my brain is borked

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Need naaaaaap

jovial path
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I am developing( thinking ) an engineering project of a national "deposit" of house's insects. So people will not have to kill any insects at their houses, they will be alive and taken to a safe place. But I have to think in something that will make people not touch the insects because we think it is discosting. It must be way easier than trowing the insect at the window.

blissful roost
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Well..... if you throw an insect at a window, it will either bounce off or stick.

thick wind
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Assuming it's not alive with wings, in which case it might not even reach the window.

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What, however, would be the benefit of the centralized collection of live insects?

jovial path
delicate stream
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But what would you do with all those bugs? Universities don't need tens of thousands of common house spiders and mosquitoes and flies

jovial path
thick wind
jovial path
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It is like investing in the ISS or in language courses, or literature courses.

delicate stream
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Collecting tens of thousands of bugs isn't going to make any revenue if there's nothing to do with them

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Engineers do study bugs, but you only need so many

thick wind
crystal ore
thick wind
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Academic pursuit does not always result in revenue. Only when you can propose reasonable evidence of profitability will you begin to get investment.

thick wind
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I don't think NASA was beyond affordable, but if nobody important sees the benefit, it's not getting funded.

delicate stream
tardy badger
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I’d argue that a vast majority of innovations that brought us to where we are now started with MASA R&D

delicate stream
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Microwaves came from Roswell

tardy badger
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NASA gives out massive sums of money through SBIRs (I was on a project funded through a NASA SBIR)

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And thanks to that funding and the knowledge gained, that project has evolved into a business venture. Though now separate from the NASA SBIR program

stoic mesa
thick wind
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Alright, well maybe my analogy wasn't well-aligned with my original point. Is there a way to profit off of a large collection of insects? I can't think of one...

tardy badger
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I would surmise that you could find a link to NASA research and funding to all those things

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RPi wasn’t particularly ground breaking anyway, they just removed a barrier that hindered SBC from being mass produced and accessible to the public

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Even the RP2040 isn’t particularly innovative, just again, a lot of work to reduce barriers to get technology to people.

stoic mesa
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And this was an innovation.
Same as Arduino just lowered the barrier - anything you can do with Arduino a professional could have done before that using bare metal programming in C

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but Arduino IDE caused an avalanche of new projects and developments

delicate stream
tardy badger
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Removing barriers to entry isn’t exactly innovative. Arduino I’d argue was more innovative than RPi

stoic mesa
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ok, that's a minor point.
But transistor, IC, laser, internet - those are truly groundbreaking

tardy badger
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Most places removed barriers simply by absorbing costs or removing a profit motive from the equation

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But even still, lots of innovations in the IC space were driven by space development in the 60s and 70s

stoic mesa
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true
still, I think that teh statement "most innovations started at NASA" is somewhat a stretch

tardy badger
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That’s not what I was trying to imply

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NASA R&D includes private partnerships

delicate stream
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Obviously the greatest innovations came from crashed extraterrestrial vessels

tardy badger
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All hail the lizard overlords

weary fiber
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All my greatest ideas come from the verse generator in TempleOS

tardy badger
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I’m just saying that people underestimate the reach that NASA had and how it’s hands were in a lot of innovations we enjoy today

weary fiber
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Totally

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I feel like they also drove a huge leap forward in avionics

delicate stream
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There are a lot of things NASA pulled strings on that they didn't actually develop themselves, in contracting private companies to do things

weary fiber
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Corporations can innovate on demand, there just has to be someone who’s rich enough & interested in innovation enough to fund it

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NASA was that someone

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^ hot take that I’m not 100% confident about

tardy badger
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Nowadays the DoD plays a bigger role in modern innovations that NASA

delicate stream
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... How did we go from collecting bugs to NASA innovation talk? lol

weary fiber
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Love how the DoD basically invented GPS 2.0 and made it exclusive to military applications

tardy badger
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But I’d also argue that the adult film industry has directed a lot of commercial product adoptions

delicate stream
tardy badger
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Yeah

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VHS was more versatile for distributing or recording content

delicate stream
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And cheaper, both in the media and players/recorders

tardy badger
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It’s also why we have Blu-ray and not HD DVD

delicate stream
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I need a LaserDisc player

tardy badger
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Advancements in other entertainment distributions came because of funding from the industry

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Like satellite tv vs cable

tardy badger
delicate stream
tardy badger
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Nice

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That would be pretty cool

delicate stream
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I have great nostalgia for old formats like LaserDisk and 5.25" floppies and 5.25" HDDs

jovial path
delicate stream
# jovial path I mean the protects to collect them in the houses, transport them, keep them, et...

But the problem is that there's no reason, no benefit, to transporting and keeping them. Transportation costs money, and in some places transportation is already expensive and overloaded enough without adding more to the system. Keeping bugs alive and happy would also cost money, and I imagine that it would be money from the pockets of the people having the bugs collected. And then if you did have all these bugs contained somewhere and alive... What do you do with them? Like I said, you don't need tens of thousands or probably into the millions of bugs to do engineering research. There just isn't any value in keeping all those bugs around

jovial path
delicate stream
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but why

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There's no benefit, only drawbacks

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I mean, I prefer not killing things when it can be avoided, but there's no benefit to collecting and storing all pest insects

jovial path
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The main project is not store them, but take all of them out of all the houses in my country safelly, without killing. In a very big, organized and technological way.

delicate stream
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But then you need to spend money transporting and caring for them, it's a resource sink

jovial path
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Art also doesn't bring money, but everyone likes it and eventually we buy it.

tardy badger
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Art brings money if the people controlling art says it can

delicate stream
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Art does bring money, endless bug warehouses do not