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indigo jetty
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("remote" cause it's one of those evil ones with the wire attached to the car!)

abstract violet
hollow oasis
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It is very interesting how different the communities of Hackaday and Adafruit are

polar wraith
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How so, @hollow oasis?

abstract violet
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Just realised ElectroBoom on youtube is actually my neighbour xD @indigo jetty

indigo jetty
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I wonder does he cause any power outages

spice moss
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ok I think too much with Mixed reality to maker space as design device and then make it for real

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@stuck moth think your Rosie CI as you put camera showing it shows emotion how happy rosie is or if there is errors on builds in Mixer reality

hollow oasis
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@polar wraith Adafruit is more supportive, while Hackaday is more competitive.

elfin wave
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I can be more supportive than you!

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(there, I combined them :D)

idle iron
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some peach blossom fish have been spotted at a lake near me, I want to go do some spongebob style jellyfishing

hollow oasis
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Hahah @elfin wave

indigo jetty
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One of the guys sent on a clip of the chicken win from his perspective, I'm so excited in it

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Unfortunately there is some not so friendly language in it so I won't share here (not me and nothing terrible, just not suitable for the young ones!)

stuck moth
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@indigo jetty pm it to me so I can see!

elfin wave
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yeah, I can take some swears

stuck moth
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@bold turtle my toaster oven shipped but they didn't give me a tracking number 🙄

bold turtle
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@stuck moth finally... Also, wth?

stuck moth
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yeah, weird

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it'll probably come next week sometime

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good thing there wasn't a rush

bold turtle
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You are more patient than me, @stuck moth

spice moss
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soon it's blinka toaster

stuck moth
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I try @bold turtle

bold turtle
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@stuck moth you do your board design in kicad right?

stuck moth
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yup, kicad nightly

fair summit
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@stuck moth I ordered the same toaster oven but I am only going to reflow cheese with it.

stuck moth
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😃

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did it ship yet?

fair summit
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I got the shipping email today, same as you. I think I ordered a day or two later. Also no tracking number.

stuck moth
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weird

fair summit
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There is no order tracker mechanism on the website so I think they are just barely in the computer age. Probably not finished converting their old 800-number order system.

stuck moth
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haha, ya

bold turtle
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... now i want reflowed cheeses on a sourdough substrate... blaming you @fair summit

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ohh... or sourdough cheezy garlic bread....

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dangit, @fair summit, this is past my lunch break.....

fair summit
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We needed a new one because the heating element in our Cusinart was doing this. A common problem apparently.

📎 IMG_0919.JPG
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Hard to see but it's also splitting open on the left side of the element.

spice moss
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toaster oven run by circuitpython

indigo jetty
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I'm actually going to push my live stream til Sunday, my sister is home from London

stuck moth
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@indigo jetty @elfin wave @abstract violet PUBG time after I post the release announcement to the forums

elfin wave
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Ooh. Dinnertime for us now but I might be free in a few hours

stuck moth
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k, I likely won't be because my girlfriend will be home from work

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gonna sneak some time in now

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I'll be off and on all weekend though

indigo jetty
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I'm in bed so a reluctant no for me @stuck moth

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I'm trying to go to bed earlier these days!

abstract violet
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@stuck moth @indigo jetty pm me your guys' steam ~

indigo jetty
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It's witnessmenow

abstract violet
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@indigo jetty count your breaths... it knocks me out all the time..

indigo jetty
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I'm not to bothered who has it 😂

abstract violet
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mine's prettygooey

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same

indigo jetty
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Have fun, I'm sure we'll play soon!

abstract violet
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cheers, added

stuck moth
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I'm tannewt @cascade

elfin wave
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And, surprisingly, I'm Sigafoos

stuck moth
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gah #5

elfin wave
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@stuck moth I thought you'd be done by now 😃

stuck moth
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hiding in bush

elfin wave
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I'm up for some games when you're done

stuck moth
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gah!

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#11

elfin wave
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yes

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one sec

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hrm

chilly steeple
elfin wave
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@stuck moth and I got 9/50 in PUBG duos! without ever seeing another person.

stuck moth
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yay!

elfin wave
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and I honked a horn

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which was my personal victory condition

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PUBG is basically a camping simulator for me. I hike through the woods, maybe have a few (energy) drinks...

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No shooting or tactics for me!

sturdy hawk
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#win was paying my internet bill and was digging through the different packages. Was able to double my download speed and save $5 a month with a new package they have 😃

runic elbow
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I think I found out what I want to put on my old WIndows XP machine.

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React OS.

runic elbow
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Now that I look at it, probably isn't the best idea.

chilly steeple
gray aspen
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debian. always.

vast condor
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You could even throw Raspbian on it @runic elbow (debian based)

runic elbow
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Wasn't Raspbian designed for the Raspberry Pi?

vast condor
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It runs fine on normal PCs. old article, but here's the setup: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/pixel-pc-mac/

Raspberry Pi
Eben Upton
PIXEL for PC and Mac - Raspberry Pi

Our vision in establishing the Raspberry Pi Foundation was that everyone should be able to afford their own programmable general-purpose computer. The intention has always been that the Raspberry Pi should be a full-featured desktop computer at a $35 price point. In support of this, and in parallel with our hardware development efforts, we’ve …

runic elbow
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Oh, interesting. I might try that.

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Maybe when I get a good disc. The most I have is 700 Megabytes on a disc.

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Good thing the hard drive is about eight gigabytes.

lost condor
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So at the DragonCon parade today I ran into someone else using NeoPixels...

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I told him about the Discord. 😄

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His TV head is quite a bit denser than my sousaphone.

runic elbow
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looks awesome.

ancient rivet
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thats neat. did the tv play animations?

abstract violet
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aww 😄

lost condor
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It wasn't animating at the time, but he said he could do more with it

elfin wave
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Was he Prince Robot??

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They both look awesome

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I don't know if you're supposed to be something specific but I dig it

lost condor
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I was the Ice King from Adventure Time

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It's more obvious when my kid, dressed as Fionna, is next to me.

ancient rivet
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mathematical!

runic elbow
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https://www.youtube.com/user/Druaga1 This is where I get all my information on computers.

YouTube
Druaga1

My channel has a large variety of videos, mostly revolving around technology, music, and gaming. All in all, there is probably something here for everyone. B...

runic elbow
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I have decided: I'm putting ReactOS on the old WIndows XP machine.

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Because I have nothing better to do today.

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Plus I'm not about to let one of my oldest computers go obsolete.

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Plus I wanna see how many times I can crash it just by using it normally.

runic elbow
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I haveba live CD ready.

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But first, I wanna mess around with Windows ME on this computer.

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Ok, turns out after installing drivers, Windows ME is unable to restart properly.

bold turtle
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This is what comes from Windows MistakeEdition

runic elbow
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Good lord, it sounds like the hard disk is dying.

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Jeez, I think it IS dying.

gray aspen
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If you've installed it, that's probably due to system restore

runic elbow
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No, this is an old drive we've had a while.

gray aspen
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Still, because system restore hammers the crap out of it

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Windows ME was the first implementation of it before Windows XP ran with it.

runic elbow
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Yep.

gray aspen
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iirc WinME also introduced WDM driver types/architecture and had memory leaks when accessing files over 500mb in size

runic elbow
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Oh my.

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Are memory leaks bad?

gray aspen
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Memory leaks are bad

runic elbow
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Like, is it storage? Or the RAM?

gray aspen
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It's the RAM. RAM is memory. Storage is not.

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

gray aspen
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Modern marketing has blurred this definition.

runic elbow
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Then I guess it's good I only hae 456 megs of RAM.

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On this machine.

gray aspen
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Oh dear.

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It means you won't have much of the 456 meg of RAM left to use.

runic elbow
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Probably not.

gray aspen
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Yay swapfile.

runic elbow
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Whoo.

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What's Swapfile?

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Also, how do I set the CD drive as the boot device?

gray aspen
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A swap file is basically virtualised RAM, it uses a file on your hard drive as though it's RAM and swaps content between actual RAM and the virtual RAM. It's slow.

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I can't tell you how to set the CD drive as the boot device, that's dependant on the computer you're using and it might not support it.

runic elbow
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Ok, thank you.

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If I can't get React OS working, at least I'll have a Windows ME machine.

gray aspen
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Try browsing the internet with internet explorer. That'll be entertaining.

lost condor
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Don't do that. 😄

runic elbow
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Yep. Just as soon as I get it near an internet thing.

lost condor
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That's like saying "Try walking through a swamp with an open wound"

runic elbow
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I'm sure it isn't that bad.

gray aspen
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Pages render rather amusingly

lost condor
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It's not a matter of "if" you'll get infected, it's a matter of "What terrible way will it kill you"

runic elbow
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Oh, so stick with the React OS there?

gray aspen
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Not entirely likely, it's probably IE4 and most malware online would be expecting at least IE6.

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The problem you'll have is lack of standards support.

lost condor
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I mean, if you're brave enough. 😄

runic elbow
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It has Norton. So nope, not going there.

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I think my disc drive is broken.

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Because it isn't doing anything.

gray aspen
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Floppy disk or CD drive?

runic elbow
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CD. Floppies are disks. CDs are discs.

gray aspen
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So your CD drive will only do something if you have a driver for it, and this is assuming the internal connections are correct for it also.

runic elbow
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They are.

gray aspen
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And that it's enabled in the BIOS.

runic elbow
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I'm trying to set it to boot the React OS love CD.

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And it should be enabled.

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I enabled it.

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Live CD*

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Not love CD

gray aspen
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I'm also assuming that it's been in its default configuration since you got the machine, and you haven't needed to mess about with it being master, slave or cable select and on the correct IDE cable plug.

runic elbow
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It is he secondary master.

gray aspen
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If the disc spins, then from what I recall, even if you set the CD drive to be the default boot device, it typically asks you to press a key to boot from the CD.

runic elbow
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It doesn't do that. I turn it on, it asks me to press Del t go to setup, or F1 to go normally. Then it boots into Windows ME.

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When I press F1

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I have the hard disk disabled al together, and now it says nothing is there.

gray aspen
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Sometimes F8 or F10 can be pressed to bring up a boot menu.

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If it's booting into Windows ME still, some BIOSs have a setting to "boot other device" where it searches for something to boot from, which could explain why it's still booting from the hard drive.

runic elbow
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So enable it, and press F8 before Windows ME boots?

gray aspen
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You could try that

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I've had computers where I've had to leave 'boot other device' enabled and it was a hacky method to boot from USB or CD.

runic elbow
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O.

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Ok*

vast condor
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It depends on the bios. F8, F10, delete... I've seen them all

runic elbow
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I can't get it.

gray aspen
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Accessing the cd drive works in windows me?

runic elbow
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Yes, but it can't read the ISO in the live CD.

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I literally JUST copied it onto the disc, I have no idea what's going on.

gray aspen
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Copying the .iso file to the CD doesn't work. You have to use software which writes the .iso image to the CD.

runic elbow
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Oh.

gray aspen
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By writing in this case, I mean it takes every bit and copies it over 1:1 to the CD

runic elbow
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So I need to do it again?

gray aspen
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Effectively extracting it to it, but not exactly.

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Yes.

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eg. use IMGBurn if you're using windows.

vast condor
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You need software to create a live disc

runic elbow
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Oh. Is there a free softwae for this?

vast condor
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Yes

gray aspen
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IMGBurn is free.

runic elbow
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Oh cool.

gray aspen
runic elbow
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Thank you.

vast condor
runic elbow
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Thanks.

gray aspen
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@vast condor Will that work with ReactOS?

vast condor
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@gray aspen it should

gray aspen
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I'm not clear if ReactOS is linux based or if it requires the ability to write a boot section to the CD, linux live CDs typically don't need that kind of hidden magic, though mainly Windows did that type of thing.

runic elbow
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I hope I can get this done tonight. I would like to make a video about React OS.

gray aspen
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@vast condor Does that software only write to USB sticks, or does it also write to CDs?

vast condor
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@gray aspen you choose the media, so yes works for a CD or flash drive. Fairly certain at least.

runic elbow
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Sounds pretty handy.

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Thanks for the software suggestions.

vast condor
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I've used it for like 4 or 5 different Linux distros

runic elbow
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You guys really helped me out. Thanks.

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Wait, is Pendrivelinux supposed to be an EXE or a ZIP?

gray aspen
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Sometimes you get self extracting zip archives which are exe files.

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

gray aspen
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Websites don't tend to label these very well.

vast condor
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You're welcome @runic elbow! You need the full iso file

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One single iso file

runic elbow
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Awesome sauce!

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Already got that.

vast condor
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The live CD will handle everything

runic elbow
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Wait, will it install itself on my Windows ME drive? I wanna keep that Installation of Windows ME. It's the only one I have.

gray aspen
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You will have to repartition your hard drive if you want to install the OS to it alongside Windows ME. If ReactOS supports doing so.

vast condor
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Live CD software* you can run it off the CD

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

vast condor
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If you run it off the CD, none of your data will save after reboot

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Dual booting windows ME and Linux is going to be a mess

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Windows ME has been supported for a lifetime, just wipe it

runic elbow
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I have no idea how this software works.

vast condor
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You're asking for all sorts of problems if you connect that to the web

runic elbow
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I won't.

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I never planned to.

gray aspen
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So apparently ReactOS isn't linux.

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It's based on WindowsNT architecture.

runic elbow
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Oh cool.

gray aspen
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So that will behave differently to how linux would when trying to run it alongside WindowsME on the same hard drive.

runic elbow
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Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

gray aspen
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I'm still not entirely clear on what ReactOS is without using it myself.

runic elbow
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Ok.

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How do I use this live CD software? I can't figure it out.

gray aspen
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I recommend you use imgburn to write the iso to the CD.

runic elbow
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Ok.

vast condor
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If it's not Linux based then yes, you should use imgburn

runic elbow
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Ok.

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Which download should I get?

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There's quite a few here.

gray aspen
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For imgburn?

runic elbow
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Yes.

gray aspen
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It's the old school way of providing different mirrors to the same file.

runic elbow
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So they're all the same?

gray aspen
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Are you running Windows?

runic elbow
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Yes. 32 bit Windows 7 Professional.

gray aspen
runic elbow
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Ok, thank you.

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This is going to be an interesting experience.

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Taking a bit to open.

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Ok, it's open.

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How do I select what disc to put it on? And what ISO to put on it?

gray aspen
runic elbow
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I do. I clicked the top left one.

gray aspen
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Then you should see this option

runic elbow
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It's doing stuff wthout my permission.

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I didn't click anthig after the first screen.

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It's just doing things.

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It added a search manager extension to chrome.

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Why is it doin this?

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A threat has been detected!

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What the hell did you link me?

gray aspen
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Imgburn software doesn't do that at all.

runic elbow
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Well its doing that.

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Avast is makng me do a boottime scan.

gray aspen
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You may have downloaded an installer which was either wrapped around imgburn, or not imgburn which asked you if you wanted to install that.

runic elbow
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I clicked Number seven on the page you linked me.

gray aspen
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Unfortunately this happens and we should be wary about sites which can do that.

runic elbow
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All I wanted was to see how badly I could crash React OS.

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At least Avast caught the virus.

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It's doing a boot time scan right now.

gray aspen
runic elbow
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That's EXACTLY what it was.

gray aspen
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You have to "click here to customize the installation" and tell it not to install those parts.

runic elbow
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Why the hell was Chromium just put on my desktop?

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And is this thing easy to find? Or am I screwed?

gray aspen
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You should be able to find it in 'programs and features' or 'add/remove programs' in control panel.

runic elbow
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Well, at least Twitter isn't the default browser anymore.

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Avast hasn't said anything, yet.

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Also, it would have been nice if I was warned about that.

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Somethig is opening.

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I have no idea what it is.

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This better not be a super destructive virus.

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It looks like Avast was the thint opening.

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It is.

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Ok, I set it ALL to install in a folder. Do you thin it would have also installed he virus in the folder?

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No it did not.

gray aspen
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You haven't installed a virus. You will want to check for the software you installed in Windows' software list to uninstall it from control panel or similar as I suggested.

runic elbow
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Why didn't you warn me about this? Did yu forget?

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Ok

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Now my disc drive is revving up.

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I don't think I can trust lins here, anymore.

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Considering this just happened.

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Links*

gray aspen
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To be fair to what just happened, aside from not trusting links being practically sensible, reading what you're installing also makes sense. There are some things I do from experience these days and customising installations is second nature to me, understandably it isn't to everyone that is not experienced with it.

runic elbow
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Ok.

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It popped up. The fake antivirus. It says hundreds have issues have been found.

vast condor
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@runic elbow avast will detect other anti virus protection as a false positive anyways.

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That's what that software was. It's not "fake"

runic elbow
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It's multiplaying.

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More windows are slowly popping up.

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How do I get rid of this?

gray aspen
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Do you know how to uninstall software from your computer?

vast condor
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Just uninstall it

runic elbow
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Yes, but I need to know the exact location of the virus.

gray aspen
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No, it's installed as software. Use the standard uninstall procedure for software to remove it.

runic elbow
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So the uninstall thing Imgburn gave me?

gray aspen
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No, that uninstalls imgburn.

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You're wanting to uninstall ByteFence

runic elbow
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And how do I do that? I have no idea where it is.

gray aspen
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Okay, so you want help on uninstalling software from your computer.

runic elbow
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Yes.

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Because I need the location of the file to delete it.

gray aspen
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That's not how uninstalling works.

runic elbow
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Ok, how do I do it?

gray aspen
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That's an official microsoft support URL, pretty sure you can trust that link.

runic elbow
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The fake antivirus windows are blocking the page.

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I'm not clicking the X.

gray aspen
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Shall I send the steps to you in a message?

runic elbow
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Yes please.

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I found it.

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Ok, I found add and remove programs, and told it to uninstall the thing.

gray aspen
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Chromium was the other software also installed.

runic elbow
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Is Chromium safe? If so, I can remove that later. I mean the Chromium this thing installed.

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It says "Thanks for trying Bytefence"

gray aspen
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I wouldn't trust this install of chromium. Usually chromium is safe, however it may have something custom to it.

runic elbow
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And asking me to uninstall and reoot.

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What do I do here?

gray aspen
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Uninstall and reboot

runic elbow
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I just want it gone.

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Click the thing it wants me to do?

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The virus is telling me to do this.

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It is the thing givin me that option.

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I don't trust this thing.

gray aspen
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You'll be okay.

runic elbow
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I swear to god, if this kills my PC.

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Click the uninstall and reboot button the virus is givin me?

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Is that the one I click?

gray aspen
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I really can't click it for you.

runic elbow
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Will the other things do stuff after the install?

gray aspen
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I'm not sure what other things you're referring to.

runic elbow
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I mean uninstall,

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The other stuff it put on my machine.

gray aspen
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Using the installer, you installed three pieces of software. You haven't uninstalled chromium or imgburn, and clicking the button should reboot and uninstall the most problematic out of the three. I would suggest uninstalling chromium when your computer boots back up.

runic elbow
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Ok.

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But what about "Advanced PC care"?

gray aspen
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That may be a part of finishing the uninstall process that will happen when you uninstall and reboot, that whatever that is will be removed, if it was installed as part of bytefence.

runic elbow
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It doesn't appear to be doing anything.

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The screensaver came up.

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Is it actually uninstalling or do I need to click somethin else?

gray aspen
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If the dialogue boxes have gone away, perhaps restart the computer yourself.

runic elbow
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They're still there.

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I cannot believe this just happened.

gray aspen
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Do you mean the prompt to uninstall and restart is still there?

runic elbow
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No, the two "We found issues" windows are still there.

gray aspen
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I suggest looking through the list of software for other apps that you're not expecting to be there, and uninstalling them. Including chromium.

runic elbow
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Ok.

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I can't click it.

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It just dings.

gray aspen
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Have you restarted your computer?

runic elbow
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No, I am not risking that.

gray aspen
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If you're not going to click on the option that says 'uninstall and restart' then it's going to ding because that window has taken ownership of what's going on, that's a Windows OS thing. If you're not going to restart the computer so it can finish the uninstall process and remove the icons/software, you're going to still see it. I'm not sure what not doing these things is going to achieve.

runic elbow
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I did click it.

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But I don't trust it.

gray aspen
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Also software such as Avast isn't suitably catered to fully removing software like this, because avast is anti-virus software, not entirely anti-malware, if it stays around after you reboot the computer. You'll want to use software such as spybot search & destroy, or malware bytes.

runic elbow
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Fine, I'll restart my machine.

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The intall thing is still running.

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Install*

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Wait, I figured ot why.

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Out*

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I think I'll just use the imae burner my dad put on the family machine.

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Image*

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Not messing around with Imgburner anymore.

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The windows are still there.

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Also, the Add/remove software thing is frozen.

gray aspen
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That can sometimes appear to happen if there's a dialogue box awaiting your input somewhere.

runic elbow
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I found that.

gray aspen
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I'm not clear on what you have or haven't done at this point, or what state your computer is in, because you seem to refuse to do things that are being suggested. If your computer had been restarted you wouldn't still have the add/remove software window, and you wouldn't still have the windows/dialogue boxes open.

abstract violet
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sorry. had to.

runic elbow
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I went to Remove programs, and went to remove Bytefence. A window popped up, telling me it wold uninstall and reboot. Anther window popped up, with the progress bar. When it finished, I clicked close on it.

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Now my entire desktop, besides the task bar, is frozen.

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It roze after I found the folder Advanced PC care made, threw it int the recycle bin, and tried to empty it.

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It unfroze, and I deleted this folder.

gray aspen
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Windows tends to freeze when it's waiting for something. Considering it said that you should reboot the computer, you've interrupted the steps by going ahead and trying to delete the folder yourself.

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It probably had to wait until a lock had timed out on a file it was trying to access.

runic elbow
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Ok.

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Well, at least it's gone.

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Finally gone.

gray aspen
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You should still reboot your computer.

runic elbow
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The recycle bin is still takin cre of Advanced PC Care.

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Care*

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Thank god this thing was easy to remove.

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Ok, everythin is gone. No more viruses.

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Thanks for helping me remove it.

gray aspen
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Great.

runic elbow
gray aspen
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Mouse is too new 😉

tender nimbus
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Doesnt that look a bit old? @runic elbow

indigo jetty
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Good work @runic elbow

indigo jetty
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My blank steaming area canvas

indigo jetty
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My masterpiece 😂

vast condor
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@indigo jetty Love it

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🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

indigo jetty
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Thanks, only took nearly an hour 😂

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Starting in a couple of minutes

runic elbow
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Looks nice. Definetly better then my set up for my main PC.

indigo jetty
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i planned to stream for 2 hours, ended up streaming for nearly 4

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am wrecked!

runic elbow
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Oh my.

indigo jetty
stuck moth
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PUBG anyone? @indigo jetty @elfin wave

elfin wave
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grrrr I'd really like to but it's almost dinner...

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okay one game

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😄

stuck moth
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I'll be a bad influence

elfin wave
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we're already on a team, it seems!

indigo jetty
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eh

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I dunno what i said 😃

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I know what it is "pack ing"

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i probably won't @stuck moth im tidying up after the stream

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will probably be an hour before im home and work in the morning

stuck moth
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we're in voice chat

tiny moat
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I might have to buy into this at some point...

indigo jetty
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@tiny moat do, its so good

tiny moat
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@indigo jetty But SEM parts... Or video game... Or SEM parts...

indigo jetty
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I've never played a game that can get my heart literally racing as much as this game can

gray aspen
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My PC struggles to play it, may be part of the reason why I struggle to kill anyone

elfin wave
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it's $40... that can't be too many SEM parts

vast condor
stuck moth
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I spent more on the pc to play it

elfin wave
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my favorite part is when people run by you because you're hiding

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and then we get into a firefight and lose because I don't have a scope 😦

stuck moth
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#6 is still pretty good

elfin wave
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yeah! out of 50 teams!

stuck moth
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I struggle with the transition from using alt to look to shooting down the sights

elfin wave
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we have the general idea down I think. go somewhere secluded, get stuff, stay out of the way

gray aspen
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@vast condor I've ran steam on an AWS (amazon) server and streamed using Steam's in house streaming. It worked reasonably well for Grand Theft Auto 5, though you're paying a fee to run the windows server and the nvidia cloud instance.

elfin wave
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it's just when we have to actually, y'know, shoot people

gray aspen
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OnLive was really good. #rip

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@elfin wave Yes there's little opportunity to practice with the weapons

indigo jetty
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you need to go aggresive for a few games to practise

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land at school etc

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you'll probably die but at least you'll get in a few fights!

elfin wave
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yeah, I've done that

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I'm still not great but better

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I didn't have any scope at all. that's what killed me this game.

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I should have stayed in the bush and tried to micro uzi them

stuck moth
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anybody else want to play?

indigo jetty
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I'm just home now and wrecked so definitely no from me

gray aspen
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I get about 29-60fps with some stuttering from texture load in.

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Managed to handle that a bit with disabling SLI and overclocking the gfx card by modding the bios

elfin wave
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Do you use reshade?

stuck moth
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#5 of 92

indigo jetty
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So close you can smell the poultry

stuck moth
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yeah, it was pretty intense

runic elbow
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On windows 10, I went to download React OS for a live CD. I went through the steps, and before the download started, Edge asked me what I want to do with React OS. How can I make it save to the desktop?

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I have no idea how to open the file location on Windows 10.

flint python
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You are using edge?

runic elbow
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Yes, Edge.

flint python
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My guess is it puts it into your "Downloads" folder

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let me double check

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look in c:\Users\<your user name>\Downloads

runic elbow
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Ok.

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I should probably gt more familiar with Windows 10.

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How do I get there?

flint python
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You can hit the windows key + E

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which will open up an explorer window

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When you go to download something with Edge, you can also click on the ^ next to the "Save" button and it will give you a "Save As" option

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to let you save it where ever you want

runic elbow
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Oh cool. Thanks.

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So use Save As to put it on the desktop?

flint python
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Yeah, you can hit Save As then that will open a new window, and on the left column of that window you can click on "Desktop" which should be an option

runic elbow
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Cool. Thank you.

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It won't let me. It's only letting me open folders.

flint python
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Once you select "Desktop", click on the "Save" button in the lower right of that new window

runic elbow
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There is no save button. It will only let me open folders.

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It pops up for a second when I click Desktop, then changes to Open.

flint python
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Oh

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Make sure you don't have a folder highlighted in the main area of that window

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

flint python
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If you have folders on your desktop and you click on one once to highlight it, it will change to "Open"

runic elbow
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Ok.

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... Now if only my dad told me what the image burning program was called.

flint python
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I use Win32DiskImager

runic elbow
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Oh cool.

flint python
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The popular one now I believe is called Etcher

runic elbow
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That's the exact thing I found.

flint python
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that's what I've seen in the newer Adafruit tutorials

runic elbow
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Win32diskimager is what I found my dad uses.

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It's probably what was used to put Raspbian on an SD card.

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How do I use this? Burning images is a little new to me.

flint python
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You will insert the SD card you want to burn the image on into the computer, and take notice of what drive letter it assumes

runic elbow
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Does it also do CDs?

flint python
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No, if you just want to burn a CD from an iso you should be able to right click on the file name and it should give you an option to burn to disk

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

flint python
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yeah, "Burn disk image"

runic elbow
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So I didn't even need this computer? I couod have used my personal one?

flint python
#

I'm not sure what exactly you were trying to do but possibly?

runic elbow
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I want to make a ReactOS live CD.

flint python
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As long as your other computer has a CD burner

runic elbow
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Mine doesn't have any CD burning software.

flint python
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Windows 10 has it built in, which is nice

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makes it super easy

runic elbow
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Ok.

#

So how do I burn React OS onto the disc?

flint python
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just right click on the file, and select "Burn disk image"

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then a new window will pop up and walk you through it

runic elbow
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Does it need to be on he disc?

flint python
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what do you mean?

runic elbow
#

Does the ISO need to be on the disc to burn it on?

flint python
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No, an ISO is just an image of a disk that is saved to a file, so you just tell Windows to take that file and turn it back into a physical disk

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You'll just have to put in a blank CD into the CD burner drive

runic elbow
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So I can burn it onto the CD while the ISO is on the desktop?

flint python
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Yep

runic elbow
#

Oh cool. So just right click it and tell it to burn on the disc?

flint python
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Yep

runic elbow
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Ok, off it goes!

#

This is an interesting experience.

#

Thanks for your help.

flint python
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No problem

#

We all started learning somewhere ha

runic elbow
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Yep.

#

I keep gett paranoid I'm burning the wrong disc.

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Getting*

flint python
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I don't think windows would let you burn to a disk that already had something on it

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it isn't as trusting of the user as *nix is

runic elbow
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Doesn't seem like it.

#

I always get paranoid when doing stuff with externa storage. I should probably stop checking it. I checked five times.

#

Ok, halfway there.

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Can't wait to see if React OS will even work on the Windows XP machine I have. Which is now a Windows ME machine.

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Because apparently Windows XP installer can't format more then one hard disk.

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Yay, it's done!

flint python
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\o/

runic elbow
#

Now to see how much it bluescreens trying to run on my old PC.

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It's probably goig to bluescreen a lot.

#

It completely ignored the disc.

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Oh, I forgot to put the disc in.

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It booted to Windows ME.

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I think it's working.

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It is!

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Nevermind.

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Wait, there's still disc activity.

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WHOO! It worked!

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It actually boots!

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It's trying, at least.

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It worked!

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React OS works!

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Now I'm gonna bluescreen it.

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Wait, I can easily clone my Windows ME disk with this.

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Well, MS DOS galaga works. Just not good.

runic elbow
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I tried to change the resolution of the scren and it bluescreened.

abstract violet
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the quest continues!

runic elbow
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Yep.

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My next goal is to install it onto hard drive.

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But I have no blank ones.

#

I have an idea, but I don't know how to do it. Or if it's possible.

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Eh, I'll try it later.

runic elbow
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I have two drives in the machine I'm working on, and the live CD active. How can I put all the data from one drive, onto another without putting anything on the desktop?

gray aspen
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@elfin wave What's reshade?

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@flint python Hah, I forgot about Windows in built ability to burn discs, I stopped trusting that when it was introduced in windows xp, I guess it's not so bad these days

elfin wave
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It's a way to tweak certain things for better performance

gray aspen
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Is it ? Looks like it makes things colourful mainly

runic elbow
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It's happening! I'm installing React OS on a hard drive.

runic elbow
#

It worked, but it failed to get the audio controller and ethernet drivers.

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No operating system on this computer so far has been able to find the drivers.

chilly steeple
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Who else is on a pi?

runic elbow
#

Does anyone know ehre I can get some Windows XP ethernet drivers?

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I need one for my React OS machine.

fair summit
#

@runic elbow Totally depends on the chipset for the drivers. If it's on the motherboard, look in the motherboard manufacturer's support area. What kind of machine?

runic elbow
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I'm about to give up on this machine. It found literally EVERY driver except the ethernet and sound ones.

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It even found the phone modem. There isn't even a phone modem on this machine.

indigo jetty
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What motherboard is it @runic elbow ?

runic elbow
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Let me check.

indigo jetty
#

Did you try Ubuntu on it?

runic elbow
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I have no storage that can store Ubuntu.

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At most I have 650 megabytes.

indigo jetty
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Oh right

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It's very likely you'd be able to pick up a free PC somewhere that would be more powerful than this one. I'm not familiar with US websites, but maybe somewhere like Craigslist?

runic elbow
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I don't online shop.

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The Raspberry Pi was an exception.

indigo jetty
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It's not really a shop, it's ads where people sell stuff second hand

runic elbow
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Oh, ok.

indigo jetty
#

Like it would be very common for people to nearly give away stuff that's old

runic elbow
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Yep. That's how I got my Windows 98 machine.

indigo jetty
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Like if you only have 650mb of storage that's maybe 15-20 years old

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I got a laptop on 2005 that had 100gb of storage

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So I'm basing it off that

runic elbow
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I meant I don't have any CDs or DVDs that are bigger then 650 megs.

indigo jetty
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Ah ok

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Makes way more sense 😂

runic elbow
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Yep.

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The machine is old, but it Isn't that old.

indigo jetty
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There is a version Ubuntu called lubuntu

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That seems to only be around 100mb

runic elbow
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My god, about 400 megs less then React OS.

indigo jetty
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Im. In work so I just started the download and stopped to see how big it is but I think it was 97mb

next grotto
runic elbow
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Interesting.

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I might make a CD for this OS for another poject.

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Project*

next grotto
runic elbow
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Thank you.

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Ok, I have the brand of the motherboard.

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It's Asus.

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Still, Lubuntu is freaking tiny.

indigo jetty
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We would need a model number @runic elbow

runic elbow
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Ok.

indigo jetty
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It's normally written beside the ram

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Could be on a sticker or printed on the pcb

runic elbow
#

I see a sticker that is a barcode.

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I don't see any other number codes, so I'm goin to assume the numbers on the barcode are it.

indigo jetty
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It might be displayed on the bios screen either

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Or when the computer is booting up

runic elbow
#

That might be hard to catch. The BIOS comes and goes pretty quick.

indigo jetty
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Normally the pause button on the keyboard stops it

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(above the arrows)

runic elbow
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Ok.

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One second, I'm going to write down the numbers on the barcode.

indigo jetty
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No worries

runic elbow
#

Ok, got the code. Later I'll try putting it in the Asus website.

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No results.

#

Does Asus have a page for drivers?

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It does not appear to have one.

#

Welp, I guess that's the end of this project. Nothing will ever be able to install the drivers.

#

I found my saving point! Intel.

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They have drivers for everything.

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Even Windows XP ethernet drivers. Just what I need.

#

I should maybe slow down.

fair summit
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@runic elbow Intel has drivers for their own chipsets. But it could be someone else's. Is XP still running on this machine? You can download a simple program for XP or 98 that tells you all about the machine hardware: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency.
		
		The CPU-Z‘s detection engine is now available for customized use through the CPUID System Information Development Kit, a professional SDK built for the Microsoft Windows & Android.
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And what is the model number / code for the Asus motherboard

runic elbow
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No, I am running React OS.

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Hold on, let me copy paste the code.

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Msa0311109-02309-m8l78h-ao1

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That was the only code sticker on the board.

fair summit
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Hmm. No part of that code is an Asus mothboard model number. Hit F2 or F12 or DEL when the machine is rebooting. That will get you into the BIOS, and you probably find the model number in the BIOS settings.

runic elbow
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Ok, I'll get he machine hooked up.

indigo jetty
#

How did you find the drivers on intel page @runic elbow ?

fair summit
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Oh, wait maybe M8L78H.

runic elbow
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The number isn't in the BIOS.

fair summit
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Note the model number between the white card slots in the upper left

runic elbow
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That looks VERY close. Except mne only has two RAM slots.

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Yep, I see the white card.

fair summit
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Is there writing between the white slots? says "P4S533-MX" on the picture (click the picture to see it larger)

runic elbow
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Let me check.

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It doesn't.

fair summit
#

Another giveaway is the SiS chip in the middle lower left.

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Do you have an SiS chip in that general location?

runic elbow
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Yes.

fair summit
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It's an SiS Ethernet chipset, not Intel or other, so you need a driver for that.

runic elbow
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Ok.

fair summit
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Ok, good luck!

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Other links on that page are the manual, etc.

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in the bar across the middle top

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You may have an OEM version of the motherboard, so it wouldn't have prominent branding for Asus.

runic elbow
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I don't see any download options.

#

Wait, I got it.

#

For ethernet, do I get the LAN driver?

fair summit
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Yes.

runic elbow
#

Okidokie.

#

I'm gonna format my CD and put the driver file on that.

#

This is gonna take a bit.

#

I probably should have more then just one rewritable.

#

My DVD drive doesn't detect the CD.

#

Come on, this CD was opened just two days ago, it can't be broken already.

#

Didn't take long before an error that ruins everything came along.

fair summit
#

ReactOS supposedly has USB flash drive support. If you get tired of it try Puppy Linux instead, which runs on old/small machines.

runic elbow
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I don't have any USB flash devices.

fair summit
#

oh well

runic elbow
#

My day has went from good to, a slightly less good day.

#

Oh well.

#

Ooh, it actually read the disc.

#

I can't reformat it to its original size. Even though it's a rewritable.

#

It's giving me the option to erase the disc. Is this the option that will remove everything off the disc?

fair summit
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Not sure. I haven't used CDRW's for a while. TIme to Google, I think.

runic elbow
#

Yep.

#

Welp, this has been quite the experience.

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Made more difficult by my lack on knowledge as to what I'm doing.

#

It would be easier to google if my mouse would start cooperating.

fair summit
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Erasing it will remove everythin.g You can't reformat it because that would erase everything as well. It erases in large blocks, so easiest just to erase and start from there.

runic elbow
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OK.

#

OK, this is the EXACT reason I hate wireless Mice. It just keeps stopping.

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I need a new battery.

spice moss
polar wraith
#

LOL. I just read the Biohacking Summit blog post. They talk about sleep, exercise, nutrition, etc. Biohacking to me is more like building electronics to implant and experimenting at home with things like gene expression and DNA engineering through CRISPR/Cas9....

elfin wave
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sleep/exercise/nutrition are working within our bodies' existing capacities

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"hacking" to me means changing or adding something

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ie implanting magnets and circuitry and stuff

#

I don't want soylent, I want to be a cyborg

crude trench
#

@runic elbow -- smartest thing I ever did was buy a wired mouse. Was recharging the batteries in the wireless constantly.

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Went to rechargeable because I was throwing out 2 batteries a month

indigo jetty
#

@crude trench wireless mouses have gotten way more efficient over the last while, I have a fairly standard Microsoft set and the batteries last months. I use rechargeable batteries too

abstract violet
polar wraith
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Thanks, @abstract violet - saw that in my news feed this morning!

runic elbow
#

Oh my.

sturdy oyster
#

hey, does anyone have an SVG (or decent b/w image), of the Boxy character/logo from Adabox004? I figure with the new box shipping soon, I should probably finish my 004 project, and it sure would save me some time.

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oops...meant Boomy character

stuck moth
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maybe @thin rose does @sturdy oyster

thin rose
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hey @sturdy oyster I have the artwork for the pin and the 3d print i can send. both differ in sizes, how are you planning to use it?

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I was working on 2d print template for the box but never quite finished it, requires a bit of formatting

sturdy oyster
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Thanks @thin rose I've built the basic wooden "box" part, and I was going to cnc carve the Boomy face onto the front. of the box with the two speakers I have for eyes.

thin rose
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the white "idea" box that ships with it

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@sturdy oyster nice! a wooden box sounds classy. ok, gimme me a sec to upload the SVG to the boomy learn guide.

sturdy oyster
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You're the best @thin rose thanks a ton

thin rose
sturdy oyster
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sure thing @thin rose hoping to get to it by the weekend. I'll post a pic once it's done.

stuck moth
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awesome! I look forward to it @sturdy oyster. Thanks @thin rose

runic elbow
#

Oh, I almost forgot to say, thanks for helping me find the drivers, Dan.

fair summit
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@runic elbow ok, so it worked(?). Great! You're welcome.

spice moss
runic elbow
#

Trouble strikes again. React OS can't open the CD I put the drivers on.

elfin wave
#

My Anova sous vide cooker is so wonderful

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I can't cook steak to save my life but it's perfectly medium rare. Just finished in butter and garlic in a hot pan.

indigo jetty
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I was thinking of trying to make one with a slow cooker and an Arduino

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One of those, must get around to it at some stage projects 😂

elfin wave
#

I'm sure it's fairly doable. Just have to make sure you have the right algorithm for when to stop heating.

runic elbow
#

Turns out React OS doesn't supprt the ethernet driver for the motherboard I'm working with.

#

Because WOW16 applictions aren't supported by NTVDM at the moment.

bold turtle
polar wraith
#

@sigafroos MSL is much more accurate because otherwise you'd have to have a topology map. And MSL is traditionally what pilots use.

#

@elfin wave are you going to do dual deployment with yours?

elfin wave
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oh, the MPL is calibrated down to 50 kPa but operational down to 20

#

what do you mean?

polar wraith
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@elfin wave Dual deployment is for high power rockets that go up a long way. At the top of flight (apogee) the first charge separates a two sections and a drogue chute comes out. When the rocket falls to about 600 AGL another charge fires and deploys a large main chute (thus the need for an altimeter).

elfin wave
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ah, that's what I thought. I'm doing a high altitude balloon, which is filled with hydrogen and let go

#

there will be a chute but I haven't gotten that far yet in my plans

polar wraith
#

Nice! Remember that commercial GPS devices are altitude limited. They won't work above a certain altitude (I think 27,000 feet) so they can't be used in missiles.

elfin wave
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mine is just to see how high it goes! (well, GPS should give me that too, but I've seen conflicting things on accuracy above certain heights)

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yeah

polar wraith
#

You can get GPS sensors that work up to, well, orbit, but they're expensive and require paperwork.

elfin wave
#

I read something somewhere (the most reliable source!) that some GPS modules still operate as long as they meet certain requirements, either transmission speed, accuracy, etc. but I'm not planning on it working

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as long as it starts to work again on the way down so I can recover the payload

polar wraith
#

Totally. There's also radio direction finding. IIRC there's a UK web site dedicated to high altitude ballooning and they have great information.

hollow oasis
#

I can't read music though I want to make some melodies using the arduino tone() function. Is there a repo for tunes that I can reference?

swift hatch
polar wraith
#

That's really cool, @swift hatch !!

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@hollow oasis I'm not familiar with any but I'm sure they exist. I've never messed around with audio....

elfin wave
#

@polar wraith yeah, UKHAS is awesome. but they can't use APRS in balloons in the UK so that isn't documented there, and apparently nobody in the US is good with putting things on the internet

#

I'm definitely planning to have a few libraries and adafruit guides eventually

#

I'm also thinking that LoRa probably would have been fine and would have saved a lot of time and money but hey, sunk cost fallacy 😃

polar wraith
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@elfin wave That's surprising, but yes, I didn't find any good references.

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And I'm thinking of adding LoRa to the system so it can broadcast its location. Iridium is too heavy (and expensive).

elfin wave
#

possibly ironically, the only manufacturer of 144.390 MHz (US APRS) transmitters that I could find was based in the UK, and sold through uputronics, which is run by someone active in the UKHAS community

#

last my package tracking app alerted me it had landed in JFK, at least

polar wraith
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NICE!!! Let me know how that works out, please.

elfin wave
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oh yeah, I'm gonna become a regular on show and tell

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I was thinking how it was weird that the project was almost done, and then I realized... oh yeah, I have to turn a radio module into something that can broadcast GPS coordinates using a specific protocol

polar wraith
#

Heh, yes, that's pretty important! How many cameras are you going to use?

elfin wave
#

I think just one

#

today at lunch I'd like to get some test code working with the gps (unfortunately a ublox, not adafruit, and honestly I'm feeling the pain a bit), so that I can use the SD interface to write to a file specified by the power on timestamp

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and then take pictures

polar wraith
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Good plan! I need to find and download the Python libraries for these boards. If they exist. 😃

elfin wave
polar wraith
#

That looks cool @elfin wave - I'll have to read it after work!

elfin wave
#

made it to #4 in pubg... didn't fire a single shot

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also no clue where the person who shot me was. I was mostly hopping tree to tree and hoping nobody would notice

indigo jetty
#

SneakySigafoos

elfin wave
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I saw one person, and as I prepared to engage I saw them explode into a pile of red mist. so.

polar wraith
#

@thin rose and @pedro Thinking of y'all. Keep your heads down.... And let us know if you need anything.

stuck moth
#

@elfin wave so tempted 😃 got a release candidate and bundle to release now though

elfin wave
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Yeahhh I figured it was working hours for you so I didn't want to tempt.

#

It's so much less fun solo with my play style. At least we got to, like, hang out.

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I found an amazingly protected tree though.

thin rose
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@polar wraith thank you for having us in your thoughts, much appreciated! 🙏 we're stocked up on essentials and keeping a close eye on the reports. most likely will setup shutters tomorrow

polar wraith
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@thin rose Sounds good. It looks like it's going to go right up the East shore and then head straight for SC/NC....

stuck moth
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@elfin wave thanks for sparing me 😃

dire axle
#

@spice moss Thanks for passing along the link to the ML in 2K. Looking forward to watching 😃

plush musk
#

Yeah, stay safe @thin rose. Where are you guys located? My sister is in Palm Beach Gardens and is flying up here (Chicago) on Friday with her twin toddlers. I was trying to figure out what flight they were on and saw that almost all (15 of 16) the flights are sold out. Crazy.

📎 FLLtoMDW.png
thorny niche
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@stuck moth I'm looking forward to going to the Seattle mini-makerfaire...looking forward to knowing about meet ups/chats..😀

polar wraith
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@thorny niche It's going to be great to put faces with all the names!

thorny niche
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@polar wraith I look forward to meeting you.

polar wraith
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I've met with Scott and TonyD already. I'll probably get to meet Adam soon. It will be fantastic to meet up with others, too!

indigo jetty
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If anyone finds themselves in Ireland let me know 😂

polar wraith
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@indigo jetty I wish I would find myself in Ireland!

spice moss
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have you guys open laptop to clean it?

fair summit
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@spice moss Oh, sure. It's usually not dirty inside EXCEPT that there's often a bunch of fuzz at the grille next to the fan. I have removed 3cm of fuzz and lint (almost like felt). Removing it made the laptop run much cooler.

Sometimes that's easily accessible through a hatch, sometimes you have to take the bottom off or take the keyboard off. However, there are videos on YouTube about dissassembling almost any laptop. Dell (and prob other manufacturers) also have detailed service manuals.

spice moss
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those service manual usually have guide to remve small part of it

indigo jetty
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I had to reapply thermal paste to the heat sink of a laptop before

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Was maybe 5 years or so old

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(the laptop, not me 😂)

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I opened and cleaned out the fuzz @fair summit talks about, but it was still running way too warm so tried replacing the thermal paste and it worked much better

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Some day @polar wraith !

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I want to visit West coast US at some stage too!

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(although I was in LA when I was about 10)

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We very nearly went to san fransico 3 or 4 years ago but it was more expensive to go there for one week than Cuba for 2 weeks all inclusive

polar wraith
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@indigo jetty I have a high-end Razer laptop (not for gaming, though, for software development) and it has an NVIDIA 1060 graphics card. When the laptop starts to heat up it sounds like a jet about to take off!

indigo jetty
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Haha, my mac is pretty quiet, but it doesn't have a 1060!

spice moss
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Blade with Jet-Engines

hearty fiber
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I preferred taking my dell laptop apart, most the screws were the same. unlike the hp where almost every one was different. Mine also used foam pads and not thermal paste

thin rose
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@plush musk Glad she got out! I heard lots of flights were cancled. We're out in Royal Palm Beach, fairly inland. Currently finishing setting up our shutters upstairs.

spice moss
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@thin rose I get news that Florida NHL team went to evac

thin rose
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@spice moss yeah, sounds like last work day for every body will be later today, early friday.

bold turtle
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Oh, hey, I've actually ben there-ish, @thin rose

thin rose
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@bold turtle yea it's about a 30-40min drive away from the beaches, about 13miles

spice moss
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Soon you guys have 3D Printed flood wall in place

bold turtle
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@thin rose the company I worked for when I lived in MIA had a thing at Madison Green. The IT guy (me) got to come along for a free lunch 😉

thin rose
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@bold turtle oh nice! our house is actually apart of a village in madison green 😄

bold turtle
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HAH

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hums "It's a small world"

indigo jetty
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I know we talked about on #general-chat before, but this is disappointing

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Gender break down of my YouTube views for the last 90 days

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I mentioned the last time too another YouTuber showed his stats and it was the same

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I'm not surprised it's lower, but I'm am still surprised by how much lower it is

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(just from the difference in the workplace and college for technology rolls)

abstract violet
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"e. In this work, we design a completely inaudible attack,
DolphinAttack, that modulates voice commands on ultrasonic
carriers (e.g., f > 20 kHz) to achieve inaudibility. By leveraging
the nonlinearity of the microphone circuits, the modulated lowfrequency
audio commands can be successfully demodulated, recovered,
and more importantly interpreted by the speech recognition
systems"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15191640

ColanR
DolphinAttack: Inaudible Voice Commands [pdf]
Hacker News ·
spice moss
ocean ingot
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@indigo jetty I was talking to someone yesterday and they were saying how they don't know of any girls currently studying electrical or computer engineering (leaving me to quietly be like I'm EE) but it is really true. A lot of technology fields are really lacking girls, and to that point, a lot of girls in technical fields don't do anything else technical beyond the work/school day

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All the time, even in environments that are strictly engineers, it's always assumed that I am biomedical because I'm a girl or I'm mechanical because it's incredibly popular

abstract violet
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Looking forward to a startrek future!

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@ocean ingot im certain that a big factor is the media and how they portray women

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im an early supporter of feminist frequency, not sure if you've heard of anita

ocean ingot
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If we can get to a Star Trek future that would be fantastic

abstract violet
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the next startrek captain is a lady!

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also B'elanna torres is one of my favourite engineers in the show

abstract violet
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@stuck moth the guy from above used KiCAD!

stuck moth
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woo!

elfin wave
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ughhh I bought a ublox neo6m gps module as an amazon gold box and am having so much trouble getting it to work. looking at their forums I might not even have a legit ublox and may have been sold a knockoff.

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this is what I get for not going with the ultimate gps in the first place

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(and of course it's out of stock on adafruit now)

abstract violet
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what's not working @elfin wave

elfin wave
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the GPS 😄

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I'll have to connect it to my ftdi friend when I get home

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because I did before and got valid NMEA sentences, but the NeoGPS library can't connect to serial

abstract violet
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have you tried TinyGPS?

elfin wave
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I know I have but I didn't necessarily know what I was doing at the time

abstract violet
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does the unit have a usb interface?

elfin wave
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the gps, no, but I'm using an uno if you meant the microcontroller

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wha... the tinygps example isn't printing any data, and isn't giving me the "no data" error. which I thought were the two options.

abstract violet
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hmm

elfin wave
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I had the wrong gps baud

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ignore me

abstract violet
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ah 😅

elfin wave
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thank you for the help, though. I was mostly venting (else this would be in #help-with-projects ) but for some reason hadn't thought to go back to tinygps

abstract violet
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I had a similar issue with NeoGPS library with a Neo7m? i think.. that one had a usb interface to debug with ucenter..

elfin wave
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neogps seems really great if you want interrupts, configurability, to make it as tiny as possible, etc

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I'm going to be polling like once a sec. tinygps should be good enough.

abstract violet
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what are you building?

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I had a openlog unit lying around and i hooked my gps unit up with it.. made for a really portable sd-card logger -- eventually want to make it into something i can run whilst taking photos for geotagging

elfin wave
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nice!

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a high altitude balloon, so this will relay coordinates down to me and also log things so I can do fancy dataviz later

spice moss
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@polar wraith how is your circuitpython rockets coming along?

polar wraith
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@spice moss So so. I'm running out of memory on the board I'm using, so I think I'll have to switch platforms. That means I'll have to redesign the electronics bay on the rocket. 😃

stuck moth
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or wait for the M4 @polar wraith

polar wraith
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@stuck moth That is certainly an option. If I were to design my own M4 board what hardware requirements would I need to meet to put CircuitPython on it?

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Or is it better to just wait? 😃

stuck moth
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designing your own would only help if you could get the chips

polar wraith
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LOL You're absolutely right

stuck moth
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we'll likely release ours once we have chips

polar wraith
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And yours is dramatically more likely to, you know, work.

stuck moth
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you could use a different M4 though

polar wraith
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True. I dunno. That would be a lot of learning and mistakes. It's probably more reasonable to do development and testing on, say, a RPi3 and then port to the M4 board when it's released for the flight articles.

stuck moth
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having our APIs on RPi3 would be awesome!

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😉

polar wraith
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Not ALL of them... 😃

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All I need is GPS, BMO055, and BMP280 libraries...

spice moss
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Rosie in a rocket hmmm

polar wraith
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Hmm, a thought. It would be cool if Adafruit had pre-orders for hot items, like the M4 boards....

elfin wave
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My How To Be A Digital Revolutionary bracelet arrived today. I like it! But my dang AMAB wrist is big enough for it to not close easily/fully. I might need to hack the band to be bigger.

runic elbow
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Apparently you can plug it into an oscciliscope, and depending on the settings, it will display exactly this.

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I hope I spelled oscciliscope correctly.

polar wraith
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Grrrrr. Running into library problems with the rocket flight computer. Latest: BNO055 throws OSerror 19 during register write in initialization. 😦

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(Yes, I opened an issue on GitHub.)

runic elbow
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The virus screwed up my Windows. Now it thinks it's booting off a Windows Vista CD. When there isn't even anything in the drive.

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Stupid imgburner screwed everything up.

spice moss
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was your windows machine vista?

runic elbow
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No, it was Windows 7.

spice moss
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so you dont have win7 disc?

runic elbow
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I don't hink my dad kept the disc.

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Thinj*

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Think*

spice moss
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I know that there is Win10 Iso what could help

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and media creation tool what can make you a bootable usb-stick

runic elbow
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I'm not downloading anything from the internet unless I know for sure it's OK.

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Someone suggesting Imgburner is exactly how I got myself in this issue.

spice moss
runic elbow
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I might check that out later.

spice moss
spice moss
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@indigo jetty have you known Ruuvitag?

indigo jetty
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no I hadnt, just looking at it now

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lookds pretty cool

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I think i did see this before actuall

spice moss
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https://lab.ruuvi.com/

RuuviLab
RuuviLab - Tutorials

Take a look around. These tutorials will take your RuuviTag sensor beacon to the whole new level. By following these easy tutorials your devices can transform to almost anything!

polar wraith
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@spice moss You need at least three circuits (usually more): 9DOF IMU to generate quaternions to detect apogee; pressure altimeter to detect a set height above the ground; and firing circuits for setting off the explosive decoupling charges. It's also a good idea to have a data logger, temperature sensor, camera, GPS, and a radio transmitter.

spice moss
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altimeter

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oh yeah you had that there

polar wraith
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I also want NeoPixels visible from outside so you can tell the status of the rocket by looking at it - particularly after arming the explosives.

spice moss
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think having light pipe from neopixels to outside

polar wraith
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Thought of that. I can also do a transparent panel on the fuselage so the NeoPixels shine through.

elfin wave
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I'm already getting issues with running out of global var space on my Uno. gonna need to actually code things properly, I think 😃

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I haven't even added the camera library yet

indigo jetty
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@elfin wave just upgrade to something with more memory, its the App developer way 😛

elfin wave
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I mean that was my first thought

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but so far I've been tossing libraries on without a care, and instantiating variables wherever

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it happened when I used the tinygps++ one

indigo jetty
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yeah your probably right, but there is just so much more memory in basically everything else 😃

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M0 or esp8266 has 3 or 4 times as much

elfin wave
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does the metro m0 have more?

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oh jeez

indigo jetty
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I think its something like 16k versus 50k for uno vs M0

elfin wave
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I could be using a feather for this??

indigo jetty
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if im not mistaken

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fly little birdie, use your feather 😄

elfin wave
indigo jetty
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Uno has 2K of Sram and 32 of Flash

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MKRZero (which i think is the same chip as the M0 metro/feather) has 32KB of Sram and 256Kb of flash

elfin wave
indigo jetty
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ill be honest, im not sure which one is the most important, either way its big difference

spice moss
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@polar wraith for me I do it with drones and landing pads

sonic forge
polar wraith
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Nice, @sonic forge ! Of course, the spacecraft of the month is Cassini....

sonic forge
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Well, it's the 40 year anniversary of the Voyager launch, and the first of our interstellar spacecraft.

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But yeah, props to Cassini too 😃

polar wraith
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Fair point!

spice moss
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@sonic forge captain kirk send message to voyager

abstract violet
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https://atap.google.com/soli

Project Soli

Project Soli is developing a new interaction sensor using radar technology. The sensor can track sub-millimeter motions at high speed and accuracy. It fits onto a chip, can be produced at scale and built into small devices and everyday objects.

elfin wave
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I'm waiting for Juice

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hopes everybody has read 17776

abstract violet
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what kinda juice @elfin wave

elfin wave
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no matter what you think that is, it's not that 😃

gray pilot
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I was just sitting alone at my desk in my workshop starring at my computer contemplating some work on a project when I realized I needed some help.

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Enter Discord

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Now I'm with 257 people.

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How cool is that.

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@stuck moth Your a genius.

indigo jetty
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but can we help is the important part 😛

gray pilot
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Never failed me yet.

indigo jetty
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@elfin wave that is so looooooonnnnggg

elfin wave
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that's true

stuck moth
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@gray pilot it wasn't really my idea. I just made it happen

indigo jetty
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I'm working from home and im still working 😦

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its nearly 8 pm

gray pilot
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@stuck moth and modest too.

indigo jetty
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(im compiling)

stuck moth
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😉

indigo jetty
gray pilot
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@indigo jetty ain't it the truth... 😃

elfin wave
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my friend/coworker said that grunt, bower, etc were created because javascript devs missed that excuse

indigo jetty
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haha

gray pilot
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So, has anybody gotten two Microbits to communicate using its built in radio signal??

indigo jetty
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I've never even touched a microbit

gray pilot
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ahhh good point.

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Their very cool little devices

indigo jetty
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We have a thick client app in work and it takes 5 minutes to launch

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it makes a nightmare to make small changes to it

elfin wave
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jeeeeez

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it was bad enough when the thing I was working on took like 30 seconds

gray pilot
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5 minutes to launch??? Memory initing or what?

indigo jetty
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its kind of legacy now

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its just a hog

spice moss
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memory hog?

gray pilot
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ouch, legacy is not a word in my vocabulary.

elfin wave
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hahaha we have code from 10 years ago

spice moss
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even PCL is legacy now

elfin wave
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with comments like "once we upgrade to php 4 we can..."

gray pilot
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hahaha I have code from 40 years ago.

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// implement when needed

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// fix code yesterday

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// version -1.0

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love those comments

elfin wave
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nice

spice moss
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you know #if and #else

gray pilot
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oops

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yup, if (x = 0)

ancient rivet
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uses two micobits that talk to each other

gray pilot
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See what I mean guy's. Ask and you shall receive. Thank you very much @ancient rivet

sturdy oyster
#

Grrrrrrrr...I hate logic errors. Just spent a good half hour trying to figure out why the functions in my motor class was not working. stepped through every stage and could not understand why the variables were weird values. Turns out, when I was moving the variables from public to private in the class, I moved them up two lines too far and declared them as globals rather than class variables. On the bright side, it works now, but AAAAAAARRGGGGG. Just had to get that off my chest.

gray pilot
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GLOBAAAAAAAALS. Fire 1, Fire 2, Fire 3.... Targets destroyed Sir.

elfin wave
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Okay so uhhh somebody talk me out of buying Destiny 2 before I get home

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Thanks

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(I like PUBG but I want to shoot lots of things not hide in a bathroom and be scared)

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Oh it isn't out on PC yet, that was easy

stuck moth
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😃 I did get a PC code with my new graphics card

indigo jetty
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I should clean up my office a bit but im feeling very lazy

elfin wave
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I realized I had a copy of Halo 4 I got at a flea market that I had never played

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And I really wanted a Bungie-type game. I know Halo 4 is 343 and not Bungie but it's the same sort of thing.

bold turtle
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@elfin wave yu mean thats not a reason to install Aleph One?

elfin wave
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Haha is "Bungie" a highlight word for you?

bold turtle
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No, just good timing

sturdy hawk
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Build at work takes 15 min to build... If only we had swords!