live-broadcast-chat

[upper sandal]

that makes me think it's unclear if we can use that library in CP

[wind spoke]

Sorry to disagree on how much open source and open hardware Raspberry Pi foundation and LTD. is or as been doing!

[brazen grove]

we can all have Opinions™

[wind spoke]

Anything in particular? The foundation or the commercial part?

[brazen grove]

any human organization is going to be a mess of politics

[wind spoke]

Raspbian they are forced to respect Debian and individual licence, so they are more or less forced...

[brazen grove]

by the way, the ESP32 and ESP8266 also contain closed-source blobs around the wifi stack

[upper sandal]

I was working on implementing a circup-type interface for the web workflow, then Scott implemented CORS and my ajax calls to the API stopped working, and I don't know what to do about that

no you would have to remount, which I don't think you can do even if the drive is ejected

[brazen grove]

you would need to explicitly remount the fs as rw in boot.py

[upper sandal]

I don't think it would work from the web workflow either

[brazen grove]

the problem is you can connect usb without restarting

[upper sandal]

the write should still fail even if the workflow believes it can

[wind spoke]

If you power the device, not from your computer to make sure it is not mounted... Like a phone charger.

[upper sandal]

hmmmm that sounds like a bug to me

[brazen grove]

can you create a directory with the usb mounted?

[upper sandal]

I thought the file access even from C (done correctly) would depend on the way the drive is mounted, but maybe the web workflow does that on its own, or bypasses it

[wind spoke]

I guess the BLE workflow has the same constraints. It is very hard to have two user of the same FS. Need to go exclusive.

[brazen grove]

if only Apple finally implemented MTP for non-image non-mp3 files, we could use that and be independent of filesystem

we could also use a better filesystem then

[upper sandal]

by the way, the icons could be fixed by using html entities and setting innerHTML instead of textContent

eh you know what, I'll PR that actually

nah the icons are bad, I assume they are supposed to be emojis, I don't know what he intended to do there

bot, you are insane

[inner spade]

One-button CircUp from the device home page would be a huge labor saver.

[upper sandal]

I'm working on that, once I figure out how to get a file and send a file

@smoky island try with that:

[brazen grove]

goodnight

[grand tusk]

I'm running out of USB-C cables.

[sand lotus]

gah i'm late, really late apparently

webflow is going to change everything ❤️

yeah in adafruit_httpserver i was just playing with there are 3 different kinds of routes: static, local, and file

[noble forge]

for which board he writes this?

[left pier]

I got very confused by the timestamps in the chat window in the livestream... Wait why is my clock wrong.

lol

[sand lotus]

this is web flow. local server for editing code. it's still in alpha.

so you can edit the code for your board from adafruitio or a local server if you wanted to, eventually, maybe

[noble forge]

oh sweet

but isn't it more about serving html, handle response, etc?

[left pier]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5300

[noble forge]

i need to get one of those

just bought 2 pico w

and now i have to wait for libs because i am too small brained to make them myself ^^

[sand lotus]

the S3 is out and has bluetooth but out of stock, very in demand. can still get the S2 and qt py S3

the feather S3 is sold out

[noble forge]

so, most people don't need to worry if they cannot get their hands on the pico w for now i guess😄

[left pier]

So the web workflow will just require WIFI, right?

(seems obvious I know)

Whereas we used to only support USB OTG

[sand lotus]

i have the qt py s3 and about 90% is there that i need for TFT and my project. i personally haven't run into any walls yet.

yup pretty much askpatrickw, he said it's ESP based but i'm sure most boards with wifi will eventually get ported into web flow.

however with wippersnapper there's room to add non-wifi boards someday perhaps and well.. lots of work to be done.

[noble forge]

you mean that you could just use a wifi module then instead? Or serve it via USB or something?

[sand lotus]

well the point would be to setup a server on the board. then you could basically remote into and edit code on it from anywhere. the downside to that is if you mess up your script and lose wifi connection. unsure how it would recover from that.

[noble forge]

so we will see permanent plugged badusb's people control via network?

[sand lotus]

if they have a wifi connection in a wardriving scenario yeah, just one more thing to worry about finding stuff in walls, etc.. but that exists already.

it wouldn't even need to be on usb, as long as wifi is cracked and it's sitting near your AP somewhere. the threats never stop though, it's always something.

on adafruit_httpserver the actual webpage can be served through the .py script as embedded javascript in a python f string.

[noble forge]

yeh, for sure it exists, but Raspberry and Arduino making it more and more accessable to "anyone". I mean, thats normal, still 10000 more useful, non illegal stuff it is actually helpful for. Such things become more accessable i want to say, which is kinda scary 😄

[sand lotus]

it's one of the 3 methods

[noble forge]

531 issues on the repo

[upper sandal]

yeah I don't get how he includes the files either, I think there is a macro to insert the content of a file as a string, but I don't see where

or I have it completely wrong

[left pier]

From Scott
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/main/supervisor/shared/web_workflow/web_workflow.c#L829=

[rapid hornet]

are you getting a link error now?

STATIC_FILE declares it

that's a link error

did you add edit.html to the static folder?

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/main/tools/gen_web_workflow_static.py

that should be the right place

"undefined reference" is a link error

and there is "ld" in the line

the makefile should pick it up

[upper sandal]

make clean maybe ?

[rapid hornet]

ya, try a clean. maybe make is caching deps

[left pier]

does make clean for a board do anything more than rm -rf board-build ?

[rapid hornet]

no

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/main/supervisor/supervisor.mk#L162=

🙂 working on websockets

haha, I guess. 🙂

Not all OSes can actually eject like that

[upper sandal]

I think I'll work on the circup feature this week-end and try to get the basics to work, I might go to show and tell if I do

[rapid hornet]

nice! it should be doable

[upper sandal]

I started working on doing it from a different page, and then you implemented CORS, so I have to figure that out 😛

[rapid hornet]

there is some socket busy problems

[left pier]

Circup to the web endpoint ?

[upper sandal]

yep

[wind spoke]

Nothing on the router, maybe bonjour on the PC?

[rapid hornet]

ya, on linux you need avahi

do you have a second board going?

the welcome page may be able to still list it for you

[upper sandal]

I lost Youtube I think ah it's back

[rapid hornet]

cut out for me. good now

[wind spoke]

Some wifi could block multicast packet... would that block bonjour?

[rapid hornet]

ya, some systems are setup to block mdns I believe

[sand lotus]

only lost you for 1 second and it didn't even have to reload, np

[rapid hornet]

it should work if apple stuff works cause they use it too

[upper sandal]

did you see that @left pier ? I "just" need to plug reading the board's files and send them instead of making a zip. (How to host it and where is a later issue) https://www.neradoc.me/bundler/

[left pier]

that is cool looking

[upper sandal]

we could have a circup --auto button on the top basically

[left pier]

Very cool !

[sand lotus]

ohh nice

what's the use case for using the bundler?

[rapid hornet]

@upper sandal you can add things to circuitpython.org too

[upper sandal]

the point is a UI to get the dependencies, which can be tricky otherwise (we usually tell people to add libraries from the bundle until it stops complaining about missing modules, or use circup). Because it's a web page it can't normally install libraries, though I'm thinking of learning to make an electron app, which would do that

[sand lotus]

yeah my first thought was accompanying them with github scripts so people don't have to go searching for the stuff.

ah duh or your own new project, snazzy

[left pier]

Easy of use for people who aren't technology professionals is super inclusive.

[sand lotus]

yeah i usually start grabbing stuff until it stops complaining, hit the nail on the head there

[left pier]

do you use circup ?

[sand lotus]

honestly i do like the way arduino has a library manager but that's for the entire pc and not per project. circuit python would need something much more specific.

[upper sandal]

the issue is getting the zip from github in javascript, which is blocked by CORS, so I use a server-side "proxy" script on my own site but we could have host the latest zips on cp.org maybe, or there is something I don't know about allowing script access

[left pier]

circup is pip for CircuitPython

(in case people don't know)

It installs a library and its dependencies.

[upper sandal]

and it can update all too, which is pretty nice

[left pier]

We need Circup t-shirts ...

[sand lotus]

i'd never heard of circup before, found the guide will be doing some reading.

only thing i've used python for was trying to erase flash and install a bin

[left pier]

If this build completes... the Wemos C3 Board will be ready to merge.
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/6256

No circup logo

[sand lotus]

i think circup is on github only?

[left pier]

pip install circup

[sand lotus]

could use his github profile image which is an orangutan.

[left pier]

https://docs.wemos.cc/en/latest/c3/c3_mini.html

<$5 CP board

The Wemos is popular in Arduino land

[sand lotus]

is the python and orangutan a jungle book reference then? that's kind of funny.

right i'm just talking about the circup authors profile image

[left pier]

There are many contributors to Circup ... The original author doesn't participate any longer

that I recall

[sand lotus]

ah

yeah it's just an image probably doesn't mean anything

path/file would make sense

[grand tusk]

Is the web server available while user code is running?

[sand lotus]

you could run it on a different port

[grand tusk]

cool stuff

[sand lotus]

sounds like it could use an on/off button for .env then?

[left pier]

"Not going to open it ... " ha

[sand lotus]

lol

pretty sure he didn't want to open it

that's true, oops just opened secrets.py on stream greeaaat

yeah i've worried about that now that i'm posting stuff to my own github.

thanks, i learned a lot as usual

[left pier]

This is great stuff @smoky island !
Thanks for the stream, very enjoyable.

[grand tusk]

Thank you!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[noble forge]

❤️

[upper sandal]

good evening or whatever now is for you

[rapid hornet]

thanks for streaming!

[sand lotus]

i'll try to be there tomorrow for octopus tile grid mania

[left pier]

🎆 🎇

[sand lotus]

good morning. we streaming octopus parts today?

[smoky island]

Good morning. Yes about to get started now.

[grand tusk]

Hello

[smoky island]

Hang out here in the chat and follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwIPwnZWZvU

[sand lotus]

👋

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4242

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

I saw a mario brothers version that was pretty impressive but not on LCD. The LCD makes it much easier to replicate for microcontrollers.

Looked like Nintendo 64 style, 64-bit graphics which I don't think feathers or pygamer can do just yet. I think most bitmaps have to be 16-bit?

[clever summit]

Hey Foamy

It's 17:10 here.

[sand lotus]

The 2.5" and 3.5" TFT's can do 32-bit true color in Arduino but not in Circuit Python yet.

lost the stream?

[clever summit]

Stream is back

[sand lotus]

and its back

[clever summit]

Lol, YT player is fun. Went to 144p. I thought I had a stroke.

[sand lotus]

i saw someone play octopus that got past 999 and the scoreboard rolls over, the speed goes back to the beginning and the game starts over kinda. so there is a predictable component to it and not completely randomized.

the more treasure you bring back the faster the game goes up to a point, it's still playable even at 999

there's a metronome audio beep as the game goes which gets faster with more treasure

the video you're watching is so low in score you're not going to notice the speed increase which is probably like .001 or something linear to max score of 1000

the pyportal has a built in speaker i think

oh if it's a pygamer... of course it's going to have a piezo.

yup, game tick, clock speed or something

[inner spade]

PyBadge has on-board speaker and/or add-on. No headphone jack.

[sand lotus]

if it has a speaker you can mod in an audio jack.

[inner spade]

I use the Badge a bunch for project front panels.

The “light” version is great if you don’t need Stemma or a wing, like with standalone games.

[sand lotus]

i got a magtag instead. it's suuuuper low power. been running on a battery for more than a week pulling weather info. it works amazing as a low power device.

2500mah battery, got the big guy in case of a hurricane. though it's still dependent on wifi for weather data. i'm working on doing an online/offline version with bmp sensor.

i might get a pygamer in case of a hurricane. something to play with.

any idea how long the pygamer lasts on battery?

here's the time in the video that shows the score rollover. warning: the audio beeps might drive you crazy. https://youtu.be/AG9CAqtpu7g?t=1985

it happens at 33:05 in the video

[brazen chasm]

heya. sainz on pole position in the F1, now ready to follow this very exciting development of a game i used to play while in high school. good on ya!

[sand lotus]

blinka in the boat

give blinka an eyepatch 😛

[sand lotus]

yup just whipped that up for you

yeah rolling over to 0 after all that gameplay was anti-climactic. give the player a reward of some kind for beating it.

rip

[upper sandal]

game & don't watch

[sand lotus]

you could calculate the starting speed by watching the video and counting the bpm of the metronome

[inner spade]

I’ve found it helpful for print debugging state machines to set the state value to a descriptive string rather than an integer value. Printing self.current_state is obvious without a decoder ring. After debugging I’ll change the string back to an integer to save memory.

[sand lotus]

so i took the beginning audio and ran it through an automated bpm counter. beginning of the original game is 80bpm. hope that helps.

[inner spade]

60s / 80BPM = 750ms / 1 beat = interval between beats

[sand lotus]

working on getting the 999 bpm

[inner spade]

Should the score only register the scoops when successfully returned to the boat?

Ah. Everybody gets points for participating. 😏

[sand lotus]

yeah i don't think the bpm value i gave you is correct. the bpm counter i'm using isn't working right.

[inner spade]

Yes, this is looking very playable. Looks legit, too.

[sand lotus]

looking great!

[grand tusk]

Thanks @smoky island!

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream!

[smoky island]

Thanks everyone 👋

[sand lotus]

🎉

just so someone can double check the bpm because i'm still unsure if it's correct.

i was using an online tool to detect the bpm and i have my doubts

beginning bpm

999 bpm

i get 80 ticks in 10 seconds x 6 = 480 bpm for the 999 tick

for the beginning i get 9 ticks in 2 seconds. 9x5=45 in 10 seconds. 45x6=270 bpm in 60 seconds.

i manually counted and calculated this time. that sounds much more accurate to my ears.

because online algorithms are for detecting "music bpm" they aren't going to set the bpm to anything above like 160

[late apex]

Hi, I am trying to install circup but get the following error. "command not found: circup". I used pip3 to install and know I have to append bin to the path, but don't know how to do it. Can someone please help? Thanks

[upper sandal]

hi, what OS are you on ?

[late apex]

MacOS

[upper sandal]

how did you install python 3 ?

[late apex]

with a sudo command to upgrade to the latest version

[upper sandal]

oh by hand ? not using Homebrew ? do you have a link to the method used ?
basically you will want to add something like that to you .bash_profile I think, but the path depends of your setup (and the version of python)

export PATH="/path/to/Python/3.9/bin:$PATH"

[late apex]

python 3 was originally installed via homebrew I guess, since I was running v10 first

That did the trick, thanks so much

[upper sandal]

ok cool !

(I use pyenv and it does some tricks, so it's different and weird)

[late apex]

yeah, I am new to python so learning here. Thanks again for the help

[inner spade]

👋

must.deplete.budget

[sand lotus]

👋

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[still imp]

JP time

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[ionic garnet]

Hey JP

u froze on my computer

[drowsy inlet]

freeze?

[ionic garnet]

no intermittent

[sand lotus]

fine for me

[ionic garnet]

you're nback

[sick berry]

hey!

[ionic garnet]

For me the "ish: is "Jewish-ish

what is link to product?

[grand tusk]

Ah, back when PT rocked a beard.

[cinder wind]

I heard there were LEDs being lit up somewhere

[ionic garnet]

I bought some yay

[cinder wind]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3444

[sand lotus]

if the ears can be snapped off how many can be chained? is there a set maximum?

These LEDs are packed very tightly on a small PCB, do not turn them all on full brightness white or you could overheat and melt the board. 😬

[shell mason]

Octogon grid could be interesting

[dawn iris]

Is it stackable

[sand lotus]

beautiful pendant

[dawn iris]

for multiple characters

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/pac-man-video-game-80s-gif-22223415

[dawn iris]

im invisible

[ionic garnet]

Thanks JP as alway

[dawn iris]

🙂

[shell mason]

some could make packman game work on dotstar grid perhaps

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[sand lotus]

tetris dropdown demo would look neat too

[dawn iris]

snake would fit on just one

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver !

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tetris-t-spin-gif-24148025

[inner spade]

Shiny shiny shiny!

[viral sail]

I don't close the video until after the music stops because that one time I did I missed the bonus content.

[haughty quiver]

LOL

You never know what's coming up in the Lars Cinematic Universe unless you stick around for the button after the credits

[sand lotus]

i usually do now because youtube will automatically start playing older adafruit videos and one time it switched to another JP video, i was commenting on a video that happened 4 years ago and didn't realize it until i was like 5 minutes in. 😛

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 370 LIVE in 5 mins! Droids, Owls and Inquisitor Lightsaber https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[rocky reef]

good morning, evening, afternoon and night to everyone hanging out all over the world!

[hard hollow]

howdy folks!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

Volume?

Both mics

[past nova]

Hi

[wise iris]

good morning

[upbeat coral]

Better but low

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

https://www.adafruit.com/jobs

[queen sentinel]

Audio still quite low

[lavish patrol]

Greetings all. 👋

[rocky reef]

Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters -  https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[upbeat coral]

😱 now I turn mine down

[sterile forge]

good moring guys

[lavish patrol]

If the temperature sensor doesn't work, it would be a cold shoulder bot.

[split gazelle]

could be an interesting use case for asyncio

[upbeat coral]

One servo and a CAM.

[shell mason]

or the antenna as antenna

[tardy dock]

[shell mason]

could be interest to have ESp32 with external antenna to it

[rocky reef]

tsyBitsy RP2040 - https://www.adafruit.com/product/4888

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/l0la59-l0la-lola-droid-star-wars-gif-25932773

[rocky reef]

Adafruit Fritzing Library parts - https://github.com/adafruit/Fritzing-Library/tree/master/parts

CircuitPython Downloads -  https://circuitpython.org/

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-droid-reva-third-sister-star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-happy-robot-excited-droid-gif-25642881

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[shell mason]

somehow the colors remind me the iron man suit

https://tenor.com/view/feline-gif-21386549

[lavish patrol]

Lol. Iron Man with bonus kitty.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-bb8-jedi-submarine-gif-19133945

some have made nice jewels with tiny adressable LEDs

now you need to make wooden one

those can be ears and wings at the same time

[split gazelle]

we did IR signal reconnaissance for this project

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-barn-owl-robert-e-fuller-look-observe-gif-24042362

[split gazelle]

the owls are not what they seem

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[shell mason]

owl the goodness

[split gazelle]

twin peaks!

[rocky reef]

Inquisitor Lightsaber - Armand deLaureal
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5398553
https://youtu.be/cZEPUsIGQZM

[shell mason]

that look like it have stargate on it

[split gazelle]

rufio!

[lavish patrol]

🐕

[rocky reef]

Gonk Droid - Joe Kovell
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5420121
https://youtu.be/jGa1VVizii4

[shell mason]

tube with magnetic connector

would be interest with 2 legs make bubblehead more nice

🦉

[split gazelle]

great stream guys!

[shell mason]

would be interesting to modify legs so those folds up and have magnets on feets

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @hard hollow and @rocky reef 👍

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[hard hollow]

Thanks for hanging out folks! cya tonight 🙂

[upbeat coral]

Thanks for sharing time with us

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll , hoping the severe t-storms hold off for next two hours

[nova totem]

just had a minor one here but I think it passed by

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/u69gu84z8c

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/3jaZUCVeW3s

[gaunt plume]

👋

[upbeat coral]

when thunder and lightning come at same time - it's too close.

[gaunt plume]

i remember jepler

[inner spade]

👋

[open surge]

please! I want to add it to the awesome list too

[robust horizon]

QMK: https://qmk.fm/ Pull request to add macropad: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/17512

[open surge]

cool, thanks!

[robust horizon]

qmk firmware for macropad built from that pull request

[gaunt plume]

this is sweet, jp

[nimble jackal]

POLY!

[gaunt plume]

love the aeron mesh upcycle

[upper sandal]

hiii

[gaunt plume]

hi @upper sandal

[inner spade]

Heterodyning at its best.

[rapid hornet]

👋

[nova totem]

I am glad I have validation to never throw things out

[ionic garnet]

Hi folks

[gaunt plume]

the emoji python in the web-repl looks great

[sand lotus]

ello there ol chap, sorry i cut you off but now it's a British serial.

[open surge]

I'm so excited for the web workflow

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👍

[smoky island]

Great progress, websocket lookin awesome

[grand tusk]

Bugs? In the software?

[rapid hornet]

😄

I'm happy its working this well

and ya. I like the snake emoji

🐍

[sand lotus]

automated secrets file generation, great idea!

[gaunt plume]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/07/06/adafruitio-wippersnapper-onboarding-and-design-refresh-adafruitio/

[upbeat coral]

😱 Note to self - ad 3d printer to UPS.

[sand lotus]

can't wait until wippersnapper starts adding all the sensors.

liz always has something super creative

[nova totem]

@gaunt plume any thoughts to ever add in deepsleep (optionally I guess) for long lasting sensor readings?

[smoky island]

Nice job on the scale Liz. Love the use of 14 segments for display.

[sand lotus]

ahh i haven't seen kenobi yet, thought the cute bot was from batteries not included. i need to watch kenobi.

[split gazelle]

thank you!

[grand tusk]

Cute my kids would love it.

[split gazelle]

hahaha amazing @nova totem

[grand tusk]

ooh the glasses are uncanny

[smoky island]

👁️ 👁️

[open surge]

lol, well done @nova totem, love the glasses

[nova totem]

Thanks @split gazelle and @open surge !

[cinder wind]

yeah super fun @nova totem !

hey @upper sandal !

[grand tusk]

🏚️ just got real

[sand lotus]

library manager 👀

[smoky island]

Ohh Amazing! So awesome to have easy button for installing libraries. Great job @upper sandal 🎉

[sand lotus]

much love to neradoc ❤️ for always putting up with my questions and horrible code

[opaque hearth]

Neradoc is anagram for = Ran Code

[cinder wind]

Neradoc has a great set of sample scripts at https://github.com/Neradoc/circuitpython-sample-scripts

[open surge]

@upper sandal nice work! that's awesome

[smoky island]

Love the way you integrated it into the pages and show the status of the libraries as it works.

[split gazelle]

great projects everyone!

[upbeat coral]

Thanks to all for sharing time with us

[nova totem]

Great job everyone! I will have to rewatch it later with my own eyes as I heard, but didn't see much

[upper sandal]

note that this currently requires a version of CP that disables the security, I'll be looking into fixing that too

(I think it's an issue with CORS preflight)

[cinder wind]

iittssaacchhiippsshhoorrttaaggee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjk9N-D2lao

[upper sandal]

hah, never heard that one !

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 7/6/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/21SsSb8rnEc

[hot frigate]

Hello wrenches!

[slow spire]

Hi, all!

[frosty dust]

suppy sup

[dim wigeon]

Hi, all!

[frosty dust]

(I just finally joined ada discord I'm new)

[open surge]

welcome!

[frosty dust]

These folks taught me to solder and be awesome and love all these parts and I actually understand it now

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[slow spire]

LOL!!

[nimble jackal]

Schemers gotta scheme

[languid lynx]

hey where can post a question for the live chat?

[frosty dust]

right here I suppose?

[open surge]

right here!

[nova totem]

Post it here and tag Adafruit if you want to make sure they notice it. They will answer them at the end

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: spacegirl http://www.adafruit.com

[desert orbit]

👋

[inner spade]

Discount code -> maker budget is now depleted.

[nimble jackal]

What's a tortoise?

[dim knot]

https://adabox.com/

[languid lynx]

@open girder My question may be too specific to the physiological world so ignore if too complicated.

Question:
Why does EOG (eye EEG which can be measured with the MyoWare Muscle Sensor) first spike and then immediately fall back down when you look to one direction instead of staying spiked and only falling back down when your eyes go back to neutral?

From what I understand the corner (front of eye) is positively charge while the retina (back of eye) is negatively charged. So if I have electrodes on each temple and I look left I would expect the EOG graph to spike (or dip depending on the electrode placement) and stay up until I move my positive cornea away from the left electrode.

Video explaining EOG

But instead the graph spikes and then dips back to neutral even though my positively charged cornea is still close to the left electrode since I have not returned my eye back to neutral.

To be clear nothing is wrong with the MyoWare setup, this is how EOG is suppose to look I just don't understand why.

Ex: In the picture attached I am holding my eyes left until I look right. But for some reason the graph immediately drops back to neutral even though I'm still looking left.

[upbeat coral]

Beer and Tech, I'm down with that.😋

[slow spire]

Hi, Dash! If Ladyada isn't able to answer this, I'd suggest looking at the MyoWare official support forums, which are likely to have experience with this:
https://myoware.com/support/

[languid lynx]

oh good suggestion!

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

Raspberry Pi Pico W https://www.adafruit.com/product/5526

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[cinder wind]

🥧 🐮

[urban gale]

I need a machine like that to spread Nutella

[sand lotus]

robot arm + spatula is always a valid answer

[nimble jackal]

Mask! Mask like the wind!

[slow spire]

@languid lynx I got curious about your myoware question, and found this paper, which seems to show your spike/dip pattern is typical with electromyography:
https://www.ijrte.org/wp-content/uploads/papers/v8i4/D8182118419.pdf

Perhaps there's a way to redefine your UI to account for the fact that MyoWare yields pulses like this.

[upbeat coral]

Yes, another thing to buy to support my retirement fund. (Retired 3M-er)

[nimble jackal]

Some recent packages came with the die-cut paper filler. Good stuff.

I use bubble for my limited shipping, but it takes up 1/3 of my supply closet

[cinder wind]

That Scotch Cushion Block stuff also looks like cats would love it

[upper sandal]

everything is better with cat photos

[languid lynx]

No I don't think it's a UI thing because it also happens with my backyard brains kit and happens in the sleep lab I'm a guinea pig at. So I'm just trying to understand why it's supposed to look like that and not how expect it to look.

[sand lotus]

Magtag I got from digikey came in that paper. Made me happy for some reason. I didn’t have to cut/pop airbags like from Amazon. Less work to clean up after you get your package too.

[nova totem]

So much. Digikey packaging makes you feel like your order is safe and is super simple to just recycle or reuse

[sturdy dagger]

I really appreciate the innovations in sustainable packaging you are showcasing!

[nimble jackal]

Way smaller than a single bale of bubble wrap

[ashen dove]

I like Elon!

[sand lotus]

What do you do for strain relief with the magnetic connectors?

[slow spire]

@sand lotus I'd suggest heat shrink

[ionic crag]

TPU 3D print would work...

[desert orbit]

For my tests so far I've only used them to connect two 'modules' together and in those cases I designed the enclosure with a recess on one side and a corresponding jut on the other. Seems to work alright but I've been thinking about putting stronger magnets on the mating surfaces on the case to offer more stability.

[dim knot]

DIY Magnetic Connector - Straight 9 Contact Pins - 2.2mm Pitch https://www.adafruit.com/product/5470

DIY Magnetic Connector - Straight 8 Contact Pins - 2.2mm Pitch https://www.adafruit.com/product/5469

DIY Magnetic Connector - Straight 7 Contact Pins - 2.2mm Pitch https://www.adafruit.com/product/5468

DIY Magnetic Connector - Straight 6 Contact Pins - 2.2mm Pitch https://www.adafruit.com/product/5467

Conductive Rubber Sheet / Stretch Sensor- 200mm x 200mm x 0.5mm https://www.adafruit.com/product/5464

Conductive Rubber Sheet / Stretch Sensor- 200mm x 200mm x 1mm https://www.adafruit.com/product/5463

[desert orbit]

the older 4-pin connector cable has a decent molded connector with its own strain relief though, which is nice. Haven't designed anything around it yet though

[dim knot]

Space Girl Badge Soldering Kit by Elkei Education https://www.adafruit.com/product/5495

Biology Girl Badge Soldering Kit by Elkei Education https://www.adafruit.com/product/5496

[slow spire]

Gorgeous PCBs!

[dim knot]

Miniature Wired LEDs - 0805 SMT LED - Purple - 5 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5491

Miniature Wired LEDs - 0805 SMT LED - Blue - 5 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5490

Miniature Wired LEDs - 0805 SMT LED - Pure Green - 5 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5489

Miniature Wired LEDs - 0805 SMT LED - Pink - 5 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5488

Miniature Wired LEDs - 0805 SMT LED - Warm White - 5 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5487

[desert orbit]

Those badges are so cool! I gave one of Elkei's Art Deco Cat Lamp kits to a friend for a birthday gift (both an assembled one and an unassembled one) and they loved it! I can't wait to see the fun stuff they make next.

link to Cat Deco Kit: https://www.adafruit.com/product/5237

[dim knot]

Adafruit LSM6DS3TR-C 6-DoF Accel + Gyro IMU - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/4503

[nova totem]

A perfect accelerometer board to make googly eye glasses, just saying 🙂

[nimble jackal]

9.8m/s² always there 😀

Pi CoW. It's everywhere you want to be

[dim knot]

Raspberry Pi Pico W https://www.adafruit.com/product/5526

Raspberry Pi Pico H - Pico with Headers Soldered https://www.adafruit.com/product/5525

Raspberry Pi Pico WH - Pico Wireless with Headers Soldered https://www.adafruit.com/product/5544

[slow spire]

Oh, it's a Pic_OH_. And love the PiCow.

[sturdy dagger]

picow is better than cowpie

[sudden slate]

Hi all!

[upper sandal]

and still no reset button 😅

[sudden slate]

👋🏼

[robust horizon]

@open girder What do you make of the story "Companies Rumored To Harvest Washing Machines For ICs" ? To me, it's darkly plausible, but do you think it's true? Apologies if you have commented on it before, the story first circulated back in April or so but is going around again on wired & hackaday. https://hackaday.com/2022/07/05/companies-rumored-to-harvest-washing-machines-for-ics/

[sand lotus]

Plans for pico feather?

[dim wigeon]

Maybe manufacturers could put a moratorium on discontinuing chips until the shortage improves? 🤔

[nova totem]

@open girder any plans for a circular display?

[slow spire]

Ooooooh!

[cinder wind]

NoodLEDles

[dim wigeon]

There’s a ramen restaurant near me called “send noods” 😄

[sand lotus]

When I get some in my cart then Adafruit is gonna… send noods.

[slow spire]

I'm just slightly concerned. But yeah send noods.

[tulip canyon]

chihuly monster - Dale

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder

With limited parts are you still finding TFTs hard to obtain? And it’s it challenging to decide to do ESP32-S2 vs ESP32-S3 for stocking in the shop ?

[robust horizon]

urban legend

[slow spire]

That explanation of prototyping is much more plausible. Those of us who design new products take stuff apart frequently.

[desert orbit]

speculative fiction can be useful, but yeah, not quite news 😂

[slow spire]

It's also kind of McGyver.

[tulip canyon]

Question: (Maybe best for forums but...)
Can you easily flip/invert the IS31FL3741 13x9 matrix display?

[noble grove]

QUESTION: How much of the mail bag is snail-mail?

[nova totem]

It's been a few months since I looked at it but in CircuitPython you can probably rotate the display? I never tested it.
Or you could rewrite the map file flipped

[slow spire]

I'm guessing close to 0%.

[sudden slate]

That's the best question

[sudden slate]

and me too

[dim wigeon]

Probably just the mail from weirdos like me who still like to use fountain pens. 🙂

[upper sandal]

definitely don't send Unsolicited Noods

[tulip canyon]

Thank you!

[upper sandal]

(or unsolicited duck picks) 🦆

[echo canopy]

Question I was given a small Solar cell meant for a security system like blink / wyze jr is 5v would you see it being harmful to use a feather with a lipo to do a solar project ? Will the feather safely go to the battery in low light / bad conditions @open girder

[nova totem]

I have a 13x9 but never actually tested the code I wrote against it. But it should work? If you get stuck ping me on here

[sudden slate]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-swing-cute-animals-gif-15449339

[tulip canyon]

Thanks again, I'm specifically looking to invert or flip Liz's Audio visualizer Learning guide.
https://learn.adafruit.com/mini-led-matrix-audio-visualizer/overview
Maybe best to change the code itself?

[noble grove]

Thanks 'Fruits

[dim wigeon]

I’m always so impressed with ladyada’s ability to answer on-the-fly engineering questions. I’m not that adept at answering coding questions on the fly, and I’ve been coding for 20+ years.

[desert orbit]

make all the things! ❤️

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Adafruit and community!

[dim wigeon]

Thanks, everyone!

[sudden slate]

Thanks all!

[open surge]

good show, thank you!

[robust horizon]

[hot frigate]

Goodbye wrenches!!!

[ionic crag]

zener 🧘 oooohmmmm

[urban gale]

TY Adafruit and fellow noods-lovers

[slow spire]

Thanks again, @open girder !

[nova totem]

Changing the code is probably faster to do honestly. It is right at the end where it writes to the display.

Her code uses the pure python implementation. The native module I made later is faster but not that much faster (but works with displayio)

[cinder wind]

I believe both the CircuitPython and Arduino driver for the IS31FL3741 used in that project let you specify a "rotation" parameter so you can rotate it 180º and that's a kind of flip. Oh no wait I think I'm wrong. (It uses Framebuffer for image display but doesn't inherit from Framebuffer)

[robust horizon]

@tulip canyon You would want to make a class that provides a different version of the method (function) pixel_addrs. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_IS31FL3741/blob/main/adafruit_is31fl3741/adafruit_rgbmatrixqt.py#L53= -- it might be as simple as providing a different rowmap actually.

[lavish patrol]

Greetings, good people 👋

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[inner spade]

👋➕👋 (adding two waves)

[haughty quiver]

hah

hi!

[lavish patrol]

Hoy!

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[lavish patrol]

Waiting for the Bleeps and Bloops...

👍

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/waves-art-cool-technology-water-gif-17231827

[sand lotus]

👋

[cinder wind]

Diffusion Acrylic is my psytrance band name

[shell mason]

diffuse acrrylic waves could make nice displays like that wave display gif

[lavish patrol]

Boustrophedon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boustrophedon

[viscid bolt]

Where can I find the example code for the CircuitPython Parsec?

[wild urchin]

Parsecs are a DISTANCE man!

[wild urchin]

That is beautiful but terrifying!

[grand tusk]

jaggy

[sand lotus]

digital nood

[cinder wind]

https://learn.adafruit.com/todbot-circuitpython-tricks

has many of JP's Parsec's

[upper sandal]

yeah it would be nice if you had a Circuitpython Parsec gihub repository with the weekly code

[viscid bolt]

Thanks

[shell mason]

what is made with displays as some sample have had huge cat

[upper sandal]

and a link in the description

[grand tusk]

hi Lars! 👋

[shell mason]

Lars additive waves

[wild urchin]

Anybody who hasn't heard of the Enigma is missing some fundamentals of their CS history.

[grand tusk]

Looks like the original German: qwertz!

[wild urchin]

Which is fine, I'll talk to them about Alan Turing and why homophobia is toxic to the future of humanity.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/audio-electromagnetic-waves-frequency-gif-15020007

[open surge]

Funny enough, one of my first CircuitPython projects was audio reactive and used pixel_framebuf too. This reminded me of it. 🙂

[wild urchin]

Also I need to link in the video of one of the other major contributors, the guy who came up with "traffic analysis"

[shell mason]

if you want some cool engineer stuff to learn how to be engineer Crunch Labs have box too

[wild urchin]

nice!

Just remember, face down, 9 edge first.

For a Spitfire!

[shell mason]

nice goodie box

[wild urchin]

One of the fighters that the British flew to defend against the Blitz!

[shell mason]

that reminded me of this https://www.crunchlabs.com/

[wild urchin]

Oh, Mark Rober.

Interesting!

OK, hear me out.

Use the Cricket framework to build a robot friend that helps edit tape loops.

By physically cutting and joining tape.

[shell mason]

with Casette player

[wild urchin]

Xacto-ly!

[sand lotus]

liz's solenoid xylophone comes to mind, use solenoids on the tape head. 🙂

[wild urchin]

Please tell me the Blue signal is "Abba de abba dah"

[wild urchin]

Yes, that too.

But I'm also suggesting tape direction control.

[sand lotus]

opposite sine waves is a phase, can be in phase or out of phase... which is how the US electrical grid works. AC sine waves.

[grand tusk]

What kind of mixing is that?

[wild urchin]

(Beats are also how you tune acoustic notes by ear against a reference pitch. It's quite accurate in the middle to higher pitches)

[sand lotus]

8? wouldn't 16 be better 😉 😉 😉

[shell mason]

tape animator of could be nice

[inner spade]

It’s a Fourier sample wave assembler box!

[wild urchin]

I'm thinking actually running a physical tape editor box with cricket. Razor blade, tape sections, sellotape....

Though, I always have ideas that I don't have the skills or motivation to implement.

The visual flicker is the same thing as the audio beats.

[shell mason]

for display it could be nice if the anmation and physical is on sync

[cinder wind]

Houston we have achieved Dial Tone

[wild urchin]

It's the refresh rate of the screen and the scan rate of the camera being different and out of sync.

That was just a 6th chord.

[lavish patrol]

Buzzzzzzzz......

[shell mason]

Buzz Larsyear safe you

[cinder wind]

totally audible

sounds great

[wild urchin]

And you can heterodyne your bass frequencies to get your wubs.

[lavish patrol]

We can hear it. 👍

[glass stag]

The organ hymn of the Church of JP.

[lavish patrol]

Getting a Phillip Glass vibe over here..

[wild urchin]

Send gates for when composed waveform crosses a threshold?

[night carbon]

Wow, love the polyrhythms!

[wild urchin]

That Chip Has Sale-d!

[inner spade]

Very satisfying.

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-rave-party-kitty-dance-gif-14988792

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/fff-gif-23518975

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[sand lotus]

i heard something that sounded like the prodigy in there

[lavish patrol]

Great workshop, @haughty quiver 👍

[grand tusk]

bye

[sand lotus]

👋

[inner spade]

Super time in the workshop today, @haughty quiver . Thanks!

[night carbon]

That is a very cool project - looking forward to future improvements!

[glass stag]

Great stream.

[haughty quiver]

thanks @inner spade and thanks for the help w audio physics comprehension!

[inner spade]

Can you send a note to my HS physics teacher saying that I was listening after all?

[dim wigeon]

Happy Friday, everyone! 👋

[brazen grove]

we seem to have sound

[inner spade]

👋

[left pier]

👋

[upper sandal]

[brazen grove]

🐽

[sand lotus]

👋

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim & everyone online. Tim, I am looking/listening to you on a new SmartTV so I, for the moment will not write things.

[sand lotus]

level 1 tick = 270 bpm, 999 level = 480 bpm

[brazen grove]

the screen is covered by chat

[dim wigeon]

Wikipedia says there were a total of 62 Game & Watch titles in all.

[brazen grove]

the web archive has a large collection of emulators of those games, they work in the browser

my parents still have the octopus one somewhere

that one is a Russian clone, not original

[sand lotus]

stream keeps stopping, starting, buffering

[smoky island]

Stream may have skipped, but should be okay now hopefully 🤞

[sand lotus]

seems ok now

[left pier]

I'm having the same experience on YT.

Seems to have corrected itself

Curious: Should you put all those "waits" into configuration constants so you can tune them for different microcontrollers ?

[cinder wind]

hi @smoky island!

oh I am in the past on the stream

I am here in the now now

[sand lotus]

the future is now

[cinder wind]

perhaps you can do something like list[:] = ['somevalue'] * len(list)

yeah it's the degenerate form of list[n:m] for list slices

[sterile forge]

use a list comprehension which will give you a one line for loop

[smoky island]

Drat, not sure whats up with the connection today. Back on my end again though. Maybe try refresh again if it doesn't auto correct for you.

[inner spade]

YT is alive again.

[wind spoke]

I failed to watch previous episode of the Game&Watch development... But I had an idea on how to emulate the liquid cristal display. If you draw all of the "glift" on a single bitmap, with palette, but each element use a unique colour. Then your colour palette could be a set of black and white depending on what you want to display. Like a bit array. The image would never change, only the palette to apply. Could that work? Fast enough?

[sand lotus]

vector shapes (palette) should update faster than bitmap, good optimization for the future.

[wind spoke]

Did you had a look at MAME, I think they are doing G&W emulation since a few years.

[proper prawn]

@rich birchDevon3 I thought it was my new TV which I had connected to the internet via WiFi 5G. Then I connected the TV quickly via ethernet cable to the router of the IPS and minutes later there was again the buffering sign for a short moment. So it was not on my side 🙂

[wind spoke]

In the past they could not because there is no "ROM" I think they had to decap the chips...

The great thing is that I had exactly that G&W!!!

[proper prawn]

I installed Discord on an iPad on which I’m now typing

[inner spade]

Would be fun to adjust the darkness of the shadow layer with the joystick. Emulate the funky LCD contrast controls.

[wind spoke]

As long as you don't emulate breaking the glass that made some rainbow effect (and kill the game). That is how half of my G&W ended I am affraid.

[proper prawn]

I’m sitting in the livingrooom where I have an airco unit. Today it was 40 degs centigrade in Lisbon. In my car this afternoon the temp meter indicated for a moment 41,5 degs C.

[sterile forge]

41 c =105.5f

[dawn iris]

Oh dang

That’s quite warm

[inner spade]

Doesn’t seem natural for all the tentacles to retract suddenly after diver caught. Would expect that only tentacles 1 and 2 to reset with 0a/b and 3 continuing with their previous animation sequence.

[sand lotus]

http://www.pica-pic.com/octopus/ says you need adobe flash player to play. i don't have it installed.

[inner spade]

$25-ish https://www.adafruit.com/product/3939

[sand lotus]

$out-of-stockish :/

actually i got a Magtag from Digikey when it was out of stock on Adafruit

hmm out of stock on Digikey as well

[inner spade]

PyGamers are in stock, though at Adafruit and Digi-Key.

[sand lotus]

there are RP2040 feathers still in stock though pretty much every other board with an RP2040 is out of stock

[wind spoke]

Also, to stay compatible with Microsoft Maker Code you will need to keep using that SAMD I am affraid.

[sand lotus]

i really like the pink 2040 feather, cute color scheme.

[left pier]

but you promised... 😉

[wind spoke]

Limor had a game emulator (GameBoy) based on ESP32.

-1 ?

[sand lotus]

the PyGamer has 8MB of flash while the PyBadge has 2MB, same amount of RAM though so both should play identically.

[wind spoke]

Same player play again.

[sand lotus]

after starting to run out of RAM continually with my ram hungry feather sense TFT graphics project i'm starting to appreciate more the amount of ram/sram in product listings.

2 player games with ESP32-S3 possible?

[wind spoke]

You can plug a AirLift on a PyGamer Feather connector... no?

[sand lotus]

possibly, good point. i saw the feather pads on the back

[inner spade]

The PyGamer and non-LC PyBadge have a feather wing attachment. It’s possible to retrofit connectors onto the LC depending on soldering skills.

[sand lotus]

that's a really great idea, glad they put those pads there. optional air lift must have been in mind when they designed it.

with an airlift and package bundler maybe a way to automatically download games over wifi... future is looking cooler for adafruit stuff every day.

[inner spade]

I’ve used it for load cell, thermal camera, motor controller, RTC, thermal camera wings. Not at the same time, though.

[sand lotus]

that's really cool. had no idea it was in the feather ecosystem. will definitely put one of those in a wishlist.

[inner spade]

Made an adapter to connect the badge to a feather Crickit for a robot front panel, too. So many possibilities.

[sand lotus]

with an airlift and adafruitio you could put your highscores for games in a feed

[left pier]

I have to leave early, thanks for the stream @smoky island !

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[modern night]

while darn near the end of it, I've finally been able to catch a stream for the first time in far too long. Hope everyone's doing well and having a lovely friday

[proper prawn]

👋

[wind spoke]

One raison PyGame as a SamD is to be compatible with MakeCode from Microsoft... not sure you can have that compatibility with RP 2040.

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream!

[sand lotus]

thank you for another informative stream

[modern night]

Thanks for the stream!

[smoky island]

Starting up the stream this morning. Hang out here in the chat and follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21WixxQ1yH4

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[inner spade]

👋

[light stump]

Hey all you cool people!👋

[light stump]

I heard a beep.

[sudden slate]

Hi foamyguy!

[inner spade]

The shadow layer is a cool retro artifact.

Still thinking about the contrast control.

Excellent progress today. I’m getting a better understanding of your non-blocking state machine approach, too. Thank you.

[open girder]

The Desk of Ladyada -Stemma Sunday! MMC5603 breakout and code + Co-Pilot for libraries? https://youtu.be/0IhSMpJg9RQ

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[pearl shoal]

Greetings folks!

Grabbed a bunch of qt py rp2040 boards today! Glad to see them back in stock

[lilac tusk]

Hi there

I’ve been getting parts are usually wouldn’t considered

This 3.3V DCDC regulator

But there’s stock so I’m optimistic for designs using it

[light stump]

Question: Any progress on the UWB (ultra wide band) feather wing? Or can you recommend a UWB evaluation board?

[lilac tusk]

In drivers that I’ve written, I’ve done circuitpython versions first

Definitely has helped

Currently writing one for the RTC I shared last week or the week before that

[pearl shoal]

Q: by using CPython first can you limit your resources so you know whether it will be a memory hog on an MCU?

[echo canopy]

Question… about to make an order … Do you see S3 feathers being in stock soon or go with a S2?

[lilac tusk]

Unfortunately the RTC data sheet is a wee sparse on details so I’m referencing a similar part from abracon

[echo canopy]

Thanks

[lilac tusk]

Q: Is there any reason to keep trying to design around the S2, or should I focus on the S3 since the S2 modules are NRND

[pearl shoal]

Q: any plans to make rp2040 boards with the module that the pico W uses? Bluetooth classic would be nice on a feather.

[empty swallow]

howdy!

[light stump]

Wow, 10-15 PCB designs this week.

[lilac tusk]

Lots of boards exciting!

[wraith thunder]

Q: Did you noticed JLCPCB shipping price increase?

[lilac tusk]

Q: have you looked at the 1DX modules?

From murata

[wraith thunder]

Isn't PicoW using WiFI chip directly instead of module?

[lilac tusk]

What the Pico W uses is similar to this: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/LBEE5KL1DX-883/6043961

Except bare chip laid out and the internal chip is a slightly different model

[ashen dove]

I have one of them from my A/C technician days

[lilac tusk]

The 1DX module is pretty cool though

[wraith thunder]

Yeah, so they are using a different stuff. The reason why this might be important is the software licence, libcyw43 needs CYW43439 and RP2040 for commerical licence.

[lilac tusk]

Yeah

Slightly different chip internally but essentially the same functionality

[wraith thunder]

I really like Murata's SiP modules too, they look so nice.

[lilac tusk]

Yeah, and $15 isn’t terrible

Very little needed. Only tricky part will be your matching network

Which a calculator could probably give you a close enough network to get by

Especially for a hobby project

[wraith thunder]

To be completely honest though, these low power RF impedance matching isn't necessary for hobby project. It is still going to work even you did not connect the antenna, lol.

[lilac tusk]

Still good practice

[wraith thunder]

The only time I feel necessary is for NFC, you can really feel the distance changes.

[lilac tusk]

So many connector options these days

Like these tiny Hirose connectors I’m using on a project

[nova totem]

That's 90% of my digikey searches... "oh not in this category, time to try another"

[lilac tusk]

6+2 flat Hirose connector

[lilac tusk]

Haha.. same…

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌔

[turbid hill]

I believe the connector for the led matrix power is this one
called VH Connector 3.96mm pitch 2/3/4/5/6/7/8P 2-8Pin Housing

Diga-key
https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/cwb-electronics-inc/VH-4Y-1-UL-WT/16334530

[solar quest]

The chip used has a special license for the pico w
And the library also has a special license for the pico w
So I wouldn't count on it personally but who knows

Course I haven't read the license so it might be "in conjunction with a rp2040" or similar

[shadow epoch]

/wave to Tuesday

[haughty quiver]

👋

[shadow epoch]

If there was a JP's product pick surprise pack of the week, I'd probably purchase...

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[dusk socket]

and the music begins

[shadow epoch]

dance party

[cinder wind]

what? Terminator Block Party?

[inner spade]

👋

Bonus power connections!

[cinder wind]

huh, that looks a lot like a WingShield

[inner spade]

Now with no-soldering needed™️

[cinder wind]

$1.00 !!!

[open surge]

lol

[unreal bay]

take your dollar proudly my good man

[shadow epoch]

I'm not sure you connected enough "stuff" to that feather! LOL

[tidal nymph]

So jelly of the hall effect sensor t bar, went out of stock before i got one

[grand tusk]

Hi Lars!

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

Thanks much all!

[shadow epoch]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

🕺

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[rotund marsh]

Neat product of the week. Unfortuntately, I have bunch of ESP8266 and ESP32 MCUs that have diff width to Terminal Block FeatherWing. Checking out the ScrewShield since they'll work for any width.

[shell mason]

LarsWingShield needed sometimes

[sand lotus]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/196

I haven't used Arduino in a while but since JP, Brian, and Todd get to split a buck from it, added to cart. 🙂

The shield in the store comes unsoldered. Nice! I get to practice soldering. Actually prefer unsoldered stuff, it's part of the fun.

[sand lotus]

3D Hangouts in 3 minutes.

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[sand lotus]

👋

[lavish patrol]

Hello, all. 👋

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[rocky reef]

good morning, afternoon, evening and night to everyone hanging out all over the world!

[shell mason]

happy wednesday when this scientific mission happen on ESA launch of vegaC https://twitter.com/vega_sts/status/1547230931341246470?s=20&t=OpXXDpQzu6RHkjWwBMNqlA

Vega Space Transportation System (@vega_sts)

LARES was the main payload a decade ago on VV01, the first Vega mission. Now, #VV21 payload #LARES2 will more accurately measure the "frame-dragging" space-time caused by the rotation of a massive body like Earth; payload separation confirmed!
@ASI_spazio @Avio_Group @esa @CNES

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 13, 2022, 2:46 PM

[upbeat coral]

Excellent

Hey Y'll

[shell mason]

test einstein general relativity in new way

[lavish patrol]

Bleeps and Bloops. 👍

[wise iris]

good morning folks

[shadow epoch]

👋

[opaque hearth]

good day evr'body 🌞

[digital crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/polyjet-stratasys-objet-additive-manufacturing-3d-printing-gif-13246103

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-among-us-imposter-3d-print-gif-20813168

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ender-oversoul-gif-9900976

[rocky reef]

Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters -  https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[digital crescent]

did you check in the couch cousins for the remote?

[split gazelle]

the owls are not what they seem

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-snow-look-cute-bird-gif-13478247

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-coffee-owl-fall-season-gif-12423703

[rocky reef]

QT Py RP2040 -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4900

IR LEDs -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/387

IR Receiver - https://www.adafruit.com/product/157

Perma-Proto Quarter Size - https://www.adafruit.com/product/1608

[split gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-thumbs-up-approve-okay-dale-cooper-gif-5559419

[sand lotus]

Liz you coded an irblaster from scratch? Bravo.

[shell mason]

sometimes you could also make ball like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LARES_(satellite)#/media/File:LARESball_public.JPG

[rocky reef]

Mini Arcade Button with LED - https://www.adafruit.com/product/3429

[sand lotus]

The remote to my wall AC unit died and I got a replacement online, if I’d known about this I probably would have tried making my own. Awesome project.

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-gif-18640778

[sand lotus]

I’ve been going all CP 8.0 lately, haven’t run into any issues.

It is an owl, so how about an audio hoot when activated. 😁

[shadow epoch]

Really cool

[rocky reef]

CAD Files on Printables - https://www.printables.com/model/241268-owl-ir-led-tv-remote

[queen sentinel]

What nozzle and bed temps do you generally use for PLA and PLA+
Thanks for your great shows!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-cute-peekaboo-gif-7184876

[lavish patrol]

The owl has a slight Totoro look about him.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hoot-hoot-owl-fly-gif-16878437

that have some one of cool owl look design

[past nova]

Hey

Better late than never 😊

[split gazelle]

some codes are online for more common brands

[sand lotus]

Could just brute force through all known ir combinations?

Very cool case design.

Wood looks like old beach wood or sandalwood. Neat filament.

[shell mason]

we are groot

[lavish patrol]

OwlGroot

[shell mason]

hehe andy

OwlarsGroot perhaps too for John

[sand lotus]

Whenever I see a tractor now I almost expect it to be towing a Russian tank.

[shell mason]

tractor to rails

[rocky reef]

rainbow pla https://amzn.to/3PmwMIK

dark wood pla https://amzn.to/3yFvbHc

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-train-flying-train-time-machine-doc-brown-gif-18326949

[rocky reef]

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:1043806 three button footswitch

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-printing/yet-another-keyblade

https://www.printables.com/model/17537-infinity-cube/comments/301425 infinity cube

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:1041308 led matrix hourglass

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5422956 pi zero case remix

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5420702 darksaber remix speaker holder

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5420684 heat set remix

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5419907 iphone case remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8dekp2AssM midi fighter story

[sand lotus]

Still here

[lavish patrol]

We're still here...

[queen sentinel]

You're OK

[lavish patrol]

@hard hollow and @rocky reef - stuck in the livestream forever. 😉

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for sharing your time with us.

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[split gazelle]

great show guys!

[sand lotus]

Umm Tim streams on saturdays with deep dive.

[lavish patrol]

Great show again, guys. 👍

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks, see ya later tonight!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks cya tonight! 😄

[sand lotus]

👋

[past nova]

Great show

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/fh6qmbtq3e

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/w91Rq7ffLLU

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

[sand lotus]

👋

[haughty quiver]

Hi!

[nova totem]

Good evening all

[smoky island]

👋

[nova totem]

If anyone gets the chance, visit the Thief River Falls area. It is really amazing (okay avoid visiting in the winter)

[haughty quiver]

Where's the challenge in that @nova totem ?! 🙂

[nova totem]

Well then at least bring a lot of hot chocolate

[open surge]

👋

[haughty quiver]

Perfect.

[ionic garnet]

Hi everyone

[noble grove]

Do the boxes move?

[smoky island]

Love the conveyor parade float.

[sand lotus]

they got the V2 working with CP today! what a great day! 🎉 🎉 🎉

[nimble jackal]

Live demo... Success!

[ionic garnet]

I like the network labeled -secret!

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[smoky island]

Awesome progress on ESP32 support! Great job and thank you @robust horizon and @paper peak

[ionic garnet]

nice work on that @robust horizon and @paper peak

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

probably more ESP32 classic than the S2 or S3. i mean like 7 years of ESP32's before the S2 came out.

[ionic garnet]

NICE!

[robust horizon]

Thanks y'all

also owls are super cool N+P 🙂

[sand lotus]

great job jepler! that's awesome news. finally the ESP32 brought up to the level of the new S2/S3's. actually huge news. 🙂

[robust horizon]

you can check out the pull request here: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/6571 for esp32 support

[haughty quiver]

ooh i like the idea of a big, obvious mute button for the home theater...

[ionic garnet]

Yes or an emergency power down

I need that sometimes when I have miswired or whatever truggers a short circuit

[nimble jackal]

Now we need an IR remote with mechanical shutters instead blinking pulses.🤫

[robust horizon]

I think some real owls are jerks like that too

[ionic garnet]

I have it over WiFi so IR isn't needed. But if it looked like an Owl 🦉

[nimble jackal]

Chaos Owl

[ionic garnet]

WOO. Which Owls?

[sand lotus]

looking forward to JP's stream on a SD Casette

[waxen thistle]

If the owl plays music, are they the Who?

[ionic garnet]

I want to something like this @haughty quiver and also interface with this Sony Walkman I have that uses the minidisk format. I have some good Broadway bootlegs of Rent, JCS, Hedwig, and other various rock oriented shows. Didn;t boot them myself cuz I was friends with the crew who may have been who I got them from!

The Sony device works as good as it did the day I bought probably 20-25 years ago

[robust horizon]

to turn anything into a musical instrument, just give it to liz

[ionic garnet]

Sounds like a new cereal commercial, "Get Liz to code it, she'll code anything musical"

sometimes quantizing is a life saver and other times it can suck the humanity out of music if misused

[nova totem]

Well now Scott showed his IP to everyone in the world!

[ionic garnet]

You are looking great for a new dad of a kiddo @rapid hornet

[sand lotus]

will be good to know the ip of the device so when multiple devices get supported will be easy to differentiate them. 🙂

[ionic garnet]

I got bring it up on my assort Adafruit ESP32 boards

WOW

I have a ton of that board

the tft

[sand lotus]

@rapid hornet sweet!

[inner spade]

Great progress!

[rapid hornet]

thanks @ionic garnet!

[ionic garnet]

Wicked cool Scott. A great new pattern for bring up. @rapid hornet

[robust horizon]

interesting problem, I can't seem to open ".env" in thonny on the CP device

[waxen thistle]

@cinder wind Your LED borg cubes are multiplying. 🧊

[cinder wind]

woohoo!

[ionic garnet]

All good stuff

[nimble jackal]

LED cubes are cool. WiFi LED cubes are next level

[nova totem]

Can never have too many LED cubes

[ionic garnet]

i plan on buying new Cruality. My first 3D printer

[smoky island]

Nice job Brent. love the clock with extra information added to it!

[ionic garnet]

everything was great as usual!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks for sharing everyone

[sand lotus]

very pretty neopixel cube.

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for sharing everyone! Y'all make the world a better place!

[ionic garnet]

now I have 11 minutes

[open surge]

thanks everyone, nice show!

[ionic garnet]

what to do? go find my esp32 box of goodness

[sand lotus]

it's a chip shortage, it's a chip shortage, every day, in every way.

[nova totem]

Great projects all

[cinder wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjk9N-D2lao

[sand lotus]

great point RichSad. with the chip shortage revitalizing the ESP32 by getting it to finally run Circuit Python is a big deal.

[ionic garnet]

Chip shortange, bandwidth shortage, talent shortage, employer shortages, reasonable people shorages... This are the things we work through everyday as techno;ogists. I told one engineer working for me once who was whining about a shortage of resource and I remember saying "basically, working through these issues and still producing a quality product in a reasonable market window IS THE JOB." That was about 35 years ago. He's a superstar now. Not saying I did that... Not not saying either 😉

[sand lotus]

a 4 bga 👀

[waxen thistle]

I've said, in various ways along the way...

"If the job was easy, someone else would have done it. They wouldn't need us to do it. Our entire point is to handle the cruft that they can't be bothered to do."

[open girder]

no sense wishing the ocean to be calm, may has well learn to surf and make some friends along the way 🙂

[ionic garnet]

I was very kind and offered supportive ideas on where to start. It wasn't harsh feedback, especially not to a noob just figuring out where he fit on the team/product/company

[open girder]

usually one cannot change life events or things like the shortage we are in, but we can all change how we react, respond, and treat one another, that's been a good way to get through many things lately 🙂

[waxen thistle]

And if we make a habit of tackling challenges gracefully and successfully -- time and time again -- things seem to get a lot easier as you go along.

[ionic garnet]

Exactly. We say it in many ways. It's part of teaching out of the box thinking and creative problem solving. The trait of dealing with this will build valuable career skills.

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 7/13/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/xTTMI12n6OA

[sick berry]

it's that time of the week

[waxen thistle]

Tackle the hard things with enthusiasm.

[ionic garnet]

if everyone would just use basic civility and mutual respect we could solve more problems more quickly. Totally agree with you

I'm probably going to be in Queens Saturday

[cinder wind]

nothing like a good 'henge

[waxen thistle]

We love them, Vampires hate'em.

Unless they're a sparkly kind of vampire.

[ionic garnet]

I tell people all the time I love challenges and turn them into opportunities

Hundreds of engineers who work in our company hear me say that every meeting

[slow spire]

hi, all!

[waxen thistle]

Have the pleas from the Chip Shortages segment gotten positive results?

https://www.adafruit.com/free

https://www.adafruit.com/shipping

[ionic garnet]

@open girder a thought/suggestion: I understand why you include a recap of Show and tell so the videos stand alone or for ppl who missed it, but you could omit this because most of us were here. You'd gain a few minutes for some brilliant insight or product demos! Soft suggestions, I don't mind it the it is.

I had to go to Amazon to get a CPX a while ago. They marked it up a tad!

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-set-up-2-factor-authentication-on-adafruit

2FA + password manager = good practices

[ionic garnet]

I think I need to change the email the announcements of window of avail of Pico W and rpi. I never see them in time!

[waxen thistle]

Tonight's code:

SUPERMOON

🌕

[ionic garnet]

"This is one of them" !!!!!

[hot frigate]

My company is doing a Pinewood Derby competition at the company picnic. I was thinking about bringing back my camera car, but I'd really like to upgrade it to a Pi Zero 2. It's Wed and Thurs that you do the Pis??

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: supermoon http://www.adafruit.com

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[desert orbit]

👋 🙂

[slow spire]

A Digi-Key Parade?! I'm imagining Blinka, Adabot, and friends on an Adafruit float!

[ionic garnet]

@open girder PT, it's nt obvious to get to New Products on webn site right now. Or I'm a dummy. Either are likely and both possible

[waxen thistle]

I'd enjoy the day when there's a giant Adabot balloon during Macy's Turkey Day Parade.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/new

[slow spire]

@waxen thistle That should really be a thing!

[turbid hill]

@open girder that power connector for the LED rgb matrix I believe is this one
https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/cwb-electronics-inc/VH-4Y-1-UL-WT/16334530
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/330406870256975873/995889680757305415/unknown.png

[waxen thistle]

What's new in the black bar 🙂

[ionic garnet]

what time in ET?

[waxen thistle]

That's no moon. That's a space sta.....wait, no. That's actually a moon. Move along, move along.

[turbid hill]

lol

[ionic garnet]

CircuitPython day is a joyous day in my life

[open surge]

I'm looking forward to it

[waxen thistle]

We need to use more carrots while burying the sticks.

[ionic garnet]

@open girder PT sorry to bother you but I want to give Adafruit the feedback. On Chrome, on my M1 Mac, the sales process UX is broken in many ways . Will try on Safari or Chromium on RPi but the flow is not allowing certain navigation tasks

Worked fine in Safari

Chrome messes up a lot on my Mac.

If I close it the site woould probably work fine

these images blew my mind this week

[slow spire]

Um… why are they using a star filter on the stars? Is that for the gram?

[tulip canyon]

If gravity can bend light, then light must have mass!

[ionic garnet]

This is so deep

[cinder wind]

I'm on Brave (Chrome-based) on M1 Mac and works fine. Perhaps your Chrome install or setup is screwy? You could try Chrome Canary to get a fresh config

[ionic garnet]

and we are all together

[turbid hill]

The mass in that pic is a particular galaxy cluster

[ionic garnet]

just Chrome state. My M1 mac doesn't like all the things I do to it

[cinder wind]

JWST images are max awesome

[desert orbit]

those JWST images are amazing 😍 🌌

[waxen thistle]

JWST is just getting started.

[turbid hill]

some of that orange curves on both sides is the same galaxy just seen from two different paths the light traveled

[ionic garnet]

I am going to get a newer one. This is 1st generation MacBook Air M1 11. It's cool but not up to Mac usual solidity

[jovial estuary]

star filter? probably diffraction artifacts from the telescope structure

[waxen thistle]

You take the high road, I'll take the low road....

[turbid hill]

lol

[ionic garnet]

this is like my favorite song

[desert orbit]

catchiest, saddest song ever. 💃

[waxen thistle]

Lack of humidity sensors make my hair frizzy.

[slow spire]

"I'm still a perfectly good camera. But you leave me on the shelf." -- Hubble, probably

[waxen thistle]

Wish upon a supermoon.

[ionic garnet]

Comfirmed shopping experiece working fine except on my active instance of chrome on one mac

[cinder wind]

Wish upon a STar

[sand lotus]

Q: Got a 16MB flash chip S25FL128LAGMFM010 by Cypress on DigiKey. It's IC FLASH 128MBIT SPI/QUAD 8SOIC. Plan is to upgrade the flash size on my nrf52840 sense. What's involved with adding support for the flash chip in the circuit python /ports/nrf52/boards/ for it? Will I have to custom compile Circuit Python if I add an unsupported chip? Only one in the mpconfigboard.mk for the feather sense is the GD25Q16C. Checked the datasheet and as far as I can tell it's a standard pinout for 8-SOIC flash and should be hardware compatible. Is it as simple as adding the chip id in the mpconfigboard.mk?

[slow spire]

Jingle all the things.

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com/

[ionic garnet]

those CTO jobs are dead end. There's nothing to long for! jk

[slow spire]

wait… there's new Fritzing code? kinda shocked

[sullen hawk]

ohhhhh fritzing

[ionic garnet]

Confirmed: restarting Chrome solved it. But it really broke shopping so maybe there's a code path?

adafruit web site ^^^^

[dim knot]

Installing the Mu Editor https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/installing-mu-editor

[turbid hill]

could be what chrome cached

[open surge]

That was a fun episode, thanks for the mention

[turbid hill]

I have seen this before

[ionic garnet]

Yes

[urban gale]

I like "thinkerer"

[slow spire]

LOL!

[dusk socket]

boffens

[cinder wind]

"boffin"

[ionic garnet]

yes. I have had an unreasonable number of instabilities on Chrome on this M1

[turbid hill]

Many boffins sacerficed their lives to get those plans

[waxen thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boffin#:~:text=Boffin is a British slang,%2C egghead%2C geek or spod.

[ionic garnet]

Guru Sir EVAN