And yanno -- 25k is nothing to laugh at. That's a serious long bit of time.
#general-chat
dusty citrus
jaunty jetty
approximately 100 times longer than america has been americaing about
dusty citrus
I get asked basic questions about these kinds of timeframes pretty often, conversationally.
there's a filthy story about amaricus vespucious that's amusing to read. /elsewhere
a lot of people are still confused about if fred flintstone coexisted with tricerotops or not.
There was a scientific American article (which I agree with) that asserts that we are already deeply within the 'current' ice age.
jaunty jetty
fun fact, he didn't exist, nor did the concept of him
cave men just weren't really a thing at all
dusty citrus
Yeah I don't give those people five minutes to state their argument.
jaunty jetty
the funner fact is the one about the t-rex and the triceritops being further apart then we are from the latter one
dusty citrus
I did, though. I've put in my time on this one.
Well how about mr purgatory. I'll fetch a link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatorius
I'm not sure I believe the backstory to this name. ;)
jaunty jetty
that it was found under purgatory hill?
dusty citrus
I think somebody was laughing their heads off after putting in the name for approval.
It's a perfect name for such a location in the hominid lineage. ;)
Who's going to forget it?
jaunty jetty
are you aware of Happy Valley Goose Bay?
dusty citrus
No, I'm not Canadian. /rimshot
You know that Isaac Newton was a total nutter.
But he always knew when he was doing science, and when he was not.
Except for the times he poisoned himself, by tasting his alchemy experiments.
(I don't think he knew they were poisons)
I bought a reputable book on Newton that laid all this out, in a used bookstore, quite a while ago.
Had all the right highbrow markings of a reputable book.
The author referred to Newton as 'incomprehensibly schizophrenic' ;)
I think he just grew up in an era where religion really did seem to have something to do with the real world.
But he was still a nasty fellow. Had people put to death, as Master of the Mint.
On balance, I'll take him as history finds him -- worth the pain.
Probably the H.S. Thayer book Newton's Philosophy of Nature: Selections from his Writings but I don't remember for sure.
jaunty jetty
how do you feel about the tertiary implications of random things nintendo adds to the mario universe without considering the internet?
dusty citrus
You just tipped your hand. ;)
My brother and I are both poker players; my father was really quite good at it.
jaunty jetty
which hand was this?
dusty citrus
I know an awful lot of people who regret if they even knew what 'mario' was.
jaunty jetty
so, nintendo announced a new game, and they announced a new character for the game, and they announced that the character has a power. The game is smash bros, the character is Toadette, and the power is that Toadette can transform into a humanoid that resembles Peach.
First level implication, Toadette transforms by putting on a certain crown
second level implication, there's a crown that transforms the wearer into a humanoid that resembles Peach
third level implication, other characters in the mario universe are capable of wearing crowns
dusty citrus
This reminds me of Sinead OConnor's video from I think last summer or last fall, where she's telling Doctor Phil how he doesn't know what's going on in the asylum. ;)
I told a friend of mine about it and she gave me such a look!
jaunty jetty
I am vaguely aware of what a doctor phil is
dusty citrus
He's like a TV psychologist.
My friends look was "I don't know what to do with you" aimed at me.
She was right, of course.
But the video Sinead posted was compelling, anyway.
I feel so bad for her.
dusty citrus
she was a singer with a short famous career a long time ago.
shuh-nay-yid
but with a lot more finesse
It's gaelic (irish)
she's seven years younger than me.
jaunty jetty
is the d silent?
dusty citrus
there's an accent over a vowel but I think all the consonants are pronounced.
stress on the middle syllable
She covered 'Prince' who wrote a song "Nothing Compares 2U" which she scored a hit with.
Prince changed his name to a symbol and after that the media referred to him as "The Artist formerly known as Prince".
jaunty jetty
yea, contracts are a pain
dusty citrus
Fast forward to 2017, maybe October: Sinead O'Connor goes on television and tells her stuff to this Doctor Phil guy, who puts her into a confined treatment setting.
She's already a victim of the Magdalene Laundries.
So, like, really bad move to confine her anywhere for any reason.
What gets me is that she herself puts out the videos on the Internet (ostensibly).
melts down in public.
I was just catching up on modern irish music when I ran across all this falderal.
I guess you could say I believe her melt down in the context it was presented in.
jaunty jetty
hint me about how you were reminded of this
dusty citrus
For that moment, she was really in crisis.
Happened just the other day (haha time shifted communications).
So I'm still mulling it over.
It's a pretty good example of what we were talking about earlier.
A lot of people would roll their eyes at the entire notion of it.
I can't really argue against them -- they're right.
jaunty jetty
so the communication conversation reminded you of Sinaed
dusty citrus
Oh I don't think I have that level of detail in my audit trail.
I thought it was Friday today - twice. Even after mentioning it specifically to a friend.
Even after sitting by the side of the road for a moment (off my bike) amazed at how much Monday Morning traffic there was on the roads 'for a Monday'.
I'm now at the point where I don't have the slightest memory of things that happened the same day.
Yet I can pull out obscure stuff from long ago, at will, seemingly (at least at times).
jaunty jetty
have you considered building a new memory palace?
btw, the punchline, almost all of the mario characters wearing the 'super crown' are great
dusty citrus
I have a friend who thinks we can live forever.
jaunty jetty
for certain definitions of 'we' that don't include any humans sure
dusty citrus
He hasn't mentioned it lately. ;)
jaunty jetty
here's my position: regardless of the body, the human mind can't survive indefinitely
it's like building a skyscraper and saying "Yea, this'll be here in 2 millenia"
dusty citrus
I don't have any grounds to believe in substrate independence so I don't think transferring minds into machinery is possible in principle.
I think my friend is thinking in terms of 'fixes' to regular biological problems such as telomere shortening.
jaunty jetty
you could simulate the chemistry of the brain, but there's no clear way you would do something simpler
dusty citrus
n humans, average telomere length declines from about 11 kilobases at birth[3] to less than 4 kilobases in old age,[4] with the average rate of decline being greater in men than in women.
wikipedia
well yanno like the star trek fantasy about the transporter beam.
If you solve that you've also solved a lot of other problems along the way.
I do think he woke up one day and realized he was definitely gonna die. Like: a standard, 'gooey' death that we all get.
(Don Imus reference)
jaunty jetty
speaking of magnitudinus ages https://youtu.be/AjJUFyd4Cac
Most lakes are around 20,000 years old, Lake Baikal is more than 25 million
dusty citrus
that's pretty good
I give it a lot of credit for hanging in there.
a lot of lakes can't be bothered to continue to exist.
(I thought running a BBS 24/7 was a bit taxing, myself, and that was just for maybe 18 months)
jaunty jetty
most lakes are just parts of rivers that jiggled around and then collapsed into a fat spot until they fill with soil being transported by the river
lake Baikal is formed by two continents moving apart
dusty citrus
I think of lakes as scoured away by glaciers and then rainfall.
oh that would explain the long time.
Connecticut has a very interesting history to it. The middle of it is totally different from either side of it (divide it vertically twice).
jaunty jetty
also it's extreme depth that I don't remember
dusty citrus
Part of Connecticut was France at one time.
jaunty jetty
same for detroit
dusty citrus
But squished in the middle, part was ocean floor.
So there was a whole ocean squished in, near Hartford. ;)
jaunty jetty
oh you mean it was attached to france physically?
dusty citrus
Well the rocks match. You can find matching rocks in France.
at one time they were together -- connecticut has a part of france.
I'm on the continent (granite) which was thousands of miles away.
(I'm on the western third of Connecticut).
The word is 'terrane' I think. Jersey is part of it too.
(new jersey, the state of NJ)
I think his name is Michael Ball
bell. ;)
http://70.91.221.154/face_of_ct/
trying to find one without an oddball URI
I used to go to 'the' nature museum ( a lot! ) on my bicycle as a kid.
They had a lot of exhibits and I was very interested in this stuff - and it was local to me so I had a context to place it into.
silver shale
https://youtu.be/FxbUSEGH8II finally did it
dusty citrus
Here's a good one on disingenuous behavior:
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Debate/CEP_Gould.html
Grice argued that interpreting the meaning of utterances is only possible because listeners implicitly assume that speakers intend their utterances to be responsive to the surrounding discourse, relevant, and (for the most part) truthful.
jaunty jetty
so here's the most important question
do you interpret that as supporting your argument or mine, because I know what I think it means
dusty citrus
You're to me stuck in a world where it's one way or the other and you're quite sure you have it covered.
If we agreed, I wouldn't notice this. ;)
What I do think is that the article used new language I enjoyed and found a refreshing angle of approach.
I think it describes (basically) the very nature of online discourse.
That it's inherently false.
dusty citrus
another way of putting it is that it is reasonable to treat every single byte coming in from the Internet (through the hole in the wall; the modem) as part of a Turing Test that I'm unwillinglly subjected to. :)
I just don't believe any of it.
jaunty jetty
it's possible, but we've spent the whole of human civilization getting to the point where UTF8 exists
dusty citrus
Heh. Only Good Ideas matter. Sources: not so much.
Don't get me wrong. I'll quote Elon Musk as if we were best friends and that he can't say anything wrong.
I'm saying don't believe me when I go off like that. ;)
(not that you would, but ya never know)
Eventually this is going to be an actual problem and an actual danger.
jaunty jetty
now isn't really the time to be claiming elon can't say anything wrong....
dusty citrus
Why what did he do? How's Chicago going? He announced about Chicago at the beginning of the summer, I think.
jaunty jetty
just as an overview, he accused a guy baselessly of being a pedo, and it kinda goes down hill from there
dusty citrus
ut oh. the p word. yeah that's one to stay away from even if you're certain.
jaunty jetty
his evidence was that the guy was in thailand
dusty citrus
oh well they did that cave rescue thing recently there. or near there.
dusty citrus
Well. He put stuff in space. It's UP THERE. He put it there.
That's big. He put things in space.
jaunty jetty
Elon was mad that the rescue effort didn't appreciate his money and engineers
so then wait a few weeks and he brought it up again, doubling down the first of several times
dusty citrus
Until he walks into the room like Colonel Kurtz, with a machete in one hand (and you can imagine what's in the other hand) I'm predisposed to saying atta boy elon musk.
he's very smart so he may be more liable to having 'episodes' of ahem 'brilliance'.
jaunty jetty
and then a week or two ago he challenged the guy to sue him; to which the guy's lawyer replied "we started the process of sueing you several weeks ago"
dusty citrus
haha.
I think the guy's great. power corrupts ; absolute power corrupts absolutely. He's very powerful.
It's going to damage him. That's the cost of being that powerful.
jaunty jetty
somewhere in the middle Elon announced that he was in talks with an undisclosed party who had promised to buy back all of Tesla's publicly owned shares at <insert price here>, which is the kind of statement that can send you to jail if untrue
dusty citrus
One of the (many) reasons I don't play the lottery is it'd destroy me to fend off 'new friends' if I was incredibly rich.
It seems unlikely that elon musk won't succeed in managing his affairs.
jaunty jetty
and then last week he went on some internet politics show and smoked a whole bunch of weed on camera
dusty citrus
People with much less noble of intent have done much better.
jaunty jetty
it's a meme now
dusty citrus
wow.
I'll have to see him on camera and see his face if this stuff comes up.
I don't think a person should smoke weed on camera.
A lot of famous people have made statements about use, but few provide court evidence.
(against themselves)
jaunty jetty
especially when he owns a company that fires people for testing positive for THC in a state where it's legal and he's trying to drive a buyback to take said company private again so that he can fire people with less oversight
dusty citrus
it'd be disappointing as hell if he wrecks his own train ride. ;)
jaunty jetty
here's the original interview, note that it was streamed live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI
dusty citrus
I don't watch videos linked to me.
;) sorry but thanks. I'll just keep it in mind.
(because that's part of the process that I don't want to see encouraged)
jaunty jetty
just citing my sources
dusty citrus
fair enough.
jaunty jetty
it really feels like Elon is trying to crash the train ever since the cave rescue
dusty citrus
I'm the most rah-rah person I know on the subject of Elon Musk.
There's no shortage of criticism of him.
jaunty jetty
like something has happened and he's gone into a self destructive mode
karmic kite
He's brought a lot of good to the world but no one person is a 100% perfect, celebs are just held to a closer magnifying glass
dusty citrus
IF he starts making 'the money' nervous, that's a distinct problem.
jaunty jetty
I'm not aware of any major terribleness he's commited like so many other rich people, Tesla doesn't treat it's workers well and that's about it. They're nothing compared to Amazon.
I'd prefer not to see him self-sabotage
dusty citrus
Yeah me too.
I love that expression 'the money' .. was in (the movie) Shakespeare in Love
"who's he?" "He's the money"
It's one of those idioms that I grasped immediately and put to use right away. ;)
cursive pike
@dusty citrus Same here.
dusty citrus
I may've just found out why I thought the feather m4 was hosed -- may've been using the wrong bossac.
I've gotten really good at diagnosing boot issues with the toolchains I work with.
stuck moth
@jaunty jetty can you DM me? I want to discuss an earlier conversation you were a part of and your DMs are closed. (I may actually take time to get back to you though because I'm traveling tomorrow)
jaunty jetty
Clyde says you're not accepting DMs
jaunty jetty
Up front, clyde says a lot of things, I take none of them as accurate
stuck moth
it says I have DMs open from server members
jaunty jetty
It's still saying no, try sending a friend request
stuck moth
kk
dusty citrus
#general-tech 15:46 UTC ;)
earnest turtle
sorry for posting this but admins please remove it if its out of line. but a streamer i thend to watch made a cool project for his twitch channel. so like to show it off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5zEBPPmbTo
dusty citrus
He's burning subscriber names into a wooden board placed on the wall in his lab; it's a laser etching bed rotated 90 to wall-mount it.
It's got Arduino (nano) and RPI in it.
Sounds center-demographic around here. ;)
opal hazel
Now that's a shop...
Went back in time on his channel. He's building the case. He says and I quote. "The dremel is such an in-precise tool; that whatever, I'm such an imprecise tool. " Honestly. This is a rabbit hole that kind of scares me.
late fulcrum
I'm debugging the time circuits board, and realized I didn't remap the keypad pins when some of the keys didn't work. I did the usual workaround of cutting a trace and soldering on a wire, but then the computer complained that I'm drawing too much USB power. I peered at it for a long time trying to figure out what I short-circuited. Finally I disconnected everything but the Arduino. Still too much power. Apparently my knockoff Arduino died.
jaunty jetty
regarding the stirling engine tea stirrer, I have a cup of tea right now that I've put honey and lemon in; lemon juice doesn't like to stay in solution, if the cup sits there without being stirred all the lemon juice settles to the bottom. I'm new at honey but it should do better
dusty citrus
I tried to revive a board today, but it just won't respond. I didn't do anything wrong, but I did program it using bare metal techniques, so that has to be it -- or foo*
jaunty jetty
just having the most basic agitation would do a lot to keep the lemon integrated
dusty citrus
Yeah but it'll go down swirled.
jaunty jetty
I'm not familiar enough with your human fluid consumption terms to parse that pun
dusty citrus
I knew a very intelligent woman (older than me) who thought the microwave oven 'did something' to water that was unhealthy. Preferred to heat water on the stove, instead, for that reason.
jaunty jetty
well, microwaves are a lot more complicated than people give them credit for
for just a cup of water I doubt the ions will be much of a problem
dusty citrus
H2O .. that's the whole formula there.
jaunty jetty
that's the kind of oversimplification I'm talking about
dusty citrus
hydrogen is an atom; oxygen is an atom - ions are what missing electrons or missing protons .. ionizing radiation is generally what ..
jaunty jetty
for one, it's very unhealthy to consume distilled water, it rips atoms out of your digestive system in order to become less pure and reduce the energy state
for two, you're taking an atom and bombarding it with radiation
dusty citrus
who's distilling any water?
jaunty jetty
a person who drinks pure H2O
dusty citrus
radio waves are also radiation. sunlight is radiation.
jaunty jetty
the radiation isn't going to make anything radioactive, but you can alter it
knock off electrons to give it a charge, split molecules that then recombine differently
the microwave doesn't do nothing
dusty citrus
I believe they speak of the 'dipole moment of water' when they talk about what the microwave oven does, to heat water.
jaunty jetty
the bigger deal is all the other stuff in the water, like turkey
the water gets hot, other molecules do as well, but not all of them, which means the heat is introduced unevenly throughout the material
with the wrong distribution you can have regions turning to steam
with steam, you can destroy most biologicals at a small scale, though at a large scale the heat dissipates too quickly
so say you have some vitamin next to some water, and the water turns to steam, and the vitamin, exposed to heat and water, decomposes
I'm not saying burn your microwave, but it does stuff
if you dismiss people for believing that their microwave does stuff, then you are wrong
I met this woman a long time ago working retail who insisted that android phones were shooting radio waves into a nerve in her wrist but iphones didn't, her doctor said so
she was what we in the industry call a hostile customer
dusty citrus
I really don't worry about microwave ovens.
jaunty jetty
that's fine
they're crazy safe
if you recreated the universe with even the most infinitesimal change, microwaves wouldn't be safe at all
late fulcrum
The osmotic pressure of distilled water isn't particularly different from any other water.
jaunty jetty
distilled water will strip oil out of plastics
dusty citrus
Distilled water isn't saturated with stuff so it can take on stuff.
There are a lot of dissolved gasses in tapwater.
jaunty jetty
water really doesn't want to be pure
late fulcrum
Granted, deionized water can attack certain types of metal fittings (as some water cooled laser operators found to their dismay). But distilled water doesn't have any special powers.
dusty citrus
I don't know where this pure talk even entered into it. Nobody said a word about distilling anything.
talk about your straw man. oy.
late fulcrum
As soon as it hits the hydrochloric acid (plus other stuff) bath in my stomach, it isn't very pure any more, whether it's spring water or distilled water.
jaunty jetty
@dusty citrus nis: H2O .. that's the whole formula there
this is only true for distilled water
dusty citrus
okay I forget what you are like. I didn't mean what I typed. Your honor.
I didn't mean H2O plus unrelated pollutants I meant H2O not H3O, or ionized H2O
wasn't addressing distillation. Obviously.
jaunty jetty
the more specific a statement is, the more it's literal truth becomes the intent
late fulcrum
I was on one group where someone insisted it was impossible for blue light to make neon ionize more easily, as it doesn't have enough energy. Which may seem reasonable in theory, but the experiment is trivial to do, and blue light very much can make neon ionize more easily.
jaunty jetty
yep
dusty citrus
you mentioned that once before here, I think.
jaunty jetty
indeed, so I'm not going to remember the reason
tldr; it actually makes a whole lot of sense that exactly that would happen
late fulcrum
That said, I doubt microwaves are going to ionize enough water molecules to matter.
jaunty jetty
agreed
my point is that science minded people tend to have runnins with pseudoscience people, anti-intillectuals, and conspiracy theoriests. It's easy to take an excessively general and un-nuanced position regarding their position, but the idea that a microwaved cup of hot water is different than a cup of water heated by combusting dinosaur juice, is actually true. Pure truth, the smallest least useful kind of truth that's super important to behavior
because if you just dismiss their fears, they still have them, and you've walked away safe in the knowledge that they have dumb thoughts
microwaves don't do anything meaningful to water, they're super great at safely making water hot, they're not great at broccoli, there's a significant portion of nutrient destruction as a consequence of regionalized steam conversion
dusty citrus
I did read all that. Good points.
late fulcrum
I agree with all that, but I don't buy the notion that distilled water can strip oil out of plastics, or "rip atoms out of your digestive system" appreciably more than ordinary water.
dusty citrus
The old saw about distilled water came from Victor Kulvinskas who was worried about distilled watch leeching minerals out of your teeth, iirc.
He was the wheat grass juice guy.
He was a bit off but his book was entertaining and well illustrated.
late fulcrum
There has been a recurring furor on the internet (and likely before that) by people insisting that distilled and/or deionized water will harm people by a variety of mechanisms, some more imaginative than others. For some reason I can only guess at, that argument seems to repeatedly lead to an argument that ultrasonic cleaners will reduce your bones to powder.
jaunty jetty
can we start a new internet without conspiracy theorist products, and pinterest
late fulcrum
Yes! Fortunately, the protocols are fairly simple and well documented. We just need a few computers and some links of some kind.
jaunty jetty
I'm not going to say distilled water will harm you, but it's less good than normal water
it also IMHO tastes bad
dusty citrus
tastes like distilled water ;)
late fulcrum
Rainwater is essentially distilled water, with whatever gases and particles it happens to absorb while falling.
jaunty jetty
I like my water to taste neutral
dusty citrus
anyone with any sense puts stuff in their water.
jaunty jetty
eh, that's a slippery wet slope
late fulcrum
Ah, I knew you were capable of punning!
jaunty jetty
rain is a process similar to distilation, but rainwater is not clean
it collects a lot of stuff on the way down as it rapidly crashes into a whole lot of atmosphere
dusty citrus
I put city tapwater into gallon jugs and refrigerate it.
late fulcrum
I've been drinking distilled water for years, in a successful attempt to avoid recurring kidney stones. However, I'm planning on switching over to reverse osmosis filtered water in the near future.
jaunty jetty
yanno, if the problem is an excess of mineral TDS, distilled water helps in a few ways
I imagine the majority is just the absence of additional TDS
late fulcrum
That's my thinking as well. I live in a part of the country known as the "kidney stone belt" due to the fact that the local water has minerals in it that contribute to at least certain kinds of kidney stones (mine were the calcium oxalate variety).
dusty citrus
well yeah calcium sounds like a candidate for creating stones. ;)
jaunty jetty
I live like 2 hours south of Flint
I only filter tapwater that I'm not going to flavor, because I like the taste of water that's gone through a brita filter
dusty citrus
I had a sharp pain the other day and I was thinking 'oh no kidney stone'
jaunty jetty
I sure hope not, for your sake
jaunty jetty
I think so? not a doctor; but I'm pretty sure the liver and kidney are different
late fulcrum
I think it's possible for bile to crystallize (that's essentially what gallstones are), but I have no idea if that would occur within the liver. It seems possible, but I too am no doctor.
dusty citrus
I'll have to look at my records and see if I can figure it out.
They had to go through the heart to biopsy the liver.
jaunty jetty
on a scale from like, the pope to the guy that wrote fear and loathing in las vegas, how much alcohol and drugs do you consume?
dusty citrus
None. Like near zero. Maybe 12 beers in an entire calendar year.
ASA81 daily; and a pill prescribed that keeps me healthy.
Prescribed by an M.D. working for the VA. ;)
But they asked and asked and asked if I was a heavy drinker.
So apparently, drinking heavily puts your liver at risk.
jaunty jetty
generally speaking livers don't do anything interesting until they've been pretty heavily abused
dusty citrus
In this case the liver was a client and wasn't part of the etiology of what was happening.
But they didn't know that when they did the TJLB.
jaunty jetty
water has a really.... good.. specific heat, I always forget which directly this is
the water will have heated the mug, the mug insullates it from the air on most of the surfaces, the water contains a lot of energy and would prefer to keep it
20 isn't going to be enough
as long as the distilled water is superheated it can collectively boil and errupt
dusty citrus
I think we tried it once at the restaurant. Pretty sure I've seen it go off. We were careful enough. I say 'we' because I don't remember who fetched the water after the microwave part was done. ;)
They say you can get most of the dissolved gasses out of water by heating it on the stove.
It's one of those Mr. Wizard subjects (old tv show demoing 'science')
jaunty jetty
this article I'm reading also says you can get a lot of the dissolved gasses out by microwaving it repeatedly with cooling periods between
dusty citrus
That sounds right.
jaunty jetty
so, if you forgot a cup in the microwave, don't just turn it back on
dusty citrus
A navy guy told me that they use ultra purified water in their systems on the ship.
dusty citrus
Really I've operated those microwave ovens since I can't remember when without a problem.
They're like Microsoft Windows -- a pre-verbal toddler can operate them. ;)
that's an unhack that adds work to life imo
be good for that long space ship ride to alpha centauri
jaunty jetty
no, it adds sand to life
your life, coffee
kids, don't let your friends drink sand
dusty citrus
yeah so they crashed me on the table during that biopsy. vasovagal response I think it was called.
jaunty jetty
sure, can't stick a finger in your heart if it's beating
dusty citrus
The funny part was using the boy scout method of elevating my ankles to help me back to being alive again.
(also pushed atropine)
kind of interesting how such low bp affects you. worry-free (they give sedative)
conscious through the whole thing
They run a catheter -- it's like a sleeve. Awesome distance they had to cover to get to the liver, by passing through the heart, starting at the neck (jugular).
Those plastics are incredible to me that they can achieve that.
I bet that kit costs good money per unit. Tear open the bag it's like 1100 bux or something.
late fulcrum
It's fun to supercool distilled water and drink the result. It turns into slush in your mouth.
Yes, water has an enormous specific heat. That (and some interesting optical effects) are why a laser that can punch a hole in a quarter inch of steel in a microsecond will do no more to a human than a blister (unless you catch it with an eyeball).
Medical kit is cool stuff. It's like directional drilling inside your body.
dusty citrus
They get away with it. I'm very impressed with modern medicine.
(was not, at all, prior to need of it)
late fulcrum
I have marvelled at the progress of dentistry over my lifetime. My first crown was a long, slow, expensive procedure that required several visits over the course of months. My most recent one, they stuck a 3D scanner in my mouth, built a model of the required crown, carved it out with CNC, tested the fit, baked it, glued it in, and sent me on my way. In and out in under 2 hours.
dusty citrus
I never heard of anything like that. Wow.
We're a bit closer to that technological singularity they keep trying to get us to notice.
There's going to be a lot more mental illness the faster things change. too much paradigm shift for any individual to have to witness and/or be a part of.
They'll have to maintain 'good old days' camps for old folx to retire to. ;)
late fulcrum
I was amazed at the tolerances of mammalian teeth. In the test fitting, it felt to me like it was 3mm too high or so. The dentist did a quick touch-up with an air-powered rotary tool, and it fit beautifully. I asked him how much material he had removed (it took a couple of seconds, tops). He said something on the order of 20-30µm, and pointed out that people routinely can detect smaller differences than that.
dusty citrus
Remember when people had skin, Bob? Yeah, Ralph, those were the good old days.
late fulcrum
My beef is that as I age and my eyesight deteriorates, electronics gets smaller. I have no trouble seeing an ordinary vacuum tube, but an SC-70 package? Yeesh.
dusty citrus
You're feeling relative distances, not jaw to jaw ones. The pressure in three places on one pair of teeth touching.
jaunty jetty
have you tried being a robot?
late fulcrum
I am a robot. Beep. Boop. 
dusty citrus
Yeah, eyesight is a problem for sure.
I had a good run for 35 years of flawless vision so I have no complaints.
I used to wonder what it'd be like to not be able to see well. I couldn't imagine it.
late fulcrum
I added a couple of diopters to my ordinary prescription to make a set of "craft" glasses, as I call them. But my sweetie is amused that the "craft" here is soldering.
My latest project, the initial version was all through-hole but the control chip, which wasn't available in another package. When I ended up re-doing the board, I kept running out of room, so started replacing parts with surface mount. That was a little too appealing, and soon everything but the LEDs and headers were surface mount. Happily, I have some useful tools that made assembling it easier than I expected (I-extruder, hot air station, and a binocular zoom boom microscope). It's like magic watching surface tension clean up my ugly solder paste blobs and even pull the parts into the proper position.
dusty citrus
I think they should have gone the other way and made IC's the size of a small briefcase. ;)
jaunty jetty
it's too bad humans aren't built to be indefinite, I'll never really be a robot, but someday I'll be free of this terrible flesh
dusty citrus
dont worry you will definitely be rid of this terrrible flesh one day. The next day there will be no one to do that worrying, so maybe you should worry while there's still time to do so. ;)
My guess is flesh is the best game in town right now, so I would stick to it. ;)
Use the flesh, Luke
jaunty jetty
it's getting close though
if we don't destroy the world within the next few years, I can easily imagine 1 for 1 prosthetic hands coming onto the market within 20 years
and then I can finally do hand stuff without pain or problem
dusty citrus
Oh there's no way we're going to make it through to a few centuries from now, in an expected way. I don't think we'll be extinct, exactly. Just a major FN reset.
jaunty jetty
there's no situation where I'm still here a few centuries from now
maybe one or two, but a few, no chance
jaunty jetty
the immediate concern is if we'll make it to the robocalypse in 2027
jaunty jetty
what would you name a city built in a steep river valley
dusty citrus
Floodpath? Nodike? Watchout?
I thought of Montrose, Colorado, first. Not really a city. Just a post office and restaurant.
David Lynch shot Twin Peaks (HBO, 2018) as a single shooting script, and carved it up into ten segments aired as episodes.
He put in musical acts at the end of each episode, set at that bar they all go to at night.
It's a venue.
The music is much as you'd see them in concert, but of course on a small stage, so more like a regular nightclub.
Sharon Van Etten was one of those acts; she and her band performed Tarifa.
I really like this band.
The Tiny Desk Concert series on NPR had her band on; they do a great job and have a good back-catalog of shows (about 20 minutes each video).
KEXP is another good one. It's a very interesting way to promote music.
south obsidian
@night crescent hi, i (@south obsidian) was blocked from your twitter long ago for seemingly no reason. could i be unblocked please?
jaunty jetty
there have been problems in the past with automated processesssesssses for blocking the really bad stuff on twitter based on hysteresis and benchmark metrics, it's possible you appeared to be too few kevin bacons away from something bad, in the eyes of a robot
looking at the tweets that feature both twitter callsigns there is a history of hostility but mostly directed at amazon, at one point you claim they blocked you for saying things about their shipping policy, they probably didn't but timeline wise that's right around when the automagic wasn't working well.
proven olive
@south obsidian I'd recommend sending an e-mail to support@adafruit.com - It'll be the quickest and easiest way to get a response.
late fulcrum
Comcast/Xfinity really wants me to subscribe to their mobile phone service. A little experimenting on their "will my existing phone work" site reveals that they're using an obsolete CDMA/GAIT network. No thanks, but I should be able to find something fun to do with the free SIM they sent me.
dusty citrus
lapis anchor
https://twitter.com/therpf/status/1044979912833200130 lol ahh the Microsoft Assistant
sleek night
clippette confirmed?
jaunty jetty
this seems untenable
is it compounding?
at the end of the first week you'd be making 79.33$/hour
which would be 165k$/year
dusty citrus
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/treat+with
I used this one the other day. I got it right.
greys that's an extra 2900 a year. So it's still way under 60k annually.
1.5 * 40 * 48
40 hr workweek; 48 week work-year (out of 52)
jaunty jetty
I'm not high enough in the working class to get 4 weeks off a year
dusty citrus
Me neither but I think the magnitude of my estimate is way better than the other one given here. ;)
jaunty jetty
we have different interpretations of the salary description
1.5$ per hour per hour having done the job
after 40 hours you're getting 60$ per hour more than you started with
the typo is obvious, they meant +1.5$/hr per year of work experience
but what they've stated is an hourly compounding pay scale
dusty citrus
No. Not even a little.
jaunty jetty
entirely
dusty citrus
quel surprise
jaunty jetty
if you work a job, it's expected you will receive wage increases periodically, many companies do it on a rigid yearly basis
if you were going to compound hourly, why would it be different
they're asserting that (given the typo) they care 1.5$ per hour about how many years you've worked, so one would expect the regular wage increases to reflect approximately the same rate
someone with 5 years experience hiring in should be paid approximately the same as someone who was hired without experience 5 years ago, ignoring changes in the economy
there's no reason to treat the literal interpretation of their silly typo as functioning differently
dusty citrus
My 'no' was in no way provisional.
jaunty jetty
I don't know what that means
dusty citrus
That much is certain.
The best I can do is to suggest you show that to other people and ask them what it means, without first telling them what it means (the ad with the salary).
But I personally cannot be of further assistance in this matter.
jaunty jetty
if you had worked one year as a dispatcher prior to applying, that would be 1920 hours, 2880$ per hour on top of the initial wages of approximately 19$ per hour
putting you at just under 6 million dollars per year
vestal phoenix
@jaunty jetty Hmmm, that salary description seems proper. An additional $1.50 added to whatever normal or base hourly rate when you work as a dispatcher which is probably out of the scope or job description you normally work as.
jaunty jetty
1.5$ per hour per hour
vestal phoenix
probably same mathematics in Uber rush hour pricing.
jaunty jetty
Its talking about work experience
vestal phoenix
most would indicate - "commensurate with experience". That snippet points to something like the bonus rate or extra you get for working overtime or something not in your normal job duties.
jaunty jetty
The intended text is 1.50$ per hour for each year of experience working as a dispatcher
Also, it would be a crime if they mean overtime
Overtime is 1.5 times wages
vestal phoenix
I don't what the full job that this salary description is for but say it is for a bus driver. The dispatcher has a more complex job that pays $1.50 more per hour than a driver. If the driver gets called to do dispatch, they will get paid $1.50 more per hour.
jaunty jetty
The job is 911 dispatcher
Theres no alternate context wages at play, just being a dispatcher, and the listing claims you get an additional dollar per hour, per hour worked as a dispatcher
Dollar and half, I tire, the gremlins are catching up with me
vestal phoenix
I dunno, I guess that needs to be clarified before you go into the interview by asking them beforehand. I don't know 911 dispatch operations so maybe you are dispatching only when your phone line is active or on shift but you are titled as a dispatcher or work in some other area of operations.
jaunty jetty
Or, occam's razer, there is absolutepy nothing to suggest anything like that
vestal phoenix
But the big part of job hunting is researching the company you want to apply to. And job postings could be teasers from head hunters.
They work off of commissions by finding people to fill jobs.
jaunty jetty
I dont apply to tertiary hirers because they're indestinguishable from identity theft
vestal phoenix
Here's the thing with job postings. You have to read into them like real estate listings. They may be worded just for curb appeal or to grab attention. It's caveat emptor or up to you to figure things out. If you are out there looking for something, good luck.
jaunty jetty
But they're so much worse than real estate
This is clearly a typo, but some of them are just insane
Entry level internship, must have masters degree and 7 years experience, 11$/hour
Must know the following object oriented programming languages: css, windows, agile, spanish
The term analyst, doesnt mean anything
There's this one company that keeps spamming jobs in my area but they're actually two thousand miles south, in florida, harvesting oranges, minimum wage, must be an immigrant
At least when a house listing lies to you, it's still a house
abstract violet
I would like an acapella version of "O is for Ohm" 😃
pretty pleaaase @pure epoch :3
karaoke version 😃
grave crest
@vestal phoenix Quirky, cozy cottage. Read: "Quriky= room layout that makes no sense. Cozy= not a lot of space."
jaunty jetty
that's rather generous
most people would say cozy = small
@grave crest a youtuber mitzela has posted a video about solving problems that are made difficult by limitations in the programming environment, but it uses that esoteric language with the curse word in it's name, is there any way to overcome this and make it acceptable to link to?
grave crest
If the video is family friendly itself, and the rest of his content is such -- link to his youtube channel and give a redacted name to the video.
jaunty jetty
also the stylophone business card, nice piece of PCB design
so the video is at a high level about making a tic tac toe game and AI opponent but I'm going to argue that it's actually about how sometimes it's hard to do simple things but you can still make it work
there's also a good lesson about compartmentalizing your programs so you don't have to hold an understanding of the whole thing at once
grave crest
@jaunty jetty Thanks for the link, and for your discretion with the name of the video. It is appreciated 😃
dusty citrus
For Adabox recipients: this is a current tracking (UPS) for a non-Adabox (routine) Adafruit order.
Snipped out further progress; the clip is meant to show that it does in fact leave the (good) State of New York, and arrives in another state's UPS facility.
safe sable
I have a case/stand out for delivery today. Ordered it on the 24th of September so the shipping time coming from NY is quick.
jaunty jetty
if you are in public, and you find a rock, and you keep the rock, have you commited a crime?
vestal phoenix
Depends on the rock. I'm sure you just can't load up Plymouth Rock in your truck and haul it away. Beach sand is also contested. We have public parks here, actually designated national wetlands preserve/marshlands that if you pick the flowers or weeds(phragmites which are native and essential for erosion check), you are destroying the ecosystem there.
vestal phoenix
@safe sable rasp pi with some sort of big display? What are you going to make with it?
safe sable
its mainly going to be my programming machine i have a separate SD with retro pie on it if i want to emulate games. I am entirely new to this but have enrolled into a python class.
vestal phoenix
Good for you. You will probably get drawn into making custom controllers to hook up too.
safe sable
Already looking into building my own but it is alot to learn.
vestal phoenix
One step at a time, enjoy the journey.
jaunty jetty
.....
Teen Librarian
must be at least a 7th grader
18.50~25.50$ per hour depending on experience
spice moss
in http://twitch.tv/primevideo there is Vikings vs Rams game
jaunty jetty
how do you play?
dusty citrus
Try statements instead of questions. ;)
Really done with the whole questions thing.
vestal phoenix
@dusty citrus Answers must be phrased in the form of a question? I'll take capacitors for 400 microfarads.
jaunty jetty
@vestal phoenix Capacitors for 400 microfarads :: Ewald Georg von Kleist
vestal phoenix
Ah, interesting. Someone probably got the movie rights to the story already.
jaunty jetty
it'd be a difficult movie to sell given all the many things english speaking audiences would say aren't real
he studied jurisprudence at the universities of Leipzig and Leyden in Farther Pomerania under Willem's Gravesande, and was the dean of the cathedral at Kammin, then later the royal court justice of Koslin
why does this guy have a space in his name? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_'s_Gravesande
I feel like somebody regexed a name out of this article and left behind a bunch of possessives
dusty citrus
vestal phoenix
Design on a dime. https://www.instructables.com/id/gmjhowes-Managers-Command-and-Control-Seat-of-Ri/
dusty citrus
@vestal phoenix Sometimes, a presenter of information will solicit questions as a means of engaging their audience. This is marked by a reluctance to do so -- to give permission for this to happen. That implies the ground state (of politeness in that one venue) is to not ask questions, vis a vis Heckler's Veto.
Usually, the dead silence (they were otherwise expecting) damages the overall effectiveness of their talk.
Newcomers here (Discord) are expected and solicited to ask good (hopefully, focused) questions to gain (for example) #help-with-projects and that's a good thing.
In our Computer Club (1989) the Club President ran the meeting once a month, in somebody's basement. During my tenure, I became a magnet for Heckler's Veto; people treated the meeting as an opportunity to have fun in this manner.
It was fine for a year (not very productive) and we were all friends -- but it generated a very different kind of meeting than, say, CircuitPython Weekly does, here (Today).
spice moss
https://discuss.dev.twitch.tv/t/welcome-to-a-new-more-intuitive-developer-rig/17953 if you like to put your project controllable from stream viewers
late fulcrum
I was at a comic artist talk once, and we had several artists that were fairly well-known in the comics world, and Frank Cho, who is well known in general. However, Cho was late. After the usual questions on how to break into the comics biz, there was a deadly silence. So I started tossing out goofy questions (such as "You're an inker: how are your fingernails clean?") so the panel wouldn't just be dead air. I ran into a couple of them later, and they gave me a gorgeous autograph and thanked me for keeping the panel going and fun.
jaunty jetty
truely running a panel is a skill
jaunty jetty
it's like a lunchbox but instead of lunch it contains Ada
dusty citrus
They're a cardboard box about yay big (11" max dimension or so?) about the size of a very large cigar box.
Inside are a curated (and themed) assortment of parts used to build interesting things. Generally at least one mainboard (embedded target MCU).
They're offered as a surprise-content subscription; some time after shipment, they are re-offered openly for a fixed price (generally without extras unique to the subscription version).
jaunty jetty
why does my bank keep sending me letters to inform me that if they were't my bank I could get free money by making them my bank....
dusty citrus
because 'me' isn't 'me' there
karmic kite
A day of pulling cables for IoT devices makes me really appreciate electricians
200 cables, 400 punch downs, a lot of random monitors everywhere
jaunty jetty
luck you, what's the project?
karmic kite
Had a client who moved buildings, about half of their employees are blind, so installing devices for ease of access and HCI
jaunty jetty
HCI?
karmic kite
Human computer interactions
jaunty jetty
must be really out of the ordinary to need to design a space around such a high rate of not being able to expect the normal half-considered design features will work at all
karmic kite
it was a really interesting experience, from furniture placement, tactile buttons everywhere, a variety of different monitors for various viewing needs
one thing they still haven't figured out is how to allow people to get inside on there own, as theres a large parking lot with no side walk leading to the building
jaunty jetty
I wonder if there's a way to introduce sound as an element of interior design in a way that is't really irritating
jaunty jetty
maybe for the parking lot you could have a series of posts that make a noise and the noise travels from one end of the parking lot to the entrance
they have the crosswalk things where it beeps so you can always locate the corner you're going to by sound, and it informs you when it's supposed to be safe to cross
karmic kite
I like that idea if it were not for the parking lot and no control of vehicles
jaunty jetty
is there any way it could be structured to have a dedicated walking area?
there are some parking lots around here that have a designated walking path between the rows of cars, they're very uncommon, but that would also give you somewhere to place the posts
karmic kite
need to get from red circle to red circle
jaunty jetty
and none of this belongs exclusively to the place
karmic kite
nope
jaunty jetty
I assume bottom right is a bus stop?
jaunty jetty
if there's a power source you could install a call button for an attendant
well, power and permission
jaunty jetty
it could definitely run on a battery but then the battery is a thing to be concerned about
karmic kite
its a non profit, so also has to be fairly cheap solution as well
jaunty jetty
and it's a device installed in the public, so eventually somebody's going to smash it with a hammer made of frozen urine and spraypaint, on fire
karmic kite
and this is also canada, so withstand -45 Celcuis
jaunty jetty
needs to be durable, inexpensive, and can't require concern
karmic kite
and be able to use with out seeing it
jaunty jetty
it's a toughy
karmic kite
the guide option might be the best at the current moment
jaunty jetty
if you can get authorization, audio beacon posts still seem like an idea, but this is really just a terrible problem
if even the bus stop was on the other side of that driveway it'd be a huge improvement
karmic kite
its a really terrible location in general. the road on the left side is an offramp to the freeway
jaunty jetty
would it be possible or reasonable to work with the bus service to have a connecter service that runs from a nearby safe place to wait that is on the main bus line, to the front door?
it couldn't run as frequently of course
karmic kite
unfortuanatly our bus service is severely under funded. its mostly used by 17000 undergrads who get a 75% discount on their bus pass. which I've been saying for a while is ridiculous
actually if they could just loop up into the mall for the bus service. it might slow down the bus line slightly but it could be done
jaunty jetty
you're not going to talk them into doing it every time, but I assume blind passengers rely on the driver's assistance already
and most times the bus stops they won't have a blind passenger
jaunty jetty
this might be a big thing, but maybe an app?
get like hey siri/ok google integration to begin a brief voice guide into the area
if you're able to make reliable walking directions to navigate through a parking lot and give hazard alerts like "you're near a road" or "you're walking past parked cars", then you could start to grow it out so other similar facilities have entry/exit guides with hand configured paths, it should be reasonable to build the tool for that on google maps laying poly lines
karmic kite
that really shouldn't be difficult at all really...
jaunty jetty
I know android does a lot to be available to visually impaired people, although ok google is just continuously worse at everything except being a disappointment, do blind people commonly have phones?
smartphones*
karmic kite
that Im not sure of. I know they have many devices to aid them but not sure about smart phones
karmic kite
local electronics store sells RPi3 for 78$ CAD
karmic kite
yep.. they're always ridiculously overpriced
jaunty jetty
is it a kit or just the board?
karmic kite
just the board
jaunty jetty
I really hope you have a better option, even with bad import fees and the VAT, 45, 50USD at the outside, above that is just unreasonable
jaunty jetty
and only for orders over 200$ I think
and you'd probably have to pay import stuff from Ada
jaunty jetty
that's not too far above 50USD, I'll take it, we can keep the world for now
karmic kite
These trade wars are starting to get annoying
mild thicket
i design electronics for a global manufacture.... the trade warz are disruptive and likely to cause 10 - 25% hit in profits....
karmic kite
*are causing
dusty citrus
The absurdity of creating large parking lots is probably apparent to you at this juncture.
There is no safe way for pedestrians to be anywhere near motor vehicles in motion.
12:1 mass differential, plus speed.
I did an experiment. I rode my bicycle in the lane, against oncoming traffic.
Universally, the motorists did not yeild, and came at me as if to run me over.
Then I rode in the exact same distance from the curb, only this time, with my back to the overtaking traffic.
jaunty jetty
this is why people shouldn't be allowed to drive
dusty citrus
Universally (again) .. they gave me plenty of berth.
jaunty jetty
professionals maybe
dusty citrus
The only difference was they knew I could see them while facing them.
A cyclist is definitely entitled to ride exactly where the right wheel of the automobile tracks.
That's about 3.5 feet from the curb.
But motorists disallow this, and it's a form of bullying.
What I've been doing lately is staying out about 5.5 feet from the curb, waiting until they start to pace me, then yeild to my right (ease over to about 2.5 ft from the curb).
For some reason, this makes them swing wider (about another 20 inches) than they would have passed me, if I'd been out of the way a few seconds sooner.
Cops and just a few other kinds of people pass me appropriately.
Once you've seen it done correctly you know what it's supposed to look like. ;)
I wear a big gaudy surveyor's vest (safety lime/yellow) with contrasting red stripes and the retroreflective stripes and all that. Even has the short sleeves, which adds to the side view.
And a big white hat. ;)
This totally eliminates the "I didn't see him" defense, and they know it. ;)
jaunty jetty
it helps when bicycle lanes are actually marked, I don't get how we expect people to respect abstract concepts that defy the presentation of reality
the right so many feet of the lane are not part of the lane and the car was never allowed to drive in them
dusty citrus
I've never encountered a bicycle lane except as a passenger in a motor vehicle (in Boston and in Hartford, more recently).
The cyclists look over-brave to me, in Hartford.
jaunty jetty
they're coming into fashion
in Ann Arbor the town is built for pedestrians but they're just getting around to making the design apparent so everybody's mad that things have visually changed to reflect what they legally were; I think it's a good move
dusty citrus
I used to think of motorists as a special form of sociopath; now I'm more apt to view them as simply untrained for the task.
jaunty jetty
In Royal Oak they added bicycle lanes to roads that were already too small, there are some parts of the lane where it's literally impossible to leave space for riders
dusty citrus
I hear that in Amsterdam and Copenhagen, the cyclists are super aggressive.
jaunty jetty
oh yea, in a lot of the netherlands cars aren't even allowed
the culture had pedestrians, bikes fit that, and when cars showed up everybody said nah
dusty citrus
My friend who's living there says they kick you and stuff as they ride past if you're a pedestrian and not keenly aware of them and gtfo of the way.
dusty citrus
I think that's super interesting as it spells out the end game of giving equal power to pedestrians and cyclist vs motorcars.
(I think what it says is that motorists would, if they could, kick you as they drove past you)
Think about that one. ;)
Also I find it very difficult to believe there'd be paved roads if there were no large vehicles (horse powered at least) to use them.
They just wouldn't do it for bicycles or pedestrians.
Probably have toll roads or something.
jaunty jetty
towns and cities would still be paved, brick paving is very old and the concrete industry would still exist at a similar scale
although you could argue pretty easily, if we didn't have large vehicles, things would have slowed down right around the first millenia
dusty citrus
'old' though also implies old ideas about when and where to place your .. wait for it .. army. ;)
Rome built the roads to move its armies about.
jaunty jetty
sure, bigger army politics has defined humanity for all-of-it, but towns like to have paved roads because they seem expensive, and they're pretty
dusty citrus
A friend of mine says the railroad guage is related to Roman road construction practice.
dusty citrus
It's that mud business that makes the cobblestones wanted.
jaunty jetty
mud's only a problem because it's not pretty, and therefore feels poor
dusty citrus
At summer camp one year there were flooding rains (almost) and the whole place turned to mud. It was amazing.
This is like .. I'd say minimum 7" yeild vertical as you tried to walk across it.
jaunty jetty
lost a shoe in my aunt's back yard to mud like that
dusty citrus
When it dries it is firm again and it's normal Earth at that point.
jaunty jetty
and it's a field of dirt, you don't just find a shoe 7" underground somewhere in a field
dusty citrus
These were well-traffic'd areas where there was no grass root system in place. Large 30' x 30' bare patches of ground with no grass at all.
jaunty jetty
this looks like fun http://i.imgur.com/UysxEsD.jpg
dusty citrus
that's awesome
jaunty jetty
I need video of this
dusty citrus
Oh I got (2MB SPI) flashROM working now for SAMD21.
I'm dumping files loaded the proper way through the host operating system, in Forth.
(haven't done any writing yet, except the demo which is algorithmic rather than real text)
jaunty jetty
I'm pretty sure this is essentially all manual... https://youtu.be/q8C0vhwR40s
dusty citrus
They probably use a substrate under it.
jaunty jetty
can't find a topdown video, but at the rate they're going, I think every brick is still placed by hand, just at table level
dusty citrus
Thanks for finding this. It's very interesting to know they do stuff like this.
(I used another word besides 'stuff' in my mind, as I typed that)
jaunty jetty
the ramp puts the work at a comfortable height, and the downward pressure of the bricks on the ramp push the bricks at the bottom together so it's tight, but yea this is still almost entirely manual
dusty citrus
Yeah they get to work in a comfortable body posture.
I think there's a carpet under the brick. It is behaving like it's in a sling where the angle changes to flat.
jaunty jetty
I don't know about that, they're still looking at their feet which is bad for the neck, but they'd be on their knees the traditional way
dusty citrus
Watching these videos reminds me of how many people work hard not because they want to but because they've been pressured into doing so.
jaunty jetty
the ramp is two sections of bars, the bottom section has a curved tip thatsmooths from tangent with the ground to tangent with the ramp
dusty citrus
Working in a road gang is a traditional punishment. ;)
jaunty jetty
you can see the bar grating best at about 2:10
dusty citrus
Yeah. 3:21 to 3:24 shows how it works.
It's just gravity.
The stones uphill pack those downhill from them.
dusty citrus
if you know nothing, making more measurements will not help you
from:
http://9front.org/who/cinap_lenrEk/
That's probably out of bounds.
jaunty jetty
idea, a set of shower knobs modified to be pullies and then there's cables wrapped around them and run in tubes to a box outside the shower, and then you have a fully revertable smart shower installation
the knobs on my shower only need about 30 degrees of movement, if there's a servo strong enough, this could be easy
just need knobs I can swap out, that are fairly cyclindrical
karmic kite
I've always wondered how hard it would be to make a bimetal valve that once you set your temperature in the shower, the metal flexes to keep it at relatively the same temperature
jaunty jetty
in pure mechanical terms I think it'd be pretty tough to pull off, and if you involved electronics then it'd be best to eliminate the bimetal system in favor of any other mechanism
dusty citrus
There's something about a check valve in the weaker water pressure of the two lines (hot, cold) to prevent foo from happening when you're in the shower.
It's a retrofit meant to fix foo simply.
jaunty jetty
apparently there's a thing called a thermostatic valve
I think they use wax motors, much stronger than bimetal elements
it's not wax, it's something called an SMA spring "shape memory alloy", not sure if that's a fancy word for bimetal
karmic kite
slightly different idea
jaunty jetty
well, it's basically what you asked for almost exactly. You need to balance-regulate before the thermostatic valve, but then the SMA spring shrings and grows based on the temperature of the mixed water, if it gets cold it shifts a valve shuttle to block the cold water and increase the hot water. The adjust knob preloads a normal spring to bias the system against cold
jaunty jetty
@dusty citrus how hard is it to do custom length bike brake lines?
karmic kite
Sorry yes the thermostatic is the same, SMA from bimetal is slightly different
I'm wondering why thermostatics are used more often in showers and such
jaunty jetty
bimetal elements don't maintain accuracy over long periods
dusty citrus
@jaunty jetty I've done mine several times. It's easy.
You buy a 25' roll of brake housing, and a good cuttting tool.
Brake cables come in only two lengths: regular and tandem length.
Many come with two lead ends; one for drop bars and the other for mountain levers.
The mountain end looks like a tiny hockey puck.
The other one is closer in shape to an acorn. ;)
Jagwire branded is the only way to go.
For brakes iirc you want to get the 'ferrules'.
For gear shift cable I have forgotten if they're the same or not.
iirc brake housing is a spiral and shift cable housing is parallel wires (maybe a dozen or so, that run the length of the housing).
I use Park Tool CN-10 USD $35 to cut housing
dusty citrus
I have about 15 pcs left in this bottle:
https://wheelsmfg.com/products/cables-housing/casing-ferrules/icf-bot2.html
I wrote by hand 'Resell 75 cents each' on the barcode sticker .. probably 12 years ago. ;)
The kits come with ferrules but they aren't nearly as nice as these are.
sleek urchin
well, one benefit of this new NAFTA deal is apparently the de minimis limit for imports from the US to Canada is getting increased
from $20 CDN previously to... well, at least $100 USD, if not more
(I hope more)
jaunty jetty
what's a de minimis? minimum transaction to qualify for the tarrifs?
sleek urchin
well, to be assessed for normal duties
eg. sales tax
so, if I ordered $50 of stuff from Adafruit, if hit with duties, that'd likely be the 15% HST for this province (not terrible). the sucky part is the brokerage fees ALL the carriers want
which is $10+
jaunty jetty
so before, if you bought a 14$ sandwich, you wouldn't have to pay taxes in both places, and now you can buy a few sandwiches before you have to?
sleek urchin
ugh, nevermind. the threshold for charging taxes is $40
up from $20
which still sucks because of the brokerage fees
oh, and it looks like TN Visas are unchanged
that's very good
I was worried about that
jaunty jetty
40$ is still an improvement
there's probably a lot of marginal business that's now clear
sleek urchin
shipping is still sooo expensive
dusty citrus
(from p.28) http://fqa.9front.org/dash1.runfromzone.pdf
0.2.3 Why did Plan 9's creators give up on Plan 9?
vestal phoenix
@dusty citrus tl:dr The first rule of Plan 9 is that there is no Plan 9.
small ember
testing gif import
abstract violet
mystery science theatre
late fulcrum
When I was younger, I was intrigued by one of the characters in The Incredible Journey, an old dog called "Bodger". Toward the end of the film, we find out his real name is "Ch. Boroughcastle Brigadier of Doune", but everyone calls him Bodger. The term is also a Britishism for someone who makes slapdash circuitry known as bodges. I started using that as a username in a variety of places, but kept running into that name being taken, hence "madbodger".
jaunty jetty
Ch.ancellor?
late fulcrum
I'll admit I'm unsure what the "Ch." is.
jaunty jetty
Borough Castle is a town, Doune is a town, Brigadier is a military rank slightly below the various kinds of General (and sometimes part of the various kinds of general), Chancellor makes sense
.ch is switzerland
TLDs probably didn't exist at the time
it's the postcode area for Chester in the UK
late fulcrum
I read one definition of "bodge" that went something like "an assemblage that consists more of electrical tape than anything else."
jaunty jetty
late fulcrum
I can envision a dog as a "companion of honour", so that kind of works.
jaunty jetty
I just woke up and I'm exhausted, so let's go with that
late fulcrum
I woke up too early, as they are noisily building something across the street. It appears to be a mound of dirt. A string of dump trucks come in and unload more dirt, and a bulldozer pushes it around. I thought having a retirement community across the street would mean quiet neighbors.
First they came and graded a footpath, added crushed stone and asphalt. Then they added nice ADA-friendly concrete ramps (which were immediately obliterated by Florence). Now a huge mound?
jaunty jetty
they're transitioning to Hobbit Holes
jaunty jetty
would you apply to a job listing on the internet proportedly from Computer And Technologies Incorporated
karmic kite
talking about it in project help, how many techies suffer from imposter syndrome?
aside from myself
soft thicket
This is pretty great to watch! it makes me want to get into RC wings and im already stuck in the miniquads rabbit hole...
jaunty jetty
Peter does a lot of great stuff, he doesn't always explain much but I think he does a great job of showing the important thoughts through cinematography to make up for it; plus it's edited to be entertainment. A lot of his videos are just really dumb ideas with just the right effort and consideration to make it work and I think that's a really important mindset to spread in society. You don't always have to try super hard, but if you try at all you can do some crazy stuff
like when he made a functioning plane out of bread
soft thicket
I agree this was a dumb idea but he executed it very well!
jaunty jetty
and like how the wings on that air boat are just folded foamcore board
you could put days and dollars into building a system to cut perfect multidimensional aerofoils out of block foam, and then skin it in tape; or you just get a big sheet, score some parts, cut some parts, fold twice, add some tape for strength, 97% the same result
the former needs a CNC router or a hot wire cutter, hours of design work, a bunch of research, and a considerable amount of actual touching stuff with your skin. The latter is like, foam core, tape, a knife, 15 minutes, you'll learn iteratively what proportions make a decent wing, it's not rocket anthropology.
karmic kite
We got really crazy and made a cnc hot wire cutter for foam airfoils... and we went back to doing it by hand as it was way faster
jaunty jetty
CNC is only the right choice when you need precision, particularly when what you want is difficult to be precise about like making puzzle peices that need to fit together but are all curvy; or you want to make 500 and need better accuracy in a repeating process (aka, accuracy)
even then I'm gonna bet you could make a pattern following hotwire system that would be a few times faster; then use the CNC to make patterns
karmic kite
yea, you cut out a couple peices of mdf on the laser cutter and use that to trace
jaunty jetty
you'd want to use a CNC router for something like a curved wing, where the hot wire cannot cut at the interior regions of a concave hull; of course with some pivot points you could still use hot wire to carve out the convex bounding hull, and with a 5 axis rig you could inefficiently carve out a lot of the interior regions. For manufacturing what you'd want to do is the bounding hull, and then a small number of 5 axis cuts to remove the bulk of the router's work so that the labor left for it to do slowly is at a minimum
or you could skip the router and sand it
I wonder if Adafruit has guidelines for the hazards of learn projects it does; like a hotwire cutter would be cool and appropriate, especially if they made it super safe, but it's always going to be a tool that children shouldn't have without a parent
karmic kite
I've seen so many neat contraptions for it like hand held ones and such
jaunty jetty
me too, although a number strike my as dangerously unsafe from an electrical or OSHA perspective
like, if it's a handheld tool it should have a deadman switch, and if it runs on AC mains it should be on an isolation transformer, current limited, and probably dropped to a more reasonable voltage
oh, and if it were me I'd build a GFCI socket into it, and a surprizing number don't have fuses
and so I propose: Adafruit's Hypersafe Unsafe Tool Design Learn Page Thing
late fulcrum
You mentioned unsafe line voltage practices?
karmic kite
Sounds like high voltage safety could be a frequent problem there
proven olive
That power cord makes me terrified.
main kiln
That image took me a second to realize what was so messed up. I thought about the power aspect, maybe it was too short. I thought about the applications of it, and found a few where that could work. Then I realised that it just allowed you to plug two sources into each other. It took me way longer than I would like to admit.
late fulcrum
There are a few issues with double-male cords like that. If they aren't polarized, it's possible to plug both ends into live circuits, with one reversed: short circuit. If it's plugged into a live circuit, the other prongs are live: electrocution hazard.
There are four kinds of people that use cords like that that I know. The most common are people "borrowing" power from another house. Next are people hooking up a generator. Then there are the people who've strung their tree with lights, but the end they can get to is the socket end, so they want a plug-to-plug so they don't have to restring their lights. The last group is people making patch panels.
sleek urchin
freebies https://store.steampowered.com/app/402390/Hyperdrive_Massacre/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/491950/Orwell_Keeping_an_Eye_On_You/
proven olive
@late fulcrum We've used a cord like that for a generator once. Have to do things just right to not cause issues with circuit breakers and the like. Not to mention it bypasses circuit breakers where you plug it in, too...
dusty citrus
I had the bad judgement of wiring a standard two-prong plug and cord to the 12 VDC input of a radio, which worked fine for me for a number of years (everything else was standard).
Unfortunately, when I gifted the radio to a friend (along with a lot of other stuff including other radios) I forgot to tell him about it, so (of course) he plugged it into the 120 VAC outlet in his home, without opening the radio's cabinet and having a quick look around, first.
I think it was a Kenwood R-300.
spice moss
@swift hatch your spookyness https://www.instagram.com/p/BoecyyKgw33/?taken-by=impressivethingspage
swift hatch
SO GOOD and CREEEEPY!
wispy roost
late fulcrum
I did something like that one year. I had a lecture video projector with a green CRT, aimed it at sheer curtains, and played random horror movie laserdiscs. It was reasonably effective for its time.
jaunty jetty
I wonder how powerful of a laser pointer you would need to cut foamcore board
ooo, my manual pick'n'place design would work for a laser, since there's no cutting force
how would you zero a laser pointer
anybody got an opinion about good cheap servos? I just want to own some for projects like this cat feeder
spice moss
with small projector could make pretty great halloween prop
spice moss
@swift hatch there is that miniprojector for raspberrypi zero
main kiln
For a laser, you generally would use end stops for homing, or use micro-pulses if it gives off enough light
And foam doesn't take too much energy to cut, but you would be better off just attaching a wire wand cutter
karmic kite
@jaunty jetty hobbyking has been my goto for years now
late fulcrum
I second HobbyKing for kit like that.
sweet mango
Beautiful.
jaunty jetty
that face when you go to banggood because you forgot it's not hobbyking and on the front page it's suggesting you buy an egg shaped squishy panda, 2 cheap drones, and a minaiture chainsaw presumibly for the drones
dusty citrus
if you hadn't said that the world wouldn't have ended n years hence. Too late to take it back, now.
(chainsaw) butterfly effect.
they really sting!
dusty citrus
I got caliper http://adafru.it/3720
It's more self-referential than cryptic. I think I would remember what I meant in 5 years (okay, 3 years) just by rereading it.
If it's truly cryptic I myself won't be able to tell you what it means, not too long from now.
jaunty jetty
so, I can go on hobbyking, banggood, ermerzern, mouser, etc, and buy a servo for 2.50 and up, or I can buy these 20 servos on amazon for less than a dollar each https://www.ebay.com/itm/20X-Car-Boat-9G-SG90-Micro-Servo-For-RC-Robot-Helicopter-Airplane-Aircraf-Motor/223145062054
why is it I shouldn't buy the 20 china motors?
dusty citrus
I just don't; but that's a combination of factors.
I'm going to guess 'repeatability' and 'timliness of delivery' as factors.
jaunty jetty
let's assume that the delivery isn't important, say this was amazon and you just needed 12$ to get free shipping but for some reason it was still going to be bad shipping, you don't really need the servos for anything
what's the measure of repeatability in servos?
is it that you might not be able to reliably purchase more of these?
dusty citrus
good party word: Schubfachprinzip
I would go with dimensions for repeatability error - funky gear teeth count and so forth; actual changed dimensions. Maybe an oddball range of motion (degrees of arc maximum travel)
Torque.
(Like not knowing in advance what torque they are rated for)
dusty citrus
jaunty jetty
the CATCO is armed and loaded, in 12 hours the kitties should get their first meal. If everything works well then they're just going to be freaked out that I disappeared for 3 days, if not, I'm probably going to have a lot of animal waste to clean up
(Cat Automatic Taker Carer Of)
btw, I'm going to try to design a more permanent version of this using laser cut acrylic, some kind of cheap ubiquitous hinges, and servos instead of motors, it's gonna be swizzle
the acrylic one is going to use my original design with 4 boxes in a square rather than 4 boxes in a row, the doors will rest on the servo horns and when activated the horns will move to release the doors, much simpler than what I ended up with because I couldn't source a servo for less than 9$ in time
abstract violet
This shows a 6-pin silicon chip inside a roughly 1mm x 2mm ceramic package – as often used for capacitors and other so-called ‘passive’ components, which are typically overlooked.
dusty citrus
every vote matters when you know you don't like the other candidate.
(that's generic enough to pass the sniff test around here, I reckon)
dusty citrus
Pinnae (external ears) are also a distinctive trait that is a therian exclusivity
from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theria
David DeGrazia states that there are three types of self-awareness in animals; the first being, bodily self-awareness. This sense of awareness allows animals to understand that they are different from the rest of the environment; it is also the reason why animals do not eat themselves.
.oO( .. I. "Hmm this is really good! ..")
.oO(.. II. "Darn - I did it again. This is the third time this week I tried to eat my own leg." )
grave crest
🍖 mumbles Huhwaa?
silver shale
anyone heard about the Qualcomm DragonBoard
abstract violet
I have, are you looking at it @silver shale ?
silver shale
yes
silver shale
Kodi can be ran on the DragonBoard 410
sleek urchin
the DragonBoard? yeah, it's been out a couple of years
in fact, you can actually buy the SnapDragon 410c (commercial variant, with longer term support) and chipset off Arrow in one offs
a full chipset is like $35 (so including GPS and wifi and BT and power management)
plush raven
jaunty jetty
Mspgothic frevr
abstract violet
@silver shale The white space after each character on the impact version looks a bit misaligned, cooper black version has more symmetry and balance. What is your design rationale? If you give us what your design objectives are we can give better feedback.
jaunty jetty
have any of y'all looked at this china hack chip thing? it's looking like fake news
tldr, Bloomberg reported that there's been supplychain attack on SuperMicro motherboards where a submillimeter chip was installed on their motherboards and it was able to access the ethernet controller, and the memory
this is the image bloomberg has used, I see no reason to believe this is actually the chip in question and some of their other imagery suggests the chip is less than half this size in all dimensions https://s3media.freemalaysiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FMT-AppleAmazonChinachip-Bloomberg.jpg
if it's a dip6 SMD with some kind of ATMEGA, it could be using I2C or SPI, which is likely enough to be on various chips across a motherboard including ethernet controllers, I doubt it would be on x86 class memory controllers but maybe lower level ones
the big thing in my eyes is a microcontroller you could fit inside a chip this small is going to have super minimal space for program and data, meaning it can't have a complicated tactics to deal with minor variations in target chips and catalogs of different instruction sets to even be able to communicate with them
late fulcrum
You can fit a fairly powerful microcontroller in that footprint.
jaunty jetty
powerful sure, but how much memory can it have
memory/storage/flash/etc
so assuming the best case attack, this chip communicates with the IPMI host to inject both a backdoor, and through the IPMI manipulate the ethernet controller to allow access through the machine because these are in hardened networks, a back door in the middle of a secure facility is rather hard to access; then you need to proliferate the chip across servers and network devices to establish pathways into the networks depths to even access useful devices
late fulcrum
Plenty. With modern semiconductor processes, you can cram a bunch of storage on a die 700µm on a side. If you need more (and you're motivated), you can shave/stack dice to get even more.
jaunty jetty
the chip needs to be able to communicate with the IPMI, and have space left for a multi-level payload
late fulcrum
You've just put your finger on the real problem: instead of restricting low-level access to a hardened network, they want the engineers to be able to connect from anywhere in the world and reboot an errant server. The security model is frankly terrible.
jaunty jetty
although to be fair the payload can be compressed on the attack chip
the engineers?
the supposed* chip is not supposed to be on these boards
(*everybody bloomberg says is afflicted with this attack says it never happened)
late fulcrum
In short, as soon as you give low-level hardware access to servers, and connect it to the internet, it's over.
jaunty jetty
true, but the first rule of security is put it in a box, put that box in a box, mail it to yourself and when it arrives, smash it with a hammer
late fulcrum
Right. It's surprising how few people treat security that way.
jaunty jetty
if you have a setup like amazon, very specific servers should have very specific capacity to interact with very specific other servers, cloud hosting is really good for distributing workload but it's also magnificent for creating boxes to contain systems and carefully restrict how things interact
late fulcrum
Amazon is missing many critical clues regarding security (yes, even their "extra-secure" government enclave).
jaunty jetty
if your fileservers are each behind individual routers and firewalls and load balancers in their own rack, and each row has them too, and each room has them too, and each facility has them too, and you're able to restrict the traffic from this one file server in a rack somewhere so that it can only communicate with a certain class of server that hosts a kind of node that forwards, etc etc etc, and that server gets a virus, what can the virus do other than destroy the one server, which you have 5 copies of and frequently reinstall for security reasons
can't name names but when I was working in a datacenter we had a cloud host client and all their servers were set up so when they booted they'd check if anything was weird, and if it was weird it'd PXE boot off the network and reinstall itself
all that was in bios
late fulcrum
The virus can take over every server, firewall, and router in the network, for starters.
jaunty jetty
only if it can transmit from one machine to the next
late fulcrum
But having the hardware backdoor makes it worse. Now the virus can hop networks too, and leave persistent infections in the hardware, so your "check for something weird" won't work any more, ALL the networks are infected, and network boot is compromised as well.
jaunty jetty
that's a fairly different circumstance
late fulcrum
However it isn't: that's exactly what the china chip hack enables.
jaunty jetty
computerized voting has to do a lot of stuff in uncontrolled spaces over uncontrolled links
karmic kite
Theres a lot of advances made in crypto, however we are far from having a reliable one
jaunty jetty
yea I was on a different tangent; the chip is only a threat if it's proliferated, this was more of a software cloud security rant
karmic kite
fair
jaunty jetty
if there is one contiguous route from the file server to an edge router, yer bleeped
if there's non-contiguous routes that are near eachother in physical network space, so much of your security is compromised
late fulcrum
Yup. There's a reason I don't store any data I wouldn't want to escape on AWS.
jaunty jetty
well also AWS isn't designed to be secure
if you can guess a hash you can access a file
I'm not sure if imgur is on AWS but they use the same basic system, every file gets a hash, if the hash already exists in the cloud you get a reference to the existing instance, that way there's no duplicate information being stored and they can 'sell' the same space repeatedly
if we both upload an image and it's the same image, or the same via a deterministic conversion to jpg, imgur stores one file and we both get links
with AWS, theoretically if we both upload a .txt file that contains the same text, it generates the same hash, one copy gets stored, 2 links get generated; but then if a third person were to guess the hash, that serves as authority to access the file
dusty citrus
.oO(Consumer-hobbyist grade, flying, autonomous, decision-making chainsaw drones; made by manufacturers competing for the lowest as-delivered pricing structure.. )
item: OFF SWITCH .. price reduction: USD $ 0.03 per unit
jaunty jetty
in the earlier conversation I was tempted to say at one point "AWS has these problems, but Google has never been hacked!"
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/08/google-shutting-down-google-plus/
drifting oasis
Anyone like MUSE?
jaunty jetty
the band?
btw CATCO report: 2 meals fired, 2 meals jammed, cat food has a high coefficient of friction on foamcore board so a lot of the food stayed on the ramp; many improvements are necessary and step one is to order a bunch of cheap servos
dusty citrus
Well I usually use the correct gender on google products, but that's as far as real-life mapping goes there.
So they reveal your fake demographics through an api. /big loss
otoh Facebook somehow decided I had a fake account and suspended it (had some simon says game in mind to reinstate I didn't bother to pursue).
They allowed me to keep my last (and only) fake account, for reasons I don't understand.
I rarely use it, and when I do, it's for less than an hour a month.
Google+ seemed irrelevant from the first time I saw it.
I think google is becoming crazy in the same way that government has become crazy.
jaunty jetty
eh, google's main problem is they change directions really often, and tend to make the worst possible changes to things that exist
drifting oasis
@jaunty jetty yes
jaunty jetty
I have listened to them, and enjoyed it, but not in a long time (no more radio, I don't tend to run into music)
dusty citrus
jaunty jetty
what about it?
dusty citrus
can't say here. ;)
dusty citrus
HEADS UP: tonight is the deadline to register to vote in most US states for the general election!
30-second voter registration check: https://www.whenweallvote.org/check-registration/
[if this is seen as promotion, my apologies, let me know and I'll nuke the post. This was the only website I could find that didn't seem to sway one way or another...]
abstract violet
Happy Thanksgiving @cursive pike and other fellow Canadians 😃
Thankful for Adafruit & The community 😃
cursive pike
@abstract violet Thanks! I am in an appropriate food coma, though we did not do a traditional dinner.
karmic kite
Happy Thanksgiving!
spice moss
madebyGoogle launch event start in 40mins about
jaunty jetty
?
that sounds fun
first result for MadeByGoogle on Google, @MadeByGoogle on twitter, second, Made By Google youtube channel, third, they're on instagram too, third, facebook also!
fourth, Google+
jaunty jetty
what's the difference between a threaded stud and a threaded rod?
main kiln
length?
abstract violet
Today I learned how to convert Altium Library files for Eagle then KiCad using library.io , had to redo the symbols but ended up saving myself from having to draw the footprints 😃
grave crest
Heading to the annual Hershey Car Show later this week....it'll be interesting to see how microelectronics are incorporated into vehicles there (if at all).
abstract violet
@grave crest made of c..chocolate :)??
jaunty jetty
https://youtu.be/lO6apKKWEDc
cryptomining router
grave crest
@abstract violet It's the same Hershey -- the swap meet and show actually takes place in the parking lots for the theme park.
I enjoy going there every year as a family thing.
abstract violet
sounds like fun! and sweet 🤤
mild thicket
@abstract violet hum... library.io the thingiverse of electrical part CAD?
dusty citrus
.oO(..the thing about wearing a signature hat is .. you gotta wear a hat..)
jaunty jetty
...
abstract violet
@polar ridge I guess so!
jaunty jetty
don't you hate it when the expensive part of your design turns out to be a weird bolt
there's a bunch of aluminum extrusion, still only like 50$, and then 35$ of sholder screws and spacers (gonna find a better deal on the spacers)
jaunty jetty
oh goooooooooood.
google disabled the HTML version of Gmail because people (like me) were using it to avoid their terrible new garbage version
karmic kite
still miss google+ ?
jaunty jetty
I don't but I never used it. Objectively it's the only social media platform of that category I would consider
I use twitter and reddit infrequently but they're very different things, I stopped using facebook nearly a decade ago
main kiln
You know what I love. When a game you play almost daily suddenly begins to suffer a bundle of ping spikes and packet jitter.
Because after a while, you assume it is on your end
And so you buy new cables, move your router position, check your router settings, look at the game config, uninstall and reinstall the game...
Nothing
Then 2 weeks later, a patch pops out, and voila. Fixed.
Lovely
And to prove a point to myself, I went back to an identical configuration, cables and all, and it is fine.
abstract violet
@main kiln argh! which game is this?
sand tapir
spooky server logo? I like it
main kiln
Has white logo
is Halloween
make white Orange
skeledooty.webm
dusty citrus
SMT soldering video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiroWBkdFY
looks easier than I thought it would be
jaunty jetty
you want a challenge? https://youtu.be/edERx4x5eY0
dusty citrus
storage
storage
I bond those storage boxes in twos or threes, which makes them a bit less fumble+ly
They fit into a finished cardboard box the largest dimension of which is about 11" or so (8.5D x 5.5H x 11.75W)
Wesley Crusher, if you're listening (sometime in the distant future):
Make a robot that only does the following: find a box in someone's living quarters, open it, photograph the contents (from several angles, including handling individual objects inside the box), then close the box and put it back.
Do this throughout the living quarters, while the occupant is away (at their day job).
That's all. ;)
The Computer can catalog it all, from there.
tender nimbus
stuck moth
@sand tapir @dusty citrus made the new logo!
sand tapir
Nice
dusty citrus
Thanks @sand tapir
spice moss
xbox streams http://www.game4paul.com charity what Paul Walker charity and his brother and paul friends is helping his charity going
abstract violet
Found these really interesting tactile buttons with built in LED’s that are unlike what I’ve encountered so far http://akizukidenshi.com/download/ds/citizen/ls6.pdf
http://ce.citizen.co.jp/productse/info.php?no=149
spice moss
@abstract violet could those be good for @stuck moth for his keypad?
abstract violet
@spice moss hard to find them at a reasonable price
spice moss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwqccxKUULU I used lumia 2520 and lumia 1520 to shoot this was good after it
stuck moth
I think gateron keyboard keys just have light pipe to shine a smd led through
jaunty jetty
So there is now an overwhelming amount of evidence that the bloomberg article re chinese hacker chips, is at best speculative fiction, but definitely untrue
The attack vector is supported by theory, but there is no evidence it has actually happened, and multiple world governments along with the companies bloomberg claimed had found the hack chips on their equipment, all categorically say: this didnt happen
Oh and... Today... I dont have spellcheck in discord on my phone anymore...
main kiln
hmmmm
covert spire
@languid pagoda I just got bits to dress as that character for Hollow's Eve
languid pagoda
What character?
covert spire
Nick Wilde
abstract violet
@stuck moth not sure what was being referred to but yeah I don't think this is a suitable replacement for keyboard keys x)
jaunty jetty
project idea, one of those useless-device boxes where instead of using a finger it uses a solenoid to punch the switch closed, maybe with a 90 degree phase hinge, so it's not just a useless device, it's also an electricly resetable toggle switch
which is a product you can buy for like 700$
languid pagoda
Nice! @covert spire
dusty citrus
greys if you block several nicks it lumps them all into a single '45 blocked messages' type message.
So all you got to do is block lots of them then it's blocking bingo.
(like with a firing squad -- nobody knows who got the killshot, so they can all go home that night not-knowing)
jaunty jetty
doesnt solve the basic issue that i can see that
dusty citrus
I feel the same about tv commercials - it's difficult to keep my hand up to block the entire screen, take off the headphones so I can't hear the audio -- and not miss some of the interrupted program I'd intended to watch.
(all the while chanting a very unfriendly 'saying' 'against' the advertizer)
"I vow never to buy a Swiffer for any reason, foreign or domestic" as the SWIFFER is advertized for the 14th time that evening
" .. even if I want a Swiffer. Especially if I want a Swiffer."
karmic kite
so my enviroment variable just randomly cleaned itself out... time to reconfigure python, java, c#, docker, etc.
dusty citrus
#general-chat launched from a discussion in #help-with-projects on 7/17/2017.
one of the earliest posts here in #general-chat:
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/
I know two people who can't use touch screens because they just don't get it.
Tablets were a last-ditch effort to get them onto any internet-connected platform.
karmic kite
90% of people can get away with using a tablet for there daily computing needs
went to a talk this weekend about social engineering from a security analyst this weekend. users are not intelligent people
on an average fishing attack 48% of users will typically click the link
dusty citrus
I know a lot of dirt poor people who use handheld devices (larger smartphones I think) and seem to get something out of them, beyond making phone calls, and sending/receiving SMS (text) messages.
I have no idea what it is they're doing with them; I suspect it has something to to with messaging strangers on Facebook and the like.
jaunty jetty
Large phones are the main popular phone size in china, because most people there dont have other computers
Since the chinese market dwarfs america, chinese market trends are influencing products americans receive
dusty citrus
Many of them are probably learning the basics of when not to email another person -- remember when it seemed fun and the thinnest excuse to email someone caused you to go ahead and do so?
They all have to go through that phase in their emotional relationship to 'the internet' and all its participants.
I'm sure they spend some time trying to undo the damage they did earlier in the day, by an unwanted utterance.
jaunty jetty
Email is less of a thing the further you get from corporate america
dusty citrus
SMS and similar short message systems are even worse for creating mischief between parties. I don't know how viral it gets; Facebook chatting threads certainly engender unpleasant interactions.
jaunty jetty
More than half of the world uses Whatsapp instead of sms, and it makes email largely redundent
dusty citrus
We tried to get my mother onto a device -- any device, and it just didn't take. She was very isolated because of it, though in hindsight it probably wouldn't have mattered much if she had gained a few skills using this tech.
She went with the USD $50 Amazon Kindle Fire. The only good thing was she chose it herself, and felt empowered by steering off of what was recommended. ;)
She never did get the hang of the touch interface.
The other person I know really well became functionally blind after a good life of regular vision and high reading skill level.
She needed Google's voice keyboard in order to have a chance at using her tablet.
(btw the Roku's voice recognition is unusually good)
jaunty jetty
I've had the dangedest time convincing my mom that there is a usability difference between her free 20$ smart phone and a good phone
And my mom is good at computer
dusty citrus
Can you give her a decent unit? Is it just getting it into her hands, or will she have strong issues once she owns one?