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jaunty jetty
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it's a really weird resolution though

jaunty jetty
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only if money buffer-overflows and that ends up costing negative

stable vault
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lol I wished I got payed to spend money

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but 1366 x 768 used to be a vary popular resolution.

jaunty jetty
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so did 480i

stable vault
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so should 16k

silver shale
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very early CES hype

sleek viper
dreamy solstice
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I dont get it

dusty citrus
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Ruby.

ancient rivet
dreamy solstice
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oh

dusty citrus
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I didn't see it either. ;)

dreamy solstice
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I see the little LED

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heh

dusty citrus
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Anthropomorphic electronic parts. Next it'll be the word 'Philosophy' rendered as a stuffed toy.

... I wonder if there's a stuffed toy Saturn or Jupiter

dreamy solstice
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πŸ€”

dusty citrus
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(but enough pillow talk) /@proven olive

dreamy solstice
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soon

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there will be fidget spinner dolls

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I just know it

dusty citrus
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koyaanisqatsi

sleek viper
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I want a soft play mat designed like a circuit and soft circuit playground characters that magnetically connect and complete an actual circuit, a basic 555.

dusty citrus
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Someone did a magnetic set somewhere. Seen it (or photos of it). Probably 8-10 years back.

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Could have been one of those crowdfunded things.

dreamy solstice
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that'd be interesting

dusty citrus
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I'm actually surprised at how much interest they generate with the stuff that's already on the market for sale to the public.

sleek viper
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I was looking in to green felts but didn't get much further. I want to make circuits like in the videos

dreamy solstice
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would it damage a hard drive to store it in a pants pocket?

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I do have the pcb covered

jaunty jetty
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it could, your pants can generate static; however the bigger issue is: what are you doing to these pants?

dreamy solstice
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just normal walking around

jaunty jetty
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swimming? yea that'll hurt it, jogging? not a good plan, any kind of jumping? definitely not a good idea, getting hit by a car? I'd generally recommend against the sport

dreamy solstice
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what if I get it an enclosure?

jaunty jetty
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an anti-static bag would help

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external drives that are designed for travel have a brake mechanism so the disk spindle isn't dealing with the forces you subject it to, plus they're smaller so less massive anyway

dreamy solstice
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it's one of the single platter nearly quarter of an inch thick ones

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pulled it out of a old netbook

jaunty jetty
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yea that's probably got a brake

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although I find it hard to believe it's a single platter

dreamy solstice
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it's too thin to have a second platter

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(oh got the exact thickness; 7mm

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(or 0.275591"

dusty citrus
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Solid state was made for that.

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Platters weren't. Think laptop.

jaunty jetty
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yea, but you got what you got

dreamy solstice
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I cant afford an ssd

dusty citrus
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Fair enough. I have here an aluminum enclosure for an IBM laptop's hard disk drive.

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It's very form-fitting and adds little to the existing dimensions. It's meant not for any sort of padding as it were.

dreamy solstice
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I;m poor enough I just put duct tape over the pcb for static protection

dusty citrus
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I'd call it a 'caddy' though it is 100 percent enclosing.

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Why are you interested in carrying an HDD in your pocket at all?

dreamy solstice
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cheap and high capacity way of carrying my data

dusty citrus
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Why a pocket?

dreamy solstice
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it'd get crushed in my bag

dusty citrus
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Just protect it from static and pocket lint.

jaunty jetty
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I wouldn't expect a hard drive to survive in your pocket for more than maybe a few weeks

dreamy solstice
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I have, a "14 laptop, a "14 cooling pad, a keyboard, a charger, headphones, and a 240 watt cigarette light to 110v wall adapter in my bag

spice moss
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RFID proof bag

dusty citrus
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Is this a USB drive like the 'Passport' series?

dreamy solstice
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no, a SATA hdd

jaunty jetty
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from a netbook

dusty citrus
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How does it get united to anything else? Why carry it at all if you're not going to use it the same day?

dreamy solstice
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look, all I want to know is, is if there is a way I can safely keep an hdd in a pants pocket, I dont do a lot of running, or swimming or getting hit by cars

dusty citrus
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The handheld people used 'OtterBox' as their goto. Always heard that name mentioned.

jaunty jetty
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once, yea, twice, yea, indefinitely, no

dreamy solstice
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I'd only have it in my pocket when I take my laptop out of the house

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not every time I leave the house

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I just cant store it in my bag

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and I cant juggle a dozen bags either

jaunty jetty
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there are hard cases

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they're generally cheaper than enclosures

dusty citrus
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I'd use 1/4 inch neoprene encased in pack cloth and call it a day. Aluminum foil (maybe) for a quick wrap of the device itself, inside that. Finding a nice thin slippery insert that holds the drive and lets it insert swiftly into the real protection could be tricky.

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Pilots use special hardshell briefcases and brag on those.

dreamy solstice
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I can do that

dusty citrus
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I think most people hunt around and repurpose zipper cases from various devices found at tag sales and the like.

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A 1" strip of neoprene around the perimeter where the zipper is might make all the difference.

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(usually the flat planar parts of a zipper case are well-protected; the corners, not much at all).

dreamy solstice
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alrighty

dusty citrus
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For very very bulky go Pelican. ;)

jaunty jetty
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if you can afford a pelican you can afford an SSD

dusty citrus
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I said the nautical astronomical sighting device as an instance of when you want your Pelican case - en route one-way to alpha Centauri

dreamy solstice
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I could afford one, I just wouldn't have much money left over

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and I definatelly couldn't buy a new pc

dusty citrus
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Hamfests is where I hunt expensive items that are discarded for one reason or another.

dreamy solstice
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as I am saving the money I can for one, I cant buy anything else

dusty citrus
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Some tinkerer's widow will sell you one for like seven bucks just to be rid of it.

dreamy solstice
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like the HAM com in plano tx?

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yeah I went to it last saturday

dusty citrus
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The trick is to not spend all your money so that when some sweet salvage deal comes along you have funds to take advantage of it.

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Used cars, same idea: if you're in a rush you won't get a really good deal. Have to be ready to pounce when the opportunity arises.

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I got a really nice 600 dollar folding bike for 300 because the lady selling it had no clue and the guy she sold it for wasn't interested in the sales process (craigslist).

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and it was the one day in winter where the temperatures broke 50 F. ;) Rode it home.

dreamy solstice
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I remember getting a $100 tv from the HAM com in plano for $2

dusty citrus
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That's all I'm sayin. ;) There are deals but rarely happen 'on time' ;)

dreamy solstice
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yup

dusty citrus
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I got an oscope for 80 bux recently, that way.

dreamy solstice
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nice

dusty citrus
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Think about it. I'm 58; if I croak off my brother gets rid of it probably for name-your-own-price.

dreamy solstice
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I have a lot of old junk that I could sell for at least a couple hundred, but it has sentimental value to me

dusty citrus
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I gave away a few thousand dollars worth of radio gear, several years ago. I just couldn't tolerate having all that clutter any longer.

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I have since filled all those cubic feet of regained closet and shelf space, with other junk. ;)

dreamy solstice
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I have an original gameboy, in mint condition, could probably get no more than a hundred, but it has a lot of sentimental value to me, so I'd never even consider selling or parting with it

dusty citrus
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I keep that stuff down to about I don't know 5x5x5 feet in total. That's what I'd allot for the space ship one way trip to alpha C, for 'sentimental value' items.

dreamy solstice
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wait you got rid of radio gear?

I thought radio operators always kept their old radio crap...

dusty citrus
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I have exactly one piece of vacuum tube gear left. A decent receiver I paid far too much money for.

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I have one decent solid state receiver.

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One two meter mobile radio I like. One two meter handheld I like. No, make that two of them. ;)

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I talked to the Ukraine when the last sunspot cycle propagation peaked (on about 25 watts SSB).

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That was on 12 meters.

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He said my name and callsign correctly so I know he heard me. ;) Hehe.

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That was on the Buddipole in the attic (inside a wooden roofed building).

dreamy solstice
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I seriously cant wait till I get my technician license on july the 10th

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(I mean, I know for a fact that I will get a good passing score

dusty citrus
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I got my Novice, and then my General, in 1974 .. six months apart. The Advanced was a significant difficulty level beyond the General written exam. I had planned to learn it fully, then pass the exam.

dreamy solstice
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wow

dusty citrus
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I was fourteen .:)

dreamy solstice
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you still have renewed licenses?

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nice

dusty citrus
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Yeah I'm wa1tnr till I die. Or maybe just a bit longer than that. hi hi.

jaunty jetty
dreamy solstice
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probably

dusty citrus
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I've been renewing online. It's best to get some practice with that, as there are online services that profit from 'helping' you renew online (it's not hard at all).

dreamy solstice
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cool

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I plan on eventually getting amateur extra, but that might be a while

dusty citrus
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It'd be nice to actually know what was on the traditional Extra exam. That's some serious radio knowledge. Today, I don't know .. have only glanced at the question pool. I need a way to study without 'peeking at the answers' since there's no real gain from the license other than personal accomplishment.

dreamy solstice
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I am quite excited to become a HAM radio operator tbh

dusty citrus
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@jaunty jetty I can't imagine your getting the item in the photograph. Especially eight times. ;)

jaunty jetty
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but that's the one they photoed

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surely it's the prettiest

dusty citrus
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Well in the USA it's a requirement to get a federal license and callsign.

dreamy solstice
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yup

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without it I legally cant operate a radio

dusty citrus
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You have to understand that hams used to be polite on the air. Pretty much always.

dreamy solstice
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well, for transmitting

dusty citrus
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Everybody.

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Amazingly enough, that is no longer true.

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But the hobby encompasses a lot more than operating and conducting QSO's.

dreamy solstice
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that sucks

dusty citrus
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It's hard to get people motivated to get licensed who'd really add to the richness of the social experience of talking on the air.

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Someone had to invent (from scratch) the act of being 'naughty' on the air. ;)

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Nobody had ever thought of it, before.

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Then it caught on.

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And then, some more. Until that's most of what there was.

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This did have a precedent, btw: the telephone company originally employed boys, not women.

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The story goes that they quickly found out that boys tend to 'horse around' a lot and got into (telephone call based) mischief.

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On the air, though, everyone was Dudley Do-Right as far as I can remember.

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Literally never heard anything awful. Evar!

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They're pretty bad, now, at least on 80 meters.

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(80 meters is one of my favorite bands!)

dreamy solstice
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at least the fcc rules forbid obscene or indescent language, as that gives the fcc an excuse to revoke licenses if you break that rule

dusty citrus
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They don't/can't enforce that often enough to matter.

dreamy solstice
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when I get my license, i might turn a wireless router into a ham radio

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as you can alter the frequencies of a router

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and give it new antennae

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it'd only work on a handful of frequencies though because of the COAX connector it uses

dusty citrus
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You have to watch out because Part 97 says what emissions are allowed and what aren't.

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In the old days they used a letter and a number such as F3 or A1 (can't remember the scheme anymore) and those designated modes of operation (modulation, for example).

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You can modify equipment but you cannot create new modes that aren't already allowed, afaik.

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So if that mode isn't allowed on that band you can't mod the commercial gear to do it.

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(could probably try writing to someone to ask permission, if it's legit)

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I haven't looked at Part 97 in a very long time; don't know what rules were added or dropped.

jaunty jetty
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what are your favorite voltages

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in DC

dusty citrus
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Oh I guess today it's 3.3 VDC. Hard to say what's number two. Probably 240 volts DC for the plate of the final amplifier 6146-B though I don't really remember its canonical value.

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I'm not fond of 5VDC because it's so close to 3.3VDC so I like 12VDC or maybe 13.x better.

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Yeah because the AGM batteries rock. Those are the good glass mat ones for like electric wheelchairs and stuff. Stands up well to mild shock and vibration and you can freely charge them indoors.

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Those are usually 12 Volt.

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Packin' some serious Joules.

covert spire
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There’s all kinds of bandwidth charts now to tell what can/t be used

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If you feel super experimental, there is hamshield, arduino hat that is triband

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Make an antenna or two or three for it

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With their’s out, maybe some more will pop up

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Although, I completely forgot about fests, been bent up into a lot of other stuff. Some making stuffs on other end of tech

dreamy solstice
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@jaunty jetty my favorite voltage is 0.2v(because that is what my greatest achievment operated at)

jaunty jetty
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the electric pidgeon?

dreamy solstice
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nah, it's kinda hard to explain what it is

covert spire
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Show&tell?

dreamy solstice
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oh it no longer works

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it broke half a year ago

covert spire
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Bummer

jaunty jetty
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can we engineer the perfect lazy nerd lunch sandwich

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a sandwich you can make on monday, put in the fridge, and eat on sunday

sand tapir
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@jaunty jetty A real nerd wouldn't make the sandwich. A robot would make it for them

jaunty jetty
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I don't have a budget for a sandwich robot because I spent too much on fast food

barren hemlock
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@modern jasper that video dropped the f bomb. I would recommend removing it

tame saddle
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@modern jasper, @barren hemlock is simply suggesting that the video doesn't necessarily align with the #code-of-conduct. I would agree. We try keep this server available to all, to include some rather young (think single digits) children that participate with their families.

modern jasper
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ok

dire viper
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I'm not sure where the right place is to ask, but this seems a relevant place.

sharp tartan
dire viper
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I haven't been closely following Naomi Wu's story very closely, so I'm wondering what happened and if there's places I could look for the backstory?

proven olive
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Without getting into the ugly bits

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And it gets... ugly.

dire viper
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Also, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a moderator bot reacts to acronyms, but I would still like to know Western Texas Highlands went on, because it seems to have gotten awful.

proven olive
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Basically: She asked VICE not to publish stuff. Got an agreement from VICE that they wouldn't. VICE published it anyway. She made some, in my opinion, questionable choices in her response and ended up playing right into VICE's hand, and VICE leveraged the fact that they're a company with money and had her Patreon shut down.

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Considering her Patreon was her primary source of income for her videos and such, it... didn't go well for her. Last I saw, she had found another funding platform, but I haven't looked into it in a while.

dire viper
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Well, I was trying to catch up via reading some of her twitter, and wondering why a lot of her youtube seemed to disappear.

proven olive
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That I couldn't tell you for certain.

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Here's what I can guess though:

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Many of her videos are product reviews.

dire viper
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And I saw a lot of references to how she has to sneak in to Maker events to demonstrate her stuff, that there is no support for POC from the white maker movement, no support of WOC from the white women in the maker movement.

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She's now sponsored by Creality, as one of her revenue streams.

proven olive
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I wouldn't be surprised if VICE went to those companies/YT and had those videos removed.

dire viper
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And this doesn't on the face of it seem like VICE failing to have journalistic ethics?

proven olive
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I'm not clear on what you mean.

dire viper
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So, with the story that you have related above, it sounds like VICE broke an agreement to protect a source, which caused the source to get burned.

proven olive
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Yes.

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That source being Naomi. It was dumb things - Personal information that was completely irrelevant (And potentially threatening given where she lives) - Orientation & Partnership status, etc

dire viper
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Which VICE printed even though it said it wouldn't.

proven olive
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And she had an e-mail stating as such

dire viper
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Stating that they wouldn't print it, or that they would, or that information wasn't relevant?

proven olive
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That they wouldn't print it.

dire viper
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Well, this does not leave me favorably disposed towards VICE.

proven olive
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It shouldn't.

sharp tartan
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VICE has been going downhill

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they used to make pretty nice content

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now all their videos/documentaries are all about the same things

dire viper
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I can't blame them for getting into a rut if that rut is over things that are legitimately huge problems to the world.

jaunty jetty
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Yay power outages

sturdy oyster
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Like Gavin McGinnes or hate him, he was right about the company he helped found (VICE). They started as a company exposing wrongdoing, but have evolved into one that decides what they think is wrong, and sculpt stories to fit the narrative. To be fair though, that is most of journalism these days.

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That's not saying that I take anyone's side. I just know from watching several of the VICE videos, they have a very distinct POV that they like to push. Are they wrong in this case? I dunno.

sturdy oyster
covert spire
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I know these story posters share their own POV, but I cannot come to call it journalism.

jaunty jetty
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Have any of you ever made an android app in kotlin?

sand tapir
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TIL that a screenshot of an svg file looks BETTER than the original file converted into jpeg

jaunty jetty
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what's the screenshot saved as?

jaunty jetty
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reason to buy 3D printer #716, tiny network access siren

cursive pike
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@jaunty jetty Personally, nothing substantial. I worked with a team that was in the process of converting from Java to Kotlin. So I looked into it. Nice improvement.

dreamy solstice
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I made the most awesome meme ever

proven olive
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Well. In the complete opposite direction of electronics and circuits, I just bought a mannequin on Amazon. It's for displaying my set of armor. I only wear it once or twice a year, tops, and hate to have it just... sit in a box.

tame saddle
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but...does it have blinky? billie

proven olive
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I might carve out the eyes and make them move.

dusty citrus
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Aren't there fencing targets that are like a human torso?

barren hemlock
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@proven olive what kind of armor? Is it white and plastic?

barren hemlock
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And comes from a galaxy far, far away?

dreamy solstice
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makes everything look better

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I also had to rewrite half a megabyte of code to make it support color, in 2 hours

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my hands are really sore now

barren hemlock
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It's hard to read the blue

dreamy solstice
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still deciding the background color

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maybe a grey would go better...

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or replace blue with light blue

barren hemlock
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Second one

dreamy solstice
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looks SO much better

barren hemlock
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Yup

jaunty jetty
proven olive
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@barren hemlock Nah, it's my Ren Faire armor.

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Even though I am hours and hours late with that response...

dusty citrus
dreamy solstice
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except I dont have that os

dusty citrus
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The colors are within reason for any major OS.

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.oO(..I can't defend Ted DiBiase anymore..)

barren hemlock
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Watching batman vs. Superman and lex Luthor's prison id is 16-TK-421.

That is an easter egg from my favorite movie

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TK-421 why are you not at your post?

covert spire
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10-16 Code also applies

barren hemlock
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Not familiar with that one @covert spire

covert spire
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10 codes is old CB chatter

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Most commonly known is 10-4

barren hemlock
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I am better than that. I am a ham ;p

covert spire
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Well, then ya know 10-4 is QSL

barren hemlock
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I didn't really

covert spire
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Oh

barren hemlock
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I know q codes and prosigns

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BK is end of message

covert spire
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Well, if ya felt like playing radio other than just within Ham, 10 codes also

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I just use 73

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Hahahahahahaha!

barren hemlock
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43 or 42 is happy birthday

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I can't remember

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Give me a bit

covert spire
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Tho I should be getting back on studying CW & for general

jaunty jetty
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somebody aught'a make a cordless electric screwdriver like all the ones that exist, but with a non-adjustable clutch set to the equivalent of about 5 on the ones with adjustable clutches; and then an appropriately small motor to match that, so the whole thing can be really small

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at work I spend a lot of time moving case screws and mounting/unmounting hard drives

barren hemlock
jaunty jetty
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what advantage does the motion control provide?

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also 97.99$

barren hemlock
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You twist it the way you want it to turn from what I understand

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Give it a start in the direction of motion

jaunty jetty
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but what's the advantage of that

barren hemlock
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Not sure

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There are a bunch of YouTube reviews on it

jaunty jetty
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something, at some point, for reasons that don't exist, has changed nearly all of the layer colors in eagle, globally, to gray

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and there exists no capacity to fix this

ancient rivet
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@jaunty jetty i think that stuff is in a eaglerc file. you could try editting it, or just delete (rename) it to force eagle back to defaults

jaunty jetty
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of course the eaglerc file is not in any eagle directory....

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appdata/roaming/cadsoft

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yay

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now to never touch colors again

proven olive
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Just be careful where you use colorful language.

jaunty jetty
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did I do it again?!

proven olive
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No

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I was making a pun

jaunty jetty
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if you had a feather board that was a little bit longer on each end with some pins for connecting momentary switches, would you want each end to have a VCC bus and an input pin, or all the inputs on one end and all the VCC on the other end?

proven olive
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Instinct says both on each end

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But I can see benefits to both

sturdy oyster
jaunty jetty
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mmmmm, secret hollow book that contains a double breadboard, a battery kit that can give 3.3 and 5V, some little pockets with jumpers, and enough headroom that you can leave things as tall as a TO-220 plugged in

sturdy oyster
vestal phoenix
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@sturdy oyster Isn't Georgia more of a peach and pecan state?

sturdy oyster
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lol @vestal phoenix 'tis true. Incidentally, the peaches in the pic are from an orchard just up the road from here.

vestal phoenix
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Most likely the snowbirds passing through propagated the blueberry seeds down there.

sturdy oyster
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Maybe. These are a different variety from the more frost resistant plants up north.

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In southern climates the plants grow much larger and bear fruit sooner

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I have two plants, and they are close to 6 feet tall.

vestal phoenix
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This summer I am going to try to plant some giant sunflower plants. Neighbor had a few and they look like fun.

sturdy oyster
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Oh wow! That sounds really fun. Are you planting for the seeds, or just because they look awesome?

vestal phoenix
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I think the squirrels will get to them first but they are awesome big.

sturdy oyster
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lol probably. Either way, post some pics when they come in. It would be fun to see.

vestal phoenix
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sure thing. Having a garden means you have a reason to do some IoT garden electronics or get more tools or both.

sturdy oyster
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Any excuse to get more tools, right?

vestal phoenix
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Addiction to video gaming was declared to be a real health issue, they should look at the need to acquire more tools.

queen kestrel
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I mentioned the adafruit coin acceptor in a tweet. Almost immediately a dozen different crypto / bitcoin "experts" started following me. Amazing...ly bad filters and bots.

covert spire
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@vestal phoenix if ya on health kick, veggies & peppers are healthy

queen kestrel
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@vestal phoenix back when I was engaged, I asked my friend's dad for advice on a successful marriage. (he and his wife were a great couple.) he said, "easy son. buy every tool you possibly can right now. right now you don't have to ask for permission."

covert spire
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Tru story

dreamy solstice
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what input voltage would it take to get 100 milivolts outputted from a 100k ohm resistor?

ocean sigil
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Resistors cause a voltage drop depending on the current passing through them. It is not clear what you are trying to do.

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a 1 micro amp current through a 100K resistor will result in a 100 millivolt drop, but I suspect that is not really what you are looking for. - remember V=IR voltage drop = current * resistance

dreamy solstice
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k

ocean sigil
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What are you trying to do?

dreamy solstice
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researching BCI technology

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trying to calculate what the output voltage of a neuron is, to be able to get past the bone and skin(which is around 100k ohms in total

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I tried looking it up, found nothing

ocean sigil
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hmm - sounds interesting - so you are likely measuring very small currents. Output voltage is a "relative" thing.

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but I know nothing about BCI so just guessing.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography EEG measures voltage fluctuations resulting from ionic current within the neurons of the brain. Good luck

Electroencephalography (EEG) is an electrophysiological monitoring method to record electrical activity of the brain. It is typically noninvasive, with the electrodes placed along the scalp, although invasive electrodes are sometimes used such as in electrocorticography. EEG ...

spice moss
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in azure have timeseries service what is good for showing data like EEG with graphs

jaunty jetty
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if you had a device on your wall with a display counting the number of power outages since you last touched it, how many digits would your house need

ocean sigil
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One digit would work for me - assuming I "touch" it at least once year.

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although some outages do several "blips" so may have to take that into account

vestal phoenix
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wouldn't that be reinventing the VCR clock? If you are counting or sensing full power outs, brownouts would also be a concern and that happens a lot with the summer air conditioning usage demand on the grid.

spice moss
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if you have data what need internet access then it store data when not connected

jaunty jetty
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could you say that again differently?

vestal phoenix
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Data. Have or Have not. There is no fry. -yoda Your sensing device might need a backup power source or powered independent of the mains to retain the data it sensed prior to the outage, or have the ability to retain its connection to the internet if needed.

dusty citrus
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7 bits (one octal digit, one hexadecimal digit) ought to be plenty.

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99 decimal, too, would work.

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You got more than that, no need to count -- just reclassify the site as unsuitable for continuous power. OTOH there were countries with rolling blackouts that occured rather frequently; they still managed to do computer science when the lights were on.

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You could also do one decimal digit (0-9) and use a discrete indicator (LED - RGB especially so) as an 'overflow' flag to let you know 0-9 was exceeded.

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Or you could have a stack of pennies inside the enclosure, pushed out a slot for each power outage lasting more than 30 seconds. Maybe use a solenoid. Catch in a cloth bag/net.

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Copper BB shot would be a bit more capacity.

grave crest
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Looking for recommendations for a free/open source font that's ideal for coding. Monospace not a requirement.

jaunty jetty
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what platform

jaunty jetty
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I'm looking to replace the keycaps on my very cheap mechanical keyboard with something shorter, to make the keyboard shorter; I found a company that makes this before but the full set would have cost about twice as much as the keyboard itself

Any idea where I might find such caps for a more acceptable price?

dusty citrus
lavish ridge
jaunty jetty
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how is it there hasn't been a Raspberry Tau yet

lavish ridge
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hmm

modern jasper
proven olive
barren hemlock
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Looks like it's hugging you

tame saddle
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Its like your Mac and Me moment... πŸ˜„ I will impatiently await the LED, articulated eyes...

jade yacht
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time for Buddhism hotline

proven olive
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@barren hemlock That was the idea!

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It doesn't stand with something like 30 pounds of armor on it, so I need a better base

dreamy solstice
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woah

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you have real armor?

barren hemlock
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@proven olive

proven olive
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Doesn't hold leg armor or arm armor very well in that style

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Plus. A mannequin allows for SO MUCH shenanigans

barren hemlock
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True

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Gotta has shenanigans

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Reinforce it with wire?

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GN guys

covert spire
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I foresee @proven olive 3D printing a head

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Because

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Shenanigans

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Unfortunately, mannequins aren’t designed to wear armour

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Fortunately, this is what makers are for

jaunty jetty
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yanno that feel when you use a mac at work, and the default mac calculator app is the worst thing since the internet started a worst thing arms race, so you google for a good one and the first result is the best thing ever

grave crest
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@jaunty jetty My 2 cents -- check out PCalc. It's a really awesome calculator.

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Mac & iOS only.

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Not the cheapest, normal price is $10. I know, steep. But it's probably the most polished app I've found for a calculator, rich with features. And it's done by a single developer. So your purchase directly helps a person.

jaunty jetty
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yea 10$ for a work computer app is tough at the moment

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but Numi, is glorious

jaunty jetty
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fun fact, for me at least Numi is actually the #1 result, and PCalc is #2

grave crest
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Ah, I've heard of Numi -- natural language calculator. Very nifty indeed!

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(I just installed it, always nice to have something to replace a google search πŸ˜ƒ )

jaunty jetty
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looks like when they go to full release it'll be 17$, that's tough but this is really the calculator I'd want

covert spire
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PCalc just became way cheaper option

jaunty jetty
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yea, but numi is probably worth it......

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if only we weren't switching away from mac at some point in the indeterminate future

proven olive
covert spire
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Ah, but that takes away fun of making

proven olive
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I am going to try and make a better stand for it. Something to support the weight and balance better.

covert spire
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Did ya make the armour?

grave crest
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I've heard about putting your head in the sand, but putting it into a cardboard box takes it to a new level!

covert spire
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One must protect one’s head

grave crest
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That must've been an angry, giant crickit....it bit his head off.

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I don't see any damage on it, but he really should get his head examined just to be safe.

jaunty jetty
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do any of you run a slack?

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have any of you written a book or book equivalent text on the subject of setting up and operating an effective slack team

sleek urchin
jaunty jetty
#

...... So's I says' to myselves "I think that there summer steam sale has started", I am correct as sometimes occurs so I go and look at it; and near the top of the list on the page google gave me is the Steam Link on sale for two dollars and fifty cents

sleek urchin
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yup

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alas, not in canada

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steam doesn't sell physical goods in canada

jaunty jetty
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95% off

sleek urchin
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but that's $2.50, plus ~$12 shipping, from what I've heard

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so it's not like a small fancy coffee

jaunty jetty
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I don't even have a television

sleek urchin
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heh, I know the feeling

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if I were in the US, I'd probably still pick one up

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for later

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can also hack Kodi onto it

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since it's a small linux-capable processor

jaunty jetty
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it's less than the price of two tacos, why wouldn't you

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unfortunately the steam controller is only slightly discounted and I don't have a budget for that

sleek urchin
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you don't have to use a steam controller though

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the compatability list is huge with them

jaunty jetty
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no but I have use for a steam controller

sleek urchin
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fair enough

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It'd be an impulse purchase.. especially since Steam Link is now an official app on the Android Play Store

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so many smart TVs and settop boxes can now run it

jaunty jetty
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I bought Episode 1 Racer a few weeks ago and promptly found that my xbox controller has been rendered unuseable by driver updates, the game is not pleasant to play with keyboard and nobody makes good joysticks for less than a small child anymore

sleek urchin
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that;s a great game

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I played so much of it on the N64

jaunty jetty
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it's better on PC

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longer render distance, higher resolution, several times more complicated tracks

sleek urchin
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yeah, but this was also being played in the late 90's, we didn't have a great PC at hte time

jaunty jetty
sleek urchin
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also had no clue there were other versions at the time

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been tempted to pick it up on GOG, but I've got so many other games I've yet to play

frail forge
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The N64 is based on SGI's workstation architecture but less powerful than SGI's workstations anyways. That is sort of how Nintendo squeezed 3D for a low price πŸ˜ƒ they cooperated with SGI.

marsh current
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I never liked the look of 3d on the n64. they made the first stab at console antialiasing, but it was just a mess of muddy rainbows

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But then I was spoiled by my 3dfx card playing podracer on my pc. the audible click of it passing video control over to that card is still jarring to me

sleek urchin
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It's not the best console ever, but it's my favorite as I had one growing up

dusty citrus
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We had sticks and jacknives to play with, growing up.

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The local pharmacy had, like, three or four nine volt batteries for sale. They were in a countertop display case. They were lots bigger.

frail forge
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Messing with Taylor/Maclaurin series. I don't need a FPU. πŸ˜ƒ

covert spire
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Because nothing is safer than cardboard

frail forge
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heh

dusty citrus
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(that's the one I remember, or something about the same size)

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Before alkalines, I think dry cells were basically a can of zinc filled with a corrosive paste, with a graphite rod in the center.

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(that's 1.5 volts)

covert spire
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Dat price @_@

dusty citrus
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DuraCell was unheard of at the time.

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glo-plug might have something to do with those tiny gasoline engines in hobby sized model aircraft and cars and such. Very loud engines (fist-sized).

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They smelled so good when running.

covert spire
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Back when leaded fuel was used?

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And about all engines used same type of gas?

dusty citrus
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Yeah there was leaded fuel at every gas station; unleaded was stil a bit of a novelty I think.

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I think model aircraft engines used their own blend sold at the hobby shop in a fire starter (stoddard fluid) (charcoal grill) sized can. Had a clear feeder tube for refuelling.

covert spire
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I still see gas stations with signs up β€œGas price” β€œUnleaded price”

dusty citrus
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There's a lot of metal signs that were oriented to a specific brand of gasoline station.

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If they had foresight and just used canvas, rebranding would have been a lot less expensive. ;)

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ESSO was huge when travelling.

covert spire
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Yea, but now nostalgia collectors are eating up those signs

dusty citrus
#

Rust and .. shotgun pellets .. probably ate many of them.

covert spire
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Pretty much

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Tho, I would like to see Dino make comeback

dusty citrus
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The two things that disappeared (and were annoying in that they did so) was a) undeveloped land and b) stuff people built that they later (in some form) unbuilt.

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Sinclair

covert spire
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Ah

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I just know only time I see them anymore is out west

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Ginormous truck stops

dusty citrus
#

fossil <> dinosaur in 'fossil fuel' hahaha

covert spire
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What is life without puns?

dusty citrus
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My brother's wife once said (this woman is a public -- substitute -- schoolteacher)
she said that the hills around here (1400 feet above sea level; based at 600 feet) .. are .. get this .. 'dinosaur pp' add two o's into the pp to get the word our dyno won't allow)

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dinosaur droppings

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I says to her 'them's some big dinosaurs'

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(the hills here are solid granite)

covert spire
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O.o

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Ooohhh granite

dusty citrus
#

continental bedrock eroded for .. forever. Long times.

covert spire
#

Which reminds me, I need to get back to flint knapping

dusty citrus
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I've heard of that. Re-proving ancient human's discovery of fire starting techniques?

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Or is it weapons ('arrow heads') - or both

covert spire
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Tools

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Unfortunately not rocks so good for firemaking

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And rarely I get an arrowhead out of it, nor do I care to

dusty citrus
#

Cancha just toddle on over to Sears and pick up a set of Craftsman tools ? ;)

covert spire
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Well, I can make splitting wedge, which helps to fires

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Why go all the way to Sears, they’re now at Lowe’s

dusty citrus
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Do you have to wear a loin cloth while you make the tools out of flint?

covert spire
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No

dusty citrus
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I don't think I've seen a large chunk of flint (or any at all, identified as such) in person. If I did it'd have been at a museum. Is it glass like obsidian?

covert spire
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Although, I know people talk about survival shows, & how those skills are useful for that. I’m just amused

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Only the rock in EU is

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Funny enough, guy who taught me made the tools & stuff to fill a museum

dusty citrus
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The classic flint and steel (I guess I have seen flint after all) is a rod you 'cut at' with a steel knife, to 'peel off sparks' (it gets hot somehow).

covert spire
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Although it’s called flint knapping, I don’t use flint, or make it

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Bit more how it looked in 18th-19th century, the steel is French style with curved to put your fingers inside

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This is set I use for camping, as it’s cheaper than using matches (as ironic as that may sound)

dusty citrus
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Haha he wouldn't let me say that.

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I figured duble you tee eff was borderline. ;)

covert spire
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I got used to using it from re-enacting, and once ya get rhythm, it’s easy

dusty citrus
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No birch bark can ignite easily if its dry. Same with those tiny pine branches that are denuded, dead and dried but still on the tree.

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I guess if you're outdoors it makes more sense to do primitive stuff. No reason not to -- other than all the cool space age stuff it is now uniquely possible to do -- never done before. ;)

covert spire
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Usually we go to find a pine branch fallen, or hanging that is about side of a fist around, split it in half, easy fire start

dusty citrus
#

I got to go. Duty calls. See you!

covert spire
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I tried the new space age stuff, and when your dinner relies on having a fire going, you find yourself tossing it out for what ya know you can do

dreamy solstice
jaunty jetty
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yanno what one of my favorite parts of design is

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doing it less wrong the second time

jaunty jetty
jaunty jetty
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the V2 top body only came in at 57 cents cheaper, but this is a great improvement

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down from 42.65 to 35.58$, sweet

covert spire
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@dreamy solstice Like this?

dreamy solstice
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yes

rich laurel
jaunty jetty
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what about it?

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don't know where that florida link came from

proven olive
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@rich laurel If you want to advertise your own discord, that's fine, but we do ask that you at least describe it and why people may be interested in it.

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@jaunty jetty I have seen references to that story a bit lately. Haven't got around to reading yet though

sand tapir
#

Hey, <@&327289013561982976> : I'd like to use some of your custom emoji's on my server. Is that ok?

proven olive
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That call would have to be made by @stuck moth or @night crescent

sand tapir
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got ya

proven olive
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Given the hour, I don't expect either to be around anytime soon. Tomorrow, maybe Monday

sand tapir
#

thanks

jaunty jetty
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that face when a bunch of children are playing in the street at night

jaunty jetty
#

I'm a very shakey person for a lot of reasons, anybody got tips on how to be that and solder small things well?

sharp tartan
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how small

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also, does bracing your hands(/arms) against the table help at all?

jaunty jetty
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the smallest thing I've done is I think a 0602, which was far too small and I lost all 3 resistors within about 45 minutes. I'm going to stick to things that are more than a millimeter in at least one dimension

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bracing does help but it's not always possible and my fingers are shakey too

dreamy solstice
#

ouch

sharp tartan
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hot air rework is always an option too

proven olive
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@jaunty jetty What type of small?

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I find soldering of things like ATMega328ps to be easier than soldering tiny resistors. Sadly, the tiny resistors are what usually you have to solder most.

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0805 is a size I like for resistors/capacitors

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Personally, I follow the same general method: Tin one pad. Keep it hot, and place the device into it and move it into position.

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Make sure it's aligned, then remove heat.

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For resistors/capacitors/etc it's just a matter of hitting the other pad at that point.

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Also, if you're designing the PCB, make the pads larger than they need to be.

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For ICs, this generally translates to longer as you can't get too much wider.

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When I'm soldering ICs with fine pitch (Like a 328), I'll hit one corner, get it aligned. Hit a far corner to keep it still

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Then just... go to town. Honestly, I'll hit all of the pins on a side with a giant glob of solder, then pull the excess away with solder flux and solder wick

jaunty jetty
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I try not to need SMD ICs, but if that were more of an option it'd be good

proven olive
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They're a boatload cheaper, and a lot smaller, too

karmic kite
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Lots and lots of water

fair summit
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@proven olive @jaunty jetty I'm a few hours behind here, but this link has some interesting ideas for holding SMT parts in place while soldering: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/153923/how-to-hold-smd-parts-in-place-while-soldering

thin canopy
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@jaunty jetty I have similar issues. I'm having tremendous success with hot air soldering -- better than hand soldering with a soldering iron when using either wire solder or paste. Just started using it last week and have successfully (on the first try) soldered 0805, SOT23-5, TSOP-5, SOIC-8 and 14, and similar sizes.

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The next challenge is TSSOP-16.

sturdy oyster
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@covert spire this is super late to the party, but we used to do pretty primitive camping in mostly pine forests. One thing I learned is to take some rope with you. While oftentimes the forest floor will have very little wood for burning, there are often dead branches just a few feet up. We'd tie a fallen branch onto the end of the rope, and use that to pitch upwards and collect firewood.
Another trick is to get a good tallow candle (drippy), and melt that into sawdust and form balls roughly the size of large meatballs. They make great firestarters.

stuck moth
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@sand tapir what is your server about? why can't members just use the emojis from here on your server when they are members here too

jaunty jetty
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You have to pay for that

stuck moth
#

ah, I'm nitro and don't remember what is and isn't part of it

covert spire
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Brad, I usually have Lent with me from dryer, it’s like super free

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Although I know one guy locally uses cardboard from soda can boxes, & bee’s wax, but he works for local bee farmers. I can’t afford the wax, although, I do want to spin the Lent into tender like what they sell at stores, I seen a machine once perfect for it.

sand tapir
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@stuck moth Its a homework discord for my school, i'd like to use the led's and such, not all of it

dreamy solstice
#

so, I am trying to test a piece of software of mine to see how slow a computer it'll run on, unfortunately my computer is fast, and I cant really make it slow. Is there a way I can.. emulate the speed of an older processor?

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like, for example, force the program to run at 500 mhz,

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to emulate it as if it where running on a pentium 2(I can use the set affinity to force it to run on one core)

real thorn
dreamy solstice
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that'd work

stuck moth
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@sand tapir email me scott@adafruit.com and I'll pass it on to @night crescent to get the ok

idle iron
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Are there any CPU mining rigs?

idle iron
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but with like the ram built into it

jaunty jetty
#

that's a little bit out of scope for most of us I imagine; but could you explain what you mean?

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@fair summit that link (SMT tips) really makes me want to dive into homebrewing high end equipment like some kind of pick-n-place machine built on something like a DIY pen-plotter

proven olive
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OK, that's a cool concept.

jaunty jetty
#

the worst part is I can imagine a complete system where you put a stack of PCBs in a chute, load some reel feeders, fill a tank with solder paste; go to sleep and wake up with all the boards in an output rack finished

proven olive
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They exist

jaunty jetty
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but I could make it

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it could fit on my table

proven olive
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I can make most things

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But I certainly can't afford to.

jaunty jetty
#

and then all I'd need is a good idea and I'd be moderately wealthy!

granite portal
barren hemlock
covert spire
#

That joke just slytherin here

barren hemlock
#

And to that I bid you all a good night

sleek urchin
#

I was doing so good and avoiding impulse purchases

jaunty jetty
#

you should look into fancy compasses

dusty citrus
#

@sleek urchin My Dad brought home a pocket calculator in .. 1973 or os. None of us had ever seen one.

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For the next ten years, I bought every calculator smaller than desktop sized I could afford (and sometimes I bought it when I coulnd't afford it).

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I had a fairly large collection of calculators. That's all before I bought my first computer.

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The big thing back then was to spell 71077345 (SHELL OIL upside down) with the display (they were base 10 machines, only).

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C0FFEE and DEADBEEF were still in the future, for us. ;) (hexadecimal puns)

sleek urchin
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heh, also have some calculators, some slide rules, more fountain pens, a selection of mechanical and drafting pencils...

dusty citrus
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I have one good (high school grade) slide rule. Found it somewhere (can't remember now). Haven't treated it very carefully, considering it's the only one I've seen with my own eyes in person, in decades. ;)

rocky kindle
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the next generation of hex puns are in ipv6 addresses.

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all of the facebook.com AAAA records are 2a03:2880:f112:83:face:b00c::xxxx, I know they're not the only ones

sleek urchin
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@dusty citrus I rather like old tech in a lot of ways. My wrist watch is mechanical, I primarily use fountain pens, I prefer writing on paper..

jaunty jetty
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I bet you could make a pretty solid sliderule out of PCB

dusty citrus
#

There's a ton of abandoned (or neglected) technology that wasn't thrown out due to lack of merit.

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Simple example: large thermal mass electric motors.

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They're preferable in every way except how much they way weigh (especially if shipped somewhere).

jaunty jetty
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I'm not familiar with that kind of motor

dusty citrus
#

(my brain actually typed 'way' there!)

sleek urchin
#

you could certainly make a good slide rule with PCBs, but it's really more down to silk screen resolution

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unless you have your markings in the copper layer

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I have two. one was made by thinkgeek and is just plastic

jaunty jetty
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I was thinking of using the traces as ball races to reduce friction and prevent rubbing off the silkscreen

sleek urchin
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the other is from the 60's and is milled magnesium, I think

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or aluminum

jaunty jetty
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I always wanted a circular slide rule

sleek urchin
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I'd love a Curta calculator

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but that's... waaaaay out of my price range

jaunty jetty
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everybody wants a curta calculator to wind mathematics around

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I didn't even know they came in gauge form

sleek urchin
#

old tech can be really amazing

jaunty jetty
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used to be a time that all the things of any quality were so hard to come by that it wasn't that much harder to make them works of art

proven merlin
barren hemlock
#

Nice

jaunty jetty
#

what about Jangofet, IG-88, and Dengar

proven merlin
#

what about 'em?

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everyone remembers bobafet

jaunty jetty
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Dengar is a redneck disguised poorly as a space mummy

frail forge
#

Hm I wish I had a slide rule

ocean sigil
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works just like the one on my desk.

jaunty jetty
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anybody know the etymology whereby pcb design generally uses mils instead of thous?

main kiln
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If we are talking thickness, it may be like plastic thickness for sheets where mils is not referenced to millimeters, but rather the traditional "thousandth". Why it was selected? Probably just us keeping the nomenclature from old manufacturing processes. Like when you tell a machinist that the part is off by a few tenths, he's thinking ten-thousandths of an inch.

jaunty jetty
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thickness yes but also everything else

main kiln
#

Then maybe the PCB industry standardized to metric?

jaunty jetty
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mils are english

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mils == thous == .001"

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but mils are normally only used for thickness, typically on films and such

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it's weird to see board position and trace width being measured in a unit of film thickness

main kiln
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Mils are used for gauge size as well.

jaunty jetty
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that's fair

main kiln
#

I would guess that since they are working with one unit to declare thickness, they may as well use that same unit for other integral parts of the board

jaunty jetty
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somebody changed all the 1x16 pin headers on ultralibrarian to be wrong and it annoys me

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about 2/3rds of them show up as 16DIPs in the schematic and the rest take the pins out of the box for some weird reason

main kiln
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For a contrast. I am using my pocket knife to cut out little circles of laminated paper, and am annoyed that the office didn't have scissors.

jaunty jetty
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oh and 1x12 pin headers

main kiln
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Yoinks. Gotta throw out the whole thing then

jaunty jetty
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it'd be great if there was a 1x16 in the adafruit eagle library

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it skips 16 and 17

main kiln
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That's odd

jaunty jetty
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I ended up making one, and there also isn't a 1x5 header so I'm now making that too, the component making process is not great.

ocean sigil
dusty citrus
#

Chicago: each electric vehicle β€” called a β€œskate” β€” would transport up to 16 riders and their luggage. The vehicles could leave downtown and O’Hare as frequently as every 30 seconds, the city says. They would exceed 100 miles per hour and make the entire trip from downtown to O’Hare in 12 minutes.

ocean sigil
#

And the cost of building it will be about the same as the cost for the above referenced JWST launch delay ($!B) !!

dusty citrus
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Hehe. Well it's up to him and his investors to price it out. They said USD $25 per ride and that'd cover operational costs even if underutilized.

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Tunnel's good for a long time if done correctly the first time.

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The really big news (IMO) is going to be if he gets it right (durable tunnel) and doesn't damage the environment appreciably, in the process. Those are my milestones for this project.

Everything else is humans disagreeing on fair economic exchange.

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(and don't crash spacex or tesla, economically, in doing so -- important milestone ;)

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The machine tolerates a /nick of up to 32 chars and doesn't seem picky about what they are.

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20 is pushing it pretty hard.

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I had a conversation like this, with my friend, about this and that that I just didn't want to endure (he runs a nice BBS).

He said:

If thine eye offend thee -- pluck it out.  /true_story

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That's all he had for me. ;)

karmic kite
jaunty jetty
#

have you ever noticed that there aren't any manga about electronics

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there's manga about everything from linguistics to cup ramen

jaunty jetty
quiet urchin
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Looking for a few people who love working on large group projects. Trying to put together a way to find people to collaborate on projects

jaunty jetty
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You're building a team to build a team builder?

quiet urchin
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Yeah I know

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But u wanna help?

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@jaunty jetty

jaunty jetty
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I don't really have anything to contribute

dusty citrus
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(oddly enough it was useful to me for the present tense use!)

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I did not evaluate this resource for spamminess, trojan-ness &c. Caution!

barren hemlock
silver shale
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i was just in NYC for the first time, airport only though

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would've went to manhattan and see adafruit irl

grave crest
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If memory serves me right, they don't have tours of their place (building rules and whatnot)

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One of the reasons they said they enjoy doing the virtual tours (videos, photos, etc) of their workspace.

sleek urchin
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huzzah, I finally got a NES Classic

sturdy oyster
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just accidentally hit ctrl+/, and realized it brings up a list of keyboard shortcuts for discord (was trying to type a question mark).

grave crest
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yay @sleek urchin

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hmm, I don't get that...

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Ah, on mac it's apple + /

sleek urchin
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Maybe nintendo has actually got stock levels down now!

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best buy had loads left

jaunty jetty
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if you mean like down pat, then they shouldn't have loads, they should have enough that they have them but now is the worst time to have excess stock of videogame product

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errrbody knows that stuff is going to get announced in two months, coupled with nice weather to be released over the next 3, likely including an N64 Classic; oh, now it makes sense

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nintendo just pushed all of their NES classic stock out to retailers because they're moving on

grave crest
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@sleek urchin Very few of them where I've been to in Northern NJ and NYC. I'd love to get a NES classic + 2x extra controllers -- one for player 2, one to take apart.

sleek urchin
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the extra controllers are even rarer

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the chipset they're using already seems to have enough power to handle it

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more comes down to emulation issues then

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maybe nintendo will have an amazing emulator on it

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.. then maybe I can just get two, and give one to my dad to get my n64 back, since he only ever plays the same 3 games)

jaunty jetty
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are those games on wii?

sleek urchin
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alas, no

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because Rare games

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like Banjo Kazooie

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which is more a licensing issue

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if he had an XB1, it'd be easy to just get him a copy of the Rare Review collection

plain mist
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I want to make stuff but I'm out of ideas

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People help me!

sleek urchin
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heh, depends what you find interesting

late fulcrum
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I had this nutty idea to make a robotic CD changer out of a model railroad. I'd have a long row of CDs by the track, and the model engine could keep track of where it was by optically counting the railroad ties.

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Now I'm working on CRT art projects. One is using CRTs I grabbed from a discarded projection TV. They're bright red, green, and blue phosphors, but they want lots of high voltage and magnetic deflection. Another is a vacuum tube visual theremin (think Lissajous figures controlled by waving your hands near antennæ. A third looks to make random words using a Monoscope character generator like this: http://tubetime.us/index.php/2018/06/04/a-vacuum-tube-rom/

dusty citrus
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I'm thinking about modeling DNA sequencing in small enough steps to have a decent working understanding of the general ideas involved (which I do not have).

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Right now I cannot even badly explain any of it - with any hope of accuracy.

late fulcrum
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That would be quite cool. Maybe start off with the DNA polymerase chain reaction (PCR) to get a feel for working with the technology first? I vaguely recall most sequencers use a PCR step first, to "amplify" the DNA enough to sequence.

dusty citrus
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I almost understood what I read. Almost. Some of my intuitions about how to tackle it were good, but I needed a few assumptions (about the possible) to have guessed better.

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Surprisingly the subject has not once come up. I had to think of it myself, and then ask how it works.

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I was surprised I missed such a big thing.

late fulcrum
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I once saw what seemed to be custom designed equipment for that sort of thing in the trash, so I brought it home. It was full of solenoids, tubing, pumps, gantries, steppers, that sort of thing. It must have cost plenty when new. Unfortunately, it was almost a cubic meter in size and my roommate made me get rid of it before I could even strip out some useful parts.

jaunty jetty
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booooooooooooooo

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your roommate may have been a noid

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and then I learned that some terrifying part of the internet is really into miku hatsune x the noid

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judging by the google results it's not a healthy relationship and the noid should really seek help

sleek urchin
grave crest
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Just got my first iphone after switching from Android. Been an iPad user -- anyone have iphone-specific applications they enjoy?

proven olive
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Literally the only iOS specific app I'm even aware of is... Fight Club? It's an RPG/D&D character app

granite portal
cunning shuttle
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I use Robinhood for commission free stock investment, not sure if they’ve branched beyond iOS /web

rotund pine
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@stray wind neat - is your tut for a 1/2 or full day? last night I got asked to video another room

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@whole forum I'm recruiting video crew - travel, hotel, food expenses paid. you and or some friends interested?

near eagle
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So, I placed on order last Wednesday (June 28) and the UPS tracking shows it being picked up that day at Adafruit and is "in transit to a UPS facility", but nothing else. I also placed an order on the 29th and it shows what I expect with expected delivery tomorrow. Should I call UPS yet?

fair summit
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@near eagle Write to support@adafruit.com with the order number and tracking info; they may be able to help.

regal fjord
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Does adafruit have any videos on how soldermask is applied in their shop? I'm searching through the shop tours but haven't found where they talk about the boards getting their color or silkscreen yet, only the parts on them and pick and place, etc

near eagle
fair summit
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@regal fjord the soldermask is applied by the board fabricator

regal fjord
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Ah, so adafruit doesn't Fab the boards themselves, just manufacturer the product in house?

jaunty jetty
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etching PCBs requires large amounts of unpleasant chemicals; I would be surprized if they're allowed to do that at scale where they're located

regal fjord
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ok, i'll have to look elsewhere

rotund pine
regal fjord
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I just want to learn all about the process of coloring and custom color mixing etc.

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as done professionally

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for it's artistic merits rather than electronic applications

rotund pine
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nice spam ;/

regal fjord
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maybe "PCB Portrait Workshop"?

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and potentially "Learning Electronics and Software - the Cheesy Way"

rotund pine
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sorry about the flicker. never did figure out why that was happening :p

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no luck on the workshop (pretty much no video of any workshops "because hands on"

regal fjord
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coolio, thanks for this ill check it out

regal fjord
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Idk what this discord is about. Was that topic considered off topic or is that general material?

tame saddle
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@regal fjord here or #general-tech are fine for that question. as for the "purpose" of this discord server, i would boil it down to this: a positive space to discuss any and all topics related to making and the maker community.

regal fjord
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Ok cool. Just thought general would get more attention but didn't want to post something there that "should" be here

grave crest
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@regal fjord The channels are more of a loose guideline, mainly so the right audience sees your questions/comments. The most that'll happen is the folks here will redirect you to post in a more appropriate channel. πŸ˜ƒ We're pretty relaxed here.

grave crest
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Some days I'm confused about myself, so I run "whoami".

When I need a confidence boost, I run "sudo whoami".

jaunty jetty
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that doesn't sound like a real thing, but I used to run whowas on IRC

idle iron
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Happy Major Pollution Day

rotund pine
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man whoami ... DESCRIPTION Print the user name associated with the current effective user ID. Same as id -un.

late fulcrum
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Pollution day? Do they still use orpiment and realgar?

jaunty jetty
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I think the bigger problem is highly aerialized (not sure that's a word) carbon/sulfur compounds

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especially in the hot and humid and very very very active american south

idle iron
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I love fireworks, would hate for them to be banned. This year I will not be lighting any fireworks... I will be contributing to the pollution with my phat blunts.

I'm a little curious as to what the air quality will be today compared to tomorrow though. How much do fireworks really effect it???

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here in cali we have some fires going... ugh seems like every summer we do

jaunty jetty
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anywhere that's nice and dry should be smog safe at least, but if you set off fireworks when it's hot and the humidity is high then the carbon and sulfur compounds dissolve in the humidity, that gets weighed down and stays near the ground where the wind speeds tend to be slower, especially when it's humid and the air weighs more to begin with; this causes other sources of polution to stick around too, and then you're just living in exhaust fumes until it decides to blow away. Just like Hongkong

idle iron
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Does the "carbon and sulfur compounds" rain down later? What effect does that have on soil, I know just changing pH of soil can have huge effects.

jaunty jetty
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there's actually a weather service advisory that's basically "Hey any polution you generate today isn't going to leave, so please try to produce less, like maybe don't mow your lawn"

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oh they will, no matter where you live or what the conditions are, carbon doesn't like to stay in the air and sulfur will dissolve into water

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just look where it tends to rain downwind of you

idle iron
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does all the pollution we make on the 4th end up in Europe? I seen something about dust from Africa blows over the ocean and feeds the amazon.

jaunty jetty
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fun fact, one of the things that makes diesels better environmentally than gasoline engines is that a properly operating high compression diesel engine emits carbon and water as it's only exhaust; but both in stable forms that don't care about eachother; the H2O becomes humidity and blows away, while the C2 is stable, inert, and too heavy to stay in the air, it typically falls out of solution within hours.

idle iron
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would be an epic F'you England if we have been polluting them with fireworks LOL

jaunty jetty
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I doubt they'd make it far enough, a major factor of pollution is emission altitude, that's why jetliners, that have exhaust similarly clean to a good diesel engine, are causing some of the most damage

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if you emit those chemicals way up there, they're more inclined to go up and stay up, where they can harm the ozone layer and travel real far, where ground level stuff is more likely to impact stuff within a few hundred miles down wind

idle iron
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That makes senses.

jaunty jetty
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also clouds are the ultimate humidity

idle iron
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yeah like 100% lol

jaunty jetty
proven olive
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@jaunty jetty What is this, DUNE?

jaunty jetty
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I didn't finish reading dune, but basically

proven olive
jaunty jetty
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I can't dune.... even this feels like an eternity

proven olive
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Stick hand in box. Psycho-stuff makes you think hand is burning away.

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And... Well, that's about it, really.

jaunty jetty
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yea, I know, I read those seventy chapters

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it was around the time paul was in a tent with his mom having a drug trip about how he's the coolest for 27 chapters that I ran out of could

proven olive
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I have neither seen the entire movie(s?) nor read the book. It... does not seem like something I enjoy.

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Hand-in-box, glowing eyes, "The spice must flow" and giant worms are about all I can bring up at any given time.

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Oh, and Patrick Stewart with hair.

jaunty jetty
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according to this site Dune is 184860 words long

proven olive
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"Standard" novels are between 90,000 and 100,000 words long, give or take.

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So that's 2-ish "Standard" modern novels

jaunty jetty
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that's also the 2006 edition

proven olive
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Oh boy

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And there are ALWAYS cuts by the editor before it ever sees 1st edition.

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I can only imagine the massive first drafts

jaunty jetty
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three editors were lost among the pages, never to be seen again

torpid belfry
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Is that combining all of the Dune books? The original Dune ms. was nowhere near that big

proven olive
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Especially since, in 1965, it was likely done on a typewriter

jaunty jetty
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and paid by the word

torpid belfry
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I've owned various editions of Dune over the years; it was always the smallest of the original trilogy in every format.

proven olive
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@torpid belfry I don't know, but I have seen multiple times books being split up for printability's sake. It's why Lord of the Rings is a trilogy and not a giant tome o' doom, among other books.

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So it's possible that Frank Herbert wrote the whole trilogy as one book

jaunty jetty
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I believe part of Dune was initially printed in that magazine.... something stories?, which then lead to the publication

torpid belfry
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I think I'd heard that

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it makes the weirdness between Dune Messiah and Children of Dune a lot easier to understand

jaunty jetty
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most of the scifi from that era revolvers around ____ stories

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Astounding Stories

proven olive
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Looooong stories.

torpid belfry
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I'm still spitting mad anyone let Brian Herbert anywhere near the lost 7th manuscript though

proven olive
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Probably more worthy of the name saga than story to be fair

torpid belfry
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pretty sure the rising temperatures of climate change are a direct result of Frank spinning in his grave after seeing what his kid did to the world of Dune

jaunty jetty
torpid belfry
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Yeah, Dune is more Analog than Astounding

proven olive
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@torpid belfry There are SO many authors that had their kids/spouses/etc just... drive it off the cliff

torpid belfry
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I read a lot of my early SF in Analog serials - Vernor Vinge's Peace War, etc.

jaunty jetty
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being the kid of a famous person doesn't make you good at stuff, it just makes you in position to fail

torpid belfry
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I know that's why the publisher teamed him with Kevin Anderson, who in theory is a quite good writer

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but not even Kevin could keep Brian from desecrating Dune, violating canon, and general mayhem.

proven olive
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Well, being a good writer doesn't necessarily mean you find it easy to speak your piece about things.

jaunty jetty
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and just because you're not a good writer doesn't prevent you from yelling at people

torpid belfry
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I threw the Dune: House Atreides book across the room at one point

jaunty jetty
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see: the production of 50 Shades, where the directors tried really hard to make it a decent movie and the author eventually had them fired

torpid belfry
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when he blatantly contradicted several material facts laid out in Dune

proven olive
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Speculating, but if Brian was a bit more... forceful and Kevin tends towards the "Accept to not cause problems" end, then Kevin's writing skills matter little.

torpid belfry
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agreed

jaunty jetty
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what I can get behind is The Ocean at the End of the Lane

barren hemlock
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One book series THE WHEEL OF TIME

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I think its better than LotR

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Le gasp

cunning shuttle
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rereading that now

barren hemlock
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Oh what book are you on

cunning shuttle
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path of daggers (8)

barren hemlock
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The last battle chapter in book 14 is like 80k words long

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Fore warning

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And an inch thick

cunning shuttle
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been there, done that... though this will only be my second full read since the last book was published

barren hemlock
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I am in the middle of rereading it. On book 5.

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I took a break since I can't focus on chapter books right now. Adhd and autism are fun when you want to read. Its like i go through a cycle of can read and can't read every few years lol

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Funny thing is i can read multiple books at a time and keep the stories straight. And I don't use a book mark

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That is when i can focus on reading

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I like technical books at the moment.

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One of the random ones i have

cunning shuttle
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is that the quick start guide? sees kind of small for a space shuttle

jaunty jetty
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most of the manual is in the training you normally go through before they think about letting you pilot a space shuttle

cunning shuttle
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with the number of engineers involved I am sure that there are multiple manuals, even if the astronauts never see them. Need to have some documentation to hand over and be like RTFM

jaunty jetty
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when your throttle goes from 0 to 119%, better be a manual

late fulcrum
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I've been reading the Apollo computer description, the rocket belt operators manual, and the SR-71 pilot's manual.

grave crest
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SR-71....go fast. When in doubt, go faster.

jaunty jetty
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the only way to attack a boat full of vampires

grave crest
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Repurposed NYFD fireboat loaded with Holy Water.....a barge filled with medium-well steaks, and a natural sunlight LED Philips HUE bulb?

jaunty jetty
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maintaining large volumes of holywater is too expensive, steaks only immobilize vampires, and sunlight is magic, it has to come from the sun

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I dislike how the world has created a situation where I feel conflicted linking a 10 yearold anime based on a 20 yearold manga because two years ago an extinct political group turned out to still exist

cunning shuttle
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You wouldn’t need to keep the holy water stocked, just a member of the clergy to bless it πŸ€”

jaunty jetty
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I think you're grossly overestimating the flowrate of holy out of a clergymen

barren hemlock
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Roll a nat 20 to bless all the water in the world (cleric is a lvl 50 god tier in dnd)

jaunty jetty
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level 20 is god tier in dnd

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50 would be some kind of hypergod

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or non-wing thing

granite portal
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i was just thinking that, yeah. you could make the same thing for like 1/4 the price from scratch

jaunty jetty
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might be more like 1/3~1/2 at scale, but they must be doing something weird and expensive

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plus what's the use of one foot

main kiln
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Honestly, this chat room is better than reddit when I am feeling bored or down.

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Side note, the Pope doesn't specifically have a range to what amount of water he can bless at one time. I am pretty sure, though, that he has to acknowledge all beings that he does bless, so blessing the ocean would be really tough without a census of all animal life visible to the naked eye.

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So, in theory, all you gotta do is have a reverse osmotic filter, or just a 1/4 in mesh and boiling the hell out of the tank, and you could have water blessed at a solid 1 gallon per hour if you had the right heater

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With one hell of a reservoir.

jaunty jetty
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1 gallon per hour is not really suitable for a riot hose

dusty citrus
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Well if you get say 5 ml of blessed water and add it to a gallon of local (unblessed) water, does it commute to the entire gallon, or is the blessing dilute, or what?

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BONUS if it does bless the gallon, at what speed does the blessing propagate?

jaunty jetty
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the water that was blessed remains blessed and may distributed itself through the gallon eventually, like water based food coloring

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the question then becomes what ionic concentration of blessing is harmful to a vampire, it's Bh if you will

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alternatively you can just put a church sanctioned high tier vampire in a blackbird and dive it at top speed from cruising altitude into their boat

dusty citrus
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.oO( .. I like that they posited a boat ..)

jaunty jetty
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I think that was the name of the thing....

dusty citrus
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You got credit for the channel activity flag!

jaunty jetty
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I what?

dusty citrus
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Even with a dyno-slap.

jaunty jetty
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is dyno known for censuring words inside other words?

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how are we supposed to talk about the famed family of germanic vampire hunters now

dusty citrus
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Yes it's a filter so a plus two esses might flag it in an innocent word that contains that string.

jaunty jetty
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esses?

dusty citrus
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A copy of any rejected utterance appears to the moderators (presumably in a channel format)

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So if you happened to solve Fermat's Last Theorem (independently) you can get a copy if you ask a mod.

jaunty jetty
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I understand how the system works, but I'm having a hard job understanding you

dusty citrus
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I've noticed.

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I'm not that much better in the spoken word, I think. ;)

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You can hear me in the Circuit Python weekly meeting.

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(I'm both obstinate and self-appointed authorative) (hehe)

jaunty jetty
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I would hope so

dusty citrus
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To me an 'author' is authorative. Nothing more or less to it. At some point you stand on your own authority. Unfortunately the word has another sense of meaning to it that's quite different, as it imposes specifics (beyond word-work) on others.

jaunty jetty
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exploring etymologies, , it appears that author and authority are not actually that closely related

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authority routes from middle english to latin, etc; while author is norman via french

dusty citrus
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That's an awful shame as they're spelled identically for a run of .. six .. letters, starting with the first one.

jaunty jetty
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author is closer to authentic

dusty citrus
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Aha!

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So maybe one was 'otter' and the other was audtor (auditor)

jaunty jetty
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the authority one would attribute to an author for being the creator of a thing is authoritative

dusty citrus
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haha

jaunty jetty
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english

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don't expect it to make sense

dusty citrus
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I don't know -- maybe when a word sounded enough the same it got the same spelling even though it's a 'merge' with another sense of (now) the same word, with a completely different root and history.

jaunty jetty
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yep

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just like how a couple thousand years ago the symbols I and Z swapped which phonemes they represented

dusty citrus
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When I was a kid I thought it was either Latin or Greek in origin, period. I didn't stop to consider other (or derived) sources, even though french was an obvious one (as I thought these things).

jaunty jetty
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frank, german, nordic, middle eastern, slavic, african, so many options

dusty citrus
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The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society (England) are online, and at least for a while, they offered PDF's of the scanned pages of the originals (hundreds or thousands of these images were on offer).

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It was all free during their 'open house' when they initially offered the collection.

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It's the only really detailed sampling I have (personally) of publication practices during that era.

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There are a few notable differences from the 20th century standards (for works in print).

cursive pike
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I watched a BBC docudrama this week called MicroMen about the early days of the British microcomputer industry. Specifically Sinclair (my first computer was a Sinclair ZX81), Acorn, and the BBC Micro. I noticed near the end, design notes for the original ARM chip on a whiteboard in the Acorn office. Acorn designed the first ARM CPUs. The ARM design has become dominant in the MCU industry. For example the SAMD21/51 in the lastest Adafruit boards has an ARM CPU core at their heart.

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Also, the Micro:bit is the spiritual descendant of the BBC Micro.

late fulcrum
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Yeah, ARM stands for "Acorn RISC Machine"

cursive pike
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The goal with the BBC Micro was a computer in every school. The goal for the Micro:bit is a computer for every student.

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@late fulcrum yup

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Anyway, a neat bit of history. It's quite well Done. Martin Freeman costars (Watson, Bilbo, the main chgaracter in season 1 of Fargo).

late fulcrum
cursive pike
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Very cool

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ARM based MCUs are EVRYWHERE.

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The majority of the hardware we made at SteelSeries used a Cortex M0 or M3 based MCU.

late fulcrum
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I learned assembly on the 6800, and moved on to several other architectures, including PIC. I found I really liked the ARM architecture and instruction set.

cursive pike
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It's rather impressive how ubiquitous it is.

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I learned on 6502 and Z80, haven't tried ARM assembly ... yet.

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There's a Scheme implementation in ARM asm that I wouldn't mind porting to the SAMD51.

late fulcrum
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I kept running out of accumulators (registers) on the 6800, since it only had 2 (plus 2 index registers). The ARM, with 16 registers (I think one was the program counter, however), was a pleasant change of pace.

cursive pike
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Yeah, that was the big difference between the 6502 (1 accumulator) and the Z80.

late fulcrum
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One of the instruction bits let you decide whether that instruction would affect the flags (zero, overflow, etc.), so you could do a test or operation, and a few instructions later, branch based on one of the flags. It really worked for me. Also, the indexing modes were very familiar to me as a C programmer.

cursive pike
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That's a nice feature... selective flag modificatiohn.

late fulcrum
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The Z80 is a great CPU, I just didn't get to spend much time playing with one in those days. I had a friend with a TRS-80, and we kept doing horrible things to it, like trying to put three video boards in it, and use one each for red, green, and blue to get a color display. Never did get that hack to work.

cursive pike
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Nice.

late fulcrum
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My first ARM project booted from 8-bit flash, then upshifted to 16 bits to talk to dual port RAM. I tried to shift all the address lines to make everything come out even, but there weren

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weren't enough logic cells in the GAL22V10 to manage it, so I just moved one address line from one end to the other. That meant that the 8-bit addressing was scrambled weirdly, but by reverse-scrambling the boot code to match and burning that into the flash, it actually worked.

cursive pike
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Dense

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VLSI was Acorn's initial silicon partner

late fulcrum
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Ah, that makes sense. I didn't know that!

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There's a bizarre story about that board. We were making it for a big outfit, and wanted some nice pictures of it for documentation. As it happened, my sweetie worked at a photo lab, so we had her take the pictures. Some other company sent her some boards for pictures and she noticed they were pretty similar, so she brought me a picture of one. It turned out another small company a few miles from me was solving essentially the same problem in about the same way, working for a different division of the same big outfit!

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It was sheerest coincidence we both sent our boards a few states away, to the same photo lab.

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The job had originally been handed out to yet another company, but they viewed as competition to one of their existing products, so they just dragged their feet and failed to build a working prototype. When I met the chip designer, he was gruff and unhelpful (in retrospect it was because he was tired of people wasting his time). Later, when we had the first prototypes fabbed, I got in touch again, explained that we had them booting and running code, but I was having issues with a few particulars. He instantly became very friendly and helpful.

jaunty jetty
#

y'ever think about how doc' oc's arm things are basically the perfect EVA mobility system

late fulcrum
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Now that you mention it, they'd be great for that. Similar approach to Invader Zim's backpack with its three extending arms.

cursive pike
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@jaunty jetty Many times, over very many years.

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I was reading Spiderman comics before reading comics was cool.

sick adder
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TFW you have 3,000 lines of "undefined symbol" errors from the linker

jaunty jetty
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TFW when the autorouter is too smart to understand the very simple way to lay out a board and you've already manually laid half of the board, but you're probably going to manyally lay the other half too

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it's been at 67.9% for over 5 minutes

late fulcrum
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I know that feel! Sometimes I've left easy sets of parallel traces for it, to avoid doing the repetitive work myself, but the autorouter skips the easy and obvious solution and ties itself in knots trying to be clever.

jaunty jetty
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sudden urge to build a dedicated QR display using SMD LEDs

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you could make your wifi in a caffe shift passwords every day and then your customers just scan the widget on your counter to get on

late fulcrum
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Oooo! Good job for the IS31FL3731.

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Sure, it would be easier with a TFT, but COOLER with an LED array!

cunning shuttle
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it would be interesting to see the separation tolerance of the qr standard. The minimum resolution of modules seems to be 25 columns & rows

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it would have to be bright enough to make a clear contrast, but might need some sort of light isolation to prevent light bleed

grave crest
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Straws. Great for isolation.

jaunty jetty
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a sheet of parchment paper up close would probably be good

cunning shuttle
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and then the suggested scanning distance is roughly 10 x the width

jaunty jetty
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I bet if we use a duotone pattern instead of lit vs unlit it'd work better, so some kind of addressable RGB system

sleek urchin
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I was so good.. but I'm already back up to a dozen fountain pens!

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(good thing chinese pens are cheap! have given away like a dozen as well as I tried to figure out what I liked in a pen!)

cunning shuttle
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i swear by pilot g-2 .5 mm gel pens

main kiln
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Use an eInk display? There are decent places to source those

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Actually, E ink would be the perfect way to do that whole process. Since it would only have to update 1 time per day. Perfect contrast at all light levels.

jaunty jetty
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eInk is too eAsy

main kiln
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bUt mY eInk...

cunning shuttle
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i actually saw a three color eInk display, plan to get back to that one of these days

main kiln
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Those displays are jank as heck I've heard. Issues with burn in are really bad due to the refresh protocol necessary to display a third color

cunning shuttle
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i think that's a single color version

late fulcrum
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I lost my Shaeffer fountain pen, so I'm using one of the cheap "beautiful writing" ones, with a copperplate nib.

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That 7.5 inch eInk display seems like overkill, but would be scannable from a fair distance. I've used the Pervasive Displays "Aurora" series little ones. The breakout board comes with built-in connectors that plug right on to the TI "LaunchPad" boards.

cunning shuttle
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well you could do other branding on the display

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or you could just get a smaller display and mount it in your branding

late fulcrum
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Yup, you could put daily specials, flavours on offer, jokes, comics, dank memes, whatever along with the QR code.

main kiln
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I think the E Ink display would be superior to any other option due to power consumption.

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Although a 7.5" screen would only be enough for a logo and the QR code

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On the topic of fountain pens. I own 5 Pilot Metropolitans for a reason XD

cunning shuttle
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qr minimum spec is 1.25"

main kiln
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But you gotta stand up right next to the thing to scan it

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give them some range

late fulcrum
main kiln
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Honestly, I need to do more projects that could use an e ink dsiplay

cunning shuttle
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is that a custom board?

late fulcrum
tame saddle
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@cunning shuttle Pilot G-2 is my goto as well. Can't beat those things. The only time I don't use it: greeting cards. They just refuse to dry on those things...

cunning shuttle
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yeah, have to remember to leave them open to dry.

tame saddle
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i've tried that a couple times. had one dry overnight...still smudgy.

cunning shuttle
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hm, have to make your own cards then, they work well on cardstock and vellum

tame saddle
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now i just ball point or ultra-fine sharpie.

cunning shuttle
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@late fulcrum is that a stolen warning on the screen πŸ€”

late fulcrum
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Yeah, it's designed as a tracker for high-value items. It reads "secure" when everything's fine, and "stolen" when it isn't. We later changed it to say "lost". πŸ˜ƒ

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That MikroBus cellular modem got swapped out for an AdaFruit Fona 808. There's also an AdaFruit nRF8001 Bluetooth breakout in the back right corner.

cunning shuttle