live-broadcast-chat

[clever summit]

Meaning, "When the boss is away..."

Yeah, sound is fine.

[wind spoke]

Forcing gc can sometime help.

[autumn turret]

Good evening/afternoon/night/[time-of-day] friends!

[wind spoke]

Hi all.

[modern night]

howdy

[clever summit]

He guys!

[autumn turret]

bows deeply and kindly to the assembled company

[wind spoke]

Converting to mpy can help with memory too (I guess).

Or doing everything on the RP2040 and no memory problem anymore.

[autumn turret]

Howdy @modern night, eh?

[clever summit]

OK, Following the guide, and it is uotdated?
https://learn.adafruit.com/ez-make-oven/installing-the-code

[modern night]

Howdy indeed--it's a great doofy sounding greeting 😄

[autumn turret]

Very slick TouchDeck!

[clever summit]

Says it need pwmio

[autumn turret]

It is, but I live in Texas, so I hear it plenty. And other interesting expressions, so shrug

[clever summit]

I just installed EZ Bake on the Pyportal Titano.

If I could get it to run. I suck at this. 🙂

[autumn turret]

Pair(++) programming AND debugging!

[wind spoke]

If you have a program to connect to your other device, then Mu will have no other option than to take the only serial left...

[clever summit]

The weblate GANG is always ++! 🙂

[autumn turret]

Except for number translated strings - then we're usually a touch --! 🙂

[clever summit]

Number translated string remaining--

Yeah, you need 2 folders copied.

Close enough? - I can't even get it to start!

It needed a CP update.

Now I am at the memory allocation error.

[autumn turret]

76K

[wind spoke]

Can we cheat on the number of colour of the displayio "buffer", like going to a 16 colors mode?

[autumn turret]

You're on the latest non-daily/commit...ly(?) build

[clever summit]

I am on 6.1

[wind spoke]

circup ...

[autumn turret]

Doesn't PyPortal setup and assign networking stack stuff?

Even if it doesn't use it

[clear matrix]

Hey, all! Dropping in with a shameless request. If you find any Python/CircuitPython/MicroPython on hardware etc related projects, topics, or news items, please send them to [e-mail]. It's finalised on Monday so anything coming on Monday onward will go into next week's. Here's what's already included: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython-weekly-newsletter/blob/gh-pages/_drafts/2021-03-30-draft.md It's the first one I'm doing entirely solo, and I'd appreciate any contributions! Thank you!

[wind spoke]

With the new pybase, maybe you can pick the piece you want.

[clever summit]

Sorry @clear matrix my one and only project has already been featured. 🙂

[autumn turret]

Will do, and either way, you've got this! 🙂

[tame dew]

Nice to have the guest stream by @smoky island

[wind spoke]

Did this but forgot to put #circuitpython-dev on it: https://twitter.com/DavidGlaude/status/1375557719646740482?s=20

[clear matrix]

No worries! Thank you for making projects!

[clear matrix]

Thank you 😊

[clear matrix]

Ooh, nice! Thanks!

[clever summit]

Good luck!

[wind spoke]

This was a quick post to test I2C in a issue. Normally I "polish" my tweet. 🙂

[clever summit]

320 x 480

[wind spoke]

Do you have a link to the original code?

[clever summit]

Got it running by making the graph smaller.

[wind spoke]

You can scale it 2x and make it 2x smaller.

1/4 of the memory!

[clever summit]

https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides/tree/master/PyPortal_EZ_Make_Oven

[tame dew]

Or just “from pyportal import “ what is actually being used

[wind spoke]

Not half but quarter of the pixel...

Is PyPortal already using the PyBase(?) that stuff from @sage aspen that is reuse on various board.

There you can cherry pick the module or submodule you need and not take the network.

[clever summit]

You mean PortalBase?

[wind spoke]

That code use 3 differents fonts, so if you can change the design a bit to only use two... maybe you save.

font2 is only used for a button and a message saying "Wait" ...

[tame dew]

Yeah. We need the initializer 😦

[wind spoke]

"font2.load_glyphs" with all the character is a waste if it only display "Wait" and "Start".

[clever summit]

Just tested that. 🙂

[wind spoke]

It is 4000 bytes to store a sin and make sound ....

[autumn turret]

That tone is 4000bytes

[wind spoke]

Remove the sound. 🙂

https://learn.adafruit.com/using-piezo-buzzers-with-circuitpython-arduino/circuitpython

[autumn turret]

WaitSr

or SWairt alphabetically

[wind spoke]

try font2=font1 🙂

[clever summit]

No, sound is only 160 bytes

[autumn turret]

Actually, do fonts and labels scale? That's using 3 fonts, but only 1 font face at 3 sizes

And the sizes are multiples of 3

or 6 if we can scale at 1.5x

Oh, or not, since it's 16, not 15 like I misread

[wind spoke]

Double check the Wait and Start...

[grand tusk]

Tea?

[wind spoke]

But it's dynamic right.

[grand tusk]

Just half a cup if you don't mind.

[tame dew]

\o/

[wind spoke]

Wait, that "Bad/missing" message is also font2 it seems...

Maybe just search and replace of font2 by font1 everywhere.

Or just do not prefetch glyft

Yes it is about speed.

[autumn turret]

For grins, maybe try using the terminal font

Doesn't look like we're missing much speed TBH

[wind spoke]

Now you have to speedtest to see the difference...

[autumn turret]

Is Ctrl+D not releasing some memory?

[wind spoke]

Terminal IO could replace font1.

That drawing feel slow...

Try not using font2 and replace every usage by font1.

[autumn turret]

Is it maybe loading all glyphs if you don't specify a subset?

[clever summit]

I removed the LoadGlyphs and it displays the graph full screen.

Drawing is painful though... 🙂

[tame dew]

Is font3 the largest glyphs and therefore the most pixels/memory?

[wind spoke]

Yes, with big font comes big memory.

Go binary font? As an exercice...

[tame dew]

When you dropped load_glyphs for font3... was that the big change from 13k to 4k?

[autumn turret]

If we could replace the size 9 with a size 8, and scale the label to 1.5 and 2.0x with the same font, that would help

But doesn't look like BitmapLabel.scale() takes floats

[wind spoke]

Is max_size still useful? It is not needed anymore.

[clever summit]

I don't have the sensor either, so not sure of mem usage there.

[wind spoke]

Any other temperature sensor?

[grand tusk]

Team code golf. It is now a thing!

[clever summit]

I skipped font3 and it works full screen. Add font3 and it don't.

[autumn turret]

Empty group to blank the screen quickly?

[wind spoke]

What did you replace font3 with?

[clever summit]

font2.

Not a big difference in layout

[wind spoke]

It's only on top.

So those lines are done pixel per pixel???

[clever summit]

I almost got it running by doing this:
font3.load_glyphs(b'EZMOCakevnotrl')

Hahaha!

[autumn turret]

Almost?

[ancient grotto]

Hello, again missing stuff

[autumn turret]

Hiya @ancient grotto. Decide to go for a run again instead of watching stream? 😉

[clever summit]

Oh, the GANG is complete. Hi @ancient grotto

[ancient grotto]

No it rain all day, I did not know I was working on something

[ancient grotto]

YESSS!!!!

[clever summit]

Almost = It actually draws the full page. But it crashes in the next step.

The tones only used 256 bytes actually.

[autumn turret]

What if you 1/4 the bitmap, and 2x the scale?

And 2x if necessary

as in not always

[wind spoke]

You are not going to save time. 🙂

Try binary font...

Take the sound an put that in a module?

[modern night]

does another module import most of the pyportal library?

or conversely, does pyportal import a bunch of stuff other libraries import as well

[autumn turret]

Ctrl+D and see if the number repeats?

The more you import, the more RAM you have free... so.... from * import *?

What if you try to enable auto-GC?

gc.enable()

[modern night]

I wonder if there's a catch in one of the other modules where if not pyportal: import xyz

[autumn turret]

Going over PyPortal and PortalBase does have some gc.collect() calls in __init__()s

Going over the code for those libs that is

[wind spoke]

https://learn.adafruit.com/making-a-pyportal-user-interface-displayio/sounds

[autumn turret]

Does __init__() run from the import blah, or when instantiated? I didn't looks too closely at which init calls have more gc.collect()

[clever summit]

Sure.

[autumn turret]

You can change it

[clever summit]

Pointless with secret stuff.

[smoky island]

https://gist.github.com/FoamyGuy/00492896571d8b0a8821ed038a00360b

[clever summit]

Just realized the Titano lacks a qwiic connector.

[grand tusk]

Secret gists help Microsoft find the good stuff.

[autumn turret]

And "secret" just means it's not discoverable. But if you have the URL, you can reach it - public or private

[pallid sail]

That is a little deceptive

[wind spoke]

The link is secret...

[clever summit]

code.py utdata:
before pyportal 207360
after pyportal 113616
after imports 84128
No SD card found: inget SD-kort
after pyportal init 79952
EZ Make Oven Controller version  1.3.0
temperature sensor not available
melting point:  183
before font2 load glyphs 46736
after font2 load glyphs 46304
x range: 0 340
y range: 30 258.5
reflow temp: 183
graph point:  0 183 -> 100 160
display complete
before main loop 19296

[grand tusk]

My touch deck doesn't have a speaker (not yet anyway).

[wind spoke]

Your PyPortal speak... another language.

[autumn turret]

https://gist.github.com/hugodahl/b6ebe7c44f4a50b5d075e6e4f6145854

[wind spoke]

So what was the fix that really helped?

[autumn turret]

Even pulled up in incognito

[clever summit]

My PyPortal speaks a weblate GANG language!

[autumn turret]

Make sure to remove the extra print() calls before posting up the code

[clever summit]

I used this CP: Adafruit CircuitPython 6.1.0 on 2021-01-21; Adafruit PyPortal Titano with samd51j20

[ancient grotto]

😮

[autumn turret]

"Secret" GIST?

[clever summit]

I added a mem printout to loop and get this:

main loop 4384
main loop 2112
main loop 15744
main loop 13472
main loop 11200
main loop 8928
main loop 6656
main loop 4384
main loop 2112
main loop 15744
main loop 13472
main loop 11200

2112 looks scary to me.

[autumn turret]

The numbers duplicate

[modern night]

can you evoke gc at the end of each loop?

[autumn turret]

So it's consistent allocations

[wind spoke]

Forcing a garbage collection at each loop...

What he said.

[clever summit]

It does repeat the same. But I don't have the temperature sensor.

[modern night]

if it functions like it does in the python standardlib, calling gc.collect() frequently has a time cost to it, but when it's collecting MB instead of GB it might not be a huge time cost

[clever summit]

Yeah, this loop is not time sensitive, it is controlling an oven. On and off can be 0.1 Hz and it wouold still work.

[modern night]

that's good to know

[autumn turret]

Each allocation measures to 2262bytes in @clever summit's numbers. So when you're trying to allocate another 2262 with 2112 left, GC triggers, and repeat

[clever summit]

Reading the code it only runs at 1 Hz.

You are math genius, @autumn turret !

[grand tusk]

Ah, math.

[tame dew]

Pretty standard to have two lines before class... so PyCharm did that

[clever summit]

Lucky I got the Titano yesterday then. 🙂

Thanks! Doing some useful stuff a friday night for once. 🙂

[modern night]

thanks for the stream, this was really fun!

[grand tusk]

Thank you!

[wind spoke]

Thanks.

[ancient grotto]

Thank You!

[tame dew]

Thank you @smoky island

[smoky island]

Thanks for hanging out folks. Glad we could still get some Blinka action in on Friday night.

[lilac tusk]

Hey all! Come hang out with me Sunday over on Twitch! I’m doing more PCB design for the RealTime Pi and would love to have everyone! 🙂

https://twitch.tv/oakdevtech

[autumn turret]

What time @lilac tusk?

[lilac tusk]

6:30PM EDT/ 3:30pm PDT

[autumn turret]

👍

[autumn turret]

Since you streamed tonight @smoky island, are you forgoing tomorrow's, or still streaming?

[smoky island]

I will be on tomorrow too at the normal time.

[smoky island]

I will be streaming some work on Tiled games and experimenting with using PyCharm directly on devices. Join me here in the chat, on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJ4pyWRKWs or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[grand tusk]

Hello.

[ancient grotto]

Good Morning

[grand tusk]

C-t q to disconnect tio.

[ancient grotto]

You could open the folder

circuitpy

[autumn turret]

Greetings friends!

Going well, thanks! How are you doing?

[ancient grotto]

@autumn turret Good Morning

[autumn turret]

Ahoy @ancient grotto. How do you do this fine day?

[ancient grotto]

I am good thank how about yourself?

[clever summit]

Hello GANG!

[autumn turret]

[ancient grotto]

and WEBlate is complete @clever summit Good afternoon

Did you receive your blinka tattoos?

[clever summit]

Good afternoon. So what are we doing today?

I did get my tattoo. 🙂

[autumn turret]

So you're running blinka against the code on the device?

I've seen the double reboot from Mu too, so I wonder if it's maybe the OS doing something with an index file, alternate stream or something

[clever summit]

My OS is macOS and it only does wonderful stuff.

[modern night]

morning all

[clever summit]

(Like putting stupid index files on me network servers)

[ancient grotto]

Good Morning

[clever summit]

Food time. BBL.

[autumn turret]

Greetings @modern night

[light stump]

Hey cool people, gonna listen in for a little while.

[ancient grotto]

@light stump Good Morning

parsing the keys?

[autumn turret]

I can imagine that the == between dicts might be checking the reference

Could you do somehting like dict1.keys.all(dict2.keys)?

[modern night]

you can write a function,

    is_equal = True
    for key in a:
        if key in b:
            if a[key] != b[key]:
                is_equal = False
        else:
            is_equal = False

    for key in b:
        if key in a:
            if a[key] != b[key]:
                is_equal = False
        else:
            is_equal = False
    return is_equal```

[autumn turret]

^^ Pseudo-code btw

[modern night]

let me clean that up..

[ancient grotto]

good point, we would need to compare both ways, not only one direction

[manic vessel]

should 'index' be '_index'?

[autumn turret]

Bonjour @manic vessel

[manic vessel]

Afternoon all

[ancient grotto]

Good Afternoon

[modern night]

def comp_d(d1, d2):
    def _light_comp(a,b):
        is_equal = True
        for key in a:
            if key in b:
                if a[key] != b[key]:
                    is_equal = False
                    break
            else:
                is_equal = False
                break
        return is_equal
    if _light_comp(d1,d2):
        return _light_comp(d2,d1)
    return False

really? I love break, and personally choose it over returns

[autumn turret]

What's "switch case" in Java?

[modern night]

when it comes to python (and this is my personal preference) I use break over returns so I know where my functions are returning from (i've been burned by rarely used returns by that too often...)

[ancient grotto]

I am a continue python guy

[autumn turret]

Oh, ok

Like in C#, just usually heard it called "switch statement", never heard "switch case"

[modern night]

continue is a syntactic option I need to look at using more often

[ancient grotto]

And I need to use break, I think I used once

[autumn turret]

C/C++ has that too

Yeah, break prevents "fall through"

[ancient grotto]

I guess using break will avoid a lot of elifs.

[autumn turret]

I think C# added the implied break, because fall-through is really bad

[grand tusk]

all([a[n]==b[n] for n in ['x','y']])

[light stump]

😾

[autumn turret]

Java doesn't have ternary? like var value = ( a == b ) ? "This is true" : "Patently false";?

Kitties fighting kitties 😿

[manic vessel]

Java has ternary conditional. I miss it kotlin something shocking.

[autumn turret]

Dude, that cat's playing her hoomins like fiddle! lol

Classic VB/VBScript didn't have ternary. But, it did have IIF(condition, trueCode, falseCode). Could make one of those with some delegates @manic vessel

[clever summit]

I'm back. What did I miss? 🙂

[ancient grotto]

Some philosophical code discussion

[clever summit]

Oh, somenone mentioning VBScript. Oh....

That is the code discussions I really like. Doing loads of code review discussions with our new devs.

[autumn turret]

In the end, opinions about programming languages, patterns, etc are like any other opinion. They're all wrong unless they're mine! 😄

[ancient grotto]

continue or break for you @autumn turret

[autumn turret]

Fun times. I try to do that, but other people are more concerned "Does what it's supposed to, ☑️ " than style/structure/patterns

[clever summit]

Or in this case, mine. I am the system architect I basically own the code (I am also the Supreme Commander).

[autumn turret]

So I'm putting docs and standards together for contractors who will be working with us, since I get to guide the development, and review all PRs. Consistency, at LAST!

[autumn turret]

That's cool. You're allowed to be wrong if you're the end-all be-all! 😛

[clever summit]

yeah, I need to get to that place as well.

Oh, that is not an issue. I am never wrong. 🙂

(Except when I am)

[autumn turret]

They're both different things in C#, so depends on what you're doing

[clever summit]

So, c# for you as well, Hugo?

[autumn turret]

Yessir, and getting into Angular and TypeScript (no longer AngularJS, at last)

[clever summit]

I do avoid frontend stuff. Still does not stop me from architecting that as well. We are slowly getting there.

[autumn turret]

Yeah, my title is "Senior Software Engineer", but I'm mostly doing architecture stuff. But not getting the title/salary. 🤷

Title I don't particularly care, except that title & salary bands are pretty tightly coupled at work

[clever summit]

I rewrote one of our applications in the original Angular. Two weeks later Google announced that it was getting replaced. Me was like; OK, scrap this - I give up.

[ancient grotto]

you would need to close the Pycharm terminal and restart

[autumn turret]

Might PyCharm be catching/eating your Ctrl+T?

[clever summit]

My title is System Architect and I do get the pay that comes with it.

[autumn turret]

Trade you?

[clever summit]

🙂

I 'm not employed though. Independant contractor.

[autumn turret]

Ah, hmmm

How about we trade, except that hire me as an employee, cover insurance, benefits and retirement plan, and we call it even? 🤣

[clever summit]

Hey @smoky island you really need to do something about the keyboard resonating into the microphone. I have you hooked up to my HiFi system, and the bass is good.

Sounds like the desk resonating.

[autumn turret]

Just a simple mic arm would do

[modern night]

a wash cloth between the mic and desk might help dampen it

[autumn turret]

Clickey keys are ok, it's like keyboard ASMR

[modern night]

I'd bet the bean bags is a better choice

[clever summit]

Yeah, the clicky key doesn't bother me, kinda reminds me of better days. 🙂

The good old IBM keyboards.

[manic vessel]

Cherry blue or IBM PS/2 FTW

[clever summit]

Yeah, the bean bag wasn't enough.

[autumn turret]

I've got one of those large mouse pads under my keyboard. Mostly to help stuff not slide around, but it dampens bumps well

[clever summit]

I did some years installing software at customer sites, so I tried many different keyboards. The PS/2 ones are my favourites. And yet here I am with a modern flat mac keyboard....

[ancient grotto]

yep give me a ps/2

[autumn turret]

Check out Keychron keyboards. They're mechanicals in all sorts of formats (104/105 full, TKL, 75%, 60%, etc) with Mac users in mind

[light stump]

I think the bean bag isn't damping the low frequency. I remember the IBM ka-ching keyboards. Weighed a ton, almost comforting like a weighted blanket.

[clever summit]

Also, the PS/2 ones felt that you could run them over with a tank and they would still work! Hahaha.

[autumn turret]

And REALLY reasonably affordable

even if you're a systems architect moneybags type of person 😛

[clever summit]

Keyboards are a business expense, so no problems there.

On the other hand we use a swedish keyboard layout, so that is usually the problem finding one.

[autumn turret]

Is the return type of the "can walk" method a Bool?

or bool equivalent

@clever summit - For Swedish, can you use an ISO with Swedish caps? If so, Keychron's are CherryMX compatible

[manic vessel]

https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate/

[clever summit]

Yep, Keychron offers a german layout, no swedish.

[manic vessel]

Who needs labels on the keys ?

[clever summit]

Yep, we use ISO. Just need to find the rights caps then.

I LOVE my ÅÄÖ labels on the keyboard.

🙂

[autumn turret]

Amazon, Drop.com, bunch of others will have those layouts

and all the other specialty keyboard sites

Or custom order some from WASD

[clever summit]

Hahah - Das Keyboard: 105-key for UK, NO, and DE layouts. NO has half of our population. 🙂

[modern night]

dictionaries are shallow copied, so if you want a copy d2 = d1.deepcopy() *should work

That's a fantastic question

[autumn turret]

But Norway has Leo where Sweden has ABBA. I think the winner is clear!

[clever summit]

Obvioulsy Sweden.

[autumn turret]

The [keyboard] world appears to disagree! lol

But at the same time, Sweden does have @clever summit, so that does give it a good bump.

[clever summit]

CircuitPython does not speak norwegian, so there is that!

[autumn turret]

They're not part of "the gang"

[clever summit]

They are also not part of the EU.

[autumn turret]

Neither is the UK. 🤔

[grand tusk]

tile[11].can_walk is False. You should be looking at type==10?

[autumn turret]

I don't have any insight, but it's starting to feel like an off-by-one thing

[clever summit]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-nordic-layout

WHAT!!! I don't want norwegians characters on my keyboard! 🙂

[autumn turret]

Problem solved

[clever summit]

OMG YOU ARE SO CLEVER!

[autumn turret]

I have a K2 on my desk at the office. Nice board. I'm on a K8 here at home

[clever summit]

They even have hot-swappable keys? Insane....

[autumn turret]

Yep

Some newer boards even have optical switches

If paint buckets is a bit much, there's also this

[clever summit]

I still have this in my desk drawer....

[autumn turret]

SAmple keyboard???

LUL - I like it @clever summit . But how do you click?

[clever summit]

🙂

It's an analog delete key!

So the Keychron K4 comes in a nordic version. But switch Red/Blue/Brown. Which one should I choose?

[autumn turret]

Clicky blues FTW

Or one of each, to be safe

[clever summit]

Fancy, it's RGB....

[autumn turret]

What about tile_type = math.max(tile_type - 1, 0)?

on line 40

or 1

Format button, fancy!

[clever summit]

Ordered. 😎

Cheaper than Logitech anyway.

[autumn turret]

Nice!

[clever summit]

So now I need to order custom keycaps, @autumn turret ?

[autumn turret]

Don't forget the white-out for the NO keys!

Yeah, custom or alternate ones

[clever summit]

Sounds expensive. 🙂

"Europe: Around 15 to 20 business days via Yuntrack.com"

[autumn turret]

Doxxing yourself, I think that's a demerit badge for streamers

[autumn turret]

Ouch. Is that typical?

[manic vessel]

Reminds me of Dan at The Coding Train. I don't know how many times he's ended up sharing his secrets on stream.

[clever summit]

I was kinda surprised. Never heard about Yuntrack though.

[autumn turret]

Typo in "ignore"

[clever summit]

Oh, it is Arduino Day 2021. The Arduino crowd are live streaming.

[autumn turret]

For "all files" in git, you can do git add .

or git commit -am "commit message" will add AND commit with the message

[clever summit]

Yeah, me neither.

[autumn turret]

I think Arduino is what really started the "accessible to all persons" micro controllers

-a is short for --add, and -m is short for --message

[clever summit]

Time to make the switch from VS Code?

[autumn turret]

Oh yeah, before that, buy special chips, by a programmer, by an eraser if you had the erasable chips, tool chain, etc.

[autumn turret]

OFC! one of us! one of us!!

I like VSCode, but for Python, PyCharm feels more apt

[clever summit]

I use their other IDE's so I am already licensed.

[autumn turret]

ReSharper and Rider @clever summit ?

I've tried DataGrip a few times, but I can't get my brain around it. Maybe I'm too conditioned with SSMS

[clever summit]

Resharpers since forever! Also Datagrip.

Yeah, it differs to SSMS but I do use other databases so it is nice to have a tool that supports them all.

[autumn turret]

I also like LINQpad for some SQL Server stuff

[manic vessel]

JetBrains Ultimate (so PyCharm) on Windows and Mac. VSCodium on RaspberryPi

[autumn turret]

Or other DBs, but we're an SQL Server shop

[autumn turret]

Same for Windows and Mac here

[clever summit]

Main customer is SQL Server.

[autumn turret]

But I think JetBrains tools do Linux too, no?

[manic vessel]

They do, but no Arm support yet.

[clever summit]

Yep.

[autumn turret]

Ahhh

[clever summit]

Reasons for dual reboots....

[lilac tusk]

They are working on ARM support supposedly

[manic vessel]

It may be a requirement for Gnome/KDE.

[clever summit]

"PyCharm is kinda bloated" - Proof, it just told me it us running out of memory on my 48GB RAM Mac... hahahaha!

[autumn turret]

OFC it's bloated - JAVA! 😛

[ancient grotto]

I run Pycharm in the RP4 🤔

[clever summit]

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them

[modern night]

I've got to head out, thanks for the lovely stream!

[manic vessel]

No JDK found. Please validate either PYCHARM_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
Just tried it again on RPi4. Will investiagte further later.

[clever summit]

Yes, that is the Apple problems. The System Volume Information folder is a Windows problem.

[ancient grotto]

Really, I installed like three months ago , and I had it in the RP3

But I am using the community edition

You will need to compile some code to the update files works, if I remmeber correctly. let me find something

[ancient grotto]

If my memory is good I used this method https://www.officialrajdeepsingh.dev/how-to-install-pycharm-in-raspi-4/

[manic vessel]

Cheers.

The included JBR is 64-bit so won't run on my 32-bit installation. I've just installed openjdk-11-jdk and it RUNS. Oh yeah!

[ancient grotto]

Pycharm will complain abouht fsnotify, but you download the code from github and compile it

There is no problem with that, python will go through the file to build the namespace dict if I am remember correctly

[clever summit]

No elevator music? Disappointed... 🙂

[autumn turret]

No voice audio either anymore!

[clever summit]

No sound

[ancient grotto]

@smoky island no sound

[autumn turret]

Yeah, we hear you

[clever summit]

The Great Search works fine!

Still got that in my head since Scott's stream.

[autumn turret]

lol

Here's some DMCA safe, royalty free songs commissioned and put out there by Harris Heller, SPECIFICALLY to avoid that nasty mess
https://twitter.com/HarrisHeller/status/1239974746306965506

Harris Heller (@HarrisHeller)

Let me clear the air and tell you what this music is..

👀 180 songs
👀 6.5 hours of music
👀 Copyright free
👀 Use behind your live stream
👀 Use in your YouTube videos
👀 It will be available on literally every music streaming platform (Spotify, etc)
👀 100% free

There you go https://t.co/VXeQjwyC6A

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There's others out there, but he had this made for this specific reason

There's also this one, which I hear is decent
https://soundcloud.com/bartlebeats

for z in "XY":
  my_game.player_loc[z] = _new_loc[z]

Maybe make a multi-assign/copy method, like def BulkCopy(source -> [], dest -> [], items -> [elems]

I think OBS has an audio source available. Worse case, browser source

Coz you could do that with ["width", "height"] in other places

or even ["X", "Y"]

That's cool. Just putting it out there 🙂

Just made me think of that when you went from dict copy to assignments

[grand tusk]

\o/

[upbeat matrix]

I don't trust this. Years ago I added some creative commons music to a youtube video and years later the web site that the hosted the music apparently added their entire catalog to Google and my video got de-monetized. It wasn't worth it to me to fight about.

[ancient grotto]

NICE!!!!

[clever summit]

Thanks for the company! 🙂

[upbeat matrix]

I don't think the artist has a choice

[ancient grotto]

Thank you @smoky island

[autumn turret]

Have a good weekend @smoky island and everyone!

[ancient grotto]

And be sure to be here next week for our weekly Weblate meeting

[autumn turret]

I'm not seeing ads, but I have an ad-blocker gasp

[clever summit]

I wouldn't know. I am on YT Premium.

[autumn turret]

Put down a walk-on keyboard like in the movie "Big", and let the cats dance on it for music!

Thanks for the learnings and company 🙂

[manic vessel]

Cheers. Have a great weekend.

[smoky island]

Thanks for hanging out all!

[tame dew]

@smoky island inspired me to order everything needed for the EZ Make Oven. Ordered different thermocouple and breakout than the guide.

[smoky island]

Nice! I've got a breakout but need to get the thermo-couple wire itself.

[tame dew]

I ordered one with the stainless steel tip. Also ordered PT1000 and breakout. It would be interesting to use a proper SCR and PWM for proportional control... I had started down that road previously.

[lilac tusk]

alrighty, going live soon!

https://twitch.tv/oakdevtech

[autumn turret]

Need to step out for a bit, but got Twitch open for "lurk mode" 🙂

[autumn turret]

Back at [long] last. Looks like you've got a good bit of the board designed

So is that 1.1v actually 1.1, or a stand-in for another value?

I thikn it does. So you don't have to worry about bringing in every voltage to the chip it might need or reference?

That part, labelling a bunch of pins, looks like it gets tedious. You'd think there would be a macro or some way to enter ranges and generate labels

like GPIO[1-3,4,6,8-11]

Then drag them into place

I guess AutoHotkey would do that, at least for Windows

would -> could

And it messes with my OCD that the lengths are different, so I'd be tempted to do is GPIO01 instead of GPIO1

But I'm weird like that

So say the old folks. Goes to show, you never can tell

(to your "C'est la vie")

It's very faint

It pretty much blends in with the background sound

What's the worse that could happen?! lol

That's looking like it's getting pretty squeezy tho

Any chance of "interference" (impedence? I forget the right term) between lines that close?

Ok. I was curious, because I'd worked in cabling before (network), and cross-talk is a big deal. Or at least was back then

"hopping" as in traces over traces?

Oh, I see.

Wow, 2 hours. Looks like you've gotten a good amount done tho

How much complexity, time and cost would having POE included? Just curious, I don't have POE gear

I can see a bit where it is

802.<something> <mumble> <mumble>

So you just need the right jack? No extra controller to split data & power?

So all that blue around there is ground?

Programming can help with all the renaming. Copy/Paste!

It certainly seems like it

Specially with traces and not just whatever those yellow lines were. Those to the uninitiated are... scary looking

Looking nice

Cool. Very curious about driver dev as well

I do regular/business software dev "for work", so the rest of the technology stack is all of interest to me

Have a good evening @lilac tusk!

[lilac tusk]

you too 🙂

see ya during the desk of ladyada show

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - Happy Arduino Day (weekend)! Arduino for RP2040, some STEMMA QT designs, and more… https://youtu.be/fKDeqZiIwHg

[open girder]

The Great Search - Replacement for APX803 Auto-Reset Supervisor
https://www.digikey.com/short/r07ph903

[lilac tusk]

This is definitely the most tenuous part of making Electronics

[shell mason]

i was thinking if you get 2 different style you could perhaps add both of those so both ground so routing could be easier

[inner spade]

I've got the disco ball spinning, waiting for the music on YT. 🕺

[viscid bolt]

And waiting for the breath of fresh air?

[haughty quiver]

gasp

🧁

[pallid sail]

I see you live on twitter but not YT

[dry marten]

Is your audio on?

I hear now

[shell mason]

Airquality Park

[ivory flax]

@haughty quiver. Is there a show on YouTube

[shell mason]

twitch work

[ivory flax]

Ugh I don't have twich

[pallid sail]

you can watch on twitch without having it - https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[cinder wind]

apparently no youtube, but on twitch

[pallid sail]

Periscope/twitter - https://t.co/JEseQZSwBz?amp=1

[shell mason]

over the limit of the sensor wow

[cinder wind]

wow that's awesome. So I can check the state of my SodaStream

[shell mason]

well need to check range of it

[cinder wind]

lol finally streaming on youtube

hahahaha

[ivory flax]

@shell mason. Thank you for the link

[haughty quiver]

hmm strange -- the youtube broadcast is telling me it was fine, but apparently not?

[cinder wind]

it's fine now, but it's only been going for about 30 seconds

[haughty quiver]

odd

[pallid sail]

The YouTube stream started once your stopped the actual stream

[fossil cave]

Did I miss a half priced sgp30?

[pallid sail]

40% off SCD-30 - https://www.adafruit.com/product/4867

[haughty quiver]

It looks like I should be able to download the stream from Twitch and then re-upload it to YouTube. Sorry for the weirdness!

[pallid sail]

It happens. Bits get flipped occasionally

[ivory flax]

Sad out of my price range good show once I got in however

[upbeat matrix]

wow, that's a really substantial discount on the sensor. Usually the sensors are so cheap it doesn't matter.

[upbeat matrix]

If anyone is interested, I have a project using that sensor on a Clue. If you press both buttons on the clue as its booting up then it goes into calibration mode. My sensor was way off when I first got it so you may need to calibrate too. No docs yet unfortunately since I have more I want to add to that project https://github.com/endico/breathable

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode #320 LIVE in 20 mins! – Pi 400 Cyberdecks, Terrako and Dragon Eggs #3DPrinting #Adafruit https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

good morning / afternoon / evening and night folks!

[hard hollow]

☕️⚡️

[lavish patrol]

Afternoon 😀

16:00 GMT

Bleeps and Bloops incoming...

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[lavish patrol]

Good afternoon, @split gazelle 😉

[solemn cosmos]

Hello gents

[buoyant sable]

good morning !

[viscid bolt]

I made it on time!

[rocky reef]

Adafruit is open, safely ... and shipping orders at this time within 1 to 2 business days https://www.adafruit.com/opensafely

[viral sail]

Good morning.

[rocky reef]

Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[gusty wedge]

Hi from CR, N&P

[rocky reef]

Cyberdeck Plate Learn Guide
https://learn.adafruit.com/cyberdeck-plate/

Cyberdeck Bonnet for Raspberry Pi
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4862

Raspberry Pi 400 Kit
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4796

[lavish patrol]

Cool acrylic.

[rocky reef]

3.5in PiTFT
https://www.adafruit.com/product/2097

AMG8833 Thermal Camera

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3538

[shell mason]

CyberDeck styled holder nice

[rocky reef]

Learn Guide Project Code: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides

[wise iris]

what was that cool-looking demo code, again? I missed it when you said before

[shell mason]

new mosaic 8 filament palette is cool tool to make multicolored prints

[rocky reef]

https://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/hollywood-technodrama.html for the hollywood script

[wise iris]

ah! thanks!

[split gazelle]

the engraving came out super good

[shadow epoch]

With the cyberdeck plugged in, I can tilt it a couple of degrees back and forth, does anyone know what is moving inside the 400? Should I try to not tilt it too many times?

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[upbeat coral]

@shadow epoch Mine move a little as well but, it appears to be the CD not the Pi.

[rocky reef]

Stemma QT Cable

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4399

[lavish patrol]

Hats and bonnets are different things?

[rocky reef]

Fusion 360 Tutorial – Panel Mounting External Parts – Layer by Layer
https://youtu.be/SAW89g5WZL4

[shadow epoch]

Thank you for making these plates! Looking forward to making one. thanks @upbeat coral

[rocky reef]

Cyberdeck YouTube Video
https://youtu.be/Ca_c7-tlUcc

[upbeat coral]

@lavish patrol Hats Full size Pi, bonnets Pi Zero

[lavish patrol]

Thanks.

[upbeat coral]

You are welcome @shadow epoch . Printing one for CD Hat at this time.

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @hard hollow and @rocky reef 👍

Now I know. 😀

[split gazelle]

+1 for ponoko

[shell mason]

CyberDeckHub

WhoAmI

[upbeat coral]

You get what you pay for. Ending today is a great Deal on an Ender3 X.

[shell mason]

that would be nice quezzing game

[lavish patrol]

Spacers!

[rocky reef]

M2.5 Hardware Kit https://www.adafruit.com/product/3299

[upbeat coral]

Darn it. It's already tomorrow at Banggood. 😦

[shell mason]

what is pi extendable and can be 2 sizes

[gusty wedge]

For playing bzflag 🙂

[viral sail]

I guess we'll need a PowerBoost 3000. 🙂

[shell mason]

PowerBoost 7000

[upbeat coral]

"Cuties" Mandarin oranges come in a crate (at least here in SC) that has some very nice and thin plywood.

[lavish patrol]

PowerBoost 1 Million

[charred mason]

Hello everybody!

oh, the cyberdeck boards look so nice!

[upbeat coral]

There are some "Frames" om Thingiverse fot the Pi400 that might be a solution. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4737810

[shell mason]

easter week we are in

[gusty wedge]

Looks like a Fabergé, so shiny.

[shell mason]

those Dragon eggs from GOT

and it stopped on community makes

[upbeat coral]

Where'd they go?

[solemn cosmos]

echo echo

[hard hollow]

almost there

[solemn cosmos]

hi again

[rocky reef]

wirecast crash

[ivory kiln]

welcome back 🙂

[lavish patrol]

SN11 problem. 😄

[charred mason]

Dejavu Hi!

[shadow epoch]

welcome back

[shell mason]

@lavish patrol yeah SN11 what crash thing suddenly

[lavish patrol]

It went boom 😄

[whole flint]

w00t! My 10 minute wait time is up. Hi all!

(I'm Mr. Petielicious in the youtube chat)

[lavish patrol]

Pernickety? 😄

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow for another great show. See you all tonight!

[whole flint]

Yes, thanks!!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, guys. 😀

No problemo.

[split gazelle]

great show guys!

[solemn cosmos]

Bye

[upbeat coral]

My thanks to YOU. Till T'nite

[hard hollow]

thanks folks!

[gusty wedge]

Thanks, great show.

[shadow epoch]

thanks!

[split gazelle]

good evening folks

[nova totem]

Good evening all!

[glad mortar]

hey

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful folks!

[acoustic crescent]

hello folks

[viscid bolt]

Good evening

[gaunt plume]

Hello

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[tulip canyon]

Hello High-fives to all 👋

[haughty quiver]

https://streamyard.com/5aje9jdifp

Hi all, please come on in, the water's fine!

[sage aspen]

Hello folks 👋

[clever summit]

Good late night!

[shell mason]

it works

twitch is live

[spiral vale]

hey fronds

[cinder wind]

hello!

[glad mortar]

hi

[autumn turret]

Good evening/morning/night/afternoon/time of son and/or moon where you are!

[cinder wind]

or do you have a show tomorrow? prank!

[clever summit]

Hi Hugo and Timon

[autumn turret]

In French, "April Fool's" is "Poisson d'avril", which translates to "April's fish". So... something fishy?

[acoustic crescent]

oh dang 😦 get better soon bill

[glad mortar]

dang, wish you well bill

[autumn turret]

Get well soon @pearl shoal. The community's all pulling for you and sending positive vibes ❤️

[nova totem]

Get well soon @pearl shoal

[upbeat coral]

Get well soon Bill.

[split gazelle]

get well soon @pearl shoal

[gaunt plume]

get well soon @pearl shoal

[cinder wind]

Hi Kevin, Hi Lydia!

[waxen thistle]

That project has me spinning in circles! Also, Pluto is jealous 🙂

[sage aspen]

Get well soon @pearl shoal

[autumn turret]

Great looking project Lydia! Gotta show dad a few tricks! 😉

[charred mason]

Hello everybody!
get well soon @pearl shoal

[alpine nova]

glad you're doing better @pearl shoal get well quick!

[cinder wind]

that orrery looks so cool!

[nova totem]

That looks really cool

[gaunt plume]

wish i had a rp2040 back in science-fair days

[pearl shoal]

Thanks everyone. Please go get a vaccine!!

[autumn turret]

Got my first one just today a few hours ago

[cinder wind]

hey @pearl shoal glad you could make it for the show!

[clever summit]

We have to wait til June for my age group,,,,

[split gazelle]

fantastic work @gaunt plume

[glad mortar]

really cool!

[upbeat coral]

Anybody >13 in SC.

[open girder]

@pearl shoal has already designed a VaccineWing for feather and has a PR open to add it to CircuitPython 🙂 good to see you here bill, everyone is sending their thoughts and healing vibes through the ether to ya

[autumn turret]

They just opened up to "everyone" in Texas, but I also fell in a higher risk group

[nova totem]

Neat @gaunt plume I just was doing something with Adafruit IO today (which was still fast to do) but this would be even easier

[clever summit]

As a programmer I must object to your no programming approach! 🙂

[autumn turret]

That's awesome @gaunt plume

[pearl shoal]

Don’t think I’m the one with that wing though

[gaunt plume]

ty all

[gaunt plume]

cant wait for you to try it out, soon 🙂

[alpine nova]

i love knobs

[shadow epoch]

It's so cute!

[odd stream]

I so miss those days.

[sage aspen]

😄

[autumn turret]

"Sorry mom, I think I misplaced it. No, you can't come over and help me look for it!"

[pearl shoal]

Thanks @low fractal

[acoustic crescent]

more like "sold out" vs "in stock" xDDDD

[autumn turret]

Literal hack!

[split gazelle]

lololol

[autumn turret]

Very clever @low fractal

[clever summit]

Ha, that is clever!

[waxen thistle]

"Hack"saw.

[nova totem]

I loved when I saw this on twitter

[alpine nova]

that's cool

[clever summit]

Also, guarantee is void.

[grand tusk]

Oh the humanity

[alpine nova]

doesn't the chip look for the end of those traces?

[cinder wind]

haha @low fractal literally a "hack" with a hacksaw!

[waxen thistle]

@clever summit If I don't violate at least three warranties in a day, I haven't succeeded 😉

[autumn turret]

We void warranties for a living
😎

[glad mortar]

haha I love this so much!

[nova totem]

That's amazing @split gazelle. That's so cool

[glad mortar]

great idea @split gazelle midify all the instruments!

[autumn turret]

Very cool @split gazelle. Was JUST about to say, MIDI controlled!

[waxen thistle]

That is wicked awesome @split gazelle

You're totally allowed to toot your own horn with this project!

[charred mason]

Awesome @split gazelle !!

[autumn turret]

Great engineering and design. So clever

[inner spade]

Digital digits (fingers)! Nicely done, @split gazelle

[split gazelle]

thanks everyone!!

nice @cinder wind

[waxen thistle]

That's a nice, low-cost alternative to the Hakko Omnivise (about a $50-75 item that's awesome for holding odd-shaped circuit boards).

[spiral vale]

heat some magnets into the base of that vise!

[waxen thistle]

https://hakkousa.com/omnivise-pcb-holder.html

[thin vessel]

you could easily print with a recess to put a magnet in

[split gazelle]

looks amazing @glad mortar !

[drifting arch]

@glad mortar I NEED

[low fractal]

grabby hands WANT.

[nova totem]

that looks really cool, those compute modules are so neat

[waxen thistle]

giant palm pilot 🙂

[clever summit]

Whoooo! That is neat!

[spiral vale]

different heights of the 3d-print vise would be awesome too

[wispy linden]

@glad mortar 😍

[cinder wind]

thanks!

[upper sandal]

drocsid\ti.urfada\\:ptth

[autumn turret]

Very nice @glad mortar! That's quite device!

[thin vessel]

could probably make it modular, so different heights would be just swapping pieces

[spiral vale]

CM4 Giant Blackberry!

[digital crescent]

any tips on soldering those compute module high density connectors?

[alpine nova]

@cinder wind in my dream of building a custom device for controlling my live video mixing i never considered the eurorack style but now i see how i might add modulated autonomy

[drifting arch]

@digital crescent hot air or reflow oven...and get a solder paste stencil

[cinder wind]

Piunora! https://www.crowdsupply.com/diodes-delight/piunora

[digital crescent]

Yeah, I've managed to still mess it up.

[cinder wind]

here's the 3d printed vice I showed https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4799068

[civic sphinx]

is the live ask an engineer happening today?

[drifting arch]

@digital crescent I've made 2 boards...and used 10 of the connectors...they are NOT easy..

@glad mortar Is it possible to buy from EU? I'm in Sweden...

[mellow thunder]

That was way 😎

[nova totem]

It will be after Show and Tell

[glad mortar]

@drifting arch yes CS ships all over the world 🙂

[mellow thunder]

@civic sphinx yes after show and tell

[cinder wind]

Eurorack format is really fun. And there are some video modules too, if you want to do some algorithmic video hacking in hardware

[split gazelle]

super cool Daniel

[drifting arch]

@glad mortar I was just hoping to save on shipping over the oceans... for environments sake.

[autumn turret]

That looks really nice @acoustic crescent. Great job!

[raw iron]

When will ASK AN EGINNER Start?

[acoustic crescent]

this is the short tweet video: https://twitter.com/chendaniely/status/1376005811017814019

Dⓐniel Chen 🐍🏴‍☠️ (@chendaniely)

Got a proof of concept bluetooth macropad working for #Procreate. Using an @adafruit feather and #circuitpython :)
Currently 2 buttons for +/- 5% brush size 🤗

Support my (non-existent) Etsy shop 😂 https://t.co/yCyhz1hcHs

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[light stump]

iPad interaction was a cool demo!

[glad mortar]

yea thats fair, though in todays age thats hard to avoid :/
It will eventually be available on Adafruit and hopefull also Pimoroni

[drifting arch]

My heart skips a beat when I hear 'next up is Mark' 😄

[robust horizon]

@raw iron looks like show & tell will wrap up soon, ask an engineer will start after that

[raw iron]

Ok

[split gazelle]

looks great @nova totem ! great to see the progress every week

[autumn turret]

Great wrap-up to the project @nova totem. Awesome seeing the week-to-week progress!

[raw iron]

The colored text is really cool

[drifting arch]

@glad mortar I guess I'll wait until digi-key or mouser get it....as I order from them anyway

[viral sail]

Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[glad mortar]

heh yea CS is essentially Mouser 🙂

[nova totem]

Thanks @split gazelle and @autumn turret !

[clever summit]

Thanks JP

[autumn turret]

Thanks for the host @haughty quiver, great having your Q&A

[raw iron]

Ask an eginner is starting now i think

[strange mantle]

you could ask the driver what their favorite color is and set it 🙂

[split gazelle]

great projects everyone! and great job hosting @haughty quiver !

[haughty quiver]

LOL thanks, so many great projects I forgot to look at the clock!

[nova totem]

That's a great idea!

[glad mortar]

thanks @haughty quiver was a great stream!

[haughty quiver]

Thanks everyone for coming by!!

[nova totem]

Great show and projects everyone

[raw iron]

Good job @haughty quiver

[tulip canyon]

Great job everyone. Might have to go back to an hour show!

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 3/31/2021 LIVE! https://youtu.be/uMTWg6LtRAA

[glad mortar]

I assumed its always an hour, I would have speed up otherwise, sorry 😄

[clever summit]

I loved the cut off 2040!

[autumn turret]

For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the Q&A JP had with the guests about the projects

[charred mason]

those are really nice boards @glad mortar

[civic sphinx]

Is there anyway to upload code from makecode to the CPX via ipad? I have a dongle to plug in the USB but is there a way to the drag and drop?

[glad mortar]

thanks @charred mason !

[delicate fractal]

I liked that opening track. Was that also bartlebeats?

[autumn turret]

I may have missed it, do you have a link @glad mortar ?

[glad mortar]

https://www.crowdsupply.com/diodes-delight/piunora @autumn turret

[autumn turret]

CRIKEY! @pearl shoal is Santa? That explains. SO. MUCH!

[raw iron]

Hey @proper trench

Get will soon Bill

[split gazelle]

good vibes @pearl shoal

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/opensafely

[slow spire]

Hi, all!!

[waxen thistle]

Hey @slow spire!

Oh Wiha makes some slick tools. Really high quality stuff.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4854

[loud gust]

💖💖💖 sending love to Bill and family!!

ohhhh top secret projects 🙂

[civic sphinx]

where can we ask a question for the ask an engineer

[autumn turret]

Right here's the spot 🙂

[waxen thistle]

We're at the end of the second act of a three act play. We're making progress -- but now is not the time to take our foot off the gas. The harder we push our preventative measures, the quicker we can get through this.

[civic sphinx]

@askanengineer: Is there anyway to upload code from makecode to the CPX via ipad? I have a dongle to plug in the USB but is there a way to the drag and drop? the new iOS 13 allows you to plug in a usb to an ipad but i cant get it working -- any ideas?

[slow spire]

@pearl shoal Get well soon! 🤗

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[open girder]

@civic sphinx with the ipad and file xfer and the way makecode works, i think you cannot - but can for things like python code (code.py file, etc)

[civic sphinx]

Its for a kids project so need it to be makecode

[autumn turret]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4883

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4864

Those in stock*

*for now

[raw iron]

Awsome

I wanted a PICO but they wer out of stock

[haughty quiver]

Not at all, that's my bad!

[pearl shoal]

Thank you al for the kind words

[raw iron]

Get well soon @pearl shoal

[drifting arch]

In Zagreb, Croatia there is a scale model of the solar system covering the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views

[civic sphinx]

@haughty quiver found this -- https://forum.makecode.com/t/circuit-playground-express-on-mobile-devices/799/18. any thoughts? trying to use ipad with makecode and using usb dongle to get code onto CPX but failing

[raw iron]

I know everything is out of stock 😦

[autumn turret]

Morale and positivity is in stock, in spades!

[raw iron]

I am working on makeing rocket computerse and i will get some parts from Adafruit

[autumn turret]

Bullish, anti-fragile, whatever you call it, it's synonymous with "awesome"

[drifting arch]

adaptable

[grand tusk]

Hope the drawer was anti-fragile.

[split gazelle]

ohh pulling in the pocket operator, very nice

[waxen thistle]

That's a very cute baby Korg

[proper berry]

It's a Korgi

[delicate fractal]

When you start a livestream late, and watch it at 1.5x to catch up, everyone sounds a little dopey when you finally do catch up.

[autumn turret]

Korgibitty!

[cinder wind]

so hopefully we'll be able to Arduino upload to UF2-compatible boards without BOSSA soon?

[delicate fractal]

blame it on BOSSA now-a.

[proper berry]

He doesn't show where you pull it off and bend 4 pins on one end, then curse. That's how I usually do it.

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

https://www.adafruitdaily.com/2021/03/30/python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-linux-30th-anniversary-and-more-python-adafruit-circuitpython-micropython-thepsf/

[proven crow]

Where do you get your PCBs from?

[hot frigate]

Tangential question is how are they different?

[glad mortar]

I got started with Linux with the first Raspberry Pi 🙂

[autumn turret]

Another good place ot get started with Linux - get a RPi Zero W and a MicroSD card

[glad mortar]

time flies, that was ~9 years ago now..

[autumn turret]

If you have a keyboard & mouse, and either a monitor or TV, you've got all you need

[slow spire]

Another place to get started with Linux/*nix is the macOS terminal, or a virtual machine on a Mac or PC

[autumn turret]

or WSL in Windows

[lilac tusk]

WSL is handy

[dim knot]

But do they hit the corner?

[strange mantle]

@proven crow oshpark

[waxen thistle]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[glad mortar]

btw here a tiny demo using the Pi as mass storage device for CircuitPython/Blinka 🙂

[shell mason]

Expansion pack for Cyberpack sounds so good

[delicate fractal]

Did they make it too easy? Are they going to put the ML experts out of work? 😄

[loud gust]

yayyyy lobe!!! 😄 😄 😄

[strange mantle]

@proven crow also checkout these desk of videos:
https://youtu.be/mTfs6kayQTc Using JLCPCB for prototypes
https://youtu.be/iLxHpdRZJNA Panelizing production PCBS and ordering from JLCPCB

[loud gust]

lol we'll always prolly need data scientists for suuuper custom and industrial models, but lobe is AWESOME for maker projects and prototypes

[autumn turret]

And not a bad starting place to learn and see "Is this for me?"

[upbeat matrix]

stick person preschoolers are super cute!

[grand tusk]

Cyberdeck looks so cool!

[haughty quiver]

In that forum post I was trying to use the CPX as a USB HID device on the iPad, not get code onto the CPX via the iPad.

[delicate fractal]

MrLadyAda has mentioned a few times that he's received complaints that adafruit's products make programming embeded devices too simple. I just riffing on that.

Those stick figures are awesome!!

[rancid depot]

just amazing silkscreen design!

[waxen thistle]

"I'd like to complain you're making it too easy to fall into the pit of success."

[glad mortar]

oh that plunger for the solderpaste is nice

[autumn turret]

Erin's always got such awesome projects. And loved the vibe on teh audio for this one!

[charred mason]

Love the Johnny Mnemonic references

[haughty quiver]

@civic sphinx I really would love for it to work doing MakeCode on an iPad and then transferring it to the device but as far as I know it's still not possible.

[autumn turret]

The world's cutest, most adorablest, lethalest smore maker & heating plate

[civic sphinx]

aww man could i help somehow

[strange mantle]

hmmmm....a cute little fan? maybe that's what i've been doing wrong with my smd soldering...

[civic sphinx]

woukd be cool to see makecode have bluetooth too so you dont need plug

[civic sphinx]

woukd be cool to see makecode have bluetooth too so you dont need plug

[robust horizon]

hopefully we can get the pyruler pico footlong sometime soon

[hot frigate]

I was just trying out make.playpiper with my Feather RP2040, and it fried when I pressed the bootsel button. 😦 Used this last week.

[robust horizon]

does rp2040 have touchio?

[cinder wind]

https://circuitpython.org/board/raspberry_pi_pico/ shows that touchio is built-in but I'm not aware of an example that shows it

[nova totem]

I totally remember Active!

[waxen thistle]

Wiha, Wera, Engineer, Knipex, Hakko, Xcelite ....all excellent brands.

[alpine nova]

looks like a ketchup/mustard dispenser

[upbeat coral]

My Insulated High Voltage tools use that color scheme.

[waxen thistle]

Ok, serious props to Wiha for labeling their 18650 batteries as "protected". Very, very few folks do that.

[alpine nova]

do they ever make you hungry?

[autumn turret]

I was thinking the old Windows 3.1 "Hotdog Stand" theme

[fickle umbra]

HAH, Wiha's US site is sold out

[upbeat coral]

@alpine nova not hungry but nervous. I have a dislike of High Voltages

[alpine nova]

understandable

[echo canopy]

Question for the show: Back in December you featured the NRF PPK2 on EYE on NPI ... seems to be in super high demand

do you have any other suggestions in that price range ? For folks needing to start testing soon

I plan to still wait for the PPK2 but wouldn’t mind other suggestions for lower voltage and high detail current like the PPK2 .. Thanks

[waxen thistle]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/wiha/32490/13896061?s=N4IgjCBcoLQExVAYygFwE4FcCmAaEA9lANogDsIAuvgA6pQggC%2BT%2BCkpA7gJYAWAhgAIAzjWzYAJtipMgA

[cinder wind]

I just tried touchio on my Pico and it works, but requires a 1M pull-down resistor per input

[robust horizon]

Good to know @cinder wind !

[grand tusk]

That's a lot of ohms.

[autumn turret]

Digi-Key maybe?

[shell mason]

Digi-Ohm

[waxen thistle]

Three in stock at Digikey

[hot frigate]

That is way better than the one I got a Harbor Freight!!!

[glad mortar]

haha, what an oddball ad though

[autumn turret]

Harbor Freight is great for those "Need it one time" tool

[waxen thistle]

Wiha and Harbor Freight are two polar opposites 😉

[fickle umbra]

Can confirm. Wiha's price is higher than digikey

[autumn turret]

lol

[hot frigate]

Then I got the Wowstick. Meh. 4mm tips. Is this 6mm?

[dim knot]

Trinket M0 Powered NeoPixel Goggle Kit Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/2221

[proven crow]

Let's gooooo USB-C!

[haughty quiver]

I kinda want to eat those USB-C connectors.

[dim knot]

Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 with WiFi - 2GB RAM and 8GB MMC https://www.adafruit.com/product/4790

Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 with WiFi - 2GB / No MMC https://www.adafruit.com/product/4788

Edge-Launch USB Type C SMT Plug Connector - Pack of 10 https://www.adafruit.com/product/4932

[slow spire]

@haughty quiver Hint: try them with a Tide pod. yum.

[haughty quiver]

Sticking to this theme, that beefy, beefy Pi Compute Module should ship in a Chef Boyardee can.

[glad mortar]

interesting

[waxen thistle]

@haughty quiver You want to eat the USB-C connectors? Wait....comon. Lars, stop hopping onto JP's discord 😉

[wispy linden]

Pretty neat 🙂

[haughty quiver]

shhhhhhh

[autumn turret]

This isn't the Lars you're Larsing for 🦥

[fickle umbra]

@haughty quiver they're connectors, not corn-chips. Plz no confuse. Not healthy

[slow spire]

The "C" is for Crunchy.

[dim knot]

Microsoft Machine Learning Kit for Lobe with Raspberry Pi 4 4GB https://www.adafruit.com/product/4963

Microsoft Machine Learning Kit for Lobe - Pi 4 Not Included https://www.adafruit.com/product/4949

[hot frigate]

aka self driving cars are always 2 years away

[proven crow]

The P in Machine learning stands for positivity

[thin vessel]

fusion power always 20 years away, etc

[autumn turret]

Not if you ask @proven crow. Self-driving cars (with Alexa's help) were last week!

[sudden slate]

I love the Lobe kit!

[hot frigate]

I kicked Alexa out for all the lies

[proven crow]

Thanks, it's nice to be known in this wonderful community! 😊

[loud gust]

https://lobe.ai/

[waxen thistle]

I'm tired of Alexa trying to advertise to me....when I set a timer.

[fickle umbra]

OMG SAME

[sudden slate]

I know! I use Mycroft instead.

[autumn turret]

"It sounds like you're trying to set a timer. Would you like me to add a kitchen timer to your cart?"

The kit without the Pi4 looks liek it would fit nicely on a CyberDeck on a Pi400

[dim knot]

Kailh Switch Sockets for MX-compatible Mechanical Keys - 20 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4958

[waxen thistle]

I honestly forget what it was trying to peddle to me....I immediately asked "Alexa, do you understand the meaning of defenestration?"

[proven crow]

bY tHe WaY, iF yOu WaNt To SuBsCrIbE tO pRiMe?????

[acoustic crescent]

oh this makes you have how swappable swiches???

[autumn turret]

"I can't help you with that, but here's what I found on the web..."

[delicate fractal]

COOOOOL!

[haughty quiver]

yay to Kailh sockets

[ionic sundial]

RP2040's are in stock 😄

[robust horizon]

The sockets alone (with no plate) are also pretty unsatisfactory with wider keys like tab, etc, because it is so much easier to press "off center" and pop the keyswitch out of the socket..

[haughty quiver]

I'm going to design a switch plate for the keyswitch FeatherWing that'll hold them in place and screw into the mounting holes.

[dim knot]

Translucent Keycaps for MX Compatible Switches - 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4956

[sudden slate]

The NeoKeys will be in my drawer soon, I hope....

[robust horizon]

plates are very feasible to either 3d print, laser cut, or I suppose mill

[proven crow]

He's right! This genius is right! If I had one ounce less self control, they would be on the way...

[dim knot]

NeoKey FeatherWing - Two Mechanical Key Switches with NeoPixels https://www.adafruit.com/product/4979

[slow spire]

@haughty quiver I'm holding out for a breakout that includes keyswitch and keycap, even if it's just “Also add … to my order”

[haughty quiver]

haha @slow spire nice and easy

[sudden slate]

I agree @slow spire

[slow spire]

@haughty quiver I almost ordered this breakout the other day, and came this close to pressing submit order when I realized… there's no keyswitch.

[ionic sundial]

unfortunately I don't have any self control... (this is my second Adafruit order this week, don't tell my fiance)

[autumn turret]

Aren't those already available, called "keyboard"? 😛

[autumn turret]

Don't tell the fiance what? 😉

[slow spire]

@autumn turret But I'm building a keyboard FOR ANTS.

[haughty quiver]

@autumn turret sounds interesting, this so-called "key board"

[fickle umbra]

@open girder Not quite an engineering question but a product question: Would a PiOLED (3527) fit under the lid on the Adafruit Pi 2/3 case (PID 2257)?

[robust horizon]

I think I saw a couple of touchscreen controllers

[nova totem]

Will you ever sell the reverse mount neopixels like you can buy the individual regular neopixels?

[rancid depot]

Q: @open girder How can the adafruit mini IR remote control be used with the CPX and makecode? I tried many ways to get infrared receive to work in Makecode but no luck. The remote worked fine with CircuitPython on CPX. Any advice? Thanks.

[robust horizon]

@fickle umbra those screens can sit flush with the tops of the expansion headers, so I think mmmaybe? but I haven't tried it myself

[haughty quiver]

I'm very much in love with this Compute Module Pocket C.H.I.P. thing!

[autumn turret]

I saw that 240x240 TFT w/ SD card. I likey!

[sudden slate]

Is RP2040 support in Arduino now?? I can't get the new IDE.

[proven crow]

Whaaaaaaaat? That's sooooo cool!

[waxen thistle]

I miss physical keyboards on phones, that gave me such Blackberry vibes.

[slow spire]

Oh nice with compute module!!

[autumn turret]

Just needs the TFT, which aren't on planet earth anymore. Dolphins must've taken them all with them

[dire zinc]

The 'Adafruit MCP2221A Breakout - General Purpose USB to GPIO' has been out of stock for a long time and my digikey order for them date keeps getting extended. Will you be making more?

[haughty quiver]

@glad mortar is the Compute Module ninja

[glad mortar]

hehe

I do get a ton of requests around it lately 🙂

[slow spire]

@sudden slate I don't think there is official support, yet for Arduino. But Ladyada demoed a cool independent effort.

[autumn turret]

How can @glad mortar be a ninja, if people can see and ask questions? 🤔

[sudden slate]

Oh, OK. I wondered though, with the RP2040 Connect coming out.

[robust horizon]

@sudden slate if yo go back to about minute 53 of the live broadcast you can see which github they were using with arduino

[lilac tusk]

Seems like a lot of people are making CM4+RP2040

[slow spire]

@sudden slate Circuit Python is working on it, though.

[delicate anchor]

Hello #Adafruit friends, glad to see you both healthy

[haughty quiver]

Only when he chooses to allow us to see and hear him...

[robust horizon]

https://github.com/earlephilhower/arduino-pico @sudden slate -- I haven't tried it myself

[sudden slate]

Thanks so much!

[lilac tusk]

Guess I should finish that up then 😅

[autumn turret]

Sounds like "once the student is ready, the teacher appears"

[haughty quiver]

ha

[lilac tusk]

Rafeki?

Did I spell that right

[ionic sundial]

Thanks!!

appreciate you guys a ton.

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌖

[split gazelle]

click click

[lilac tusk]

Rafiki*

[split gazelle]

thanks for a great show!

[fickle umbra]

Thanks Limor/PT

[cinder wind]

Thanks Limor & PT!

[robust horizon]

goodnight all!

[ionic sundial]

snagged 3x picos myself... 😄

[nova totem]

Great show! Have a great night

[glad mortar]

gn8, thanks for the stream

[autumn turret]

Thank you Adafruit team members and community. Stay safe, stay healthy and stay wonderful ❤️

[sudden slate]

Thanks so much!!

[proven crow]

big probably 😬

[charred mason]

good night everybody!

[sudden slate]

Awesome job!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for another awesome evening of shows @open girder! Special thanks to @haughty quiver for hosting S&T! And a more special thanks to everyone who shows, tells, helps, encourages, and makes this world a slightly better place through what you say, what you do, and how you act. 💜

[proven crow]

'Night everyone!

[autumn turret]

Fidget Feather

with those keycaps

[pearl shoal]

Great distractions tonight and thanks for all the kind words

[autumn turret]

Keep on fighting the good fight. This world needs folks like you!

[dim knot]

Night all!

[slow spire]

Night all! Glad you were able to join @pearl shoal ! Getting my vaccine in a couple days!

[lavish patrol]

Greetings all. 👋

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[spiral vale]

It's

[lavish patrol]

It is. 😄

[shell mason]

the park john park workshop

[waxen thistle]

Good afternoon everyone! Welcome to JP's Workshop [this april fool's prank is brought to you by Lars' Workshop]

[lavish patrol]

Hello, @waxen thistle

[shell mason]

on park workshop location we welcome @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

Hi there!

[lavish patrol]

This is a Lars free zone.

Hello, @haughty quiver

[shell mason]

Lars Park Andy

[lavish patrol]

"My name is Park. Lars Park."

Bleeps and Bloops...

[autumn turret]

Good time-o'clock to all you wonderful people

[shell mason]

Andy Lars Park

[inner spade]

bleeps and bloops on YT!

[spiral vale]

"hmmm... steve"

[cinder wind]

I'm not here

[lavish patrol]

Someone posted an Easter card through my letter box today. I'm like, "Easter? When's that?"

[mellow thunder]

Hey All!

[spiral vale]

I need 20 of those parts trays

[autumn turret]

Ahoy @mellow thunder

[waxen thistle]

https://countycomm.com/products/parts-tray-non-slip-armorer?_pos=3&_sid=6b0a93dee&_ss=r

[mellow thunder]

I #D print trays like that now..lol

[inner spade]

Winterbloom fashion today.

[waxen thistle]

[you can enable back-in-stock notifications!]

[mellow thunder]

*3D

[autumn turret]

That's clever of you JP, feature products that are already out of stock, rather than making them sell out while you talk about them! 😛

[mellow thunder]

urgh

[waxen thistle]

https://jobs.adafruit.com

[autumn turret]

For 3D printing, some maker spaces and libraries have services you can use for a nominal fee

[spiral vale]

But what about the buttercream?

[lavish patrol]

That's what I want to know...

[spiral vale]

cupcake tease

[clever summit]

Who. Late to the party.

[autumn turret]

Who who?

[clever summit]

Who me.