I could help! Who should I email or whatever
#live-broadcast-chat
urban gale
Knight Rider got a lot right about the future
digital crescent
from tonights show and tell https://github.com/bdsvac/todbot_led_cube
@cinder wind
cinder wind
<@352910176736772096>
awesome! loved the addition of WiFi and the webapp!
digital crescent
awesome! loved the addition of WiFi and the webapp!
like PT says, it's like skateboarding/snowboarding
desert orbit
That selective solder machine is beautiful to watch ๐
sullen hawk
audio died?
noble grove
LIFE!
slow spire
@sullen hawk Some of the factory footage is often silent
sullen hawk
@slow spire oic, yeah, it came back
inner spade
A hot, crusty, machine age soldering machine behind the scenes producing shiny futuristic bobbles.
desert orbit
Bobbles for boffins ๐
waxen thistle
Nevermind the engineer behind the curtain.
slow spire
boffins baking bobbles
noble grove
Geek kitch
cinder wind
from tonights show and tell https://github.com/bdsvac/todbot_led_cube
You should add a link to your SnT demo in the README! e.g. https://youtu.be/w91Rq7ffLLU?t=1025
noble grove
Flexcavator
sand lotus
13W I2S amp โค๏ธ ๐
turbid hill
that is 3x3
rapid hornet
You'll need a custom build. #circuitpython-dev is where we can help
digital crescent
You should add a link to your SnT demo in the README! e.g. https://youtu.be/w91R...
smart!
sand lotus
sounds like a gain dip switch would work. one came with the tpa2012 amp i have. it works well and doesn't add much height to the board (no more than solder on terminals)
ionic garnet
that you can see
cinder wind
@open girder I would really like an adafruit I2S stereo output board that has both line out & headphone out (maybe via one TRS jack)
dim knot
Ultraleap 3Di Stereo Hand Tracking Camera https://www.adafruit.com/product/5571
turbid hill
I believe we have technically two moons, the second is a asteroid trapped in our orbit, but it's expected to be gone in few decades
noble grove
No Linux?
slow spire
I'm sure there will be Linux/Mac ports at some point
dim knot
Tactile Switch Assortment - 25 Different Buttons - 10 pcs each - Through Hole and Surface Mount https://www.adafruit.com/product/5493
Adafruit DRV2605L Haptic Motor Controller - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/2305
desert orbit
:all-the-things: ๐
turbid hill
Lol I just bought a set of those buttons
noble grove
I want a grid of haptics wrapped around my forearm.
open girder
10% discount code, code is: supermoon http://www.adafruit.com
inner spade
My grandmother used to collect a variety of buttons in a drawer under her sewing machine.
sand lotus
this is the 21st century version of that
noble grove
@inner spade Tactile?
inner spade
<@339922377746022402> Tactile?
Indeed.
robust horizon
I took a break to have dinner before opening up Show & Tell at 2x speed .. no spoilers!
hot frigate
Indeed.
When you put your hand in your grandma's drawer, I bet it feels much better than a drawer full of THESE buttons. (that did not come out right, did it?)
sand lotus
i like the 3x6 buttons like on the magtag. doesn't take up much space for buttons that only need occasional use.
slow spire
@open girder I've used the DRV2605L in a ton of projects, often wearable; I'd love if I could break off parts of the PCB for very small wearable prototypes. Just a suggestion. (Yeah, I know I should spin up my own PCB.)
nimble jackal
So many buttons! I feel a mighty need
dim knot
Motorized Slide Potentiometer - 10Kฮฉ Linear with 5V DC Motor https://www.adafruit.com/product/5466
tulip canyon
This slider looks so fun
noble grove
@hot frigate As long as it's only one drawer.
waxen thistle
I took a break to have dinner before opening up Show & Tell at 2x speed .. no sp...
We had human beings showing....and telling.
sand lotus
I bet JP is drooling over those motorized potentiometers.
sullen hawk
Ohh it's an alps pot
inner spade
Doubles as a linear actuator.
sand lotus
woah that's much faster response than i thought it would have.
noble grove
That's really fast!
slow spire
@open girder On the motorized linear pot, Is it OK to move the knob by hand, while it's being driven by the motor? Will the motor slip, in a good way?
dim knot
Adafruit LSM6DS3TR-C + LIS3MDL - Precision 9 DoF IMU - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5543
uneven gull
Does it have a pot for signals separate from the feed back location pot? Does it have two pots?
sand lotus
in the product page looks like the free fall sensor could be really good for quadcopters
noble grove
@slow spire I imagine as long as you can limit the current you can safely overpower it.
echo canopy
@open girder two part question
Looking to take a QTPY portable (I know about the BFF) just have a different thought
- okay to power a ESP32-X QTPY by the USB C port with 4.5v ( three AA battery holder)
2 If I order a USB Micro-B Breakout Board and a USB C to Micro B Cable will the breakout deliver power going from micro to USB-C ? 
noble grove
@slow spire Torque = current
slow spire
Thx, @noble grove
desert orbit
picows in space: the herd shot round the world!
cinder wind
picow pie?
upper sandal
fun fact, the picow works with Mu
sand lotus
Ranch Branches
upper sandal
(it's pronounced moo)
urban gale
ooh horns?
waxen thistle
I think we need more cowbell.
tulip canyon
Mess with the Picow, get the HORNS ๐ค
uneven gull
๐ ๐ ๐ bells!
robust horizon
that button assortment is in my cart for the next time I'm buying something
urban gale
oh nice
sand lotus
Cow Bells, nice
hot frigate
Yes, Bells is great!
sand lotus
Needs more cowbell!!!
open surge
more cowbell!
cinder wind
nice smoke effect
sand lotus
lol
echo canopy
@open girder Any plans on making a ESP32-X And RFM95 Lora all in one board ? Possible to do on a two layer PCB (kind of like the RSP32 TFT Feather)
uneven gull
Cows can't accessorize with anything besides bells
sand lotus
that was awesome
nimble jackal
Amazebells
ionic garnet
Yes
sand lotus
@uneven gull always ear tags
desert orbit
love seeing the design process for these logos ๐
noble grove
Need software to detect the beat and sync to it.
upper sandal
I like the one with ears
hot frigate
You have some great designers!! Thanks for sharing that !
sand lotus
nice design
slow spire
LOL
desert orbit
"Ok ladyada, what's this?" "MOAR COWBELL"
cinder wind
slow spire
sweeeeet
ionic garnet
Just formally volunteered to do MicroPython to CircuitPython Pico W support port @open girder
robust horizon
๐
open girder
thank ya @ionic garnet ๐
ionic garnet
I'm excited!
slow spire
@open girder I think it's "gold plated diapers"
desert orbit
q: How's the sourcing going on the LED filament/noodles/pasta stuff? I've been looking for some for a project and there don't seem to be a large number of resellers on the usual spots yet
sand lotus
ohh so i could make a pr for it so i don't have to recompile everytime? sweet. โค๏ธ
hot frigate
I like the cowbell logo with the rasp pi logo in it.
tulip canyon
...this watch, this watch
cloud bay
Hey adafruit! Iโm enjoying the stream and that new 9DOF sensor looks awesome! Iโm building a data logger with a Nano and wanted to ask for suggestions for detecting power out without losing data to the SD Card. I know a capacitor is in the mix for that solution but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to how to go about it. Thank you๐
hot frigate
SNL for life!
desert orbit
ohh so i could make a pr for it so i don't have to recompile everytime? sweet. โค...
This is in a different port (atmel-samd vs nrf) but its a similar thing - the QT Py Haxpress board def for a QT Py with an added flash chip: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/main/ports/atmel-samd/boards/qtpy_m0_haxpress
slow spire
The Continental (SNL Walken bit)
cinder wind
So we can soon have cowbell noodz?
alpine nova
yep the continental
turbid hill
@open girder not per say a question but info
I believe the connector for the led matrix power is this one
called VH Connector 3.96mm pitch 2/3/4/5/6/7/8P 2-8Pin Housing
inner spade
Q: is a stemma-qt IR transceiver a possibility?
noble grove
Q: Can find I2S ADC?
cloud bay
Got it! I appreciate the answer ๐ thank you!
robust horizon
g'night all! I caught up to the present
inner spade
Q: is a stemma-qt IR transceiver a possibility?
Seesaw?
hot frigate
Night all!
cinder wind
Q: is a stemma-qt IR transceiver a possibility?
I bet a seesaw IR transceiver could be made, would need to add to the seesaw protocol I think
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. ๐
upbeat coral
Thank you for sharing time with us.
noble grove
Thanks 'Fruits
waxen thistle
Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!
inner spade
I bet a seesaw IR transceiver could be made, would need to add to the seesaw pro...
Probably something equivalent to pulseio?
open surge
Thank you, good show!
tulip canyon
Thanks Adafruit
alpine nova
happy super moon
ionic garnet
Thanks @open girder Always excellent show
urban gale
thanks adafruit and supermoon lovers
inner spade
Thanks @open girder!
ionic garnet
how puny we are
uneven gull
๐ฎ
noble grove
re IR: Bandwith?
desert orbit
goodnight adafriends! thanks for the show ๐
robust horizon
oh no we lost the video
ionic garnet
See you all soon.
slow spire
re IR: Bandwith?
Band with moar cowbell!
robust horizon
โ
waxen thistle
That's my life. A big red question mark. โ
cinder wind
aww
noble grove
You've been Walkenhacked
robust horizon
OK now it's a wrap
sand lotus
Cowbells & Noods... i love adafruit.
robust horizon
checks the adafruit store for that fog machine
sand lotus
they have them in portable versions now, they're called vapes. ๐
haughty quiver
๐ป
sand lotus
๐ค
lavish patrol
It's Thursday again, folks...
lavish patrol
๐ ๐
split gazelle
good afternoon folks
haughty quiver
Howdy hootie sapper ticker
lavish patrol
Good evening Liz.
inner spade
Cowbellotron
lavish patrol
Howdy hootie sapper ticker
gesundheit.
lavish patrol
Less annoying than "The Bird Is The Word"...
haughty quiver
That's the spirit!
lavish patrol
Lol
haughty quiver
Weird and catchy!
clever summit
๐ธ๐ช ๐
sand lotus
๐
haughty quiver
Hi all!
empty swallow
howdy y'all! it's been a while!
haughty quiver
welcome
lavish patrol
@clever summit ๐
sand lotus
ahh today is the walkman mp3 player with sd card ๐
ivory flax
Afternoon John
sand lotus
today is going to be a really cool one
empty swallow
:0
sand lotus
interesting
lavish patrol
This is relevant to my interests...
sand lotus
My Arduino R3 screw shield is on the way. ๐
sand lotus
terminal breakouts are awesome. i have some for every board format, just a matter of time before you want to add something but don't feel in the mood for soldering.
past meteor
just got my adafruit macropad! First thing I did was see how high the rotary encoder number goes lol
sand lotus
rotary encoder will go forever
empty swallow
Wouldn't it just go as high as the code can handle numbers?
empty swallow
i mean, no, there's still technically a limit
split gazelle
i've been doing a lot with lists lately. intense how much you can do
empty swallow
integer overflow and all that
sand lotus
i think lists are just circuit pythons ways of implementing arrays?
lavish patrol
Durian - the surstrรถmming of fruit.
sand lotus
nice EQ ๐
empty swallow
i think lists are just circuit pythons ways of implementing arrays?
not exactly, iirc there are differences, Python has its own way of doing things
cinder wind
lighted knobs
sand lotus
great deal. wow. if you were to buy that new from an audio store it would cost 10x more. great find!
split gazelle
amazing
empty swallow
I recognise that tune, is that the one Techmoan uses for his intros?
glass stag
Ya, that was unexpected.
cinder wind
hmmm, looks like it's got a bunch of magic rocks inside
empty swallow
gonna get myself a VHS camcorder with a subtitler
sand lotus
why would you intentionally design such long buttons. so weird.
glass stag
Maybe they had a box of old switch boards and were like, ya, lets use these.
queen sentinel
Isolation of the AC for UL/CSA?
sand lotus
yeah maybe they were the cheapest on sale switches from their distributor. designed for price.
lavish patrol
Walkbeing.
inner spade
The board may have been designed for another product. Adding a couple of plastic bits is an inexpensive solution.
sand lotus
are you really doing anything interesting with a microcontroller if you don't have a nest of wires?
empty swallow
I saw a bit ago on Show and Tell (i think) you showed a Sony field recorder and I just wanted to know what model that was? I think I have a working one myself
sand lotus
oh thanks to seeing the I2S amp on another one of JP's videos i now have a startup sound to my TFT featherwing project. sounds great. PWM audio doesn't sound good... I2S amp is definitely the way to go.
past meteor
perfect for my favorite monophonic songs
sand lotus
that's good to know, i have the same amp.
empty swallow
Use a microcassette case to hold them
sand lotus
oh that's cool, didn't know that existed
empty swallow
I got a few with my microcassette deck
ivory flax
This reminds me of Collin's MP3 learn guide
sand lotus
i'd recommend going with a Qt Py for a casette build for space but not sure if it has enough pins for this project.
empty swallow
I'm very much a vintage style of person
sand lotus
ahh true, Qt Py doesn't have battery charging.
tender wolf
I'm loving this project! Great work!!!
inner spade
sand lotus
what about taking pictures of a cassette tape moving and just loop that on the screen as a gif?
empty swallow
i mean, making your own hi res anim loop would be good
sand lotus
order that from oshpark directly? is there a minimum?
yeah integrated SD cards have their own CS, same with the TFT featherwing.
inner spade
order that from oshpark directly? is there a minimum?
Yes, order from oshpark. Minimum of $8.75 for 3.
sand lotus
I have a Circuit Python example for walking through directories and pulling information/status about the card and file system. https://github.com/DJDevon3/CircuitPython/tree/main/TFT Featherwing SD Card Directory
Shows how to add and remove files to an SD card.
ahhh that's cool, can we get a link to todbots example? i do actually have some junk i'd love to automatically get rid of.
past meteor
I always sorted my mix tapes alphabetically too ๐คฃ
sand lotus
what? who does that no. always sort by genre or mood. heathen.
naming numerically is a holdover from the prop maker i think, don't need to do that with the SD card on a feather
umm cowbells and christopher walkin
christopher walkmin
empty swallow
and here i was going to use regex
sand lotus
yeah she said I2S chips are hard to get now ๐ฆ
integrated SD cards (on TFT's) use SPI which is 5 pin, i think.
cinder wind
ahhh that's cool, can we get a link to todbots example? i do actually have some ...
I don't think I have an audio version of SD card handling, but here's a similar bit of code to what JP just showed, but for BMP files https://gist.github.com/todbot/ee3aefa3c0ef75ce8bf815e8d5e6cbc5
sand lotus
i have some corrupted files, will it get rid of them or will i need to reformat?
cinder wind
JP: you should play 8-track cassette track change noise between tracks
sand lotus
it's from pulling the card after taking a bitmap screenshot, file names are gibberish
past meteor
Does this have keyup/keydown? so you can fast forward in the track or was that related to the timing issue you were discussing?
cinder wind
i have some corrupted files, will it get rid of them or will i need to reformat?
not sure what you're asking. but if you want to delete files that match a pattern, you can use a similar loop like what JP showed or my gist, and then use os.remove(filename) to remove it https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/shared-bindings/os/index.html#os.remove Alternatively, mount the SD on a computer and do it there ๐
sand lotus
not sure that'll work because some corrupted files have no extension/mime
yeah i should just reformat
cinder wind
if they show up in os.listdir() you can remove them. but yeah reformat is definitive
sand lotus
ah ok, there's only 4 files
cinder wind
8-track sounds for between-track interstitial sounds https://freesound.org/people/SonicBlu/sounds/130738/
ivory flax
Maybe add a progess bar to your display wishlist
grand tusk
Position of a playing mp3? I don't think there is a way.
sand lotus
could modify the look of the cassette tape left on the reel in an image for a progress bar ๐
split gazelle
could maybe do something with the samples_decoded()?
grand tusk
The slider from https://github.com/rsbohn/Dexter_CircuitPython_Widgets/tree/main/dexter_widgets can be used as a progress bar.
cinder wind
you could store the length in the filename "TRACK01_4m33s.mp3"
split gazelle
ohh yeah and then pull out the string
sand lotus
if you want a real cassette tape feel then no meta data display, that's how we rolled back then. ๐
split gazelle
audioio has pause
sand lotus
awesome show, great project!
inner spade
Thanks @haughty quiver !
dusk socket
great job every one thank you John Looking forward to this project after you pub it
grand tusk
Thanks JP!
lavish patrol
Great show again, @haughty quiver ๐
split gazelle
great show JP!
ivory flax
Thanks great show. Good things to think sbout
lavish patrol
CYA next week. ๐
haughty quiver
Thanks very much all!
shell mason
great one
tender wolf
โ๏ธ
haughty quiver
I saw a bit ago on Show and Tell (i think) you showed a Sony field recorder and ...
I've got a TC-D5 -- non operational at the moment ๐
glass stag
Great show.
cinder wind
could maybe do something with the samples_decoded()?
samples_decoded is cool (and new to me!), but I couldn't figure out how to reliably compute "total samples" so I did this little hack based on file size and current file position. Seems to work: https://gist.github.com/todbot/170f614963e8400dcc70f9a4675a4731
split gazelle
`samples_decoded` is cool (and new to me!), but I couldn't figure out how to rel...
oh nice! i was just guessing so that's great!
i didn't know about tell() either
cinder wind
comes right after show() usually ๐คช
light stump
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
lilac tusk
Beeps and boops
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D
proper prawn
Hi Tim and everyone online. Tim I hear you well.
lilac tusk
Hola from โRadoโs western neighbor lol
light stump
Hi all! ๐
lilac tusk
Is there more functionality around display brightness being brought to other displays?
inner spade
๐
lilac tusk
I saw on the st7789 display drive that it isnโt adjustable.
Iโve been using pwm on the st7789 which works pretty good
inner spade
Played with displayio palettes: https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/PaletteFader
left pier
๐
I'm working on adding another C3 Board to CP
Is that just an old Android phone ?
proper prawn
About brightness with the ST7789. I did a quick search in projects I did/used (RaspberryPi\Pico\Rotary_Encoder\rtc_encoder_combo_v1\drivers\st7789)
left pier
I have CP runing, need to test my pin definiton and then learn how to add the other ICs on that board to the board definition
inner spade
I saw on the st7789 display drive that it isnโt adjustable.
I suspect that the driver doesnโt support brightness โcause the PWM pin isnโt always the same. However, it would be nice if the driver allowed the pin to be optionally listed when instantiated.
lilac tusk
I suspect that the driver doesnโt support brightness โcause the PWM pin isnโt al...
That seems like an ideal implementation
covert crag
If you're on macOS and have an iPhone, Apple are adding the ability to use an iPhone mounted to your display as a webcam, including a desk view mode (it's in beta right now).
proper prawn
The stream is heavily buffering. No audio, no video
queen sentinel
Fine here in SF
left pier
I had to refresh YT
smoky island
Streaming glitch, sorry folks. Try refreshing if having trouble viewing.
light stump
Youโre doing great.
40 pin connection to display is typical but display pinouts vary widely!
For this display it doesnโt have a very smart controller, the display is a so called RGB display, or โdot clockโ display.
This โsimpleโ display driver chips are actually mounted to the glass on the display.
No really smarts on the display
Yep, have to refresh the display pixels regularly to keep it showing.
covert crag
Try poking it with a thing that isn't a finger
light stump
Yes capacitive touch. Can do 10 points.
Multitouch.
Unfortunately in the current state you have to hard reset the board to reset the display.
left pier
I missed one thing... what Microcontroller is it running ?
light stump
Also seems like when the display is running that it eats up a bunch of cycles and USB is slow when display is active.
Uses ESP32-S3 devkit N8R8 on this board.
The ESP32-S3 has a special โLCD controllerโ peripheral that can do 8 or 16 bit parallel displays and also RGB displays.
N8R8 means 8 MB of flash and 8MB of PSRAM
left pier
Lots of the internet is a mess ...
proper prawn
Ah, you're back.
shrewd mantle
No audio....
proper prawn
yep, no audio and video also static
shrewd mantle
Can hear you now!
left pier
โ๏ธ โ๏ธ
proper prawn
I am away for abt 15 mins. Go to take a quick shower. It's been a hot day here.
light stump
Maybe didnโt copy fully?
no idea
I didnโt load the UF2 bootloader on this board.
Iโve never tried using the UF2 on the ESP32-S3. Iโve used esptool so far to load the firmware.
Also I had to make some changes to the esp-idf sub module.
Hereโs where I put my version of the esp-idf
Iโm not too good on GitHub, so I am unsure how best to get my version of the esp-idf into the CircuitPython branch.
There are a few files that were changed on the esp-idf in this folder. https://github.com/kmatch98/esp-idf/tree/release/v4.4_rgblcd/components/esp_lcd
I think there may be an Adafruit fork of the esp-idf.
Also, I had some issues getting the #include statements to find the right file locations. I ended up making some symbolic links to get it to build. ๐
Oh, just rememvered. I followed some instructions to try and redefine where to pull the esp-idf from. I may have messed it up.
Ok, I edited the .gitmodules file. Perhaps its not pointing to the right place or syntax is wrong.
Can see and hear again.
light stump
These three files were changed in the esp-idf:
components/esp_lcd/include/esp_lcd_panel_ops.h
components/esp_lcd/include/esp_lcd_panel_rgb.h
components/esp_lcd/src/esp_lcd_rgb_panel.c
Yes, I think you can run update submodules like you did when you started.
we should write down how to do this in the espressif read me...
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/main/ports/espressif#readme
but we regularly update it to point to Adafruit's fork + patches or Espressif releases...
You have to add upstream
You don't work from your fork? (Adafruit is usually Upstream, Origin usually your fork )
light stump
Yes, there are changes in CircuitPython to add a new module dotclockdisplay
proper prawn
About esp-idf versions. I recently have a m5stamp-c3. I was using esp-idf verion 5. That gave me a lot of problems. I was unable to build an example. I downgraded to version 4.4. From then on builds OK.
left pier
I don't think you should have done set url
You cloned Kmatch.
You then changed Origin to Adafruit
that seems like it won't align.
light stump
Maybe take a look at the code.py to see the python code differences. Imports dotclockdisplay and then has a call to the new dotclockdisplay.DotClockFramebuffer to initialize the display.
left pier
the git history in Kmatch is divergent from the Adafruit one ....
Can you go back to your Fork..
Make a branch.
Apply Kmatch's changes ...
git checkout branch new-branch upstream/main
Assuming upstream == adafruit
๐
light stump
I'm really lacking in git skills, so my apologies for causing any weirdness for you.
Many thanks for the encouragement. Git can get frustrating. I like the fallback plan that you're following.
left pier
you can commit "-n"
-n, --[no-]verify
By default, the pre-commit and commit-msg hooks are run. When any of --no-verify or -n is given,
these are bypassed. See also githooks(5).
Not sure what the BLE error is.
light stump
Usually I run . ./export.sh, perhaps you already did that.
left pier
When you change your esp-idf you should redo install and export in your virtual env
did you pip install requirements-dev.txt (in CP root)
light stump
While it's building, can you explain the dark backstory of "foamyguy" as your handle?
left pier
Lots of buffering again.... Switching to twitch
smoky island
Another hiccup in the stream probably ๐ฆ sorry folks.
light stump
Back again.
left pier
ads ...
OK, you seem to be back on Twitch. For a minute you were not streaming it said.
Its all good!
inner spade
The hammering is not too bad. It makes for a good stream health watchdog.
light stump
On my branch, I think it was when CircuitPython was still pointing back the espressif's esp-idf.
inner spade
And is quieter than here in the studio.
light stump
Not sure why my branch name ended up like that.
left pier
Kmatch is your repo private ?
light stump
Not sure, how can I check?
left pier
Can you post the URL
left pier
kmatch98... got it
light stump
found it. Yep, public.
Should I create a fork of the adafruit esp-idf and make a branch with my changes?
Or that would be the same issue?
cinder wind
all I hear is hammering. now that's building code!
light stump
Alternately I can make a branch with a simpler name and then try the .gitmodules?
left pier
I'd start form a new terminal....
do the git make submodules
do the esp-idf install and export and try a build
light stump
Progress.
left pier
yes, changing the URL is not a thing in normal use patterns
light stump
Could be.
I couldn't figure out how to redirect the #include statements to tell it where to find the files, so I made a "symbolic link" with ln -s.
The BLE issue is just a warning.
I had to do that with several files, I can't remember how many.
There must be a better way.
proper prawn
@light stump - just a question. You wrote you had to create symlinks to get a project built. Were that symlinks to components of esp-idf or to other files?
light stump
If I remember correctly, was the code I added to the esp-idf needed to connect to some higher level files in the CircuitPython tree. It is also possible I added some unnecessary includes while writing the initial code.
proper prawn
OK
light stump
And I couldn't figure out how to tell the esp-idf to look so far up in the tree. I think i tried adding enough ../.. but never could get the compiler to find the files.
proper prawn
I remember having those kind of problems sometimes with Arduino IDE.
light stump
I think I even tried adding absolute file folder directory name and it barfed on that too.
proper prawn
Some guys that created libraries using wrong way of #include syntax
light stump
You can comment it out and find out.
left pier
I suggest you look at the diff between Kmatch's branch and v4.4 Espressif branch. misc.h was a line he added.
I don't think these links work ...
https://github.com/espressif/esp-idf/compare/release/v4.4...kmatch98:esp-idf:release/v4.4_rgblcd
oh yes they do ...
cinder wind
yeah there is a "hal/misc.h" in espressif/esp-idf/components/hal/platform_port/include/hal/misc.h
light stump
Seems like a different error.
That error is strange. I'll have to check to be sure I did the merge correctly back into the esp-idf.
left pier
There is only one misc.h in esp-idf
there are submodules... yes.
My search is only in the one repo.
Is Kmatch able to build?
light stump
Let me do some checking to see if there are issues with my merge.
left pier
Thanks @smoky island !
light stump
Thanks @smoky island!
inner spade
Thanks!
proper prawn
Tnx Tim. Maybe see your stream tmw. Gn to all!
smoky island
Thanks all. Hope everyone has a nice night and weekend!
light stump
@smoky island I pulled a fresh copy of my CircuitPython fork onto my computer and also a new branch of my IDF and I was successfully able to build the ESP32-S3 for Hack/FoamTablet. https://github.com/kmatch98/circuitpython/tree/esp32s3_dotclockdisplay
I created a new branch of the esp-idf and I cloned this under the ports/espressif folder https://github.com/kmatch98/esp-idf/tree/rgb_add. I had to comment out that one #include and add a linker.lf file to the repo.
smoky island
<@382939733107408897> I pulled a fresh copy of my CircuitPython fork onto my com...
I will try this in the morning
light stump
Thanks for taking the time to try this out. I hope you can get it to do even more cool things.
I hope to be around in the am while you're streaming.
I haven't tried the UF2 file. I use this command to flash to the ESP32-S3 via the UART port. I usually keep both cables connected so I don't have to switch back and forth. I first have to do pip install esptool and then:
python3 -m esptool --chip esp32s3 write_flash 0x0 build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/firmware.bin
starting up the stream this morning now. Hang out here in the chat and follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z3gsKmEENI or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
inner spade
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sand lotus
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light stump
I spent some more time last night working through the build. Here are some rough instructions I followed. Now that I pushed a new esp-idf branch, some things I'm not sure if they are needed.
How to build my specific fork of CircuitPython for the RGB display:
git clone git@github.com:kmatch98/circuitpython.git
cd circuitpyton
git checkout esp32s3_dotclockdisplay
make fetch-submodules
# Also I had to do this, Iโm not sure which step.
git submodule update --init --recursive
cd ports/espressif
# Note: When I get here, the esp-idf directory is created, but empty.
git clone git@github.com:kmatch98/esp-idf.git
git checkout rgb_add
cd ports/espressif/esp-idf
. ./export.sh
cd .. ย # move up to ports/espressif folder
make BOARD=espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8
I got this error:
ninja: Entering directory `build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/esp-idf'
ninja: error: '../../esp-idf/components/esp_lcd/linker.lf', needed by 'esp-idf/esp_system/ld/sections.ld', missing and no known rule to make it
# So I had to copy over this linker.lf file from the repo to circuitpython/ports/espressif/esp-idf/components/esp_lcd:
[mapping:esp_lcd]
archive: libesp_lcd.a
entries:
ย ย if LCD_RGB_ISR_IRAM_SAFE = y:
ย ย ย ย esp_lcd_common: lcd_com_mount_dma_data (noflash)
ย ย ย ย esp_lcd_rgb_panel: lcd_rgb_panel_start_transmission (noflash)
# Then I reran:ย
make BOARD=espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8
pip install esptool
# Then I had to hold BOOT, tap RESET, release BOOT:
python3 -m esptool --chip esp32s3 write_flash 0x0 build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/firmware.bin
Twitch audio is good.
and video.
smoky island
Maybe try refreshing if still seeing the title card.
sand lotus
youtube working fine
inner spade
Had to crash and restart the Twitch android app.
sand lotus
watched your last deep dive last night. really cool custom board and display.
light stump
Not sure why it needs that linker.lf file. Seems like there should be a better way. Chalk this up to my lack of knowledge on C.
Yay!
python3 -m esptool --chip esp32s3 write_flash 0x0 build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/firmware.bin
sand lotus
i ran into a situation where esptool worked and webflash didn't because a race condition to a locked com port was needed.
bookmark that one in chrome. that's the only one i know of.
casa means home in spanish and kasa means umbrella in Japanese (if you're familiar with Kasa IoT stuff)
light stump
How about "nabu"?
sand lotus
same, got plenty of micro's dating back to arduino. i like all the new adafruit stuff being in c
there's a way to do with chip id but i don't know it off the top of my head
light stump
That command seems to be able to hunt and find the right port.
At least on my macbook
Sometimes if things get weird I have to put it into Boot mode (hold boot, tap reset, release boot).
Definitely CircuitPython saving for the win! I haven't tried to see if esptool can run at faster baud rate.
Yay! It's alive!
Not sure about the underscore files. Maybe my mac did this?
light stump
Uh oh something went weird and it went to REPL?
sand lotus
i think it had to do with git but yeah could also have been for the SD learn guide, been reading a lot lately.
light stump
There are still numerous odd behaviors, some of which are captured in the github issue.
One important one is that if code.py finishes and it drops to the REPL, the screen stops responding.
Scott said you have to somehow move the framebuffer and display memory when code.py finishes. He mentioned something about when the "VM" virtual machine closes, that you have to move stuff off the heap.
sand lotus
the warning i saw was specifically talking about mac invisible files, might have been on the build learn guide.
light stump
Also, right now you have to hard reset to get the display to work again.
Ctrl-D doesn't reset the display sufficiently.
Yep, I extended the focaltouch library now to handle this 10-point multitouch chip. It's in the same family as the ones on the Adafruit capacitive touch boards.
This board has 8MB flash and 8MB PSRAM.
Since the display doesn't have any real "memory" the screen image gradually goes away whenever the microcontroller stops sending dot clock signals.
The touchscreen controller sends a list (dict?) of up to 10 points. Current code just uses the first point.
With multitouch it seems to kind of "know" which finger is which even when they are moving around. Try touching with one finger, then a second one, but it still keeps the point #1 as the same finger.
I think I commented out a print.
sand lotus
could use pop instead?
light stump
I added the red boxes when debugging so I could verify the display was centered. When developing and it was glitching I couldn't tell if the screen was centered properly.
I don't know if setting the refresh rate really does anything. Right now there's now way of measuring the frame rate. That would be a nice add.
My edge case on the bubble position has some bugs.
light stump
I learned the Tuple assignment from the pros, probably jepler.
It's also useful for swapping two variable values.
My coding style in code.py is to leave "vestigial" code all over the place and just comment it out or put it behind the while True loop.
In essence, I tend to use the code.py as an archive file.
light stump
It's kind of like a geological layer history of my code.
light stump
I accidentally trashed the first display that I pulled apart. Looking closer, here is one of the driver chips, mounted directly to the glass.
sand lotus
wow that's tiny
light stump
Show and tell would be cool. I have a bouncing box that I originally started with.
The focaltouch library is already PR'ed.
light stump
Some displays use "MIPI" controllers. Not sure how to drive those yet. I have seen some demos for FPGAs that read those.
I looked at some of the Google assistants with screens, and they seem to use MIPI displays. No idea how to talk to those.
clever summit
Lovely. They are going to renovate the building here in a year. Do not look forward to that, I have the office at home.
Oh, MIPI is serial. Slowest speed is 1.0Gbps/lane.
sand lotus
N8R8
light stump
Original pyportal and itโs new spawn.
sand lotus
setting adafruit pin naming conventions would probably make your life easier
i also actually just got the 7" 40 pin from digikey with the driver board. going to run it on a UM S3. 16MB/8MB ๐
clever summit
What resolution is that?
sand lotus
the crestron display is way better. love the integrated buttons in the bezel.
light stump
This Crestron board is 800x480.
My first demo I made had tons of wires and was finicky.
sand lotus
yeah it's 800x480
light stump
Yep, buttons are also part of the touchscreen.
clever summit
I am looking at some kind of touch display for a Home Assistant interface.
sand lotus
i'm going to run my offline weatherstation on it, same thing i have running on the 3.5" TFT featherwing, but bigger.
light stump
This was my first trial.
sand lotus
the touch buttons on the crestron would be great for something like home assistant.
ohhh nice
light stump
Giant mess, even with adadpters.
sand lotus
so many buttons on that one. very nice.
inner spade
Could you place phantom displayio button objects behind the on-panel touch buttons?
sand lotus
geeking out about buttons. this is life.
light stump
Yep, had to breakout the 40pin cable to wire it to the devkit.
In the focaltouch library, I have a calibration setting so you can adjust the pixels vs touchpoints.
In essence, the touchscreen has more "pixels" than the screen.
sand lotus
could do the same thing to the left side in displayio to make the bezel sides symetrical.
light stump
The right bezel (with arrow printing) is actually wider than the left side. I'm unsure if the left bezel is touch sensitive.
clever summit
Ha. Forgot to turn off my soldering station again. Tanks Home Assistant for turning off the power in the lab for me. ๐
sand lotus
you'd lose display size though.
clever summit
I have a Weller station, it does put the iron in standby at 100ยฐC. It does not power down the desoldering iron though.
sand lotus
well if a soldering iron turned itself off while you're mid-project would be more frustrating than the safety it might provide.
light stump
Hakko soldering iron has been good to me. Second best purchase for my work is a vacuum desoldering gun
clever summit
Just slap a PIR with a long timeout on it. No need for a microcontroller even.
Vacuum desoldering is SO much better.
sand lotus
hmm well my soldering iron is always right next to me so i see the big LED glaring at me
i have a cheapo weller
clever summit
I have my timeout set to 15 minutes. Works just fine.
sand lotus
PIR is a good idea
light stump
I probably spent enough $ on solder wick to buy half the vacuum soldering gun.
clever summit
Just realized I am talking nonsense. "No need for a microcontroller" <- Where would we put the firmware then?
inner spade
Just slap a PIR with a long timeout on it. No need for a microcontroller even.
Indeed. Thatโs how my fume extractor fan works.
sand lotus
the wick works amazing if you lace it up with flux first
light stump
I mostly work on vintage audio equipment, vacuum soldering gun saves me hours of time.
sand lotus
i have a solder sucker but i still prefer the wick because you have to reload the spring for each use, and it's big.
clever summit
I mostly work on vintage audio equipment, vacuum soldering gun saves me hours of...
I bet! Wouldn't want to even try with other methods! ๐
light stump
Ooops, more vestigial code.
clever summit
I have 2 PIR's in the lab, but everything is controlled by automations in Home Assistant. Light and lab power. Separate power/light for the 2 3D printers. etc etc.
light stump
FYI, pinouts for the board are here: https://hackaday.io/project/185831-hacktablet-crestron-tss-752-teardown-rebuild/log/208510-schematic-and-pinouts
How do you tell HomeAssistant to keep the soldering iron on while you're still using it?
sand lotus
vestigial code lol, i've never heard that before. makes you want to triage it with a knife.
clever summit
How do you tell HomeAssistant to keep the soldering iron on while you're still u...
It powers down 15 minutes after the PIR sensors triggered last.
light stump
Oh, got it.
inner spade
Iโm liking that screen fade-out effect. Wish that was a controllable option for other TFT displays.
clever summit
PIR is not working as well when I am working on the computer, as I am too still, but soldering is no issue.
light stump
Weird, should be autorefreshing. Not sure what is going on.
sand lotus
i have a PIR sensor that works amazingly well from 5ft away for some hallway lights. if i put that on my soldering iron even a slight body twitch would keep the timer alive.
clever summit
There are a new type of sensor on the market now, based on mm wave tech. It can detect if a person is in the room.
sand lotus
what about some ultrasonic sensors? i got one for a mailbox project but now wondering if i should have gone for pir instead.
light stump
Hm.. Maybe we need to update displayio to call for a refresh even when nothing is dirty. Good point.
inner spade
There are a new type of sensor on the market now, based on mm wave tech. It can ...
Thatโs the original use case for this class of sensors https://www.adafruit.com/product/3538
clever summit
Ultrasonic has a much shorter detection zone.
sand lotus
thermal camera also a good idea but what's the range like?
light stump
Time for โ #2 back in a sec.
sand lotus
23 feet for a human body, that'll work
clever summit
I am just on my #1 โ
sand lotus
expensive though, PIR sensors are much cheaper
clever summit
PIR sensors are dirt cheap.
inner spade
thermal camera also a good idea but what's the range like?
Depending on background temp, Iโve seen reliable body detection up to 3 or 4 meters.
clever summit
This SEEED's mmWave one.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/24ghz-mmwave-radar-sensor-fall-detection-module-p-5268.html
Can detect if person has fallen down.
sand lotus
might have applications for senior citizens.
clever summit
The 60 GHz ones are sensitive enough to theoretically measure you pulse by the tiny movements your pulse gives on your skin.
light stump
About the soldering iron, can you set it so that when you turn on the soldering iron that it triggers your fume fan? Or just put it on the same power strip?
light stump
what board is powering that? S3? good read times.
ESP32-S3 devkit
sand lotus
gives me hope to drive the 7" display as smoothly.
light stump
Runs at 240 MHz. I'm surprised how the touchscreen and drawing is relatively decent response even without much work, at least for small graphics.
Which display are you planning to use? Can you link to the part number or datasheet?
sand lotus
i like the startup graphic idea. your graphic is really nice.
and the driver for it is product 1590
light stump
Ok, you might be able to drive the display directly with a ESP32-S3. I haven't used the RA8875 driver board, but I think there is a library for circuitpython.
I inquired about the RA8875, but someone said the speed may be limited, I think MakerMelissa gave some feedback.
sand lotus
the S3 and driver board should get here this week. yeah there's a library. i'm currently running a 3.5" TFT, hopefully can just port the code over to the new driver.
it's only for updating a temp & humidity sensor about once a minute. nothing intensive though i do have a slideshow background but just static images.
and i'm not doing any touch stuff yet but looking into using foamyguys tab layout to add multiple pages of data.
light stump
Hey all, I've got to run. Great progress today FoamyGuy and all you cool people.
smoky island
Computer locked up on me
Gonna have to restart it. Will call it a day for now. I'll play with it a bit more later on and see if we can get the touch loc aligned with display loc
inner spade
Thanks for todayโs stream @smoky island !
sand lotus
๐
smoky island
Thanks everyone for watching. Have a good day all!
sand lotus
Great stream, very cool project.
open girder
Tonight the Desk of Ladyada will be at 9pm and it's The Great Search - Power-on-reset in sot23-3 , a replacement for APX803-26SAG (we are away tonight, so this is the pre-record that will go live then, enjoy!) https://youtu.be/grSPvnYrPWs
delicate fractal
Ok, what was that intro? It reminded me of Macross Plus, but I don't think it was.
upper sandal
isn't that one of youtube's premade waiting screens ?
delicate fractal
Dunno! I don't think I've ever seen it before, but that doesn't mean it isn't. It could also be from OBS or whatever they're using to manage video streams...
delicate fractal
thanks!
sudden slate
Sick!
covert crag
Tonight the Desk of Ladyada will be at 9pm and it's The Great Search - Power-on-...
Huh, did the regular DOLA happen? Can't find it on YouTube
lilac tusk
Huh, did the regular DOLA happen? Can't find it on YouTube
It was just the great search prerecorded
shadow epoch
Hello again ๐ฎ Tues ... @haughty quiver can't possibly have something I need today.... right??? oh shoot. Loading up the cart again.
haughty quiver
What are the odds?!
dawn iris
If there was a segment on one of the livestreams where the stream hosts had gathered a couple of cool old electronic things from that one place where that kind of stuff always gets put and took it apart and walked through how it worked, I would watch that every time I can. Like a random cd writing thingy someone found and it got taken apart and we could see how the cd gets the data scratched onto it or whatever. Run on sentences tend to be my strong suit when Iโm excited.
haughty quiver
hello all!
inner spade
๐
shell mason
hello
midnight plinth
Summer Mint (LINUX or?)
haughty quiver
midnight plinth
Hey John
lilac tusk
Hello everyone
shadow epoch
Got your AC going @haughty quiver
haughty quiver
YES
shell mason
something with walrus here recently in Finland this today morning 9 am https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYBrtH9XgAInzwL?format=jpg&name=large
shadow epoch
What should I pad my cart with?
shell mason
the walrus didnt find the way from sea to atlantic so got to that yard and land
glossy void
"New version! Works with the new iPhone 4 & 5 and more!"
shell mason
there is lots of that images on socials with hashtag mursu aka walrus
nice miniboost kit JOhnPark
grand tusk
Holy Ipods, Parkman!
cinder wind
Zune player lol
shell mason
MintPark
shell mason
Zune player lol
that reminds me when Groot used one
somehow the small screen could be cool for kit
past meteor
Does this draw power okay from AA rechargeable batteries?
drowsy inlet
โ silly question but can it be used as a power source or only for charging?
waxen bough
Will it power a regular board, or is that just an expensive and inefficient waste of a charging circuit?
ivory flax
So do you get the mints too
grand tusk
Speed Build with JP!
shell mason
the next evolution for kit some small display for get how much charge left for charge device
waxen bough
Do Noe and Pedro have a 3d printed case the same size?
drowsy inlet
awesome, thank you JP!
cinder wind
oh yeah tons of 3dprintable enclosures over the years: https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=mintyboost&page=1&type=things&sort=relevant
drowsy inlet
how would you incorporate solar as was mentioned?
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
shadow epoch
ty!
haughty quiver
Welcome! and thank you!
inner spade
Thanks!
haughty quiver
probably good time for a Julep...
verbal river
how would you incorporate solar as was mentioned?
Basically use a solar panel in place of the batteries. I played around with that a long time ago but I don't remember the details.
waxen bough
Finally an excuse to submit my order with those other things already in my cart!
drowsy inlet
Basically use a solar panel in place of the batteries. I played around with that...
Thanks. Wasn't sure if the board was meant to be swapped out or just bypass the batteries. I think I was confusing myself as I had just looked at https://www.adafruit.com/product/4755.
shell mason
minty boosting
rocky reef
3DHangouts Episode 372 LIVE in 5 mins! 3D Selfie Action Figures and Stormbreaker https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live #3DPrinting
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
sand lotus
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nova totem
Hello, a day off of work yay! So I stopped by
drowsy inlet
hello.
upbeat coral
Is it me, or are they choppy this morning
drowsy inlet
is youtube jumpy or just me?
nova totem
choppy for me too
drowsy inlet
ah ok not just me
upbeat coral
So, not just me
rocky reef
Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters -ย https://www.adafruitdaily.com/
drowsy inlet
tommy boy
wise iris
good morning
sand lotus
i was following one of your fusion 360 tutorial about using the 3D package generator (to make 3D PCB for wippersnapper) but it doesn't work on the free personal version. there's no add-in capability. ๐ฆ
graceful widget
sand lotus
lady ada as captain marvel? adafruit action figures.. pretty cool.
graceful widget
Scanning weatherman Frankie MacDonald who will become "Weath Or" the he-man figure
My head will end up as Eternian Engineer "Pol Ar"
I wonder how long a third party software will leapfrog over Creality Studio like Cura jumped over Creality Slice.
upbeat coral
I'm a Tinkercad guy myselfe.
I love having a raw figure like a feather, to turn into a hole when I make a container.
Turn head into a hole and put it in a box, then print box and fill with silicone
upbeat coral
Telegraph
graceful widget
You win
upbeat coral
Make two, send and receive via wifi from room to room in house
graceful widget
Do a mark Watney code sender
upbeat coral
Send "bed time" receive "nope" ๐
graceful widget
It was always cool.
hard hollow
graceful widget
Niiice. I can import those cad files from eagle
sand lotus
hmm let me rephrase, that movie made hex seem like a survival skill.
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks, see ya later tonight!
hard hollow
thanks folks! see ya'll tonight ๐
sand lotus
๐
ionic garnet
Hi y'all
open surge
hey everybody
light stump
Hey cool people!๐
haughty quiver
hi!
waxen thistle
Good evening all you wonderful folks! Hopefully everyone is staying safe and staying cool! ๐ฅค ๐ฅต โฑ๏ธ
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/zpsxuxsi4x
ionic garnet
very warm here in Massachusetts today
tulip canyon
Hello everyone! Favourite time of the week!
eager matrix
Hi everybody. I hope y'all are dealing with the heat OK.
eager matrix
Cold water on my head and a fan in the window.
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
ionic garnet
I have AC on this floor but not rest of house
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/UTVNUC6L9vo
waxen thistle
Live on Twitch!
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
ionic garnet
Live on YT
ionic garnet
Pay no attention to the global warming
sand lotus
digikey shows nice 
smoky island
Good evening everyone ๐
grand tusk
Busted my A button. lol
cinder wind
dunno why I'm so jealous of that Hackaday keycap
inner spade
๐
sand lotus
Digi-Key's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/digikey
waxen thistle
"It's gonna be OK with QMK."
dawn iris
Can we quote โBusted my A buttonโ
cinder wind
Can we get a matte black version of the KB2040 called the PT2040?
waxen thistle
Oberlin? I see someone's been to Cleveland.
sand lotus
just a matter of time before i build a qmk keyboard. would prefer a full size though. the 60% doesn't do it for me.
good key press response time for an audio stream from an sd card
open girder
@cinder wind that is a good idea ๐
ionic garnet
@haughty quiver I expect you and others here will get the reference on my t-shirt.
Brilliant as always JP
dawn iris
John Park busted his A button cramming everything in that case
graceful widget
could it BE vector?
sand lotus
awww it actually looks like a casette player, i get it now, looks great JP!
cinder wind
so awesome that CircuitPython can simultaneously: software decode MP3, read SD card, drive TFT LCD over SPI, and read keys from I2C
ionic garnet
I love the retro looking modern digital tools and bridges between worlds
shell mason
it also have some winamp coolness on it
graceful widget
Maybe get the tape to progressively empty from one side, and fill to another in 100 steps (0 to 100%)
tulip canyon
The sport walkman is an engineering marvel
graceful widget
it also have some winamp coolness on it
Kick the Llamas A$$
ionic garnet
@cinder wind does it use any hardware assisted MP3 decode? Or pure Python
haughty quiver
<@327304398143488001> I expect you and others here will get the reference on my ...
Rent!
sand lotus
circuit python can play mp3's so probably mp3 decoder function native to CP.
cinder wind
<@352910176736772096> does it use any hardware assisted MP3 decode? Or pure Pyth...
the MP3 decoder is all software, but in C, no hardware acceleration https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/shared-bindings/audiomp3/index.html
autumn turret
3d Selfie on a Shelfie for Christmas. Take that, Elf!
tulip canyon
"aren't you a bit short for a Storm Trooper?"
open surge
Mighty Thor!
dawn iris
@haughty quiver did you bust your A button fitting everything in that case
ionic garnet
"Dolls" "Action Figures"
dawn iris
Busted my A button is my favorite quote now
graceful widget
Busted my A button is my favorite quote now
i should probably make a button pin
ionic garnet
I think people should make themselves into surperheroes just the way they are. Embed themselves in fiction, play, self reflction. Nice worl
haughty quiver
<@352910176736772096> does it use any hardware assisted MP3 decode? Or pure Pyth...
Just MP3 decode in CircuitPython, no additional hardware decoder
ionic garnet
Rent!
when a good cast sinces this song it gives me chills. My daughter gave me the shirt. She saw it about 25 times.
cinder wind
Dualing boards!
ionic garnet
debugging. Yup, that's basically the job!
autumn turret
Didn't work during live demo is actual proof that it actually works
ionic garnet
LOVE
@low fractal โค๏ธ I've been watching that project for performane on neopixels
cinder wind
watch out @low fractal I think there's a wolf behind you
dawn iris
He busted his A button wiring up those neopixels
autumn turret
Cool stuff though @split gazelle ! Are the boards talking to each other or going through AdafruitIO?
dawn iris
Iโll stop now
autumn turret
Iโll stop now
Before you bust your A button? ๐
dawn iris
Wow
shell mason
could be interesting to have clothing of it for background
ionic garnet
@low fractal do you know frame rate?
split gazelle
Cool stuff though <@347203168121126912> ! Are the boards talking to each other o...
thanks! yes it's all going through IO
graceful widget
What i need to know though. is in Neopixel - can i have one section in RED one section in BLUE, then have them change colour to Orange and Purple
shell mason
neopixel curtains
cinder wind
asston == how much a donkey can carry. it's a valid measurement
ionic garnet
@low fractal I am into one asston (a metric asstton) of neopixels with fast frame rate or better rendering always bonus
dawn iris
Adafruit crew itโs storming down in NC rn and the radar says itโs heading your way. Prep for some lightning
sand lotus
kmatch's biggest featherwing so far
open surge
I'll have @light stump on the podcast next week talking about the Hack Tablet, too!
waxen thistle
LCARS v0.1 in real life.
low fractal
@ionic garnet Depends on strip lengthโฆI think this oneโs like 400 Hz or something.
autumn turret
thanks! yes it's all going through IO
Those would be really cool to show and schedule demo rooms at maker spaces
err, sorry, meant that about Tim's project Liz!
ionic garnet
<@829085513221800048> Depends on strip lengthโฆI think this oneโs like 400 Hz or ...
sure. Cool stuff. Just interested in pushing the envelope and getting even better results with animations, matrix, long strips, ... I 've got 'em in all densities and orientations waiting for projects @low fractal
smoky island
Those would be really cool to show and schedule demo rooms at maker spaces
agree'd, that is similar to what it would have done in it's "former life"
cinder wind
These are great docs too @light stump ! https://hackaday.io/project/185831-hacktablet-crestron-tss-752-teardown-rebuild
low fractal
@graceful widget Yeah, should be fairly straightforward with the fill() and ColorHSV() functions.
autumn turret
agree'd, that is similar to what it would have done in it's "former life"
Oh really? I didn't know they did/made those. I thought they were A/V controllers. Home Automation panel would be a great use case for it too,
waxen thistle
@light stump That's some wickedly awesome work, very nice!
autumn turret
No more TPS reports for those tablets!
ionic garnet
very nice
waxen thistle
And same for @smoky island too! Great work to both of you.
graceful widget
it's C=64 demoscene all over
dawn iris
@open girder sorry for ping. Down here in NC itโs storming really bad. The radar says the front is heading to NY. Prepare for a lot of lightning. Donโt want a power surge to ruin the machines over there
graceful widget
Booya
haughty quiver
Round PyPortal! We could call it, well, the PyPortal... โญ
open girder
@dawn iris ready!
dawn iris
Ok!
waxen thistle
Dial the stargate PyPortal!
autumn turret
Oh really? I didn't know they did/made those. I thought they were A/V controller...
Home Assistant is what I meant. Blanking on names like a bad tablet ๐
graceful widget
Round PyPortal! We could call it, well, the PyPortal... โญ
now you're thinking in PyPortals
light stump
And hereโs the CircuitPython issue for the RGB dot clock displays running on ESP32-S3. https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/6049
waxen thistle
Round PyPortal! We could call it, well, the PyPortal... โญ
Well, now you're thinking with Portals!
dawn iris
PyElipse
haughty quiver
PyPortHole?
autumn turret
Round PyPortal! We could call it, well, the PyPortal... โญ
PiRsquareRound Portal
dawn iris
PyHole
ionic garnet
COOL
dawn iris
Shut your PyHoleโฆ off before you solder stuff on to it
haughty quiver
light stump
@smoky island Thanks for the cool multitouch demo!
ionic garnet
Joey seems like a person to take seriously!
dawn iris
The PyPortHole logo could be a porthole with the CircuitPython python looking through
smoky island
<@382939733107408897> Thanks for the cool multitouch demo!
Thank you. Love the dial / rotary integration from yours as well! And thank you for all of hard work you've put into this.
autumn turret
Joey seems like a person to take seriously!
Joey's come up with some really cool products and hacks over time. I'm still blown away by the work done with the old school Casio watch!
sand lotus
color related to distance is a neat idea
viral sail
Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.
tulip canyon
Thanks everyone, great projects
autumn turret
โค๏ธ
split gazelle
great projects everyone!
cinder wind
Great SnT everyone! ๐
waxen thistle
Thanks for sharing everyone!
autumn turret
I've missed getting to catch S&T
waxen thistle
Quick! Replay it 5x the speed before AAE starts!
sand lotus
there's always next week
if you wanted to share something anyway, otherwise it's on youtube and you can rewatch it any time.
autumn turret
True, I just enjoy it so much more live. I guess I could replay the last year or so of shows at 5x like @waxen thistle said before the next show starts! ๐
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 7/20/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/pDd8NUTOTEs
sand lotus
good implementation of smart tap detection
waxen thistle
Calming, cool running water
dawn iris
Now I have to go to the bathroom and miss the beginning of the stream. Bad marketing tactic
noble grove
Trippy
waxen thistle
@light stump I wanted to ask about the crestron -- what would you estimate is the power draw of the display?
graceful widget
so. should i be on the youtube chat or here?
cinder wind
Xpander?
waxen thistle
๐ 35,000 on discord ๐
waxen thistle
so. should i be on the youtube chat or here?
Here, totally!
winged nova
I have a thermistor/humidistat unit with 8 wires - 2 for 24VAC, 2 for ground/5v DC, and then the other four wires are paired into signal&ground wires for both temperature and humidity. How would you go about determining the protocol used on the signal wires?
light stump
<@366059101203202052> I wanted to ask about the crestron -- what would you estim...
Actually I have no idea, I donโt have a tool to measure. I suspect the backlight is a heavy hitter. And the S3 board get decently warm under normal operation. Sorry donโt have any more insight. I included a battery charger on the board but havenโt tested it but not sure if Iโd call this a โportableโ device at this stage.
dim knot
graceful widget
meh, I'm in "Canana"
waxen thistle
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
graceful widget
frakking skammerz
ionic garnet
in Golem voice: 'me hatez them"
jovial estuary
i'm hearing a little bit of audio clipping/glitching, mostly from pt?
open girder
hmm, will fixie
waxen thistle
Actually I have no idea, I donโt have a tool to measure. I suspect the backlight...
Fair enough -- I was necessarily thinking portable, but overall electricity mindfulness in having one running 8+ hours a day.
Or in my case, two or of them running long duration, communicating to each other over wifi as a sort of touchscreen communication device.
sand lotus
ohhh hydrodipping 3d prints makes so much sense
graceful widget
i blame Justin Bieber for the audio distortion
jovial estuary
sounds somewhat better now, thanks!
waxen thistle
Looks like I'll be joining this week's deep dive ๐
noble grove
We all live in a purple submarine.
autumn turret
or at least code in one!
dawn iris
Itโs a scorcher now but itโs gonna be pouring in a couple hours if you can trust weather radars
waxen thistle
Good luck with the Adabox -- we know how frustrating it is for you. It's the same for us with our projects.
Don't let it get the best of ya, we're all in this together.
stiff remnant
chip shortage is my favourite segment
ionic garnet
I do. slashdot is OG
sand lotus
looks like JP's trigger effect box with a TFT, very cool.
autumn turret
waxen thistle
If only all "influencers" were as productive and helpful as Adafruit.
autumn turret
That's it after "cooling down a bit"
cinder wind
"Chipfluencer"
noble grove
It's supposed to be raining here now
jovial estuary
question re Adafruit shop quantity limits: do Raspberry Pi SBCs count as a separate quantity limit from, say, Pico W, or Analog Discovery (not sure what other limited products there are currently)?
ionic garnet
I love your chip begging ways @open girder
sand lotus
uggggh it did it again, show and tell ended and then it automatically started one from 3 years ago ๐ฆ
jovial estuary
question re Adafruit shop quantity limits: do Raspberry Pi SBCs count as a separ...
(would be good to have this clarified on the website)
graceful widget
i just want a raspberry pi pico W
dawn iris
Whoโs cat is being displayed on the 1.8โ TFT breakout on the store. I must know
turbid hill
Canakit has picows
autumn turret
I love that Adafruit is taking this difficult moment to not only work their products to keep the learning going, but also making that process an additional learning opportunity
winged nova
i was gonna get pico w's until I realized I'd need 20+ of them
noble grove
@sand lotus I keep autoplay turned off
winged nova
i switched my design to esp32-s2's
waxen thistle
๐ต Yay!
dawn iris
I donโt know I like the song
graceful widget
i was gonna get pico w's until I realized I'd need 20+ of them
indeed. ESP32 are nice. i have one.
desert orbit
๐ถ
sand lotus
when i think about lady ada or phil the last thing that comes to mind is boring...
ionic garnet
i like the song
eager matrix
Rain is coming here soon too (Buffalo). I'm def going to walk around in it to cool off.
dawn iris
The message the song conveys is annoying but the song itself is pretty good
sand lotus
i had that song stuck in my head for an entire week last week
dawn iris
We donโt like a chip shortage every day in every way but the song is fun
graceful widget
how come there is no techno trance dubstep mix of that song. it's better than most pop
viral sail
I think of that song now anytime someone mentions any kind of shortage.
sand lotus
i'm planning on making my first appearance on show and tell for circuit python day, working on a 3d printed project with someone that will hopefully be done by then.
eager matrix
Intel is getting interested in RISC-V too.
autumn turret
I think of that song now anytime someone mentions any kind of shortage.
Oh great, you just made the link in my brain between the chip shortage, the song, and the "we're out of X" at a restaurant lol
dawn iris
How do you make an appearance on show and tell. Can you just exist there
waxen thistle
There's built-in mic and speakers in the Crestron tablet! This is going to be fun. Home intercom system potential.
open surge
How do you make an appearance on show and tell. Can you just exist there
They will post the Streamyard link a little bit before the show and you join it
autumn turret
There's built-in mic and speakers in the Crestron tablet! This is going to be fu...
Didn't know that about them, but tied into home automation, could be really fun
dawn iris
Good to know
I donโt have anything to show or tell but itโs good to know if I eventually do
sand lotus
banana for scale always appreciated
jovial estuary
Crestron was like a high-end home automation brand since a decade ago at least
waxen thistle
Didn't know that about them, but tied into home automation, could be really fun
I've been tinkering around with creating a home intercom/notification system. Let's say someone is in the living room, someone in the garage, and someone else is in the home office.
Thinking about the best ways to send a notice to just one of the others -- or a broad announcement to everyone.
ionic garnet
You support all the Pythons. Thank you. @open girder
warm pulsar
Anyone remember this week's "magic word" for the store?
waxen thistle
Tiny hot plates = tiny pizzas!
ionic garnet
expander
dawn iris
Tiny hot plates = tiny pizzas!
Finally, a man of science
urban gale
I want to make sliders on that hotplate
desert orbit
IronOS is awesome! I love the Pinecil and itโs my OS of choice for it. ๐
warm pulsar
ah yes @ionic garnet Thanks. I was too busy filling up my cart to note it down.
waxen thistle
I'm sure you've already come across this, but if not...enjoy: @smoky island and @light stump https://www.crestron.com/Products/Control-Surfaces/Touch-Screens/Medium-Touch-Screens/TSS-752-B-S
autumn turret
I've been tinkering around with creating a home intercom/notification system. Le...
Oooh yeah, good use case for sure. And not something you can really do with speaker group type concepts. But also tied in with motion/PIR detector to know where someone is
open surge
Anyone remember this week's "magic word" for the store?
expander
dawn iris
Yes
Sucks that I bought stuff from Adafruit yesterday
I could have gotten discounts and freebees
turbid hill
so buy more
dawn iris
Great idea
waxen thistle
Adafruitville.
dawn iris
The other thing I need is out of stock ๐ฆ
autumn turret
๐ถ We built this city on Open Source ๐ต
dawn iris
Yes
graceful widget
We built this city...
We built this city on OPEN SOURCE
dawn iris
Very yes
graceful widget
i need 5 Raspberry Pi Pico W
winged nova
why specifically the pico w
turbid hill
Sorry I got onto a pre order from Canakit and got 10 picow
sand lotus
would be cool to make action figures of your pets ๐
dawn iris
ye
light stump
I'm sure you've already come across this, but if not...enjoy: <@3829397331074088...
If youโre patient you can get these for under 30USD on the auction site. If you buy a pack of them even cheaper.
turbid hill
waiting on som CP code for it
desert orbit
That scale project is great! Love the idea to make it compatible with a common container form factor
inner spade
IoT scale could be a hot commodity for bee keepers.
turbid hill
so thats how the leds get placed
sand lotus
sooo many led's on those charlie plexes
jovial estuary
i love pogo pin jigs
winged nova
I don't envy the person who has to just stick the led grids on over and over again all day
desert orbit
Iโve been working on a filament scale project with both the NAU and the HX711 for awhile now, hoping to get it across the finish line and posted to Printables/GitHub soon
waxen thistle
If youโre patient you can get these for under 30USD on the auction site. If you ...
That's where I'm actually at right now -- so kudos, reading my mind ๐ I was going to ask if you had a specific source for them or if it was the usual.
sand lotus
i have no use for a pogo pin jig but i love the idea of them
turbid hill
I want that 6x3 board
desert orbit
Iโve been working on a filament scale project with both the NAU and the HX711 fo...
Spoiler alert: the NAU7802 is awesome.
waxen thistle
@light stump I was even looking at the auctions for their mounting kits, just so I didn't need to reinvent the wheel with a 3D printer.
sand lotus
even getting one still need the featherwing logic board for it.
light stump
And often cheaper than buying a brand new display.
waxen thistle
Indeed, that's the magic ingredient for this setup @sand lotus
sand lotus
this is true, just got a 7" tft from digikey for about $50 and another $40 for the 40 pin driver board on adafruit
so about $90 and doesn't look as nice as the crestron since that one comes with a pretty gloss black bezel and built in button functions.
would be nice to have the 7" tft come in featherwing form factor including the driver hardware.
open girder
10% discount code, code is: expander http://www.adafruit.com #askanengineer @open girder https://youtu.be/pDd8NUTOTEs
waxen thistle
so about $90 and doesn't look as nice as the crestron since that one comes with ...
And a bunch of other little things too like speaker and mic, if able to be reached by the featherwing.
I'm excited about the Crestron setup -- it's an ideal combination of price + potential functionality + size/aesthetics.
light stump
This model I pulled apart has lights on both sides and has an I2C led driver. Havenโt messed with it yet though.
waxen thistle
Lights on both sides? Under the buttons or a rear-facing against the wall?
sand lotus
bluefruit sense for example that says it has deep sleep but doesn't really work well if paired with a tft
light stump
Left and right sides. I think with green and red LEDs for occupied/available.
waxen thistle
ahh, gotcha. Hmm. That has potential too. Be able to trigger them on demand, flash them for unread notification, etc.
echo canopy
@open girder Please Please Please tell me youโll make a breakout for this S-35710M timer IC
desert orbit
I love this super chill product video ๐
sand lotus
yup, i got a low power timer in my last order to try to get my feather tft battery to last longer during a power outage.
open girder
no one can say we do not deliver
turbid hill
lol
ionic garnet
this is cool
ashen dove
lol
desert orbit
Ablicโs got an appropriately great rhythm section. In tune and on time!
waxen thistle
so, when is the next adafruit live concert? ๐ฅ ๐ธ
sand lotus
i like this company already
desert orbit
Who needs a 35 kHz crystal when youโve got Marshall stacks and a PA?
cinder wind
such a fun video
ionic garnet
what a fun company
nimble jackal
A little blues will always work
winged nova
audio distortion is back it seems
waxen thistle
There are few problems that can't be solved with an electric guitar.
sand lotus
ah corporate speak buzzwords kinda make me puke like synergized, reminds me of dude where's my car with the continuium transfunctioner.
turbid hill
I have at work those cables but their cat 6a rated and yes they do 10gig but only up to 10'
waxen thistle
USB-C and Serial -- that's a pairing I didn't expect to ever see without a bunch of adapters
dim knot
Skinny Ethernet LAN UTP CAT5 Cable - 3mm diameter - 30cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5443
Skinny Ethernet LAN UTP CAT5 Cable - 3mm diameter - 1 meter long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5441
USB Type C to DB-9 Adapter Cable - 1.5m long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5446
nimble jackal
Culture clash! USB-C RS-232
urban gale
That blue one is ๐ฅ