live-broadcast-chat

[nimble jackal]

Cyborg Scalpers

[ionic garnet]

Scalping Borg brains

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you most excellent folks, makers, robots, and time travelers!

[nimble jackal]

Hugs in letter form

[ionic garnet]

You all are leaders. That's why we're all here

[desert orbit]

missed the first parts of show and tell but the lego LED panel was genius!

[waxen thistle]

Sonar? (in a Scottish+Russian accent)...."One ping."

[viral sail]

Adabox Sprummer Edition

[wild urchin]

Sphere is about finding an artifact that allows people to change reality by the power of imagination

[cinder wind]

Oh I have a sort of Time Travel related bit of trivia for today "Today is the birthday of world-renowned Objective-C programmer @timberners_lee who, in late 1990, developed an early prototype of Safari, running on an early prototype of macOS X." -- https://twitter.com/MarkKriegsman/status/1534532596377468928

Mark Kriegsman (@MarkKriegsman)

Today is the birthday of world-renowned Objective-C programmer @timberners_lee who, in late 1990, developed an early prototype of Safari, running on an early prototype of macOS X.

Twitter · Jun 8, 2022, 1:47 PM

[wild urchin]

:keanuwhoa:

[cinder wind]

Tim Berners-Lee also invented something called "HTTP" and "the Web", whatever that is

[waxen thistle]

Spinning fans for air circulation + showtime performers?

[desert orbit]

so weird to see spinning ceiling fans like that on a subway car! but i bet they're pretty darn effective

[brazen quail]

Bone rumbler.

[urban gale]

watch your fingers

[waxen thistle]

some serious torque in that fan

Old IRT cars will Empire Strikes Back that hand. 🖐️ Keep hands inside the car at all times.

[dim knot]

https://jobs.adafruit.com/

[wild urchin]

Watch your fingers being left behind! Yikes!

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/newsletter

[wild urchin]

I will have to look at how they are getting the speed up in 3.11

[waxen thistle]

I seriously love the Clue. The screen makes it so convenient.

[wild urchin]

Have to get one

[waxen thistle]

@open girder Question reposted from Twitch chat:

DzSteve: Hi! some questions: 1) When do you see the Pi shortage ending? 2) Why aren't there any decent low cost indoor positioning sensors/methods?

[desert orbit]

Screen, buttons, sensors, stemma-qt, 2-pin JST plug for power, easy-to-break-out-if-you-need-it micro:bit pins... I find myself reaching for the clue almost every time I need to prototype an idea 😄

[dim knot]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/06/07/series-b-funding-round-of-32-million-for-arduino/

[urban gale]

whoa that is huge

[waxen thistle]

I keep a CLUE and a CPExpress (just because I have a handful of them) in my maker bag, just in case I need a quick microcontroller to prototype an idea on.

[cinder wind]

I wonder how Arduino's Open Source roots will conflict (or not) with all this Enterprise stuff (yeah what pt just said)

[waxen thistle]

.....I need that HDMI cheatsheet. ❤️

https://learn.adafruit.com/understanding-hdmi-cable-types-pitfalls-and-more

[open girder]

@cinder wind so far the arduino pro line is not open-source

so we'll see if that is the new way they are doing things

[cinder wind]

yeah... sigh

[desert orbit]

for me its a clue and a QTPy RP2040 for things that benefit from PIO (mostly for precise timing on some bit-banging things). Love the 'Playgrounds too though!

[open girder]

@cinder wind yah ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2021/07/07/arduino-pro-hardware-is-not-open-source-hardware

so! we'll see

the good news is... adafruit is open-source, always will be!

[waxen thistle]

I need to nab some QTPys eventually -- I've been handling other projects & things lately, and I have a backlog of new things to try out with them. I'm glad they're getting lots of use in your projects.

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[dusk socket]

Android compatible program ,Please yes

[waxen thistle]

That solder capillary action is magic. 🪄

[cinder wind]

Soon you'll be able to bounce a lazer mic off those windows

[desert orbit]

Got Tasmota (an open source IoT 'alternative firmware' platform) running on the QTPy ESP32 Pico a little while ago, included it in a PR for a bunch of templates for various dev boards (including a buch of other adafruit ones). The QTPy Pico with Tasmota is a fun platform for quick IoT projects with the Pico, although definitely not as flexible as CircuitPython

https://templates.blakadder.com/adafruit_QTPy-ESP32-Pico.html

[urban gale]

Does anyone remember the builders from Fraggle Rock?

[hot frigate]

@open girder Question: Regarding $32m in venture capital at Arduino... Recently my company upgraded security (a good thing), and now thumbdrives without security keys are no longer allowed (also a good thing). But, this means I can no longer connect anything that emulates that, aka that runs Circuitpython (a BAD thing). My workaround is to code off a Raspberry Pi, which, also must technically be programmed from home now (the seed one at least). This works, but won't once I am gone (if that day ever arrives). Do you have any advice about how to deal with this, especially with newer engineers nearly requiring Arduino's to get their job done (aka "Why would I do that in Labview when I can do that with an Arduino.....")? (I won't hear your answer until after I get back from picking my kid up at scouts) 🙂

[open girder]

@hot frigate will get to this Q at the question segment

[waxen thistle]

Nice to see folks in scouting ⚜️

[ionic garnet]

This is a great business strategy @open girder. Classy, inspiration, and effective

[hot frigate]

still likes it. Off I go.....

[cinder wind]

Apparently a collective noun for Feathers is a "tickle of feathers"

[waxen thistle]

well that name made me laugh

[wild urchin]

Not a pillow? Missed opportunity.

[upbeat coral]

@hot frigate I heard it said once "Any process that is personality driven, is doomed to fail." Just sayin.

[desert orbit]

whoa, not just a sensor board, but also a 2.4 GHz UART? and a flexible power board?! Wurth + Feather for the win!

[waxen thistle]

That's pretty nifty Wurth. You could even say it's Wurth-while.

[wild urchin]

We really have to figure out that immortality thing to solve that problem.

[waxen thistle]

Until that happens, we can make the most of the time we have -- every moment is special and we're in a point of human history where even the common person can do extraordinary things.

[dim knot]

Circuit Playground Express https://www.adafruit.com/product/3333

Uncased USB Flash Disk / Memory Stick - 2 GB https://www.adafruit.com/product/5476

[desert orbit]

would be cool to put a BGA socket on there 🤔

[wild urchin]

That is so, but still, personality driven processes are vulnerable to personality existence failure

Even if they don't fail earlier.

[dim knot]

USB to 5.5mm/2.1mm DC Booster Cable - 9V or 12V Output https://www.adafruit.com/product/5457

[wild urchin]

It should be easy to put a polarity flip switch in there, right?

Cut the cable, out in a switch.

[desert orbit]

One thing I love about CircuitPython is the ability to leave behind text files and old versions and various breadcrumbs for future me when I rediscover a project 5 years from now. an uncased usb drive might be a fun way to do that for printed-only projects 😄

[dim knot]

13.56MHz RFID/NFC Clear Tag - NTAG203 Chip https://www.adafruit.com/product/5458

[cinder wind]

oh yeah I think these RFID tags are read/writable by iPhones, unlike the older MiFare tags

[wild urchin]

A lot of music electronics want tip negative 9V to run off guitar pedal power supplies

[dim knot]

USB Type C 3.1 PD to 5.5mm Barrel Jack Cable - 9V 5A Output - 1.2m long with E-Mark https://www.adafruit.com/product/5449

USB Type C 3.1 PD to 5.5mm Barrel Jack Cable - 12V 5A Output - 1.2m long with E-Mark https://www.adafruit.com/product/5450

USB Type C 3.1 PD to 5.5mm Barrel Jack Cable - 20V 5A Output - 1.2m long with E-Mark https://www.adafruit.com/product/5452

USB Type C 3.1 PD to 5.5mm Barrel Jack Cable - 15V 5A Output - 1.2m long with E-Mark https://www.adafruit.com/product/5451

[wild urchin]

Also a couple of the Brothers label makers will run on 9-12V tip negative

[desert orbit]

q: do you have an in with the Witrn folks? I love their USB analyzers (particularly the U3, its pretty amazing) and would love to see someone in the US carry it so people I recommend them to don't have to go to Aliexpress

[waxen thistle]

Meow?

[desert orbit]

also, their take on the simple USB DC load concept are adorable: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800196209384.html

[ionic garnet]

ordered a couple of these tonight

[waxen thistle]

There's five of them? So.....Cat5?

[wild urchin]

Was going to mount some on a Perma proto

[dim knot]

dLUX-dLITE RGB Rainbow Cat Shape LEDs 3 Pack by Unexpected Labs https://www.adafruit.com/product/5482

dLUX-dLITE Cool White Kitty Shape LEDs 5 Pack by Unexpected Labs https://www.adafruit.com/product/5479

dLUX-dLITE Green Succulent Shape LEDs 5 Pack by Unexpected Labs https://www.adafruit.com/product/5481

dLUX-dLITE Blue Kitty Shape LEDs 5 Pack by Unexpected Labs https://www.adafruit.com/product/5478

dLUX-dLITE Red Skull Shape LEDs 5 Pack by Unexpected Labs https://www.adafruit.com/product/5480

[wild urchin]

To light under my cabinets

[dim knot]

Adafruit ESP32-S3 TFT Feather - 4MB Flash, 2MB PSRAM, STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5483

[ionic garnet]

I got skulls and cats because who doen't need these components! Already have a game concept in mind...

I gots me one of those Feather ESP32 S3 too

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder

There is a new agreement on a smart home control called “Matter”

Have you considered being a member? And in general can you share what involvement would inquire?

Just hoping a maker like Adafruit could contribute to what is important for makers

[lavish frost]

Q: Are USB 3.0 Type A plugs generally pin compatible with 3.0 type C connectors? Like could I hot air off a plug from a flash drive and solder on a new type C and turn a type a drive into a type c drive or am I dreaming?

[cinder wind]

The S3 gives you one extra 'S' over the S2! The extra 'S' stands for "SBluetoothS"

[frosty belfry]

I remember DIY Perks youtube channel doing a video where they did that USB A to C conversion.

[frosty belfry]

https://youtu.be/V-vFtiDYiIw

[lavish frost]

Oh interesting, I found myself recently using these Amazon Special adapters for embedding storage into 3d prints and found myself thinking there had to be a more elegant solution

[desert orbit]

these are fun too:

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5180
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4090

i've used the breakout board for a few things, mostly because it has mounting holes 🙂

[lavish frost]

These on the store got me thinking about it because they all seem to have the same pin labels but I don't know enough about USB data transfer to be confident

[queen sentinel]

Question: any news on esp32s3 ble hid?

[desert orbit]

Basically its just GND/5V and D+/D- for USB-A, so that makes it pretty easy - just pin-to-pin and you should be good to go 🙂

[wild urchin]

Can you use the wireless circuitpython to integrate with Jupiter? Would like to be able to use that as a repl wrapper.

[echo canopy]

Question do you see the Adafruit ESP32-S3 TFT working with a M1 Mac without much frustration since it has native USB support? Any insight ? @open girder

[waxen thistle]

I recently got a lenovo laptop -- and it had a built in physical camera privacy shield. It was a nice little feature -- otherwise I'd have to add one.

[wild urchin]

Or something like ipython

[lavish frost]

is that USB 2 or 3 speeds, because it seems like USB 3 has so many pins

[wild urchin]

Yay thank you!

[ionic garnet]

My M1 Mac ROCKS

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for giving us your time.

[waxen thistle]

I've also found that older USB 2.0 devices sometimes don't play nicely with USB-C adapters, hubs, or the M1 processor. But that's a niche case.

[desert orbit]

thanks adafriends! ❤️

[ionic garnet]

yes the hubs can mess you up

[wild urchin]

M1 Mac Mini was outstanding for $1k with as much RAM as I could get

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!

[inner spade]

Thank you @open girder!

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔

[ionic garnet]

order placed you wonderful Adapeople

[cinder wind]

thanks Ze (sp?) and others at @open girder!

[wild urchin]

Refurbished allowed me the next larger flash drive

[west shell]

Thanks for the answers, not that I liked them 🤔

[waxen thistle]

I'm still on an intel macbook pro (sunk cost), but if the M1 drops in price with the introduction of the M2, I'm all for getting a second machine.

🕺

[ionic garnet]

Be kind to eavh other. But unlike Oprah, I mean it

[upbeat matrix]

wait, did LadyAda say that they support thread now?

[wild urchin]

I thought I heard that.

[frosty belfry]

Yes, that's a welcome feature that's becoming more popular. Recently got a new hp laptop from/for work that has one too. It is small and unobtrusive to the point that I didn't realize it was there at first, but very handy to have.

[ionic garnet]

I have 3 MB (two MBP and one Air). Only the Air is M1. Absolute favorite.

[upbeat matrix]

omg, that's great!

[ionic garnet]

I need a beefier one for homw studio. The 2019 MBP is showing signs of age

[wild urchin]

But, it's possible that she just said that we recently got Thread and now there's another one

[ionic garnet]

I don't thread support in CP

[wild urchin]

Consider a mini

[ionic garnet]

Yes. Maybe a Mini. Always loved those. Had a dozen through the years. I go through a lot of Macs

[waxen thistle]

Same model here -- got the entry level 2019 MBP 16" (16gb/512gb)....and sadly, it doesn't have the longevity that my 2013 MBP 15" had.

[ionic garnet]

my Air is such a Powerful machine.

I have 2019, 1TB, fast CPU, upgraded graphics. retina, and 64GB RAM (Intel model).

very nice but runs too hot

Air barely breaks a sweat

[waxen thistle]

Indeed, it cooks -- and I gobble up the 16gb ram much faster than I expect.

[ionic garnet]

I do a lot of virtualization locally

[waxen thistle]

The entry level 2020 m1 air would fly circles around my pro, sadly.

Vmware?

[ionic garnet]

VirtualBox, Parallels, Docker, you name it and I virtualize it in various use cases

[wild urchin]

https://refurb-tracker.com/

How I managed to wait for the M1 Mini at a price point I wanted.

[ionic garnet]

you can't get too caught up in running with the Jones. Every computer you buy will be less than ideal in a year. So but what works like the way you do and gets it down now. For me, that I an apple laptop every 2 years like clockwork

[wild urchin]

Been running this for a year. My Time Machine drive is basically the only noise it ever makes.

[ionic garnet]

I'm a security researcher so I have to run latest a;ways

[wild urchin]

I'm curious about the M2's also, but this is such a leap above 2015 MBP

[ionic garnet]

Waiting for real info on M2

[wild urchin]

And if you're running a home recording studio, I presume you already have a bunch of USB peripherals and a monitor.

And maybe a USP

[ionic garnet]

Yeah. I run three offices in my home. One is music room. Set up for digital mastering, recording, and I also do research and write songs.. Then next office is the hardware workshop with soldering, and all kinds of other tooling. Lastly I have my primary office where I work as a CTO remotely for a California company providing developers all over the world. I have different mac use cases in each office.

[wild urchin]

Yeah, fair.

[rapid hornet]

@queen sentinel for ESP32-S3 BLE HID we'll need to support BLE servers. we hit a roadblock with nimble (used by the esp-idf) where it doesn't work like the nordic softdevice. basically we need the ability to add services after BLE has started

nimble assumes they are setup before starting

[grand tusk]

Hope JP is having a good week. Here's one from the back catalog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bfBM0A0PPw

[smoky island]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[lavish patrol]

Genesis of The Lars Zone...

[shell mason]

Lars zone activated

[sterile forge]

is JP on today?

[grand tusk]

He's out all week.

[sterile forge]

Okay hope all is well for him

[grand tusk]

Enjoy a re-run. Adabox 013 perhaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IePYEqy4jw

[queen sentinel]

Thanks, Scott. Does that mean no CP ble hid in CP8?

[rapid hornet]

we have it for nrf already. we aren't actively working on it for ESP so I'm not sure when it will be available there

[upper sandal]

it looks like a much anticipated feature, people regularly ask about it

[grand tusk]

Could you put multiple Rubies in one larger bitmap?

[grand tusk]

Hey that's cool. Thanks!

[inner spade]

Is this compatible with the concept of anchor position?

(I’m here a bit late after the start of the stream.)

… for a similar UI?

Nice functionality. The animation appears very smooth even on the larger screen.

[grand tusk]

Thanks

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[grand tusk]

Mash it up with some easing functions, that would be neat.

[smoky island]

Thank you both. Good night 👋 If anyone wants to experiment further or try them the examples are here: https://github.com/circuitpython/CircuitPython_Module_Examples/pull/5

[smoky island]

I think the AnimatedIconWidget that Kmatch created may have done that a bit. It has a rotate / grow effect when the buttons are pressed.

[grand tusk]

I'll have to take a look.

[smoky island]

https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_DisplayIO_Layout/pull/18 this one shows a quick video fo the effect

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim and all present.

[inner spade]

Hello!

[dim wigeon]

Happy Friday everyone!’

[proper prawn]

👍

[real depot]

Hello!

[smoky island]

https://github.com/circuitpython/CircuitPython_Module_Examples/tree/main/bitmaptools

[ivory flax]

Can you do a animated zoom from small to large

Could you not start with the slider in the center. So small to the left and larger to the right

I guess it goes with a slider widget you discussed a month ago. But no worries

That would be very cool. Thanks👍

[grand tusk]

Hello deep divers!

[inner spade]

InfiBillie

Try (50, 201) and (200, 49, -1)

[grand tusk]

Currently running the rotation script on the Funhouse. Billie is getting dizzy.

[inner spade]

Auto refresh has additional logic to look for changes, I believe.

And it’s asynchronous with your code changes.

Try (50, 201, 5) and (200, 49, -5)

Then you can just change the step size

[brazen quail]

Hola from 'rado ! :-D

[dim wigeon]

Some of the things pylint gets super grumpy about are things that I honestly don’t understand why it matters.

But those folders don’t have a __init__.py in them, right?

[inner spade]

I suspect that the order requirements are influenced by libraries and modules that import other libraries and modules under the covers — or the same ones, perhaps?

[dim wigeon]

I guess that’s the other side of “convention over configuration”, though…like, my codebase at work has some files in it whose names start with “test_” but who aren’t pytest test files, and it super confuses both pytest and the VSCode test runner.

@inner spade Is pylint actually trying to do some kind of dependency resolution under the hood? Wow, that would seem to be really complicated.

[brazen quail]

Which utility makes the mini video Mp4 output ?

[inner spade]

I’m barely knowledgeable about it, but I recall that there are some resource lists in there. Circup has them, too, generated dynamically I think.

[dim wigeon]

@inner spade Wow. Dependency resolution is a hard problem - I wouldn’t want to bite that off in my own code if I could at all avoid it. 🙂

Just look at how many command line options isort has! 😄

[inner spade]

Tough to do without a config asset database.

[smoky island]

https://github.com/circuitpython/CircuitPython_Module_Examples/pull/6

[brazen quail]

Kinda like parsing elf in STM cubeMon ? (for monitoring/trending variables)

[inner spade]

@smoky island thanks for pulling back the covers of bitmaptools. Hadn’t looked at it before.

The approach of creating examples is very useful.

[fresh flame]

What's the largest bitmap it can load?

👍

[brazen quail]

With a speed hit, is it trivial to grab external bmps? ...or use an external video buffer ?

Off chip memory.

Yes

[inner spade]

Thanks for the stream!

[smoky island]

Thanks all. Hope everyone has a great weekend! 👋

[brazen quail]

Thank you. :-D

[proper prawn]

@smoky island tnx Tim!

[smoky island]

Working on a reaction test game with LED Strip today. Follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xWtskUQB0 or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[inner spade]

Good morning! Sounds like a fun project.

[grand tusk]

Hello everyone!

[inner spade]

FunHouse has a light sensor if you want to complicate setting the brightness level. It interacts with the TFT backlight, but can be fixed with a spot of gaff tape.

[grand tusk]

I'm using the 16 neopixel ring.

I plug it in on the PIR port.

I soldered some wires with pins to the ring.

[halcyon linden]

Good morning all

nice

[inner spade]

Also the target could continuously move and change size.

[grand tusk]

The rotozoom examples work fine on the funhouse.

[brazen chasm]

Evening all. F1 in Baku went well. Ferrari on top.

F1 is not a sport, is an engineer (geek) art competition

Yeah ,but it's about braking at the exact right moment at 6 G. You don't get that in a simulator. But I'm all for totally autonomous cars, charge them up and let them go.

[inner spade]

CircuitPython language be Pirate on t ’ FunHouse. 🏴‍☠️

Need global for setting a variable

[grand tusk]

(otherwise read only)

[halcyon linden]

do forget to try the start again to make sure the level returned to the start

[grand tusk]

Have it flash the current position red when you lose.

[inner spade]

Thanks @smoky island !

[halcyon linden]

okay thanks

[grand tusk]

Thanks. Zine con sounds fun.

[smoky island]

We went to the same event a few years ago before lockdowns began it was cool to see all the things people brought.

Thanks all. Have a good weekend 👋

[open girder]

The Desk of Ladyada - Sample Sunday and a Sensor Swapout https://youtu.be/KU7xT0wn3UM

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[lilac tusk]

Hi 👋

[ionic garnet]

Hello

[green bison]

First I'm hearing of this shortage

Must be tuff

[glossy flicker]

Random chip shortage question if y'all are feeling up to it - at this week's Ask an Engineer, someone asked how long y'all expected the Raspberry Pi shortage to last and the response was you thought this is just the way it's going to be now....and I was wondering if you could expand on that, perhaps in relation to the 18 month estimate Ladyada has mentioned in the past

WOW! that filament is hella dope! 😍

[spiral bough]

@open girder could you talk about how the part shortage has affected your future planning (beyond current shortages)? I anticipate things have changed enough that procurement philosophy has changed and it isn't going back.

[glossy flicker]

oooo good question!

[green bison]

Is the LED filament outdoor suitable? And how long of a wire can you get? @open girder

[viral sail]

Can those filaments be cut to shorter lengths?

[green bison]

Magic wire?

[open girder]

will get to the Qs @glossy flicker and @spiral bough

[glossy flicker]

awesome - thank you, @open girder !

[smoky island]

ESP32-S2 or S3 PyPortal someday 🤞

[glossy flicker]

Thanks, Phil & Ladyada! Awesome discussion 🤘

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌕

[ionic garnet]

Fun talk tonight. Need a 'scope

Bye to all my favorite makers

[glossy flicker]

g'night all!

[light stump]

👀

[shadow epoch]

Happy Tuesday!

[haughty quiver]

Likewise to you @shadow epoch !

[shadow epoch]

Cart is loaded. Betting that @haughty quiver can't make me think I need another <insert today's item here> ...

[inner spade]

What’s today’s discount value in kg of cheddar?

[shadow epoch]

Mmm cheese for taco tuesday. I've MISSED you guys!

I think today's discount might be 2 gal of gas in California

[inner spade]

No tacos here today, just yummy Wensleydale cheese and cracking toast.

[haughty quiver]

ooh yes, i sampled some Wensleydale just the other day...

🧀

[ionic garnet]

Hello fine peoples

[shadow epoch]

I will have to check out the Wensleydale!

[opaque hearth]

Hiya!

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[shadow epoch]

YT sounds!

[haughty quiver]

🐭

[ionic garnet]

We are live

[grand tusk]

Howdy!

[still imp]

Time for JP

[cinder wind]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-wallace-and-gromit-gif-11822925

so many LEDs. much better than cheese

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-lights-led-strips-lights-rgb-modes-addressable-rgb-gif-17099295

[still imp]

I’m high density

[shell mason]

Neopixel strip goodness

[shadow epoch]

I lost the bet. Need one.

[ionic garnet]

I am going to pass this week. Have such a surplus of blinkys. Love the product though

[cinder wind]

Datasheet on the product page for this is pretty nice https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/product-files/4865/P4865_C15806-001_ds.pdf Look at the bend radius!

[ionic garnet]

Oh, the hat may change my mind!

[inner spade]

A hat that’s perfect for bowling.

[grand tusk]

Can it run the 'chaser' animation?

[drowsy inlet]

Q: the page mentions using a 5V 2A power source and you've mentioned being mindful of power a couple times. At the same time you're running it off a Qt PY. So is 3V ok for "most" uses? Would you need more power if, eg, you run full brightness of all white?

[cinder wind]

Exactly

[ionic garnet]

Sure. Seems like any neopixel animation

guessing though

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dupont-et-tintin-meme-gif-22323385

[drowsy inlet]

really happy to see it running off a lipo

[ionic garnet]

I'm nice and dense too

[rapid jolt]

Does it have intermediate power connectors so the leds in the middle don't get current starved?

[cinder wind]

The newer Neopixel / WS2812 LEDs will accept its data at 3.3V and will be fairly color accurate at 3.3V too. Running the LEDs off a Lipo (3.7V) means the color is better than at 3.3V (The blue LEDs start to turn off under 3.5V)

[drowsy inlet]

Q: guessing more power draw if you chain them?

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[drowsy inlet]

hah, my questions are just a sec too late

[grand tusk]

Thanks JP!

[shadow epoch]

Thanks JP and welcome back!

[cinder wind]

never take the hat off, JP

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[ionic garnet]

Great job JP. Glad you're back on the correct side of the pond

[opaque hearth]

Sweet! Thx JP! ☕

[drowsy inlet]

Good info, thanks!

[shadow epoch]

That brim is a perfect reflector

[drowsy inlet]

Thanks JP!

[drowsy inlet]

got a 5V 2A power supply with alligator clips just in case. For science, of course.

[haughty quiver]

yes, there are pads under every fifth LED you could solder to if needed.

[cinder wind]

The typical estimate is 50-60mA max per LED (20mA per R,G,B) if the LEDs are full on white (R+G+B). But you usually don't run full on. JP's example had the brightness set to 45% I think. And he was only running maybe 30% the strip at at time, and then only maybe 2/3rds of RGB parts of the LED (some R, no G, some B).
So while the max current draw for that strip could be like 8 amps, JP's example was probably only drawing <500mA

[haughty quiver]

And, when I accidentally had all the LEDs on at the same time at full brightness, there's a handy feature where the QT Py lets you know by crashing and resetting 🙂

[grand tusk]

I have a 32 neopixel featherwing that I use for a work lamp. I have to do a soft startup or the CircuitPython drive fails to mount. Probably the startup surge trips the USB stack.

[vivid ore]

Ugh, way to put something shiny and colorful up for sale. You got me this week...

[haughty quiver]

We all win then!

[lilac tusk]

I've seen 50 neopixel at full brightness + full channel intensity desolder the LEDs and the microcontroller on the backside power them 🙂

so you avoided that handedly 🙂

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 369 LIVE in 10 mins! Wooden Bricks, LO-LA59, Quetzalcoatl and Nozzle Holder https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live #3DPrinting #3DHangouts

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️🧱

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll, glad to see you back.

[rocky reef]

good morning, evening, afternoon and night to folks hanging out all over the world!

[lavish patrol]

Greetings, good people. 😀

Bleeps and Bloops incoming... 👍

[lilac tusk]

Happy Wednesday everyone

[drowsy inlet]

hiya!

[lilac tusk]

We’ve made it half way through the work week 🙂

If you work m-f that is

Are you going to design and print a buzz lightyear helmet with the new movie coming?

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/jobs

Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters -  https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/messeffct-gif-20408610

[rocky reef]

Wooden Lego Learn Guide - https://learn.adafruit.com/cnc-wooden-building-bricks/

[lavish patrol]

Do these bricks also fit to Duplo bricks?

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/awsome-amazed-wow-shocked-surprised-gif-13480340

https://tenor.com/view/wood-gif-12937799

[lilac tusk]

Love these

[waxen thistle]

I might not be able to join this morning, but good morning all you most excellent people 🙂

[lavish patrol]

Good morning, @waxen thistle

[rocky reef]

Wooden lego YouTube Video - https://youtu.be/n47uIVjyXdU

[lavish patrol]

Do Duplo Minfigs exist?

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-build-building-red-forever-gif-20878191

[lavish patrol]

👍

[shell mason]

some could just make duplo minifigs from legos

[rocky reef]

yes! check out the latest Jurassic Park set https://twitter.com/videopixil/status/1535949564783607809?cxt=HHwWgoC-nbn_5NAqAAAA

Pedro Ruiz (@videopixil)

🦖

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 12, 2022, 11:38 AM

[shell mason]

i watched recently the Lego masters Suomi where one pair build a bridge what holded weight what they was on hand

was it something of 500kilograms

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

Learn Guide Project Code - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides

[waxen thistle]

Yay, I can hop on! It was a lot of work, but all in all we're just another brick in the wall.

Wait, Bantam no longer sells their milling machine? 😢

Welp, it's time to start to build my own CNC. You'd be surprised for the demand for small, custom parts -- everyone is already tasking their larger machines for more profitable jobs.

[blissful compass]

you could put a small drone to make it fly

[lavish patrol]

Looks like a cross between a ladybug and a cat.

[waxen thistle]

the front profile of it looks suspiciously like a certain Mouse ears.

[lavish patrol]

Cool gadgets.

[rocky reef]

Articulated Quetzalcoatl by rextruction
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/articulated-quetzalcoatl
https://youtu.be/ukamBr5DWco

[waxen thistle]

Love the use of the stone slate on the turntable

Reminds me of the video game Guacamelee

[rocky reef]

Community Makes: https://www.printables.com/model/37200-perma-proto-feather-case/

Nefertiti Bust [Hollow] https://www.thingiverse.com/make:1039370

[waxen thistle]

3M strips -- very handy

[lavish patrol]

Looks like chocolate.

[waxen thistle]

"Stop eating my support material, I need that until I'm done printing." 🍫

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[waxen thistle]

It's been a pleasure being able to catch y'all this week, hope everyone is doing well.

[upbeat coral]

Each time someone buys a 3M product, they contribute to my pension. Thank you.

[shell mason]

icecream you all deserved for great show

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[shell mason]

andy might know the icecream what make that color

[lavish patrol]

Liquorice?

[shell mason]

Salt Liqourice

[waxen thistle]

Just got a recipe for a super-flavor infused strawberry sorbet -- using dehydrated ground up strawberries to punch up the flavor profile 🙂

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for giving us your time.

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show

[shell mason]

ammonium chloride what also known as salmiakki for Finns

[lavish patrol]

Great show as always. Thanks, guys.

[hard hollow]

woo! Thanks for hanging out folks, cya tonight

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for another most excellent show! Keep on printin'!

[lavish patrol]

🐶

[idle spindle]

thanks for the advice HOPE to see the dice tower on a 3d hangouts soon ILL BRING MINE lol

[lilac tusk]

Getting a free Wednesday evening to make show n tell! 🙂

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[nova totem]

Evening everyone

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

[sage aspen]

Hello

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[split gazelle]

here is the link to join show and tell to show off your project! https://streamyard.com/z2c5cn84m8

[open surge]

good evening

[tulip canyon]

👋

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[nimble jackal]

It's that time... Show yer stuff!

[haughty quiver]

hi there everyone!

[ionic garnet]

Hi folks

Tuned in in time to see Scott!

Scott is one of my heroes! As are you JP

[haughty quiver]

🦸‍♂️

[smoky island]

@rapid hornet are there html files embedded somewhere in the core that have the content for those pages? Awesome work on wifi workflow.

[rapid hornet]

@smoky island yeah, it's all hard coded atm

[opaque hearth]

Oooo nice @sage aspen slick!

[rapid hornet]

would love thoughts on what it should be

[noble grove]

Cool

[sage aspen]

Thanks

[smoky island]

I'm imaging an edit file page that can ultimately save back to the drive. There are some great HTML/JS code text box modules that could potentially drop in. They can be linked to CDN hosted copies so the the modules wouldn't have to live in the CIRCUITPY drive, but client browsers can still use them.

[rapid hornet]

@smoky island https://github.com/tannewt/circuitpython/blob/cp_webserver/supervisor/shared/web_workflow/web_workflow.c#L367=

[slow spire]

Hi, y'all!

[smoky island]

Thanks you

[waxen thistle]

Very nice project! Noe and Pedro are most decidedly not just another brick in the wall 🧱

[rapid hornet]

ya, I imagine we could have js we load from code.circuitpython.org or maybe local.circuitpython.org

I do want it to do something when "offline" though

[smoky island]

I think it can fallback to standard <textarea> with no fancy syntax highlighting and other helpful things, but still functional.

[rapid hornet]

I'd love your help on the details of this

[smoky island]

I will dig in a bit. Am happy to help with it. Have some ideas to tinker with.

[rapid hornet]

great! I've got notes in that file

(those pages need a favicon too)

[nimble jackal]

Well now I'm thinking if you had a pretty precise motor control, you could do a MIDI glass bowl. 😀

[waxen thistle]

Was the event relaxing? You said the artists were "in tents". ⛺

[haughty quiver]

INTENSE!

[noble grove]

Amazing what you can do with one button.

[slow spire]

Taking a break from in tents projects.

[waxen thistle]

DIY Google Glass!

[smoky island]

Coming from working on displays a lot, I did find it refreshing to be limited to a much more simplistic input and output with the user.

[tulip canyon]

❤️ asyncio

[smoky island]

Awesome! great job getting the communication bit worked out in asyncio @nova totem. All amazing features tend to begin as dots or something else basic on the screen.

[haughty quiver]

ahahaha! Cousin Lars!

[nova totem]

Thanks. I realized blocking on UART or i2c reads could be a problem so trying to find the solution to it

[upper sandal]

uart read doesn't have to block though

[dim wigeon]

@nova totem That’s really neat! I need to learn more about asyncio.

[upper sandal]

it blocks if you read more than available and have a long timeout (1s by default)

[nova totem]

Yup really trying to just put a wall around it, some libraries (GPS) just use readline. So hoping this can drop in to solve the async problem without rewriting the library

[haughty quiver]

@lethal lagoon that's fantastic!

[nova totem]

3d printing onto fabric is always so neat

[dim wigeon]

That’s amazing @lethal lagoon !

[waxen thistle]

Sophy does such amazing work printing on fabric!

[smoky island]

Oh my goodness I want to play with that to feel how they all clink together. I think it was some of your fabric prints that had me mezmerized for a while playing with them at a HaD supercon.

[delicate fractal]

How does one get their hands on a google glass lense these days?

[tulip canyon]

Really wild! Love it

[rapid hornet]

reminds me of dominoes

[noble grove]

Castanettes?

[dim wigeon]

That almost makes me want to spend the time figuring out what’s wrong with my 3-D printer. 😮

[nova totem]

I had one but amazon has a ton. I've got some more on the way with shorter focal lengths to hopefully shrink things down

[upper sandal]

read the GPS only if uart.in_waiting > 0 ?

[noble grove]

Yes, castanets a

[delicate fractal]

I eventually gave up on fiddling with my old printers, and bought a Prusa. It just works...

[noble grove]

castanets and dominoes had a love-child.

[nova totem]

That's basically what the async part does. I only had it working for read as it was the trivial case vs readline. CPython breaks writes into chunks so you don't stall on a large write on a slower baudrate

[dim wigeon]

@delicate fractal Yeah, that’s what I hear. I have a Creality whose build plate got warped the last time I moved, and I don’t have the patience to try to fix it right now.

[lethal lagoon]

thanks @haughty quiver and @dim wigeon !

@haughty quiver that tape/keyboard integration is mindblowing! so cool

[haughty quiver]

oh wow @inner spade that's excellent!

[waxen thistle]

Very nice @inner spade!

[noble grove]

Cedar Grove near Stony Plain?

[nova totem]

Thanks great @inner spade being able to dim those LED matrices is amazing

[lethal lagoon]

@inner spade so cool, looks great!

[viral sail]

Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[upbeat coral]

put another quarter in the box

[smoky island]

@inner spade 😲 That is awesome! Great work on the brightness for Matrix Portal

[tulip canyon]

Thanks everyone, great projects as always

[nova totem]

Great job hosting @split gazelle and great projectgs everyone

[open surge]

thanks everyone!

[lethal lagoon]

great projects everyone! great show Liz, thanks for hosting!

[inner spade]

just booted out of Firefox. Sorry about that!

[lilac tusk]

Great show everyone 🙂

[waxen thistle]

Thanks everyone for sharing! Y'all are awesome! And special thanks to guest host @split gazelle! 🦜

[dim wigeon]

Great projects! I love how creative we all are! Thanks for hosting, @split gazelle !

[haughty quiver]

fantastic stuff everyone!

[smoky island]

Thanks everyone for sharing, telling, and watching. Thanks Liz for hosting 🎉

[split gazelle]

all good @inner spade ! it has happened to all of us. love the work you're doing on the matrix. i was saying i'll definitely use that

[brazen quail]

I wonder how the current required changes(with dimming) ?! :-o

[split gazelle]

thanks folks for coming by!

[nova totem]

The brightness does factor in the current - I've ran into this showing some very bright/white vs dark images

[inner spade]

Also recently updated the NeoTrellis driver to support brightness. Hope to move on past display brightness soon....

I haven't directly measured brightness related current yet, although I've noticed that the RGB drivers on the back of the matrix panel are no longer too hot to touch.

[ionic garnet]

Man I had a rough day so looking forward to the Adagoodness

[waxen thistle]

Hope this evening treats you better than the day has. Remember to keep your stick on the ice. We're all pullin' for ya.

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/lqZJif4t6NY

[waxen thistle]

Bleeps and bloops are live on Twitch!

[brazen quail]

Hola from 'rado ! :-D

[nimble jackal]

Always micro. Never a macro adapter 😄

[waxen thistle]

https://adafruit.com/free

https://adafruit.com/shipping

https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-set-up-2-factor-authentication-on-adafruit

[dim wigeon]

People scalping RPis makes me so mad. It’s just not NICE to do that! 😡

[ionic garnet]

Question: has anyone ever used the wled software with https://www.adafruit.com/product/5400

[waxen thistle]

❤️ ❤️

[ionic garnet]

it should work

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[ionic garnet]

I can use it with Rust which is my more probable use case for the 5400 product ESP32 Feather V2

[noble grove]

@nimble jackal To plug an SD card into a microSD slot?

[waxen thistle]

https://adabox.com

[noble grove]

What kind of plastic was that?

[lethal lagoon]

That event looked amazing!!! Thank you for filming & sharing @open girder !!

[waxen thistle]

For those who can't make it to such events, thank you for that brief glimpse into such excellent experiences.

[opaque hearth]

I would like to hear a mash-up of “it’s a hard luck life” and “it’s a parts shortage” sung by the orphans of the musical Annie

[lethal lagoon]

YES I have been venturing back to museums and galleries slowly and it has been so good for my creativity

[dim wigeon]

Me too…and I’m going to a concert tomorrow for the first time since the pandemic.

[lilac tusk]

Chip shortage, the struggle is real

Samd21?

[lethal lagoon]

@dim wigeon ooh that's so exciting! have fun!

[lilac tusk]

328p! On I did see that it had leads into April 2023!

[nova totem]

My trip to NYC a bit ago was just something after having not traveled in two years. But felt so great to get out

[wraith thunder]

OMG yes, 328p in QFN is sooooo bad, some company quote me 40USD/pcs

[lethal lagoon]

I recently traveled for the first time in 2+ years too, it felt so weird and kind of scary haha

[lilac tusk]

Samd21 I think we’re prioritized over 328p

[wraith thunder]

Even for the QFP ATMEGA328, it is bad enough that some chinese company are using clone ATmega328 for Arudino mini pro/ uno

[lilac tusk]

Those seem to come in stock sooner

[nova totem]

For good or bad I had covid not that long before my trip so I was less worried as I was probably still in my "safe" time after where I can't get it again

[waxen thistle]

I'm nearby NYC, and haven't been in the city (with one exception) since mid-2018. I really do miss the cultural experiences like NYC Resistor.

[wraith thunder]

The issue is that we have old design based on Atmega328 too.

[dim wigeon]

Thanks! It’ll be a good time, and the venue is beautiful. And I have a front row seat. 😮
https://mim.org/events/brennen-leigh-trio/

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[lilac tusk]

I actually recommended bitbang gaming to the job board so very cool to see it up so fast 🙂

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/2022/06/14/python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-python-circuitpython-micropython-thepsf/

[lilac tusk]

When is circuitpython day?

8/8?

Or 9/8? 🙂

[slow spire]

I think it's 8/8, the "snakiest day of the year"

[noble grove]

RGB Bucky ball!

[lethal lagoon]

Ooh nice logo mash up! great design!

[slow spire]

Landed on the right one! That's the best, I think. 🐍

[green bison]

Wouldn't it be 7/7 since CP is 0 indexed?

[turbid hill]

lol

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5513

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS

[dim wigeon]

Tools with firmware that powerful are wild. I was building an Arduino-based KIM-1 simulator kit last weekend, and it dawned on me that the microcontroller in the soldering iron I was using to build the kit probably had more computing power than the computer the kit was supposed to emulate. 🙂

[waxen thistle]

Your soldering iron probably has more computational power than Apollo 11.

[dim wigeon]

No doubt.

[slow spire]

There's a time travel story in there somewhere, something about augmenting the Apollo 11 computer with a soldering iron.

I read that Apple MacBook Pro power brick has a faster CPU than the original Mac 128K.

I've seen bricks like those somewhere.

[dim wigeon]

I think Ken Shirriff (sp?) did a blog post about that. It’s wild.

[slow spire]

Thanks! I'll look for that

[ionic garnet]

just ordered a bunch of boards I didnt need. One reason to support my Adafriends. Another, fear of part shortage ofthe SAMD51, a chip I use often for the hw floating point for FFT and audio stuff.

[dim wigeon]

http://www.righto.com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surprising.html

[ionic garnet]

what I had wanted was the metro M4 with Airlift but sold out. I have one nut JUST one.

[humble tundra]

Is there a discount code today?

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: microadapter http://www.adafruit.com

[slow spire]

This one? https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/adafruit-industries-llc/4000/10123799

[humble tundra]

Thank you!

[lilac tusk]

Woo NPI

I like to say CUI as Coo-E

It has a Mickey Mouse plug, nice

[noble grove]

Rhymes with GUI

[waxen thistle]

https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/30-w-desktop-usb-pd-adapters

And sometimes those labels lie.

[lilac tusk]

Now I have a use for those power only USB-C connectors I have

Or a good use.

Replace the barrel plug on my treehouse IoT terminal with USB-C power 🥳

[nimble jackal]

2 drawers of adapters

[slow spire]

@ionic garnet A few available on other distributors, also: https://octopart.com/search?q=adafruit+4000&currency=USD&specs=0

[sand lotus]

I've been using a buck boost converter with an LCD where I can set the voltage (not the amps) and it works for many many different projects. This kind of smart power supply is much more convenient.

[noble grove]

Highest common denominator.

[desert orbit]

USB PD is super cool

[nimble jackal]

Learned the hard way that many "good" cables can't handle > 3 amps

[haughty quiver]

I ❤️ the USB power throwing star.

[nimble jackal]

Not that I was insanely overclocking a Pi or anything...

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/understanding-usb-type-c-cable-types-pitfalls-and-more

[sand lotus]

Yup, my PSU is 20V/5A I think and I just buck it down to 12V or 5V for LED's. Originally got it as a spare 20V laptop PSU but only needed it the once.

Because it's hard to find 5V/3A that will actually run a string of 300+ WS2812B LED's without dimming.

Universal Smart PSU's will be much safer for everyone.

[slow spire]

Welp, USB Throwing Star is going in my cart.
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4232

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5513

[desert orbit]

That throwing star is super cool!

I've used a dozen or so USB analysis tools and I recommend this one if you're really curious about the inner workings of USB PD. Its really cool to be able to see the individual steps of PD negotiation happen in real-time, complete with the binary (in hex form) being sent in each direction on the CC lines.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256802992045931.html

I hope Adafruit can carry it some day!

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3951

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5459

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5461

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5511

[sand lotus]

Why is the Box and Box Lite have different buttons? I like the 3 buttons would like the dock too. Plans to sell the dock separately?

[desert orbit]

The differences between the two are documented in Espressif's github project, I think:

https://github.com/espressif/esp-box/tree/master/docs/hardware_overview

[waxen thistle]

👏 Live demo gremlins!

[slow spire]

There's the demon in demonstrate.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5460

[sand lotus]

It's not a real live demonstration unless something crashes "Bill Gates"

[turbid hill]

the death star when they activate the beam

[noble grove]

Question: Is the Microadapter USB A 3.0

[slow spire]

Star Trek Transporter knob!

[humble tundra]

OMG I need one

I don't have a project for it but I'll make one up

[sand lotus]

Definitely death star throttle

Star Trek went to all digital control for transporters after TNG I think...

[dim wigeon]

@sand lotus The control panel for the Death Star in the movie was a Grass Valley Group video mixer. 🙂

[turbid hill]

that sound comes to mind that deep ooommmmmmmm when the death star fires

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/64

[sand lotus]

makes sense, looks similar

[nova totem]

I got one of the full size ones and I can verify, it is very smooth

[slow spire]

Very, very nice. Could brand it with Adafruit! I ordered the full size ones, immediately recognized their value.

[desert orbit]

I got the full size ones too and they're definitely my breadboard of choice now 🙂

[echo canopy]

Question @open girder

Adafruit has been cranking out a lot of boards during these challenging times , just a friendly inquiry will there be a “ESP32-S3 FTF Feather “ for Arduino? Or is meant to use just the regular ESP32-S3 Feather.. Thanks

[slow spire]

(Maybe a pink version in the future?)

[sand lotus]

buttery smooth breadboard sounds like a great marketing name

[noble grove]

Black is zero. Red is 2 volts.

[desert orbit]

The only feature I wish the 'premium' breadboards have is translucent plastic 🙂

[sand lotus]

i liked the suggestion of magic wire from last week.

[waxen thistle]

Glowy Spaghetti is awesome!

[sand lotus]

they do look like noodles

[nova totem]

Glo-ghetti?

[open girder]

Magic wire
​SpagLEDy
​light emitting spaghetti (do not eat)
​glow worms
​philament?
​fiLEDment
Ada's Lovelaces

[slow spire]

@open girder Maybe "AdaFil"

[sand lotus]

glow noodles?

[waxen thistle]

Those straight filaments are great for small model building --- Stormtrooper blaster bolts, lightsabers, etc

[delicate fractal]

I love SpagLEDy.

[sand lotus]

glow worms is patented if you're not a child of the 90's

ada love laces is really good yeah

[haughty quiver]

NeoPasta

[patent cobalt]

can you make a video tutorial on 9 Dof Sensor fusion?

[viral sail]

neofilaments

[sand lotus]

ahhh i like neopasta too, good one

[humble tundra]

Ooh illumanoodles

[haughty quiver]

LEDguine

[sand lotus]

oh man you're on a roll

[opaque hearth]

illumi-noodles

[delicate fractal]

I'm pretty sure it's glo-worm, and it's a different industry, so it might be OK.

[haughty quiver]

so hungry

[sand lotus]

yeah my vote is for illumi-noodles

[nimble jackal]

Techno Tinsel

[slow spire]

@open girder Lumafil

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-set-up-2-factor-authentication-on-adafruit

Sign up for 2FA --- and be nice.

[inner spade]

DragonVeins

(tribute to Phil B)

[slow spire]

@open girder RaveCord

[haughty quiver]

LEDuccine Alfredo

[sand lotus]

illumitoni

[slow spire]

Yeah, go look in those unopened AdaBoxen, peeps

[primal fern]

Only 25? Pffft

[humble tundra]

Fettucini AlfLEDo

[patent cobalt]

can you make a video tutorial on 9 Dof Sensor fusion?

[delicate fractal]

#attacked

[nimble jackal]

Lumilace

[sand lotus]

like rigitoni = illumitoni if that wasn't obvious

[haughty quiver]

hahah I am soo hungry for pasta

[sand lotus]

ohh i like lumilace too

[haughty quiver]

🍝

[nova totem]

Never would have guessed 🙂

[haughty quiver]

LOL

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌕

[upbeat coral]

illumiyarn

[sand lotus]

LEDoodles

[amber needle]

Hi 😀 so happy to catch a live show i have a question about the ​Illumanoodles, i came in at the end of the demo, whats the amp draw, volt req and are they just an led (unlike el wire that needs a driver board)

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows, and special thanks to Liz @split gazelle for guest hosting Show & Tell!

[slow spire]

Very cool, @open girder ! Thanks again!

[delicate fractal]

I have to say, I love the pastas, but I feel like not calling it lovelace would be a tragically missed opportunity

[nova totem]

Anything in particular you want to know about them? I did play with them about a year or two ago

[waxen thistle]

Hmm. Carbs.

[sand lotus]

@amber needle good question

[haughty quiver]

Bye all! going to boil a pot of water.

[noble grove]

Photoghetti

[waxen thistle]

If you watch it, it won't boil.

[nimble jackal]

I had thick chewy Chinese noods for supper

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for giving us your time.

[amber needle]

they would be awsome for my racing drone!

[slow spire]

GlowRamen.

[haughty quiver]

"Illuminoodles" is amazing

[fallen raptor]

Lightline

[noble grove]

Thank you!

[patent cobalt]

Yes how to make it work. I tried the written tutorial on the adafruit website but i could'nt get the junyter step to work

[slow spire]

Some of the longer ones are good, but googlable?

[waxen thistle]

This is how I found illuminoodle's cousin, the illumisticks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHJa7RH1EUE

[sand lotus]

oh yeah what will the lengths be for illuminoodles? could see longer ones being more useful but also can't cut them.

[slow spire]

oooh tiny lightsabers

[sand lotus]

that looks sick

[slow spire]

nice

[nova totem]

Which guide were you following?

[sand lotus]

illuminoodles would work great for a tron diorama

[slow spire]

@sand lotus Ladyada mentioned around 300mm for the ones she found that support 3V operation.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4GWkFGpmR4

[sand lotus]

oh wow

[orchid tangle]

I want to use cool white flexible cords for the lighting of my giant Enterprise-D model kit. The lighting that comes with it is terrible and this is much easier to work with.

[slow spire]

They'd make a great ring light for hamster influencers.

[fallen raptor]

Shine twine

Twinkle string

[slow spire]

Light-on python

[patent cobalt]

https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-sensorlab-magnetometer-calibration/magnetometer-calibration

[patent cobalt]

im using a Adafruit LSM6DSOX + LIS3MDL - Precision 9 DoF IMU - STEMMA QT / Qwiic

[nova totem]

I'm not sure sure if I ever did that step. Looking at it I'd make sure the Ardunio sketch is outputting on the serial port, but then not so sure. The adafruit forums may have more luck (I don't have those sensors myself either)

[slow spire]

FrankenTwine

[patent cobalt]

I can see the sensor output on in the arduino IDE serial output

[sand lotus]

Congrats on Lady Ada receiving an award from the White House! You honestly deserve it. ❤️

The way Adafruit stepped up to challenges during the pandemic was inspiring. Deserve an award just for the way you operated through it.

[hot frigate]

I'm late to the game, but SpagLEDdi is the one that stands out.

Oo, Illuminoodles is also awesome, perhaps more.

[opaque hearth]

late entries: LumenLace, lumenoodle, and flexi-flux

[waxen bough]

I would shorten it to Luminoodles.

Or... Glowgetti... Led Vines....

Glow Worms!

[lilac tusk]

I like LEDoodles

[sand lotus]

@waxen bough Can't use Glow Worms, it's been copyrighted since the 1980's by PlaySkool.

[spiral vale]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[haughty quiver]

!showtime!

☕

ooh @spiral vale I love that emoji! The coffee emoji looks like two worms gloating over how they have ruined your coffee.

🧋

ahh, much better

[lilac tusk]

Boba tea

[spiral vale]

Jango’s lesser known son

The other Mr.T?

(One of these jokes might work eventually)

[haughty quiver]

haha I'm here for these

[waxen bough]

Isn't there some kind of limitation to Copyrights/Trademarks that you're ok if one usage could not possibly be mistaken for the other? (Of course, I don't know what PlaySkool Glow Worms are... Google Time!)

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/possibly-jango-possibly-jango-fett-star-wars-gif-17549672

[inner spade]

Good to be back in the workshophood again. Waiting for Mr. JP to don the tennis shoes and sweater and sing that sweet makin’ song.

[sand lotus]

Not really worth navigating a potential mine field legal battle with Playskool when other names like illumi-noodle were more highly voted for.

[lavish patrol]

Greetings all. 👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/latte-cappucino-milk-art-pouring-latte-art-gif-16357175

[waxen bough]

FWIW, It looks like the PlaySkool product is "Glo Worm".

[cinder wind]

Time for the show!

[lavish patrol]

Waiting for 🎵 and 🎶 ...

[sand lotus]

Yeah, unsure if it's close enough to be worth it if Playskool wants to take action.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/glow-in-the-dark-stick-man-glowing-walk-walking-gif-17406626

lars walking on forest

[sand lotus]

JP's midi project with the cassette deck is pretty amazing.

Like... who even thinks of doing something like that? lol. JP does.

[drowsy inlet]

"JP's projects are pretty amazing."
Fixed it for ya. 🙂

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[sand lotus]

but does it work with 8-trak?

If JP hasn't done something with 8 track it's just a matter of time.

[ionic garnet]

Hi folks!

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[spiral vale]

👋

[sand lotus]

yeah looks like dirt in a cup with wiggly worms

[lavish patrol]

I like Lars' new hat.

[ionic garnet]

picadilly?

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon all you wonderful folks!

[lavish patrol]

Carnaby Street?

[ionic garnet]

yes I love those LEDs

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-over-the-pet-collective-dog-doggo-playful-gif-16929971

[ionic garnet]

you can find them under What's New

[sand lotus]

i've had my eyes on those skull LED's for a while. trying to figure out a project to use them in.

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

https://www.adafruit.com/new

[shell mason]

those LEDs are cool

[waxen thistle]

Wait, what was the question about London? [i joined a few mins late]

[spiral vale]

someone's getting old eh?

[dusk socket]

they look like they are resin printer

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/subway-minions-underground-tube-london-gif-16562021

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[shell mason]

or have uv light with resing to form

[spiral vale]

🧀!

[waxen thistle]

I can't say I've been to Borough Market, but I've been to the markets at Covent Garden

And Spitalfields too

[sand lotus]

nice demo of the composite nub shank on the monitor in the background.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-gif-18347741

[ionic garnet]

This is a nice feature. I use it with really large arrangements with some rings, matrixes and even strips or fairy lights

[lilac tusk]

I need to try this

[spiral vale]

just gotta have JP sing all the bits instead

[brazen quail]

It's almost like it was designed that way.

[ionic garnet]

I have a number of questions about advanxed use cases that I don't see how to support.

yes overriding it is harder than I'd like

agreed. I use Animations tons

[sand lotus]

i made something similar in Arduino to split 1 LED strip into 2 strings for an audio reactive VU meter. uses fastLED from years ago tho.

[ionic garnet]

I figured that oout once but long gone now

[grand tusk]

What if we did a community project box?

[ionic garnet]

I might have video of my multicomet animations but not source code )-:

[sand lotus]

yeah the guy who developed fastLED died in a boat accident after he criticized elon musk on twitter... true story

[ionic garnet]

what?

that's a scary coincidence

[grand tusk]

Looks like my spine.

[ionic garnet]

looks like a fun device

[sand lotus]

remember that boat in california that caught on fire and everyone got locked inside... the cabin crew bailed and everyone inside died.

yeah he was on that boat

i was heavy into using fastLED at the time so i'll never forget it. my first thought was ok guess i'm going over to adafruit neopixel system now.

[waxen thistle]

https://www.amazon.com/SODAtees-mixtape-cassette-subway-T-Shirt/dp/B07ZC8WBF3

There's also a record LP one -- but that's out of stock.

[sand lotus]

DIY portable mixing board. very cool!

[split gazelle]

cutest little music tech object i've ever seen

[sand lotus]

looks like it would be great as an equalizer too

[cinder wind]

it has modes sure.. but does it have a depeche mode?

[ionic garnet]

who made this?

[waxen thistle]

https://www.musicthing.co.uk/

[ionic garnet]

it is a synth tool so it must

[waxen thistle]

https://16n-faderbank.github.io/

[sand lotus]

i like the small size, would be great for portable setup even for lighting yeah but would want a DMA out for that.

[spiral vale]

SAMD21 also VERY hard to find (as bare chips)

[ionic garnet]

looking at his BUY page now!

[cinder wind]

he just does lots of big orders with Adafruit, gets the free Circuitplayground Express, and hotairs off the SAMD21s

[grand tusk]

Fritter and Waste

[ionic garnet]

or simply wrap your payloads in Midi APIs

[waxen thistle]

We're joking, but it's starting to get bad enough that I've heard some are actually hot-airing chips off boards for parts.

[lavish patrol]

Is that the new fast food outlet in Russia?

[spiral vale]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellotron

[ionic garnet]

I love playing with midi and audio/music production, but I am more of a guitar player. I have some synths, but rarely plug them into my Marshall amp. So whats the point if I can't have those beautiful, dirty, odd harmonics from an analog tube!

[sand lotus]

how did you figure out that a tape recorder could play back different speeds depending on voltage? is that just a known thing that i never knew?

[grand tusk]

My legal team, actually.

[ionic garnet]

I love the sound of a mellotron!

[grand tusk]

Loop your voice, saying womp womp womp.

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[sand lotus]

ahh it has an external potentiometer

i've never seen one like that. only ones i remember came in 2 speeds with no variability.

[grand tusk]

Maybe you could PWM the motor.

[sand lotus]

ahh it's always been there but i never knew. very cool.

[waxen thistle]

Fruit loops.

[cinder wind]

so you could control THREE more tape decks with that quad DAC!

[spiral vale]

polyphony!

[lavish patrol]

Sound's fine.

[waxen thistle]

happy little glissandos

JP is the bob ross of synths

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[waxen thistle]

I love the wooo woooos.....do that in a tritone, and it'll sound like a UK ambulance siren

[inner spade]

Calling Lars’ mother ship. Caution!

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[waxen thistle]

Encounters of the Lars Kind.

[lavish patrol]

Did you see Lars' hat? All he needs now is a saxophone...

[sand lotus]

happy little synths

[cinder wind]

do a drum loop

[drowsy inlet]

I'm half expecting the feed to go to black and white and JP start talking in his Rod Serling voice

[cinder wind]

or vocal samples

[split gazelle]

you can record to both sides, i did that by mistake earlier haha

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/corner-taken-quickly-retro-gif-15990903

I watched batman return lately and it have cool CD player in batcave

[lavish patrol]

When I was a kid me and my siblings recorded a play on a cassette. We didn't realize the batteries were going flat. When we played it back with fresh batteries it sounded like a play done by chipmunks.

[shell mason]

Andy like chip'n dale?

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[inner spade]

Alvin!

[lavish patrol]

Alvin?

[waxen thistle]

Simon and Theodore!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-chip-n-dale-rescue-rangers-surprised-stunned-speechless-gif-25547725

[grand tusk]

Build a QTPY cluster.

[lavish patrol]

Me confused...

[shell mason]

Lars confused?

[waxen thistle]

There was a cartoon back in the 80s/90s called Alvin and the Chipmunks -- three chipmunks who sang songs (pitch shifted voice actors)

[shell mason]

was the i3c the new one what is compatible with i2c

[lavish patrol]

Googling... now I'm up to speed.

[inner spade]

David Seville’s groundbreaking recordings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Bagdasarian

[waxen thistle]

Those two fellas above are from Rescue Rangers the film -- a recent release.... based on Chip & Dale from disney short cartoons (eventually adapted into a 90s cartoon series Chip N' Dale's Rescue Rangers).

[lavish patrol]

Got it - thanks.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/feyresmaid-gif-21529096

[grand tusk]

Eye on NPI recently featured i3c.

[waxen thistle]

"Something just ran out of batteries or happiness." sounds like life sometimes.

[shell mason]

back from break

so things happen for sure

[lavish patrol]

@waxen thistle Also known as Mondays...

[shell mason]

either its batteries or run out of tape

[grand tusk]

Be kind rewind.

[cinder wind]

It's hilarious that JP's adding fake DSP tape warble to his tape audio

[shell mason]

someone could make similar for casette player https://www.ign.com/wikis/the-dark-knight-rises/CD_Player

[spiral vale]

much wow, so flutter

[ionic garnet]

Thank you @haughty quiver . Interesting episode. Me likey

[waxen thistle]

Always a joy to spend an hour with JP and his synths.

[grand tusk]

What if we did a one-off community project box, with all in-stock components?

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @haughty quiver 👍

[split gazelle]

awesome stream @haughty quiver !

[waxen thistle]

Indeed, thanks @haughty quiver for another excellent show!

[spiral vale]

👏👏👏

[haughty quiver]

📼

[inner spade]

Super show today @haughty quiver ! Thanks!

[haughty quiver]

Thanks much all!

[grand tusk]

TY

[waxen thistle]

@haughty quiver I just saw this -- thought it might be up your alley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHKwCUBda8

[haughty quiver]

such a cool device @waxen thistle !

[inner spade]

Hello!

[rapid hornet]

so punctual!

[grand tusk]

hey there!

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim, Scott and all present.

[rapid hornet]

👋

[proper prawn]

This afternoon received a shipment of an order with Adafruit. Among it a Matrix Portal M4, an ESP-Box, colored pushbuttons and various JST / Stemma cables

It's the one with the stand

an ESP32S3

That one is the 'Lite' version

Mine has software buttons

[rapid hornet]

screen does work. I've got one on my desk

[proper prawn]

that's the one received

[rapid hornet]

no stand for the lite version though

[proper prawn]

exact Scott

[nova totem]

I felt similar trying to show off a project with GPS. Plus side it was accurate, downside too accurate

[grand tusk]

Hey, cool! I got an IP address!

[rapid hornet]

auto-wifi is checked into main

not mdns or the http server

different font

oh! this is because it only does one socket at a time

heh

I was thinking we should have them close after each request

(sockets are reused)

I don't know when the browser closes it

[nova totem]

depends on the browser/keep-alive settings

[rapid hornet]

we could also have it handle multiple sockets concurrently

there is an http code for too busy

[nova totem]

503? or something like that. been too long

[brazen grove]

problem is, you need an open socket to send a http reply with the code

[proper prawn]

Ah, nice: circuitpython.org download has also a version for the ESP32-S3 Box

[rapid hornet]

hrm, different board

they are meant to act like USB VID/PID on non-USB boards

should default to USB VID/PID though

did you clean and rebuild?

should be given on the compiler command line

do make ... V=2

to output the command line

it's gated behind BLEIO now

look in supervisor/supervisor.mk

move these out of the if: ```CIRCUITPY_CREATOR_ID ?= $(USB_VID)
CIRCUITPY_CREATION_ID ?= $(USB_PID)
CFLAGS += -DCIRCUITPY_CREATOR_ID=$(CIRCUITPY_CREATOR_ID)
CFLAGS += -DCIRCUITPY_CREATION_ID=$(CIRCUITPY_CREATION_ID)

V=2 is now slowing you down

upload doesn't work

it's txt/py vs other files

download vs view

the server changes the content type

you can host your html locally and do ajax calls to the device

as long as its all http

[proper prawn]

Just flashed the latest CPY onto the ESP-Box

[rapid hornet]

@smoky island don't bother hosting it from cpy now

just use python -m http.server

ya, then just do ajax from there

I was looking at the "Fetch" API

@smoky island I reported that chat and it disappeared for me. I should delete it

ah, its not in "Top chat"

gah, terrible

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Fetch_API

-fetch('https://user:[e-mail]/');-

nope, that won't work

you can disable the auth check 🙂

[nova totem]

I think you would need a CORS header

[rapid hornet]

even with http?

[nova totem]

I believe so. Been a bunch of years since I ran into it at work but external ads had to call us to get an XML file and we needed it and most were HTTP

[rapid hornet]

you can add the cors header 🙂

it'd be nice to get it working

[lilac salmon]

The web server hosting the html file needs to return the CORS header.

[brazen quail]

No country for middle aged peeps.

[rapid hornet]

I was thinking /edit/#<file path>

or maybe just /

the /cp/ stuff is simpler

/cp/version.json

/cp/devices.json

[lyric frost]

Really excited to see this feature develop in CP, dinner bell is ringing though...

[rapid hornet]

I've reworked it more now...

I don't think so

you could add a thing to fs where it will set html content type

for testing

it's memcmp to do a "startwith" sort of thing

strcmp should work for a single path

I was thinking it'd have a # which isn't sent to the server

👍

[cinder wind]

C code? In this decade?! In a CircuitPython livestream!?

[inner spade]

It’s the “C” in CircuitPython.

[rapid hornet]

I need to make /fs/ set html type

then you could edit it on CIRCUITPY

look for .txt

and an if that sets content type

my copy is if (_endswith(filename, ".txt") || _endswith(filename, ".py")) {

next one

    if (_endswith(filename, ".txt") || _endswith(filename, ".py")) {
        _send_str(socket, "Content-Type: text/plain\r\n");
    } else if (_endswith(filename, ".js")) {
        _send_str(socket, "Content-Type: text/javascript\r\n");
    } else if (_endswith(filename, ".html")) {
        _send_str(socket, "Content-Type: text/html\r\n");
    } else if (_endswith(filename, ".json")) {
        _send_str(socket, "Content-Type: application/json\r\n");
    } else {
        _send_str(socket, "Content-Type: application/octet-stream\r\n");
    }

so the browser will load html out of fs

yup

(hope its right)

if we bake an html page in verbatim we can gzip it

browser will ungzip for you

just gotta tell it that its gzipped

ya, sorry. I've got it refactored

will push changes once PUT works

I think you'll want to omit domain

circuitpython.local may work too

[cinder wind]

yes you should not put the host name in local-served URIs

[rapid hornet]

on the command line you can try dig circuitpython.local

to see if it finds the ip

dns lookup

[cinder wind]

dig is swiss- army knife for DNS poking

[rapid hornet]

doesn't look like it worked

you may need to turn on mdns

I had to turn it on with arch

[nova totem]

Can you use the debug screen in the browser to see what its doing?

I typed that and then you opened it 🙂

[proper prawn]

Bedtime here. Tnx Tim, Scott. Have a fine weekend y'all

[rapid hornet]

could be the multi-socket thing again

or maybe credentials

[grand tusk]

Funhouse is fun.

[cinder wind]

Are you doing "Connection: close" header? So the browser won't re-use an open socket for additional requests?

[rapid hornet]

generally no

maybe should be

[cinder wind]

alternatively, is server closing socket at end of response?

[rapid hornet]

also no

I had a problem with closing it too fast

you shouldn't need to manage the credentials yourself afaik

but I haven't tried it

yes

you could try adding the "Connection: close" header to your html blob

in the http headers

before content

[nova totem]

It for sure could delay on closing the connection with keep alives

[rapid hornet]

headers are ended by \r\n\r\n

[cinder wind]

Connection close goes right after the "HTTP" line

[rapid hornet]

(and separated by \r\n)

[cinder wind]

yes in the headers, along with Content-type

make sure \r\n separates each header line

👍

[rapid hornet]

I could add the close connection to every response

but don't want to close on my side

since I can't flush the response

[cinder wind]

It may be interesting to try having the server responding with "HTTP/1.0" instead of "HTTP/1.1". This derates a lot of the fun parallelizing introduced with HTTP/1.1