I've ruined some stacking headers that way myself
#live-broadcast-chat
ionic garnet
midnight plinth
Use a bigger hammer
short chasm
are those low-profile headers?
DC voltage
on the output you should try and get close to 40
lavish patrol
Multimeters still set to AC, @haughty quiver
short chasm
turn the "BOOSTER" switch to on
lavish patrol
That's why lab power supplies are usually limited to 30V.
short chasm
CROSSING MY FINGERS
smoky island
@short chasm nice job with this device / kit! The controls and screen interface are great. I also love the spot broken out for a featherwing to further customize it based on users needs.
lavish patrol
Danger Will Robinson!
dusk socket
your booster is still on
short chasm
the booster switch is still drawing power from usb/battery if left on
inner spade
Dial 91 and wait
viral sail
๐
short chasm
the older phones seems to require a higher voltage than others
ideally, it should be 45
OH, CHECK THE VOLUME ON THE TELEPHONE
the ringer has a turn knob on the bottom
sleek mountain
is the ringer at 75 vdc?
short chasm
look on the bottom of the telephone, the volume wheel
waxen bough
A little reverse-lip-sync? Nice sound effect.
inner spade
Does your linemanโs phone tester have a ringer?
cinder wind
looks like it crashed. the display is showing the REPL?
short chasm
try the american ring again
grand tusk
I was messing with the phone line when a call came through. Ouch!
somber obsidian
Yes, I think it modulates the red wire typically (which also carries power, mic/ear... the works)
inner spade
Just checked: newer butt sets have electronic ringers.
short chasm
be careful with the voltage
light stump
USB access is the bane of smooth display animation. Thereโs probably some intelligent way to disable USB access in code, but I just keep a basic charger nearby that I use to verify whether its something to do with the computerโs USB access slowing things down.
short chasm
i was on last week with you
midnight plinth
short chasm
March 16
inner spade
Could be possible that the Feather GPIO pin signals arenโt getting to the motor controller โcause of selective socket issues.
grand tusk
Test one stage at a time.
short chasm
cinder wind
I thought ringer voltage was 100VAC
inner spade
May have been just one of the PWM h-bridge pins rather than both.
lavish patrol
John Park's Extended Workshop. ๐
viral sail
Fun project. Thanks @haughty quiver . Have a good weekend.
short chasm
thanks JP!
lavish patrol
Thanks @haughty quiver ๐
ionic garnet
Good stuff. Thank @short chasm and @haughty quiver
smoky island
Thanks JP, great show. I am inspired to get a kit to work on now.
clever summit
Nice one JP!
smoky island
Yep Deep Dive tomorrow at 2pm PST
drowsy inlet
very cool. thank you.
split gazelle
great stream @haughty quiver !
inner spade
Thatโs a very nice kit! Our local theater group will need a couple.
split gazelle
looking forward to the deep dive @smoky island !
midnight plinth
Interesting show, thanks much. Bye John.
inner spade
Thanks @haughty quiver . Really enjoy workshop build projects.
haughty quiver
thanks all, I'm off to the thrift store for a newer old phone ๐
clear matrix
thanks all, I'm off to the thrift store for a newer old phone ๐
And the 10 other things you find that it turns out you neeeeeeed.
grand tusk
John Park's High Voltage Workshop
haughty quiver
hmm, on @short chasm 's suggestion I just checked the motor controller output and only getting 37VAC, so something is up
short chasm
i just checked mine with a multimeter and it's showing a bunch of different values, with a max of 45vac, so i'm thinking the multimeter may not be a proper way to measure the signal and that an oscilloscope would be necessary in this case.
isn't troubleshooting electronics fun?
clear matrix
Always! ๐
vale ridge
I can't wait until John Park does ring generator remixes/djing with them
shell mason
need more voltage for old one
short chasm
I hacked the boost module last night to get more voltage out of it. ๐ค
Previous max was 40V. The boost chip can do up to 60V. I stopped at 50V until I replace the 50V capacitor ๐คฃ
shell mason
improving the product
sudden gate
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turbid hill
Looks like the bot is working
smoky island
Notes doc for todays Deep Dive is here if anyone is interested in helping with timestamps it's always much appreciated: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GWlGFUlJNMaWw7r7KsLHv8LOn3XzxcW55epeRbN30pU/edit?usp=sharing
turbid hill
Hey @smoky island you said I believe you work for a digital signage company, I work for Userful which one do you work for just curios
inner spade
Hello!
nova totem
I am glad it is Friday
brazen grove
bon soir
modern night
Hi all, hope everyone here is having a good day!
grand tusk
Howdy
inner spade
TGIDD (deep dive)
eager matrix
Hi Tim.
turbid hill
oh noes 3.5 mins what will we ever do
wide sable
close call ๐ almost as bad as a lego ๐คฃ
modern night
Oh, you added sneaker-net networking to the qtpy! Looking forward to seeing that pull request ๐
inner spade
I had this problem with a QT Py yesterday.
Solder joints look okay.
eager matrix
I think this proves that Bill Gates is trying to control my mind.
wide sable
you can also add a lot of piezos to power your qt py - screw lipos and power banks!
brazen grove
IT'S A ME, VICTORIO!
turbid hill
Could you not use polygon for all shapes including circle and rectangle
inner spade
Iโve used polygon for arcs. Lots of points.
wind spoke
I was a certified Cisco trainer, in the class that explain IP address, the instructor guide was advising not to say it is math as a percentage of american do block if you tell them it is math...
You are not doing geometry, you are doing drawing. ๐
halcyon linden
did you pick which palette to use?
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado. :-D
grand tusk
We all use math every day.
brazen grove
or is it the math that uses us
inner spade
You can count on it.
wind spoke
It felt like the mouse pointer was in displayio... you got me.
inner spade
First tuple in list is anchor point
turbid hill
in CAD I believe they refer that to your reference origin co-ordinates
wind spoke
So the positive quadran is bottom right, and 0,0 is on the top left of your screen in displayio.
inner spade
Ah, the anchor point is the plane not the object
So x and y are plane origin offsets
wind spoke
Wondering if ulab can help apply that rotation matrix to a large number of coordinate...
brazen grove
you could also zoom it in the same operation
smoky island
wind spoke
Could you make your square less squarish so that it is more clear where is "north"?
nova totem
matrix math and rotations... i'm having flashbacks to creating games
wind spoke
two pi is a full turn (or something like that).
wide sable
maybe a function to convert degrees to radians and back in the library as a static function?
brazen grove
the math module already has degrees and radians functions that do that
inner spade
Radians are measured along the circumference of a unit circle. 360 degrees = 2 * pi
Unit circle has a radius of 1
turbid hill
shall we toss grads into the mix
nova totem
I'm impressed how fast the rotation is happening
wind spoke
shall we toss grads into the mix
Only if it is tardi grad.
turbid hill
In trigonometry, the gradian, also known as the gon grad, or grade, is a unit of measurement of an angle, defined as one hundredth of the right angl
wide sable
is the rotation slowing down? maybe the rotation is getting to a pretty big number, could just reset it back to 0 once you hit 360
brazen grove
In trigonometry, the gradian, also known as the gon grad, or grade, is a unit of...
so it's 90/100 of a degree?
wind spoke
celsius joke: right angle boil at 90 degrees
inner spade
This is really cool. Great addition for vectorio shapes.
brazen grove
just do % 360 on it
turbid hill
400 grads to full circle it's metric
brazen grove
how many undergrads though
turbid hill
lol
brazen grove
uhh, do the conversion to radians once, please
wind spoke
Maybe you can compute once the cos/sin, and then reuse it to avoid doing the math each time...
brazen grove
theta
actually you can calculate cos() and sin() once, and use them twice
you can calculate sin and cos outside of the loop
inner spade
Change _rotation_degrees to _rotation_radians
wind spoke
Is that on the "stack" of in the "heap"?
wind spoke
You compute it for every point... rather than once and then apply for each point.
nova totem
There is a whole world of optimizations about this sort of thing. Everyone wants that extra 1fps
wide sable
maybe creating an array of fixed size ([0] * array_len) and assigning the values at index is faster then making an empty list and appending?
brazen grove
There is a whole world of optimizations about this sort of thing. Everyone wants...
CORDIC is fun to implement
wide sable
not sure if the time lost from creating an empty array is faster
(in relation to my previous message)
inner spade
Wish list: rotate object along the edge of another vectorio object.
brazen grove
not sure if the time lost from creating an empty array is faster
(in relation to...
you can use list comprehension
grand tusk
Just put some dexter sliders on the touchscreen.
nova totem
I ran into issues extending a core class to another core subclass. I think you can extend a core class to a python subclass
inner spade
Wish list: rotate object along the edge of another vectorio object.
Define a vectorio circle then position and rotate a polygon along the circleโs edge
brazen grove
Define a vectorio circle then position and rotate a polygon along the circleโs e...
I would say just put the rotation point in the circle's center
nova totem
If you're getting stuck ping me here, it has been a while since I looked at it but shouldn't be hard to recall again if I start poking at it
inner spade
I would say just put the rotation point in the circle's center
Thinking about a polygon running around another polygon (path)
brazen grove
Thinking about a polygon running around another polygon (path)
path is hard, you need the derivative
inner spade
path is hard, you need the derivative
Thinking that the path points (pixels) are already defined within the underlying path object
brazen grove
that math is just the formula for the circle
brazen grove
Thinking that the path points (pixels) are already defined within the underlying...
the derivative gives you the angle to rotate to
it's exactly as you said, you get used to it if you practice
wide sable
circuitpython-based graphing calculator when ๐คฃ
brazen grove
circuitpython-based graphing calculator when ๐คฃ
it exists
brazen grove
circuitpython-based graphing calculator when ๐คฃ
wide sable
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3790
I more meant something like a graphing calculator on say the PyPortal which is much cheaper then this calculator - but this looks cool!
grand tusk
๐ ๐๐
upper sandal
also it's not based on CP, it has a samd21 co processor to run python in (the TI)
it's an environment to do python in your calculator
modern night
I got to talk with someone on that TI calculator team, they looked at circuit and micropython to figure out how to do some things, but it's their own subset of python too
wind spoke
NumWorks is French...
brazen grove
I don't know
wind spoke
There is a free emulator for the NumWorks, I think on phones. That way you can test the thing before investing.
wide sable
Unfortunately the NumWorks calculator is also discontinued on Adafruit, but the emulator works
brazen grove
if it's french, they probably do angles in metric ;-)
upper sandal
Adafruit got to ask a few questions to the TI team and got answers vetted by the marketing department
wide sable
(There's a website emulator and apparently a link to download it - didn't look into it that far)
brazen grove
I think the problem with making a real circuitpython calculator is that you can't really inject keypresses into the repl, because your program is not running...
wide sable
(On Adafruit lol - didn't look much farther)
upper sandal
nova totem
I think you would either need to change the core, or when usb host is out if the keys are its own device
brazen grove
you can't
wide sable
You could just use eval (is that available on CircuitPython?) and have the text be editable on the calculator OR a file outside of main.py which is loaded when you press say a button "Run"
upper sandal
you can run a command line in your CP app
brazen grove
You _could_ just use `eval` (is that available on CircuitPython?) and have the t...
yeah, there are workarounds possible, but it's not straighforward
@smoky island only you can see the messages
wide sable
Huh on YouTube it says [message deleted] and takes up space for me
Not like Discord deleting messages
upper sandal
you can reload the chat in youtube to make them disappear, or change the "top chat" menu on top
brazen grove
imo not worth the mental load
upper sandal
but they didn't disappear on their own
wide sable
For Discord, discord.py is back now so you can use that for your viewer-controlled PyPortal
inner spade
Rainbow saw blade
inner spade
Equivalent screen, no MCU: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3651
upper sandal
brazen grove
more pixels to send to the display
modern night
almost a kingfisher/bird like design for that one
grand tusk
What about Voronoi diagrams?
inner spade
Just two points in the polygon will draw a single pixel line
inner spade
I see a kaleidoscope learning guide on the horizon
A 3-d printed mount for a Pynt
Internet connected
wind spoke
Does Adafruit sell circular screen?
left pier
Does Adafruit sell circular screen?
LOL, I was just looking for that. I don't see one.
turbid hill
It was me
left pier
I do think they exist
wind spoke
I do think they exist
I know Pimoroni has one...
inner spade
Digi-Key has round TFTs
wind spoke
Watch... are circular.
turbid hill
ok
wind spoke
async vectorio
nova totem
If they're looking for an example my turn timer is on github now with a few moving parts (but haven't wrote any instructions yet)
modern night
oh neat--that's a project I've been meaning to do.
Does displayio/vectorio make it easy to add graphs? (I want to use the display to toggle to an updating graph)
left pier
I'd like to do gauges and a control panel
grand tusk
That sounds cool!
modern night
That's a really awesome goal!
inner spade
oh neat--that's a project I've been meaning to do.
Does displayio/vectorio make ...
With displayio and vectorio
modern night
With displayio and vectorio
This is perfect! Thank you!
left pier
I'll check that out !
brazen grove
goodnight
modern night
That'll either give me what I need, or give me a format that I can make a pull request to bring in. Thanks for pointing it out! And CGrover thanks for showing me that display you made!
clever summit
๐ ๐ธ๐ช
inner spade
This is perfect! Thank you!
And an animated gauge.
modern night
And an animated gauge.
that looks really nice!
inner spade
that looks really nice!
Thanks!
inner spade
Yes, custom pcb for load cell 24-bit ADC
left pier
Everything in React Native ๐
modern night
asyncio+pulling adafruitio sensor values would be neat, but it sounds awesome regardless
fresh flame
left pier
Screens, Navigation Stacks, etc...
modern night
Thanks for the stream! These displays are really fun to poke around with!
left pier
Very cool Foamy! Great stream!
inner spade
Thanks for the stream @smoky island !
smoky island
Thanks all, hope everyone has a great weekend!
wide sable
Thanks!!
turbid hill
yep
dim wigeon
Good morning, @smoky island (and everyone)!
smoky island
Starting up the stream in just a moment. Developing a PagedLayout widget today. Hang out here in chat and follow along on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6xqVXEG0PM or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
inner spade
Good morning!
clever summit
Hey Tim!
Seems I managed to catch the stream today, was a bit "short" yesterday. ๐
dim wigeon
As analogized with terms like TileLayout or GridLayout or FlowLayout, I think PageLayout makes sense.
noble grove
Good morning.
clever summit
So what do you call the layout that looks like you just emptied a box of LEGOs on the floor?
dim wigeon
@clever summit HodgePodgeLayout? ๐
noble grove
Yeah, I caught the last 10 minutes yesterday. Got off work at 4. Home by 5. (Eastern)
noble grove
Lots of us in the Eastern time zone, no doubt.
clever summit
Did you switch to daylight savings already?
inner spade
Are you thinking that pages stack and overlap using the same xy origin and borders?
noble grove
Yeah. Toronto.
clever summit
We switch tonight. As it it isn't confusing enough with all time zones.
clever summit
EU was supposed to switch to non daylight savings, but then covid happened.
Well, didn't change anything it just got postponed.
clever summit
EU was just letting the individual countries select what they wanted as the permanent one, which could very well mean that we end up with CET being 2 different times.
noble grove
Lagging. Anybody else?
dim wigeon
@noble grove yup
clever summit
Hoooo - Stream acted up and it switched to 144p. I thought I forgot to put my glasses on! ๐
clever summit
Not sure who 144p is for though. It's just a blur.
clever summit
I switched back to 1080p, no issues.
inner spade
1080p working here too
Thought that groups resolve to lists under the covers; no major memory issues since Python is โtunedโ for dictionaries and list structures.
clever summit
So what CP function should I use to measure how long my WiFi takes to connect?
noble grove
timer.timer?
noble grove
I believe so.
noble grove
Sorry timeit
May be more appropriate for benchmarking
timeit (Python module, in timeit โ Measure execution time of small code snippets)
Maybe it imports something else that IS used. I see that in examples sometimes.
Comment it out and see if something breaks.
Don't pay too much attention to me. I AM a NOVICE. I just have a gift for asking 'rogue' (stupid) questions that occasionally trigger novel/lateral thinking.
Obviously.
Buffer under-run? Too few arguments?
FIFO with FI slower than FO
inner spade
With a stop at end/beginning or loop around option?
clever summit
I got me some FeatherS2 Neo from UnexpectedMaker. Got a 5x5 neopixel matrix on it.
Any cool ideas what I should make?
noble grove
Conways Life?
clever summit
Kinda small for that? ๐
Conways life was the first graphics thing I ever made. On a 1 MHz CMOS processor, all written in BASIC.
noble grove
put nine of them side by side. (grid)
clever summit
It was so slow that I had to learn assembler....
So Life was the first thing I wrote in assembler as well.
noble grove
Well there are faster and slower implementations...
clever summit
Using BASIC is never the fastest? Lol.
noble grove
No, but you could use a faster language and inspect every cell and add up the neighbors then decide whether there will be a live cell there. LOTS of duplicate and useless work.
and it would still be slow.
clever summit
Yep. This was my first steps in writing code so I am sure my algorithm was less than "optimal".
The assembler version was nice though, I reached 2 fps which was the goal.
Oh, TinyS(2)nake!
clever summit
Lol
noble grove
I don't get to use 'pesimal' very often
always loved that word
I understand it was popular back in the days when memory was spinning magnetic drums (not storage, memory)
used to describe choice of memory locations which would get accessed JUST AFTER they passed the read head.
To create time delays without the use of NOPs or IFs
clever summit
Ah, that gives a totally different meaning to "optimizing code". Taking care of actual moving parts!
noble grove
Yeah, optimal would be locating a memory location so it would be accessed just before the read head got there. less optimal would access it a half rotation before it got to the read head and pesimal would make the drum go around almost twice.
clever summit
Or just lower the intensity in code? ๐
noble grove
Wax on. Wax off.
clever summit
Yep, did lower it to 10%, was kinda perfect.
noble grove
Something has to draw the background if it's hidden
inner spade
So that objects can hide in a non-hidden group
noble grove
When an object goes from non-hidden to hidden, who actually writes the background in its place?
or are behind it
modern night
afternoon! Hope the stream's been well!
inner spade
Can a vectorio object have a fill color of None (transparent)?
noble grove
So display refresh re-writes everything from background to front.
modern night
oh nice! That makes swapping between what you're working on nice and easy
clever summit
So not an alpha channel?
noble grove
So you would have to calculate the resulting colour yourself.
clever summit
Which makes antialiasing difficult.
noble grove
So a pallet of 8 colours, plus 64 blended colours.
Understood
Well you could use that pallet for alpha and/or anti-aliasing
You'd still have to implement it all yourself.
Complexity of anti-aliasing would be alpha squared.
I suspect
maybe only double
clever summit
Larry Banks recently added support for antialiazed text in Adafruit_GFX.
Uses a 2x font.
I wouldn't even want to think of the complexity of trying to do that on anything but pixel sized fonts. ๐
modern night
Have a great day and thanks for the stream! Enjoy the sunny weekend!
dim wigeon
Have a great day, all!
inner spade
Thanks for the stream. Learned some new stuff. Got to go make some code changes now.
inner spade
Overcast, but weโre fairly confident the sun is up there somewhere.
noble grove
There's definitely something very bright up there. Might be a luminous turtle.
(it's also turtles all the way UP)
Down is four infinite stacks of turtles. One under each foot of the elephant.
Or maybe it's a tapir. The images are blurry.
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - Busy week, lots of revisions & some interesting new chips https://youtu.be/92-GZ1T66_k
opaque hearth
Good Evening! โ
pearl shoal
howdy folks
ionic garnet
Hi all
dim wigeon
Hi everyone!
pearl shoal
Google Authenticator isn't that bad either
Very frustrated on the RPis... we had this great conversation about this basic problem lots of eye-gaze users have and how "all you need" is a Raspberry Pi + OpenCV... https://www.facebook.com/groups/ATMakers/posts/1326659797745456/ Just to have Pi's become Unobtainium
๐ก
So, I'm glad for your plan (and watching for back-in-stock updates)
ohhhhh... suction tube connection (good for sip & puff devices!)
viral sail
Apollo-era
open girder
Computers: Their History and how They Work by Richard B. Rusch (1969) https://awfullibrarybooks.net/ye-olde-computer-book/
pearl shoal
Cracker Barrel lemon-pepper grilled trout - yummy.
ionic garnet
had momma's blueberry pancakes last night
hasty frigate
I wonder if there is a Guinness record for youngest autobiography?
open girder
limor went for the fried chicken
pearl shoal
good with the white gravy ๐
echo canopy
Question
The Adafruit TSC2007 I2C Resistive Touch Screen Controller would it be horrible to use liquid electrical tape Over the ribbon to connect the touch screen for a little support from it coming out ? Anything better to use ? @open girder 
open girder
yep
dim wigeon
I was thinking once that a core memory FeatherWing would be neat.
open girder
@echo canopy will get to that one after the great search
viral sail
Thanks and good night. ๐
ionic garnet
goodnight!
pearl shoal
Bye folks
tepid steppe
Lady Ada, thanks for referencing my article, "One Bit Ferrite Core Memory" (see https://sites.google.com/site/wayneholder/one-bit-ferrite-core-memory) It's now been nearly 10 years since I wrote it, and many other people have managed to replicate and extend on my approach. However, while I'm no expert, I do believe that the kinds of toroids used for winding inductors and transformers will not work in this application. It is my understanding that the cores used in magnetic memory are made from a type of "hard" ferrite whereas those used for other applications use "soft" ferrite cores. Iron oxide is a type of hard ferrite and has also used in making magnetic tape.
BTW, I do still have a rather large supply of the cores I used so, if you, or anyone else, is interested in experimenting with magnetic core memory, I'd be happy to share some of the ones I have. Please contact me at questions4wayne@gmail.com if interested.
teal river
Life has been ahhh and a LOT going on
still a lot going on, missing pings
Also I didn't realize I hadn't been in here for 4 months
midnight plinth
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wind spoke
Lady Ada, thanks for referencing my article, "One Bit Ferrite Core Memory" (see ...
Found this: https://youtu.be/HPT7Wtp3yoo
teal river
Magnetic memory :D
Rope memory
I want to make rope memory one day
That sounds so cool! I hope you're able to find her eventually
Ah...
wind spoke
Let me remove anything not related to the topic and share this link: http://www.dublinmaker.ie/meet-the-maker-core-rope-memory/
That jewellery is still in development, but In my quest to create a readable piece of Core Rope Memory (which is now working, come and see it at my Dublin Maker Stall!) Iโve learned how to solder, how to program an Arduino, some things about integrated circuits, and so much more. You can see some of the development process on my blog: http://www.timui.org/p/core-rope-memory.html Unfortunately that blog has dissapear: http://www.timui.org/p/core-rope-memory.html but the wayback machine has a copy: http://web.archive.org/web/20160203182256/http://www.timui.org/p/core-rope-memory.html
teal river
Yay Wayback!
wind spoke
This is interesting too http://www.righto.com/2019/07/software-woven-into-wire-core-rope-and.html ... I tried to contact the maker, but it should be possible to rebuild that concept based on the blog post I found. It use a 5 bit code and each "core" represent one letter. I guess you have to scan 5 time each, and depending it the wire is in or out it is a zero or a one.
teal river
That Apollo Guidance Computer is actually where I first learned about core rope memory! I find it to be a fascinating idea to make software by hand
haughty quiver
hello!
shell mason
๐ช
viral sail
Good afternoon.
glass stag
Good afternoon.
opaque hearth
Ytube Bleepage!
inner spade
Hello! Checking my NeoPixel strips for faces now. Yikes! Lars!
tacit garnet
Light me up.
haughty quiver
hahaha he's everywhere @inner spade
ionic garnet
hi peeps
shadow epoch
Hi!
shell mason
cinder wind
stop eating LED strips, John. we've talked about this
shell mason
inner spade
Had to stop eating lunch for a bit. Gag reflex.
shell mason
kinda magic trick from johnpark to get those neopixels
shell mason
Had to stop eating lunch for a bit. Gag reflex.
because of the John Neopixel showing?
cinder wind
but how much for the non-digested LED strips?
ionic garnet
there should be an additional discount on partially digested!
shell mason
very well digested neopixel strips
ionic garnet
thanks John
shell mason
digested discount during livestream
inner spade
Civit NeoPixels.
shadow epoch
That's going to mess up the peg board!
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
opaque hearth
later gators!
inner spade
Thanks @haughty quiver !
ionic garnet
next time it is
shell mason
grand tusk
Unsavory
rocky reef
Hi folks, reminder no 3D Hangouts today (Spring Break) We'll be on Show and Tell later tonight!
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
nova totem
Hello!
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/st6p5ggrsk
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/108wm1kgq6U
alpine radish
This is.....Different ๐
split gazelle
good evening folks
alpine radish
'evening!
open surge
Hey everyone
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D
smoky island
Hello everyone ๐
inner spade
Hello!
alpine radish
slow spire
Hi, all!
robust horizon
open surge
only 23 hours to go on my Watchmen slipcover print! Thank you for sharing that
robust horizon
look for it in a learn guide soon, I guess!
nova totem
I already love that cube
smoky island
Great idea with the magnet tabs to close and attach things! This cube it going to be so awesome.
slow spire
Noe & Pedro didn't say "snap fit" at all. Blink twice if everything's OK.
split gazelle
looks great @smoky island
alpine radish
Did I share my stupid video with y'all last week? (if so I'm not spamming it again)
open surge
nice work @smoky island!
split gazelle
i am deeply intrigued ๐ฅ
ionic garnet
Howdy all
slow spire
LOL!
split gazelle
yay!
ionic garnet
in the name of science
open surge
lol, that's awesome
ionic garnet
have it spray frosting
slow spire
Simone Giertz would probably love this.
nova totem
Thanks, now I have to find some more towels
viral sail
Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.
alpine radish
@nova totem Nice! I think next year you need a projectile launcher of some sort ๐
upbeat coral
Thanks to all for taking time for us.
smoky island
Hooray. Great projects everyone! ๐
split gazelle
fantastic projects everyone!
ionic garnet
see you in ~10
robust horizon
happy birthday @nova totem
noble grove
Greetings from the Great Sleet North!
nova totem
happy birthday <@!228322543507865601>
Thanks, hard to find something better to do then show up here
robust horizon
how many months until spring?
noble grove
lol
split gazelle
happy birthday @nova totem ! your project was very entertaining
noble grove
Groundhog messed up this year, said early spring.
ionic garnet
Spring is more or less here in the northeast. Some days below average, some above.
in Massachusetts
noble grove
Tomorrow is supposed to be nice here.
ionic garnet
I enjoyed this winter. Enough snow to be pretty but not too much insane cold. I am so ready for Spring now tho
robust horizon
there are some teasingly nice days here in nebraka but then you'll get a day of extreme wind and it's just not pleasant even if it's in the 50s
ionic garnet
yeah same here
A couple of days ago temps were well above freezing but it was unbearable to walk outside due to ice cold winds
robust horizon
wind ripped off part of the eaves on the next door neighbor's house yesterday
noble grove
Supposed to be 16 (61) in Toronto. Freezing rain this morning.
robust horizon
Since you wanna talk C, tomorrow's forecast to be -4 for a low and 11 for a high
ionic garnet
I walk 2-4 miles a day so I try to enjoy whatever weather
robust horizon
if the wind would just take a break that'd be fine but it won't
ionic garnet
i know
Mon and Tues this week I had to hold my scarf over my face at 2pm in the afternoon cuz the wind was so cold
noble grove
Yeah, wind blows.
robust horizon
I try to get out for 2+ miles most days but in the cold months it's easy to talk myself out of it
ionic garnet
I need an expression for "chuckled out loud"
ionic garnet
I try to get out for 2+ miles most days but in the cold months it's easy to talk...
I have a little doggy to remind me she HAS to go outside!
noble grove
loq?
ionic garnet
i'm too old to invent memes or hip stuff!
Back in my day you had to make a real face with your face to show expression to people!!!
slow spire
And then fax it.
turbid hill
lol
ionic garnet
that was a different body part!
noble grove
Back when Smiley was somebody's nickname.
turbid hill
deep space nine
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 3/30/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/siXzRzfZI2U
turbid hill
alternate universe
noble grove
And emoticon was a useless transformer.
ionic garnet
great audio
turbid hill
lol
slow spire
Coffee โ Airpods โ Here we go!
robust horizon
hi again!
slow spire
Wait, there's a silicon shortage?
ionic garnet
trendsetters you are
noble grove
I did 2FA long ago.
turbid hill
Adafruit made a lot of news on various news pages about this
ionic garnet
It makes good sense
slow spire
Yep, 2FA for a long time for me, too.
upbeat coral
Yep 2FA when they first offered it.
ionic garnet
I only enabled it on Adafruit a week or two ago but use it for all types of accounts
open girder
Thank you for supporting Adafruit, a NYC, USA manufacturing company! https://www.adafruit.com Please pick up something to keep us going ๐
10% discount code, code is: resistivetsc
turbid hill
A lot of Russian core memory on Ebay
noble grove
Did you find out if ferrite works?
turbid hill
I believe the core rings are made of ferrite
slow spire
@haughty quiver demos using a NeoPixel strip internally. Probably not recommended.
robust horizon
@slow spire if you hear anything about the "neopixel cleanse", it's not a science-based therapy and I don't think you should try it
slow spire
@robust horizon I'll just say that I live in Northern California.
noble grove
AF has UV neopixel strips
nova totem
happy birthday <@!228322543507865601> ! your project was very entertaining
Thanks! Entertaining was what I was going for, I'm not sure if it has much practical use.
robust horizon
the audio's gone a bit funky!
noble grove
That's a curious effect
ionic garnet
can't hear you PT
finite inlet
Mute ๐
turbid hill
read lips
brazen quail
Anybody running one of the QT PY's via inductive charging yet ? (sans batteries)
noble grove
It was feedback
ionic garnet
we hear you now
turbid hill
no your sped up video clobered your audio
noble grove
You're good now
echo canopy
I can hear you
slow spire
@open girder The sped up video clip you showed had audio. That's why. Fine now.
open girder
ah
ionic garnet
I don't think so. I think the problem was the output volune on video playback was too loud
bingo
slow spire
cool cool
noble grove
SUBMIT!
slow spire
@ionic garnet Need a livecast bingo card.
ionic garnet
<@!829085513221800048> Need a livecast bingo card.
the next killer app
open girder
oh, i see, er hear... it was 2 video sources and 2 audio, whoops
welp
thanks ya'll, will edit in post ๐
wait, it's all live ๐
dim knot
ionic garnet
totally awesome for educational usage
upbeat coral
I still have my two free full year cards that came with Adabox's.
smoky island
Awww, I love this wipper snapper turtle ๐ข
ionic garnet
the turtle rocks
robust horizon
it supports several non-native footboards, whatever those are .. and that's your automatic closed caption "what" of the broadcast.
upper sandal
I did use WipperSnapper earlier this year with a QTPY ESP32S2 and a Stemma QT temperature sensor to monitor, well temperature next to my bed voer the night for a check
ionic garnet
Mariupol was leveled
finite inlet
Dang ๐
ionic garnet
A square where I like to hang out calledFreedom Sq in Kharkiv., Ukraine was hit by a cruise missile live on the news while I watched. It was devastating. I speak with my Ukrainian colleagues everyday. Their spirit is inspirational.
this is the place
such a beautiful country
I thought you said the "Intel Horoscope"!!!
dim knot
ionic garnet
I am so happy for Scott and his partner!
calm sphinx
Woohoo! Congrats to the new family ๐๐ผ also I canโt wait for baby adabot and the entire crewโs baby versions ๐ฅณ๐
open girder
muppet babies vibes for sure ๐
delicate fractal
I don't know what/how, but when it comes time to rebuild Ukraine, I want to be able to help out...
ionic garnet
I love this!
inner spade
Fantastic project @split gazelle! Love the use of the BlitzCity color palette.
split gazelle
Fantastic project <@!347203168121126912>! Love the use of the BlitzCity color pa...
Thank you! It was super fun to work on ๐บ
ionic garnet
I saw this when it first aired and blown away @split gazelle
smoky island
Great job on the video synth project @split gazelle! I kind of want to build that controller and hook up the sliders and encoders to change drawings made with displayio and vectorio in CircuitPython.
grand tusk
Cats and Pizza!
split gazelle
I saw this when it first aired and blown away <@!347203168121126912>
Thank you!!
ionic garnet
I don't know what/how, but when it comes time to rebuild Ukraine, I want to be a...
I'm CTO of a company with a couple hundred people who are/were based in Ukraine and I travel there frequently
split gazelle
Great job on the video synth project <@!347203168121126912>! I kind of want to b...
Thanks! I was thinking the same thing with vectorio! Itโd be great to do a fully CircuitPython version
ionic garnet
I tried out vectorio this week
I went to the module source to see the features
it was a bit slow but that is more or less expected
urban gale
I always wondered how many testing rigs Adafruit used for all those products
ionic garnet
I didn't try it on an m4 yet. Wonder if that would be better. I believe I used an RP2040 and ESP32-S2
by slow I mean to simulate movement
grand tusk
I like vectorio on the broadcom board.
ionic garnet
which broadcom board?
grand tusk
Raspberry pi zero.
grand tusk
HDMI
ionic garnet
I only tested on mcu
smoky island
There is definitely room for improvement on the smoothness of animations. It seems to depend on a few things like the size of the display and the size of the shapes as well as how far they move. Some movements end up smoother than others. But on microcontrollers it will likely always be limited by the power of the CPU but perhaps there are some gains to be made in the core code to smooth it out some in the future.
cinder wind
Wait, did TRON fight PT at the end of that movie?
ionic garnet
There is definitely room for improvement on the smoothness of animations. It see...
no doubt. It was a little jerky. I had no real use case. I just took demos or examples I found and modified and added movement of the shapes.
open girder
SEE YOU ON THE GAME GRID
ionic garnet
just to explore the module
smoky island
also it seems like overlapping might play into it, some of the animations I've done smooth out when the shapes aren't overlapping, but seem to slow down when they are. I haven't done quantitative measurements though to figure out if this is real or just my perception.
ionic garnet
I avoided intersecting shapes in my first tests
I simply set each shape on a small journey through predetermined x,y pairs
I also played with John Park's circle/oval diagram
slow spire
That looks like a little robot or hoverboard.
ionic garnet
it does
slow spire
also it seems like overlapping might play into it, some of the animations I've d...
Perhaps there are some potential optimizations; maybe collecting the dirty areas and updating as a group, so there's less updating of overlapping areas.
ionic garnet
Perhaps there are some potential optimizations; maybe collecting the dirty areas...
for sure. there are layers that will never need to be rendered but many systems render anyway in the order programmed and skip such optimizations. They can be massive gains for the most extreme cases
I used to write graphics engines in the early PC days for games
smoky island
Perhaps there are some potential optimizations; maybe collecting the dirty areas...
I think that displayio does track dirty areas currently though I'm not familiar with all of the internals yet.
robust horizon
The datasheet says "thermal sensor element" so I'm guessing that the moving air cools the fins, and the temperature difference between the fins and a reference location is compared... then, algorithms
slow spire
@smoky island Maybe there's a way to turn off auto updating, then manually trigger an update once all shapes are drawn.
grand tusk
Ah, math.
ionic garnet
<@!382939733107408897> Maybe there's a way to turn off auto updating, then manua...
that would be ideal because ultimately you want to build the display in memory and then bitblit it. Python isn't ideal for that though
slow spire
Yeah, double-buffering would be nice, of course, but MCUs, even ARM, can exhaust memory pretty quickly that way, and no doubt people would try to get it working on an M0. ๐
Hope Teddy gets off the vent soon.
cinder wind
I wish CircuitPython had a constant-framerate framebuffer mode for dealing with displays (like what we have in Arduino basically), maybe with a series of buffers & callbacks. probably not possible, but it makes many kinds of games very difficult without it
ionic garnet
Yeah, double-buffering would be nice, of course, but MCUs, even ARM, can exhaust...
perhaps. If you had to store static images to blit. But a technique we use a lot in systems for Windows/Mac involve just a couple of screenfull buffers that we render into and then at some frequency blit the entire view
dim knot
Da Share Zone NFT Women's S Tee + Accessories Bundle - Women's Small https://www.adafruit.com/product/5339
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Adafruit ESP32-S2 Feather - 2 MB PSRAM and STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5000
Reverse Mount Tactile Switch Buttons - 6mm square - 10 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5410
ionic garnet
I wish CircuitPython had a constant-framerate framebuffer mode for dealing with ...
for sure. This is the problem with all the advanced display patterns. They all require a different design pattern that is closer to the hardware
cinder wind
raise-the-roof buttons ๐คทโโ๏ธ
dim knot
MicroPython Pyboard Lite v1.0 - STM32F411 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5417
IDE Molex 4-pin Plug Cable - 30cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5391
smoky island
<@!382939733107408897> Maybe there's a way to turn off auto updating, then manua...
Yep, I think that is correct. There is ability to shut off the auto-updating and micromanage it more specifically to start refreshes when you want. Kmatch has used this technique in some of the displayio widgets I think.
slow spire
raise-the-roof buttons ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Could also be used for a meh button.
dim knot
Solderless Breadboard for Raspberry Pi Pico by Monk Makes https://www.adafruit.com/product/5422
Adafruit TSC2007 I2C Resistive Touch Screen Controller - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5423
slow spire
@open girder Opportunity for a perma-proto, or maybe just adhesive labels for a perma-proto.
ionic garnet
I love products that tell me the gpio pinout
turbid hill
Question: On the various I2C capable device's/boards that have solder pads to change the address of the I2C could those pads be made to fit a 0.65mm or 1.27mm or 2.54mm pitch so that we could solder SMD jumper block or SMD switch's to the pads, can this be done when you do the PCB layouts. I realize there might be space constraints on the small sensor boards.
cinder wind
That Pico breadboard makes me mad. Raspberry Pi could've put the silkscreen on the top. Sigh. I just don't understand
urban gale
I feel that I'm now prepared to care for sick care bears
ionic garnet
I so agree @cinder wind
inner spade
Q: Will the touch controllers on the TFT Wings be updated to the new chip at some point?
split gazelle
The breathing bear reminds me of the simulation mannequins that medical students learn on
grand tusk
Q Add radio button UI to adafruit.io?
limpid patrol
Is there a quick reference to which adafruit products are not in stock?
green bison
Is there a quick reference to which adafruit products are not in stock?
I think you can search for an empty string and toggle "not in stock"? I don't super recall though
grand tusk
Gotcha
echo canopy
Question for the show @open girder
Still plans for an ItsyBitsy esp32 ? Looking for a smaller wifi board
open girder
10% discount code, code is: resistivetsc
desert orbit
No questions, just a shoutout to the brothers Ruiz for their Pi HQ Camera case, finally got around to building mine this week and its beautiful. ๐
open girder
10% discount code, code is: resistivetsc
ionic garnet
ETA, ETA, ETA... sing it now
cinder wind
All the QT Py boards are the best
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. ๐
robust horizon
thank you ! see everybody around!
ionic garnet
Good night everyone. Thanks @open girder
split gazelle
Thanks for a great evening of shows!
grand tusk
Thank you
inner spade
Thank you!
urban gale
Thanks All! G'night
cinder wind
Revisions powered by pad thai
manic shard
Thamk you!
ionic garnet
see you all soon
upbeat coral
Thanks for taking time for us.
grand tusk
Bartlebeats meltdown
lavish patrol
Hello all. ๐
inner spade
Hello!
sterile forge
Hello from down in southern florida
haughty quiver
We are experiencing technical difficulties (mostly Lars) Please standby.
lavish patrol
Lars. Always Lars. ๐
sterile forge
What a troublemaker Lars is.
lavish patrol
Lol
grand tusk
Cool, I can go get some popcorn.
lavish patrol
Mmmm. Popcorn.
grand tusk
lol
viral sail
Good afternoon.
cinder wind
Understandable, JP said LCARS and Lars thought he was going to be the star
lavish patrol
Bleeps and Bloops!
grand tusk
Stuttering a bit, maybe it's just me.
cinder wind
I also experienced that
opaque hearth
A regurgitated product pick ๐
grand tusk
Not for human consumption.
inner spade
YouTube experiencing some minor stuttering (not critical)
lavish patrol
YouTube experiencing some minor stuttering (not critical)
Hmm. I thought it was just me. ๐ค
turbid hill
My brain experiencing a slight stutter, nothing to worry about.
need to make a slot machine on the screen
inner spade
Twitch is working flawlessly.
grand tusk
CPP FTW!
cinder wind
It's not widely known that the first polygons were made by Vectoria Polygon in France in the 1700s
cinder wind
I think the Parsec section was okay though
grand tusk
CPP Take 2
turbid hill
nahh we will double our fun
inner spade
Parsec survived on Twitch okay
I hesitate to say that Twitch is working okay now. Donโt want to jinx it.
lavish patrol
Don't mention Lars...
spiral vale
LCARS SCARL STARL
lavish patrol
The parrot escaped...
lyric marlin
Watching on You Tube, take 2 was perfect, no buffering.
cinder wind
wait, CircuitPython what?
grand tusk
Should only need six points to define the hexagon, I think you duplicated the first point.
inner spade
Displayio shapes have outlines already but Vectorio shapes are more efficient.
cinder wind
Star Trek was doing iPads before it was cool
lavish patrol
Know the technology well. ๐
lavish patrol
Lol
inner spade
Used an LCARS interface for my IoT workshop corrosion monitor.
lavish patrol
Used an LCARS interface for my IoT workshop corrosion monitor.
Cool.
grand tusk
Steamy. I've got 31% relative humidity in the lab.
inner spade
Borrowed from a Dave Astelsโ design.
cinder wind
wow they really had bright lights behind those LCARS panels
viral sail
Add a resistive touch panel to that and you could use it to control some stuff.
devout bloom
so cool
inner spade
Higher density matrix panel?
cinder wind
I say use RGBW addressable strips. I think the RGB output isn't as good for those filters
grand tusk
Maybe this is one of those episodes where the systems are malfunctioning.
devout bloom
higher desity but smaller lights so same output?
lavish patrol
COB LEDs?
inner spade
What a exciting opportunity to awaken something so iconic and cool.
grand tusk
We need more power!
inner spade
Iโm a doctor, not an electrical engineer.
lavish patrol
Lol
cinder wind
Star Tron: The Next Troneration
lavish patrol
Great workshop again, @haughty quiver ๐
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver . Have a good weekend.
grand tusk
Thanks, JP!
devout bloom
woo
grand tusk
GAME OVER
inner spade
Thanks!
haughty quiver
thanks all!
smoky island
I was a bit late to the party today, but enjoyed the portion I caught. Thanks for another great workshop show JP.
smoky island
Deep Dive show notes doc file is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b0xZXCBZXadNqcH9l1RC-l5jTmSyFe1LaYsaMZylzvc/edit?usp=sharing Much appreciated if anyone wants to help out with taking timestamps.
split gazelle
happy friday folks!
smoky island
We will be live in just a few moments on YT: https://youtu.be/qZ3bHHH-ZLI Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit and other streaming platforms.
inner spade
Hello!
brazen grove
hoi zame
nova totem
Hello and yay for Friday!
grand tusk
Hey everyone!
nova totem
Anyone want a cupcake? I still have a few from Show and Tell (they may be slightly wet)
clear matrix
Anyone want a cupcake? I still have a few from Show and Tell (they may be slight...
Depends on the kind, whether I'm willing to deal with a wet cupcake.
brazen grove
my cupcake over ethernet client is broken
inner spade
@brazen grove Thanks for the โsort displayio groups by y-position to simulate graphic object perspectiveโ suggestion the other day. Added one line of code and it worked.
nova totem
Depends on the kind, whether I'm willing to deal with a wet cupcake.
They were cheap ones from the grocery store, given what my plan was for them so probably not worth it
clear matrix
They were cheap ones from the grocery store, given what my plan was for them so ...
Agreed.... they do not sound worth it.
brazen grove
the worst thing you can do is go somewhere expensive, like Switzerland, and try some really good pastry there, and then never again enjoy your local food
split gazelle
that was a legendary show and tell @nova totem
modern night
o/ Hi all, hope everyone's having a good day
nova totem
I had this cheesecake thing in Vienna that was not heavy like normal cheesecake and never found anything like it since. It was amazing
brazen grove
there are millions of melon kinds, and they taste very different depending on the ripeness too
nova totem
that was a legendary show and tell <@!228322543507865601>
Thanks, sometimes doing a rather pointless project just cause it is fun is worth it
For anyone who I have confused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=864&v=108wm1kgq6U&feature=emb_logo
brazen grove
I wish the show and tell wasn't like 4am for me
inner spade
Itโs difficult to set a birthday melon on fire. They seem to be self-extinguishing.
turbid hill
Whew only missed 16mins
nova totem
Itโs difficult to set a birthday melon on fire. They seem to be self-extinguishi...
Seems like a challenge
split gazelle
you aren't muted, coming in loud and clear
nova totem
ummm I think I saw something similar once and was missing a python library the compiler was calling
brazen grove
you just unpack it and set the PATH to that directory
press "ctrl+r" in the terminal and type "PATH", see if you had that command in history
turbid hill
you try to find those packages as .deb files first before trying tgz or bzip packs
brazen grove
oh, you added it permanently
brazen grove
source and . are the same command, "." is bash-ism
turbid hill
I am old school so I learned . .bashrc
turbid hill
lol
brazen grove
when you have time
turbid hill
who actually has formal training in linux, my bacground is solaris/bsd type os's
brazen grove
I theoretically should, but I grope for --help all the time anyways
nova totem
I've done Linux courses through work but most of the time they were super high level. Good if you are a beginner but that is about it
split gazelle
there is a harvardX course on linux that's pretty good
brazen grove
I know enough about bash to never ever use it for anything ;-)
turbid hill
haha Bash is our savior do Kourne shell in Solaris
brazen grove
especially if you have spaces in filenames anywhere
turbid hill
escape those \ spaces
brazen grove
doesn't work when you are looping over them
turbid hill
that is where ' and ` come into effect to wrap what you are doing
brazen grove
you have do do weird -0 or --null or such weird things
turbid hill
pop os is on ubuntu 21.04 at the moment
turbid hill
I have looked at DanH tips for python git hub very handy
selective debug activation
if C code it can be either "\nHello" or "Hello\n"
20.04 is LTS
Probably not, nope on bar nope on volume, choose a differnt desktop for your Ubuntu
I am jaded I use KDE Neon
no KDE Neon is one distro "KDE Neon" it's Ubuntu LTS with all KDE desktop direct from KDE Devs https://neon.kde.org/
brazen grove
-j is the number of jobs to run in parallel
I noticed that circuitpython's make is sometimes broken with parallel jobs
doesn't always recompile all that it should
clear matrix
I noticed that circuitpython's make is sometimes broken with parallel jobs
I ran into this.
main flame
Iโm pretty sure mp_printf is going to want you to use a format string specification, and I think โ โ + {0,1} is going to print a space or whatever the next ascii char after space
turbid hill
yes you can do that with sound
brazen grove
mp_printf(&..., "%d", self->hidden) <-- something like this
brazen grove
the commands that start with # are preprocessor commands
they happen at compile time
this is so that if the vectorio is disabled, you don't even compile that code
brazen grove
no no
modern night
they happen at compile time
Oh I didn't realize it was a compile time flag. I've just used it to define logging levels for print statements, #if debugging... kinds of things
brazen grove
the #if something .... #endif only gets compiled if something is true at compile time
correct
turbid hill
C turns all code into one big honking line then parses it for the compiler
white space in code formatting is for human readability
brazen grove
white space in code formatting is for human readability
allegedly
it can also serve for human confusion
turbid hill
I am rusty at C but I do remember the class's on C compiler design and how the code is handled.
brazen grove
I am rusty at C but I do remember the class's on C compiler design and how the ...
did they teach it in the dark, with a flashlight shining up their face?
modern night
does it need to redraw?
turbid hill
I learned C mid 1980's but there is a contest every year to write the most obfuscated code
brazen grove
I learned C mid 1980's but there is a contest every year to write the most obfus...
one year an empty file won, it was submitted as a quine
turbid hill
I still like the perl one liner that decoded dvd's
brazen grove
I like the perl regular expression that matches prime numbers
brazen grove
why are some files in the file tree yellow/green
modified?
brazen grove
did the science go too far?
split gazelle
would you consider doing a learn guide on setting up pycharm for circuitpython?
clear matrix
would you consider doing a learn guide on setting up pycharm for circuitpython?
Beyond what's in the Welcome to CircuitPython guide?
turbid hill
The guide works needs a refresh on some screenshots, I did get it going.
split gazelle
Beyond what's in the Welcome to CircuitPython guide?
ah, i hadn't seen that page. thanks!
clear matrix
ah, i hadn't seen that page. thanks!
You're welcome!
clear matrix
The guide works needs a refresh on some screenshots, I did get it going.
You can leave feedback on guides using the "Feedback? Corrections" link at the bottom left if you find issues with anything.
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D
modern night
What if you don't make a change to the shape, but add another shape entirely?
are size and location are the same there?
I was slow to type it, you changed it ๐
turbid hill
if you keep disconnecting from the circuitpy drive like that you will break the fat file system and get read/write errors until you fix it.
modern night
how do you fix it if that's the case?
turbid hill
fsck.fat /dev/sd? whatever the device is
modern night
Hopefully this is just a pycharm cache issue though
turbid hill
no it's a FAT issue, dos FAT filesystems are notorious for corrupting when brutal dismounting of it
you cannot fix the filesystem if mounted
brazen grove
goodnight
turbid hill
repl is like a clean format while fsck.fat is a file system fixer
if you backup from a corrupt filesystem you might get a corrupt backup
next time just unmount CIRCUITPY, dmesg and find what the device is and do a fsck.fat /dev/sda1 for example and you will get the option to fix the filesystem
if the FAT tables are broken the files writing will fail
if you want to prevent a corrupt file system dismount CIRCUITPY every time you do a firmware push so you are not doing a dirty unmount
grand tusk
Time flies when you're on a dive.
modern night
I gotta head it. It's a gorgeous day here, I'm going to enjoy the sun! Hope everyone has a lovely weekend!
turbid hill
or use file manager to safely unmount the CIRCUITPY dir.
inner spade
Looking forward to hidden and palette index arguments for vectorio objects. Already have two projects queued for the change โ replacing a bunch of displayio objects. Thanks for the stream!
Will try the latest.
split gazelle
great stream @smoky island !
nova totem
Have a great weekend
turbid hill
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inner spade
โWe all live in a purple submarine. A purple submarine.โ๐ต
turbid hill
bye
grand tusk
Thanks1
smoky island
Thanks all. Hope everyone has a great night and weekend ๐
inner spade
Hello!
proper prawn
why I don't see here in discord/adafruit/live-broadcast-chat the posts that I see right now in the stream of @smoky island in the discord live-broadcast-chatwindow?
smoky island
Some of the messages came after my stream ended so those ones wouldn't be included in the stream video if that is what you mean?
proper prawn
@smoky island. No, that is probably not what I mean. I see , right now, posts from Bergdahl (with time label of 10.32am that I don't see here in discord. Now it is here 3.58pm and with you 10.58am (5 hours difference)
smoky island
Ah, I am not sure. discord messages can be deleted by the person that made them, perhaps some were removed after appearing in the stream.
dim wigeon
Happy local time interval, everyone!
smoky island
Starting up the stream in just a moment picking up on the TabLayout idea from last week. Hang out here in the chat and follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGkx95asE2M
proper prawn
I don't know what is happening Tim. The stream shows an announcement page. I hear you typing. I don't see you anymore.
clever summit
Hey Foamy. Finally managed to catch a stream again. ๐
proper prawn
OK, waiting...
dim wigeon
I can see and hear you fine now, Tim.
proper prawn
me too
Tim what State you live in?
Recently I received also an ordered PyPortal titano from Pimoroni Ltd UK
Tnx for telling me the state name. --- My son lives close to Louisville, KY. --- In some image from Adafruit I saw that they had a kinda acrylic stand for the PyPortal. Per accident I ordered from Pimoroni another (smaller) PyPortal (less nice - I think)
Yes, the acrylic I saw was only connected on the back. The one I received has also a frame on front
I think the one I meant is the one on the image on top of that list you showed
inner spade
Just delete the DS_store file. Ugly remnant of using the iMac operating system.
proper prawn
I recently bought various M5Stack models. A local electronics shop has a lot of their stuff. They are build around ESP32 microcontollers. I am 'exercising' now with them using MicroPython. Unfortunately the documentation of M5Stack is fragmented (my experience). Also did not find a good read-the-docs like documentation of the MicroPython modules that are available for these devices.
proper prawn
Excuse-me for sharing off-topic info
dim wigeon
I remember Neko on the Mac back when I was in high school!
upper sandal
I remember that from my youth
dim wigeon
Speaking of Mac throwbacks, itโd be fun if there was a text-to-speech library for CircuitPython so we could re-implement the Talking Moose. ๐
proper prawn
Thank you.
upper sandal
I don't know how big a text-to-speech library was in the days
hard drives were small and big at the same time, I do remember the huge 20MB hard drive...
dim wigeon
@upper sandal Talking Moose ran on a Mac Plus, I think, so it canโt have been that bigโฆ
proper prawn
Tim, can you share a link of the scripts you're showing right now?
smoky island
proper prawn
OK, yes the cats thing
upper sandal
yeah if it fits in a floppy
proper prawn
the page layout that too pse
dim wigeon
(For those unfamiliar with the Talking Moose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_Moose)
clever summit
Seems you forgot to disable the Youtube chat again @smoky island
Ah, it is now.
I was probably too fast. ๐
Nah, you are just lucky. The filtering is the same.
dim wigeon
I need to run - have a great day, everyone!
upper sandal
yeah -a/--auto
proper prawn
Tim what IDE are you using ? VSCode ? or is it PyCharm (cuz I see that name left-down)
OK PyCharm. I 'smelled' once on it but for a reason I don't remember I didn't continue. But it looks great in your stream.
I use VSCode now and than. --- What I am (also) looking for is to find back certain solutions/functions I created for certain HW. A kinda database with lookup tables. Quite often I am thinking "I already wrote a function for this... but where is it?"
If I was to buy a license (for personal use) of PyCharm do I need more tools from JetBrains beside PyCharm or is it sufficient to buy just PyCharm?
Ok, Thank you. For Personal Use they charge just $ 89/yr
clever summit
I have the bundle. Good price for what you get.
proper prawn
I just discovered that they give free licenses for "open source projects" under certain requirements
@clever summit what "bundle"?
clever summit
A license for all their IDE's.
proper prawn
Oh yes, that would be about $ 250/yr for an individual dev
clever summit
They have an IDE for databases as well.
proper prawn
@clever summit When installing the bundle, is it possible to install it on another drive than C: ? (I expect so --- and hope it will)
Tnx
Btw I just changed the 'pilot avatar' to a more personal image
I the mean time I'm listening to what you're saying
clever summit
There are 2 ways to install, either you use the Jetbrains Toolbox and it will do it for you, on C:.
proper prawn
Tim instead of 'for i' not using 'for _' ?
clever summit
Or you use the standard installer where I think you can decice where to install it.
proper prawn
@clever summit OK tnx
proper prawn
I don't remember. I learned it from a Python e-book/course
inner spade
For me, โfor iโฆโ was a memory-saving approach back in the days of timeshare computing in Basic. I recall it represented โindexโ back then.
proper prawn
Yes, I also think the reason was memory-saving
inner spade
Circa 1975-ish
proper prawn
Yes, but we're a bit back in the times as when an Apple ][ had only 64k of RAM. Now a lot of microcontrollers also not have too much of memory. Beside the more recent once with 16MB
upper sandal
I like to use a notation like that to avoid collisions, and make loop variables carry their context if you will
for name_num, name in enumerate(names):
@upper sandal tnx
modern night
Morning all! Hope your weekend is going well
proper prawn
Good afternoon (here it's almost 6pm)
modern night
I hope the morning went well then, and the afternoon into evening is great!
proper prawn
@modern night tnx, doing OK
inner spade
The center of three tabs has a divisor of six
The width of a tab is one-third less spacing margins
modern night
(page_index)*1/3 + 1/6
assuming zero indexed for page_index
Your math works, and is more explicit than mine, that's a good solution
upper sandal
I only have the pyportal pynt ๐
inner spade
This pushed the touchscreen resolution limit for the Titano. Spacing between the buttons made it work for fingers.
upper sandal
yeah that's just how brains work, I don't get to decide if I commit something to memory or not, some I remember, some not
modern night
I've got to run, thanks for the wonderful stream, and have a great weekend everyone!
upper sandal
current_tab ? active_tab ?
manic river
thanks very much for an interesting stream ๐
inner spade
Thanks! Great stream today.
manic river
yes, thanks for merging ๐
proper prawn
Thank you Tim for a very interesting stream. Have a nice weekend
smoky island
Thanks all. Hope everyone has a nice weekend as well! ๐
open girder
The Desk of Ladyada - Lets design a Pico to Arduino Shield converter https://youtu.be/WSRVttVH4CU
viral sail
Good evening.
dim wigeon
Hi everyone!
ionic garnet
hi
upper sandal