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ah that's the Clue
I believe the screen makes typing lag sometimes
yeah, it makes it loose characters on the serial if you will
at least the REPL
RIP copy/paste
happens to me often, unless you release_displays() I think
(on the clue)
it's I2C and not SPI ?
I should probably have filed an issue
Second line is 'adafuit' (no 'r')
I just tried doing that on my Pico and crashed it to safe mode, lol
copy/paste
but I was dumb and tried with 400+ lines of code
It did seem to be trying to type it out, rather than just all at once
I have an issue I need to file where sending a bunch of characters while the code is running disables ctrl-C (as if like a buffer fills up and the ctrl-C can't even fit in to be seen)
I discovered that because in Mu (at least latest) when you click in the REPL pane it sends a big chunk of "move cursor right" or "move cursor left", which then triggers the bug
I gotta head out -- have fun!
I presume the cat decided to attack something, lol
ttyl!
Catto, destroyer of things... really, bbl XD
have you used gh ?
the github command line
I use it to create PRs with the --web option
it creates the branch on my github clone of the repo (creating it if necessary) and opens a web page to create the PR
Thanks all, hope everyone has a great weekend!
Hello everyone can anyone please tell me how to create text strings like if we tap on some button then something else will pop up for the tft lm9341 by visuino .
This guide should get you going: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-2-8-and-3-2-color-tft-touchscreen-breakout-v2
Desk of Ladyada - EYE SPI some Mechanical Keeb PCBs! https://youtu.be/kmODNWUvNe0
We did a bunch of lil things this week, let's check them out: We designed a Kee Boar with the RP2040, based on the Pro Micro pinout but with some cute extras. Our snap-apart ortho keeb breakout PCBs arrived, as did our RP2040 macro-pad PCBs. We also tested our Zippy click-wheel breakout and are looking for a replacement chip for seesaw (that we ...
Wait, gotta pay MORE for displays AND they take pixels away? Tsk tsk tsk
No freeze here
eye spi, interesting
Oooh, new connector to use? 👃 I think I smell a great search!
do it
Thank you!
I recently got into mechanical keyboard stuff myself
oh! we just put more of these in stock! http://adafruit.com/qtpyrp2040
What a cutie pie! Or is it... a QT Py? This diminutive dev board comes with one of our new favorite chip, the RP2040. It's been made famous in the new Raspberry Pi Pico and our ...
Hi all.
hi!
A lot of folks like using Adafruit parts for their Keeb builds - but with the itsybitsy not being pin-compatible with the pro micro pinout, it really wasnt very easy without some sort of adapter plate. now we're seeing lots of people use circuitpython for keebs, which is awesome! why not try our hands at spinning up a pro-micro-compatible RP2040...
that board is so cool
I saw a board for the CM4, and one of the big things mentioned on the video, is that it has a stemma qt connector ❤️
bionic colourblindness
+1 on being cool to the color-blinded.
That usb port is a weird use of pcb...
Can I have some seeds for the
tree?
we search 
I have a muses op amp that it's ~$10... (but that's before the shortage...)
What is slew?
thanks
great stream
great show, thanks.
thanks!
Matrix Portal M4, Feather M4 CAN Express, and HalloWing M4 Express
Thanks for the list. I don’t have those boards in hand so I won’t be able to test it myself. I’ll build the UF2 files tomorrow and send you a note when they are ready for you.
I built UF2 files for the three boards you requested. Note that the Matrix Portal has five pins setup for measurements, the other two boards have about 10. Let me know if you have success building sigrok/PulseView and if these UF2 files work for you.
working on building sigrok ( from your https://github.com/kmatch98/libsigrok.git )
Read-only mirror of the official repo at git://sigrok.org/libsigrok. Pull requests welcome. Please file bugreports at sigrok.org/bugzilla. - kmatch98/libsigrok
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There we go :D
Ah, misremembered, thanks.
No problem ^_^
IS THERE ANYONE GOOD ENOUGH IN VISUINO OR PROTEUS FLOW CHARTS BECAUSE I AM REALLY BAD IN PROGRAMMING AND I I NEED TO DESIGN MULTIOLE PAGES FOR KM 9341 TFT DISPLAY
sigrok-cli built
pi@raspberrypi4:~/git/sigrok-cli $ ./sigrok-cli -V 2>&1 | grep -i tiny
sr: backend: drivers->name: tiny-logic-friend-la
sr: backend: drivers->longname: **
**
sigrok-cli 0.8.0-git-db12d77
Libraries and features:
- libsigrok 0.6.0-git-cbf8a3f0/4:0:0 (rt: 0.6.0-git-cbf8a3f0/4:0:0).
- Libs:
- glib 2.58.3 (rt: 2.58.3/5803:3)
- libzip 1.5.1
- libserialport 0.1.1/1:0:1 (rt: 0.1.1/1:0:1)
- libusb-1.0 1.0.22.11312 API 0x01000106
- bluez 5.50
- libftdi 1.4
- librevisa 0.0.20130812
- Host: armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf, little-endian.
- SCPI backends: TCP, RPC, serial, VISA, USBTMC.
sr_ctx2
Next step - program and test with prebuilt UF2 files
What's the build system?
I usually find . | egrep "uf2|UF2"
The deeper in the directory structure, the sooner that resolves/completes.
Arduino IDE puts stuff in /tmp iirc.
The UF2 files are here. Put your board into bootloader mode and the BoardNameBOOT drive should show up. Copy the TinyLogicFriend UF2 file that matches your board. It should reboot the board automatically. Then you can start sigrok-cli. I usually run this so that sigrok will scan for the board and show what capabilities it found:
sigrok-cli -d tiny-logic-friend-la -l 5 --show --scan
The -l 5 is for logging level file, so it will show all the debug messages. Set it to a lower value to reduce the amount of messages that it spews. Here's some more info on the sigrok-cli command line options: https://sigrok.org/wiki/Sigrok-cli
excited for the product pick!
I'm waiting on mine. They're with the delivery courier.
i keep on accidentally adding the wrong postcode which make my orders undeliverable
That'll do it
but I'm buying a few things when JP's product pick goes live, i figured out this week's product early and i have everything else i want to buy there
What time does start? 4?
12 minutes
That's the way to do it. Have a cart ready.
I might be able to watch live XD
it's my off week so I'm not able to buy as much as i usually do
ah...
i get paid every other week
fun
There are apparently 2 people waiting for the Show and Tell stream
Isn't that tomorrow? XD
lol
XD
I'm early on the product page for today!
Good afternoon all you wonderful people.
I see there's a discount during the show, is that STRICTLY while live?
(apparently it starts a bit before, as I've been seeing it for the past 15 minutes)
a fun way to start my 6am
rushing to buy a product from an online store
Fun way to end the work day XD
47 in stock right now
Work done! Stream start!
Disco on YT!
It's all good. Algood?
yee, they were out of stock beforehand probably to stop people buying them
mic audio in sync and occasionally peaking at -6dB
Woot!
in the past I've gotten like, 10 of the product picks
Jeeze, two orders over the weekend, and this nearly went in my cart both times.....
Why do I do this to myself?
but i held off, i can't afford it this week
@honest smeltBecause we love it!LOL
If it's in my cart, is it MINE?
I was gonna try and make my own setup for my encoder but I'm probably going to use this
Crap, no, I missed it
sad.wav
I'm glad it wasn't like 50% on a $100 thing I missed XD
if I had gotten more than one i would send you one but alas
Oh well... I'll keep an eye for moar
Are the neopixels separate?
Doesn't look like it
I want to use this but I don't want the neopixel
Just the rotary
I mean, can I turn it off
I'll take your NeoPixel :P
I only need to tell what direction I'm turning
You could have it so it's normally right, and if you turn left it gets red right it gets blue
?
Like, if it's not moving light is white, turn left gets one color and turn right gets a different color, let go and it goes white again
Yes you can turn the NeoPixel off.
It's controlled via I2C, but if you don't do anything with it, it doesn't turn on.
yay
Say seesaw 10x fast, lol...
https://www.adafruit.com/product/802 uses seesaw for the buttons.
This lovely little shield is the best way to add a small, colorful and bright display to any project. We took our popular 1.8" TFT breakout board and remixed it into an Arduino shield ...
huh!
Seesaw sees some action!
that is great
Seesaw sounds incredibly cool and like ALL the gadgets should have it
I missed out DX
ran out like 10 minutes ago
$5.95 still sounds like a steal
Thanks JP
Thanks!
cya jp
Bai!
thanks much for watching!
Thank you! Looking forward to the Adabox video.... with costume? 🙂
always love watching
Note to self: have cart prepared in advance
I hadn't gotten to the free shipping threshold yet anyway >~>
I wasn't signed in, so I had to sign in first, and by the time I hit checkout they were gone
oof
yeah
sorry to hear that
I didn't think about the fact I'd need to like, ADD CHECKOUT BOOM
Oh well
I have plenty of random parts I haven't used already XD
And like I said... $3 isn't a huge deal
fair
Now what else to put in the cart... XD
I put the new trinkeys and some translucent keycaps
because i wanted the trinkeys and i need keycaps
Lol. I have keyboards...
i have one of those too
I have several XD but keys are all soldered
Mine is socketed, but like, I have a whole bunch if extra keys
Sockets good
@haughty quiver 
I am hopping on https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch for a little bit tonight to work on the PyPortal screen design / management server some more if anyone is interested in hanging out or following along.
3DHangouts Episode 327 LIVE in 10mins! FunHouse, NeoTrinkey and Gearbox #3DPrinting
https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live
This week we're checking out the FunHouse and printing a yellow brick road themed stand. Prototyping more updates to the NeoTrinkey case and Print-In-Place G...
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ooh neotrinkey print!
RIP me in work
morning... making coffee #2 . Is it ok to solder to the cap-touch pads on the neotrinkey?
Good morning all you wonderful people 🙂
good morning / afternoon / evening and night folks!
Your coffee says g'morning!
Hallo coffee, I love you
@shadow epoch I'm here for you!
BRC THE smoothest coffee.
Good morning.
good 1am y'all
I want to bring the touch pads on the neotrinkey into bigger pads...
Hi friends.
xenia
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Morning all!
hey jp
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Park the john we have in chat all celebrate from awesome pick of the week
Good day good people.
I wouldn't think so. Looking at mine, it's quite thin material. What about copper tape or some other conductive material?
I've gotta print one of those ASAP
I probably should just stick with Z, people don't get that too wrong
Every funhouse needs a solid foundation. You can 3D print your own!
Missed opportunity to make the funhouse stand a house of mirrors!
Is the clover on the door on the front of the funhouse a touch pad or something?
would be interesting to make funhouse what have also sidepanels and roof
to PaintYourDragon's incredible silkscreen jobs
roof could have solarpanel
Adafruit FunHouse
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4985
@autumn turret no, it's a little cluster of vias
Ah, ok. Looks neat either way, and plays nicely in the silk
Thanks for the info JP
USB C is always good
Just caught that the stand is a yellow brick road stand
that look like golden stand
Layer by Layer CAD Tutorials Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOVsMp6nKnpjsXSQ45nxfORb
golden brick stand you have there could be brass metal as well
Nicely done, that's a cool technique!
I guess you could say it paves the way for better projects...
Has your Adabox shipped yet? Mine is still "Preparing for Shipment"
It's a bricks and mortar project.
Another funhouse in the wall.
Follow the yellow brick road.
You know what they say about bricks... the mortar merrier
Just watch out for mortar fire...
3D Parts Library on GitHub
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts
@lilac salmon Mine finally shipped yesterday, but I read on the Adafruit Website that it would ship a week after processing 🙂
That's unusual - someone's mowing. 😄
Which prompts the question -- how's the kitchen coming along?
Who's kitchen? 🤔
Thanks. Good to know they are working on shipping and I didn't get missed. I have a box from Digi-Key on my porch to keep me busy in the mean time. 😉
Oh, that is cool. The Pyportal for example, doesn't do that.
Nice addition of the graphics!
A baby in a getaway car peeling out of the driveway "seeya suckers!"
I love the lights+screen+sound.
@haughty quiver Reminds me of the baby from Who Framed Roger Rabbit....
Funhouse Door Alert with Email Notification https://learn.adafruit.com/funhouse-door-alert-email-notification
Might put one on my lanyard for PAX in October

@haughty quiver Did you want to pause?
Trinkey all the things!
I saw they were released yesterday, I picked them up with my JPPP
Neat planetary gears.
whoa. I always wondered about the durability of 3d-printed gears. Like how long would they last compared to say plastic?
Trinkey for all
Powdered graphite lubricant was the bee's knees with pinewood derby cars. I don't know how'd it would work on PLA.
hello folks
Hi, Liz.
Top of the mornin' Liz 🙂
I'm having coffee @opaque hearth
Gear Box - Filippo Alfieri
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/architecture/gear-box-v-2
https://youtu.be/lUibJv5hyzY
Here is the Gearbox version 2!! The box lid is Print in place.
Hope you like it, this project will be free for only 24 hours! Do not miss it!
Every week we'll 3D print designs from the community and showcase slicer settings, use cases and of course, Time-lapses!
Gear Box
Filippo Alfieri
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/architecture/gear-box-v-2
CR10S Pro
Red/Blue PLA
25hr 42mins
X:199 Y:195 Z:85mm
.2mm layer / .4mm nozzle
10% Infill / 6mm retract
210C / 60C
174g
90mm/s
--------------...
Voronoi? Vorlons?
Unrelated question -- how's the kitchen remodeling coming along?
In mathematics, a Voronoi diagram is a partition of a plane into regions close to each of a given set of objects. In the simplest case, these objects are just finitely many points in the plane (called seeds, sites, or generators). For each seed there is a corresponding region, called Voronoi cells, consisting of all points of the plane closer to...
Is there a volleyball for the island? Or a smoke monster?
Aha. That looks familiar.
Cool..... I like it
This week we're making voronoi patterns! I'm working on a new project, a parametric 3D printed lamp shade. We'll use Autodesk Fusion 360 to make the base model and import it into MeshMixer to make an organic voronoi pattern.
24x NeoPixel Ring
https://www.adafruit.com/products/1586?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=videodescrip&utm_campaign=3dprint...
Thanks @hard hollow and @rocky reef for another awesome show 🙂
Thanks @hard hollow & @rocky reef . See you all tonight.
Thanks, @hard hollow and @rocky reef 👍
Thanks @hard hollow @rocky reef
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Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
Thanks guys! I've got the FunHouse brick stand printing now!
Good show guys.
Thank you for your time
thank you
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
thanks folks 💜
Great show, thanks
Part of me was hoping to see the unicorn wall light I made get souped up on the show
What I made was good, but I’m working on better improvements to make it better 🙂
Moar NeoPixels and advanced animations?!
Yeah lol
Needs at least 1000 Neopixels
I need to keep a google doc or smth for project ideas and maybe even kits (i do want to get into making them one day if anyone is interested in anything I make haha)
I'm glad I genuinely find PCB design fun
:D
I missed show n tell last week, do we know who is hosting this week?
@hard hollow and @rocky reef will be hosting this week.
?showtimes
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
Show & Tell starts in just under 90 minutes...
Ah, I hope I can make Ask an Engineer at least a bit today!
when will the link for show and tell be sent?
ok
Hi, early birds!
🍿 🍬🍫
Good evening everyone
good evening folks
howdy folks!
Good evening everyone
Good evening all you wonderful people! 
Good evening everyone.
Hi!
Something Fun arrived at the House in "A box" today. Won't say what it is.
Hi, everyone!
Hallooo!
Good evening Adafriends!
Love me some rotary encoders!
Everyone does rotary encoders. I want some rotary decoders!
would that be a servo?
I want some rotary codecs!
Rotary encoders have me spinning in circles
Weird flex but ok
right round baby right round
I missed what CP Parsec is, what is it?
Aw I have one of those circular flex pots! Need an excuse to do something with it.
Thats cool
awesome @robust horizon
Thank you for diffusing, @robust horizon
Yes thanks @robust horizon
🚀
That looks really dang cool @low fractal! And skip the tyoops!
I love nice documentation
I love rockets @low fractal
Yes, same
This is a feast for the eyes -- absolutely amazing work @low fractal and to everyone else!
could be a fun poster, put the X most popular boards on a poster with the pin outs
And also @clear matrix for the work on that, and LadyAda!
Ol' school is good school!
Thanks for sharing @low fractal
Electronics and water....do mix?
They do - outcomes may vary
super cool @sage aspen
=Qusetion for the show and tell-- on the pinouts can you also show the direction each pin is meant for -- as some power pins can be <-- or --> or just ---> or just <-- i am able to figure out most of the time, but I know it might help newbies
Teamwork makes the pinout dream work!
"Unpredictable results may occur."
@sage aspen Great job showing that without spilling water everywhere
Everything mixes - if you are willing to catch your house on fire 🙂
Great job getting the level reading @sage aspen !!!
Thanks
Thanks, very neat @sage aspen
It's a segment on the Workshop livestream where I spend a few minutes showing how to do something in CircuitPython.
@nova totem I had a towel on standby 🙂
Neat! Will be sure to catch the next one!
It's also a measure of distance and a unit of time. 🚀
exactly! We think...
And used for bragging rights in certain bootlegger segments
this is a great feature @paper peak !
this is beyond awesome @paper peak didn't even know half that stuff was possible
Hi @haughty quiver on your demo, was that a 4-way feather base shield?
yes, it's super helpful!
@echo canopy I don’t know if we can do in/out direction automatically, but it’s been on my mind. The RP2040 card has that but it was a ton of manual work.
I'm so happy about this feature @paper peak :)
You could so prank someone on windows. “[boop!] What device did I just plug in?"
❤️ this flexibility from boot.py
Very nice @paper peak. So we can make it so macOS doesn't ask us to help identify the newly plugged in keyboard, right?
That will be really useful @paper peak
I have soooo many cpy things plugged in all the time :)
Super cool
My camera controller will finally stop grabbing the serial port when I'm trying to show a different device.
Sharing is caring!
Thanks Dan @paper peak
🦜
oh yeah had to disable the USB plugin in cura 🙄
Right!
Oh boy, better watch out next April Fools! (We've got a year to prepare though 🙂)
Sounds like you've been there once or twice! 🙂
I'm a real fan of this project @split gazelle
That is one posh fume extractor, @split gazelle ! Want.
it will still list every board in the network preferences because if the Serial I think
Nice, Liz! Will it take a certain standard filter?
I really need to build one of these for soldering @split gazelle great project
Omg auto off would be amazing!
Great project @split gazelle! Combined with the fan controller... 🤯
i'm thinking a charcoal filter that can be slotted in
thank you @waxen thistle @slow spire @nova totem && @autumn turret 😺
sweet @proven crow
Holy smokes @proven crow! That's awesome! Kudos to you
@proven crow That's pretty cool
Thanks guys 😊
@split gazelle Might be fun to try while chopping onions, too, if only for viral video purposes
sweet GUI @nova totem
Ooh! Nice integration @nova totem!
ha! that would be interesting
I feel bad for you though, you can never have things delivered on Wednesday since you take your house numbers in for Show & Tell!
@nova totem do you have a github with your code?
Thanks @split gazelle and @autumn turret
@digital crescent Not yet, I was working on it literally right before the show! I will post it there when it is a bit more polished for sure
Awesome, Cristobal!
Great job Cristobal!
TV-B-Gone? Always a fan of shutting them off! 🙂 Very nice Cristobal!
yay tv be-gone!
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.
Great projects everyone!
awesome projects everybody
awesome! and thanks. what is your github URL?
Thanks for a bunch of fun projects everyone!
yay awesome projects folks!
So good, thanks for all the inspiration. Great projects all
https://github.com/gamblor21/
The project's will be House Numbers and probably House Number Controller or something similar
Thanks everyone for sharing! Y'all are such bright and caring people, making things to better our world and to help each other.
thanks for sharging folks! really awesome projects
PT and Ladyada back at the factory, because they got tired of JP one-upping them in the factory from CA!
And thanks to @hard hollow & @rocky reef for being awesome hosts!
@hard hollow & @rocky reef Just want to thank y'all for the awesome Fusion 360 tutorials; especially on making snap-fit enclosures. That's actually one of the best tutorials on Fusion 360 itself out there on Youtube
Everything I do is snap fit now. 😄
Thanos even loves things that are a snap.
I feel bad for Crackle and Pop - Snap gets all the glory
Howdy 🙂
do you have anything posted on thingiverse @slow spire ?
Snap's OK; if my project crackles or pops, I usually worry.
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@digital crescent I don't, yet, since much of the stuff I'm doing is for work. But I should post a side project.
We wanna show! We wanna show!.... (Little Rascals reference)
Fancy new splash screen.
Ooh… typography
Nice grooves 🎶
That looks familiar. What's old is new again.
clipping the phil audio
A little bit of clipping
Ouch!
cobwebs in the gear
All new logos!
Someone offscreen is washing dishes
like that 😉
When it's time, you can ask in this channel.
Thx
Hello fellow makers!
Love the new graphics!
@spring lotus There will be a dedicated time for questions near the end of the broadcast (they'll announce it). For visibility, @ adafruit and prefix it with something like "QUESTION: such and such" 🙂 ❓
Broadcasting from the factory again! So happy for you!
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@spring lotus I like to prefix my questions with "Question:" and tag @open girder. Note that questions get answered towards the end of the show, which is often around 90 minutes. 🙂
No such thing as a free lunch... except at Adafruit!
The temperature sensor I just used in Show and Tell came as a freebie
Lunch made of chips! YUM! 😋
nice!
🤦♂️ OK, sorry to repeat @waxen thistle
Web? ACK!
you know you have something in your cart 🙂
BTW: Got my AdaBox today. I hope to have time to open it soon! I'm on deadline, so I don't dare open it yet. (I can hear it calling me from across the room!)
woooo!
?showtimes
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JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
And sometimes you order double cause you forget you added an item the first time, not that I've ever done that...
@nova totem in that case you have two choices. you can make a new project, or you can give it to a friend. both are WIN
out of stock... (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
stemmacoder
I've never done that either. 😐
Hiss is pretty loud
...on the same day
and thanks to @pallid sail for contributing CircuitPython support for the stemmaqt rotary encoder
Second that!
Me neither. Totally never would happen. [I remember when Adafruit added the "You've ordered this item on $DATE" to the product page." So helpful!]
I guess a parsec is a measure of awesomeness?
Oh nice, my Adabox is supposed to arrive tomorrow but its location no longer shows up on UPS. Apparently it was destroyed by a space laser so now they're pretending like it never arrived in Chicago. (Why did i bother to look)
It's simultaneously the worst though, because then I'm like "Wait, when? And .... where even is it?"
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Yay! My Adabox is almost here!
100% this. "I totally don't have that! If I did, I wouldn't be looking to buy one!.....wait, where would it be?" -three hours later- "Oh, it's there. Of course."
Three hours after ordering a replacement in frustration 😆
Here is the Women of Computing lego idea: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/3bf5b46c-6c87-4a2d-a2e1-d31ed0e2739e
Collin is the Mr. Rodgers of electronics.
Fred Rogers or Steve Rogers?
Audio is way better
Some day I
The audio much cleaner, less background noise. Peaked once, but it's a massive improvement from earlier.
ok, think it's fixed
much better
thanks for hangin in there!
Hey, it's live 🙂
Someday I'm getting that mini hotplate.
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I'm digging the monochromatic theming 🙂
Where do I get that mini hotplate?
a great time to refresh your title cards
What is this, a camping burner for ants?? Of course not, ants prefer the comfort of B&Bs...From the makers of the luxurious Motion Control Screwdriver, the streamlined USB C ...
That is so cool
The new type design is reminding me of David Carson, and I'm here for it.
That's very cool!
That's awesome Jepler!
Yeah, pinout cards take ages to make 🙂
Thanks @opaque hearth I've enjoyed dipping my toes in this world of making short videos
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@robust horizon I liked your video on the CP tests too
dang that brick 3d print looks good
as far as I'm concerned it's real when JP does it
The broadcast was coming from *inside the factory"!
visible relaxation when the selective soldering machine is on
hi all!
the idea of "playing" with these machines seem fun but I also realize it's real hard work!
Forbidden fondue.
Gah... I used to clean our the wave pots at Apple in Fremont. The video is making it look easy!
....ok, the eyes of the monster mask being clamped like that feels wrong.
Cleaning those solder pots out looks like so much fun! I'm sure it's not, but I'd love to try it one day 🙂
Question for the show--- The good friends at DigiKey have started PCB printing .. Several MCUs like the QTPY have castellated pads making them PCB friendly. Any plans to make "starter prints" of PCBs ... other "prints" could be just helping with the "Feather" layout being placed on the PCB for soldering
Oh dang, the mini hot plates aren't in. I thought I was going to get an $80 hotplate. ♨️
Toggle clamps on the eyes = nightmare fuel
I'm so tempted by those hot plates, and I feel like I have super powers now that I etched my first board at home
25 hours on that print? oh my
Love that 3d print timelapse music
The hotplates are great for dim sum and tapas!
Web ack
I keep checking my adabox tracking, says tomorrow but also doesn't seem to have moved past 'label was printed'
Question for the show--- thougts on a future "PyPoral" with the yet released "Zippy scroll wheel"
Oh yes sensirion rocks
even in mask its important measurent
Yeah my living room gets up to 1500 per the scd30 (though I think I need to make sure it's calibrated) - it's not awesome
Family actually gets headaches at that level. Gonna get an ERV ventilation thing once covid-19 goes down a bit lower so I don't have to open the windows in the winter
Holy moly that's small
Hopefully its just a quirk in the web site. You're not in california are you?
I am in california.. whhhyyy?
me too!
❤️ I know it will work out. Trying not to be OCD, but it's so hard... 🙂
@open girder Trying not to imagine that the truck heading to California didn't get sucked up by a tornado and divert our stuff to OZ
the devkit look like those stemma QT size boards
I'm excited for it too
@upbeat matrix @open girder will send out the flying monkeys to find our boxes
That board looks really nice. I bought one of the earlier ones but I think this is more petite
🙂
LOL
That sensor is so smol!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, the scd30 is what I have. This looks so much nicer!
Wow the factory has great ventilation
the side comparison could be great between those 2
Fancy new graphics
40-pin 0.5mm pitch FPC Flex Cable with A-B Connections - 25cm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/4933
Guys, use the code in honor of me because I can't 😦
was thinking the side difference as is it similar on side but less space need
Haha, good song!
I got the scd30 to prove that we need to open windows sometimes. 🙂 I won the argument. Worth it. Works great.
1.25mm Pitch 5-pin Cable Matching Pair 10 cm long - Molex PicoBlade Compatible https://www.adafruit.com/product/4975
1.25mm Pitch 6-pin Cable Matching Pair - 10 cm long - Molex PicoBlade Compatible https://www.adafruit.com/product/4986
These solid 1.25mm pitch connector cable pairs are great when you need something that can carry a couple amps of current and are easy to connect and disconnect.These cables are nice and ...
the new new new what ladyada used to say have catched the segment
Don't krinkle the cable. Cost me a board. 😦
Interesting, might try that connector for some interchangeable projects!
I probably need to pick up a second pm25 and maybe an scd40 board, make a second aq sensor
TinyPICO ESP32 Development Board with USB-C https://www.adafruit.com/product/5028
go @ornate coyote !
@ornate coyote congrats
w00p!
I love the FeatherS2 board
TinyS2 - TinyPICO ESP32-S2 Development Board https://www.adafruit.com/product/5029
yay @ornate coyote !
oh hey I know that board 😉
Thanks for the awesome new board @ornate coyote !
Kailh Mechanical Four Key Tester: White Black Red Brown Switches https://www.adafruit.com/product/4973
For crafting your very own custom keyboard, these Kailh mechanical key switches are deeee-luxe! This tester gives you one of each, mounted onto a nice plastic cut-out, so you can ...
and it's super cute, as is the pinout card that comes with it 😉
Yup, TinyS2 and TinyPICO have pin compatibility 🙂
CLiCkY CLIcKY CLicky
Oh nice, a "sampler pack"
mechanical keyboards is an expensive rabbit hole to dive into
they are real keys though ? can they be used as such ?
Black Aluminum Kitty Paw Keycap with Translucent Silicone Toes - MX Compatible Switches https://www.adafruit.com/product/4972
If your kitty's paws are going to walk all over your keyboard, you at least want to be able to walk all over kitty paws. Get ready to clacky to your heart's content with an ...
Bean toe keycaps: coming soon!
OMG, that is SOO cute!!!
I got my order for toe beans. Had to have it. Had to. ❤️
They're expensive, but AWESOME!

That's really cute
like if you solder on the back of the tester, do you get a 4 buttons keyboard ?
I would hope so
Trinkey neokey
My cat rolled in chalk on the front porch. She now has pink paws. It's super cute!
Adafruit NeoKey Trinkey - USB NeoPixel Mechanical Key Switch https://www.adafruit.com/product/5020
It's half USB Key, half Adafruit Trinket, half mechanical keeb...it's NeoKey Trinkey, the circuit board with a Trinket M0 heart, a NeoPixel glow, and a Cherry MX-compatible. We were ...
Or is it Gnocchi TrinKey?
is pet trinkey
it's cute but that moving USB connection scares me
i could see @rapid hornet have cats they own button to play with
Adafruit Rotary Trinkey - USB NeoPixel Rotary Encoder https://www.adafruit.com/product/4964
It's half USB Key, half Adafruit Trinket, half rotary encoder...it's Rotary Trinkey, the circuit board with a Trinket M0 heart, a NeoPixel glow, and a rotary encoder body. We were ...
@open girder Might NeoKey be your smallest MCU board, yet?
Yeah USB extension cables would make me feel better about using it at my desk
is there a stemma trinkey yet?
can't stop, help me 
now making usb modules with trinkeys
@upper sandal Yeah, would benefit from a tiny, crafty 3D printed enclosure
I would say the Neopixel Trinkey
Yay new products! and 20% off is awesome!
weback the code it is
Oh the torment, I don't really need anything, but...
[insert blackfriday.gif]
lol
Define "need"
define "need for Trinkey's "
So what if I have Adafruit boxes that I haven't opened! What's your point?
Don't shame me!
Trinkey Adabox could be fantastic
And for real though, for the new people out there, if something is new and in stock, don't count on it being available tomorrow.
Question for Ask an Engineer - How many on-going projects do you have and how do you organize your time in regards to said projects?
My nightstand is a pile of Adabox boxes
PyPortal 2040?
no question - just so happy to see you back in the office!!!
I need a feather RP2040! Any idea when they’ll be back in stock?
yes! I like!
Question for the show--- The good friends at DigiKey have started PCB printing .. Several MCUs like the QTPY have castellated pads making them PCB friendly. Any plans to make "starter prints" of PCBs ... other "prints" could be just helping with the "Feather" layout being placed on the PCB for soldering
I'm blown away by your productivity and output
I always wonder how you can put out as many products as you do
Only one a week? Seems like you are juggling 10 a week! Amazing throughput!
Multipass
We're totally blown away by your prodigious output, but WE WANT MORE!
You linked to a project with a flashlight powered by the heat of the user's hand. Any chance of you doing a project like that? I tried looking it up on digikey but it looked like the parts cost at least $30
Oh nice peek at a project for Adabox 019 😉😉
it seemed super expensive but hopefully i was looking at the wrong thing
woo! or a sequencer!
Oh, that looks awesome! Def want one of those!
@upbeat matrix I'd try searching your favorite search service for energy harvesting LED, as there are a number of them
Thanks everybody!
Thanks @open girder for another awesome show!
Bye all!
thank you for surprise code!
Multipass
Thank you @open girder!
Thank you for the show!!!!!! 😁
Have a great evening, day, night, week, month, year, whatever!
Great show - as usual, thanks everyone! So glad to see you back in the factory!
👍 
thanks @open girder! thanks all!
thanks for a great evening of shows! and welcome back

Great job tonight, nice to see you back in the office.
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌒 Great to see you back in the office again. Progress.
Can we get a toebean salute in chat? 

webhack ?
✌️
Thank you!

Bye!
#WEOVER



@upbeat matrix Adabox confirmed in California (real So Cal - San Diego)
Good afternoon all you parsec parsers and workshop wanderers! 
Good afternoon.
And good afternoon all.
Ready for the Bleeps and Bloops...
Let's do eeeeeet!
howdy!
Yay!
bleeps and bloops on YT!
Bleeps and Bloops!
hurray! A first triumph of streaming of the day!
is that a giant Arduino Uno?
it is indeed
woah!
That's the old vacuum tube version. 😉
Hi YouTube
👋
wave 
I sense magic tonight...
How does this all work?
mic audio is excellent and peaking at about -3dB -- no clipping

I'm digging the greenscreen
ZEE-knee-ah
👍
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I can't wait for JP's hijinks for the next adabox presentation...
18 of them, wow
Ahoy mates!
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Mine made it to SoCal today, JP's Adabox videos are a must see. (no pressure)
Got my Adabox today, too! the tutorials aren't up yet, though.
AdaBox 018 main guide coming soon!
At least you got the i in my name!
John Park's Quick Change of the Week. 😄
JP should work on Broadway with those fast costume changes. JP's Workshop meets Hamilton.
@inner spade 👍
You're very welcome, @haughty quiver !
JP, the new iMac M1 will be getting a boost to the webcam. 🙂
Manual focus FTW.
🤷 That's Apple for ya 😛 [written from a 16" MBP that I bought a few months before the M1 Air came out. oof.]
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
@glossy void 😄
I don't function well -- memory leaks at the end of every day. I turn myself off for 8 hours then back on, right as rain.
@waxen thistle I highly recommend it.
Bear with us
✨ dazzler! ✨
Max Headroom?
this is genuinely a really cool concept
That's really cool
Starfield!
Make the jump to lightspeed, Chewie
that's awesome
Mr Toad saw those lights.
Or....a giant lars.
Lol.
I definitely think having a dedicated machine for handling just the video inputs and the broadcasting out is a good idea
im in the process of redoing my set up this way... havent formulated a good plan yet for all the inputs and 2 mixers etc.
If I had another computer, especially a lesser powerful one, I'd totally get it to do the streaming itself, with the main one as what I'm doing
this is the thing that JP is using? https://www.adafruit.com/product/4969
The Gameduino 3X Dazzler is an Adafruit Feather M4-compatible underwing that outputs HD picture and sound to any HDMI display or TV.The Dazzler is ideal for game designers ...
ah yes it is haha
I probably should pick up a few of the HDMI input stuffs
JP's evil laugh is such a joy to hear
Bubbles!
I wonder if they have an RCA version
Any promo codes for today's show?
Thanks JP for another awesome show!
Does it do audio?
Great show again, John. 👍
what's the name of the cloth/chroma in the back?
and I assume this could be used on webex, zoom. etc.
@haughty quiver Did you get yours from the US seller or the Canadian seller?
Excellent demo today. Was wondering how the graphics board would work with CircuitPython. Put one in the cart.
Lars is there. He's wearing green today.
Lars is cloaked.
I got 1
i got 1
Thank you!
Bye all! Just caught the last few minutes, but it was fun!
bye
Cya JP!
whoa dude
Bye.
another great show. Thanks.
Thaks so much all!
@empty swallow https://www.adafruit.com/product/4715
! Thank you!
Do you have a display, television, projector or some other older device that isn't compatible with your HDMI devices? Here's an adapter that will allow you to convert HDMI from ...
But I think that first one saves the middle step of converting to HDMI
I have a NES I want to capture, so that's why
I would look into the speedrunning community -- they might have better tips and tech if you're looking for decent response times.
I haven't tried that, great question. if the software allows compositing one video input over another, then yes. The HDMI to USB converter makes it show up as a webcame essentially.
I know folks are very passionate about this on the Super Metroid and A Link to the Past communities -- converting their NES/SNES units, getting the best adapters, etc
Should be the same for a SNES as it is for a NES, if memory serves me right.
The conversion stuff where people are like "oh, there's a high resolution signal right on the board, so skip the RF out" is the best :)
On the actual device is the best way to enjoy the game
I did that to my original Atari 2600, there's a composite video signal you can grab IIRC so you don't need an RF box.
And there are console remakes that output high res while still using the same cartridges, controllers, with low-latency. I remember a group made a bunch of these with FPGAs for this very reason....
I like playing my NES on a classic TV that's more era-appropriate
@waxen thistle the stuff from Analogue is very snazzy looking
hahahaha, I was just looking them up as you sent that
I remember checking them out earlier, their stuff was out of stock....
yes, seems to sell through quickly
Good things tend to do that anymore 🙂
I have heard that my roommate is getting me an original NES for my birthday in about a month
I have one of these for my NTSC Tetris game I have on the way
I plan on playing mine on a CRT
CRT is best
They're cool :D I'm glad we have LCDs/OLEDs for new stuff, but I love a good ol' tube
absolutely!
I want a tiny CRT for a watch
i use both, and I'm actually planning on making a CRT addon for a project
Noice
@empty swallow So I've been saying it wrong in my head this entire time. I never missed the "i" but I was saying "zeh". Now I will hopefully get it right.
?showtimes
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
here is the notes doc for today: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NNU93qzgJUvHWzv7P9dbFSBsmtFlkHAtTyyyC2j6KOg/edit?usp=sharing
Deep Dive w/Scott Hi all, this doc is try and track topics and timecodes for my deep dive stream. These notes will end up in the YouTube video’s description. Any help keeping them groomed as I stream is welcome. Housekeeping I’m sponsored by Adafruit to work on CircuitPython. Support them, and...
Good afternoon all you wonderful folks!
[will be bouncing in and out today, work stuff plus helping family repair a brake line on a trailer.]
o/
may be a few minutes late. network issues
no worries
relayed to youtube
😸
Hi Scott!
Hi all.
Hola from 'rado ! 😄
Salut!
Hi everyone!
Audio good, video good, cat very good
Ice ice baby~
Might need heatsinks on the fan!
froze?
Ping peeps.
just me
Hi all
Also - got my vaccination wednesday! 🥳
YouTube seems to be within ~8 seconds of real time
Second shot in 6 weeks
Good afternoon, evening or night folks! And good IT'S WAY PAST YOUR BEDTIME @clever summit!
Hello
Holà @ancient grotto
Hello weblate gang! It's only 23:00 here.
That is 11.
11pm 😉
🙂
11pm... in the morning? 😄
you folks rock
pm is morning now?
is 17:08 here
Hi Spook! 🐈⬛
Plan for the 48 hours after shot two, to not have to do anything. 😮 #fullyVaxed
🎉 Merge complete!
Hello from a Pittsburgh suburb. Yahoo, tomorrow is AdaBox018 day
I think it's amazing how Python can be run on microcontrollers, Python was the first language I learned
Sunday morning? Wow
it's 7am Sunday in Australia on the East Coast
I would've though Saturday 😄
See hugo pm is now morning
See, everything's backward and upside down! 😛
I just saw S on my calendar
Sunny?
i only had a bit of sore arm at the injection site. 2nd dose is probably June sometime
Slurmsday?
S l u r m
Does that mean that you can now get back to BLE, Scott? (And that there might be a chance to have ESP32 circuitpython support some time not too far in the future?)
Oooh! Unboxingbagging!
Slightly behind, but on vax; I felt like I had a cold and really bad migraine after second dose, was sick for a couple days, then I was perfectly fine
Pfizer
Sounds good, I'd love to be able to use circuitpython on the ESP32. All the best for getting the 2nd dose, I'm scheduled to get my first June 1st 🙂
The peace of mind of being vaccinated is incredibly relieving
+1 for Crowdsupply, they're awesome
Good afternoon to all! Hope all of you a great day, I know I am ADABOX 18 came today!!!
i have supported it. 🙂
So essentially it's a Pi Uno? Hehe
me too!
"Sorry, my desk is a mess" -Scott
looks around my own "desk" I'm sure there's still a desk Somewhere under there
I'm guessing #1 is the station of the person who tested/packaged the product?
same, lol
inspected by # 1
feet!
Ah. Fancy pants, SN:1
I try to keep mine clean but what that means in practice is the mess just spills off to the surrounding area
That's a pretty board!
That is a good logo
Phase 3 is when the mess overtakes again, creeping in from the overflow/spill off area
Ohhh, an off button, fancy!
Love the stemma qt port on the board.
It always does lol, I'm just lucky to be on top of it at the moment
Looking at the crowdsupply page, they do show it with some
modules
Some of the other cm4 boards Jeff Geerling is playing with, have for NVME.
What would be the first step to getting cpy on a pi4? The uf2 bootloader?
Probably a rubber ducky. An HID application that writes bad stuff to your computer while you are not looking.
@gusty wedge Did you see Jeff hook up the GPU to it...pretty sweet
yes PCI-e @teal river
no SATA chip
but you can use NVME SSDs
which are way faster too 🙂
Cool, had a feeling. Maybe I should get an M.2 to x16 PCIe adapter and connect a 3090, hehehehe....
Isn't the Broadcom chip on the RPs a stumbling block without the docs/specs?
Like I have the #2 ESP32 Touchdown, Dustin messed up #1 so I only got his second one. 🙂
there are PCI-e to SATA boards in that form factor though for around 15$ if you want SATA
I saw the video happened, but haven't watch it later. (I normally use youtube-dl for everything except for Adafruit streams)
Ah, ok. Good to know
@gusty wedge Worth the watch , love Jeff's videos
I'm glad I'm not the only who is running out of hard drive space who uses youtube-dl. 🙂
That cardboard scratcher looks awesome, and been eyeing it for a while. Do your kitties like it Scott?
It's this thing - https://github.com/SpacehuhnTech/WiFiDuck
Well, kinda. I did use a rubber ducky (made with a playground classic) to install some software in an external lab where I had to write long passwords :).
Yes, I'm -20G free on the computer I have audio output.
Heatsink good
I planned to tune in at 4 (when I'm off) but had a meeting go to now... so done with meetings this week
ugh, meetings can suck
I built one of those on Adafruit hardware!
Hey, 77 people on youtube. I remember when ~30 was a lot of people.
11 on Twitch, not too shabby either
some double counting 🙂
I'm a YouTube!
getting my audio from Twitch, and video from YouTube 🙂
Jupyter kinda works. I've even used a bit of blinka in it.
great talk!
Have people asked for something like Pip?
🌩️
I would like something like pip, but not for everyday... but mostly for when I upgrade my board from 5 to 6, and now to 7-testing.
What's that name? Circup?
circup
thanks.
Misinterpreted? But nothing EVER gets misinterpreted on the internet!
especially sarcasm
Exactly. Everything on internet is fact checked and verified true, right?
It's true - Plato and Michaelangelo said so
Plato the vampire hunter?
The cat is the thermometer and the glass of water is the humidity sensor.
Plato Play-Doh's grandfather
We can see it in the theater of our minds
The theatre of my mind has stale popcorn scattered around....and someone is in the back yapping. And hey you, down in front! Turn the cell phone off. Sheesh.
What is the cleverest way to parse a incoming string in CP ? (for say erratic strings from another CP pushing variables over UART)
Platons de albóndigas. (for the spanish crew, if you know Les Luthiers)
I have no idea XD
regex all the way !
I'm still new to CP... so... I have no answers, lol
...to the madhouse!
if you control both ends, I'd use json
Man you are old 🙂 Les Luthiers (I guess me too as I could recognize them)
yup.
I hate that protectionism to ISPs. Like the new version better.
Anyone should be able to give internet anywhere
Specially for broadband. In CR we have mostly one bad provider per-area, instead of the chance to choose a good one. So, they are all mediocre.
Awesome - folks starting to use TinyS2 + CP in the wild
https://twitter.com/andy_warb/status/1393320437225037828
I made me a funky little “eclipse” clock. Powered by @CircuitPython lots of @adafruit blinkies and @unexpectedmaker TinyS2. https://t.co/a5pB5AqQx0
I have sad slow 100mbps symmetrical
We have no ISP monopoly anywhere in the socialist state of Sweden.
I'd wish.
Yeah it's not actually bad
At least it's symmetrical
50/50 at the apartment, 50/25 at home. We could get more, but it'd be $100/month+ for the increase. So....50 download is more than enough for 1-2 users that don't tax things too much.
Google Scott!
Did you worked on any of the Maps+Sat stuff?
Yeah, I'd die without symmetrical
$83.99 for 50/50, care of Verizon of NJ
My 5Mbps DSL is $60/mo.
Symmetrical?
