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velvet pelican
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I think they will got a few friends that do framing and they said what i have there is overkill

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How much are you trying to downsize nis?

dusty citrus
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I want to go 50 percent but that's a pipe dream. 15 percent'd be a good accomplishment.

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I'm going to have to pay someone to shred documents.

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I have way too much that never got shredded and just takes up storage.

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I bought 60 milk crates (6 gallon crates, rectangular).

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Didn't take long before I had no empties.

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Five orders of one dozen crates. ;)

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I can just about hide five dozen of them from completely taking over the place.

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But a sixth dozen: nope.

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The promise (and theory) was: when I don't need them anymore (some of them, that is) they will be very easy to get rid of .. put them out, someone will take them; tell a friend, they'll come right over to take them away.

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Like that.

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Only oh .. 10 crates? have dense collection of paperwork of any kind, I think.

velvet pelican
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Ive also used a blower in the past and there was no ashes left due to things burning so completely

dusty citrus
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@velvet pelican I can't resort to fires of any kind, here, well within city limits (and other factors) but I do need to solve this. Been meaning to check prices on 'professional' shredding; I think the government also periodically offers some kind of service as well.

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Iron Mountain seems to have retail partners for residential shredding; there's a link to Office Depot, with retail prices, for example (the link takes you to office depot's website, when you click on it from the Iron Mountain page):

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So if I want to stay below the $90 to $120 range I need to do some presorting (which is a time consuming task).

velvet pelican
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Lol i would buy a burn barrel in the country and go camping or make friends with someone that has one.. but i get your point it may cost just as much to do that in the end

dusty citrus
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What are 'friends' again? ;)

cursive mural
dusty citrus
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;)

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I certainly 'have friends' especially ones I haven't heard from in a very long time.

limber jackal
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@dusty citrus - if you look around, there are usually "community shred days", like a churches, community centers, etc. Otherwise, FedEx, UPS, Office* stores, have options. I think typically by the pound

dusty citrus
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@limber jackal Oh thanks!

idle iron
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idle iron
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๐Ÿง no join position?

ocean sigil
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Congratulations NASA! Successful flight of Ingenuity helicopter on Mars! Wow!

jovial swift
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Amazing, can't wait for briefing at 11AM PDT

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How perfect was that altitude profile!

ocean sigil
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That was incredible -- great to see the video as well!

jovial swift
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wish some of my pulses were that square ๐Ÿ™‚

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bandwidth from Mars certainly has improved

ocean sigil
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It was fun to see the control room erupt at the sight of that simple line plot!

jovial swift
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more than any data, eruptions like that tell the tale

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wonder what is used to measure altitude @ 1% earth atmosphere...

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must be mems, don't think there is a radar on board

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notice the landing legs in the corners of that still?

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looks like it went straight up

ocean sigil
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yes -- it will be great to get more details but it sure looked like it performed well.

jovial swift
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I'm sure they'll have more by this afternoons (ET) briefing

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think I'll decline any 2PM meetings at work today ๐Ÿ™‚

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too bad Igor Sikorsky isn't around...

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I know we aren't supposed to get political in here but to my fellow citizens, Democrats didn't just fly a helicopter on Mars, Republicans didn't just fly a helicopter on Mars, Americans just did.

slim shard
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sounds like a roundabout apolitical thing, unless you're hinting the [insert random third party] is responsible :-)

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actually, this is more a score for cellphone powered robots flying on mars, until the robots take over the UN to gain political recognition, apolitical ;-)

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I understand it was designed for 5 flights over about 30 days, and cost $80 million + $5 million anticipated operation costs, or using globally recognized currency units, 1494.6 bitcoin (or 15% the cost of pizza in 2010)

wild temple
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that pizza still hurts my heart

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10000btc for a pizza ...

slim shard
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bitcoin should never have gone this high, transaction fees are unacceptably high, investors have made it into a failed currency

stoic mesa
slim shard
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Take a bow Qualcomm 801-chan!

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hmmm, wanted to talk about how far away we are from personally flying anything over there, but part of a thing flown by humans has been attached to the Ingenuity, I'll leave it to Vision to debate the identity of the original airplane and Ingenuity

zealous ermine
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LETS GOOO

velvet pelican
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@jovial swift got texture paint and almost the entire ceiling done. Man i am sore.

jovial swift
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a lot of overhead work!

zealous ermine
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Good pun

dusty citrus
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I like how you folks hand out credit as if it was your place to do it. ;p

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Obviously it was Jules Verne.

tardy badger
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Itโ€™s the troll coin that will possibly and ironically be the real currency

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Full disclosure I bought 100 DOGE this weekend ๐Ÿคฃ

stoic mesa
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@tardy badger can you buy some pizza with them?

tardy badger
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Lol one day maybe

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Iโ€™m gonna hold on to them until DOGE goes $100+ ๐Ÿ˜‚

wild temple
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he uses me as an example because i paid for my pi stuff with ~0.012 bitcoins, when they were at 13500โ‚ฌ each :/

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now, they went to almost 50000โ‚ฌ each

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o.O the bot ate my message O.o

fluid mirage
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lo

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stray wind
# wild temple o.O the bot ate my message O.o

I think it was the lengthy series of periods. The bot isn't smart, and assumes you're repeating yourself. The bot's there for a reason, but sometimes it gets involved when it shouldn't. Apologies.

wild temple
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oh, that makes sense

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but at least dyno is somewhat sensical

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mee6 gets really annoying sometimes

proven olive
# wild temple mee6 gets really annoying sometimes

Being in a server that uses mee6, I... definitely agree there. Dyno's filters are so much better than mee6's, and also seems to work better at catching more of the obvious "Haha I'm avoiding the filter!" ones. But that said, it's not perfect - obviously!

wild temple
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yes, but hopefully they get better

tawdry reef
zealous ermine
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WHAT

jovial swift
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I wondered what they were using to measure altitude, that woulda been my 14,000th guess...

pearl vigil
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And agreed, I would have thought electrostatic

jovial swift
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surprisingly little dust kicked up by 2500rpm blades

pearl vigil
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Sure, surprising lot of it in the wind, tis mars after all

jovial swift
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speaking of electrostatic, that was an x factor with rotors whirling thru the dry air

pearl vigil
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Hm, interesting. Thats true most electrostatic systems are on fixed wing craft

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Im going to guess thats why

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Plus having a larger surface area for measurement is a plus, and larger gradient between sensors during maneuvers

stoic mesa
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How do you measure altitude using electrostatics?

orchid zephyr
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Maybe atmosphere thickness? Like a lower voltage discharge with a thicker atmosphere? Seems like it would be inaccurate, I doubt that that is how it works.

ancient rivet
limber jackal
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So, just curious about naming things... why are "Time of flight" sensors called so, if they're not actually used for flight?

umbral phoenix
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RF flying in the ethers?

weary fiber
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second draft of my 3D-printable & fully-alignable laser projector assembly!

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blue part is yaw-adjust, yellow part is pitch-adjust

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the L-shaped bit is the mount for the mirror assembly

ancient rivet
limber jackal
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That seems to be a peculiar use of the word "flight" though, doesn't it? Or maybe it's just me?

ancient rivet
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given how crazy fast light is, i'm sure there are "details", but that's the jist

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it's a general term used for any such similar scenario

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what's "flying" doesn't have to be light

limber jackal
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Right, and maybe it's just me, but how often is the travel of light called "flight", as compared to "objects" (larger than photons) which "fly" - plane, bird, Arthur Dent, etc

ancient rivet
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probably a lot of history to the term.

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you want d, so you send out some yellow stuff that moves at c, measure the time t, and do the math

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and the yellow stuff is "flying" between the points

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could also be "traveling", "round trip", etc.

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but someone back in ancient history referred to it as "flight", and the phrase stuck

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the yellow stuff is moving through air ~= "flying" ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

worn pelican
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and can you 3d print in fusion 360

limber jackal
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Fair enough. my brain's "tl;dr" of it is: "Language is weird"

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Thanks for the enlightenment @ancient rivet ๐Ÿ™‚

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(no pun intended, but taken none the less)

ancient rivet
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it is ๐Ÿ™‚

limber jackal
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Seem to be a recurring theme in this channel! lol

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idle iron
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One of my raspberry pi zero's 2306 is dead sparky

heady kindle
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Sooo does this mean we might eventually use find my with BTLE devices like the ESP32? https://9to5mac.com/2021/04/07/apple-officially-opens-find-my-network-to-third-party-products-as-airtags-launch-looms/ making our own custom tags? That would be sweet.

Apple may not have found the right time to launch its long-rumored AirTags locator products yet, but the infrastructure behind the scenes is expanding today. Apple has officially announced the launch of support for using its Find My network with third-party accessories. Find My has historically been used for locating iPhones, iPads, and other Ap...

zealous ermine
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new project

wild temple
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oh, you're making a clock?

zealous ermine
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yes!

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and also a flip slat display cause they are cool

tardy badger
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Without context. I just want to say thank goodness

real falcon
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technology connections video? ๐Ÿ˜‰

tardy badger
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Sure ๐Ÿ™‚

zealous ermine
real falcon
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lol winner

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i love that server

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im also in discord for that

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permission to paste that picture there?

zealous ermine
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yes!

real falcon
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thanks

zealous ermine
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no problem

real falcon
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30 flips?

zealous ermine
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26

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A-Z

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might add more later, but i think this is a good starting point

real falcon
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nice ๐Ÿ™‚

zealous ermine
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it's going to be powered by a 28byj-48 stepper

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and if i'm feeling extra fancy, i'll see if i can get my 4-bit CPU to drive it

real falcon
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๐Ÿ™‚

oblique holly
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Can someone suggest a good multi meter

zealous ermine
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anything by Fluke @oblique holly

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they make good stuff

stoic mesa
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But not cheap

slim shard
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I have one by Amprobe, that I rarely use, but seems to work.

late fulcrum
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Extech, Amecal, and Uni-T make some good cost effective ones. Realistically, even the cheap $10 ones aren't bad (just don't trust them with high voltage or current)

slim shard
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I got a $10 one for the center I work at, it seems to have gone batty (useless readings)

hasty quarry
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Okay, not gonna lie

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This is fun

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I'm enjoying more advanced algebra, I wonder if calculus will kick my butt

slim shard
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2 3, or not 2 3, that is the question

late fulcrum
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I made the mistake of taking calculus before trigonometry. I do not advise that.

hasty quarry
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I'm taking calculus over this summer

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And the syllabus says we'll learn trigonometry in the first half of summer before calculus

late fulcrum
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Ah, so it will be fresh in your mind. That's the way to do it.

slim shard
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Uni-T has the 890D+ for $21, I might get it to complement my $40 meter...

tardy badger
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I have a cheap $10 Craftsman multimeter ๐Ÿ˜…

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Works pretty well

slim shard
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pictures I see at least show it isn't one of those bulk cheapies, I can't measure a battery with the one I have here :-)

grave crest
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I have a handful of Harbor Freight "free after coupon" multimeters. I wouldn't trust them with anything precise, nor anything above 12v -- but yeah, they do the job for basic things or as a sanity check.

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Make no mistake, they're not good by any means. For stuff I care about, out comes the Fluke.

lapis bluff
# hasty quarry

When I saw this I had a flashback to an 8 question test that was going around when I was an undergrad or so (probably mid 70s). It was a multiple choice test that tested your ability to take multiple choice tests. All the actual text of the questions and answers was complete gibberish (but in coherent patterns). I sure wish I could find a copy now, but if it's on the net, my google-foo is not enough to find it.

velvet pelican
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I got a 20 dollar multimeter from Home Depot and it works rather well and doesnโ€™t take oddball batteries

idle iron
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I like my harbor freight multimeter, it does; Lux, dB, TEMP, Hz Duty, and normal multimeter stuff.

grave crest
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@lapis bluff If you can dig that up, or someone can find that, I'd be interested in seeing that.

hasty quarry
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Having trouble telling....what kind of job I'm looking for

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I have skills, certainly, but I'm not sure what exactly to answer that

grave crest
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As much as I'm not a fan of Linkedin, you can always keep it generic.

Are you looking for full time? part time? Internship/co-op?

Which field (IT, engineering, design, etc)?

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Some folks are incredibly specific, and that's fine too ๐Ÿ™‚

hasty quarry
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Well, I'm kind of scared of working in general. Not gonna lie to you. It's scary

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Like, I'm just 16 and all

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I'm so scared of messing things up

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While people depend on me

grave crest
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You've got a lot of time to focus on that. And I won't lie, you'll absolutely 100% mess something up. Just like electronics, you'll let out blue smoke for something -- it's not about doing everything perfectly. It's about how you handle it when things don't.

hasty quarry
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I've learned through my mistakes over and over, but on a job it doesn't feel the same

grave crest
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I see where you're coming from, but learning doesn't stop (or even slow down) once you start collecting a paycheck ๐Ÿ™‚ And if you're in a place where you're not allowed to make a mistake -- ooo. I'd have second thoughts about the culture fit.

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It's one thing to make a mistake, not learn from it, and keep repeating it.

And you'll always find people (in academia, workplace, personal life) who search high and low for you to make a mistake....then hold that one gaff over you forever.

Those people are unkind, and we don't base our life choices from their opinions ๐Ÿ™‚

hasty quarry
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I can agree with that, actually

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The context here is that I got these to show for myself a little bit ago

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And on the page it said I could "Show them on Linked.in" and I was like "Oh, that sounds cool"

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But now I'm being asked some tough questions

grave crest
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Very nice, congrats on earning them. ๐Ÿ†

hasty quarry
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Thank you

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Not sure how valuable they are. For someone with no formal education in these topics I'm sure it shows self interest

grave crest
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Tough questions are good, they make you think. And "I don't know" is always, always a valid answer. And it's 100% fine -- encouraged even -- to change your mind, especially if you learned something new.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds..." ~Emerson

hasty quarry
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Good quote

grave crest
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And as to "how valuable they are" -- I think learning of any kind is valuable -- if it's a badge, certification, formal class, an afternoon deep diving into a project, or just meandering through random topics that catch your attention.

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You made the effort to better yourself. No one can take that away from you.

hasty quarry
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Yeah, but I'm trying to ask it from a more objective standpoint. I didn't study for those at all

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I know what you mean, though, that's true

grave crest
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Objectively -- generally, anything that's a badge/certification isn't a bad thing. At 16, that shows you know something (even if you guessed, you guessed correctly which means you have enough info) -- and it shows you have interest and drive.

I've had job interviews that put down my formal resume, and asked me about personal projects. Like what I did last weekend, or an Eagle Scout project, or why & how I have my own customized domain + email address.

Places are sometimes more concerned with your motivations more than which technical certs you hold. [unless required by the position or by law, of course]

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As time goes on, you'll acquire more formalized certifications for your specialities, if needed or required. I wouldn't worry about that now. But if something catches your fancy, by all means and pursue it.

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....I didn't have anything like those when I was 16.

hasty quarry
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Interesting

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Man, this is so annoying, I don't know what to enter still. Software Developer, Software Engineer, a developer for a specific language?

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Why don't I know the differences between these. Darn it

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I could just say "Developer"

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But then I'd also be willing to do more than what a "Developer" would do. For example, I probably wouldn't mind teaching people

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Even "Developer" feels too specific. I haven't made that decision yet. I thought I had, but now that I'm asked it, I'm frozen

grave crest
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There are differences between those job titles, but in the real world, those lines get blurred.

I wouldn't fret too much about it. Choose something close, and if it comes up in a conversation or a cover letter, you can mention the nuances.

weary fiber
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anyone remember iGoogle?

wild temple
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sorta, wasn't really into it, but was pretty cool

crystal ore
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Back when "competing with Yahoo" was a thing they worried about, heh heh.

umbral phoenix
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Google Reader was the thing, the world changed when that got canned.

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that marked an inflection point from the open internet to the silos we have today

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(oversimplification, of course, a lot corporate strategies were shifting around at that time)

wild temple
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i dont remember google reader, but do remember the annoying ie toolbars, google desktop and messenger

slim shard
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I still miss Wave

dusk oracle
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well i'm glad MS tries to compete

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competition is good

slim shard
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if only MS would compete with itsself. Back in my day when I told a machine to sleep or hibernate it would stay that way until I poked/woke it. Now the stupid things just pop on willy nilly....

wild temple
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that's the network card waking it up

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that happens even on windows xp

slim shard
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sometimes, sometimes it isn't

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for example, in my view, a PC should NEVER wake itsself in hibernate mode

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alas it does on W10

wild temple
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that's because the hybernate is an hybrid between suspending and having a backup of the memory contents into the disk drive

slim shard
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hybrid sleep is a hybrid, plain hibernate isn't

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or at least in my weird wacky world the two don't collide like that

wild temple
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yes, but when you click the "hybernate" button, it does that

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it does the hybrid approach

slim shard
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I've seen that sleep does hybrid automatically, I'd have to relook at explicit hibernate though

wild temple
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its super useful for laptops

slim shard
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it drove me nuts when I'd wake a PC and it'd sleep again in short order, as I figured out later, because its super useful for laptops

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TL;DR I want Microsoft to get off my lawn.

wild temple
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there is a lot to be said about microsoft vs linux

slim shard
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:)

wild temple
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but whichever you pick, you will always choose right and wrong, so

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linux can be very cryptic sometimes

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each distro is a different beast

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even debian detivated distros are super different

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it works better, but when stuff goes belly up, the average person cant fix it

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on the other hand, windows just works

slim shard
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when windows goes belly up, nuke and pave tends to be the only option, or when it slows down over time

wild temple
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the secretary of company xyz will want to turn on the pc, type her document and move on

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and not always

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i have a windows install that started out as windows 8

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then 8.1

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then 10, through 3 different major upgrades

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stuff went belly up a fair bit

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on 2h20 or 20h2 or whatever, the mouse was lagging and the sound was all stuttery, bluescreens everywhere and was unusable

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updated the bios and done, everything works

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not perfectly (that update is crap, 1903 runs much better) but they work

slim shard
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ignoring how quickly web browsers age, its quite nice to have the option to not update on someone elses schedule

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randomly having to wait on an update on shutdown, and occasionally get prodded to set up a MS account on startup, is quite obnoxous

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particularly when it happens to be public guests being asked to set those up.... ... ..

wild temple
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yes, but just ignore it once every year and its "fine"

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but on the other hand

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linux handles a lot better the 50 tabs, 30 documents and all the crap people open and dont close

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as long as it has swap, its happy

slim shard
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I've seen web browsers swapstorm, because apparently they need to touch all their ram most of the time, also I suspect linux support, even for the big free browsers, is secondary

wild temple
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linux support is secundary because the userbase is smaller, because support for linux is secundary

weary fiber
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Wavelength-specific laser goggles are fun to play with

vestal pier
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anyone know where one could buy the bare LED star PCBs?

late fulcrum
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Like Luxeon star style PCBs, but unpopulated? Or something else?

vestal pier
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Yeah, unpopulated star pcbs

late fulcrum
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It wouldn't be tough to just have those made, but it does seem like there would be a ready made supply somewhere. Taobao?

vestal pier
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Good suggestion, I'll check

zealous ermine
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new design!

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I'm going to be using laser cut materials

spice moss
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spaceX crew dragon crew-2 less than 2hour to liftoff

ocean sigil
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They make it look easy... Congratulations SpaceX and NASA

spice moss
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ESA first astronaut with spaceX crew dragon too

spice moss
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soon there is 11 crew members on International spacestation

jovial swift
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Congrats SpaceX & NASA, also to Ingenuity for a successful second flight!

hasty quarry
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I can't tell you how many times I've spoken Spanish to my family or others casually

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And then sat down, and reflected on it, like

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"Man...fluency is so cool"

burnt tendon
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When we were in Prauge and my wife didn't have any sort of grasp on the language for the first time, she looks at me and asks "Wait, is this what it's like for you?"

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(She speaks several languages and I suck at anything other than English)

cursive mural
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I dont know where to put this but can the new Neo Trinky run any kind of block based programming language? Like scratch?

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Can it be used in the maker.make code as the trinket M0?

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Also could you mine crypto on a trinky

wild temple
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you can mine on a gameboy

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but if it is worth it? NOPE

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but you can do it

grave crest
hasty quarry
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Clicked a phishing link out of curiosity

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I died laughing when it took me here

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โ€œPlease verify your age to enter this site. How? By entering your credit card information, obviouslyโ€

wild temple
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the sad thing is that people fall for it

hasty quarry
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Yeah

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Itโ€™s rather convincing, in the shoes of someone unknowledgeable

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Itโ€™s strange though

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If a bartender asked for your credit card to verify your age, youโ€™d be extremely confused

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It just doesnโ€™t make sense

tardy badger
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Made a simple little pinout card to go in with CP Saplings when I sell them

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It needs some improvement but I have time for that still

limber jackal
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Nice!

lapis bluff
crystal ore
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I vote B. The A and B options are similar to each other, so they probably include the correct answer plus a decoy. And "ambil" is too close to "embel", so it's unlikely to be correct, leaving B as the most likely option.

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Actually, I'm changing my answer to A. The question ends with "an", so the correct continuation has to start with a vowel.

stoic mesa
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"Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe"

lapis bluff
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Right the second time. All the not-really-a-word things were completely made up on the fly as I was typing. I probably should have done a once over for similarity, since that was the trick on one of the other questions.

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But the one where similarity was the point was much more similar. The question part had an obvious noun and obvious verb, and the right answer just verbed the noun and nouned the verb. (IIRC)

storm pewter
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DaBaby convertible

spice moss
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soon as hatch opening is next on crew2 mission the spacestation have 11 crew members

slim shard
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...but a penguin has hitched a ride...

spice moss
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zero G indicator penguin yeah

slim shard
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it breathes, do they have the oxygen to survive? or am I trying too hard for a weak joke?

tardy badger
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So a thought that might make you think differently about the origin of the universe.

We know that black holes exist and that basically nothing escapes the monumental grasp of a black hole SIC gamma radiation spray.

Overtime as black holes feed, they accrue mass. But at what point does a black hole become so incredibly massive and dense that it collapses?

From what we understand about the origin of the universe, we started at a singly massive singularity event where ALL the mass of our known universe existed. So how did it obtain this mass? Well... I would posit that the mass singularity event was in fact a super massive black hole that collapsed on itself spewing matter at increasing rates of acceleration.

I assume but canโ€™t prove per say what happens when matter is consumed by a black hole. But assuming the massive gravity and pressure reduces material down to base materials for elements, initial collapse would provide enough reason to think the release of pressure would reform our elements, thus creating a means for new stars, galaxies, planets, etc.. to form.

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All of this happening endlessly over time

crystal ore
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One correction is that a black hole basically starts out already "collapsed". It's the end point of some other object like the core of a massive star, which already got so big that it couldn't hold up its own weight, and collapsed into a black hole, with associated singularity.

tardy badger
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Iโ€™m sure other people have thought of this before

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But we donโ€™t know what happens when a black hole gets too big

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Weโ€™ve never see it happen

crystal ore
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So far as we know, there's no "too big" for a black hole, since it's already as collapsed as anything can get.

tardy badger
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I donโ€™t think we will ever see what happens when a black hole gets too big

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And I donโ€™t think we can definitely say they canโ€™t get too big either

crystal ore
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That being said, the overall idea that the singularity inside a black hole might be the seed for a Big Bang of a new universe has been tossed around before. We just don't have the physics to really understand that sort of process yet.

tardy badger
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Because our knowledge and ability to deduce outcomes is limited by what we can observe

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Yeah, very true

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Our physics standard model is on the verge of being rewritten

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Or so popular mechanics and a number of journal articles tend to suggest

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Apparently in 2008 a Yale study concluded that there is an upper limit to black hole size

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Suggesting that is about 10 billion times the mass of our sun

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This based on the study of radiation streams coming from black homes compared to the mass intake of said black holes

crystal ore
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Ah, that's a bit different, yeah. It's not that the hole itself gets to some maximum size, it's just that the mass-accretion process gets less efficient.

tardy badger
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The study suggested that the amount of radiation release would ultimately disrupt the intake of mass around it which would slow the growth as it became more massive

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But it looks like quasar TON-618 has an estimated mass of 66 billion times our solar mass

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Itโ€™s the largest black hole weโ€™ve observed

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So kind of 6.6x larger than that 10 billion times figure from 2008

crystal ore
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There'd be nothing stopping two 10-billion holes from potentially merging into one 20-billion hole, for instance.

tardy badger
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They say there isnโ€™t really a chance if a runaway mass event for a black hole since generally galaxies are moving apart

grave crest
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Just a heads up - the nordic ppk2 low power board is back in stock at Digikey.

32 in stock. Wait...31 after my order ๐Ÿ˜‰

tardy badger
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Lol

limber jackal
tardy badger
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๐Ÿ˜†

limber jackal
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Not that anything like that has EVER happened to me, or learned from experience

grave crest
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Hahaha....I've done both -- "oops, too much" and "oh drats oops, I didn't get enough or forgot to apply a coupon."

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But anywho, I know some folks were looking for the Nordic PPK2, and it's been out of stock for ages.

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[I've been looking through the past chats, because I recall someone was very much looking for one, but I can't find it ... so hopefully they see this before it's too late ๐Ÿ™‚ ]

velvet pelican
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Last weekend

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This weekend

tardy badger
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This is really nice

wild temple
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that looks really amazing

velvet pelican
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Im sore from it. Still have flooring and trims to do. And thanks all

limber jackal
weary fiber
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In my freshman electronics class, I was assigned the project of โ€œmake a too cold/perfect/too hot temperature reader that only turns on when itโ€™s exposed to lightโ€

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And the project has pretty limited parts available

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This is what I could come up with

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I'm gonna put it in LTSpice tomorrow, this is basically a napkin estimate

spice moss
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i got vaccine

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first dose

limber jackal
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Glad to hear it @spice moss. Hope the side effects are mild to non-existant for you!

spice moss
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well i have other things so pfizer sideeffects are like what are those

weary fiber
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what an absolute madlad

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(fr tho, madbodger is a great guy & they've helped me out with a number of projects in the past)

burnt tendon
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So, funny story. A long time ago, I had some friends over and they tried to sailor moon shame me. Because there was, in our rack of DVD's, one of the Sailor Moon collections. And they were all like "Well, that's your wife's sailor moon DVD's aren't them?"

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Obv you can't marry the sort of sailor moon fan who has artbooks and the DVDs without picking some up, but this definitely meant that I needed to watch every single episode of Sailor Moon which, because I can't sit still, has taken years.

weary fiber
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Sailor Moon pops off though

burnt tendon
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A friend has an amazing Sailor Jupiter cosplay with LEDs and I would have photographed it by now except for plague.

weary fiber
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Please do get a pic sometime! I'm desperate to start putting lights & electronics into cosplay, but I'm kinda running low on inspiration ;;

burnt tendon
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YAH!

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It's sad because light-up cosplays are hard to photograph so even if you get the cosplay going, getting a good photo isn't always easy.

static flare
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I'm planning a light up cosplay for PAX this year! I'm very excited

weary fiber
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anthro fox linux mascot

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anthro fox linux mascot

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:DDD

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fr though I loved that design & it's so rare to see people who even know what it is lmaoo

static flare
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yeeeeeee

burnt tendon
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There's probably an alternative quantum reality universe where the anthro fox was the mascot instead of tux and it's probably a better one. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

static flare
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Literally where I got my name from

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I go by Xenia myself, Xee or Z for short

burnt tendon
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Ooooh yay!

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I know multiple Adas and this brings me much joy.

static flare
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Nice!

static flare
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I'm ashamed I haven't gotten more into Linux

burnt tendon
static flare
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I'm mostly going to get into it using my Raspberry Pi

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I have a project using it I want to do, but I just wish I could find a way to integrate a cassette deck into a project easily without getting a cheapo one from eBay or Amazon

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have been told I have an old soul

late fulcrum
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I've been eyeing one of the miniature cassette decks that were used for dictation.

static flare
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I have a micro-cassette recorder! I like the sound they have, because of the size of the tapes and the limits of the format

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Planning on using it to add the right sound to music

late fulcrum
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Good use of the medium!

static flare
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I'm gonna use it to add purposeful degradation to my music! Might find a way to make the project I'm building a MIDI controller, as a fun side part to it

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I love electronics and music and I really want to combine the two

burnt tendon
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I know too many people who are doing homebrew musical things. I'm eventually going to succumb to temptation and make something.

zealous ermine
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another update!

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changed the design (again)

burnt tendon
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Hm, so Google indicates that most folks have been using regular sized cassettes so now I wonder what a tape echo made out of a micro-cassette recorded would be like.

late fulcrum
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Or build one out of a wire recorder

burnt tendon
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That would be eerily on-brand for me.

zealous ermine
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micro cassettes are neat

limber jackal
tardy badger
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radio heads are in tune with who they are

zealous ermine
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the puns...

tardy badger
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wire heads, they need to be induced ๐Ÿ˜›

limber jackal
tardy badger
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my roles.. they won't show or tell you very much

burnt tendon
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Well, clearly I don't want to be too helpful lest I lose my punster role in favor of something more important.

limber jackal
zealous ermine
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i applaud you

tardy badger
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QtPy sandwich

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honestly, this gives me an idea lol

static flare
zealous ermine
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yes!

static flare
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I love them!

zealous ermine
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yeah they are very cool, too bad they are so expensive

burnt tendon
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They represent a real turning point for digital displays tho

zealous ermine
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so i decided to build one myself

static flare
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I've seen a heap about them recently

zealous ermine
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yeah they are making somewhat of a resurgence

late fulcrum
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I love 'em too

static flare
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oooh

zealous ermine
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you have one?

static flare
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I personally don't, sadly

late fulcrum
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I've got a few, along with a couple of the control boxes

zealous ermine
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nice!

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what CPU do the control boxes use

late fulcrum
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No CPU, all electromechanical โ€“ these are old

static flare
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ooh

zealous ermine
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ahh, very cool!

static flare
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I'm curious to see how big practically the memory in a Feather 32u4 is, for programs and such, would it be possible to fill up the memory and if needed would it be possible to add more

late fulcrum
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It's not a lot of memory, and it's not difficult to use it all up (without even trying). Adding more is not easy.

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You can add an SD card or flash chip, but those aren't like RAM, more like a filesystem.

static flare
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:/ well thats fun

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I wanted to use it to get data from peripherals and display them on an LCD so I could offload the programs and processing to the peripherals and use the 32u4 just to control the LCD and read button presses and the heartrate sensor... Might actually be good to get something for logging the data on the sensor...

late fulcrum
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A 32U4 can do that, depending on the LCD, sensors, and libraries used.

drowsy light
limber jackal
spice moss
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@limber jackal think my second dose of pfizer is on 26th of july

limber jackal
spice moss
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all the pfizer sideeffects, all i can sense is some warmer headache than usual

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as normally i have those sideeffects what pfizer give as normally so too

limber jackal
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Doesn't sound pleasant, but fortunately, not too bad either

spice moss
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I felt that warmer neck area and back of the head after shot without those effects what i got that feeling too so luckily i have the mRNA than those other way

static flare
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i can't get the jab until at the earliest like... January next year it's predicted

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we're going really slowly here on it

spice moss
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well some say they got tinnitus after second dose of pfizer but was it time also what affect to it but for me it was after 84days from first but still I have had tinnitus from younger age it comes and goes

stoic mesa
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@static flare where are you?

dapper hatch
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I see some chatter on side affects from covid jabs. I've had my second jab a week ago. The affects I had were less than the first jab. Just felt a bit under the weather for a few days. I have CF and so living in the UK meant I got it early. I also get Flu jabs every year and Pneumonia jabs every five years. The affects I have had from the covid jab are very similar to what I have had in the past for other jabs and don't concern me at all. Not sure how many of you normally get Flu jabs, from my experience is all normal and expected.

stuck moth
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I got pfizer two days ago and just have a sore arm and a bit of redness

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(first dose)

dapper hatch
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Going to give it another week then hair cut time! ๐Ÿ™‚ Normally I have my hair cut to number 2 (very short), helps me to optimise my time in the bath. Hair auto drys. But currently it's way down my back and I hate it. Getting it cut is my independence day ๐Ÿ™‚

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Been nearly 16 months since last cut.

spice moss
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i got some headache with warm feeling nothing more right now

grave crest
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First jab of Moderna wasn't too bad. Mild localized tenderness, about 36 hours of very mild body aches, tiredness, and hot/cold feeling. Slept for most of it, stayed hydrated.

I've had worse aches from head colds. Perfect opportunity to take the day off, watch some TV/play some games/read a book. Catch up on some rest ๐Ÿ™‚

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And such reactions are actually good -- means you're developing an immune response. Some folks develop an immune response that's not as apparent either, and that's fine too ๐Ÿ™‚

umbral phoenix
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There seems to be a lot of variance in side effects. I didn't notice much after dose 1, but slept in the next day. Got dose 2 last Friday morning, had strong side effects Friday evening and all Saturday, easing a lot Sunday, mostly gone by Monday. (Pfizer)

grave crest
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Seems to be the case from my observations too -- family got Moderna and Pfizer, and it was a mixed bag ranging from nothing to pretty strong.

I figure, it's better than the alternative.

wild temple
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im actually scared of the pfizer vaccine

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did they say anything about the blood clots on the other vaccine?

spice moss
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mRNA is different what pfizer and moderna use so its better as this seems to go more wider range than what using adenovirus delivery method do what is linked to blood cloths

tardy badger
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It was a very rare allergic reaction

spice moss
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astra and jj and more covid vaccine use the old method for delivery

tardy badger
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Iโ€™ll probably opt for J&J because I have a history of vaccine reactions and Iโ€™d like to reduce the risk to just one shot

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Though admittedly I do like the mRNA method better. I just wish it could be done with one shot

spice moss
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where i got warm first was there where blood cloths happen so it would be different as better in wide range

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yeah oneshot would be great

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but hey its first time mRNA tech used

tardy badger
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Yeah

spice moss
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well its good that those blood cloth cases comes so medical science and engineer start to think of delivery methods

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on this week in science when JJ had those as astra had cases so something common of delivery way was think what should we do in the future of vaccine delivery

wild temple
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i mean, the janson vaccine, according to what ive read, it had caused very few blood clots

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i am fine with those odds

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the pfizer vaccine caused 2 deaths in around 42000-43000 tests done

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that is scary to me

spice moss
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think it also that you have blood cloth risk?

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without vaccine

wild temple
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good question

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but im fine with the risk of the janson one

spice moss
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some of that risk comes from your DNA so it can come from your blood line

wild temple
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i honestly have absolutely no idea

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i am licky enough to have avoided the need for any medical treatment

dapper hatch
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@spice moss On April 3rd the BBC reported that In the UK 30 people out of 18 million vaccinated had an issue with blood clots. The numbers here are so low it would be fair to ask would they have developed them anyway. Remember, correlation is not causation. ๐Ÿ™‚ Last time I checked the US numbers it was quite literally one in a million chance. At the same time I read here in the UK 33% of people admitted to hospital with covid developed some kind of blood clot. To me the choice is clear. But of cause it is a personal choice. I know one person that has a very real phobia of hospitals and jabs of any kind.

spice moss
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@dapper hatch also what is measured on it as there isnt global wide baseline what is measured for it

dapper hatch
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Yes, there is so much to learn from this virus. I've still not heard any reasonable explanation why some have no symptoms and others have it really bad. A friends daughter had covid for a month, took another two months to get over it. Shes 21 and as fit as a butchers dog.

spice moss
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countries have different metrics for it

static flare
limber jackal
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One possibility, about the blood clots, is if people have been much more sedentary the past year, particularly working from home, or reduced physical activity, that DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) could have been a factor. That's the thing - we really can't tell if it's any of the external factors, the vaccine alone, a combination, or even just a genetic predisposition, or combination.

tardy badger
static flare
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I mean, I have an increased risk naturally of DVT so that's fun

burnt tendon
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At least the plus side of things there is that at least Australia is an island and therefore y'all have not had nearly the degree of biblical plague we've had in north america.

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But, like, the mRNA thing is absolutely fascinating to me because both it's silly and absurd that a little strand of genetic material wrapped in some lipids is all you need but also because it's the closest thing to Dr. McCoy or Dr. Crusher whipping up a cure within the confines of a 60 minute TV show episode we've yet achieved.

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"island"

spice moss
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with mRNA what a modern computing power can help to get that development faster

burnt tendon
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Yeah, that's what's so science fiction about it.

static flare
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Yeah, but the issue is that we're currently really disconnected from everything else and I have a partner in the Phillipines I really want to visit but I can't

stray wind
static flare
stray wind
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That's rough.

static flare
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yeah...

real falcon
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in least using video phone calls to see each other?

static flare
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yeah, we do

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she's busy with her college work a lot sadly

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so I don't see her a lot

real falcon
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yeah. in least can see each other once a while though ๐Ÿ˜„

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15 years ago would be able to send pictures but essentally all

static flare
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yeah... if it weren't for the internet we never would have met

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She does digital art, she actually did the art I put on my PCBs

real falcon
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๐Ÿ™‚

static flare
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a little obscured by the cap hole whoops

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that's better

burnt tendon
#

Yah. I miss my best friend besides my spouse really bad but that's still not quite the same.

static flare
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we were planning to see each other again in June last year but that fell through obviously

burnt tendon
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Yah, I figure I can't get my quarantine hair whacked until she's had a chance to do something silly with it.

tardy badger
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i gave my wife two hair cuts since covid

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one was just a trim a few months back

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and then i also cut her hair the other night. did an under cut that she wanted to try and it came out pretty good. i'm still alive so i'm guessing she still loves it

burnt tendon
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It might have been a close shave tho

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I dono, my wife doesn't mind it that much as long as I put it in a ponytail and hers just keeps getting longer and I feel like I'd probably just make it worse.

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A friend from high school's dad was a rock'n'roll drummer in the 60s.. his band opened for Jefferson Airplane.. and then he went professional and opened a pizza restaurant and when he did, he cut off his ponytail and kept it in a bag.

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I'm basically daring fate that I won't have enough hair to keep the ponytail.

static flare
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my roommate has dyed my hair but other than that i haven't had it cut in like, over a year and a half

tardy badger
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my wife cuts my hair every few months

burnt tendon
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Also, I'm trying to see if I can make it through quarantine on a single ponytail holder.

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I'm probably approaching the year-and-a-half mark.

static flare
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I wanna grow out my hair, I had to cut my hair short as a kid but now I'm older I can do what I like

burnt tendon
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Totally! It's your hair, you get to do what amuses you most with it.

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I didn't intend to have a ponytail for the first time in my life, but I'm amused it happened.

static flare
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yee! I love how free I feel about my look now I'm out and transitioning

tardy badger
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i cut my hair short

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but i have always had shorter hair and never looked terribly great with long hair

burnt tendon
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I had a vague mullet in high school. It wasn't good, mostly because mullet.

tardy badger
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people are trying to bring mullets back

burnt tendon
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I'm not signed on to this mailing list and don't want to be.

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Although if they brought back 80s teased big hair, I'd be OK with it.

static flare
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Mullets are a big thing here

burnt tendon
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Yah, like my friend from the early days of the Internet in Australia seems to have me thinking that Australia kinda wants to be more like the US in the worst possible ways.

static flare
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y e a h :/

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our PM is an evangelical Christian

burnt tendon
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Yeah, and that can't be good for trans rights, given what they've been doing here. :/

static flare
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Yeah :/ an senator is trying to get all LGBT issues banned from discussion in schools completely

real falcon
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jeez

static flare
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yeah, he's fun

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it would also stop schools and school councillors affirming trans kids

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Oh sorry, it's aimed specifically at trans and gender diverse people, not all of the LGBT community

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One fun part of it is this:
The Bill requires schools to present discredited counter narratives when teaching classes like science or history.ย ย For example, discussing creationism when teaching evolution, raising anti-vaccination theories when teaching about immunisation, or raising racist ideologies to explain the over representation of First Nations people in prison.

burnt tendon
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Yeah, and it's always the thin end of the wedge. Not enough people get angry over trans rights specifically so they then use that to glob more onto it. I compensate by getting rapidly angry about trans issues these days.

static flare
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Yeah :/

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Okay huh it wasn't just a glitch

burnt tendon
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Also, can't have electronics without Lynn Conway.

static flare
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I love hearing about trans people in tech, it's always inspiring to hear about, considering I want to be a trans person in tech myself

burnt tendon
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Well, Coraline Ada created the Contributor Covenant that is on all of the Adafruit github repos.

static flare
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:D

static flare
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Fran Blanche was the first trans woman in tech I knew about, she's lovely from what I've seen

burnt tendon
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I didn't realize she was a trans woman in tech actually.

short pulsar
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Spent all day trying to get a code package to build. Dependency this, install old version that, hack this Makefile, change this #define. And arrived at same point where I started, with nothing built. Is this the life of a coder trying to install code?

static flare
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gdi my computer just randomly bluescreens

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it's been happening a lot

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and it happened again

burnt tendon
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Well, on the bright side, once you switch over to Linux it won't bluescreen.

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....it'll kernel panic.

static flare
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i don't even know what's wrong

slim shard
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could probably patch linux to bluescreen of you miss it, that would be a funny patch

stoic mesa
slim shard
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smells like the xscreensaver module

stoic mesa
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something like that

slim shard
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I don't use it as much as I'd like, worried someone would restart my workstation

burnt tendon
#

For a period of time, I totally had a random set of xscreensaver hacks on my computer and it was great because the bsod would pick a random smattering of operating systems and literally every operating system I'd ever used would have me cursing at it.

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Like, I'd get the Amiga Guru Meditation and I'd cuss even though I haven't used one in decades.

wild temple
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in short, you pranked yourself?

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and you fell for it everytime?

polar bloom
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Oh man I would freak out if the screen suddenly went black and a red bar at the top starting blinking at me.

wild temple
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to be honest, i probably would feel my heart drop to the stomach

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i already had 1 gpu die on me

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getting one at this time would be a nightmare

tardy badger
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The fact that you can ping another network device and not get pong back is probably the reason our world is crumbling today

wild temple
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receiving a pong would mean wasting 4 bytes :x

burnt tendon
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It stopped being legit network advice um like maybe 2 decades ago, give or take a few years?

wild temple
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yes, when pcs were tanks

polar bloom
static flare
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I haven't!

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I'm really glad to be learning more about trans people in tech!

polar bloom
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She's one of the inventors of the ARM processor, so that's a pretty big deal.

static flare
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Yeah!

burnt tendon
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Also, Wendy Carlos.

static flare
#

:0

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Honestly, thank you all so much for highlighting these wonderful women ๐Ÿ’œ

burnt tendon
#

Also, like more recently, Kris Nรณva has had a giant impact on the kubernetes world.

late fulcrum
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Fran Blanche comes to mind as well

burnt tendon
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Also, Liz Fong-Jones in the SRE world.

polar bloom
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Someone else from the pioneering days of computer games is Danielle Bunten, who designed the classic game M.U.L.E.

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Once lockdowns etc are over, I suggest going to tech conferences and meetups. You'll meet plenty of trans people there.

static flare
static flare
burnt tendon
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I mean, at least some of the better tech conferences have made efforts to set up programs to bring people from under-represented groups to come to the conference.

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Because there's a lot of person-to-person networking that happens at a tech conference beyond just sitting for the talks and the virtual conferences are great but it's still really hard for them to do that person-to-person networking in the same way.

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Also, we've got our very own Stargirl with her amazing set of synth projects.

static flare
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Ooh, synths! I've always had my eye on them, as a musical girl myself, especially how to generate audio, but I've never gotten around to actually figuring out how to do that

burnt tendon
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OMG, Stargirl has absolutely amazing write ups on her blog.

static flare
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ooh, i totally will at a not 4am time

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especially with my massive headache rn

limber jackal
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That's what browsers with 100s of tabs and oodles of RAM are for!

hasty quarry
slim shard
#

SpaceX is targetingย Wednesday, April 28ย for launch of 60 Starlink satellites from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The instantaneous window is at 11:44 p.m. EDT,ย or 3:44 UTC on Thursday, April 29.

The Falcon 9 first stage rocket booster supporting this mission previously supported launch of GPS ...

โ–ถ Play video
sharp grove
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hey it works

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shame all the analog tv stations got shut down a long time ago

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if i tried to broadcast my own the FCC would send their headhunters after me

slim shard
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broadcast on 2.4GHz :-)

sharp grove
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oops no wifi

slim shard
#

honestly don't know the channel width on analog tv

static flare
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i have a CRT that size (just the tube and driver board)

sharp grove
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I want to use the tube for something but something tells me if i pull the tube out I'll end up never getting it to work again

static flare
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you'd just need to know where to plug the right signals in, and remove it without damaging anything

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Also discharge the crt first

slim shard
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flyback capacitor? or does the tube also hold charge?

late fulcrum
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Many CRTs have a conductive coating on the inside connected to the second anode and the screen aluminization, and a conductive coating on the outside, generally grounded, to use the CRT glass as a capacitor dielectric for a high voltage filter capacitor. That thick glass dielectric can hold charge for weeks.

slim shard
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there is no "the more you know" emoji available....

late fulcrum
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I have a fondness for small CRTs

slim shard
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๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ โญ The More You Know.... :-)

real falcon
#

i saw video of someone making really small crt tube. it was size of flat side of regular pen

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i couldnt find it since

slim shard
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hmm, I recall there were portable tubes

late fulcrum
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I think I've seen that one, a cold cathode one

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To give an idea of the scale of that 2" Sanyo receiver

crystal ore
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I think there were some small tubes used as camcorder viewfinders, for instance.

late fulcrum
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The center TV in the top photo uses one of the viewfinder tubes as a small direct-view CRT. It's also on the left of this pic, showing the lense that it came with to make its 1-inch CRT look like a 2-inch one.

real falcon
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drat hoped one of you guys knew about that tiny crt project lol

static flare
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so I've been told, at the least

late fulcrum
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They are cute little CRTs

static flare
#

I'm just perpetually afraid of accidentally potentially killing myself with the one I have... is that a big risk?

late fulcrum
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The little one? Those only run on about 600 volts.

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The bigger ones have higher voltage. There are procedures to safely discharge them so you can work on them without getting zapped.

wild temple
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are those crts the ones inside a camera's viewfinder?

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the tiny tiny ones

stoic mesa
#

I think we as a community should apply.

grave crest
#

@limber jackal By the way, I nabbed a Keychron C1 with a wood wrist rest -- red keys, white backlight. โŒจ๏ธ

limber jackal
grave crest
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In my hands right now

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It's much different than my laptop's keyboard (Macbook Pro 16) and the external Apple wired keyboards I have (the slim profile ones).

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I think I need to force myself to use it for a week before I pass judgement on it, because I'm so ingrained in what I've been using.

limber jackal
#

Oh yeah, that's a MASSIVE change in format. Hands and muscle memory are stubborn

grave crest
#

What started this was getting an Anker (I think? Maybe something similar) mechanical keyboard on Amazon. Then Walmart had a few Razer mech keyboards on a fire sale (normally $60/100/150.....marked down to $10-13.)

Thing is, none of them hit the spot. Too big -- like a surfboard. Too inconsistent of a feel (the spacebar sounded like a baseball bat hitting a 55 gallon barrel's worth of bubble wrap....but the other keys were quiet). Another had green backlighting that wouldn't turn off. They're great backup keyboards in a pinch -- certainly better than the "free included with computer" boards.

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But the little voice in my head said "you need to get something decent."

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plus the mac keyboards are starting to fail after a decade of service, for one reason or another. which is fair.

short pulsar
#

After a day of finagling, I finally vanquised my make file and it compiles! Just the same as it did before I rearranged everything. Gotta break (and fix) things to make them better organized...

limber jackal
grave crest
#

That's what got my attention with Keychron -- they have a mac & windows physical switch. That was very nice to see.

For my windows boxed, the wired apple keyboard works -- even if the windows/alt keys are incorrect. A small concession I can make.

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And I use both platforms about equally, so....I wouldn't mind something I could use everywhere

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From my initial use -- the reds trigger with far less force than I'm used to using

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Though i bottom out the MBP 16 & apple keyboards 100% of the time, as they're a super thin chiclet-style

zealous ermine
#

:)

stoic mesa
#

@zealous ermine hope it is not your car

zealous ermine
#

Its my dads car

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:(

stoic mesa
#

โ˜น๏ธ
at least no one hurt?

zealous ermine
#

No one was hurt

midnight tree
dusty citrus
#

Finally found out they have a waiting list for covid shots where you get to stay in your car, in places that don't normally do this. ;)

limber jackal
#

Common sense prevails! Hopefully you've been able to sign up for that list

dusty citrus
#

I'm dragging my feet, but it's got to happen pretty soon.

dusk oracle
#

@late fulcrum Here i can agree with madbodger small crt's are a vision to see in action.
The green florescent glow of glass tubes and the distinct sound the EHT makes

static flare
#

I really should find a way to mount mine in a case and experiment with it

late fulcrum
#

I couldn't resist this rack mount array of 7 CRT scopes on eBay

delicate stream
#

it's beautiful!

stoic mesa
#

looking at one of the repos in github i plan to fork, found this

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@copyright MIT Lesser General Public License

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๐Ÿ˜†

delicate stream
#

Lesser? Is it less important?

stoic mesa
#

there is a real license LGPL which at different times meant either Lesser or Library

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it does differ from usual GPL

real falcon
#

theres site that have basics on all those licenses

stoic mesa
#

There is also MIT. license

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but MIT and LGPL are two very different licenses

delicate stream
#

hmm

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hybrid license? lol

stoic mesa
#

and MIT Lesser GPL never existed

stoic mesa
#

does it mean i am free to choose whatever clauses i like from these two licenses?

real falcon
#

think so, currently too tired to really think

static flare
#

the only other CRTs i have are an array of 3 medium sized ones

delicate stream
#

I have various computer CRTs and a couple TVs still

late fulcrum
#

I may have a bit of a problem...

delicate stream
#

I see no problem here

static flare
#

I need to get a proper colour CRT at some point, I wanna get into NES Tetris

delicate stream
#

hehe

late fulcrum
#

I do, however, get around to using them eventually

delicate stream
#

I love tubes

late fulcrum
#

That makes two of us...

static flare
#

Although, I'd never get into any tournaments or anything, my coordination isn't great, and also PAL is a lot more common here over NTSC, which the standard tournaments use

delicate stream
#

I'm not great at Tetris either XD but it is fun

late fulcrum
#

I did buy a PAL-NTSC converter as one of the games I wanted to play was only available in English in PAL (there is a Japanese NTSC version, however)

static flare
#

yeah! and im really interested in the challenges that NES Tetris brings over a modern version

delicate stream
#

Is NES Tetris a lot different than Game Boy Tetris?

static flare
#

Japan is weird when it comes to both power and TV stuff

delicate stream
#

yeah

static flare
#

And yeah

delicate stream
#

hmm... I need to get NES Tetris

static flare
#

Although, it's why some older japanese stuff is more usuable than other similar era stuff from other places

late fulcrum
#

There are special argon ion laser tubes made for the Japanese market, which can operate on lower voltage than the common ones designed for 120V or 230V mains.

static flare
#

cough cough US cough cough

delicate stream
#

lasers!

static flare
#

Lasers are fun

late fulcrum
#

Agreed!

delicate stream
#

Indeed

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ohhh, pretty

limber jackal
delicate stream
#

Organization hard

limber jackal
delicate stream
#

That's kinda what I do XD but bins seem more effective

static flare
#

I find the small storage containers with the segments (difficult to say with words) to be helpful

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thing I have the resistors in (thats from when I bought 192 resistors in packs of 8)

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A digikey order would have been cheaper but Jaycar was easier

delicate stream
#

These are also good

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I don't use the ones I have though XD

late fulcrum
#

I've gone this route, with partial success

static flare
delicate stream
static flare
#

Hah, I can buy 5000 of the resistors I wanted for about $30

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Which is about how much I paid for 300

delicate stream
#

noice

static flare
#

honestly, i feel a little annoyed at myself

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sixteen times the resistors

limber jackal
#

Sometimes, you see an offer you just can't resist

delicate stream
#

At least you didn't buy 5 for $10

static flare
#

gdi

static flare
delicate stream
static flare
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I bought 38 sets

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The first 14, then an extra 24

delicate stream
#

I have, on occasion, purchased things at much higher prices for convenience... like, 10 for $15 of something that's usually like 20 for $20, if the higher count isn't available and I need it now, or if it's brick and mortar and I can't wait for shipping

static flare
#

that's basically been what i've done

delicate stream
#

Unrelated: Adafruit breadboard PSU drops the raw voltage into one set of rails, which is like 20v for the adaptor I'm using... so in order to keep myself from exploding something, I covered those rails in Gaff tape XD

static flare
#

yeah, i saw that

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i was a little confused as to why

delicate stream
#

Yeah, I'd imagine having the regulated on both sides would be more useful

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Unless you're using, say, a 12v adapter and need 12v and 3.3v/5v/other lower voltage

late fulcrum
#

For some projects, I'll use the low current regulated voltages for the logic, and the high current higher voltage unregulated power to run loads like lights and motors.

delicate stream
#

Hmmm.... dual regulated breadboard PSU? that'd be cool

velvet pelican
#

Do not plug the blue zone into the red zone

tardy badger
#

But get in the zone, autozone

short pulsar
#

Took me half a day to realize 0x0F is 0x00001111 and not 0x11111111. ๐Ÿคฆ

delicate stream
#

Oopsโ€ฆ

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I think we all do things like that, lol

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Table + table + table == shelves!

late fulcrum
#

Sometimes sign extension can add more 1 bits than you expect

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Are those "Lack" tables? They're popular for 3D printer enclosures.

delicate stream
#

Yes they are! $5 each, Iโ€™ve gotten 12 so far!

delicate stream
burnt tendon
#

I'm deeply disappointed that they theorized it instead of doing it.

delicate stream
#

SI machines are hard to get, lol

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My halogen lights do thisโ€ฆ any idea why?

real falcon
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dunno, but may be nearing burnout

delicate stream
#

I think it might be thermal? It happens after a while, gets progressively worse with on time, and resets after cooldown

real falcon
#

that is possible. check case temperate around it as its flickering

delicate stream
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Gotta fix my CAT phone, lol

tardy badger
#

Facebook Reminded me that Osama Bin Laden was killed by US Special Forces 10 years ago

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To this day

mortal oar
wild temple
slim shard
delicate stream
#

I keep thinking about buying a thermal printer but I have 0 reasons other than I want one

polar bloom
#

Very old school tech those thermal printers, I remember by friend having one in 1986 or so.

delicate stream
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Yeah, and still incredibly common. I love old school tech that sticks around forever

delicate stream
#

Toys for the sake of toys XD

static flare
#

i literally had to tell the person i was on call with when i first saw them to firmly tell me not to get one otherwise i totally would

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I'm not the most model example, considering I bought 10 NeoTrinkeys just so I had 10 of them

delicate stream
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lol

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I'm buying 1 Neo Trinky just to have them... but the printer is a lot more money

static flare
#

that's valid

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I wanted to potentially add it to a project but then I decided that was a little much

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but now I'm considering it again

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for cons and such

delicate stream
#

Plus the printer consumes over time, Neo Trinky does not consume anything, therefore lifetime cost is only the initial investment cost

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The Neo Trinky or the printer? lol

static flare
#

The printer

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Print off business cards and the like

#

it definitely would be noteworthy

delicate stream
#

Ah... There are some cool projects with the printer, like basically a Pi powered polaroid instant camera, but I can imagine building it, taking a few pictures, then never using it again

static flare
#

I wonder what the character width is

delicate stream
#

I think it's variable? \

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It'll do 3 text sizes too, as well as graphics

static flare
#

just curious to see if i could fit 20 characters across

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i could use this to print out stuff for a project

delicate stream
#

Looks like 30+?

static flare
#

I have a 20x4 LCD I'd print off of anyhow

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(like, what I'd print)

delicate stream
#

I think you could easily print anything you'd put on that LCD, lol

burnt tendon
#

Honestly, I keep feeling like what I really want to do is to get a dot matrix printer.

delicate stream
#

Mmmmm, good ol' dot matrix...

delicate stream
#

How many NeoPixels would be equivalent to a 60w lightbulb?

flat elbow
#

Random q - Why don't all GPU manufacturers water cool their GPUs by default? Wouldn't that let them all report better performance numbers they can brag about?

delicate stream
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Water cooling isn't as simple and robust as air cooling -- pumps in the AIO units can fail in 3-5 years or less, whereas a fan/fans may work for 7-10 years. It's also more expensive -- more material and manufacturing costs, more packaging; they usually reserve that fancy stuff for top tier chips, so you'll see much more expensive units with a waterblock or AIO sporting the fastest speeds possible

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Plus an AIO water-cooled card is a bit harder to install and won't fit in all cases, and the ones with only a waterblock require the rest of a loop, which is pretty expensive and also requires skill and time to make happen

burnt tendon
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Yah, like I've followed extreme cooling rigs since the days when someone put a Peltier on a 486 in the days of yore but I have like zero interest.

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You can say that I'm just not that pumped about them.

delicate stream
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I have an AIO on my 7900X to try to keep it from catching fire

burnt tendon
#

mid-90s me, who worked doing web design as his summer job so he could get a Voodoo Rush, is very disappointed in present-day me for using the integrated Intel GPU.

delicate stream
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My 1950X also has a waterblock... but it came with that

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oof

burnt tendon
#

I blame cryptocurrencies.

delicate stream
#

coughs in multiple milti-GPU systems I... I didn't buy that many... and I don't have a problem, you have a problem D:

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continues plotting next build

burnt tendon
#

Yeah, like, I don't really game anymore so it's just what I need to do Blender and FreeCAD and stuff

delicate stream
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I'm doing video editing, 3D modeling [learning Blender], and messing with simulations

static flare
#

Got my keyswitches and sockets today!

dusty citrus
dusty citrus
dusty citrus
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-1 may also be seen as 0xFFFFFFFF on a 32-bit MCU, in some contexts.

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2147483647 + 1 = -2147483648

dusty citrus
#
ok .s <1>  -1111111 11111111 11111111 11111110   1 - 
ok .s <1>  -1111111 11111111 11111111 11111111   1 - 
ok .s <1> -10000000 00000000 00000000 00000000   1 - 
ok .s <1>   1111111 11111111 11111111 11111111   1 - 
ok .s <1>   1111111 11111111 11111111 11111110  
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(If it's wrong don't worry about it; still working on this one)

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Here it is for 64 bits in gforth:

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$ gforth
Gforth 0.7.3, Copyright (C) 1995-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
Gforth comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `license'
Type `bye' to exit
HEX  ok
7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF  .s <1> 7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF  ok
2 BASE !          .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111  ok
1 -               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110  ok
1 -               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111101  ok
1 -               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111100  ok
1 -               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111011  ok
HEX               .s <1> 7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFB  ok
2 BASE !          .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111011  ok
1 +               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111100  ok
1 +               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111101  ok
1 +               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110  ok
1 +               .s <1> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111  ok
( tipping pt )  ok
1 +               .s <1> -1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000  ok
1 +               .s <1> -111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111  ok
1 +               .s <1> -111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110  ok
HEX               .s <1> -7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFE  ok
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(EDITED):

1 +   .s <1>   1111111  ok
1 +   .s <1> -10000000  ok
1 +   .s <1>  -1111111  ok
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That seems to be how it devolves. Stripping out the same number of bits from each term.

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That'd be 0x7F, -0x80, -0x7F I think. ;)

delicate stream
#

I'm on the phone and there's a loud rooster

static flare
#

Shipping with ordering stuff from the US is annoyingly expensive good lord

delicate stream
#

oof

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We should move Australia a little closer to America

static flare
#

I wish, sometimes

delicate stream
#

might be easier to move you to the US

thorn lintel
#

It wouldn't help, I'm in the same state and still pay almost $20 for shipping small items lol.

delicate stream
#

oof

static flare
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Does it take at least 3 weeks to arrive at that price?

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Cause it's $20 for like, 3 weeks, if I want it any sooner, it's like, $50-$100+

thorn lintel
#

no, usualy 1-3 days once its shipped.

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oh dang. well i guess my $20 isnt that bad after all.

static flare
#

And like, I want to get into NES Tetris but I have none of the stuff I need and everything involved is expensive and the price of shipping is also expensive

thorn lintel
#

i'm coming to the end of my current project and already wondering what i can work on next

static flare
#

valid

thorn lintel
#

And I need to clean up the rats nest of wires lol

static flare
#

i can relate

velvet pelican
#

@thorn lintel cable ties do wonders for that

thorn lintel
# velvet pelican <@452973999329116182> cable ties do wonders for that

that looks great! once I mount everything back on their stand-offs it does look a lot cleaner, just cant have the cables too short that wont allow the lid to open all the way. Also i moved all the battery, temperature, and solar monitoring to the tiny2040 to reduce the power load consumption of the pi because it would reboot during cellular file transfers due to low voltage.

delicate stream
#

Cable ties can be expensive :P

static flare
#

Depends on the type, really

velvet pelican
#

Harbor freight is like 5 bucks for a hundred

delicate stream
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I was joking, but I have had really expensive ones -- I had a pack of 25 ties that was $40, but they were a steel weave reusable type... crazy

static flare
#

I've found the reusable ones to be fairly expensive, same but to a lesser extent with the twist tie type, but the use once cut off type are cheap as chips

delicate stream
#

They were also like 2' long

static flare
#

it's knowing how to actually use them that's a big issue, I have no clue how to cable manage, even with cable ties

delicate stream
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I'm the crazy person who will try to unlatch non-reusable ones, lol

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I like velcro

thorn lintel
#

i like to use reuable zip ties for all kinds of stuff. i keep a pack in my truck and they come in handy. I also have a bunch of small ones i keep with my electronics lol

static flare
#

I usually cut off excess tails so reusing then is less possible

delicate stream
#

I like duct tape

thorn lintel
#

i do that on the non-reusable ones.

static flare
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yeah that's what i mean

delicate stream
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I may or may not cut off tails, depends on what I'm doing

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Sometimes it's just not visible and/or I don't care and leave the tails

static flare
#

yea

stoic mesa
# thorn lintel And I need to clean up the rats nest of wires lol

Nowadays, I commonly deal with it by designing my own PCB for mounting everything - one PCB can replace an incredible number of jumper cables. And producing a PCB costs $2 (plus $12 or so shipping from Shenzhen), or if it is a small PCB, OshPark gives free delivery in the USA

thorn lintel
static flare
#

I love designing and making PCBs

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I mean, I get them made, mine are coming like, in 2 weeks (it takes a while :/)

#

Everything is more expensive in Australia

delicate stream
#

I've only ever hand made PCBs

static flare
#

I tried to make them myself back in highschool but I never got them right

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I can design circuits well, just... handmade boards aren't my forte

delicate stream
#

I always make pretty simple boards

static flare
#

Heck, I've messed up simple H Bridge circuits

delicate stream
#

oof

#

I greatly desire nap

static flare
#

valid

delicate stream
#

flop, exhausted groan

delicate stream
spice moss
zealous ermine
#

robotics software is fun

delicate stream
#

I have burned myself on my MacBook Pro

zealous ermine
#

how?!?!? @delicate stream

delicate stream
#

I put my finger on the center above the touch bar... Oww

zealous ermine
#

does that bit get hot?

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sorry i dont have a macbook so i dont know

delicate stream
#

Yeah, towards the screen/hinges gets pretty toast

zealous ermine
#

does it have active cooling?

delicate stream
#

Yup, but it always leans towards warm and quiet

zealous ermine
#

hmm, is is possible to change the fan curves?

delicate stream
#

I think kinda? But it still gets hot when at full force

delicate stream
tardy badger
#

oh no

zealous ermine
#

Oh nooo

dusty citrus
delicate stream
limber jackal
#

I find my lack of coffee disturbing on all the other days of the year as well...

tardy badger
#

Classic

#

I have a Christmas shirt that says โ€œI find your lack of presents disturbingโ€

spice moss
#

starwars drink you know well in other version but i going for with blueberries

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@limber jackal I like my coffee drink from Kyloren helmet mug on starwars day

limber jackal
zealous ermine
#

i spent way too long making this

tardy badger
#

Do you ever think about how bad life would be for people with glasses if the world engulfed in war and basically every part of modern civilization is destroyed and we had to completely rebuild society

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Like in a situation like The Walking Dead, you canโ€™t just order a new prescription or go to the eye doctor

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At some point youโ€™re just visually impaired and dependent on people who can actually see

grave crest
#

As I've heard said by AT Makers -- "We're all temporarily abled."

static flare
#

Just put a bid in for a C64

zealous ermine
#

How much?

static flare
#

$350, for the C64, datasette, power supply, paddle controllers, 2x joysticks, a set of programming books, some game cassettes and booklets, composite RCA video and RF cables for video
and 5" monochrome CRT

late fulcrum
#

That's a nice retro setup

#

There was a Twilight Zone episode where this person who just wanted to be left alone and read books got his wish โ€“ย until he broke his glasses.

static flare
#

Sorry, had to rush and get ready, it's first to collect, and I believe they were kinda rare here

#

And the collection seemed a good price

late fulcrum
#

I have an old Commodore monitor, but it would cost considerably more than it's worth to ship it to you.

static flare
#

I can imagine, given the fact it's a CRT, although I am looking for a CRT that is desktop sized, for my NES setup, but I might see if I can find something here

late fulcrum
#

The Commodore 1802 monitor was really common in the US, and it's fairly iconic, so you see them on TV shows a lot as props.

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Amusingly, I bought it because it had Y/C video inputs (this was in the days before S-video), and made an adapter cable to use it with my Atari 800.

static flare
#

ha! I'll look into seeing if I could get one

#

although getting it shipped is expensive

#

probably

#

i should mostly be fine with what I have right now

late fulcrum
#

It'll work fine with a monochrome monitor, but to experience its full capabilities, you'll want a colour one.

#

Oh yay, I found a downloadable copy of the 1802 monitor service manual!

static flare
#

absolutely, i want a colour one for my whole setup

zealous ermine
#

i bought my c64 for $200 around 5 years ago

#

it was only the machine and the datasette though, nothing else. had to get the power supply separate

slim shard
#

yeah, not sure what monster sets up a C64 with a B&W

#

its not an Apple][ or anything silly like that :-)

zealous ermine
#

LOL

#

gotta show of that VIC-2 chip!

slim shard
#

two shades of blue!!!!

zealous ermine
#

amazing!

slim shard
#

!!1!!!!

zealous ermine
#

i'm working on designing a monochrome display driver for my homebrew computer

#

it's going to be somewhat awful

slim shard
#

eh, Ben Eater just got a keyboard working on his, hasn't integrated his worlds worst graphics into it yet

zealous ermine
#

ye, it's very impressive

#

but i'm trying to have it display on an oscilloscope, not VGA

#

so i need to generate my own scan lines

slim shard
#

going to try to surpass the jetsons?

zealous ermine
#

but that also makes it a lot easier because I dont have to be too precise with timing

zealous ermine
#

i got a prototype of it to work a few years ago, but it was only 64x64. the new one is going to be a lot better

slim shard
#

huh, another starlink mission, Musk will be able to walk along LEO if he gets his way....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpl_JnG7rcg

SpaceX is targeting Tuesday, May 4 for launch of 60 Starlink satellites from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The instantaneous window is at 3:01 p.m. EDT, or 19:01 UTC, and a backup opportunity is available on Wednesday, May 5 at 2:39 p.m. EDT, or 18:39 UTC.

The Falcon 9 first stage rocket booster supporting this...

โ–ถ Play video
static flare
#

And acquired!

#

It's a long board in a 64C case, funnily enough

slim shard
#

yeah, IIRC they're all long boards, never had a 64C before (had a 128 though, didn't blow me away)

late fulcrum
#

I'm also looking at a goofy scanning display, so I'll be curious how yours goes.

static flare
#

For the C64-C, the first ones had the long board, but most of them from what I've seen have the short board

#

The long board is the same one as the "breadbin" C64

#

Which uses the same case as the VIC-20

#

(that's not actually true, the 64 breadbin sits lower)

slim shard
#

TIL

burnt tendon
#

I want a person with a short case and a loooooong board.

slim shard
#

I want a board with uninterrupted power supply.

static flare
#

Considering getting a new version of the 64C case to make mods with and such to the case

slim shard
#

was going to muse about making a dual core C64, but thats what happens when you plug in a disk drive anyway.

static flare
#

I don't have a floppy drive, sadly, but I do have a datasette player

#

I'd be curious about acquiring an Amiga, I like the look of them

#

(a 500 or 600)

slim shard
#

grew up on one, was good learning

#

also fragile in several ways, I'd probably stick to UAE nowadays

static flare
#

My first computer was an XP machine

slim shard
#

I moved to Windows 2000 from my Amiga, and after having to reinstall that a dozen times I dove into Linux and keep trying to avoid going back

static flare
#

I have spent most of my computing life either using MacOS or Windows 10

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I learned to program on a Mac, but I mostly use Windows 10 nowadays, and I'm moving into Linux

slim shard
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Windows 10 makes me want to run around immolating people

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my mind is blown that this is the pinnacle of a billion dollar company working for what seems like half a century

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when I hibernate a W10 machine I need to unplug it to keep it from turning on again (on its own, because I must be some sort of idiot for wanting a machine to be off), they want money for that?

orchid barn
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started using Linux back in 2000 when Windows crashed and literally ate 4k mp3s, ah napster and morpheus what fun you were

slim shard
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on linux, EXT3 surprised me by making files nonrecoverable, oh, and I met reiserFS :-)

orchid barn
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Just wandered into the raspberrypi world back in March when I bought a pi400

slim shard
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I should buy one some day

orchid barn
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waiting for a cyberdeck and a 2.8" ttf to show up any day

slim shard
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I have a bunch of other pis, but not the omage to my childhood 64

orchid barn
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it is a neat little system

static flare
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i just spent the past bour trying to figure out how to charge my phone

slim shard
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beware heavy electrons