live-broadcast-chat

[slow spire]

Good to hear

[idle spindle]

why dose acroins software mess with CP i had the reload every 5 sec problem

[slow spire]

acroins?

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[idle spindle]

the back up software

[slow spire]

Oh, interesting.

[turbid hill]

code is not working

[idle spindle]

@slow spire https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/troubleshooting about half way down the page

[turbid hill]

@open girder looks like nuggets is not working Invalid Coupon Code

[open girder]

hmm, will check

[slow spire]

@idle spindle I’d try asking that in a CircuitPython area on forums.adafruit.com, along with details on your OS and Acronis versions.

[open girder]

@turbid hill fixed!

thanks!

[turbid hill]

ok

[ivory kiln]

Hi all! ❤️

[grand tusk]

JP illuminated!

[turbid hill]

great nuggets nuggeting perfectly

[slow spire]

@idle spindle I’d also suggest checking for related issues on the CircuitPython GitHub, and filing a new one if needed

[fair scroll]

Does BFF stand for "Board Furthering Functions"??

[turbid hill]

best friends forever

[slow spire]

best friend’s feather

[turbid hill]

QUESTION: when is the floopy board and feather floppy interface board going to be on the store

[grand tusk]

wow that's vintage

[slow spire]

Wowwwww 😮

[queen saddle]

video quality is so cool, what are you using for video switching?

[rancid depot]

hi all!!!

[wraith thunder]

how much does the pick-n-place machine like that cost these days?

[open surge]

Hi everybody

[urban gale]

ooh that clock was heckin' cool

[shadow sigil]

question: what are the current and voltages for all the colours of the 16x9 charliplex led array?

[delicate fractal]

ok I have a question about the adabox: you've always been doing 4 boxes a year. How does going from "the halloween adabox" to "the fall adabox" make any difference?

[dim knot]

https://jobs.adafruit.com/

[slow spire]

It’s like a bit like buying a personal laser cutter now

[wraith thunder]

Thanks! I'm looking for pick-n-place machine recently.

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[slow spire]

Adorbz

[rancid depot]

I got a CharmHigh PnP chmt36va.Very basic but works

[nova totem]

I still haven't made a circuitpython 2022 post oops.

[slow spire]

Sounds like Dazzler

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython

[turbid hill]

A friend showed me that newer CNC will make pcb boards which looked realy interesting

[split gazelle]

video synth/mixer/effects would be very cool

[grand tusk]

Guess I should have held on to those floppies a little longer.

[turbid hill]

got a ton of pc and apple floppy's

[rancid depot]

love the spinning noises!! 🙂

analog rocks!!

[turbid hill]

I have a suspicion that reading that floppy could be more quieter if you interleave the reading of the sectors

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[slow spire]

Love the sonic and tactile feedback of floppies and spinning hard drives. That used to be the progress bar of last resort. Now with SSDs, sometimes it’s not clear if there’s a stall.

[ivory kiln]

Q: I'm looking into doing a run of CPX & CPB companion boards I designed that use the SMT / Solderable Standoff Nuts, next time Adafruit does a run of a product that uses them, could you please do a video showing how the nuts are soldered on the board? Going to be hand assembling & not sure how they best (short of having a pick & place of course) go on a board.

[robust horizon]

The camera guide update may be because of Kattni working on the factory reset / bootloader install pages for esp32-s2 boards generally

[brazen quail]

Coupon code not working. :-(

[turbid hill]

it was fixed, worked for me

[open girder]

@brazen quail try again if you had tried before, it was fixed 🙂

10% discount code, code is: NUGGETS http://www.adafruit.com

[clear matrix]

It is!

[robust horizon]

@brazen quail if you made the same mistake as me, it's "NUGGETS" not "NUGGET"

could also be the explanation

[turbid hill]

ooo more esp32

[viral sail]

No more sunset timelapses. 😦

[winter zinc]

sunsets are cancelled by Disney

[grand tusk]

qtpy new flavor: grape

[upper sandal]

when you wish upon a star, they block your view to the sun

[turbid hill]

need more of those qt-py esp32 in stock

[open girder]

we'll just zip line over soon 🙂

[dreamy notch]

I can't believe how responsive y'all are. On the Desk of Lady Ada stream, you said "ask for what changes you'd like for CircuitPython". I was thinging OG ESP32 and ESP32-C3 support, and by the end of the video you said it was coming!

[robust horizon]

your live caption guffaw of the week is ... featuring bollocks again

[open girder]

https://www.digikey.com/short/nddt5cvr

[urban gale]

Crimpin' ain't easy

Had to say it

[grand tusk]

This is how the machines win.

[fair scroll]

I still don't know how to fit those ends in the crimping tool lol (any crimping tool really now I think about it. 🤔 )

[split gazelle]

smol cat robots are the best robots

[slow spire]

It’s big crimpin’ / spending gigs

[wraith thunder]

Nice Kurzgesagt poster there

[light stump]

Hey @smoky island, it’s a great new project you put out on the PyPortal touchscreen with icons - sound maker. https://learn.adafruit.com/pyportal-wfh-busy-sounds-simulator. Nice work!

[smoky island]

Thank you 😄 Uses the GridLayout and IconWidgets.

[urban gale]

I don't make robots but I've had cables vibrate loose so many times. Love these

[shadow sigil]

question: what are the current and voltages for all the colours of the 16x9 charliplex led array?

[split gazelle]

pots!

[slow spire]

Hahahaha

[open girder]

@shadow sigil got that one loaded up for when we get to questions, stay tuned!

[shy topaz]

Hard to light.

[dim knot]

Rotary Potentiometers https://www.adafruit.com/category/670

[shadow sigil]

thx

[slow spire]

Looking forward to edible pots.

[dim knot]

USB Type C Plug to Plug Adapter https://www.adafruit.com/product/5328

[brazen quail]

Discount code dashare doesn't work with different user and computer. :-( Same error.

[delicate fractal]

was it just me, or did today's "new new new" song sound like beastie boys?

[light stump]

Question: How do you keep performing at such a high level of output for so long? It’s sometimes tedious work and with a lot of potential hiccups and y’all are very consistent. What do you do on those days when it feels tough to keep making progress?

[slow spire]

Oh that makes sense! Laptops, duh!

[dim knot]

SOIC 8-Pin Test Clip to DIP Adapter https://www.adafruit.com/product/5315

[grand tusk]

Can those be approved for use in medical devices? Asking for a friend.

[brazen quail]

"Invalid coupon code" when hitting apply button next to discount code.

[grand tusk]

The code is "nuggets".

[robust horizon]

"dashare" was some time ago, are you watching a re-run?

[grand tusk]

love the fishies

[dim knot]

Etched Glow-Through Keycap with Glitch Logo - MX Compatible Switches https://www.adafruit.com/product/5331

MCP4725 Breakout Board - 12-Bit DAC with I2C Interface - STEMMA QT / qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/935

[turbid hill]

how the cart filling going 🙂

[dim knot]

Adafruit QT Py ESP32-S2 WiFi Dev Board with uFL Antenna Port - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5348

[dreamy notch]

Question: once ESP32 and ESP32-C3 native support is added to CircuitPython, should it be easy to contribute pin definition files for 3rd party boards, like the M5 Stamp and M5 Stamp C3?

[nova totem]

Antennas are so weird even without worrying about connectors

[echo canopy]

Questions for the show @open girder

The QTPY ESP32-S2 what is the lowest battery voltage you’d recommend for this board ?

QtPY ESP32-S2 Would the best way to get the estimate on the battery to use the qwiic INA219 board along with the ESP board ?

Is it possible to get to the “enable” pin ?

[winter zinc]

question:

There was a Top Secret from the beginning of 2020 about a NAU7802 breakout board for reading load cells, but I guess it was never completed (Covid ruins everything).
Any plans to release that board? Preferably as a STEMMA QT? 🙂

[rancid depot]

Q: @open girder Back when you were using the Luna pick and place, how were you doing your solder paste application? did you have a pro reflow oven as well?

Q: @open girder how do you clean your SMD stencils for storage after using them? having clean stencils is super important without any clogs to get good paste application.

[ivory kiln]

Q: or could anyone recommend effective way to hand assemble the SMT / Solderable Standoff Nuts on to a board?

[fair scroll]

Q: @open girder Have you ever designed for curiosity (of other people) in a project, do you have random tip with this regard to really spice up the finishing touches of a project. (bit of a vague question I know, sry). p.s. Design for curiosity is making something so other people want to interact ask questions about your project etc.

[alpine nova]

Q: @open girder does adafruit carry a product that extends wired ethernet via electricity outlets and is that a viable and comparable method to straight wired from router to computer?

[split gazelle]

that's been my strategy...

[delicate fractal]

Great. Now I'm going to have Ministry stuck in my head. Thanks!

😆

[fair fulcrum]

hmm NRF52840 QT raytec module is pretty big. Definitely would be cool though!

[dim knot]

https://circuitpython.org/

[ebon stratus]

Q: @open girder which wire pack is correct for the 30mm arcade button and 1x4 breakout? thannk you

[shadow sigil]

@open girder sorry i meant the led board not the i2c

[ivory kiln]

Q: @open girder will the paste flow around from one side, or will I need to put paste on 2 or 3 sides of the whole?

[viral sail]

Question: Is there an ETA on the I2C backpack 7-segments with Stemma-QT?

[fallow fractal]

Q: any good way to estimate power consumption of the various boards -- such as Stemma QT Py and various Stemma QT boards?

[alpine nova]

thank you

[rotund marsh]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2690 , maybe measure with and without boards active/connected.

[viral sail]

Awesome. Thanks!

[lavish frost]

check out Powerline: https://www.netgear.com/home/wired/powerline/

[turbid hill]

Q; Also when the Floopy duper board be available you were showing two boards

[fallow fractal]

thats after you've purchased it. i'm talking prepurchase

[ivory kiln]

@open girder ❤️ Thank u ❤️

[fallow fractal]

@open girder thanks.

[ebon stratus]

Thank you

[idle spindle]

thank you guys

[viral sail]

Lots of good questions tonight. Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔

[ebon stratus]

for trying

[nova totem]

Thanks and great show

[slow spire]

Thanks Ladyada & Mr Ladyada!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[split gazelle]

thanks for a great evening of shows!

[robust horizon]

'night, take care!

[inner spade]

Thank you!

[west harbor]

Thank youuu

[alpine nova]

good night and thanks!

[urban gale]

Thanks Adafruit team. Thanks all.

[drowsy inlet]

thanks!

[open girder]

thanks!

[grand tusk]

Y'all are awesome!

[tulip canyon]

Thank you Adafruit folks. Have a great evening.

[winter zinc]

Thank you all! 🙂

[grim ginkgo]

@open girder Recently it was mentioned that you wanted to do "shields" for QT Py's but didn't want to call them shields nor capes nor... etc. Someone coined "Sparkles". Which I find very cute... But... Since the QT's have castellated edges, I can imagine some of these shields may make use of this, and will be directly stackable instead of the regular headers... And they would need to have cut outs to have breathing room for the chips on the bottom of the QT's... So I thought "Dimples" would be a cute name for these boards.

[open girder]

@grim ginkgo ! we had that in the list too!

dimples, cheeks, sorta like how you want to pinch the cute cheeks/dimples

[grim ginkgo]

Oh, sorry. 🙂

[open girder]

all good, keep the ideas coming

team has not decided yet

nuggets were mentioned too

BFF fits on the board

so for now, code name BFF, with mullet being a funny one (not using) and we're still seeing what name feels good -pt

[grim ginkgo]

Cheeks are cheeky too. I like it 🙂

[haughty quiver]

I'm calling them "beef cheeks".

[grand tusk]

Scoops. For your QTPy a la mode.

[lavish patrol]

Good morning all

Good afternoon all

Good evening all

[grand tusk]

Rise and shine.

[haughty quiver]

I'm up! what?

[grand tusk]

Naptime is over.

🧿

[inner spade]

👋

[shell mason]

larstime

Lars 2022

[lavish patrol]

The Lars Zone.

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[spiral vale]

party time, excellent

[lavish patrol]

Bleeps and Bloops!

[haughty quiver]

remember, the best way to defeat nap time is moar cofffffeeee

[lavish patrol]

I have tea.

[spiral vale]

☕

[lavish patrol]

And walnut cake.

[haughty quiver]

hey what are those worms doing in the coffee @spiral vale

[spiral vale]

shhhh... you'll make everyone want some

[viral sail]

🍺

[spiral vale]

👋

[shell mason]

Synth of all lars synthetizers

[lavish patrol]

Spot the Lars...

[cinder wind]

Folgers?

[shell mason]

Lars Synth Controller II

[spiral vale]

dang old collapsing magnetic fields

[lavish patrol]

Gotta watch those collapsing magnetic fields...

WAGO connectors FTW 👍

Warning! Lars is approaching. 😶

[shell mason]

Lars effect

[drowsy inlet]

can any input pin work for that?

or does it have to be a "capacitive" pin?

[viral sail]

You can make a planetarium with it.

[lavish patrol]

It's a model of the cupola on the Dragon capsule...

[inner spade]

View window for a glass-bottom RC boat with camera servo gimbal.

[grand tusk]

I use graphite to short the address jumpers.

[drowsy inlet]

thank you jp

[spiral vale]

Solution for laser-soot: wash the wood edges with an orange-pumice soap like "Gojo"

[cinder wind]

Put googly eyes on your circuit boards to get autofocus to work 🙂

[lavish patrol]

👀

[spiral vale]

frosted/matte plexi will usually have a white paper backing on the matte side

https://www.delviesplastics.com

[willow pollen]

"so I can't get that one wrong..." famous last words

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[cinder wind]

nothing like the feeling of peeling the film off of acrylic sheet

[lavish patrol]

True, that.

[inner spade]

JP needs a Foley person off-camera.

[lavish patrol]

That's what Lars is for.

[spiral vale]

function buttons in the front, party in the back

[cinder wind]

For labels, can you laser print some little transparent circles to fit into the arcade button tops?

[spiral vale]

I've done that

[willow pollen]

two tabs on each side of each panel would have stopped them trying to rotate around that central tab - could make aligning the corners easier

[spiral vale]

example:

[drowsy inlet]

audio?

[lavish patrol]

I think the audio died.

[drowsy inlet]

Lost audio right after quoting todbot's post

[willow pollen]

back

[drowsy inlet]

👍

[lavish patrol]

👍

[willow pollen]

I was talking about the panels, rather than the buttons

but it's no biggy

[cinder wind]

neat! the double layer approach is fancy

[drowsy inlet]

JP's Workshop: After-hours - should we order pizza?

[lavish patrol]

Mmmm. Pizza.

[inner spade]

Looking forward to the time-and-a-half coupon code.

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[inner spade]

The Duplo arcade switch.

[cinder wind]

the code is BUTTONSBUTTONSBUTTONSBUTTONSBUTTONSBUTTONS

[spiral vale]

how many buttons?

yes

[clear matrix]

All the buttons.

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[cinder wind]

hold the phone: there's a label maker for shrink tube?!?!?!

[spiral vale]

yes

[lavish patrol]

Yep.

[drowsy inlet]

i'll admit, they are transferring much quicker than i expected

[clear matrix]

Brother P-Touch has shrink tube tape for it.

[willow pollen]

electricians use them on installations a lot

and ethernet... ebvs

*obvs

[lavish patrol]

I almost bought one.

[shell mason]

made the arcade way

[cinder wind]

yeah that's the problem with making projects for publication: you gotta build it about 3 times: one to figure it out, one that actually works, and one to take pictures of during assembly

[clear matrix]

Oof, yeah. There's a reason there's not a guide for my tabletop light box photo studio.

[shell mason]

the connector soldering tube is cool

with it color options

[lavish patrol]

I keep wanting to upload stuff to Instructables etc., but I keep putting it off. 🤔

[willow pollen]

PT will finish before the pizza arrives

[lavish patrol]

It's nice when you get views. 👍

[cinder wind]

that's really clean looking, JP

[drowsy inlet]

what's that extra wire for?

j/k

[lavish patrol]

"Remove Before Flight"

[willow pollen]

that's what I was saying about two tabs per edge

it holds the corners better

22:22

[cinder wind]

go towards the light

[willow pollen]

the suspense...

[shell mason]

from dark comes to light

[lavish patrol]

Lars chewed through the cable.

[willow pollen]

more pizza

and coffee

[shell mason]

lars mindcontrol the arcade

[willow pollen]

i think you need to press the red button

[shell mason]

lars need to press the button?

[spiral vale]

unplug each breakout board one at a time?

[willow pollen]

did you sacrifice your first born to the demo gods?

[drowsy inlet]

in all honesty, seeing this part of the build is extremely useful - i'm used to SW debugging, but not HW debugging, so interesting to see the approaches

[inner spade]

It's beautiful. Still think it needs a pick guard and guitar strap.

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[drowsy inlet]

thanks jp!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[willow pollen]

cool project

[grand tusk]

Thanks JP, looking great!

[haughty quiver]

thanks much all!

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @haughty quiver 😀

[cinder wind]

Great stream, JP and boo project gremlins! I'm sure it's something pretty obvious once you see it

[haughty quiver]

hahah thanks @cinder wind I'm gonna find that mini-Lars in there chewing wires

Aha!

[ionic garnet]

sorry I missed you live today @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

See that one pin I hadn’t soldered? SDA pin for the I2C line 🙂

[ionic garnet]

Sometimes I have to work!

[haughty quiver]

So it had been working through shear luck up until now

[ionic garnet]

funny thing about coffee roasters: when I lived in California, Oregon, and Washington state, I drank Pete's and really oily dark roasts. Now that I live back in New England, where I grew up, I favor Duncan Donuts. Odd that my tastes depend on where I am!

[opaque hearth]

Always take time to celebrate solving the problem! 🥳

[haughty quiver]

Yay!!

[ionic garnet]

love your Discord handle Cuppa!

it's not as much fun watching this after the fact, even if only off by an hour!

[haughty quiver]

haha, I get it

[ionic garnet]

curious if anyone else here has one of the Seeduino Xiao Expansion boards? There are these 4 metal standoffs that depress a little under where the QT Py goes. They seem to prevent the board from plugging in. I will show a picture in a moment. I need to put headers on one of my QT Py's before I can try it out but wondering about these pins which seem too high.

at the bottom are the 4 pins I am talking about

I love these type of expansion boards for prototyping and have something similar for Pico, and Feather form factors, but none have those metal standoff-like pins

[steep dew]

What are those pins? They almost look like what the Pi uses for PoE...

[upper sandal]

those would be pogo pins for the bottom pads of the Xiao, which are debug pins

you could make the QT PY higher, or cut/desolder them

[ionic garnet]

OK. As long as I can still use with QT Py which has other stuff there. Yes perhaps cutting is best

[steep dew]

aaah

[ionic garnet]

desoldering is not one of my core strengths!

i don't think I have long enough headers unless I cut some tall feather headers to the right size for the QT Py dimensions

[upper sandal]

(pogo pins: https://www.adafruit.com/?q=pogo&sort=BestMatch)

[vivid ore]

Those are pogo pins, they should compress down to the height of the headers. I wouldn't prioritize cutting them until after you have headers for a test fit.

[upper sandal]

I wouldn't want to risk a contact with the board though

[vivid ore]

I thought contact with the board was the whole point of the pins...?

[upper sandal]

on the xiao, not on the QT PY

they are not for a QT PY

[vivid ore]

Ahhhhhhhh I see

I totally did not register the QtPy and Xiao as two separate boards...

[worldly rain]

I have a custom board based on the ESP32-C3 and I'd like to try CP on it. I'm having trouble locating how I can start. The board has USB directly connected to the ESP32 and I've confirmed that the board works in Arduino so I'm ready for the next step but I'm not sure how to proceed.

[upper sandal]

do you mean C3 or S3 ?

[worldly rain]

C3

[upper sandal]

I don't know the exact status of the ESP32-C3 support, but it's super alpha. And it doesn't support USB OTG so it can't be used the usual way with CP. There is a board that serves as a reference for the development of the port and you could try starting there (and ask your questions in #circuitpython-dev ) https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/main/ports/espressif/boards/microdev_micro_c3
https://learn.adafruit.com/building-circuitpython
https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-add-a-new-board-to-circuitpython

the build for that board might work if it's using the same module (minus the pin names)
https://circuitpython.org/board/microdev_micro_c3/

[worldly rain]

It's supported in 7.1 according to the releases

I didn't find how you start with a blank chip, what has to be flashed first to the chip?

[upper sandal]

it's very very alpha, and I don't know that anyone but microdev has even used it so far

you flash it with esptool

[worldly rain]

I think on the CP page there's a BIN download so I'll just use esptool to flash that, any special address or settings I need with esptool?

[vivid ore]

https://circuitpython.org/board/ai_thinker_esp32-c3s/ might be a slightly better starting point, seeing as it makes more pins available to start.

[worldly rain]

Yeah, that's the page I saw but I couldn't find how to start off with a blank board/chip

[upper sandal]

you should move your questions to #circuitpython-dev

[vivid ore]

Um, not sure if there are any issues with chip detection currently, but there have been some issues with it in the past.

[worldly rain]

yeah, sorry, i missed the dev page

I'll hop over to the dev page just to clarify the steps needed to test

[paper peak]

Use the 7.2.0-alpha.x version, not 7.1.0, which is not keeping up with the alpha version for new changes

[worldly rain]

@paper peak Yes, I saw that it's supported but I couldn't find what to do if you are starting with a blank board/chip. I'm over on the #circuitpython-dev page now though waiting to see if someone can point me to page with info.

[sudden gate]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays

[rapid hornet]

notes doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mHxMgaZn9gcfhbyDOpfH5enRd2FPSqknr-SSIfYJMjc/edit?usp=sharing

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet Someone stole your hair!!!

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott. It's going to be super cold this weekend here in Buffalo.

[open surge]

Hi Scott

[sudden gate]

Hello All !

[nova totem]

Which reminds me (I think again) I really need a haircut

[eager matrix]

Gob ills!

[fallow fractal]

Hellow

[modern night]

o/ Hi all

[eager matrix]

Oh man, Scott just pointed at me.

[open surge]

oh cool

[eager matrix]

It going to be 5 degrees here tomorrow monrning.

[sudden gate]

❤️ that … shown well

[upper sandal]

[left pier]

👋

[nova totem]

I finally remembered to post just before this

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[left pier]

Deep Dive Review of CP 2021 Notes
https://github.com/adafruit/deep-dive-notes/blob/main/2021/2021-01-15.md

ugh auto sticker sorry

[rapid hornet]

https://blog.adafruit.com/tag/circuitpython2022/

[left pier]

congrats !

[timid plover]

congratulations!

[left pier]

But we'll miss you

[modern night]

woo congrats!

[eager matrix]

Awesome Congratualtions.

[nova totem]

Congrats! (could hit close to my birthday 🙂 )

[odd zodiac]

Hi All belated happy new year from Cornwall.

[ornate coyote]

Oh WOW!!!! Congrats @rapid hornet !!!!!

[open surge]

Congratulations!

[left pier]

CP for Toddlers

[earnest cosmos]

Cat cam -> baby cam!

[nova totem]

The flexiable moisture sensor could potentially be woven into something?

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet Disposables ALL THE WAY!!!

[modern night]

VOC sensors nearby

[open surge]

My wife and I did cloth for our last 2 kids, I recommend it, it was way better than I expected

[fickle umbra]

YAY for tanpole (cuz baby newt = tadpole)

[open surge]

they're much more modern now and easy to clean

[fickle umbra]

And when they're a teenager, Taneft

[nova totem]

The important thing is worry about the baby/family #1 and everyone else will keep CP going while you're busy

[eager matrix]

529

[drifting arch]

@fickle umbra and when it's an adult....Tangent (if a male)

[fickle umbra]

Kiddo's already got nicknames. It's great

[eager matrix]

I don't even like to plan what I'm having for lunch tomorrow.

[sudden gate]

❤️ all you do @rapid hornet … will continue to follow what we can

[left pier]

You can get back to those drone projects and track your kiddo ...

[light stump]

Question about CP hardware testing for displays: It would be nice to query a display to verify the display is showing what you expect. Is there a concept where the host device (running CircuitPython) could tell the peripheral display to dump its contents and a separate “validation of code” peripheral device could read that dump and compare with a known good output. This could be used to debug code issues with revision changes and also debug any communication issues (for example to identify the one glitch that was observed by too high of a display bus speed).

[smoky island]

BitmapSaver library can save a screenshot. Then CPython code running on a PC can use PIL to compare it with "known good" copies of the iamge.

[fickle umbra]

That solves composition, but not transmission issues.

[left pier]

https://learn.adafruit.com/sound-reactive-sunflower-baby-crib-mobile-with-bluetooth-control

string parsing for a better world

[ornate coyote]

By the end of 2023, Espressif will have 999 SKUs of MCUs and modules 😉 <- calling this here now!

[fickle umbra]

I mean, you do your ~40 a week on bending embedded stuff to your will, gotta have a little bit of variety 😉

[eager matrix]

A good hobby is reading with your kid.

[simple fractal]

i used to read to my niece. and fall asleep during some bear story

[fickle umbra]

I'm 90% sure there's a arduino BTHID library out there, but I do not remember where it is or it's requirements...

[upper sandal]

I made a BLE macropad with an M0 bluefruit feather with Arduino, there's examples for that in the learn guides

or maybe it's in the Arduino examples

[eager matrix]

I got my sister to watch this. I'm getting getting her started using a Circuit Playground Express. Maybe say hi to Jane for me.

[modern night]

*reflexively saying bless you and confusing my partner in the other room*

[ionic garnet]

Hi Scott! Nice haircut!

[left pier]

Have you seen that the regressions are board or port specific or are they general regressions (affect all)

[fallow fractal]

I'm hoping non-iDevices will get some love for BLE workflows. I've been unable to get code.circuitpython.org working on neither Android or PC

[left pier]

Maybe the community can identify "Port Champions" (or maybe the chip mfgers can step in here)

who would test ports

[turbid hill]

What is the timeline for ESP32-S3 gets Arduino support

[fickle umbra]

Hey Scott, I've got a hopefully simple-ish RPi CP baremetal question for you: are Pi3 and/or Pi400 on the map?

[modern night]

Do you have an automated hardware testing repo (or repos) from your prior attempts?

[timid plover]

every pull request that fixes bugs should have test cases, right?

[rapid hornet]

https://github.com/physaCI

[modern night]

Thank you!

[balmy tinsel]

Do you have any thoughts on doing simulated hardware tests? I don't believe that would be a complete replacement but from what I think I understand it could fill some gaps.

[left pier]

I think if one skips the "test all the hardware at once" and get to something a person could run on their own, we could easily get 10-20 people to run the tests.

[last coral]

Hi everyone, Hi Scott. Have a great new year everyone. Sorry I’m kinda late…

[simple fractal]

https://github.com/espressif/arduino-esp32/issues/5594#issuecomment-1001514885

lol

they say its 'just around the corner' lol

[fickle umbra]

P400's C port works for gadget mode I think

[ornate coyote]

S3 in Arduino has not even started on the publicly facing commits - Maybe work has started internally and they'll just dump a bunch of stuff, but they are still working on more solid IDF support right now.

[ornate coyote]

They didn't say which corner!

[simple fractal]

well isnt S2 working great in arduino 🤓

couldnt find the right emoji

[light stump]

Sorry but text only in case this was covered on stream.

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet I know not a priority, but any more thoughts on allowing either FS access to the OTA partitions if folks want, or a way to disable OTA to reclaim more flash space for those that want?

[eager matrix]

Hi @ornate coyote how are things going? I've missed your streams (Had COVID, but I'm better now). I'm going to go catch up soon.

[grand tusk]

Is OTA strictly an ESP feature?

[fickle umbra]

BRB, downloading cackles with glee

[turbid hill]

Apparently there is a espressif discord channel

[ionic garnet]

random fact: I had a patent related to Symantec's LiveUpdate, which was one of the very first OTW (over-the-wire) update mechanism in the 1990s! The patent wasn't on the concept of OTW/OTA but rather on the implementation details

the patent expired though

[simple fractal]

IDF support as of whenever

[eager matrix]

@turbid hill can you post a link?

[ornate coyote]

Oh, sorry to hear, but glad you're feeling better!!!

[light stump]

This would only replicate what CP “thinks” is displayed on the screen. What about knowing if there is a bus error like we saw on this?: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/4775. One would have to read data directly from the display to verify. (Edited)

[eager matrix]

Thanks,. It was super mild so the only downside was isolating.

[turbid hill]

@eager matrix it won't let me but search google for 'Espressif MCUs - Discord"

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet Ok, will do, thanks 🙂

[smoky island]

agree'd. The case of the communication getting wonky inbetween is a lot more tricky to test for.

[simple fractal]

there is a non-official espressif discord server

From espressif site somewhere.

[turbid hill]

how does one tell official from non official discord channel

[ornate coyote]

Ahh, Discord won't let me post the Espressif Discord link.

[simple fractal]

i just googled espressif discord and something popped up

[eager matrix]

Thanks. Arm has a discord as well.

[simple fractal]

i think people have asked for a discord server and espressif said 'use the forums'

[turbid hill]

ahh

[balmy tinsel]

Generally I would make sure the link you're using to join the channel comes from a official and or trusted source. It wouldn't be hard to fake an official discord.

[turbid hill]

ok

[ornate coyote]

The discord server is official. Mods are Espressif folks. Well, the one I am on.

[simple fractal]

ahh, i have to see which one i'm on.

[turbid hill]

the one I found discord id ends in ZPbF

[simple fractal]

the one i'm one has Sprite_fm as a mod.

[turbid hill]

yay that is the one

[grand tusk]

I must insist on lead-free discord.

[lyric frost]

😀

[turbid hill]

cool I can ask questions since I have too many ESP boards now

[nova totem]

I can look at it

[left pier]

Its just a one line change ...

[nova totem]

Reviewed

[turbid hill]

I have that ESP but I think I only loaded blink on it so far

[upper sandal]

I believe the N8R8 build works, I tested the PR for it

[turbid hill]

I had no problem pushing code to it

using esp-idf framework 4.4

[timid plover]

mention of two-factor code - reminds be to warn about that you may rely on those "back up" codes when you get a new phone 😦

[light stump]

Maybe it would work if the CP device itself could query the display and compare to the displayio output buffer.

[grand tusk]

Scott said that reading from the display is usually not connected.

[rapid hornet]

https://adafruit-circuit-python.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html?prefix=bin/espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/

https://discord.gg/xq88nEtejb

[turbid hill]

woot were now more powerful with morez discordz

[robust horizon]

Hi, just popping in with my hat as a community moderator on. The Dyno moderation system removes posts with discord links due to past abuse. Sorry for the trouble, I see that you and at least one other user have been attempting to post non-abusive links to real Discords but the bot can't distinguish.

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet Procrastinate!!!

[robust horizon]

.. but dyno doesn't moderate the moderators so Scott was able to post it, yay.

[simple fractal]

makes sense @robust horizon

grok, heinlein

[ornate coyote]

All good! I think it's a good idea that only mods can post them 🙂

[simple fractal]

like TANSTAFL

[robust horizon]

apologies if Scott already mentioned it in the stream, I'm not tuned in live today. Carry on! 👋

[grand tusk]

heinlein, grok

Who dat?

[ornate coyote]

We have a @proper trench in da house!

[nova totem]

ha I thought that was my computer ringing

[simple fractal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain't_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch

[waxen bough]

"Grok" is from from "Stranger in a Strange Land". Basically deep understanding.

[simple fractal]

its tech, hence unknowable

[left pier]

Loud and Clear

[simple fractal]

grok is from my generation. lol

[eager matrix]

Ha @proper trench. Hope you're doing well.

[fickle umbra]

@rapid hornet Sadness: either I have a Creatively Funky microSD, or7.2.0-a1 does not like P400

[eager matrix]

Nerd vernacular.

[simple fractal]

do like yak shaving

[fickle umbra]

Did.... Did Lady A just call me a particularly crusty nerd?

[celest spoke]

Ping was originally the story about a duck that retrieved things.

[left pier]

W. Coast Nerds all Grok...

[grand tusk]

If it quacks like a duck...

[balmy tinsel]

Can confirm West coast has some very crusty nerds

[simple fractal]

now we can discuss unix command name origins

[fickle umbra]

It's a LadyAda!

[waxen bough]

I believe Ping came from old telephone continuity testing.

[sudden gate]

Hello @proper trench ❤️❤️❤️

[lean salmon]

Bought Grokking Algorithms in Powell's books (Portland) which probably makes me a crusty nerd

[simple fractal]

well i wrote my first hashing code in Fortran. a mix assembler.

[left pier]

I see a joint YT stream with the 8-Bit Guy

He restores retro hardware and writes games for them.

[ornate coyote]

CircuitPython 8.0 - Chasing the beam !

[eager matrix]

When is Adafruit going to embrace ML?

[grand tusk]

Cool poster in that, UM.

[ornate coyote]

I'd buy one! for my collection !

[grand tusk]

Which ML?

[last coral]

https://github.com/Wren6991/PicoDVI

[eager matrix]

I could use that for an Art Tech project I am working.

[eager matrix]

There's a feather board made by Blue Wireless called Swan that is supported by Edge Impulse.

[fickle umbra]

Some time brute force is what you need. (Thats part of where my name comes from)

[left pier]

The tool you have is the right tool.
But also true... It is never wrong to buy a new tool.

Maybe some LadyAda Deep Dives in 2022 ?

[last coral]

Fascinating! I’m currently exploring HDMI audio embedding/deembedding on an FPGA. It’s not an easy problem to solve!

[sinful meadow]

who else remembers this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCqrylNY-0

[robust horizon]

lft is amazing and also seems very humble in his videos

[grim ginkgo]

Lol make the cat converge

[fickle umbra]

@rapid hornet OK, I have eliminated microSD issues. We have sadness. Never gets past the rainbow screen. 😦
(And I checked my raspbian install, still boots, so not the p400)

[modern night]

It'd be interesting to get a "sample data on a micro, transfer it to pc, model the data on pc, and push finalized, smaller model to the micro" pipeline outlined. The pipeline itself seems flexible enough to justify some of it. (even if the model is just a linear regression model instead if a deep net)

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet but if you moved to cmake - that IDF issue would go away 😉

Bye @proper trench , thanks for joining the stream!

[proper trench]

yay thanks!

will be doing more hacking over the weekend

[shell mason]

on hacker times

[timid plover]

I have an 8" hardware in my garage 🙂

[inner spade]

Are the Decimal and Fraction modules in consideration for future versions?

[timid plover]

it used to - I didn't see it no working

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet I'm just trolling ! hahahaha

[eager matrix]

There is a speakeasy in Austin called Floppy Disk Repair.

[fickle umbra]

I'm.... gonna have to make a trip up to Austin to see that.

[inner spade]

been using jepler's udecimal -- works nicely

[grim ginkgo]

Decimal from the stdlib? You can have a look at what pypy uses. There's this stdlib implementation in pure python. I think that should work.

[eager matrix]

If you do, HMU. I lived there a couple of years ago and I can point you to some fun things.

[sudden gate]

Thanks @proper trench

[left pier]

I couldn't think of any reason to use CP with a floppy and then I think Phil or LadyAda said for archiving stuff and I was I like oooo and got out a pile of floppies I brought home from my parent's this summer.

[fickle umbra]

I mean, I'm just down the road in SA. so....

[timid plover]

that's what my drive connected to H-89 🙂

thanks for the warning - probably will let out magic smoke here too

[eager matrix]

Ah, I got there a few times and I had a great time. I stayed at an AirBnb that was run by a super cool guy who was in a well know country band and thay had an Elvis Room.

[simple fractal]

i do remember my first 8" flopp OS (UCSD Pascal) Was using a Thinker Toys S100 controller, Had to write the boot sector to the original floppy. was a tense time 🙂

[lyric frost]

My 8-in drives are from a PDP-11 . Haven't tried to power it up in a decade

[fickle umbra]

I mean, if you need a hardware-specific beta tester, you know how to find me......

[eager matrix]

I used a Vax-11 in college. It was my first exposure to Unix. It wasn't long ago that I pitched my BSD 4.3 manual set.

[simple fractal]

yes, i did a lot of toggling of machine code using front panels. even my 2nd job we did that at the mainframe console.

[timid plover]

ucsd pascal on 6502 based development systems over in redmond...

[left pier]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/air-force-finally-retires-8-inch-floppies-from-missile-launch-control-system/

that is from 2019 ...

[simple fractal]

BLE workflow for ESP will be nice.

i am on winter ski hiatus. meaning i ski then sleep then ski again 🙂 so not much coding

[eager matrix]

This week has been more of a sidewards dive. I'm liking it.

[left pier]

I'm going tomorrow....
Was just in Schweitzer for a week during the huge powder dump

[simple fractal]

we had a great winter start. last week has been raining and warm. hopefully better later

[fickle umbra]

Oh dear... bubble memory......

[simple fractal]

staff shortages everywhere.

[fickle umbra]

Scott: it was solid state, but worked kinda like oldschool drum memory... you had to wait for the address you wanted to come back around to the rw section to deal with it

[simple fractal]

i did some work for a local computer store. I remember his tech support consisted of 'Format C:'

[left pier]

Australians can't travel so they can't send their college kids (who are on summer break) to the Great White North to work at the resorts.

[eager matrix]

Did anyone use Forth? I had it on my C-64 and loved it. I ended up using that knowledge professionally because used in the bios for add on boards.

Ooop Sun boards.

[simple fractal]

Forth, there is still someone using it.

[fickle umbra]

The closest to forth I ever touched was MUF, which probably shows my age and interests.

[eager matrix]

I don't think so. One of the first SkyCams was implemented using Forth.

[simple fractal]

James Bowman, ExCamera uses it

[eager matrix]

It's kind of interesting. Circuitpython does a lot of what Forth did. Making it easier than assmebly or C.

[fickle umbra]

F-Ram is same principle as dram but it uses rust instead of a dialetcric, and is non-volatile

[left pier]

Maybe an in the weeds, maybe a deep dive ...

But I'd love to chat about libraries that use network services and how to properly support onboard Network (s2) and peripheral network access (where we seem to pass sockets.. )

There is a design pattern there I don't grok...

[simple fractal]

the I2CDriver board (excamera) uses forth
https://github.com/jamesbowman/i2cdriver/tree/master/firmware

Rusty ram sounds fun.

[eager matrix]

One thing to look for in the next few years is silicon carbide in semiconductiors semiconductors. It has a larger bandgap and because of this it has the potential of being a lot faster.

also gallium nitride

[simple fractal]

yes i thought GaN was the future. but who knows

[eager matrix]

There are already companies making MOSFETs with these materials

[left pier]

Did you open an issue on that ?

[simple fractal]

yes, lots of usb power supplies are GaN now

[eager matrix]

The precessing will be fleshed out in the auto industry and once the new fabs ramp up we'll see things really start to happen. I'm excited because there is the potential for THz processors.

[grim ginkgo]

socket doesn't necessarily need to be a TCP socket. On unix there are local sockets. That don't go through the network stack.

[nova totem]

One of my first co-op jobs years ago was all low level networking. Wifi still confuses me at times

[last coral]

I think it’s the reverse. Sockets are OS level objects and ports are networking stack addresses.

[left pier]

I gotta run, go change a flat tire.
Thanks for the stream!
FYI: the deep dive notes should auto-publish in a couple of hours. I changed it to 1800.

[simple fractal]

i think sockets are bound to ports. so a socket is one endpoint of a communication link.

i have to go outside and find out why my check engine is on.

[sudden gate]

Thanks @rapid hornet for bringing in the weekend …. Enjoy!

[simple fractal]

time to get out the old obd2 tool

[eager matrix]

Thanks much.

[simple fractal]

thanks @rapid hornet and everyone here. Always great

[alpine pike]

had Forth env. on a palm-pilot wayback always appreciated the post-fix mindset. thanks

[eager matrix]

I super loved build/does. It was ahead of its time.

[modern night]

Thanks for all of the streams, they're always a delight! And woo what an exciting year is ahead of you!

[last coral]

I was wrong. Sockets are indeed an abstraction for the connection that, on *NIXes may or may not be bound to a port!

Thanks @rapid hornet

[rapid hornet]

thanks everyone!

[grim ginkgo]

Thank you

[rapid hornet]

🤦 we could have talked about others' #CircuitPython2022

[smoky island]

Getting started with the stream is just a moment. Working on sprite animations for a little kitty today. Follow along on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olEbNoKm4kQ

[grand tusk]

Hello. Audio good on YT. Today I'm driving FeatherSense.

Yeah I'm making a gesture activated dice thrower.

Maybe just flood fill with the blue color?

[grand tusk]

[inner spade]

I prefer clamping to be an option so that sprites can enter and exit.

[grand tusk]

Got the roller going when the proximity sensor detects something. Next challenge: wake word?

Dice Roller https://gist.github.com/rsbohn/d053e2b6804f651615c9f62ae1b9d3af

Monochrome OLED

Yeah two dice.

Oh yeah, new year.

'bespoke' dice bitmap. 😁

[inner spade]

Yes. Nice feel to the animation.

Stops to sit or scratch at wall rather than move?

It’s 140% faster when moving at a 45degree angle, I think

Square root of 2. (square root of sum of sides squared)

[grand tusk]

Maybe keep the kitten within a centered square (x is 80 to 400).

Then the diagonals are the same.

So it bounces at the corner rather than 160 pixels short.

Make the x range equal the y range (320 pixels).

Looks great!

[modern night]

Howdy all! Hope everyone's day is going well

Oh goodness that's an adorable animation

licking paw?

Neat, it's a nice clean little state machine

[inner spade]

Laser pointer mode

With red dot

[grand tusk]

I would add bubbles when you touch the screen.

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[grand tusk]

Thanks it's been fun.

[modern night]

Thanks for the stream!

[smoky island]

You're welcome. Thanks all! 👋 Hope everyone has a great weekend.

[light stump]

@rapid hornet and @smoky island I watched the stream (delayed sorry I missed it live) and dug into the schematics to understand your comments about reading pixels from a display. According to the schematics of the Adafruit boards with SPI displays, the LCD display controller’s MISO pin is disconnected (Clue, PyGamer, PyBadge, MonsterMask, Hallowing, FunHouse). The PyPortal uses parallel and it looks like it has both read and write capability, but I haven’t verified reads yet. However, I did verify that ILI9341 displays generally have capability for reading the displayed pixels if the MISO pin is used (as tested on breadboard with Metro M4 express running Arduino and generic ILI9341 display). Note: I haven’t tested on ST7789 displays.

Perhaps on future display boards, ladyada could add a MISO jumper pad from the display. Not sure how big an concern in production (like finding damaged or poorly seated cables), but it would provide the option for full loop test capability for displays. Also, I’ll take a peek at the pyPortal and see if I can verify pixel reads. If so, I’ll identify what is required to readPixel in CircuitPython.

[sudden slate]

Same

[open girder]

The Desk of Ladyada - 5.25" Floppy Drive hacking! https://youtu.be/opCV_4S56Ow

[nova totem]

I can glance through the C64 reference guide book I have but I don't think it covered the drive

[echo canopy]

Question with the ESP32 Huzzah refresh .. being V2 will it have to have a separate Arduino listing since there is a small amount of changes .. just curious on how that works

Thought of one other question about revisions.. the other show you talked about an ESP32 Itsybitsy introduction…. Will it be able to bring out all of the pins the other ItsyBitsy? I know it will have an antenna to work around and other like the 32u4 version do not

[ionic garnet]

Darn. Missed you live

[cinder wind]

Aw missed the livestream, but that little QTPy Gamer BFF would be great for the little QTPy-based synths I've been making! Love the addition of the nice headphone amp @open girder! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql72YoCJ8-8

[timid plover]

Very happy @open girder is doing this Floppy research, thank you!

[rapid hornet]

I'm not sure the display ribbon cables even have the MISO line.

[light stump]

Hmmm. I looked at several of the Adafruit breakout boards products and it looks like they’re labeled with MISO (sometimes labeled SDO) as broken out, but perhaps not all products? My generic one worked, but may not be on every one. This part has MISO “SDO” connected but not level shifted. Might be an issue if you’re using a 5V logic board, but from the schematic I assume a 3.3V logic board would work fine https://www.adafruit.com/product/1770 I may have one of these around to check.

[light stump]

Ok reporting back, I have the 2.8” capacitive touch ILI9341 breakout https://www.adafruit.com/product/2090 and confirmed MISO (SDO) can be read running at 3.3V with SPI.

Looking at the CircuitPython code, the displayio core will need a “readPixel” and/or “readRect” function for SPI displays. Also, I see that ParallelBus doesn’t have any read capability, so that will be necessary for any parallel connected displays (Note: I haven’t verified read capability yet on a parallel display).

[rapid hornet]

@light stump oops! Sorry I misled you. I was wrong

[grand tusk]

Green can be cool and friendly-like.

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[glass stag]

Howdy all

[inner spade]

👋

[viscid bolt]

Is it just me going deaf, or is JP on mute?

[drowsy inlet]

sound good here

[viscid bolt]

Hmm. Thanks

[inner spade]

YouTube sounds okay.

[viscid bolt]

I finally figured out what went wrong. Thanks.

[open surge]

I have enough projects going on, but I love my macropad and would love to build a keyboard some day.

[glass stag]

Oooo, twice the keys for half the price

[desert talon]

Going to replace the sparkfun pro micro with the kee boar in my macropad

[haughty quiver]

ooh that's a great looking board!

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver!

[glass stag]

Have a good day.

[slow spire]

@desert talon that looks pretty; I need to build one of those with a big rotary encoder knob

[desert talon]

Going to print a better knob soon

And a case

Will put the files on GitHub sometime soon as well

[slow spire]

Sweet

[ionic garnet]

missed JP live again! This work thing is beginning a real hassle!

[haughty quiver]

Something must be done!

[desert talon]

Those key caps on @haughty quiver s board. Whoa!

Is there a source?

[ionic garnet]

watching it now. Ordered a couple proactively!

[haughty quiver]

Right? Gorgeous caps called Teletype by Devlin. Made for Planck, so no numbers sadly

[ionic garnet]

Keeboar is adorbs

[desert talon]

https://tenor.com/view/magnifique-gif-10531692

[ionic garnet]

Good video @haughty quiver . I bought two. I am not really into macro keyboards but wth it's a purple RP040 from Adafruit. What's not to love?

[idle spindle]

THANK YOU JOHN!!! this week was the best PPTW i have seen. the Gnapkin and Gerken were my first keyboards. i just got the KB2040 to today. you guys are great. @haughty quiver @proper trench the KB2040 would have came in handy for this guy. ill send pics of the next one i build with The KB2040 have a great day.

[haughty quiver]

Right on @idle spindle please do send keeb pics!

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 353 LIVE Tusken Staff, TFT Feather and Floaty Ghost in 20 mins! https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live @hard hollow @rocky reef #3DPrinting

[lavish patrol]

👋

Greeting all.

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️

[rocky reef]

good morning, afternoon, evening and night folks!

[open surge]

morning!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

Somebodys been watching The Book of Boba Fet

Noel, sounds like youre in back of room

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[lavish patrol]

The usual suspects. 😄

[wise iris]

good morning

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[lavish patrol]

Woa! Serious coffee cup, @rocky reef ☕

Coffee cauldron.

[upbeat coral]

Better

[lavish patrol]

Butter is better.

😄

[rocky reef]

Learn Guide
https://learn.adafruit.com/tusken-chief-staff/

[lavish patrol]

I like the new mic. We can hear the lawnmower clearly. 😉

[rocky reef]

CAD files on Prusa Printers
https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/120649-tusken-chief-staff

[hybrid turtle]

I'm new, I'm a novice, are we allowed to ask long winded open ended questions?

[upbeat coral]

@hybrid turtle - Go for it.

Don't be surprised by more than 1 answer, don't be disappointed by no answer.

[hybrid turtle]

I have a small kids toy I'm making; 2 in. polyhedra with diametric rod magnets on the edges for them to connect (still troubleshooting that part) I'd like to put a few wireless LEDs in them so they light up when placed on/near a base. I'm in the market for setting up a 'shop' of sorts to start making this and, honestly, I'm so new to this, I think I might overpurchase and I'm not that rich lol.

correction, not rich at all, also out of work but tmi, maybe.

[upbeat coral]

@hybrid turtle 3d Printing parts?

[rocky reef]

Edit Design files on: https://a360.co/3ru2w4w

[hybrid turtle]

yes

[upbeat coral]

@hybrid turtle - MY first SHOP was a closet door I took off and placed across two end tables.

Screwed the hinges into the wall so I could fold it up for storage and make room.

[open surge]

Fusion360 let's you have a free account with 10 active projects I believe

[hybrid turtle]

so, I need an Oscilloscope? I think? some form of bread board, if I wanted to form my own wireless pad and 3d print a base structure to house it in, say, 15 in. wide. What type of coil would I need?

copper I think? is common?

[upbeat coral]

Tinkercad is easy to use and you can do more with some experience than you might believe.

[open surge]

Fusion360 is free for personal, hobby use, with a few less features: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal (no edu email required)

[upbeat coral]

I use FreeCad. Hackspace has an ongoing tutorial about using.

[open surge]

I wish FreeCad had better color management, being colorblind it's difficult to use

I've been trying Onshape, which lets you use all the features free if you keep your projects public

[haughty quiver]

Are you allowed to bring that to Disneyworld right now to make people wonder where you got it?

is the color changed based on a distance?

[lavish patrol]

@haughty quiver Direction.

[haughty quiver]

wild.

[upbeat coral]

Smaller lizard?

[lavish patrol]

I guess there's nothing to stop the filament turning around in the nozzle. 🤔

[haughty quiver]

can you show a piece of the filament?

thanks!

got it

[upbeat coral]

I used to work in Polymer film making. Layers are not easy, even for the big companies.

[haughty quiver]

next up: four filaments combined!

[lavish patrol]

Use All the Filaments!

Hydrodipping FTW 👍

[upbeat coral]

Finally broke out my TFT Feather. Tested some batteries. Awesome even if that's all I do with it.

Ok I'm convinced, where can I get some HD film?

Same stuff on Adafruit site?

Durability?

[rocky reef]

yes in stock https://www.adafruit.com/product/3539

[lavish patrol]

Cool effect.

[haughty quiver]

have you ever tried hydrodipping human body parts for temporary tattoos?

[upbeat coral]

Was wondering if I should clear cote it

[haughty quiver]

hahah

[upbeat coral]

We used to put Testers Paint in water to dip our model parts

Excellent demonstration of the Center of Gravity

That Iron stand/ insert heater, was my first 3d printed oarts project and where I learned to use Tinkercad to change dimensions of your parts.

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef , @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[upbeat coral]

Not bad for a retired old fellar

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @hard hollow and @rocky reef 👍

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

See yens t'nite

[hard hollow]

yay thanks folks cya tonight

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[haughty quiver]

@upbeat coral I spent a little time in Pittsburgh where they say "yens"...

or "yinz" actually

[upbeat coral]

@haughty quiver I spent a few days NEAR Pittsburgh. Not where I first used Yens though. Grew up in Louisville Ky.

[haughty quiver]

haha right on

[dim knot]

Hello, World!

[split gazelle]

good evening folks

[inner spade]

Hello show-ers and tell-ers!

[nova totem]

Hello everyone

[tulip canyon]

Howdy all

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[haughty quiver]

hiya!

[turbid hill]

Yo

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/avinhdk8b4

[upbeat coral]

Ordered the stuff to delve into hydr-dipping.

[open girder]

SHOW and TELL 1/19/2022 https://youtu.be/nl3OuOfsyEI

[turbid hill]

All I can say is today is a good day, my CEO went around handing out champagne to celebrate new release of our product and new round of financing that completed today.

[rapid hornet]

hi all!

[upbeat coral]

Talk about what?

[open surge]

hi!

[haughty quiver]

@upbeat coral not Hydra dipping, right?

[upbeat coral]

Nope, not even @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

whew

[upbeat coral]

Although....

[robust horizon]

https://twitter.com/stringlapse/status/981941695481765888 hmm I don't know what a digi-keyer is but apparently adafruit does 🙂

Ryder Sadlovsky (@stringlapse)

The original digi-keyer as seen in Adabox 007 #makewithdigikey

Twitter · Apr 5, 2018, 5:08 PM

https://twitter.com/pdp7/status/728449599627665408

Drew Fustini 🐧 (@pdp7)

The Digi-Keyer! The original from @digikey on @Adafruit's #AskAnEngineer show! https://t.co/lWSugXhq7y

Twitter · May 6, 2016, 5:01 AM

[upbeat coral]

Love my DigiKey puzzle. Provides me withs hours of concentrated fun.

[split gazelle]

it's exciting @robust horizon

[robust horizon]

https://gist.github.com/3c88285c3ef3ae2703429f912a31109c here's the sketch for it! thanks @split gazelle

[split gazelle]

@haughty quiver ahhh so cool!

[robust horizon]

and here's the little stand I made for it, heavily inspired by stuff N&P have done -- I'm at the wrong computer to post the original design file (freecad)

[tulip canyon]

"time is running out"

[nova totem]

@haughty quiver did you just rewrite all the gameboy music at once? Really neat

[smoky island]

Amazing! @haughty quiver Love the integrations with Game Boy.

[haughty quiver]

thanks @smoky island it just dawned on me today that it's the perfect way to demo MIDI on the Arcade Synth Controller 😉

[split gazelle]

that's great @sage aspen

[open surge]

@haughty quiver I may have missed it, but is the synth arcade controller running CircuitPython? I know a lot of Tod's are Arduino

[haughty quiver]

@open surge I'm running Arduino on a Feather M4 in this

[open surge]

Gotcha, thanks

[haughty quiver]

one reason is that it has the Audio Library running on it which is a pretty fully featured synthesizer.

You could probably do this in CircuitPython if you just wanted the MIDI out features and not the on-board synth

[split gazelle]

cat!

[sage aspen]

Thanks!

[glad granite]

Love the idea. Is there any way I can learn how to do that? @sage aspen

[haughty quiver]

that's great @smoky island !

[sage aspen]

There's not guide at the moment, but there should be enough info in this twitter thread I made: https://twitter.com/makermelissa/status/1482596378282913793

Melissa LeBlanc-Williams (@makermelissa)

I found some awesome firmware called Bluepad32 by @ricardoquesada that runs on the @adafruit Airlift that allows me to use a PS4 controller over Bluetooth with @CircuitPython. This was exactly what I was looking for. https://t.co/UInfVcJZQg

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jan 16, 2022, 6:11 AM

[robust horizon]

"oneko" package is still available in Debian, I just installed it for nostalgia

[glad granite]

Thanks! I will check it~ @sage aspen

[haughty quiver]

we had some little extension running on SGI Irix machines that was a pair of eyeballs watching your cursor. Why I do not know.

👀

[turbid hill]

xeyes the x windows app

[haughty quiver]

that's it!

[turbid hill]

classic unix program

[split gazelle]

great projects everyone!

[haughty quiver]

wouldn't surprise me if SGI folks rewrote it as a scaleable vector version like their desktop 🙂

[smoky island]

Thanks for mentioning this. I hadn't found the debian one. I've got it loaded up now following my mouse

[nova totem]

Thanks everyone. Always great to see all the projects. I feel like I'm in a slump of getting anything done so its so nice to see what others are doing.

[turbid hill]

oh the wait, 5mins oh the pain of it

So the Tonga volcano that went boom was worth about 10 megatons

was heard in alaska

[robust horizon]

love the projects! 👋

[rapid hornet]

@haughty quiver I've never gotten the cartridge stable. I've been meaning to respin it with an rp2040

[sudden slate]

Yo yo yo, what's up chat

Ask an Engineer time

[turbid hill]

ceiling possiblt something else called the sky

[sudden slate]

Gosh

[turbid hill]

1:23 till a reputable engineer will make our shopping carts bulge with goodies

[sudden slate]

💯

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 1/19/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/uWlj6RQrQCY

[sudden slate]

🍊🍓🍍

[turbid hill]

wow dumb YouTube lowered the vid quality to low

[sudden slate]

I'm watching at 480p

Kinda low

[upbeat coral]

Twitch for me

[turbid hill]

yeah changed to 1080

[sudden slate]

Excited for AdaBox

[turbid hill]

ooh yeah

[sudden slate]

Whaddaya think it'll be?

[open surge]

as NYC goes, so goes the nation, glad to see it coming down

[sudden slate]

At least there's light ahead

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[sudden slate]

https://tenor.com/view/free-dave-chappelle-celebrate-finally-freedom-gif-4581850

Do y'all have a soundcloud or something for the PPOW music???

[vagrant flax]

circuit python parsnip!

[daring elbow]

Hey, y'all 👋

[sudden slate]

lol

[hasty frigate]

Ask an engineer question: For the esp32-S2 feathers, can I plug any solar panel into the USB for charging an attached LiPo battery? Is it smart enough to handle over/under voltage?\

[dim knot]

http://adabox.com/

[vagrant flax]

[sudden slate]

I thought the EyeLights were lit

[upbeat coral]

What time on 15th

[vagrant flax]

Always best to have your freakout cycles non-synchronized

[inner spade]

I'm digging the dog-eared Mouser print catalog.

[robust horizon]

and they didn't redact out the mouser catalog 🙂

I had a few of the print mouser catalogs back in the day

[digital crescent]

why so many shot cups?

[nova totem]

I have an old retro hand held game at my mom's I need to find and see if it works (or if not can I fix it)

[sudden slate]

You need a drink after your freakout sessions

[tulip canyon]

Found my first order - October 1, 2011

[turbid hill]

Oh I completely forgot I got my Apple ! replica working, I had a mcp23017 when I needed a mcp23s17 instead, once corrected all works perfectly.

[sudden slate]

OGs in the chat

[tulip canyon]

brrr rabbit

[turbid hill]

anyone have the 2.88 meg floppy drive

[upbeat coral]

3/17/2016, not as long ago as I thought

[sudden slate]

3/14/2020, not very long ago at all

I'm new

hehe

[slow spire]

Hi all!

[sudden slate]

👋

[sinful meadow]

is she talking about teenyusb or tinyusb?

[slow spire]

C64!

[slow spire]

I think TinyUSB.

[sinful meadow]

thats what i think too, teenyusb is some lesser known lib with a chinese readme

[light stump]

@robust horizon for your CP demo videos we need to build you a talking box with a button to trigger a virtual-PT voice that says “hey jepler, what is this?”

[slow spire]

Pretty sure that’s a Ladyada-ism for TinyUSB.

[sudden slate]

💯

[sudden slate]

hehe

[slow spire]

Amazing

[sudden slate]

Ladyada singing cracks me up

[delicate fractal]

if the software is in place, would an IBM-compatible 5.25 floppy drive be able to read&write commodore floppies?

[ivory kiln]

Lol, now all Limor needs to do is find a 8 inch disk drive to complete the set.

[ionic garnet]

Hi peeps

[vagrant flax]

tele-what-now

[delicate fractal]

7inch? I thought they were 8...

[turbid hill]

Linux mtools is a set of tools in linux to access dos stuff, works with floppys of all sizes

[slow spire]

Catalog mailings!

[tulip canyon]

"Can you repeat that part number please"

[sudden slate]

That voiceover hits different

[dim knot]

https://jobs.adafruit.com/

[turbid hill]

feels so 1970's

[ivory kiln]

Spot on, nice. 🙂

[open surge]

oh my, thanks for the shoutout

[delicate fractal]

Darn. I was hoping there was a weird new&old floppy type I didn't know about!! 😄

[open surge]

that is one reason I'm using an "independent podcast".

[turbid hill]

Adrian's basement show has some episodes where he rebuilds a trs80 with 8' drives

[open girder]

oh wow! hi @open surge !!

thanks for doing the podcast!

[open surge]

if anyone wants to be on the podcast and has an interesting project or something to talk about, I'm looking for guests for season 2 and beyond. 🙂

[slow spire]

Friendly Fork needs a cartoony avatar

[hot frigate]

@open girder Question: My work respun a board to accommodate a BGA chip vs QFP chip due to the chip shortage. But, our normal board supplier cannot make the board anymore because of the BGA. Is this common? Can you briefly explain why and perhaps touch on the different levels of sophistication/quality of board houses?

[open girder]

(pt here)

[sudden slate]

Yo...

Listened to your podcasts

[open surge]

I haven't released an episode yet. Coming soon!

[tulip canyon]

Excited to asyncio everything

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[tulip canyon]

Just started using circup too. Really neat

[turbid hill]

yeah love the tool circup

[shut crown]

circup is awesome

[upbeat coral]

https://shop.deviceside.com/prod/FC5025 Would this qualify for USB to 5.25 in floppy?

[ivory kiln]

Nope, I'm clueless on tech that old. I was just going from what I remember from a Prince song, '"Hey Duckie...let me stick the seven inch in the computer..." From BATDANCE'

Love that song!

You ever dance with the devil in the pale moon light? 😉

[ionic garnet]

Yay for ESP32-S2 TFT learn guide!!!

[turbid hill]

Tip: if circup complains it cannot get the bundle update your boards circuit python uf2

thats a lot of pcb's

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: magnetic http://www.adafruit.com

[turbid hill]

wow a fisheye view

[sudden slate]

Did the audio die for like 10 seconds for any of y'all?

Yasssss

[turbid hill]

no audio in factory

[sudden slate]

Oy, you're right

[ivory kiln]

Would have been cool if Adafruit could have bought the air rights & kept that great view.

[sudden slate]

I was writing an Instructable and was just listening

[turbid hill]

lol a tunnel right through the Disney building to insure a view

[dim knot]

Hot Air Helper Rework Station Plate with Two Ring Clamps https://www.adafruit.com/product/5286

[ivory kiln]

Nice - Go Phil!

[fair scroll]

Its also a cup holder for those that like to live dangerously.

[upbeat coral]

Robot docking station

[dim knot]

DIY Magnetic Connector - Right Angle Three Contact Pins https://www.adafruit.com/product/5360

DIY Magnetic Connector - Right Angle Four Contact Pins https://www.adafruit.com/product/5358

DIY Magnetic Connector - Right Angle Five Contact Pins https://www.adafruit.com/product/5359

[nova totem]

I'm not sure what to use those magnetic connectors in but I just want to use them in something

[tulip canyon]

zomg diy magsafe - awesome

[glad granite]

😀 Is this the reason why the code is "magnetic" tonight?

[sudden slate]

Hmmm

[ivory kiln]

Q: Sweet! What kind of current can these handle?
The magnetic connectors

[tulip canyon]

Power limit?

[dim knot]

Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/I2C Backpack - White - STEMMA QT / qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/1002

Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/ I2C Backpack - Blue - STEMMA QT / qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/881

Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/ I2C Backpack - Green - STEMMA QT / qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/880

Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/I2C Backpack - Yellow https://www.adafruit.com/product/879

Adafruit 0.56" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display with I2C Backpack - Red - STEMMA QT / qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/878

[vagrant flax]

Yay I've been waiting for these for awhile 😄

[noble grove]

QUESTION: When will there be a NeoKey 5x6 Ortho Snap-Apart for CHOC switches?

[tender arrow]

QUESTION: Would the featherwing for floppy drives work with internal floppies, eg. an internal floppy on a Powerbook 145? Not sure level of work - if we used a breakout board etc. As well

[fair scroll]

After an awesome great search about pcb wire terminals I fell in love with some colored wire terminals on digikeys. Do you think I can use those in a design or will this make the ansi/iso people mad??

[echo canopy]

Question.. I asked this on the site but wanted to add a thought….you are revising ESP32 boards …. Any plans to add a stemma port on any of them .. it could make a WhipperSnapper easy to add a PIR sensor

I’d preferably like the pin to be “ interrupt capable” for deep sleep wake up projects

I know it’s easy to solder but you know .. easy like qwiic ………

[hasty frigate]

Ask an engineer question: For the esp32-S2 feathers, can I plug any solar panel into the USB for charging an attached LiPo battery? Is it smart enough to handle over/under voltage?

[turbid hill]

They answered that question

[nova totem]

Something like this: https://www.adafruit.com/product/4755

[delicate fractal]

if the software is in place, would an IBM-compatible 5.25 floppy drive be able to read&write commodore floppies?

[noble grove]

Question: Do the mag connectors come with pogo pads on both sides?

[fair scroll]

I am very satisfied with this answer 😆, great to see you testing the pink connectors btw

[slow spire]

Likely one side is pogos, and the other is static; this is how pogos generally are made

[hard venture]

​Do you have suggestion for dealing with noise on I2C? I have strong 1k pull-ups but still having communication errors eventually after minutes of connection

[turbid hill]

@open girder talk to the guy who does adrian basement channel, he know commodore off by heart

[slow spire]

How long are your I2C wires?

[upbeat coral]

The 8 Bit Guy used to be C64 tech rep

[sudden slate]

Gotta go, bye!!

[turbid hill]

he rebuilds them and knows the electronics really well

[noble grove]

@slow spire I meant is such a thing available. I want it as a hermaphrodite serial connection. Almost flat spring loaded pads on both sides. Guess it's another pipe dream.

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[open surge]

thanks again @open girder for the shout out

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌖

[delicate fractal]

hmm... I wonder if we can get data off zip drives too, while we're at it.

[tulip canyon]

Thank you Adafruit. Bye all!

[ionic garnet]

Thanks for another great episode @open girder

[split gazelle]

Thanks for a great evening of shows!

[nova totem]

Thanks and have a great night everyone

[vagrant flax]

Thanks and goodnight ❤️

[slow spire]

@noble grove Interesting; I’d surf around at https://www.mill-max.com. If anyone has made such a thing, they likely have!

[noble grove]

@slow spire Ground in the middle, transmit on the right, receive on the left.

@slow spire Thanks.

[turbid hill]

night

[hard venture]

it is not very long, maybe 3 inches total distance from mcu to led driver IC. the MCU is on a PCB and the led drive is on a daughter board that is connect through some header pins

it's been driving me nuts because the failure is sooooo inconsistent and usually takes around 10+ minutes before the driver freezes

[slow spire]

Hmmm. That’s nicely short.

[hard venture]

it fails when connecte like this, but if don't use the header connector and instead use wires, it seems to be robust

[slow spire]

I’ve don’t I2C over a 1m/1 yard wire without issue. Maybe a noisy power supply (try battery), iffy wires or soldering, or power dips due to LEDs?

[slow spire]

I’d reflow that pin from top

[hard venture]

thanks for the suggestions. I will look into the power stability. the SDA and SCL lines are right next to eachother, should I avoid that?

[slow spire]

My SDA/SCL are often right next to each other.

Try posting this with your clear photos in the Forums. That will get longer attention.

Would love to see schematics and code, too, @hard venture

[hard venture]

ya will do

while we're here I can't resist sharing a video of what it looks like when it is working how I want it to😃

[slow spire]

Yes please!

[hard venture]

it does live conversion between units

the input is blinking. you can drag the input to the top or bottom and the opposite display will show the live conversion

in->mm or ft->m to miles->km etc.

[slow spire]

Very cool!

[hard venture]

thanks!

[slow spire]

Clicky switches and keys!

Tried it on USB battery?

[hard venture]

I have tried it using usb power brick , usb from computer, and just powered from the onboard LiPo . oddly enough, it seems to fail faster when connected through USB

[slow spire]

Hmmm

But it fails on battery, too?

[hard venture]

yes, takes longer to fail though

I've tried adding delay between i2c reads/writes and that didn't seem to help

I'm going the minimum speed for the LED driver which is 100KHz

[slow spire]

Might be interesting to just run an animation of a digit for a while, with no key presses. If that works, might be an iffy solder joint that is noisy when pressing buttons.

[hard venture]

That's what I've been doing to test it. I just have it count upwards and I leave it alone. I come back 10s of minutes later and see how large of a number it got to

[slow spire]

Is this a kit? If so, can you point to a link to the product?

[hard venture]

I capture the i2c failure with a logic analyzer once and I think the LED driver fails to send an ACK and then the MCU freaks out and stops sending the clock signal.

[hard venture]

not a kit, my design

[slow spire]

Awesome!

Which LED driver chip?

[hard venture]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/ams/AS1115-BSST/2333545

it's pretty sweet other than the failures haha. it's affordable and includes a keyscan so it can both drive LEDs and report button presses

I almost gave up and redesigned the board to use MAX7219 which i have used before and was very reliable....but I'm just sooo close so I'm trying to push through

and it took so long to route, I have sunk too much effort into it to give up now haha

[slow spire]

Searching the web for AS1115 I2C problems to see if others have had this issue

Interesting related discussion:
https://www.microchip.com/forums/m913070.aspx

[hard venture]

@slow spire thanks for the help! I'm determined to figure it out eventually and will keep you updated 🙂

[inner spade]

It's almost workshop time in the 'hood!

[lavish patrol]

Greetings, all.

[dry marten]

Greetings, all.

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[lavish patrol]

Bleeps and Bloops!

[haughty quiver]

Plink Ploop

[open surge]

didn't expect that to be so big, oops

[lavish patrol]

Lol

It's less frightening than Lars...

[drowsy inlet]

cool shirt!

[cinder wind]

JP used to be a Disney character

[clear matrix]

Once a Disney character, always a Disney character..