general-chat

[delicate stream]

Discord, I didn't touch stickers XD

Discord is under the influence

I now have a n00d.... but not sure what to do with it XD

[glad I didn't order a bunch and decided to just play with the freebie, lol]

[obtuse tapir]

@delicate stream How familiar are you with Bluefruit?

[delicate stream]

Not really familiar at all, I just got one recently but haven't played with it much

[obtuse tapir]

Do you know anyone in here who is a rockstar with it? I'd like to hire someone for a few hours to help on this project but I'd like them to be a rockstar

@delicate stream

[delicate stream]

There probably are a few people, but if you're looking to pay for work, I'd recommend posting on the Adafruit Jobs board

[obtuse tapir]

@delicate stream here in discord? or elsewhere?

[delicate stream]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

Big benefit is that everyone gets vetted to post

[obtuse tapir]

ty

[delicate stream]

No problem :D

Thinking of making a n00d bracelet with a joule thief, but not sure it would survive as the "band"...

[late fulcrum]

I wonder if a joule thief could provide enough power

[delicate stream]

I tested in parallel with a white LED, it worked :D

Just not sure how well it would handle the pull on your wrist of the power pack

[late fulcrum]

When I had a similar problem of powering a bunch of LEDs by my hand, I just ran thin wires down my sleeve. However, that approach doesn't work for all situations.

[delicate stream]

Dang that's a good cosplay

[wooden schooner]

What keeps the solder from falling off?

[delicate stream]

I was thinking literally just have a little power pack and the n00d goes around your wrist

[wooden schooner]

And yes that costume is amazing

[late fulcrum]

I have copper tape on the edge of the acrylic disc to do triple duty as an attachment point, shield direct light from the LEDs, and serve as the power wiring to the LED strings

[delicate stream]

I also got an AdaBot lunchbox but it's so pretty I don't want to carry it and damage it XD

[late fulcrum]

And thanks for the compliments, I had fun making it. Of course, the cat thought I made it for her

[wooden schooner]

Didn't you?

look at that jet-black hook tail

Looks like a pirate baby scorched her lil tail

[late fulcrum]

She loved to roll around on the fabric after I cut it out

[edgy maple]

It's her fabric now !

Marked

[edgy maple]

pretty cat

[wanton thistle]

Cats gonna cat. Marking it as their own lol

[delicate stream]

Do y'all think this is big enough to solder something like a Pico? https://www.adafruit.com/product/4948

Pico is ~50mm, this is 30x30mm

[late fulcrum]

I think it's big enough, but I'm not sure it's hot enough, it's a preheater, not a soldering plate

[delicate stream]

Guess it depends on the solder I use -- they show it being used to actually solder little boards in the videos

[late fulcrum]

Ah, I didn't check the videos, just skimmed the description. That could be a handy thing, as it probably provides more even heating than a $20 hot plate (unless you stack on an aluminum plate or somesuch as a heat spreader)

[delicate stream]

Thinking about getting one to solder; I want to make boards that are Pico/Feather sized, but this seems a lot easier than using a hot air station

[tardy badger]

It’s fun watching Ladyada cook boards on them

It’s so smöl

Especially compared to my 200x200mm hot plate

[delicate stream]

How does your big hot plate work out? I had originally gotten a toaster oven with the plans of making it a reflow oven...

[wanton thistle]

I made my own with a cartridge heater and a block of a aluminum. I have to make it bigger and make a a nicer package. But mine might be 2"x2"

https://www.mcmaster.com/cartridge-heaters/insertion-heaters-for-plates-molds-and-dies-7/

basically these

Then pair it with a PID controller + thermocouple

(and display)

could be a neat little project

😠 its so hard to type with a cut on my index finger. Virtually impossible.

[tardy badger]

It cooks it for sure, I only use low temp solder, though I’ve soldered stuff that melts at 250°C before

[delicate stream]

Hmmm… is that what you use to make your boards you sell?

I want to get the most bang for my buck, and being able to make bigger boards would be nice

[tardy badger]

Generally yes

I can cook some pretty big boards

[delicate stream]

Got a link?

You use lead free solder, right?

[tardy badger]

Soiiw 110V 850W LED Microcomputer Electric Hot Plate Preheat Soldering Preheating Station Welder Hot Plate Rework Heater Lab 200X200mm Plate https://a.co/d/8CQBAAN

Oui, lead free

It’s just a generic hot plate

[delicate stream]

Ohhh, that’s cheaper AND much larger… tho both might be nice so I can do tiny stuff at my desk, lol

[tardy badger]

It’s one of those hot plates though that scream “don’t leave me alone” so I don’t 🫣

I’ve got it plugged into a workshop grade plug strip lol

But it works for me. It’s worth doing a PID tune on the element

I’ve also seen people replace the controller with a better one that matches profiles as best as possible

[delicate stream]

Lol, yeah… I don’t like leaving things that are hundreds of watts alone on

[tardy badger]

I haven’t directly measured it but I don’t believe it actually pulls 850W.

[delicate stream]

Ehh, still… a lot

[frigid tiger]

are u talking about using 3d printer beds for soldering

[delicate stream]

Nope, hot plates

[wanton thistle]

Yea, I was gonna say, theres MUCH better PID controllers.
https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/search/search?fctype=adc.falcon.search.SearchFormCtrl&cmd=Search&searchquery=PID+controller&categoryId=0&TxnNumber=-1&searchqty=50#start=0

Ive used these. Ive also seen OMRON brand, which are just so pretty 😄

[delicate stream]

The fact that the draw isn't super low makes me realize they don't really work for testing the output of battery USB boards

[late fulcrum]

Good illustration. I suppose a more accurate method would be separately powered.

[delicate stream]

Mhmm

It would account for the great difference I saw with the one LiPo to 5v board I had -- claimed efficiency was over 80%, but what I could get out of a cell was like 67% according to the USB meter

Out of an 1800mAh capacity

[late fulcrum]

I suppose it depends on the draw rate. If you're only drawing 10mA and the meter is using up another 10mA, that's going to cut the measured efficiency in half. If you're drawing 1000mA and the meter is using up another 10mA, that's a 1% difference.

[delicate stream]

So like... the one battery I have is a 1500mAh, which charging averaged 1505.2mAh, and my loads on average got 931.6mAh out of it

[acoustic pawn]

Relating to hot plates, I think a PCB based one might be the way to go. The hot plate board is expendable while the controller attaches on. A controller that uses a USB-C PD input would be great. Both GreatScott! and Carl Bugeja have done videos on PCB hotplates (and so have others probably)

[delicate stream]

I have considered making a PCB one... I liked the one GreatScott! did

[delicate stream]

"I need to measure a resistor's value"
sets meter to DC, 20V range
puts probes to resistor
waits and wonders why it says zero
.... oh

[ebon dew]

Have to take into account the power draw of the meters themselves which actually seems to be accurate across them all at 140ma per tester. Weird how some are reporting .01v off. Not the most precise thing in the world but doesn't look bad either. If you need more precision you should be using a scope anyway.

About the same precision as a multimeter really so it's not too shabby. I wouldn't use something like that vs a PPK for ultra low power measurement, for general use actually looks good to me.

[late fulcrum]

I use a µCurrent Gold for ultra low power measurement, with a multimeter for DC (ish) or an oscilloscope for more time varying usage.

[mint silo]

Hello guys, can somebody please tell me what the diameter of adafruit anemometer 1733 is? I mean the diameter of the base part and not the overall diameter.

Any answer would be highly appreciated 🙂

[late fulcrum]

From the data sheet

[mint silo]

thank you! btw: I can not open the linked pdf. It tells me "unknown format / damaged file". Using macOS X and Preview.

Any idea why?

[late fulcrum]

The one linked on the product page seems broken, this link seems to work https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/product-files/1733/C2192+datasheet.pdf (Maybe use the "feedback" link on the product page to note that the link is broken?)

[mint silo]

hmm..okay. Thank you very much! Have a good one 🙂

[delicate stream]

I was trying to measure resistance XD

[ebon dew]

Wait what. Can it be done that way?

[delicate stream]

No, which is why it didn’t work XD sleepy brain set to 20v DC instead of resistance range

[idle thorn]

@kattni#1123 I saw you answer several people that M4 simply are not available. Is there any chance of making either a feather wing or stand-alone CAN (FD) board? I have a couple of the Feather CAN boards, but need more. I am looking for other solutions at the moment.

[tardy badger]

Me: “electrical engineering is so fun!”
Also me: “I hope this doesn’t involve partial fractions”

sobs in partial fractions

[acoustic pawn]

Hmm. Mhos are a thing. It’s a unit of conductance. And the symbol is an upside down omega.

[calm kraken]

I have to laugh. I ordered by mistake, not one but two of new ESP32 TFTs Reverend screens. So that's two shipping from NY and I just saw a text message from the USPS, they arrived in Puerto Rico Carolina yesterday. I live in Colorado. Gotta love our Post office.

[tardy badger]

Lol

[lusty axle]

lol I remember going through school thinking "maybe if I ignore this it will just go away"

and never really learning to do it properly. Unfortunately it did not go away in school, but I guess it kinda did go away in the sense that I don't ever use it in my career

[rapid geode]

my cnc controller card is tacking the scenic route form california via arizona, texas, now ohio

[late fulcrum]

Fancy FPGA one?

[rapid geode]

fpga yes, but fancy not really. just a basic mesa card.

i really want a siemens control, but they only work with their own servos, which are all 3 phase 400v.

why they deliberately lock down their systems is beyond me

this makes no sense haha

(second to last line)

[wanton thistle]

money. Seimens website leaves something to be desired. I dont like designing equipment with them. Their HMI designer software reminds me of visual basic

[rapid geode]

im not sure if its worse or better now that yaskawa has taken them over

(yaskawa is not my friend)

ha

[tardy badger]

Were you friends with the old CEO? Lol

[rapid geode]

no, but the yaskawa rep in canada is...

meh

haha

hmm, this is going to be hard to make

[tardy badger]

Nonsense, just will it into existence

[rapid geode]

ha

[tardy badger]

In all seriousness, that does look pretty complicated

I wish you luck

[rapid geode]

well its just a round thing. the problem is making 3 round things all line up precisely with exact diametres.

at a factory youd just grind them all together i thinkg

but i cant do anything fancy like that

[tardy badger]

I have no means of fabrication things like that either

I really want to get some tools so I can do angled sheet metal fabrication

[rapid geode]

can see the 3 parts there

if they are out by even 0.0005" it will mess everything up

hmmm

hmmmm

[grizzled raptor]

yup, thats a job for a lathe, hahaha

[rapid geode]

i have a lathe

this is a job for a centreless grinder

[grizzled raptor]

lathe it one shape, but extra length, then cut the parts out you need.

[tardy badger]

It’s a job for people with more money and tools than me 🙂

[rapid geode]

ha

[grizzled raptor]

ayyyyyyeeeee ain't that the truth. Wish I had the money and tools for that

[rapid geode]

well thats a given. i dont even have a clue what a grinding setup costs. i know it wont fit in my house is all

[grizzled raptor]

What part of canadaland you in fish? I'm about 2 hours east of Tarrana, a couple west of montreal.

[tardy badger]

Just buy the house next door and expand. Problem solved

[rapid geode]

kingston? poor you

haha

[grizzled raptor]

nope, not kingston. Worse. Belleville

[rapid geode]

actually they are ripping down the house 2 down from me. this will be entertaining

they claim they want a basement.

i want to see them ding 8 ft down in solid rock

[grizzled raptor]

Thats a job for some boom twigs

[tardy badger]

You say Belleville and my brain read it as belly ville. Now I’m imagining a town of rednecks walking around with loaded cozies

[rapid geode]

belleville. my uncle lived there. on the island part

[grizzled raptor]

its referred to as BelleVegas

So he was in the county fish?

[tardy badger]

I feel like most places have some city referred with some variation of Vegas. Or Angeles

[rapid geode]

prince edward? i dont remember anything about it ha

was only there once

[grizzled raptor]

yeah, you know it.

[tardy badger]

When I worked in West Yellowstone, Montana; we called Bozeman Boze Angeles

[grizzled raptor]

hahaha

well, it would kinda be huge compared to the rest of montana civilization

[rapid geode]

our names are usually snow based. winterpeg, scarberia

hehe

[tardy badger]

Compared to West Yellowstone, Bozeman was huge

Winterpeg lol

[grizzled raptor]

people don't understand why we call it winterpeg. then you tell them. and then they respond with and people actually choose to live there, hahaha

[tardy badger]

Winnipeg, Alberta with a lake

Sorry, Manitoba is Alberta with a lake

[rapid geode]

winnipeg is just mosquitoes that formed land masses

[tardy badger]

I had an old friend who lived in Winnipeg

[rapid geode]

thats a shame

ha

[tardy badger]

Lol

[grizzled raptor]

oh the mosquitos in winnepeg!!!! i drove to cold lake alberta and back to the annapolis valley in nova scotia where i grew up. we stopped in winnepeg at a gas station to catch a few zzzz.... went for a walk to smoke some green...... that was a mistake.

[rapid geode]

ha

mosquitoes dont bite me, but they still annoy me

[tardy badger]

You were probably bugged out after that hit

[rapid geode]

so many

[grizzled raptor]

you don't stop moving at a brisk pace or you'll be suffering from light headedness in 20 seconds from blood loss

[rapid geode]

i was there for a few months for work

anyhow, could be worse, could be burbank 😛

[tardy badger]

I’ve never been to Canada (some might say that’s a blessing)

[rapid geode]

youre not allowed in. we closed the gate

[grizzled raptor]

Canada is quite nice, and most of the civilized part isn't so cold.

[tardy badger]

The gates for keeping Canadians out apparently

[rapid geode]

its been abnormally warm here all january

[tardy badger]

Too much niceness for America

[grizzled raptor]

i mean, ~60%-75% of our population like within 150 km of the border (a little over 100 freedom units)

live, not like

[rapid geode]

the gate is closed until you sort yourselves out haha

[tardy badger]

Freedom units lol

[rapid geode]

ha

[tardy badger]

What problems? America is the freest place in the world

Lol

[rapid geode]

ha

[grizzled raptor]

hehehehe

[rapid geode]

free as a bird. as long as that bird does what we say

anyhow, off topic

[grizzled raptor]

yeah, politics can get heated.

[rapid geode]

i feel bad now. i was mocking the vfx in star trek picard a while ago

and now i know why they were like that

😦

[grizzled raptor]

huh?

[rapid geode]

the lady that plays the borg queen just died

[grizzled raptor]

oh, snap

[rapid geode]

she had cancer, so they replaced her in the last episode with the agnes actor. and it looked kinda bad

oh well

[frigid tiger]

You're quite fortunate

[rapid geode]

O_o

[tardy badger]

It’s a blessing for Canada

[grizzled raptor]

good show so far. I'm a huge star trek fan. The one part at the end of season one is hard to think about still, despite being so ling ago. But a story line finished up in one of the most, well, that characters ways.

[rapid geode]

no maple syrup for you!

[tardy badger]

They don’t need anyone like me running amuck up there 😆

They’d run out of maple syrup

All the dark amber anyway

[rapid geode]

NO, MINE!

[grizzled raptor]

We have a national reserve, much like the US has with Fuel.

Maple syrup that is

[rapid geode]

keep yer grubby mits off mah syrup!

[tardy badger]

Rumor has it Canadians can survive 10 years after a nuclear apocalypse on kindness and maple syrup

[rapid geode]

ha, i remember when someone stole like $18m worth of barrels from the reserve

[grizzled raptor]

I was about to say that same thing

the great canadian maple syrup heist

[tardy badger]

I recall reading about that

[grizzled raptor]

It was in the news all over the world. Canada is maple syrup.

[rapid geode]

it wasnt me.. i swear

i have maple bacon in the fridge. mmm

need to make me some pancakes

[grizzled raptor]

Over the course of several months between 2011 and 2012, the contents of 9,571 barrels, valued at C$18.7M, were stolen in a suspected insider job from a FPAQ facility in Saint-Louis-de-Blandford, Quebec.

[rapid geode]

2011 i was out of the country. thats my story

[grizzled raptor]

The Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers (French: Fédération des producteurs acéricoles du Québec, FPAQ) is a government-sanctioned private organization that regulates the production and marketing of maple syrup in Quebec. As of 2011, the FPAQ produced 94% of Canadian maple syrup and 77% of the world's supply.

77% of the worlds supply.

its more regulated than wine in france

[rapid geode]

i wanted to try to tap my maple trees. but im told its not worth the effort. ill get maybe 1 $10 bottles woth.

[tardy badger]

It’s not maple syrup unless it comes from the maple part of Canada, otherwise it’s just cooked tree sap

[rapid geode]

ha

[umbral phoenix]

is that the part that maps to the leaf on the flag?

[rapid geode]

the maple region of canada is... all of canada

[grizzled raptor]

yeah, its like an 80:1 reduction or so. 80 liters gets you a liter or so

[tardy badger]

Lol if only

[rapid geode]

maples are weeds. they grow eevrywhere up to the tree line east to west

[grizzled raptor]

anecdata, yes, it does. the red signifies the coasts, the white the unforgiving middle bits, and the maple leaf for the syrup

[rapid geode]

but the ones best for sugar are mostly in quebec

my maples are norway maples

[tardy badger]

Maples grow many places across Canada true, but sugar maples only grow in a handful of areas natively

Thanks to modern horticulture we can grow them a lot more places than they used to

[grizzled raptor]

And there are alot of maple breeds. As a guy who does landscape construction, i have planted no less than 12 different species of maples for customers

[umbral phoenix]

I think I have at least three kinds in the yard

[rapid geode]

theres at least 4 different maples on my street. red, norway (invasive weed), sugar and japanese

[tardy badger]

Yeah, you can make maple syrup from most maples, but most are bitter compared to sugar maple

[umbral phoenix]

oh, Japanese Maple, forgot about that one

I like the red maples... really nice fall color

[grizzled raptor]

probably some red sunset, the standard norway, and crimson king?

[rapid geode]

well most just dont have the sugar concentration so its a waste. norway is second most sugar of the common maples and even that is less than half of a sugar maple. red maples have almost no sugar

[grizzled raptor]

the red sunset anecdata. the ones that go the brilliant red

[umbral phoenix]

maybe, I don't know the specific variety of the reds

[rapid geode]

theres like 1500 maples. ha

so many

[grizzled raptor]

they go really red in the fall, but are green in the summer.

[rapid geode]

and lots of hybrids

[grizzled raptor]

the crimson are the ones that are the dark red all year.

[rapid geode]

when i cut mine down im gonna slice them up into boards

assumiing they arent rotted out

[umbral phoenix]

maples were the first trees I planted... I wanted some good climbing trees 🙂

[rapid geode]

ha

[grizzled raptor]

they are solid hearty trees for that, thats for sure.

[rapid geode]

these were weed the previous owner never ripped out an they grew to 50+ft tall in 25 years

but they are on rock, so the roots spread out under the neighbours house and eventually they will fall in the wind. so, gotta cut them

[grizzled raptor]

yeah. the old canadian shield, haha

[umbral phoenix]

I had to transplant two large maples, one survived :-), one didn't 😦

[grizzled raptor]

disturb that root ball of an established tree, and its hard for it to come back.

[umbral phoenix]

yeah, but the transplanted red maple is doing well

[grizzled raptor]

been there many times in the last 10 years

i mean being a bit to rough with it. dropping it in the hole can cause the disturbance in the ball

transplanting an established tree is always something we try to avoid in my line of work. because its usually 50/50 on it surviving.

[umbral phoenix]

that matches my anecdata 😉

[grizzled raptor]

ayyyeeee lmao

[rapid geode]

what if you just cut half the roots off to build a foundation?

😛

[umbral phoenix]

ouch

[rapid geode]

i wish i wasnt on rock. it would be so much easier to build anything

[frigid tiger]

Build a castle

[rapid geode]

pft

ha

lego castle

[umbral phoenix]

need a dungeon though, below ground

[rapid geode]

if i was rich, i would cut a big hole 2 floors down in the rock. and only have a little glass greenhouse above ground.

ha

[grizzled raptor]

buried seacans

[rapid geode]

actually even if you dug the hole a basement is a bad idea here because water flows through the rock. it would flood every time it rained

[umbral phoenix]

that's what pumps are for 😉

but mother nature Always wins

[rapid geode]

we can have flash floods of 12" of water in 30 seconds. pump doesnt do squat

[grizzled raptor]

bury seacans above the rock. put up a clean fill wanted sign. people will just drop it off for ya

build the greenhouse before the fill.

[rapid geode]

there is no above the rock

[umbral phoenix]

on a mountainside?

[grizzled raptor]

haahaa yeah, i supoose thats an issue

canadian shield

you go down a couple feet in some places and its solid rock

glaciation has scrubbed the lands of the soil.

everywhere the red shades touch is pretty well uninhabitable.

[rapid geode]

i wish i had a couple feet

and its not canadian sheild

[grizzled raptor]

average of a couple feet. Oh. not the shield. which part?

i just assumed, since, well, its 80% of canada

the Rockies or Appalachians? I grew up in Nova Scotia. Right on the Bay of Fundy. It wasn't too bad there in some places, despite being part of the Appalachian Mountain Chain. If you could call the North or South mountains mountains, lol

[night crescent]

LIVE at 10:30pm ET tonight! Desk of Ladyada - Toy Hacking Fun! … and a Mono I2S Audio Amplifier https://youtu.be/4slyNObmWlM

[grizzled raptor]

I grew up very close to here. as in about 20 minutes down the coast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LtEF9WPt4

[rapid geode]

too much water.

😛

[grizzled raptor]

that timelapse covered a realtime length of 12 hours and 28 minutes. its 6 hours 14 minutes between high and low tide.

[night crescent]

WE ARE LIVE! Desk of Ladyada - Toy Hacking Fun! … and a Mono I2S Audio Amplifier https://youtu.be/4slyNObmWlM

[grizzled raptor]

GAHH!! Why the freedom units for the measurements on the fabrication prints?

[dusty citrus]

I don't know, I just unusually checked the aliexpress messages, and I found out that a seller contacted me back asking to pay an extra 6/7usd fee for the shiping, it would be not a problem, but online all I find is that's a scam, dunno how to behave bacause I don't like to waste time

[tardy badger]

I’d just cancel the order, too fishy for me

[delicate stream]

When in doubt, run away

[dusty citrus]

cancelled, I'd wait for the refund thanks... now I'd need to spam alibaba sellers

[delicate stream]

Good luck

So, I have a copy of a book called Electrical Fundamentals by J. J. DeFrance in the endless piles of stuff left in my office left by my predecessor. It’s printed in 1969, and the jacket says it’s a combined and updated edition of two fundamentals titles from 1953 and 1957… despite being over half a century old, it probably still is of use for the actual fundamentals, right? Electronics at the most basic haven’t had a radical change? Skimming I see stuff like DC generator design and stuff

[late fulcrum]

Oh yeah, the basics haven't changed. I still refer to my 1947 "Primer of Electronics" book. Some understanding has improved over the years, and schematics are often more clearly drawn than they used to be. The ways some things (like time constants, complex impedance, etc.) are explained have improved as well. But the physics remains the same (there's a reason the F-1 engine design for Apollo is still relevant today)

[delicate stream]

I thought so, yay! I love old books, but even better when they’re useful

[late fulcrum]

Oh, me too. There's a reason my headboard looks like this

[delicate stream]

Many of my books are older than both of us combined, lol

[late fulcrum]

Excellent! I have an assortment of 18th and 19th century books, and a few older ones. I used to read them a lot as a kid, with the result that I'd use turns of phrase that had been out of currency for quite a while. Some of my friends said they suspected I was a vampire or something.

[delicate stream]

Lol. I pick up all sorts of antiquated phrases and drop them mindlessly, sometimes I get stares… like “if I had my druthers”, which is both antiquated and regionally incorrect for me XD (common like 40+ years ago and more in the southern US, whereas I’m up north)

[late fulcrum]

Heh, yup! There was a traffic jam a while ago, and I told the other folks in the car it was because there was a car athwart the roadway. They didn't know what I was talking about.

[delicate stream]

gears grind across?

[late fulcrum]

Another friend of mine asked for a smattering of onions on an entrée, and the waitstaff didn't know what that meant.

[delicate stream]

That’s one I’ve heard but not for ages

[late fulcrum]

Yeah, across. It was mostly a nautical term decades ago, and is rarely used today.

[delicate stream]

I wonder if my dad would know that one

He was in the navy

[delicate stream]

Lots of OS/2!

Most of my vintage computer books are Windows and Linux

And some Unix

[late fulcrum]

Mine predate any of those

[blissful roost]

I rescued that lot from an office clear out.

[delicate stream]

Did they come with the kitty???

[late fulcrum]

Er, I may be wrong: the 6800 came out in the early 1970s, and the earliest Unix was 1969 or so?

[blissful roost]

None of those date back that far.. the oldest is 1980-something.

[delicate stream]

Google says Unix dev started 1969, first manual 1971, first announced outside of Bell Labs 1973

6800 was 1974

I think my oldest computer books are early 80s, maybe late 70s

Unrelated, someone rescue me from my office, it’s such a mess and I can’t even sit because I pulled my desk clear to get taken out for a replacement to be put in… but the maintenance guy didn’t help me get the old one out so I’m stuck

And I’m sleepy and I don’t want to cleannnn

[blissful roost]

We have a clear desk policy, because desk sharing.

And other reasons.

[delicate stream]

I was indirectly told I needed to clean my workspace in case someone else came in for me being sick or whatever… but that’s reasonable, it was BAD

Here’s the half I never got to

(There was actually MORE there before I got here, but I haven’t touched most of it yet)

[late fulcrum]

It is what it is

[tardy badger]

If you felt a disturbance, it was me plugging in a USB cable the right way, the first time.

[delicate stream]

It’s a little different in our personal workspaces XD I’m placed at a school by my company, and if I’m out, someone else steps in. And my messy brain is not compatible with your average mortal…

[blissful roost]

Wife's desk, which I have decided to use as my spare. 😅

[delicate stream]

But I really do need to clean my desk at home… things keep sliding off and I have like 2 inches to move my mouse, and it hangs off the edge anyway

[delicate stream]

That’s not a whole lot going on, lol

[blissful roost]

Yup.
My main desk is computer only. Lol

[delicate stream]

That’s what I WANT my desk to look like

[delicate stream]

Computer only… madness

[blissful roost]

Ok... Computer and mess. 🤪

[tardy badger]

I’d show the rest of my desk but then I’d have to call in an AC-130

[delicate stream]

A what now? Lol

[tardy badger]

It’s a C-130 with large pew pews on the side

[blissful roost]

Gunship!

MOAR DAKKA!

[delicate stream]

Lol

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/avion-plane-ac130-transformers-gif-18851142

This beauty

[blissful roost]

https://sites.google.com/site/leesaircraft/_/rsrc/1225286404695/ac-130-gunship-s/20060505132115669_5.gif

[delicate stream]

Here’s my desk before Christmas, less stuff than I have now, lol

[blissful roost]

Hehehe

[delicate stream]

Someone goes to turn it on:

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[tardy badger]

There’s a line from Danny Phantom where everyone gets sick and gets ghost powers; and the ghost physician says “because I’m from the government and I can audit your taxes at will” and how this hasn’t become a meme is beyond me

[delicate stream]

You know what you have to do, skerr

But yeah, that’s an amazing line, lol

Googling that line gives all IRS related results… images are all presidents and government people

[tardy badger]

Yeah lol

[thick wind]

I feel a lot better about my own desks now haha

I needed this, ty

[delicate stream]

Lmao, you’re welcome

Oh! I found one when I added “Danny phantom” to the search

[tardy badger]

A new template for ya

Dr Bert Rand lol

[delicate stream]

Hehe

[delicate stream]

Deep cut Superman reference???

[tardy badger]

It’s such a weird nugget of a show to remember

Mayhaps

[delicate stream]

Danny Phantom is the best

[tardy badger]

Did you hear we’re getting 40 new episodes of Phineas and Ferb

It was announced weeks ago at this point

But I am excited

[delicate stream]

I need to actually watch that show XD

https://tenor.com/view/perry-the-platypus-phineas-and-ferb-pnf-dr-doofenshmirtz-perry-gif-26543370

Dr. Doof’s voice is in so many memes I have it burned into my mind, lol… but I can’t spell his name

[tardy badger]

Heinz Doofenshmirtz

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hachubby-hachu-ketchup-pettheketchup-gif-22093826

[gusty torrent]

My current disaster

[delicate stream]

Lol, that’s still not bad

[dusty citrus]

indeed, but I would not keep that printer that close

[rapid geode]

my little desk.

temporary cause the office room is under construction

[blissful roost]

I see Gundam! 😄

[delicate stream]

Better than nothing, lol. But no mouse and keyboard? Do you control it via a BCI?

[rapid geode]

i control it with a mouse i found running around the back yard.

he also powers it with a wheel

2 in one

[delicate stream]

Lol

[thick wind]

Your temporary desk is a standing desk? Man, do I envy that.

[rapid geode]

standing desks are cheap now.

[delicate stream]

Can be had for under $200

[rapid geode]

mine was um. 289cdn i think (plus the ikea top)

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-no-money-broke-king-of-queens-doug-heffernan-gif-23621606

[rapid geode]

nope, 349. there was one for 199 but i wanted the stronger one

cause the cnc machine will sit on it

[delicate stream]

I just got one at work, ordered from Amazon for $189

[tardy badger]

I’d buy one but apparently paying your rent and other bills is more important. I hate how adulty things get in the way of me having fun and having nice standing desks

[rapid geode]

pft

rent is for fools

[tardy badger]

I’ve got one in my Amazon cart that I’ll eventually get

[rapid geode]

sqatting is where its at

[delicate stream]

Boo adulting

I just wanna be a baby and nap

[rapid geode]

anyhow

[delicate stream]

POWAH

[tardy badger]

POV: you are LadyAda and PT’s kid

[rapid geode]

ha

their kid sleeps on a pile of plushy arduinos

[tardy badger]

Could you imagine being like “I want to make this” and Limor just handing the kid a debit card and the credentials for their own Digi-Key account

[rapid geode]

ha

she seems like she works 24/7 so the kid probably would be lik e"whos that lady?"

[tardy badger]

I foresee a dangerously innovative child. But one that’s raised to have fun with life. That seems to be the vibe I’ve always got from Limor and PT. They’re going to be amazing parents

She’s busy a lot, yeah. But i imagine they work really hard to make quality time for the baby, especially since BabyAda needs their undivided attention

Parenting == hard

[rapid geode]

ha

[delicate stream]

Seems like she works a lot around BabyAda. I have a feeling the baby is always nearby

[rapid geode]

parenting is for fools. just let the kid fend for itself

[delicate stream]

I know the baby is always nearby for Desk of LadyAda now

[rapid geode]

this week on the desk of lady ada. RGB diapers

[delicate stream]

Lol, it might happen

[rapid geode]

bluetooth moisture sensor

[tardy badger]

Bluetooth vomit sensor

That’s a real necessity when your kids are sick and you’re trying to sleep

[rapid geode]

ha

[delicate stream]

I expect many baby and kid related projects in the coming years

[tardy badger]

Same

I’m really excited for this new chapter in Adafruit

[rapid geode]

new feather baby monitor

[delicate stream]

Same! I imagine the baby growing to be the best of Limor and PT, growing up with the love and passion of her parents for electronics and hacking, coming up with more awesome things…

Also Adafruit in general expanding on family dynamics in the maker space

[rapid geode]

the kid will rebel and in their teens go full on menonite

😛

[delicate stream]

More early STEM than ever before

[delicate stream]

I mean, it’s possible

I’m sure they just want the kid to be happy, but geeky electronic love is kind of infectious

[rapid geode]

my brother tries to force their kids to do what they want and it doesnt work. haha.

i just give them candy

ha

[delicate stream]

Lol, no, forcing never does. Typically people who were forced to do a thing as kids and continue doing it as adults don’t like doing it anyway, and just feel required to… like kids who are forced to become doctors and hate it

[tardy badger]

I just let my kids like what they want. Unfortunately my son has become obsessed with Pokémon

[delicate stream]

Oop

[tardy badger]

And now it’s all I hear about when he wakes up. Throughout the day. Etc…

[rapid geode]

pokey man

[delicate stream]

Maybe try working Pokémon into electronics…

[tardy badger]

Oh I am

[delicate stream]

Hehehe

Lure them in with what they already love, then spring the education trap

[tardy badger]

He’s going to learn how electronics are made as I’m making him a Pokédex

[delicate stream]

The best learning is having fun and not realizing you’re learning

[tardy badger]

Speaking of which.. I really need to get on designing that

His birthday is in April so I’m running out of time 🫣

[rapid geode]

ha

[delicate stream]

Oop

[delicate stream]

Run Forest ruuuun

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[rapid geode]

april fools is my neices birthday.

[tardy badger]

You gotta be kidding

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[rapid geode]

shes almost old enough to start playing pranks on. turning 7

ha

[delicate stream]

Give her an empty box with “look at the top flap” written on the bottom inside, then “haha got you” on that flap, lol

[rapid geode]

nah, gonna do a cake with a balloon inside

muhahaha

[delicate stream]

Hehehehehehe, I love those. When other people are involved anyway. Don’t do that to me or I’ll probably cry

[late fulcrum]

There was a film ("Young Doctors In Love"?) where one aspiring surgeon kept thinking back to a birthday party when he was a kid, and they told him to cut the cake ("make the incision") and the cake had a balloon in it and it frightened him.

[rapid geode]

that film name sounds.... dubious

[delicate stream]

And familiar

[late fulcrum]

It's a kind of raunchy farce, but that scene of childhood trauma stuck with me

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpsons-trauma-the-simpsons-traumado-gif-8586139

[tardy badger]

The Brother’s Grim scene where the horse ate the child has stuck with me over the years.

I’ve not been able to watch the movie since I first saw it

[late fulcrum]

Yeah, that would do it

[tardy badger]

My sister loved the movie though..

I wonder what people’s palates for that kind of theatrical content says about them..

Like people who love horror movies, thrillers, things like that..

Signs and White Noise was about as much as I could take

Though War of the Worlds was surprisingly palatable

Almost used the wrong palate there.. now I imagine people hauling around pallets of movies

[tardy badger]

Oh no my retirement is ruined

Mostly talking about the eggs lol

Somehow still $6.49 for 2 dozen at my local Costco

Meanwhile Walmart is charging $25 for 5 dozen

Not visible, my parmigiana Reggiano under the egg

[dusty citrus]

when monopolies do not play well, I would like to ship my eggs to you, if the us did not deemed my european eggs illegal

[tardy badger]

Your counter stable eggs? Preposterous

Lol

I wish we had counter stable eggs regularly available

[dusty citrus]

here 12 eggs do cost like 1.20 or 1.50

[lusty fossil]

Oooh Jonny Quest. Loved that show as a kid, made me love Venture Bros even more.

[tardy badger]

Also, a small blip in capitalism is Costco refusing to raise prices to meet investor revenue desires is my favorite part of this year.

[delicate stream]

American Psycho is one of my favorite comedies, what does that say?

[tardy badger]

Their logic was sound “if things are too expensive, people won’t be able to shop, so we’re holding prices low to meet consumer needs”

[delicate stream]

I generally stop buying things I can’t afford

[dusty citrus]

fun fact (although idk if its a fact I just heard it), in the us you do like wash and freeze your eggs to be demanded safe, while in the europe it's prohibited to wash them, since the egg shell provides a natural protection or something, but our chicken should be vaccinated, although dunno how much that is true

better explained than my laughtable grammar

[delicate stream]

Pros and cons to both methods

[blissful roost]

Eggs can be washed, but only in the way of getting any general schmutz off them.

[delicate stream]

I think you’re supposed to wash European eggs before consumption tho, right?

[blissful roost]

Yeah, you should.. lol

[dusty citrus]

no? I just put them to boil, or break them, then cook

unless they are full of escrements which does not like happen often

[delicate stream]

Hmm

[blissful roost]

If an egg is full of 💩 .. it's not really an egg 😛

[dusty citrus]

it's not like I'm eating the shell, besides I'm cooking it

[tardy badger]

Eggs are laid with what’s called “bloom” I believe

It protects the egg from fecal material during the creation and laying process

[dusty citrus]

dumb reasining for stuff that I never thought about, but just copied from others, now I'm going to start washing eggs too...

[delicate stream]

Wash everything

Wash your cans

[rapid geode]

O_o

wash the toilet paper

wash your newspapers

wash the pizza

[delicate stream]

Wash the cotton candy

https://tenor.com/view/cottoncandy-racoon-funny-animal-gif-5846999

… maybe don’t wash the cotton candy

[blissful roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meAj5IHnU58

I love the way Kotaro eats. ❤️

[delicate stream]

Efficient

[blissful roost]

Hana reminds me of Lillie.. SCOFF, SCOFF, SCOFF!

[delicate stream]

My cat goes cronch cronch cronch

[grizzled raptor]

Hmmm. Bobby Hull died earlier today

[tardy badger]

Barrett Strong too

[grizzled raptor]

I heard that through the grapevine.

As in you. That sucks as well

[delicate stream]

A moment of silence for fallen sports and music stars…

[grizzled raptor]

Bibby hull, not so much. We was a womanizer and a drunk

[delicate stream]

Oof… that’s a different sadness

[rapid geode]

borg queen died. so many people. seems every day anoother big name

[delicate stream]

Some days many big names…

[tardy badger]

Borg queen actress also played Wednesday adamms in the original Adamms family, right?

[delicate stream]

Which queen? Regardless, sad…

[rapid geode]

uh, no thats another lady

err, i think

checks

[tardy badger]

The original Wednesday died yesterday

[rapid geode]

yes. but she was old. annie was like 41

[delicate stream]

Trek seems to be losing a lot of folks recently…

[delicate stream]

Far too young…

[rapid geode]

yes

it also explains the end of picard

so they must have known for a while and she backed out of season 3

[lusty fossil]

60s is old enough to expect death?

[rapid geode]

i thought she was older than that

in my head that show was 100 years ago

ha

[lusty fossil]

Same

[delicate stream]

Picard was supposed to be a limited run anyway, I think it was supposed to be 2 seasons?

[rapid geode]

the mayor of one of the cities here dies too (local celebrity, she was 101)

[delicate stream]

That’s a good long life

[rapid geode]

not sure, but they filmed with her for the ending it seems, and then replaced her face with the other actress

[rapid geode]

or bad, she was polarising haha

[delicate stream]

Are you talking about ||having Dr. Jurati as the Borg Queen|| at the end of S2?

[rapid geode]

yes

everyone was wondering why the fx was so rushed and bad looking when the rest of the show was great

now we know

it was rushed

anyhow, sad

on the other side we have actors trying to get fired left and right, haha

rick and morty needs a new voice actor now

[delicate stream]

Hmm… filming for S2 finished in 2022… I thought she was still working until now. Hard to say why FX are bad sometimes

[tardy badger]

There’s a guy on TikTok that does great R&M voices

[delicate stream]

I’m curious if they’ll try to get him back if it turns out the allegations are false

[rapid geode]

yes, but if she knew she couldnt continue for s3 and dropped out last minute, then they pull a faCE replacement

[delicate stream]

That would explain the wild story I thought was out of left field

[rapid geode]

the story was (well in relative terms) fine, i think they filmed the ending (which was also the beginning) first maybe, and then when, oh carp, we have to switch actors

[delicate stream]

I thought it was interesting and novel. Just didn’t see it coming!

[dusty citrus]

huh I need to pick up phone, but I can't decide on what, but they are all the same

[delicate stream]

?

[tardy badger]

Pick Up Phones are the kind that always leave you

They’re called Pick Up Phones because they Pick Up and leave you

[delicate stream]

Lol

[dusty citrus]

I mean they are all the same

[delicate stream]

Ohhh, pick up a phone

[tardy badger]

I didn’t realize there were so many off brand white label phones out there

has an iPhone 13 pro

[delicate stream]

I can tell you I like my iPhones 8, SE, and 13 Pro Max, lol. Liked my Pixel 6 Pro until it became useless with updates…

But yeah, in terms of aesthetics… glass slabs

[tardy badger]

For something like a cell phone, I definitely would stick with more mainstream brands. It’s difficult to gauge bloatware on white labels phones. So Samsung, Motorola, etc would be good

Xioami, I’ve heard mixed reviews. I imagine your experience will vary based on how paranoid you are

[dusty citrus]

by function they all do the same thing for me, so I just get the cheaper one, although this time around, they seem to come all from the same oem, a while ago there were fancier small phones, or with a motorized camera, or with a termal camera, but now I cannot find any

[delicate stream]

Apple… fine

CAT phones have thermal cameras, I think the CAT S62 Pro is the nearest

[tardy badger]

A thermal camera definitely would come in handy

The 13 Pro has LiDAR and I’m not really sure a great use for it

Besides 3D scanning but I don’t do much of that

[delicate stream]

Can confirm useful for cooking, electronics, and 3D printing

[tardy badger]

I think overall I’m weary of cybersecurity efficacy on any phone these days. The once walled garden of iOS has proven to have more and more vulnerabilities and zero day exploits with each passing update and channel of data being exposed through APIs

[dusty citrus]

tbh I don't really care, if someone wants to bring in, they will likely find a way anyway

[delicate stream]

Why make it easier for them to?

[tardy badger]

I care a lot given the job that I have.

Security is a huge priority

[umbral phoenix]

@tardy badger I've found the opposite to be true... over time, the APIs restrcit app acceess more and more, or at least provide more controls over app access

[dusty citrus]

yes but, there are like 8 bilion of people, probabilities are high; I'm not saying that I do not care about security, but saying that security wars over devices are kinda pointless, so if you use a popular device, numbers might be inflated because it's popular, whereas a thing that nobody use, might be perceived as being secure, when in reality it might as well be garbage

[rain cradle]

i recently bought the 3rd xiaomi on a row, they've all worked fine for me (tho i have no prior experience with top-priced devices)

worked fine for my long sessions of Pokemon GO, which was good enough :p

[delicate stream]

Certain parties may know how many hours you spend…

[tardy badger]

It’s not the api rather the increasing numbers of data streams going to and from a phone

[rain cradle]

not many... only 0.5M pokes catched 🙃

[umbral phoenix]

true, more data, but also more default protections and more data controls

[delicate stream]

Lol

[tardy badger]

And a lot of exploits use API vulnerabilities

Or most of the exploits in the last 5-6 years

[umbral phoenix]

but most exploits require circumstances that don't affect most people, and patches are quick

[tardy badger]

I was more or less poking people paranoid about the Chinese government harvesting their data. Which we should be concerned about, but on the level of no government should have this kind of access to foreign citizens data.

Or their own citizens data for that matter..

[umbral phoenix]

you've seen that Apple is going to e2e encrypt more of the data stores?

[tardy badger]

Yeah, it’s a great step. Especially since they are not storing tokens in servers

For the average person, security really isn’t a huge concern that pops up day to day, and I can’t blame people for being relatively indifferent about it.

[rain cradle]

i dont think there's many info to get about me in the 1st place, and if they really wanted anything, there's always a way to get it, so im personally not really concerned about that even if i dislike the idea

edit: i mean important/useful info

[tardy badger]

But it definitely can go from using an indifferent person to exploit larger organizations

And I’d bet that the average social engineering scheme targets indifferent people

[delicate stream]

Indifferent or uneducated

[umbral phoenix]

yeah, there needs to be much better security and privacy education, better default practices, etc.

[tardy badger]

But it’s not something to be paranoid about, just take normal precautions that protect you and your identity and data

[umbral phoenix]

I keep it pretty tight, minimize the apps I use, severely limit the data apps can access, etc

[dusty citrus]

wasn't use also caught at spying people? although they don't have execution vans...

[delicate stream]

Maybe don’t buy a phone from totally unknown company

[tardy badger]

Yeah

Also I’d you travel around SE Asia, definitely use a burner phone and don’t load any social media or anything. Take pictures with a normal digital camera, etc…

Actually make that, if you travel anywhere

Europe to the US, Us to Asia, Asia to etc…

[delicate stream]

Anywhere out of country

Get a dumb phone

[tardy badger]

Other countries can and do regularly spy on tourists

And the US spies on its own citizens 🙂

[delicate stream]

I believe I recall a NASA employee being forced to unlock their phone when trying to re-enter the US despite having classified data or something to that effect…

[tardy badger]

Ah yeah, I remember reading about that

[umbral phoenix]

it's unconstituional (US) to force someone to unlock with a passcode... that's something you know

but biometrics is another matter

[dusty citrus]

all govs are the same, although some are worse than others, china is known to do pretty nasty things though

[tardy badger]

Nothings stopping them from using Face ID

[delicate stream]

The world is bad, burn it all

[umbral phoenix]

right, so disable face or touch ID if you think that's a risk

[tardy badger]

Tiny Elmo

[umbral phoenix]

oir keep your fingers on the two buttons to lock the phone so it requires a passcode

[tardy badger]

Just always use a burner when you travel that has 0 features lol

[dusty citrus]

or reboot your phone

ninjed

[delicate stream]

This doesn’t work if they take it from you before you face a chance

And then hold it to your face

[tardy badger]

Honestly, I’d just have a traveling phone loaded with pictures of tacos, hot dogs, pizza, etc.. all kinds of food

[delicate stream]

Mmm food

[tardy badger]

Also maybe don’t travel abroad with classified info.

[umbral phoenix]

well, yeah

I'm not that concerned that any government is out to get me specifically

[delicate stream]

Don’t travel

Stay inside

Stay in bed

[umbral phoenix]

Don't leave the house

lol

[tardy badger]

Don’t even be born

[dusty citrus]

I can't find any that I like, this randomness as ""night vision"" though

[tardy badger]

Night vision. Interesting

[delicate stream]

Pixels have Night Mode, which is really amazing, and can make night look like day

[tardy badger]

My iPhone has self defense mode

This things heavy and will definitely leave a mark

[delicate stream]

My iPhone has a metal case so I can use it as a weapon and not damage it

[umbral phoenix]

that's gotta be weighty

[delicate stream]

Ehh, a little, but it’s nothing for me…

5.3oz

[umbral phoenix]

I suspect I could do more damage with my hands than trying to wield a phone

[delicate stream]

Phone is 240g

[delicate stream]

Probably XD

I know I can twist a person’s arm off

[umbral phoenix]

ouch

[delicate stream]

I only use my power in self defense

[frigid tiger]

Make brass knuckles with the functionality of a smart watch

[tardy badger]

Smart knuckles

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie2-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog2-sonic-movie-gif-24082783

[rapid geode]

O_o

i prefer stupid phones. no fluff. nokia 3110

[tardy badger]

Lol

You prefer a phone that will outlast humanity?

[rapid geode]

yes

i want the space men in the future to read my moms annoying messages

i find archeology hilarious (well the maintream portrayal of it). You find a bone and you invenet a whole life and scenario of a culture... meanwhile the guy could have tripped on his shoelaces and hit their head on the toilet

in millions of years i want to see how the next civilisation portrays us. cause absolutely nothing we do makes any sense out of context

[tardy badger]

English will be but a relic and we will revert to talking with what we’d perceive as incoherent noises

[rapid geode]

one day the owners of this planet are going to come home and be like "what the heck are these monkeys doing here?

[dusty citrus]

their camera can be trusted right?

[thick wind]

Trusted for what, exactly?

[dusty citrus]

it was meant to be sarcastic ("funny thermal images in daly life, everyone can be vangoogh")

[thick wind]

Also worth noting the FLIR watermark in the bottom left of SOME of the images.

[rapid geode]

ha

[delicate stream]

I don’t trust the spelling “termocamera”

[frigid tiger]

Have you looked at the FLIR lepton

I think that's the cheapest thermal module thing on the civilian market

Gen3 night vision optics are interestig as well but too expensive

I heard Microsoft HoloLens has the best night vision from someone that field tested it, I think that's a digital thing

[delicate stream]

Haven’t played with the Lepton, but I like my FLIR camera in my CAT S60

[late fulcrum]

The InfiRay modules are another inexpensive but useful consumer grade option

For more real night vision, I look at image converter tubes and the like.

[tardy badger]

Aliexpress random times throughout the year: “get these cool gadgets for your haunted house”

Me looking for my haunted house:

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-well-where-is-it-looking-for-something-gif-5291661

[rapid geode]

your house is so haunted it vanished

[wanton thistle]

this is not my beautiful house

[lusty fossil]

The haunted house was inside of you all along.

[jaunty aurora]

I have been trying to learn fpga design but so far I can only blink a light in vhdl and verilog. Any pointers world be appreciated. I have invested in a few xilinx boards and a few from intel and gowin and lattice

[crystal ore]

One small step up from that: fade a LED on and off with variable PWM control.

[tardy badger]

Implement a simple traffic light controller that uses slide switches to indicate a car is waiting.

Oh you even have a Pynq

Nice

Make a 4 bit Arithmetic and Logic Unit that does the following operations:

• add
• subtract
• AND
• OR
• NOT
• right shift the LSB of the second input into the first
• left shift the MSB of the first input into the second

Output to 4 LEDs for the operation, 1 led for Overflow, 1 led for zero, and 1 led for negative

Hackster also has a list of projects other people have done https://www.hackster.io/fpga/projects

[frigid tiger]

thanks

[lusty fossil]

My work is getting a laser. Seems like a cheap one.

Also seems like operation will be locked down to me and 2 people so I won't have to fight hard on safety

[tardy badger]

Nice

Get some lock out tag out clips just to make sure you can asset dominance

[lusty fossil]

Good idea

[fierce prawn]

Just got a razer keychain and removed battery
RGB is hardwired so I can only mod it to connect to a microcontroller

[rain cradle]

this could be a good learning resource for how some "basic" components work https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFt_AvWsXl0dPhqVsKt1Ni_46ARyiCGSq
porting those to VHDL should already make you learn some stuff + you'll have some building blocks to make more complex circuits

[tardy badger]

Ahh… it’s really warm this morning 5°F with a feels like with wind of -5°F.

That’s -15°C and -21°C respectively

[rain cradle]

thx for the translation :D

[delicate stream]

My kind of weather

Where’s Kelvin tho

[rain cradle]

i think my city rarely goes under 10ºC during the year, thats cool, pun intended

[rain cradle]

K = C+273, at least is a straight forward conversion, not like the non-sense F 🤣

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-badum-tss-drum-joke-unimpressed-gif-7770998

[delicate stream]

Actually it’s C+273.15 :P

[verbal rapids]

That's not exact enough for me

[delicate stream]

C+273.15000

[rapid geode]

kelvin and hobbs?

[delicate stream]

Close enough

[verbal rapids]

Those wusses just screwed up Celsius by making absolute zero -273.15. Now water freezes at -0.0001 C and boils at 99.9839 C at 1 atm

[tardy badger]

Just add 273

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

But real people use the Rankine scale

[tardy badger]

Joke or not, just add 273.15 and you’ll be as cool as kelvin

[delicate stream]

Lol

0°R is better than 0K

[tardy badger]

An engineer would have rounded those significant figures to 0 and 100 lol..

A scientist would have expanded them

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

It’s -0.000012177492

*disclaimer: that value is 100% made up

[delicate stream]

It’s about 497°R outside

[verbal rapids]

14% of all values online are randomly made up

[tardy badger]

Weird, I read it was 15%

Lol

[verbal rapids]

ooh, Rankine. don't see that often

[delicate stream]

100% of this sentence is characters

[delicate stream]

It’s my favorite weird scale XD

[tardy badger]

If we’re rankin the temps, 69.420°F is the perfect temperature

[delicate stream]

Rankine was a madman and I love it

[tardy badger]

Not too hot, not too cold. Increases the chances of seeing snoop dogg

[verbal rapids]

All the best scientists were mad

[delicate stream]

Look at this man. Majestic

[tardy badger]

And all the maddest people were scientists

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-hulk-the-hulk-bruce-banner-mark-ruffalo-gif-14705593

[tardy badger]

It’s like Moses parted his beard himself

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[verbal rapids]

I'm jumping the gun with my new keyboard. I'm trying to get used to ortholinear but I don't even have a plate for my switches. My keys keep wobbling and even falling out.

[tardy badger]

I get the excitement. Making your own stuff is one of the single most exciting experiences in making

I’m going to make a keyboard one of these days too

[verbal rapids]

I'm going to make another one. Like one of the wacky split ones that have 30 keys total.

[tardy badger]

Not sure what kind a want though.. maybe I’ll do a track ball on the right side

[verbal rapids]

This is what I'm playing with now. https://learn.adafruit.com/split-ortho-keyboard. The default code is using circuitpython and it had none of the cool features of QMK. Then I found KMK, which is basically QMK for CircuitPython. Neradoc in #help-with-circuitpython made a scanner for my keyboard so it would work together. Now I can modtap, tap dance, etc.

[tardy badger]

Nice

[rain cradle]

just in case, you can also run QMK on RP2040 (which is apparently the MCU on that keyboard)

[verbal rapids]

I can, but it has issues with the TC8418 breakouts apparently

[rain cradle]

i dont even know what that is, let me look closer at the product's page

maybe an IO-expander or similar device that needed a driver

[verbal rapids]

exactly

it uses both I2C channels so I can wire up both halves of the keyboard

[rain cradle]

if you want to, i could try and help you code the code for it

but having everything done already on KMK is definitely the easiest path hehe

[verbal rapids]

I'm tempted to take you up on that offer, but like you said I already have KMK working

[rain cradle]

i still need to finish my QMK driver for the eInk display, somehow i broke the code to use the SRAM chip on the screen module and i can't find the issue 😦

it was actually working before i refactored the code 🤦‍♂️

[verbal rapids]

I guess you don't have a backup?

[rain cradle]

it should be somewhere in my git history but im not gonna dive there

i've also made several changes since then, so maybe worse than simply debugging at this point

[verbal rapids]

too much? like "here there be dragons"?

[rain cradle]

moved files around, changed how the top-level "generic eInk display" works, slightly changed the IL91874-specific code...

not dragons, but maybe tigers :p

good thing is, driver without using SRAM (just storing framebuffer on the MCU) is still working, so the issue is (or should be) isolated on SRAM-specific code

[verbal rapids]

what are you trying to do with the display?

[rain cradle]

anything i want to draw: https://docs.qmk.fm/#/quantum_painter?id=quantum-painter

not truly useful, but more of a learning + showoff thing hehe
PCB design status: <#help-with-hw-design message>

[verbal rapids]

I get it. I bought the macropad from adafruit just for that kind of purpose.

I wrote code so I could turn it into an arpeggio keyboard. like i'd press and hold keys in a certain order and it would print a specific key when i released them

[rain cradle]

so im guessing theres a single MCU which "talks" with the 2 expanders on 2 separate I2C drivers to scan each half? shouldn't be terribly hard to port into QMK

[verbal rapids]

that's it

I'm much more comfortable with python than anything else. I wouldn't have the first idea of where to start trying to make QMK work with this

[rain cradle]

you'd need an equivalent of this (https://github.com/elpekenin/qmk_firmware/blob/pekelop/users/elpekenin/spi/custom_spi_master.c) for I2C, namely adapt QMK code that wraps ChibiOS internals so you can use 2 buses at the same time, as current QMK code can only handle a single one

and the driver to "talk" with the expanders, which would be somewhat similar to this other expander: https://github.com/elpekenin/qmk_firmware/blob/pekelop/drivers/gpio/mcp23018.c

• ChibiOS is the "operating system" over which QMK runs on ARM MCUs

[verbal rapids]

thanks for saving me googling that, lol

[rain cradle]

so far, code draws

• state of my custom features and some of the builtin ones
• commit on which the firmware was compiled

[verbal rapids]

I like it

It has a nice resolution

now you just need to make it play Bad Apple

j/k. i just started seeing that animation pop up everywhere

[rain cradle]

the device shouldnt be drawn more than once every 3min, according to the product's documentation

[verbal rapids]

oh that's right. you said it's e-ink

[rain cradle]

but i could play it on the ILI9341, which a) is RGB b) more pixels c) has touchsensor so you could even make a small game

[rain cradle]

and this is what the SRAM variant does currently, when trying to draw the same thing

[verbal rapids]

that looks completely fine to me

[rain cradle]

not even a single noisy pixel 😎

[verbal rapids]

lol

hmm. how do I set up my pronouns for this server? or are people just changing their names?

[tardy badger]

Do you have the pixel dimensions right?

I had a similar look on my small e-ink display when the MxN pixel lengths were wrong

[rain cradle]

code doing basically the same for both, yeah (init wise)

common configuration for the variants on the _base_qp_il91874_make_spi_device function and then change a couple things as needed: https://gist.github.com/elpekenin/426b35d7a212319d52516c2fffb7f05a

driver->base.driver_vtable contains pointers to the functions used to draw a pixel, convert an arbitrary HSV color to the pixel representation used by the display, etc, the with_sram variant just makes the appropriate changes to store that info on the SRAM talking with it over SPI, instead of holding the framebuffer in the MCU's RAM

the idea itself is easy, but there has to be a small issue somewhere i cant find...
anyway i just cleaned the code a little more, going to make a couple tests just in case

[delicate stream]

Ultimate animation test for any display

[verbal rapids]

I saw someone make this the other day. It's bad apple but filled in with hyperbolic planes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9EZy8ZzlVU

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-how-i-feel-about-that-andrew-baena-i-dont-know-how-it-makes-me-feel-i-have-strange-feeling-im-feeling-weird-gif-22338968

[whole jacinth]

you can change your nickname (display name) on a per-server basis. it's what i've done on this server

[delicate stream]

Yeah, here it’s just in your nickname. No roles for pronouns or gender (which honestly people tend not to read anyway)

[tardy badger]

I added my pronouns after I got called “she” a few times

[delicate stream]

Hmm… wonder why people assumed you to be a she…

[verbal rapids]

i just assume everyone on the internet is a robot

[delicate stream]

I just assume everyone on the internet is an FBI agent

[dusty citrus]

bahhhh also the washing machine broke, looking for another washing machine, and everything is a scam or aliexpress grade, looking in the chinese market and they have some pretty interesting stuff but the shipping does cost more than the machine itself or straight up refuse to ship, I though about making a diy one or fix that one, but due to an highter authority I have no time and I cant

[verbal rapids]

I've been meaning to ask you, I've been looking to commit some felonies. Are there any felonies you enjoy committing, Kyoshii?

[tardy badger]

pew pew

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-alastor-maybe-gif-15472961

[verbal rapids]

what is that gif from?

it looks familiar, but I haven't seen the show

[delicate stream]

Hazbin Hotel

[verbal rapids]

Ahhh. I remember seeing a youtube video talking about the show.

[tardy badger]

Made by the same people who did Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends

https://tenor.com/view/blue-forced-help-cheese-gif-13641699

No idea I’d that’s true, the style is just similar

[delicate stream]

Lmao, unrelated, but shares similarities

[verbal rapids]

talking about cartoons reminds me that I need to finish watching the new short films by Don Hertzfeldt. I watched Rejected when it came out and I only recently heard he's created more stuff.

[delicate stream]

Too much stuff, not enough time

[verbal rapids]

That's how I am with games

[delicate stream]

I need like 10 years per week to catch up

[verbal rapids]

I had that chance for a few years. I still mainly procrastinated.

[tardy badger]

There’s so much I need to catch up on.

[delicate stream]

You had 5200 years per year for a while and still didn’t catch up???

[verbal rapids]

I feel like this is how I get errors when I program.

[delicate stream]

Lol

Time is an error

[verbal rapids]

Using your definition, let's say I had 1.4 days to be able to catch up

[delicate stream]

Hmmmm

That’s a tiny amount of time

[verbal rapids]

only two years

[delicate stream]

Barely enough to wake up

I’m thinking about making a game with gender options of “boy”, “girl”, “burrito”, and “other”

This is what my sleepy brain does

[verbal rapids]

I like it

Especially if choosing burrito changes how everyone treats you in the game

Kind of like how the whole game changed if you chose the lowest intelligence option in the original Fallout games.

[delicate stream]

Lol. Burrito everyone tries to eat you

[verbal rapids]

in stealth sections of the game, you only get noticed by janitors and animals

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-burrito-ardilla-food-gif-14252887

game over

[verbal rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-18865199

[delicate stream]

Lmao, exactly

But can burritos really die…

[verbal rapids]

now you're talking about playing as a piece of poo

[spice moss]

🌯

[delicate stream]

Bean burrito

[verbal rapids]

this makes me think of Long Drop. It's a physics based puzzle game where you shoot your poo to get into the bucket

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/beckyhabbersberger-becky-ycswu-tryguys-trywives-gif-24679179

[verbal rapids]

It's cartoonish and really good

[spice moss]

https://tenor.com/view/pez-pez-dis-starship-starlink-rocket-gif-25867436

[verbal rapids]

clearly you are not a person of good taste lol

[spice moss]

those starlinks look like feathers

[verbal rapids]

it looks like it's shooting out hard drives

is starlink a reality yet? I don't remember

[spice moss]

new starlink mission stream is on

ukraine people have used there

[delicate stream]

Astronomy suffers because they’re so shiny

https://tenor.com/view/starlink-lights-satellite-spacex-gif-17361182

[verbal rapids]

that's such a tiny part of the sky

[spice moss]

well it have get updates for that since

[delicate stream]

It’s so bright it swamps out stars

I don’t know if newer versions are less shiny

[tardy badger]

There’s some model 3 A+ in stock

Selling out slightly slower than 4s

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[tardy badger]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4027

Just over 30 in stock at this moment

[verbal rapids]

it seems you're right. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21190273/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-constellation-astronomy-coating

I'm glad I got two 3B's before they went scarce

[tardy badger]

Still over 20 A+ pi’s

[verbal rapids]

I even got a few extra rp2040's when i bought the parts for my keyboard just in case

[delicate stream]

sits on chest full of Pis

[tardy badger]

Less than 20 now

[delicate stream]

15

14

13

12

Must… resist… urge… to buy…

[verbal rapids]

i bought one...

[delicate stream]

9!

I don’t need one and I can’t really afford more spending right now DX

8

[verbal rapids]

you need to have an account with a verified email address and two factor authentication enabled in order to buy one

[delicate stream]

5

Mhmm

I did that long ago, lol

4

[verbal rapids]

I raced through that process just now in order to get one

[delicate stream]

Lmao, good thing

2 left

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

Under 10 minutes!

[verbal rapids]

I bought this because I realized that I actually have a raspberry pi model 2b. This little upgrade will be nice

[delicate stream]

I have a bunch of most models XD

I’ve got like 5 of the 4, in all the RAM configs

[verbal rapids]

wait, i'm wrong. i have a 3b. i wasted that money

[delicate stream]

F

[verbal rapids]

I'll resell it on ebay for $100. (just kidding)

[delicate stream]

Guess you need to buy a 3D printer to use it as an OctoPrint server for

[dusty citrus]

and people get ptsd

[verbal rapids]

i have a friend doing that with their 3d printer

[delicate stream]

Wait, how do shiny satellites relate to PTSD?

[verbal rapids]

post twinkling satellite disorder?

[dusty citrus]

you might think that's an ufo, and scare you

just kidding

well actually I'm sure that I saw an ufo two times, last time I got really scared because it was right up my head, but everyone though I was gone mad

[delicate stream]

https://tenor.com/view/skrunkly-meow-epic-cat-cool-flu-gif-25544332

[verbal rapids]

I know someone who saw the Kecksburg UFO first hand

the government apparently cordoned off the area and shipped it out on a truck

[frigid tiger]

Is pi4 supply still controlled

[verbal rapids]

the pi3 is supply controlled, so i'd guess yes

[delicate stream]

Yup

Any Pi SBC has the 2FA and verification restrictions

[verbal rapids]

i'm curious about getting one of those stronger pi alternatives for emulation

[dusty citrus]

they arent that much of an alternative, but they work

[verbal rapids]

I just don't know which to go with, not to mention which has good support. I like the RPI because of how big the community is

[dusty citrus]

imo get whatever is avaible or cheaper

[delicate stream]

Pi 4 is good for NES and SNES, and I think even some PS1 games

[verbal rapids]

I can play those on the Pi 3

The only thing I can't do is use the really good shaders on SNES emulation.

[delicate stream]

I think it’s better on the 4… not totally sure

[verbal rapids]

i think the pi 4 can do dreamcast, PSP, and N64

[delicate stream]

Yeah

POWAH

[steady dove]

Never had any issues with ps1 games, but n64 was always hit-or-miss. The n64 meta game is picking emulators and settings and hoping an emulator update doesn't break your setup.

[frigid tiger]

Why'd they make the N64 controller like that

[delicate stream]

Ergonomics

[blissful roost]

Yeah, the Pi4 should do N64.. even my Odroid-Go Advance does.

[delicate stream]

I think someone got a PS2 game running on the 4, so N64 shouldn’t be a problem

[grizzled raptor]

Ever hear of the Shag Harbour UFO Incident?

[verbal rapids]

I haven't

[grizzled raptor]

N64 worked fine on a 3b. Should work a charm on the 4

[grizzled raptor]

Similar thing. There is available accounts from the Canadian military regarding that one. UFO crashed off the coast of Nova Scotia.

[grizzled raptor]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shag_Harbour_UFO_incident

I grew up in Nova Scotia on the bay of Fundy. I knew many people who saw that one.

I knew divers who were involved in the search. Some of the first to arrive with the first s&r teams. Something crashed. People witnessed it sinking. Nothing was ever found.

[blissful roost]

Lol

[frigid tiger]

Why don't they shoot down any of these UFOs

That'd be my first instinct

[delicate stream]

Something to keep in mind is that sometimes UFOs turn out to be things you don’t want to shoot… like actual weather balloons, aircraft without a transponder and civilian passengers aboard… and if it is aliens, that could very well start an interstellar war, which isn’t a great idea

[frigid tiger]

Idk an interstellar war might actually push taxpayers to fund space properly 🤔🤔

[delicate stream]

Not if the planet goes boom

https://tenor.com/view/death-star-alderaan-explode-star-wars-gif-10872603

[fiery quarry]

Probably because since we've had the tech to track objects like that we've been able to identify them. Hard to shoot down an unidentified object when you have it's identity 🤣

[tardy badger]

I wanted to try out a new playlist and the first song that played hit me right in the emotional trauma. But it’s so good.

[rapid geode]

i wouldnt trust any drunk acadians accounts of ufos 😛

[tardy badger]

Lol

[rapid geode]

i once saw a space ship.... and the science centre

hehe