#live-broadcast-chat
rocky reef
viral sail
Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.
shell mason
robust horizon
ET: Denotes US Eastern Time (which ever of daylight or standard time is in effect)
EST: Specifically denotes US Eastern Standard Time
EDT: Specifically denotes US Eastern Daylight Time
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
shell mason
catched the late
robust horizon
👋
unreal bay
Cheers all
hard hollow
thanks folks! cya tonight
urban gale
thanks, all!
shell mason
the daylight saving time as was walking on ice
wise iris
thanks guys!
short chasm
Hey everyone!
turbid hill
yo
open surge
hey all
nova totem
Good evening everyone
short chasm
going to try and share an update to my telephone ringer tonight 🙂
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
haughty quiver
tulip canyon
Hello everyone.!
turbid hill
waiting for my apple floppy drives to arrive somewhere between Toronto and Calgary at the moment
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
robust horizon
wahoo
short chasm
fly a drone through the new facility!
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D
tulip canyon
🤖
smoky island
Exciting news! I've enjoyed my Lulzbot, great to hear about a digikey partnership!
sage aspen
Hello all 👋
eager matrix
This is good to hear. I'm just weeks away from buying a 3D printer.
robust horizon
oh noooo broken printers??
turbid hill
@robust horizon check out applesauce way of using a sync sensor on the floppy drive
go go retro
cinder wind
multicast DNS / Bonjour is so very useful on home networks
robust horizon
@turbid hill yes! I went with the reflective sensor in part because my magnets got lost in the mail 🤣 it's working really nicely
slow spire
Hi, all!
nova totem
I miss that floppy drive sound
wind spoke
Is it that time of the year where US had their daylight saving thing and EU not yet? And I could have come and present something without too much sleep deprivation? Well I missed it! 😭
tulip canyon
floppy has died of dysentery
sage aspen
Is it that time of the year where US had their daylight saving thing and EU not ...
Probably. We just had Daylight saving on Sunday.
slow spire
@sage aspen Ping me if you ever have a HyperCard issue. I used to do professional dev (!) in HC. And do you have a link to your SCSI to SD adapter?
rapid hornet
Yup, part of our government opted to stop the switch next year
nova totem
I hope Canada follows suit like we did last time the US changed their DST rules
turbid hill
@robust horizon Is that not a PC floppy drive, how did you make it talk apple format, or are you writing raw flux patterns to the floppy
sage aspen
<@!478616919721771019> Ping me if you ever have a HyperCard issue. I used to do ...
Ok, though I'm a noob at it. You can just google for SCSI2SD and find a bunch of stuff. I just grabbed it off eBay.
eager matrix
Yup, part of our government opted to stop the switch next year
It seems they can agree on 2 things. Zelensky is great and daylight savings time isn't.
slow spire
Very cool Liz
nova totem
Congrats again @split gazelle such a gain for everyone
cinder wind
congrats @split gazelle !
tulip canyon
Yay Liz!
wind spoke
Yup, part of our government opted to stop the switch next year
EU voted something to end the change but we failed to decide if we wanted to stick with summer time or winter time... So it seems we continue switching!
sage aspen
EU voted something to end the change but we failed to decide if we wanted to sti...
We went with summer
inner spade
Very visual, Liz. Congrats on joining the Adafruit team!
split gazelle
Congrats again <@!347203168121126912> such a gain for everyone
thank you!! 😺
cinder wind
woohoo!
slow spire
Ok, though I'm a noob at it. You can just google for SCSI2SD and find a bunch of...
Happy to help; no question too noob for me!
split gazelle
congrats <@!347203168121126912> !
thank you!
split gazelle
Very visual, Liz. Congrats on joining the Adafruit team!
thank you very much!
inner spade
A great podcast!
open surge
A great podcast!
thanks!
split gazelle
indeed, fantastic podcast
open surge
@split gazelle I sat there the whole time clicking on the echo cancellation. 🙂
slow spire
@sage aspen , back in the day, I wrote LiveCard, which enabled making HyperCard stacks accessible on the web. It shipped with HyperCard late in its life.
https://tidbits.com/1996/07/29/livecard-hits-the-web/
ionic garnet
Hi people
sage aspen
<@!478616919721771019> , back in the day, I wrote LiveCard, which enabled making...
That's awesome.
ionic garnet
I would have been here earlier but Discord decided to download the internet first
split gazelle
@nova totem that looks awesome!
short chasm
ionic garnet
That is a cool gadget @nova totem
smoky island
@nova totem nice job on this! the case turned out great. Love these types of helpful niche gadgets.
slow spire
@sage aspen There are a ton of XCMDs (HyperCard extensions) by Apple and third parties, to reach beyond the Mac. It might be interesting to use a serial XCMD as a bridge between HyperCard and MCUs running CircuitPython or Arduino.
robust horizon
I'm so glad to hear others saying that the final wiring of a project is a hard phase for them too. it feels like nightmare to me
sage aspen
<@!478616919721771019> There are a ton of XCMDs (HyperCard extensions) by Apple ...
Sounds intriguing.
nova totem
ionic garnet
Thanks @haughty quiver
tulip canyon
Great projects everyone, thanks for sharing all
viral sail
Thanks everyone.
slow spire
@robust horizon What's the tough part you're working through now?
nova totem
<@!228322543507865601> that looks awesome!
Thanks it turned out better then I hoped (and didn't get squished when the button was pressed)
smoky island
Thanks JP. Great show and thanks for showing neat projects everyone! 🎉
slow spire
Thanks, @haughty quiver !
split gazelle
great job hosting @haughty quiver && fantastic projects everyone!
robust horizon
@slow spire right this second, it's coming together 🙂 I re-wired my apple disk drive rotation sensor today with a proper inline connector
haughty quiver
Such great stuff everyone, thank you for coming on
sage aspen
Thanks @haughty quiver
nova totem
<@!228322543507865601> nice job on this! the case turned out great. Love these t...
Thanks I actually want to tweak the case a bit or maybe find someone with smaller hands to help in assembling it next time!
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 3/16/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/Mglfa2eYjoI
robust horizon
turbid hill
@robust horizon I believe in the cable from the floppy are some extra NC wires that could be used to hold the sensor signals
haughty quiver
oh noooo broken printers??
i suspect Ruiz Bros. don't break printers so much as wear them down to a little nub
turbid hill
Should bake a cake that looks like that artwork
ionic garnet
Bazinga
viral sail
"In order to get a Raspberry Pi you must first create the Universe." -- Carl Sagan
turbid hill
lol
trim spruce
Hey
slow spire
My newest 3D printer folds for travel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPekyAa3XaY
haughty quiver
that's wild
trim spruce
Cool
slow spire
Basically, 4 screws then bed leveling and you're printing.
dim knot
haughty quiver
🐟
slow spire
(Oh, and maybe futzing with Cura a bit.)
robust horizon
@open girder took stock and I have 4 unopened rolls of leaded solder. should I still use it up, or should i dispose of it (safely) and stick with the newer lead free stuff?
oooh I helped add the code to circuitpython so that you could set rotation anytime
turbid hill
@robust horizon the solder is not that unsafe to use, I would not waste it but use it up.
haughty quiver
lol Foamy headed Scott is great
slow spire
I only use lead-free these days, but maybe @robust horizon there's a local maker space that could use it.
cinder wind
somewhat related to JP's Cat Man, I found this page... https://www.sadanduseless.com/nicolas-catge-meme/
dim knot
robust horizon
this adabox is going to be worth the wait y'all
vale ridge
you did a great job documenting the show!
ivory kiln
Winter - Spring AdaBox - it's the Win-ing-est of them all. 😉
smoky island
This giant circuit sculpture is so neat!
slow spire
Pro-tip: While awaiting the new AdaBox, look around; you may have an unopened AdaBox that needs love.
weary geyser
Maybe if it gets delayed enough we can get two at the same time!
turbid hill
lol
cinder wind
I love Kelly Heaton's work. No 555 timers! Just transistor oscillators emulating organic stimulus-response cycles (in her older bird projects at least)
turbid hill
there is a 555 sculpture
cinder wind
there is a 555 sculpture
oh cool! I had not seen that
urban gale
I love those
slow spire
There's those robot birbs I've been hearing bout.
vale ridge
the work is so great, I enjoy this love of electronics that's emitted from the sculptures
weary geyser
I just got used to electronics boxes getting delayed. It is a surprise regardless of when it comes. I'll be happy to build it when ever 🙂
ivory kiln
Q: I know u guys plan a head what up coming AdaBox's are going to be but has Adafruit started gathering parts already for the 2022 Summer AdaBox's & 2022 Fall Adabox's?
eager matrix
FreeOTP works as well. I just set it up on my iPhone.
ivory kiln
Genreal question:
does anyone know the handle on here for the guy in Florida that makes the buttons & what not for physically & cognitively challenged individuals? I think his name is Bill?
turbid hill
2FA in this day and age should be everywhere
ionic garnet
it should be required
slow spire
Genreal question:
does anyone know the handle on here for the guy in Florida tha...
@pearl shoal is he
dim knot
ivory kiln
Sweet! Thanks @slow spire
ionic garnet
I don't need another Pi (badly) right now but I like the push to enable 2FA
weary geyser
The thing that I have been impressed by is how fast you guys ship. I think I have an adafruit purchasing problem The box usually comes within a couple of days. Which reminds me...I need to send a complaint about the solid products. If they were less high quality I wouldn't be buying so much. Also JP and his picks! I always have to have my cart ready to guy for that show! lol
viral sail
It looks more joystick than mouse.
ionic garnet
The thing that I have been impressed by is how fast you guys ship. *I think I ha...
Same for me. Typically 2 or 3 days.
cinder wind
Would love to see a docu on the design process for the Toot-a-loop
eager matrix
Oh man, it's hard when I see things people that call "retro" and I remember them from when I was a kid. I once saw a toy I had as a kid in an antique shop (literally, the one I had based on some stickers I put on it).
slow spire
Should be possible to make a TOTP device using CircuitPython, maybe using: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_hashlib
viral sail
Panasonic was big in the home audio market through the 90s.
turbid hill
Panasonic - Floppy Drives
ionic garnet
Macs didn't come out until 1984. Panasonic still makes killer audio systems. Acura's premium sound is made by Panasonic
robust horizon
Now up to 7.2.3 🙂 because we had a problem with the first bug fix
weary geyser
I remember working on the Mac SE and LE when I was in high school. I used to have to ride public transport to school and I was always coming home after dark because I would be messing around with the 9600 baud modem the school had until they would shuffle me out the door. I only had a 2400 baud modem at home
That would have been maybe 92...
turbid hill
you blink and cp updates to another version
eager matrix
How does one sign up for your newsletter.
dim knot
weary geyser
I remember taking them apart to fix them and seeing the engineers signatures in the injection molded case. I always thought that was pretty cool.
viral sail
Wow. How high is that building going to be?
weary geyser
Oh man...the sun is gone
urban gale
Well they do own the Death Star
eager matrix
I have a friend who has a subdermal RFID which he uses to unlock his phone.
slow spire
It's FireWalker NextGen!
weary geyser
I have a friend who has a subdermal RFID which he uses to unlock his phone.
I have mixed feelings about that concept. My inner nerd loves it and my inner paranoid person is conflicted. lol
slow spire
Yeah, cause RFID protocols will never be obsolete /s
open girder
10% discount code, code is: BFFADDON http://www.adafruit.com
urban gale
I have mixed feelings about that concept. My inner nerd loves it and my inner pa...
I think bill Joy did something similar in the 90s. He could get into his office building w/ some subdermal thing
weary geyser
Yeah, cause RFID protocols will never be obsolete /s
Lol! Right! Also my cats have those chips, so I guess I cannot be
weary geyser
I think bill Joy did something similar in the 90s. He could get into his office ...
Too many movies of people getting bits cut off for that reason. 😆
Am I the only one who went straight to Ratatouille with the name of the company?
slow spire
I have 2 Pfizers and a Moderna, so I can unlock anything. 😄
turbid hill
lol
weary geyser
I have 2 Pfizers and a Moderna, so I can unlock anything. 😄
🤔 I wonder if my cats can unlock buildings 🐱
slow spire
@weary geyser That's a great movie scene in the waiting.
weary geyser
There is a cat food bowl that can be set to an RFID chip...
slow spire
Security guard stoops to pet cute cat, which then wanders down to unlock secret lab.
viral sail
This could be useful for telescope pointing.
robust horizon
sqrt(Hz) I still can't wrap my head around
slow spire
round(Hz) < sqrt(Hz) /jk
robust horizon
is anyone thinking "canabalt" from the graphics in that video?
dim knot
Adafruit Ultimate GPS with USB - 66 channel w/10 Hz updates https://www.adafruit.com/product/4279
Adafruit ESP32-S2 Feather with BME280 Sensor - STEMMA QT - 4MB Flash + 2 MB PSRAM https://www.adafruit.com/product/5303
ivory kiln
Has anyone heard if there is going to be a maker faire in New York this year?
slow spire
floor(Hz) if you drop your accelerometer.
slow spire
Has anyone heard if there is going to be a maker faire in New York this year?
cc: @open girder Q:
dim knot
Round Panel Mount Stereo Audio Extension Cable - 1/8" / 3.5mm https://www.adafruit.com/product/5418
Adafruit LiIon or LiPoly Charger BFF Add-On for QT Py https://www.adafruit.com/product/5397
split gazelle
a cardigan
urban gale
shield x wing = schwing
grand tusk
LiPo Scoop. QTpy ala mode.
scenic prawn
QT Py and Bff are wholesome words together, I think it works thematically.
glad granite
👍 Great new products!
robust horizon
ouch sorry about the audio level there!
nova totem
oh I LOVED that game
robust horizon
@nova totem I'm so unfamiliar with the arrow keys by now I could barely move the character. I'm sure I could get my mojo back
scenic prawn
As far as processing power goes, how does it compare to the rp2040? Like would this work as an alternative to the airlift & rp2040 feather combo?
echo canopy
Question for the show @open girder 
What’s the possibility of a dual MCU board ? Such as an ESP32 or RP2030 with two chips ? For the purpose of passing off tasks and leaving the main MCU for speed in code execution
Uses could be Machine learning, DVI/HDMI out… camera projects Etc
nova totem
<@!228322543507865601> I'm so unfamiliar with the arrow keys by now I could bare...
It was great that there were fun but educational games
hot frigate
@open girder noitseuQ: This is more of a PSA... BOOTLEG chips. My professional life has had to deal with bootleg chips (specifically encoder chips). Even though it might suddenly be available, does not mean it is the real thing.
robust horizon
eager matrix
Are you folks going to carry the Blues Wireless Swan board and their cellular data modem?
It a feather and supports CP?
hot frigate
How about $120 for a $7 chip??? Wowsers! Not my BOOTLEG issue, but another issue we have had to address.
eager matrix
The Swan already supports CP.
slow spire
How about $120 for a $7 chip??? Wowsers! Not my BOOTLEG issue, but *another* i...
OMG what chip?
thin vessel
I got a 3d printer, so "hey, should set up octoprint." Guess what, can't get raspberry pi for under $120 anymore, and the 2b I have isn't sufficient. I'm guessing it's also going to be 18 months out on being able to actually get
scenic prawn
I have one more question actually, what's your recommendation for storing stemma sensors? Also thanks!
slow spire
@open girder BTW, I saw that the NAU7802 (at least through-hole) is available in quantity again.
hot frigate
OMG what chip?
I am not sure about that chip, but it was something the customer was trying to source as well as us. We are all in this together, and the times are tough!!!
echo canopy
Question are you planning on getting more Turing Complete Labs 10 Digit Monochrome LCD Display? Ansd how do you decide if the test run was for successful for a third-party board ?
hot frigate
I got a 3d printer, so "hey, should set up octoprint." Guess what, can't get ras...
It's possible to use your own computer as a host, I think, if that helps you bridge the time between now and getting one.
thin vessel
I did sign up for emails, doesn't look like I got one today
ivory kiln
Q: don't know if u missed this:
I know u guys plan a head what up coming AdaBox's are you able / are you gathering parts already for the 2022 Summer AdaBox's & 2022 Fall Adabox's?
cinder wind
And hey now we can pull out those older Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 boards that we all have in a drawer. Just pulled one out to use as a little Linux test box. Works great
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌕
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us
slow spire
Thanks, y'all!
echo canopy
Great show
nova totem
Great shows. I needed a distraction tonight. Thanks
midnight plinth
👍 Great show, thanks
ivory kiln
thank u thank u thank u great show!
robust horizon
thanks and goodnight!
slow spire
I am not sure about that chip, but it was something the customer was trying to s...
I heard on a podcast that there are companies that buy up old IC IP, and sell old/new stock to captive markets in govt and slow-moving enterprise customers. I think it was this episode of AMP Hour:
https://overcast.fm/+Lug7KcM6E
robust horizon
also great tune
turbid hill
Just came in, mint condition
thin vessel
https://rpilocator.com
Only Pis available in the world at the moment according to that are in switzerland. Was looking at if a cheap tablet I have could be used with octo4a, likely underpowered, looks like the OTG adapter I got isn't going to work to charge the tablet, no way to tell if one or any will work without testing each one.
sudden gate
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
inner spade
Hello workshop visitors and Lars!
lavish patrol
Greetings, good people.
lavish patrol
@spiral vale Que?
haughty quiver
OK if you say so!
spiral vale
Steam Deck Cuphead Controller
lavish patrol
Aha. A cupholder for Lars...
haughty quiver
I just throw words at this and see what happens
spiral vale
none of those words make sense together
haughty quiver
lol
lavish patrol
grand tusk
Seems reasonable, pumpkin transfer case.
haughty quiver
may i momma dog face to the banana patch? - Steve Martin
lavish patrol
That reminds me of Mumbles, AKA Ed Bassmaster...
ionic garnet
howdy all
spiral vale
That's good bass
grand tusk
lavish patrol
https://giphy.com/gifs/fish-bass-kTZBUjdRlZB3G
Lol
shell mason
Lars effect
viral sail
Good afternoon.
grand tusk
🍀
spiral vale
it aint easy being green
lavish patrol
To be sure, to be sure. 😄
ionic garnet
I'm wearing green
lavish patrol
St. Lars Day. 😶
grand tusk
Lars is the timekeeper now?
lavish patrol
8:00pm GMT.
inner spade
Confirmed: Twitch is up and twitching
shell mason
or St Lars the Timelord
ionic garnet
it's ok. u can say it
smoky island
I'm late to the party today, but loving the string of displayio parsecs!
mellow thunder
cinder wind
Q2 maybe for me. can't wait
smoky island
Nice! great idea for Cuphead cuptrollers.
lavish patrol
Lol
cinder wind
sounds like he needs to make a tinfoil hat and hook it up as a controller input
lavish patrol
Hit any cup to continue...
grand tusk
Can you do touch control on ESP32-S2 or -S3?
smoky island
Can you do touch control on ESP32-S2 or -S3?
Both of these devices do have the touchio module listed as built-in. https://circuitpython.org/board/adafruit_qtpy_esp32s3_nopsram/ and https://circuitpython.org/board/adafruit_feather_esp32s2/ I would guess that means they can to captive touch input if that is what you mean. I have not tried it specifically though.
cinder wind
Both of these devices do have the `touchio` module listed as built-in. https://c...
ESP32-S2 definitely does touch. The FunHouse has 3 capsense buttons and a capsense slider. So there's schematics and example code! https://circuitpython.org/board/adafruit_funhouse/
smoky island
Ah good point on the FunHouse. Slipped my mind, that slider thing on there is so neat.
grand tusk
I'd like to have a board with touch pads and space for two feather boards.
Gamepad? I'm still working on a mute button.
smoky island
Oh wow! I haven't looked into the steam deck too much, I had no idea it a relatively normal OS desktop available inside of it like this.
lavish patrol
Lol. Lars - AKA Julius Pontius.
haughty quiver
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays
grand tusk
Thanks, it's been real!
lavish patrol
Thanks, @haughty quiver 🍀
inner spade
Thanks!
grand tusk
☘️ 🍀
smoky island
Yep deep dive tomorrow at 2pm Pacific.
nova totem
All foamyguy all the time
smoky island
Thanks JP great stuff on today's show.
lavish patrol
It's Foamyguy all the way down.
grand tusk
We'll need someone to fill in for JP, since he's gone down the steam deck rabbit hole.
haughty quiver
Elden Ring will surely consume me
nova totem
"You have died": There I solved Elden Ring for you
grand tusk
lol
smoky island
We'll need someone to fill in for JP, since he's gone down the steam deck rabbit...
Hehe true. I am scared to get a steam deck because it can run Factorio, which I definitely do not need the ability to carry around with me.
haughty quiver
It can't possibly kill me more than Bloodborne does
haughty quiver
Hehe true. I am scared to get a steam deck because it can run Factorio, which I ...
is that a Factory sim?
grand tusk
is that a Factory sim?
And so it begins...
haughty quiver
hahaha
smoky island
is that a Factory sim?
Yep, conveyor belts to move goods around and assemblers to combine them into other goods.
It tends to be a little addictive, especially drawing in programmers.
haughty quiver
hahah!
grand tusk
Soon we will have a factorio to feather api?
cinder wind
This is the game I cannot wait for https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902490/Aperture_Desk_Job/
haughty quiver
it's the first thing I downloaded and played!
cinder wind
ahahah
light stump
Sorry I was late to the CP parsec palette party.
smoky island
Does anyone know what timezone YT scheduled streams are in? I've got the Deep Dive stream for tonight scheduled but I'm questioning if I did it at the right time:
On the page where I set it, I don't think timezone was specified, so I assumed local time to me (Central US). But on the page now it shows 4:00pm (which is what I set it to) but states "live in 4 hours" and the stream actually starts in 5 hours not 4. But it is at 4:00 local time to me.
This how ti looks on the part to set the time:
Maybe its rounding down since its a few min past the start of the hour.
smoky island
Phew thank you. It must be the rounding down thing and I just was "unlucky" enough to look at right near the top of the hour when it happens to be rounding the most.
upper sandal
considering video dates are reduced to the precision of "1 week ago"... "1 year ago", it's lucky it even gives you a time 😛
inner spade
“We all live in a purple submarine…”🎵🎶
split gazelle
good afternoon folks
open surge
hey everybody
modern night
Hi all! I'll just be lurking while working today, but hope everyone's friday is going well!
nova totem
Hi everyone
eager matrix
Hi Tim.
split gazelle
sounds good!
nova totem
@smoky island Just in case you didn't know I could hear your keyboard so your mic is probably live even with the your title screen up (well now you are live anyways)
fresh flame
brazen quail
Hola from 'rado ! :-D 🍠 #LTF
smoky island
grand tusk
Heelo.
dim knot
Hi there
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
wind spoke
I made something like that for Scott. With a Clue, but it was not super usefull...
smoky island
inner spade
“Purpose-built” project
brazen quail
Scrap playground
Smart washer.
Time stamper button.
Yes.
Bolt
Smart nipple for bicycle rim.
Threaded spokes.
clear matrix
Timestamper! 🎉 😊
cinder wind
in circup, you can specify a path
grand tusk
What happens when the working stamper gets reset?
clear matrix
What happens when the working stamper gets reset?
The timer resets. But I've had mine run for 15+ hours, so as long as you're not editing the code, etc, it should be ok.
(Sorry if this is duplicate info, I'm into other things and not following the stream.)
grand tusk
Maybe should disable auto-restart.
inner spade
Update the NVM with current time until reset manually
clear matrix
Definitely worth considering. It reloading is a major concern of mine.
grand tusk
Seems like Scott had problems with it.
modern night
if it fetched the datetime and set it to the rtc, you can have a 'time since start' value, and a comparative 'seconds since epoch' value, that way if there's an accidental reset you can still recover the time based on the offest from the datetime
clear matrix
Update the NVM with current time until reset manually
I also thought of this, but doesn't that wear out the NVM pretty quickly? I thought it was write limited or whatever the terminology is.
inner spade
I also thought of this, but doesn't that wear out the NVM pretty quickly? I thou...
… or to an SD card
clear matrix
I like my tiny Feather/Wing sammich as it is 😄
halcyon linden
If your using the MacroPad or by adding an encoder to the two key version you could use the encoder to set a start/current time. Just dial up a time and press start.
simple fractal
Hey all. Just tuned in.
wind spoke
Disable the auto-reset... there is a way.
Yes RTC + save the time you press the button, and then at startup verify if there is a recorded start time.
clear matrix
Then make sure to remember you disabled auto-reset, because I would probably forget and keep wondering why it never resets when I save my code. 🤦🏻♀️
wind spoke
Disable the auto-reset... there is a way.
Don't remember...
cinder wind
supervisor.disable_autoreload() ?
clear matrix
Hmm. Looks simple enough.
cinder wind
I like how we've gotten to the point of not wanting to blow our CircuitPython program's up-time
clear matrix
Looks like it worked! It's not reloading on edit/save now.
Good call @wind spoke and @cinder wind.
eager matrix
you could use ntp and keep an offset between curtime and real-time to keep from drifting.
grand tusk
clock overflow 💥
cinder wind
woohoo! I often turn off autoreload because I save so often, and then use Ctrl-C + Ctrl-D in REPL to restart
modern night
That's such an awesome title card!
cinder wind
so cute!
grand tusk
❤️ Love the new title card!
eager matrix
I noticed that graphic earlier and super like it. shoutout to @simple fractal
cinder wind
wait but who is Tim?
clear matrix
I noticed that graphic earlier and super like it. shoutout to <@!342132923064909...
Different Bruce. Bruce is Adafruit's graphic wizard.
nova totem
Foamyguy is Tim? That doesn't sound right.
eager matrix
Different Bruce. Bruce is Adafruit's graphic wizard.
Ahh. is that Bruce on discord?
clear matrix
Ahh. is that Bruce on discord?
Nope 🙂
grand tusk
I often set the script to exit when I press 'any key'.
from supervisor import runtime
while not runtime.serial_bytes_available:
#do stuff
Program stops when you type into the console.
eager matrix
Is there a way to manage CP libraries on a board in VSCode like circup does?
eager matrix
Thanks Tim. I gotta run. A friend's band is playing down the street and I want to hear some blues and sip a bourbon.
strong acorn
terminalio I think is monospace
inner spade
Scale is throwing off the string width calculation? Rounding error
cinder wind
yeah I think scale messes up those things
eager matrix
I'll add Wio Terminal. I just started looking at it.
inner spade
^Yes. Scale works in the entire bitmap object. Anchor is font pixel-based.
inner spade
Compared memory use and execution time in a few projects; vectorio shapes are measurably more efficient on both counts.
inner spade
What’s the advantage to passing the palette versus a single color value?
grand tusk
Can't see all of line 17.
inner spade
Ah the palette exists, so use it. Thanks.
grand tusk
Thanks
cinder wind
yeah it's weird. you specify only a single-entry palette but there's no way to say which palette color to use and which one is transparent?
yes that change would be cool
here's a little ball bouncer using your vectorio example: https://gist.github.com/todbot/3351c47566afe8e107d3d3e64d972263
pretty nice and clean!
yep
grand tusk
slick!
modern night
if you set a timer on the desktop, you can use obs to add a source in a small box
grand tusk
Now the square is pink.
inner spade
Palette use is confusing. Sometimes the palette is simply a list of available colors (a theme), sometimes it’s a list of specific graphic sprite element colors. One type is shared, the other is specific to a sprite.
grand tusk
☘️
cinder wind
I am so here for this. Thank you Tim
turbid hill
rechargable for the win
cinder wind
palette[0] = rainbowio.colorwheel( time.monotonic()*20 ) ahaha
brazen grove
I'm late
cinder wind
ooo who's going to be the first to write a SVG to vectorio.polygon converter
brazen grove
wasn't there a deepdivers role?
rapid hornet
there is. we should make foamyguy can ping it
nova totem
The order just has to match the enum up top I think
cinder wind
yeah, spits out circuitpython code, runs on PC
brazen grove
this might be interesting for someone in the future, there is a very cool minimal vector image format that is used for storing icons in the HaikuOS, http://blog.leahhanson.us/post/recursecenter2016/haiku_icons.html
nova totem
I think you can add the -j (cores or threads) to your make command to use more cores to build faster.
But I copied it from someone else so could be off
brazen grove
in haiku they store the icons in the file descriptor in the filesystem, so it has to be small
cinder wind
alias make='make -j4' but that's a dangerous hack
grand tusk
invisible box is invisible
brazen grove
crouching vector hidden box
balmy tinsel
palette_onedex?
cinder wind
maybe you just pass in a palette, and if index 0 is transparent, great, otherwise, the block is color0 colored, with colorN being the shape color?
ahhh
inner spade
Still, a vectorio shape can only show a single color. Having a palette is confusing.
If a vectorio shape had an outline as well as a fill, then palette makes sense (to me).
left pier
that is very cute
grand tusk
cat party!
left pier
For some people 1 cat is enough... for others... well >1 than one is their plan.
cinder wind
MultiNeko!
brazen grove
btw, you can sort the group by the y coordinate of the sprite, to have them cover each other properly
this is why I made group use a list internally, so I can sort it easily
if it's midnight, then 16 hours from now will be 16:00 :-)
nova totem
Ya F1 qualifier tomorrow, race sunday
cinder wind
mods are away, post circuitpython cats
inner spade
🎉
rapid hornet
it can happen if you move branches without updating submodules
fetche submodules should work for the branch you are on
what does git status show?
untracked could be if you are starting from an old branch
the st_driver stuff is a pain
it changed from one submodule to many
git status is most of my experience
left pier
Thanks @smoky island !
cinder wind
thanks @smoky island, a very useful improvement!
modern night
Thanks for the great stream! Have a good evening!
inner spade
Thanks @smoky island !
smoky island
Thanks everyone, Have a great night and weekend!
nova totem
Have a great weekend
rapid hornet
thanks @smoky island !
wind spoke
bye
inner spade
“We deep dive in a purple submarine, a purple submarine…”
rapid hornet
@smoky island for the scrub bar to be split by timecodes you need a 0:00 entry
smoky island
<@!382939733107408897> for the scrub bar to be split by timecodes you need a 0:0...
Nice, Thank you. I added that one and now it's got the sections split out
simple fractal
Different Bruce. Bruce is Adafruit's graphic wizard.
well i was eating lunch as I heard the shoutout to me, although I'm not the Bruce you are looking for.
light stump
Hey @smoky island, not sure what you'll be talking about on your stream today, but if you're covering VectorIO, I remembered a function that I worked with @toxic basin for some of the widgets. Here's a function to create a line (angled_rectangle) with a given width. You give it two endpoints and the line stroke and it makes a polygon to make a line. I think this function was used in a widget but in a brief search I didn't find where it was. https://gist.github.com/kmatch98/32df3bece4be2ce7c9ed983049b10617
smoky island
Hey <@!382939733107408897>, not sure what you'll be talking about on your stream...
Oh, nice. Thank you. I am going to work on vectorio some more.
Maybe we should have a python layer library with vecotrio "helpers".
It would be interesting to make a wrapper around vectorio.Polygon that uses the points you give it for a standard polygon, but also passes them in pairs to create these lines. So you end up with an outlined polygon with fill and border line. If I am imaging how it would work correctly at least.
light stump
Now I remember, it was for an arrow pointer. I am unsure if it finally made it into a widget.
For the Cartesian, I’ve initiated a multiline segment structure. Unfortunately I’ve gotten distracted and haven’t wrapped this up.
Maybe I should wrap up just the multiline segment helper first.
light stump
Agreed that a vectorio helper library would be cool.
smoky island
Going live now, continuing on with the vectorio work from last night. Hang out here in the chat, and follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywFUaeGNQY or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
eager matrix
Good morning Tim.
inner spade
Hello.
inner spade
The default max value is typically 65535. If unsigned, then uint16 makes sense. int32 has a max value of 65535 as well, but allows negative values, unlike uint__.
Saves memory and reduces execution time to use smaller word sizes.
inner spade
Super! This will be very useful.
There are some outline algorithm approaches in displayio shapes code, but some, particularly circle, have scaling errors when the outline width is greater than 3 or 4 pixels.
… but it’s desirable to have a circle outline with a transparent fill.
Then there’s the need for a graphic arc, too. The list goes on. 😏
No palette in displayio shapes, right?
None color is transparent in shapes most of the time
inner spade
Is the outline inside or outside the rectangle?
In a perfect world, the outline should ride along the rectangle edge with half the stroke above the edge and half below.
Excellent
Thanks @smoky island !
light stump
Thanks for stream @smoky island, just caught the end of the show. I like the idea of a “continuous” line with giving it multiple points and it connects them all and doesn’t leave the corner gaps. At first thought to be sure there are no corner gaps (like you found with the outline rectangle) I would approach it like a creating a long polygon. I’d have to think (or search for code examples) on how to find the new corner points to draw a long segmented polygon. But agree this would be a useful displayio/vectorio helper function.
light stump
Thanks for stream <@382939733107408897>, just caught the end of the show. I like...
Looks like this is a whole class of algorithms and problems in and of itself. Looks like main issue is how to render a really sharp corner, since the intersection could extend waaay far away. Maybe there’s a simplification we can use. Some reading material on “offset polygons” https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1109536/an-algorithm-for-inflating-deflating-offsetting-buffering-polygons
smoky island
@light stump I started the vectorio helpers library here: https://github.com/circuitpython/VectorIO_Helpers So far the only code is the outlined rectangle that I made during stream, and a Line that I refactored the angled rectangle into.
Interesting stuff on the corners. It's always fascinating to run into stuff that seems somewhat simple on the surface but is actually has a whole field of study existing to solve. I wonder if there is any existing python code that implements these algorithms.
I think I'm going to refactor these helpers a little more to try to have a very similar API to display_shapes library. Main change being accepting color values directly instead of a palette and indexes.
light stump
Makes sense. Is there also a consensus that None==transparent?
smoky island
I think so
green bison
Yay! Welcome back 🙂
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - S3 Sunday and Some Samples https://youtu.be/eFA2jt4mTl4
ionic garnet
howdy all
hasty frigate
Without the Psram, is the S3 faster or better than the current S2 feathers?
ionic garnet
I think the main advantage may be risc V
hasty frigate
Thats a patent/licensing benefit for makers?
ionic garnet
i'll let @open girder answer Squirrel
from my point of view it's an architecture likely to be in our futures
and therefore worth exploring
common toolsets and all that
but it is primarily the licensing that better encourages open source projects
hasty frigate
but it is primarily the licensing that better encourages open source projects
Thnx
ionic garnet
oh right.
drifting wyvern
C3 is like the new 8266, doesn't really compete with the s2, s3, etc
S3 also has Bluetooth LE which the s2 didn't have
ionic garnet
I'm just happy they can deliver components at ESP
drifting wyvern
Yeah for sure
ionic garnet
with networking and BLE or BF
drifting wyvern
Probably even more confusing, I think there are some i2s dacs that use i2c to configure them (but not set the output)
I'm pretty sure I used a wm one back in the day.
ionic garnet
if you're not making mistakes, you're not taking enough risk. Being creative and creating products requires risk tolerance
i love the qt py form factor
viral sail
Thanks and good night. 🌖
drifting wyvern
Yeah it's pretty slick, I need to get some of these new ones
Have a good week all!
ionic garnet
bye bye
sudden slate
I'M ~~mostly~~ ALIVE
Nice!!!! Welcome back!!
ionic garnet
I'M ~~mostly~~ ALIVE
Hey man, was wondering where you've been
haughty quiver
hi!
drowsy inlet
hello all
ionic garnet
Hello
shell mason
its Park John Park
viral sail
Good afternoon.
cinder wind
uh oh triangles
grand tusk
Today, on Real Geometry...
inner spade
Right-on!
tacit garnet
In sensing great light with you
ebon stratus
Bummer. I just bought a couple a few days ago. LOL
cinder wind
ahh sines.. much better
grand tusk
Ah, this is the Kattni sensor.
cinder wind
Kattni board! okay I will get it then
shell mason
Lux sensor in Kattni board
cinder wind
lux sensor also very good for doing auto-brightness adjust of LEDs
inner spade
Check the refrigerator light.
dusk socket
I guess we will find out just how bright JP"s idea is this week
rotund marsh
Neat, discreet, petite. Got complimentary right angle stemma motion PIR? Or small PIR
inner spade
Automated solar cell positioning
shell mason
automated solar mirror positioning
inner spade
Your robot can ride into the sunset
shell mason
now with something to heat up like melt snow or ice in spring time helps
rotund marsh
Automated solar cell positioning
Great Scott has neat howto video https://youtu.be/_6QIutZfsFs
ionic garnet
thanks @haughty quiver
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
ionic garnet
Concise
inner spade
Thanks!
shell mason
more project ideas to use product picks rom previous as demo the this week prodcut pick
grand tusk
Thanks JP!
haughty quiver
thanks very much all!
ionic garnet
I also picked up another QT Py ESP32-S2.
cinder wind
make a robot cockroach: run from the light!
shell mason
rotund marsh
Rolodex for maker parts? Automated?
rotund marsh
automated solar mirror positioning
Want to make one of these as well.
inner spade
@haughty quiver pegboard upgrade: large object version
haughty quiver
haha I NEED this... thanks @inner spade
hard hollow
☕️🦔⚡️
rocky reef
good morning, afternoon, evening and night folks!
split gazelle
good morning folks
rocky reef
3DHangouts Episode 361 LIVE LED Emeralds, Book Covers and Dumpster Fires https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
unreal bay
Yo
rocky reef
shadow epoch
☕
shadow epoch
going to see if my print from last night failed! brb
rocky reef
get the Bluefruit Connec app https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bluefruit-connect/id1494760882?mt=12
Transparent PLA for diffusion https://amzn.to/37NKfZv
LED Emerald design files: https://a360.co/3www2dV
LED Emerald YouTube Video -
https://youtu.be/2uG8KtozPcE
Circuit Playground Bluefruit -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4333
500mah Battery
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1578
Latest Guides on - https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest
3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts
Learn Guide Project Code - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides
CircuitPython Downloads - https://circuitpython.org/
Layer by Layer – Etch Sketch Snap FIt Case
https://youtu.be/YPtBLRRF5BM
Layer by Layer CAD Tutorials Playlist: -
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOVsMp6nKnpjsXSQ45nxfORb
Adafruit Fritzing Library parts - https://github.com/adafruit/Fritzing-Library/tree/master/parts
shadow epoch
Lawn gems!
rocky reef
Book End Inspiration: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbC80lsNQJh/?utm_medium=copy_link
open surge
The only reason I ever bought yellow PLA was for a Watchmen project, now it looks like I have another one. That is seriously cool!
unreal bay
Don't forget yellow safety boxes with big red buttons, or yellow diggers...
split gazelle
i'll definitely be printing that
hard hollow
split gazelle
maybe Maus I & II? also 1984, brave new world, fear and loathing in las vegas, i could go on...
i love books
rocky reef
Dumpster Fire - Bianca Wright
https://www.thingiverse.com/biancaw/designs
https://youtu.be/XqkPjqcDEEk
https://www.thingiverse.com/make:1022016 hylian shield
dry marten
Thanks for the show!
unreal bay
Thanks as always. Can you guys work on a stair climbing tank for watering pot plants please, slug collecting a valuable stretch goal 😁
rocky reef
split gazelle
great show guys!
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
hard hollow
thank yoou! cya tonight folks
open surge
thank you!
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
shadow epoch
Thanks! Love listening to you guys! I could watch a 'satisfying snap fit' video channel all day, if it existed.
hard hollow
Noe's Top Ten Snapfits 😺
shadow epoch
slo mo build up, then 'Click' ...
shell mason
hope you have great time
slim vale
https://youtu.be/5IIziiX5ap4
Do you think getting up at midnight is worth it for that ?
alpine radish
Nothing I would share on SnT because it's particularly advertorial. But I'm kinda happy with the way the first 90 seconds of this video came out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUryWzlFQK0
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/8tefdyn5t6
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
viral sail
Good evening everyone.
dim wigeon
Hi everyone! 👋
alpine radish
Hey y'all!
hard hollow
👋🏽
nova totem
Evening everybody
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/5IIziiX5ap4
tulip canyon
Howdy folks
smoky island
👋
ionic garnet
Hi people
open surge
Hey all
shell surge
👋
haughty quiver
👋
split gazelle
good evening folks
short chasm
SHOW AND TELL
upbeat coral
I from Lulvle Ky. It's spelled by strangers - Louisville.
split gazelle
matryoshka emeralds
tulip canyon
facet-nating
shell surge
I from Lulvle Ky. It's spelled by strangers - Louisville.
hi from France 🙂
nova totem
Oh I need to print some of those for my brother for the graphic novels
proven crow
Hi all!
shell surge
this usb gadget look so cool
open surge
Need that STL. 🙂
restive owl
We're going to need a new #baby-photos for Scott
proven crow
woah! is that a pyportal or a feather tft?
shell surge
look like a pyportal
nova totem
That looks great @haughty quiver now the music is stuck back in my head
proven crow
Star wars: Wrath of the vector
short chasm
wait, what's up with the if you use "Py" you'll get sued? is Py trademarked?
ionic garnet
neat Liz!
dim wigeon
That’s snazzy!
haughty quiver
@proven crow it's the TFT FeatherWing and a Feather RP2040
hard hollow
exciting! 🍕😸
smoky island
Pizzza Kitties!!! 😺
rapid hornet
wait, what's up with the if you use "Py" you'll get sued? is Py trademarked?
pyxar I think
nova totem
That is cool @split gazelle very psychedelic vibe
split gazelle
That is cool <@!347203168121126912> very psychedelic vibe
thanks!
short chasm
pyxar I think
ah, ok. i guess she was joking about getting sued by pixar. lol
dim wigeon
@split gazelle That was very neat! Reminds me a little of some of the old Scanimate animations.
haughty quiver
smoky island
Great job @split gazelle , I love idea of the tactile physical inputs to manipulate virtual. Looks super fun.
proven crow
@low fractal Are you using the EEPROM i2c bus? I didn't know of another on the Pi
nimble jackal
Ah. Switching multiple i2c busses.
rapid hornet
pi4 has a bunch of i2c
strange mantle
there's also bitbang i2c that can be on any (i think) gpio
split gazelle
<@!347203168121126912> That was very neat! Reminds me a little of some of the ol...
thanks!
split gazelle
Great job <@!347203168121126912> , I love idea of the tactile physical inputs to...
thank you! yeah this has been really fun to work on
nova totem
That's cool @radiant ridge I'd love to see how you made the wearable eye glasses
ionic garnet
great stuff all
alpine radish
Lots of fun!
viral sail
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing!
hard hollow
great projects tonight everyone!
proven crow
👋
dim wigeon
Cool projects, everyone!
tulip canyon
Great projects all. Thanks for sharing
split gazelle
great projects everybody!
upbeat coral
Thank you all for sharing your time with us.
ionic garnet
one of my fave shows!
radiant ridge
I am working on instructions @nova totem I plan on making a video soon and taking more pictures of the process
https://www.mrdcreations.org/hardware-build
alpine radish
I just want more projects.
nova totem
I am working on instructions <@!228322543507865601> I plan on making a video soo...
Thanks! My friend forever wants me to build some sort of assist for my go-kart helmet and this is great
alpine radish
I don't care that projects take..you..know...actual time.
Just more..more...more!!!!
dim wigeon
thanks!
Now that the SnT stream is over, here’s a link for the Scanimate, for inspiration maybe? (I can’t switch apps while I’ve got YouTube and Discord both up on my iPad or Discord loses its input box…)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanimate
split gazelle
Now that the SnT stream is over, here’s a link for the Scanimate, for inspiratio...
cool!
robust horizon
didn't get a chance to say hi during S&T so I'll say it now: hi everybody!
my show & tell is: something went wrong at oshpark so my PCB came with extra holes in it. not sure what happened, but I have a souvenir and they're re-fabbing the boards
https://644db4de3505c40a0444-327723bce298e3ff5813fb42baeefbaa.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/de4c801d7ad361731b3302c26055dc88.png nope don't see any holes here
nova totem
They are speed holes, helps it go faster, less air resistence
robust horizon
I could probably make the board work, just 2 traces are affected but I could also handle putting off the project until the fixed boards show up 🙂
split gazelle
oh wow!
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/K7FihOby6s4
ionic garnet
cool music
turbid hill
@robust horizon I got my 4 apple floppy drives although first 2 need cleaning since they were used by a smoker. I also got pcbway to make me some of the floppy feather hat boards
@robust horizon is your pcb designed for the apple drive I notice it's 20 pin
robust horizon
@turbid hill I must have lucked out, my apple //e and 3 floppies were all non-smoky. I'm going to be putting the floppy stuff aside soon to get back to concentrating on circuitpython but I hope you can get those boards going.
@turbid hill a good eye. Yes, but it may be a project that gets shelved / waits until I can do it on my own time.
turbid hill
@robust horizon oky doky if the gerber files are available I might get a few built, once you fix the oops extra holes
robust horizon
not yet!
turbid hill
no problem I got plenty to work on
robust horizon
the project is a drive emulator, so it's going the "opposite way".
turbid hill
thats ok I have the dos-emu unit and it works real well
robust horizon
I did find an open source apple 2 floppy emulator but it's a rather old and probably not maintained design.. https://github.com/rbanffy/sdisk2 https://tulip-house.ddo.jp/digital/SDISK2/english.html
turbid hill
Yes I have seen that one
robust horizon
I got a BMOW drive emulator so that's nice, but my goal is to show that an RP2040 would be good for this task
turbid hill
cool
proven crow
This is what makes Adafruit unique in such a good way. They're so proactive
dim wigeon
I feel like, more than a lot of other companies, Adafruit doesn’t spend time talking about their company culture and core values, they LIVE them.
dim knot
upbeat coral
I was a Nuclear Weapons Technician and custodian in the Navy. The Priminister of Slovenia today said this - Death is death, by nuclear, chemical, or biological, death is death.
strange mantle
16 bit dac
open girder
10% discount code, code is: twofact http://www.adafruit.com
tame geyser
humans 1 scalpers 0 
dim knot
hot frigate
I did not know that was pronounced FACK.
open girder
delicate fractal
I did not know that was pronounced FACK.
It's hard to otherwise pronounce the Q
tropic oxide
Where can I find the python code that can make a 2FA code?
nimble jackal
I have 3 hardware keys and an authenticator app 😃
hot frigate
It makes complete sense. Just new to me. Gonna start using it.
tame geyser
if we let the bots win inst that the start of skynet :/
open girder
@tropic oxide https://learn.adafruit.com/search?q=python%25202fa
tropic oxide
Thank you @open girder
nova totem
It's the same with sports/concert tickets. While the scalpers complain about the barriers the general public by FAR supports measures to stop bots buying everything
halcyon linden
I have Google Authenticator and it works well on my iPhone. It's just an app and I use it for many sites.
clear matrix
1Password supports 2FA. So when you fill in a password, it has the 2FA code ready to go. I also use Yubikeys for 2FA where possible.
dim wigeon
The phrase “feeding frenzy” is provoking some…entertaining…mental imagery right now…
robust horizon
Do you make any provision to notify "older" subscriptions first, or is it arbitrary?
cinder wind
mmm taco
open girder
@robust horizon yep, older ones first
upper sandal
note that in theory your 2FA should be on a different device than the one you access the site from, otherwise it remains a single point of failure, and also not use the same password manager 🤷
turbid hill
Google is supposed to be using mms instead which is encrypted sms
upper sandal
are MMS encrypted ? I don't think so
no phone standard is encrypted, end-to-end encryption is not their vibe
turbid hill
yes google said that they want all phone carriers to use the mms instead because it's more proteced than older sms
There was blog article from google talking about this two years ago
upper sandal
that must not have been about MMS
turbid hill
Google actually uses now about 7 different 2fa methods from 6 digit code to verify emails to touch the popup app to verify it's you
check out current gmail 2fa system
ionic garnet
Bravo!
upper sandal
it's fascinating that on the other end Espressif is plentiful, don't know what devil they signed a contract with
cinder wind
yeah old stuff. we can get old stuff on ebay at least 🙂
robust horizon
That's my friend Chris -- he was a good sport about letting me film his old computer
his expertise is watch repair https://timeguy.com/cradek/
cinder wind
that is so cool @robust horizon
dim wigeon
That was cool! I’m not quite old enough to have ever used paper tape.
robust horizon
I don't think I had been in the presence of a working tape reader before that
maybe at the computer history museum in seattle
nimble jackal
I remember splurging on the oiled paper tape because the dry stuff wasn't as good
weak turret
Just discovered the YouTube stream is much more popular than the twitch stream. And then i found yall here. hey folks!
upper sandal
that's Bob Ross's phone
turbid hill
I missed tape readers and punch card, when I did grade 10 they were on my first day removing all the old IBM gear and replacing it with commodore pet
robust horizon
this is the archive.org version: https://archive.org/details/ElektorMagazine/Elektor[nonlinear.ir] 1979-07_08/
delicate fractal
I LOVE that phone!
weak turret
Yall remember 2600 magazine? this looks like a cover of one of their magazines
cinder wind
I loved the old Byte magazine covers https://medium.com/@talesofhorror/vintage-technology-daydreams-byte-magazines-extraordinary-cover-illustrations-7f9033666fa3
turbid hill
I ordered the whole elektor magazine archive on usb key
dim wigeon
I remember visiting the University of Toronto’s Cray when I was in high school.
ivory kiln
Q: Open source community etiquette question - If a mesh file design is posted on thingiverse, the author said that they use this design in there schoolroom class, & is posted under Creative Commons - Attribution license, but said that they couldn't post the C.A.D. files. I went threw did a bunch of changes, & added my own parts. Would it be wrong for me to then post my completed design, that includes OG, modified, & my completely newly made parts on my thingiverse including my F3D files?
Or would that be disrespectful?
left needle
That phone shows how different the order of operations is to current phones. You HAD to lift the receiver to dial the number.
turbid hill
My dad built scale models at work for building refineries
earnest fulcrum
I have the analog apple watch....lol
ivory kiln
That's awesome! The little Craw set. 🙂 Could that be C.A.D.ed & the mes files be shared online?
weak turret
Next hat would be dope
halcyon linden
Where's the NEXT turtleneck?
smoky island
🐢
digital crescent
that sub is dope!
earnest fulcrum
Kevin McAleer made some 3D models to build a raspi zero cluster that looks like a cray...
http://www.clustered-pi.com/
left needle
Go @smoky island!!!
upper sandal
submarine emote when ? 😛
earnest fulcrum
Where he go so many pi zero 2's I have no idea...lol
robust horizon
little gag from that Elektor magazine, among all the useful schematics
digital crescent
Where he go so many pi zero 2's I have no idea...lol
they used to exist in the before times
earnest fulcrum
they used to exist in the before times
That is true....I've only got one v2 and now have a project that might need more...just keeping an eye out
digital crescent
That is true....I've only got one v2 and now have a project that might need more...
earnest fulcrum
https://rpilocator.com/
So depressing to look at 0 zeros on that site 😛
I have a couple zero 1.3s that may do that job
left needle
That is true....I've only got one v2 and now have a project that might need more...
I actually discovered Adafruit through whereismypizero.com, which doesn't appear to exist anymore.
nova totem
That was my first thought - would I want to get notifications for all the Adafruit repos. I know how many I get while contributing, without getting a fraction of them all
earnest fulcrum
Once I get it working on the Pi zero then I'll try something similar with CircuitPython on an ESP32-S2....I'm pretty sure there is a socketio client
upper sandal
no thanks, I already subscribe to a few CP repos, and that's enough for me 😛
turbid hill
I found the pcb boards section in git and used the floppy feather hat and had boards made at pcbway, worked well.
cinder wind
I've learned so much about Arduino / CircuitPython / etc from watching some of the adafruit github repos. thanks!
left needle
Waiting for the C3 QT Py to restock.
split gazelle
“Assemble the blahaj” is the greatest header I’ve read today
robust horizon
When I was added to the Adafruit organization I got a LOT of messages. I unsubscribed to a lot of them, but it's still not a walk in the park if I don't stay caught up.
rotund marsh
@open girder Do you already, or have plans for implementing order batching, similar to Amazon delay shipping. Take payment at time of mini order, securing stocked item. But, enable Customers to pre define e.g. 1-14 days, or trigger delivery. Adafruit retains right to trigger delivery any time given their warehouse space constraints.
Goals:
- Reduce overall shipping costs for Customers
- Reduce total packaging Adafruit uses, increases Adafruit's margin.
- Increase timeframe Adafruit gets to hold income, increases Adafruit's margin.
- Enable delivery smoothing, batched deliveries means less carbon footprint.
- Reduce friction/resistance for Customers to add parts.
- Ideally, I'd like to load up on non time critical parts throughout the week, e.g. JPs pick, new products, recently stocked products. But without paying delivery per sub-order.
Cheers for requiring multi factor auth for purchasing educational devices.
earnest fulcrum
Once I get it working on the Pi zero then I'll try something similar with Circui...
Hrm...maybe not...might have to try with C instead
earnest fulcrum
<@!329767998380310538> Do you already, or have plans for implementing order batc...
Oh man that would be sweet!
median relic
The Cray was so much smaller than I thought when I saw it at the Computer History Museum in San Jose. Back then, you'd have a "raised floor room" not a data center, cuz all the cables went below the floor.
upper sandal
Once I get it working on the Pi zero then I'll try something similar with Circui...
remind me what is socketio ?
earnest fulcrum
remind me what is socketio ?
Basically an implementation of websockets...or maybe alternative is a better way to put it
upper sandal
there's a socketio library for Micropython, and I ported uwebsockets for CP, so I could look into that
https://github.com/danni/uwebsockets
earnest fulcrum
there's a socketio library for Micropython, and I ported uwebsockets for CP, so ...
Oh! Nice!
upper sandal
or you could use my websockets port, which I still haven't cleaned up for the community bundle, but still
https://github.com/Neradoc/websockets-for-circuitpython
turbid hill
@open girder It would be nice to use DHL DDP which allows the duty/tax to be rolled into the shipping cost so it gets to Canada with less delay for customs work.
open girder
@turbid hill huh, check the shipping FAQ, we do (unless something has changed) -- https://www.adafruit.com/shipping
earnest fulcrum
or you could use my websockets port, which I still haven't cleaned up for the co...
I'll have to check it out! I've got web clients using socketio now, but an starting to work on user-less devices connecting to receive commands.
delicate fractal
Could you use this pressure sensor with a pitot tube to measure air speed?
turbid hill
@open girder I will check on my next purchase but I did not see that option.
nova totem
I'll have to check but usually I end up paying DHL duties after my order - but get a SMS when its on its way to pay DHL so I'm not delayed. (I get a lot of orders in 2-3 days via DHL)
nova totem
<@!329767998380310538> I will check on my next purchase but I did not see that o...
Not sure if you can set up a DHL account to set your preferences. Been so long since I did that
open girder
might be not for all locations, shipping is complicated more so lately!
nimble jackal
Wonder if that's precise enough for a pitot tube
delicate fractal
I don't think I've ever had to pay for duties when delivering to Toronto... but maybe I set up the ddp thing and don't remember...
earnest fulcrum
I'll have to check it out! I've got web clients using socketio now, but an start...
Thank you for the pointers!!
proven crow
I'm setting up more 2FA right now!
delicate fractal
Wonder if that's precise enough for a pitot tube
I imagine that if the single-port one is accurate enough for an altimeter, the dual-port would work for airspeed... I suspect VSI is the application that needs more accuracy.
dim knot
Adafruit QT Py ESP32-S2 WiFi Dev Board with uFL Antenna Port - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5348
Bluefruit LE Sniffer - Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE 4.0) - nRF51822 - Firmware Version 2 https://www.adafruit.com/product/2269
Adafruit PiUART - USB Console and Power Add-on for Raspberry Pi https://www.adafruit.com/product/3589
dim wigeon
Those bugs are super cute!
digital crescent
yeah those look fun
dim knot
Solar Bug Kit 2.0 from Brown Dog Gadgets - 4 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5415
Solar Bug Kit 2.0 from Brown Dog Gadgets - 25-pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5416
dim wigeon
I might need to get some for my nephew.
digital crescent
I might need to get some for my nephew.
for your nephew or yourself?
nova totem
Those bugs are awesome
weak turret
sun make crab angry
turbid hill
That is how you scar the crap out of somone at work
dim wigeon
for your nephew or yourself?
On the advice of my attorney I decline to answer on the grounds that my response may tend to incriminate me. 😂
weak turret
imagine like 200 of those released on a boardwalk in the summer
echo canopy
Question for the show @open girder
Adafruit created a beautiful ANCS (Apple notification system ) Circuit Python library and working code
While it was created for the NRF52840 chip, is there anyway it can be ported to the ESP32 for CircuitPython/MicroPython 
Or an Ardunio port made that would support Bluetooth ~ ESP32? 
proven crow
Do you ever have to deal with (mental) burnout as an engineer? What do you do to cope?
ivory kiln
Q: is there a big difference between the S2 & the S3? Examples?
ionic garnet
gotta run. Thanks everyone. Have a great night
tribal iris
Best quuality humidty for esp8266 humidity sensor to live in humidor with fast cycle. No wRm ip cycles that could be polled quickly then back to deep sleep
left needle
@ionic garnet 'night bud
weak turret
Q: I notice a lot of common components are very available (chips and such), while many full boards like the raspberry pi are scarcely available. Would you comment on the current state of the supply chain issues as you understand them?
rotund marsh
Thank you for the response and digikey option, they've been helpful. Mini batch order for a week would be nice. 🙂
tribal iris
Using with esphome
left needle
Question: what's the product you use the most in your personal projects?
strong acorn
@ivory kiln also: S3 has 512KB SRAM, S2 has 320KB SRAM
tribal iris
Quest ion Best quuality humidty for esp8266 humidity sensor to live in humidor with fast cycle. No wRm ip cycles that could be polled quickly then back to deep sleep
nova totem
Finding other distractions helps me for burnout. Just take a week or two playing video games, hanging with friends, and just ignore my projects to give myself that mental break.
weak turret
That makes sense. Thank you for the answer!
upbeat coral
Thank you for taking time for us.
dim wigeon
Finding other distractions helps me for burnout. Just take a week or two playing...
I find that I feel burnout when I’m feeling unfulfilled, more so than when I’m tired.
tropic oxide
Thank you all!
robust horizon
goodnight. Thanks for talking about burnout, I think it needs to be heard.
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌗
proven crow
👋 💜
left needle
Thanks for the answer. I'n waiting on another RP2040 QT Py to come in this week.
split gazelle
Thanks folks!
cinder wind
thanks Limor & pt!
tribal iris
Glad i raced to get in and get my question in :(
nova totem
I find that I feel burnout when I’m feeling unfulfilled, more so than when I’m t...
I get that, I'm not tired just can't get the motivation at times. It can be tough to get through.
inner spade
@open girder Thank you for the show and inspiration.
dim wigeon
I get that, I'm not tired just can't get the motivation at times. It can be toug...
It can. I struggle too lately. I’m hoping my upcoming job change will help that problem. Initial signs are good…
slow spire
@tribal iris A BME280 would likely work well.
@tribal iris How often would you be polling it, and what would trigger polling?
If it’s for a humidor, hopefully humidity isn’t changing quickly anyway, so a reading from hours ago is probably still good
Right?
slow spire
Question for the show <:adafruit:454328690638061570> <@!329767998380310538>
Ad...
I’d imagine that Adafruit’s ANCS library (for CircuitPython) should work on top of BLE where supported in CP on ESP MCUs
(I’m not seeing Nordic-specifics in the ANCS library for CP)
In any event, my approach would be to try it, and file an issue if it doesn’t yet work.
earnest cosmos
Hey - WRT that Elektor cover art: The name looks like Ton Gulikers (sounds Dutch to me) so I googled that and got a hit on LinkedIn for an artist in the Netherlands. Might be a lead worth following:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ton-gulikers-74b1bb27/?originalSubdomain=nl
sudden slate
Thanks for the show - too bad about the AdaBoxes 😦
open girder
thanks @earnest cosmos checkin this out!
inner spade
☎️
lavish patrol
👋
ionic garnet
Hi folks
haughty quiver
📞
inner spade
👋
haughty quiver
🙌
lavish patrol
John Park's Workshop is Go for launch...
open surge
👋
spiral vale
it's that guy, on the show!
haughty quiver
hey neat!
lavish patrol
Le Bleeps, and le Bloops.
viral sail
Good afternoon.
smoky island
Hello, and good day to everyone 👋
midnight plinth
👍
ionic garnet
we the Discordant
drowsy inlet
hi all
inner spade
and also hello to just John Park
Master of gratuitous inclusion
smoky island
🟢 🟦 🔺
inner spade
Just need some doughnuts and arcs
lavish patrol
Mmmm. Doughnuts.
cinder wind
need to make the openscad-like library that creates all those shapes using just vectorio set operations
hey @smoky island do you know why that tearing occurs? I see that a lot in CircuitPython animations. looks like the standard no-double-buffer issue, but I can't figure out how it's happening
shell mason
nice ping pong demo
inner spade
… or perhaps some primitives based on ancient Evans ‘n Sutherland vector graphics.
smoky island
hey <@!382939733107408897> do you know why that tearing occurs? I see that a lot...
I don't know for sure. My best guess is that the system does something else like gc or other background tasks part way through the update which takes it a noticeable period of time.
shell mason
cinder wind
I don't know for sure. My best guess is that the system does *something else* li...
ahhh yeah I can imagine that. I bet it's USB again 🙂
slim vale
Thanks for making this broadcast early but I have to go to sleep, at little bit sooner or at week-end ant that would be perfect
ionic garnet
one strategy I've tried with moderate success to eliminate artifacts for displays is to manually envoke the GC at a less-critical time.
midnight plinth
Using lead free solder ?
clever summit
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen! 🇸🇪
split gazelle
late to the party but hi folks
lavish patrol
Good evening, @clever summit 😀
clever summit
Hey Liz
split gazelle
i've never seen that technique for starting off a header, taking note
brazen quail
It is looking cherry @johnpark ! :-D
clever summit
You need Blu Tac!
cinder wind
it's only March and we need A/C
clever summit
Running low? You are not supposed to EAT it!
glass stag
If you are going to do it that way, you have to hold your tongue to one side.
midnight plinth
I sometimes use a spot of superglue.
waxen bough
I thought I'd be a wise guy and say "What? No ferrules??" And there you go and mention it...
lavish patrol
I hate the ones with those spring things inside. I never know whether I'm supposed to put the wire above or below. 🤔
@ionic garnet Tells me they go above. 👍
lavish patrol
Give me WAGO connectors every time. 👍
smoky island
cooling down before done using the iron is much better than staying hot after I finish using but forget to turn it off.
lavish patrol
I used them for the first time when fixing my lights in the garage. I'm never going back.
ionic garnet
I bought my first set last month and now use them everywhere
waxen bough
Off-by-one errors are not just for programmers.
ionic garnet
I've tried other solderless connectors and some work ok but there's something very nice and reliable about WAGO
clever summit
cooling down before done using the iron is much better than staying hot after I ...
My lab is controlled by Home Assistant, it shuts down my soldering station if I leave the room.
green bison
Off-by-one errors are not just for programmers.
See Home Alone for a classic example
smoky island
My lab is controlled by Home Assistant, it shuts down my soldering station if I ...
Oooh that is a nice idea!
short chasm
Hey @haughty quiver , i'm here if you have any questions 🙂
smoky island
I'm glad to get to watch over JPs shoulder to see techniques for some of this stuff. Pulling the pins out of the middle of a row of header never occured to me before, but definitely have run across cases where it would be handy.
short chasm
correct, two of those wires are not used
let me check
INPUT is 3-35 V OUTPUT is 5-40V
the USB or LiPo is the input, and output can get near 40
cinder wind
yeah ruined cutters... I have two cutters: one really nice pair for trimming delicate things, one now-crappy messed up pair I use for snipping big terminals
sleek mountain
lol
inner spade
Tolerance bands on left or right? (OCD test question)
spiral vale
either as long as they're the same
clever summit
I put yellow cable ties on my good cutters so I don't mess it up as well
midnight plinth
the USB or LiPo is the input, and output can get near 40
Nice to see a good through hole project. 🙂
lavish patrol
The whole project is through hole...
short chasm
Nice to see a good through hole project. 🙂
thanks! i'm going to make a surface mount version for a compact ringer if people don't want to build it
waxen bough
Tolerance bands on left or right? (OCD test question)
I think bands should be in digit-order. But for god's sake, don't alternate directions!
ionic garnet
I don't know how to do surface mount
shell mason
surface mount things
ionic garnet
I think it involves a heating element I don't have
short chasm
surface mount is great! you can use an appropriate hot air gun or toaster oven.
ionic garnet
I have a good hot air gun
smoky island
There are some guides around for doing surface mount with old toasters or an EZBake oven.
short chasm
(btw, don't ever use the toaster oven for food afterwards)
clever summit
You can do SMD with a soldering iron as well.
cinder wind
This is why you should organize your shop by color: look for blue tac in the blue section
inner spade
I think bands should be in digit-order. But for god's sake, don't alternate dir...
L to R, top to bottom, right?
short chasm
if this doesn't work, it's JP's fault
shell mason
Lars telephone ring generator
lavish patrol
This is why you should organize your shop by color: look for blue tac in the blu...
What happens if you buy some that is yellow? 🤔
smoky island
What happens if you buy some that is yellow? 🤔
mix them together and file under green.
split gazelle
i have never actually seen blue blue tac. the kind i always find is white
inner spade
Electrons prefer resistance from left to right. Holes, well I just don’t know.
lavish patrol
i have never actually seen blue blue tac. the kind i always find is white
So file it in the white section. 😉
short chasm
here's the github if y'all are interested
https://github.com/MakeItHackin/TelephoneRinger
clever summit
i have never actually seen blue blue tac. the kind i always find is white
Same here. Blue Blu tac seems to be a UK thing?
lavish patrol
Same here. Blue Blu tac seems to be a UK thing?
I think it's an Aussie invention. 🤔
inner spade
Those aren’t “cutters” any more.
clever summit
Lol
lavish patrol
(that'd be new zealand i think)
Blu Tic.
short chasm
yep, ground is flat
cinder wind
Flat side of LED: looks like flat side of diode symbol, looks like a "–" sign, is negative, also looks like a "cat" whisker, thus it's the "cat"hode
spiral vale
(insert flat-earther joke here)
lavish patrol
Ground is flat, Earth is a sphere. 😉
spiral vale
flat-ish
clever summit
That kit seems to suffer from a total lack of pink LEDs
short chasm
i'm loving the vice
midnight plinth
lavish patrol
https://www.panavise.com/index.html?pageID=1&id1=1&startat=1&--woSECTIONSdatarq=...
Thanks. 😀 👍
viral sail
short chasm
omg, this is my first time seeing a helping hand to hold the solder... that's great
midnight plinth
You can get it from Adafruit ( PID 2452 )
grand tusk
The multiple talents of John Park.
midnight plinth
Chipquik!
smoky island
Oooh, the tip is a nice touch. The only solder pumps I've had were some kind of plastic that gets gnarled beyond recognition after a few usages.
waxen bough
clear matrix
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1597
Absolutely worth it.
dusk socket
two sided foam tape works real well for displays
short chasm
JP, on the old phones, the "American" ring will have more success than the "British" Ring
those extra wires are fine
shell mason
