I got your heart in the mail today!
#live-broadcast-chat
nova totem
deep scarab
I got your heart in the mail today!
Awesooooome! 🙂
viral sail
That's cool.
inner spade
Yay RTOS!
autumn turret
Good stuff @lofty mist!
mild furnace
Links to those RTOS episodes?
lofty mist
Good stuff <@!359350352891346954>!
Thanks! 😄
waxen thistle
Once again, time is wibbly wobbly
lofty mist
waxen thistle
Now that's a very presentable little tray
mild furnace
Speaking of burning out E-Ink displays... who has stress-tested E-Ink refresh times? Ada site says 3 minutes max.
autumn turret
asking the real questions: Which switches did JP choose? Find out in the workshop tomorrow!
split gazelle
those keycaps are sweet
waxen thistle
I know, right?
lofty mist
Cool! I need some "oh crap" custom keys for various video games 😄
grand tusk
No scam matrix.
autumn turret
Dang that setup looks sliiiick @haughty quiver
deep scarab
Nice. I'm a fan of nice clicky keys.
inner spade
Trevor's AR universe is amazing.
split gazelle
that looks fantastic
lofty mist
That's amazing! I love AR stuff 😄
waxen thistle
This is so nice.
deep scarab
Wow!
nova totem
That's really cool
grand tusk
Sweet
autumn turret
Woooow, that angling! So cool Trevor!
haughty quiver
So cool that tight tracking!
waxen thistle
autumn turret
Wish there were an AR app for Android 😿
grand tusk
lol
deep scarab
Dude, I am digging the crow wings! Yes!
autumn turret
OMG! I could totally dress up as a Wizard of Oz flying monkey for halloween! Oh snap I need a 3D printer
waxen thistle
That tracking on a consumer phone is almost as good as Jarvis when Stark was prototyping the Iron Man suit.
autumn turret
Hmmm, maybe Stark's suit runs CP?
waxen thistle
Quote the Raven -- 3D Print some more!
nova totem
I have so many crows around here I should try to see if I can train them
somber rain
AR app looks brilliant!
haughty quiver
LOL
somber rain
Love to have the AR app for my Android.
autumn turret
"Who wore it best?"
lofty mist
Twinsies 😄
autumn turret
lol
waxen thistle
Great minds think alike 🙂
lofty mist
OK...you win with DMA. Well done! 😄
autumn turret
Which board is that @rapid hornet? RP2040 feather sample?
proven crow
I need to know!
haughty quiver
No @lofty mist I heard that @rapid hornet just has someone offscreen turning the LED valve in time with his talking.
rapid hornet
Which board is that <@!252717193496756235>? RP2040 feather sample?
Yup, feather rp2040 prototype
autumn turret
Very nice
rapid hornet
OK...you win with DMA. Well done! 😄
tasks are neat too! I don't have an active serial api going
lofty mist
Nice work with the STM32 Bluetooth module!
ashen hound
Nice work with the STM32 Bluetooth module!
thanks!
lofty mist
80s bling! 😄
grand tusk
O M G
proven crow
😮
autumn turret
*le gasp*
lofty mist
Shut up and take my money.
waxen thistle
Lo-fi smart watches
autumn turret
Smart-enough watches
deep scarab
That looks awesome, Joey! Cool about the SAM chip with a segment driver.
noble grove
How hard is it to port an Arduino library to a Circuit Python library?
autumn turret
So very nice
waxen thistle
woah sweet
viral sail
I like the celestial themes.
waxen thistle
I really love layered colors like that
strange mantle
@noble grove depends on the lib, easy ones could take under an hour, some may not even be possible
lofty mist
Those look great!
deep scarab
Nice work on those, Liz. They look great!
opaque hearth
Nice work Liz!
nova totem
@split gazelle those look great
autumn turret
That looks REALLY good @split gazelle! Wow
viral sail
Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.
waxen thistle
Thanks everyone for sharing! Y'all are awesome 
lofty mist
Thanks everyone! Good projects and good inspiration 🙂
split gazelle
thanks folks 😺
nova totem
Great job everyone!
split gazelle
and fantastic projects everyone!
noble grove
@strange mantle It's for a RTC board.
autumn turret
Every single week, I'm blown away with the cool stuff everyone's making!
noble grove
RV-1805
deep scarab
Super good projects this week! Thanks for sharing, everyone.
robust horizon
drat it, I was going to make a quick bite before S&T but then I missed the whole thing. I guess there are rewards to talking to your spouse over dinner too 🙂
waxen thistle
Life should always come first -- take care of yourself and those who matter. 🙂
open girder
ASK AN ENGINEER 2/24/2021 LIVE! https://youtu.be/NOf3lKPZYJ8
alpine nova
hi
robust horizon
She'd heated me up a veggie patty and everything
alpine nova
i'm finding it harder and harder to tear myself away from old timey computer show on twitch
autumn turret
She'd heated me up a veggie patty and everything
Sounds like a ruse to have you nearby because she wanted to spend time with you 🙂
waxen thistle
waxen thistle
I have a desk that has been at a post office in Rochester for over 45 days now. Last I heard, it wasn't paying rent 😛
alpine nova
hi @autumn turret it was nova
waxen thistle
alpine nova
an excellent episode about computer hacking from 1990
waxen thistle
autumn turret
Not the one with Cliff Stoll?
autumn turret
Ah yeah, watched that episode a few times. And read the book a few times too. He's such a cool guy
alpine nova
he is great
alpine nova
oh thanks!!!
autumn turret
And on YouTube, he shows up on Numberphile semi-regularly
alpine nova
oh cool
yea, that twitch channel is killin it with the old computer shows 24/7
i'm hooked
autumn turret
The MST3K channel is cool too
alpine nova
yea, i just told someone about that
my other fave is cathodetelevision
i told people in theoldtimeycomputershow to check out adafruit
waxen thistle
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Scott - 5pm ET Fridays
brazen quail
If you could start over with how Adafruit evolved, what would be the most significant thing you would change ?
alpine nova
good question
open girder
@brazen quail good Q, we'll answer at the endish
proven crow
QT Py with WiFi!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
alpine nova
yay
autumn turret
Desk of Ladyada is almost like a Top Secret for the Wednesday Top Secret
alpine nova
behind the scenes
haughty quiver
Don't do that.
robust horizon
eeew jp don't put that in your mouth
upper sandal
#canyoueatit
haughty quiver
Terrible idea.
waxen thistle
Yum.
alpine nova
lol @haughty quiver
autumn turret
"Tastes like chips"
grand tusk
bleh
inner spade
What does blu-tak taste like @haughty quiver ? Blueberries?
alpine nova
chicken
waxen thistle
haughty quiver
🫐
alpine nova
i was in fry's a couple weeks ago and it was dead
waxen thistle
I made it out to the one in Renton, WA twice about a decade ago.
alpine nova
it was always dead
autumn turret
It was dead a few years ago
alpine nova
they had some 3mm filament
lilac tusk
Lol
waxen thistle
Retail is hard.
haughty quiver
I'll miss Fry's.
lilac tusk
I had fries with lunch
alpine nova
clif stoll went to rqadio shack in that nova i just watched
haughty quiver
That's my Fry's, the Burbank one. 
autumn turret
I guess there won't be any more confusion between "Fry's" and "fry's"
alpine nova
i will too @haughty quiver but not as much as radio shack
autumn turret
The electronics store and grocery store
alpine nova
i went to the one in sacramento/roseville
oblique jay
I went into the San Diego one a month or 2 ago to buy three things I needed for my new laptop, they didn’t have ANY of them, there was only one guy working at the front, most of the shelves were filled with duplicates of the same item, and 1/2 of the store was closed off, dark, and empty entirely 😬 the peppy 80s music echoing thru the empty building made me feel like I was in a bad teen horror movie and that I was totally about to be killed in the most vicious way possible by some alien monster 😂 I ended up buying a USB cable just to be nice lol - I could tell it was coming 😬
alpine nova
they had already shut down the sac store
lilac tusk
Not a terribly large selection but it’s getting there
merry bear
The Microcenter in MN is always busy and the lady in 3D printers has been helpful.
fluid drum
I was hoping they would start bring back some Radio Shack stores. But then living in the middle of South Dakota its possible another store like that would never be near me...
waxen thistle
So long Frys, and thanks for all the fish.
oblique jay
Yeah, consignment is a mess 😢
lilac tusk
Radio shack is planning to open a handful of small niche stores
alpine nova
i would hit frys in sacramento often when going to sf bay area from reno and i could see decline over time
knotty pond
That alien Fry's is a quarter mile from my job
waxen thistle
The joy of serendipitous discovery.
lilac tusk
I think retail will come back, things that carry some level of nostalgia usually do
alpine nova
if radio shack is anything like it was originally, i would be thrilled
proven crow
I LOVE Microcenter
lilac tusk
if radio shack is anything like it was originally, i would be thrilled
They are trying
autumn turret
For retail, you need to have a "hook". Helpful or knowledgeable staff (MicroCenter), pricing, etc
lilac tusk
Fun electronics, electronics components
alpine nova
but radio shack in the end became a phone sales business
lilac tusk
That was their demise. The new owners are getting back to their roots
alpine nova
i hope they bring back nostalgia like the battery/month club
knotty pond
This Fry's would have 1 item per shelf. Very desolate.
autumn turret
I dunno @alpine nova , I hear nostalgia isn't what it used to be
alpine nova
haha
lilac tusk
Stores like Journey and Hot Topic oversold nostalgia for years.
knotty pond
The future used to be great
autumn turret
What's really odd about Fry's, is that it was key in the door shut down for good. No "Closing sale" or stuff like that
alpine nova
i got oldtimeycomputershow on in background and they're showing original apple campus rn
autumn turret
Texaco Towers?
alpine nova
that is nostalgia
lilac tusk
I’ve never been to a Fry’s or a MicroCenter
noble grove
@autumn turret If you're consignment only, it doesn't make sense.
alpine nova
yea @hugo where was that clearance sale
lilac tusk
Kind of sad because it’s right up my alley
ashen hound
I used to go to Microcenter crossing state lines. It is no longer possible
lilac tusk
MicroCenter might be more so nowadays
waxen thistle
I like how Adafruit takes so much time to curate the "best" of products for that price point. I'd have wasted 10x as much if I bought all the different versions to try them out.
autumn turret
absolutely
alpine nova
agreed @waxen thistle
edgy pilot
adafruit customer service is 👌
oblique jay
The big three hundo!! 💕
autumn turret
adafruit customer service is 👌
So's the community! ❤️
edgy pilot
🤟
alpine nova
i wouldn't know anything about electronics if it wasn't for adafruit
robust horizon
the cats don't care
edgy pilot
I am here hoping someone has IOT experience with Particle Argon and has moments to spare 🤣
autumn turret
The cats are a figment of our imagination
You might be well off checking with the #iot channel @edgy pilot
waxen thistle
Do you sit there in self-doubt, wondering....."Am I actually a cat?"
alpine nova
i do sometimes
edgy pilot
I Put a message in there, when someone sees it they'll help if they can 😄
for now I wait and see what the hullabaloo in here is
viral sail
Send CircuitPython to ALL the planets.
waxen thistle
CircuitPython on Earth, the Moon, Mars, and Rigel VII. Don't ask.
waxen thistle
oblique jay
Love the newsletter! ☺️ always some great info!
proven crow
What about a RP2040 board that is the same form factor as a STEMMA QT sensor?
waxen thistle
Forbidden fondue
alpine nova
i love the alt views of problem solving
robust horizon
I think the numbers say you can do 2 cascaded shift registers but I didn't test it
I don't think we can get to 3
knotty pond
witchcraft
alpine nova
there's been a lot of 7 segment led projects on instructables lately
7 seg will always be popular
i think
oblique jay
THE DISNEY PIT 😂😂
upper sandal
the cold never bothered them anyway
knotty pond
What camera do you use for those timelapses?
open girder
just an iphone
waxen thistle
oblique jay
If I could throw a question in, I’m curious about when the MatrixPortal will be back in stock, or if there’s another suitable display / microcontroller combo to default to do the “visible Co2 monitor” project ☺️ my friend just started teaching in a classroom and is interested in monitoring student Co2 levels ☺️
waxen thistle
grand tusk
For handwriting recognition on a small touchscreen: raspberry pi or would something smaller work?
languid minnow
Any idea about the price range for the Feather 2040 once is out?
knotty pond
Guiitar pedals are center negative 50% of the time
grand tusk
vernal mauve
Also bad if you wire your circuit playground upside down
was trying to do the neopixel strip with external power and oriented the board wrong and DC was backwards. Smoooookey.
oblique jay
Also bad if you wire your circuit playground upside down
Mmmmm! Ozone BBQ 😂😅
charred mason
I wonder if it will be enough for Pi projects. Maybe 2A to be in the safe side with some extra devices
Looks like a neat package
alpine nova
wow
vernal mauve
240v support as well...
alpine nova
unopenable
knotty pond
I need a 30A version of that
waxen thistle
proven crow
YES
dim knot
Adafruit QT Py RP2040 - Coming soon! https://www.adafruit.com/product/4900
lucid marsh
woot
haughty quiver
I'll DEFINITELY be putting that in my mouth.
charred mason
QT Py Pi
alpine nova
hahaha
edgy pilot
lmao mood
dim knot
Get Started with MicroPython on Raspberry Pi Pico - 2nd Impression https://www.adafruit.com/product/4898
opaque hearth
JP's ADA BOX LUNCH
alpine nova
oh neat!!!
knotty pond
infotainment
dim knot
Ultra-Slim Round Fingerprint Sensor and 6-pin Cable https://www.adafruit.com/product/4750
alpine nova
love that sensor
glacial anvil
Is RP2040 “faster” than other MCU platforms? Or is this hype over this microcontroller mainly due to the Raspberry Pi branding?
light stump
Next product series: JP and Lars’ Bento Box
alpine nova
with pcb sushi?
alpine nova
oh the creative visuals ideas are flowing
i been streaming a lot of live video mixing - i gotta work that in somehow
dim knot
Circuit Playground 200x200 Tri-Color E-Ink Gizmo - E-Ink Display + Audio Amplifier https://www.adafruit.com/product/4869
alpine nova
seaweed pcb would be cool
dim knot
Adafruit BMP388 - Precision Barometric Pressure and Altimeter - STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/3966
TPS62827 3.3V Buck Converter Breakout - 3.3V Output 2 Amp Max https://www.adafruit.com/product/4920
autumn turret
Just call it the "TPS Report"
alpine nova
i was just talking about tps reports!
charred mason
TPS with punch
oblique jay
Just call it the "TPS Report"
😂😂😂 “that would be greeeeeeat” ☕️😂
alpine nova
in the oldtimeycomputershow channel during that nova episode
autumn turret
Did you get the memo about the TPS reports, @alpine nova? I'll send you the memo about it
alpine nova
pc load letter!!
merry bear
What is a board header for SM connectors that the NeoPixel strips use? The SM connector looks to be wire to wire only.
autumn turret
When your TPS reports need more power to get current...
alpine nova
i use that printer smash clip in my video mix - i love it
autumn turret
So focus on your core business, delegate what you can?
alpine nova
that looked like a box of cereal
deep scarab
Yeah! People don't get small batch hardware. It's hard, but it can be done, and it's worth it because of the community.
light stump
Q. Any suggestion on a small touch display with 2 finger touch and gesture detection? 320x240 sized?
dim knot
I've been really happy with both Shopify and Tindie.
autumn turret
I swear, every time I hear "QT Py 2040" I think of a steampunk Sailor Moon/My Little Pony mashup happening around the year 2040
lucid marsh
I swear, every time I hear "QT Py 2040" I think of a steampunk Sailor Moon/My Li...
Cyberpunk!
ivory kiln
Q: Have you ever used the RageBridge V2 (PID 3567) in a project, & if so what was it? & what is it that impressed you so much about the Ragebridge V2 to put it in the Adafruit store?
autumn turret
Cyberpunk!
Is that what Cyberpunk is? So much for thinking I was original :/
oblique jay
Thanks for the answer ☺️☺️ I’m definitely diving deep into CircuitPython, great to know there’s a way to port the code 🥰 gets studying
alpine nova
i think cyberpunk is still very broad
lucid marsh
Is that what Cyberpunk is? So much for thinking I was original :/
Super not an expert but I think an OK rule of thumb is cyberpunk = steampunk in the future
alpine nova
it will likely breakdown into hundreds of subcyperpunk subsections
upper sandal
steampunk is a genre where modern technology equivalents are based on steam engines
lucid marsh
"several people are typing" I did a controversial thing
grand tusk
Maybe I should give punchcards a try.
upper sandal
that's decidedly a separate genre
brazen quail
Are any of your wireless modules FCC certified ?
lucid marsh
question for the stream: Is there an estimate on when wifi + i2c will be coming to the magtag?
alpine nova
steampunk is also viewed as futurism with a victorian/edwardian sensibility
knotty pond
Considering getting a used Pick and Place.
Is there some place I get trained that type of machine before committing?
alpine nova
lol used picknplace
echo canopy
Question: it appears ESP32/ 8266 has taken off at a much faster rate than LoRa, Do you see the same trends? Has LoRa reached it peak?
upper sandal
a broader genre is retrofuture, like the Fallout game, where future technology is based on old technology, not current modern technology
knotty pond
Huh.....Why is that?
half verge
Ah, I should have made my comment about PIO like the Propeller over here to not clutter up the Q&A, sorry... anyway, yeah, I was also thinking its kind of like the XMOS as someone just mentioned
knotty pond
intern at adafruit <@!767191787907317781>
goals
alpine nova
yay, great show
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔
lucid marsh
thanks!
waxen thistle
Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!
inner spade
Thanks!
alpine nova
thank you for all you do @open girder and co
lucid marsh
Made in america!
alpine nova
it's your timeless formula for success
ashen hound
🙂
knotty pond
w00t!
lilac tusk
‘Merica?
lucid marsh
heck yeah
lilac tusk
Also new Executive order looking into strengthening US semiconductor manufacturing 🥳
oblique jay
Woooo!!! Thanks so much!! Keep on rocking it ☺️☺️
cinder wind
am I just in time for the show? ohdangit
lilac tusk
Maybe in 4-6 years we will be doing twice our current production
lucid marsh
that's not nothin
lilac tusk
Just wait, I’m going to start a semiconductor company this year
In 4-6 years my products will be on NPI 🙂
lucid marsh
I just put some sand in my oven, I'm dogging your heels
lilac tusk
Ambitious I am 🙂
autumn turret
I just put some sand in my oven, I'm dogging your heels
Wow, shortcuts much? You're supposed to start with rocks and a rivulet of water to grind it down and end up with sand!
lilac tusk
🤣
lucid marsh
Wow, shortcuts much? You're supposed to start with rocks and a rivulet of water ...
Real pros start with an infinitely small point in non-space and wait for it to explode
lilac tusk
Idk how fast I could launch and scale a semiconductor company
lucid marsh
depends on how fast you can get a few billion dollars I'd guess
lilac tusk
Probably be lucky to launch my first product by the 2 year mark
autumn turret
Does that include design, or using an open-source/licensed one?
autumn turret
I'm sure you can do it
lilac tusk
I’m looking at Skywater foundry share service
US based foundry
I’m starting my design stuff on an FPGA first for what I can
Cheaper to develop that way first
autumn turret
I'll take your word for it. Waaaayyy out of my depth there!
But interested none the less
lilac tusk
Then move on to a professional CAD software like Cadence Virtuoso
Which costs... $125k?
More than my current years salary 😆
autumn turret
But you know what? I love that you've got such a clear plan and vision.
So you've clearly thought about and through options for some time
lilac tusk
Thankfully I’ve taken a few classes which have given me some idea of how to do it
autumn turret
I guess those might help some, yeah
lilac tusk
Probably use a 45nm fab process since that will be far cheaper than other processes
lilac tusk
Yup
waxen thistle
Good afternoon all you excellent folks! Are we ready for Lars' Workshop?
viscid bolt
Count me in!
haughty quiver
That's what I heard too
spiral vale
greetings fellow kids
lavish patrol
TwitchBleep.
haughty quiver
That's my b-boy name
lavish patrol
Lol.
spiral vale
now wants to see JP breakdancing
lavish patrol
Lol
tiny axle
hi everyone
fluid drum
Hello
solemn cosmos
Hi John
tiny axle
hello @haughty quiver
shell mason
we are live
oak sequoia
Hi
ivory flax
hi
shell mason
TinyMacKeyboardUsb
lavish patrol
True, that.
cinder wind
TinyUSB is amazing. Thank you @hollow dust and others!
shell mason
i might hear but i hear some other noise too what could be similar
cinder wind
How do I write my own board.py file for circuitpython
You mean a custom board for CircuitPython? If so, there's a learn guide for that. I've done it, it's pretty quick if your board is similar to an existing one https://learn.adafruit.com/how-to-add-a-new-board-to-circuitpython
tiny axle
Chrome - when everything else on mac fails
autumn turret
Chrome - when everything else on mac fails
Or you just happen to have too danged much ram available!
tiny axle
You mean a custom board for CircuitPython? If so, there's a learn guide for that...
yeh but I don't want to recompile the whole of circuit python 😦
solemn cosmos
lol science in action
spiral vale
science fact!
inland apex
Are we going to have to put yucky coatings on Adafruit breakouts to stop JP sticking them in his mouth?
tiny axle
@inland apex lol
cinder wind
yeh but I don't want to recompile the whole of circuit python 😦
Not possible yet, but it's pretty easy to recompile. Don't need to understand much of the internals to get a build that works
dense marlin
Hi there
nova totem
a happy little via all on its own
tiny axle
was looking into it to get a AF lib working but gave up and just went for a direct reg read instead of using a lib.
waxen thistle
There are no mistakes, just happy little vias.
tiny axle
The little vias just link both ground plains
waxen thistle
Get out your soldering iron, time for a bravery test. Ploop! There we go, one beautiful solder joint. You have to make the sound too. Ploop!
Remember this is your world, you can make it anyway you want.
amber sluice
lavish patrol
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own."
inner spade
Arriving a little late today... 👋
inland apex
If you like this and want to make something similar 40percent.club just released a version of the Gherkin mech designed for Pico
tiny axle
tiny axle
Are not the square pads all ground?
solemn cosmos
yes they are
waxen thistle
Thank goodness for generic Sony batteries for these panel lights.
cinder wind
I think you only need one of the digital grounds connected when using the Pico, so it's okay if you didn't connect them all
inland apex
Holy cow did JP just turn on the sun?
tiny axle
@haughty quiver Why buy the lights when you can make your own using only adafruit parts?
inland apex
Oh wait... you didn’t use a matrix for this? Old school!
Guess that’s fine given how many pins the Pico has!
tiny axle
I have 2 Picos and a third still attached to a mag I brought to give away but no one in the uk has asked for it 😦
inland apex
shrewd canyon
Where do you get your boards made and what do you use to design them, they are pretty nice 🙂
inland apex
This is the hardcore way to build keyboards 😆
cinder wind
@haughty quiver questions from Youtube:
- What did you use to design these boards?
- Where did you get the boards made?
tiny axle
@shrewd canyon manufactured by JLCPCB, you can use Fritzing, Kicad or JLC's own online software
shrewd canyon
thanks 🙂
tiny axle
Easyeda!
cinder wind
I think these specific boards were designed in Fritzing
tiny axle
@shrewd canyon I use fritzing for quick designs the move to Easyeda for more complicated and panalised pcbs
shrewd canyon
@tiny axle thanks I've used Fritzing before but I'll checkout Easyeda
@cinder wind thanks 🙂
inland apex
I wish I knew you could use Fritzing. I went straight to Kicad and got overwhelmed
tiny axle
lol I looked at eagel and kicad and gave up on them as overcomplicated
you can export from fritzing to kicad and then import the kicad into easyeda for additional editing and panalising
solemn cosmos
lol I looked at eagel and kicad and gave up on them as overcomplicated
I agree ... I didnt realize Fritzing did that though ... i will need to go back and look
waxen thistle
Digital calipers are your best friend -- but they won't help you move to a new apartment, yet they're not going to ask for a $20 loan they'll never pay back 😉
shell mason
there is cool ones for sure
weak torrent
👋
tiny axle
Welcome mate
weak torrent
Nice cad of the pico
spiral vale
iGaging IP54 calipers on Amazon are solid and good.
waxen thistle
All joking aside, digital calipers are awesome. For $15-20, you can nab an excellent set of metal jaw calipers that do standard, metric, and fractional outputs.
It may not be as long-lasting as a Starrett or Mitutoyo, but the tech is good enough that for casual users, it's just as good at a mere fraction of the price.....which you might be able to measure....with the calipers....maybe....
solemn cosmos
iGaging IP54 calipers on Amazon are solid and good.
I have a Moock branded of the same IP54 and yeah i like em ... use the larger coin battery too compared to my other ones
spiral vale
For keyplates - there's some web-based tools for this as well (searches open tabs...)
tiny axle
I have 3 digital calapers and 4 analog because I keep missplacing them. I would love a starret but would be scared of loosing it
spiral vale
Keyplate Case and Plate builder: http://www.builder.swillkb.com/
this will generate cad output
weak torrent
What CAD package is this?
tiny axle
rhino
ivory flax
To run a cad program what model of PC are you running it on?
weak torrent
Looks slick, f360 user
tiny axle
@weak torrent how did you get on with eht newversion that has eagle built it? I just couldnt use it
weak torrent
I am still using eagle... lol
have not taken the time to switch and try it
Love how small this kb is, adorbs
shell mason
might be fit for grounded displays for it
tiny axle
I don't know why but the round caps make me think of the music popcorn
waxen thistle
weak torrent
Yeah those keycaps are pretty neat looking
waxen thistle
McMC is probably the best online catalog system I've seen, period.
weak torrent
teenage engineering style
tiny axle
lol, yeh used Mcmaster carr on a project and I live in the UK. Love how McMaster have the models for free
spiral vale
McMC is hard to search if you don't know what a particular part is actually named
inland apex
My daily driver keyboard is made from 3 layers of PCB... it’s like the opposite of what JP is building! 😆
shell mason
finally found round display on digikey
shell mason
bot might have caught something in the line when i posted digikey link
lavish patrol
Nubbins...
shell mason
yeah with 3 x on the product name
waxen thistle
Is using a LED to press a button a bright idea? 
tiny axle
cherry keys have hols for LEDS
waxen thistle
I think Scott's show is tomorrow this week.
Next week it's on Thursday -- or so I recall from last night's S&T.
tiny axle
Can we get the pcb files?
waxen thistle
Here's the link @shell mason was trying to post:
if use round display for buttons this could one display https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/e/electronic-assembly-gmbh/w128128-xxx-compact-low-power-round-oled-display
[I see why the bot caught it, totally no issue in this context.]
tiny axle
Cool, cant wait!
lucid marsh
I had the bot catch something I wrote for that same reason that was totally innocuous on my end. Better safe than sorry!
waxen thistle
@lucid marsh Just now? I don't see it in our logs...
lucid marsh
No a while ago
waxen thistle
Ah, gotcha. If that happens to anyone, let a mod know. We understand and will help y'all out.
tiny axle
6 simultanious keys? some of use still struggle with 2 keys!
autumn turret
There was talk and questions of n-key rollover on the Youtube chat
tiny axle
I buttons for taking screenshots on mac instead of pressing several keys
waxen thistle
Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-4 ---- copies selection to clipboard
shrewd canyon
this is awesome thanks 🙂
autumn turret
My keyboard has a 1-button for screenshots - KeyChron mechanical FTW!
lavish patrol
Scrint pea key...
autumn turret
Print & Preen key?
tiny axle
I use both cmd shift 3 and shift 4 for writing my books
lavish patrol
Keen screa pea
waxen thistle
@haughty quiver Scott is tomorrow this week. Thursday next week.
shell mason
scott is tomorrow John
waxen thistle
A sunny day and a magnifying glass is not a substitute for a laser cutter. 😉
lucid marsh
It's grimace themed to my eyes.
inland apex
I really want a laser cutter
autumn turret
btw, On macOS 11.15+, there Cmd+Shift+5 for a different screen capture deal
shell mason
like sun got effect of red plastic over the time
shrewd canyon
meat sock color
tiny axle
@shell mason sunburn pink
inland apex
@haughty quiver you can build the switch plate into the case! That’s really common in the mech world
shell mason
@tiny axle yeah not pink panther color
inland apex
(Then the PCB just hangs beneath held on by the switches)
lucid marsh
which PCB fab house do you use? If you didn't already say
inland apex
JLCPCB
lucid marsh
Ah cool good looking out thanks
tiny axle
@shell mason Vauxhall cars had a colour called sunburst red. it would bleach after 5 years so we called in sunburst pink
lavish patrol
I haven't seen Lars today. I think he's escaped, and is running loose out there somewhere. 😶
waxen thistle
Look behind you @lavish patrol
lavish patrol
Lol
tiny axle
@haughty quiver I recommend heading around to lidl and pick up the 4v screwdriver, perfect and cheep for that task
shudder i hate Lars
I would rather have a lifesize she gremlin in my room instead of a lars
autumn turret
Links to where to find Pico2040s these days? 😄
tiny axle
ebay 😛
waxen bough
Is the bottom of that last assembly going to leave the board/keys exposed through those holes?
autumn turret
Don't forget to check Youtube for Qs!
tiny axle
I still have one attached to an un opend copy of hackspace
shrewd canyon
@haughty quiver thanks this was brilliant to watch 🙂
manic vessel
Links to where to find Pico2040s these days? 😄
PImoroni in the UK appears to have good stock with a max order of 10.
autumn turret
Some keyboard are built on MicroControllers, like the Model01 by KeyboardIO
tiny axle
seen a few atmega keyboard kits
autumn turret
PImoroni in the UK appears to have good stock with a max order of 10.
So... 40GBP + 500GBP shipping? lol
lavish patrol
I guess you could say this project pushes all the buttons...
tiny axle
you can also use lego for for cherry mx keycaps
waxen thistle
This project pushes all the right buttons
inland apex
KMK DOES run on Pico
autumn turret
you can also use lego for for cherry mx keycaps
ahem it's LEGO. Coz you know... LEGO. They'll sue
lavish patrol
What about the left buttons? @waxen thistle ?
solemn cosmos
Thanks that was cool
upper sandal
some buttons always feel left behind
lucid marsh
thanks!
lavish patrol
Great show tonight, as always @haughty quiver 😀
tiny axle
*ahem* it's LEGO. Coz you know... LEGO. They'll sue
doesn't matter what case you use as long ans you dont add an S!
waxen thistle
@haughty quiver Thanks for another awesome workshop show!
tiny axle
thanks @haughty quiver
inland apex
Cheers @haughty quiver this was fun! I learnt some useful stuff about PCB design!
cinder wind
Very cool JP!
haughty quiver
Woo hoo thanks all!
upper sandal
Apple could call it legOS
shell mason
the round display found was from that round buttons @haughty quiver
lavish patrol
But that wouldn't be LEGitimate...
shell mason
andy you know all that encoder one so if it was button but also what you can move in keyboad to adjust sensitivity what show on screen right
lavish patrol
@shell mason That was a joke - a play on words.
shell mason
CandyAlloway right
lone steppe
Yay!
modern night
hello o/ hope you're well! 😄
lucid marsh
kitties!
nova totem
"A little late" and still a couple minutes before live time
modest vector
Hello Scott and all.
timid plover
link to google docs
simple fractal
"Stand by for action. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Thunderbirds are go!"
rapid hornet
timid plover
twitch says ask an engineer
simple fractal
i always forget that quote
viscid bolt
Hi Scott
simple fractal
i see objects are also here
timid plover
don't see the twitch chat
wind spoke
Cat activity behind you.
modest vector
At least for me it's FHD. And cats are front an center, perfect!
tame dew
Happy Friday @rapid hornet . Very pleased with CP 6.1.0.
modern night
you know the answer is yes
lucid marsh
Are they named after mistborn characters?
tame dew
And giant thank you to Patrick van Osterwick for the Wiznet5k wsgi server port. Looking forward to the PoE Feather Wing from CrowdSupply.
fossil musk
Greetings from Bellevue
tame dew
Experts love CircuitPython too
eager matrix
Finally got my Pi Pico today and I'm opening the box right now.
upper sandal
👋
simple fractal
I actually finally received 2xCM4 modules.
And I'm wearing my laptop specific glasses, so can't see my TV to watch clearly. but i can type real good now 🙂
tame dew
I finally got podman running on my Yocto Project built rpi4 image. Nearly got kubernetes running. Cannot wait for a proper m.2 NVME carrier for CM4 so I can create a Ceph cluster too.
smoky island
Would it possible theoretically to have a module that works in the background kind of like rotaryio or gamepad but is responsible for reading touch screen data and queuing it up to return to the foreground coded when requested?
tame dew
@rapid hornet any RISC-V port plans for CP (ala ESP32C3 or BeagleV)
Aha. So more like adding boards, not a port.
lucid marsh
would it be fair to characterize the pico as a more CP friendly cortex M0 than the SAMD21 boards from adafruit, given the increased RAM and clock speed?
tame dew
@rapid hornet considering putting Blinka/CP on BeagleV as GSOC project for BeagleBoard.org
wind spoke
Encrypted MPY?
upper sandal
it seems to me it lacks peripherals and favors using PIO, which is not always great since it's a shared resource ? or am I wrong in that regard ?
eager matrix
It's also super cheap and the RPI foundation is behind it.
eager matrix
Is it possible to use a QSPI PSRAM chip with the RP2040 like is used on the ESP32-WROVER and Teensy 4.1?
wind spoke
We are old. 😦
upper sandal
👴
tame dew
@wind spoke but still learning and doing cool things!
wind spoke
New product?
eager matrix
Does Adafruit have any plans for the new dual core asymmetric multiprocessing chips like the STM32H series and the similar chips from Freescale?
modest vector
Is Raspberry Pi releasing just stand alone chips for everyone? Or is this limited to only partner board-makers (like Adafruit)?
waxen thistle
Good afternoon all you wonderful folks objects!
wind spoke
The Brexit and import cost hurt me as much as importing from the USA.
clever summit
I had to switch from Amazon UK to Amazon DE... 🙂
waxen thistle
I hear ya on that -- for some items, it's getting noticeably more expensive.
tame dew
Wiznet5k library still requires bus_device library, which moved to core? As in native.
lucid marsh
now say "Tuple"
simple fractal
"Pimoroni stands for Pirate, Monkey, Robot, Ninja (Pi-Mo-Ro-Ni) and sounds like the name of an expensive Italian lager. It's pronounced Pih-mo-row-kne"
from their shop
tame dew
Tupelo
eager matrix
Is it Pie Pie-co or Pee Pee-co?
oblique jay
"Pimoroni stands for Pirate, Monkey, Robot, Ninja (Pi-Mo-Ro-Ni) and sounds like ...
I would totally buy that lager 😂 🍺
simple fractal
i vote giff
tame dew
PeaCoconut
wind spoke
EN-UK support in CP?
muted mesa
it started as a joke, iirc. 🤣
simple fractal
i think there was some mention about flash being expensive (on The Amp Hour interview)
"The flash is external (because of cost). They can create 20,000 die per wafer on 40 nm (!?!)"
wind spoke
Many people had project for the second Serial... where are those project now?
simple fractal
that is a great interview with the rp2040 devs.
hybrid kernel
Any hope of using a second serial on SAMD21?
wind spoke
Can we have a REPL on the second serial too?
small nimbus
does the 2nd USB port mean that you can use USB serial while testind Deep Sleep instead of simulating it
tame dew
Thank you again @paper peak for the second serial port solution!
lone steppe
On a side note, newer versions of CPython support breakpoint() instead of having to use import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
upper sandal
direcion, that light be valid spanish 🤔
autumn turret
Good afternoon Scott and Adafriends
clever summit
Evening Hugo
autumn turret
How's it going @clever summit
gusty wedge
But late, but hi from CR.
autumn turret
Buenas tardes @gusty wedge
clever summit
@autumn turret Was soldering up an ESP32 IR controller tonight, but had to stop because the live stream was starting.
autumn turret
Will you be announcing the availability of Feather2040 in the store during a deep dive again? Worked well for the MagTag!
lone steppe
😀
oblique jay
Heck yeah! Hack that hydration ☺️
tame dew
@gusty wedge how’s the SiFive board? Still healthy?
autumn turret
<@!361158808501747735> Was soldering up an ESP32 IR controller tonight, but had...
Priorities indeed!
timid plover
didn't lady ada mention dropping in on today ( on last wednesday )
gusty wedge
One of my favorite keyboards (small, but I'm used to it) is the XO keyboard... it's waterproof so I use it a lot in the kitchen my hand full of food stuff.
clever summit
🙂
wind spoke
Next Thursday will be good too... (for the Feather).
gusty wedge
<@342460018433589251> how’s the SiFive board? Still healthy?
Still taking care of it. This weekend it's going to be a long compile of glibc/gcc/llvm so it if I start now it might finish by monday afternoon.
wind spoke
Don't forget to say that next week it is Thursday.
And maybe summertime change in USA soon?
tame dew
Still taking care of it. This weekend it's going to be a long compile of glibc/g...
Compiling native on target?
autumn turret
March 14th
gusty wedge
Compiling native on target?
Yes. I might try using debian, which has a docker image now, so you can all run it on x64.
timid plover
During 2020, daylight saving time is in effect from March 8 at 2 a.m. (local time) to November 1 at 2 a.m. (local time).
tame dew
IDEs of March -1
tame dew
Yes. I might try using debian, which has a docker image now, so you can all run ...
We can cross-compile with Yocto Project. But you might want 40-core server class machine so it takes 1hr not 7-8
autumn turret
So what about during 2021? Someone taking the day year off at NIST?
autumn turret
Pfffft, reading. Too time consuming
gusty wedge
We can cross-compile with Yocto Project. But you might want 40-core server class...
Normally I do for the rest of the libs, but since this are quite important, I pull the expensive hw.
nova totem
(and I made a dumb mistake I have to fix today/tomorrow in countio oops)
timid plover
google says Daylight saving time 2021 in United States will begin at 2:00 AM on
Sunday, March 14
gusty wedge
@tame dew I do have a 100 xeon cpu cluster from Greencore that I use for this, but doing it native allows me to compile and test at the same time.
nova totem
Hope to get them both done this weekend! I may leave it till tomorrow when I'm more awake
wind spoke
Can I "link" the second CDC serial to a UART and do USB to Serial with a Pico?
autumn turret
UART meaning Serial coms?
oblique jay
Also very useful for DMX signals for stage lighting ☺️
tame dew
google says Daylight saving time 2021 in United States will begin at 2:00 AM on
...
Monday will be even more “special” than normal.
gusty wedge
@tame dew I used to think this was a small cluster, as I build with just a couple of scripts. But so it happens that it might be CR's largest, even larger than the government's 🙂
wind spoke
Was there a Mu meeting and will Mu be confused with the second CDC serial?
tame dew
Squirrel! 🐿
timid plover
that's valid ( to edit on github )
sterile forge
I am thinking about building a vt220 dumb terminal for use on my PDP11/23 emulation.
autumn turret
Fix typo in GitHub web editor. Commit & Merge, break build because line is now 1 char too long
Odds are double because if Friday afternoon
tame dew
I frequently fix minor things like that when merging PRs. Not really worth the cycles to have the submitter fix it.
But lol @autumn turret . I have absolutely done that.
cinder wind
Aside: I just did some tests with supervisor.runtime.serial_connected and it is True if you are connected to the board's REPL serial port but it is False if the board is connected to USB and doing HID/MIDI/MSD stuff. I cannot find something that says "USB host present"
tame dew
I frequently fix minor things like that when merging PRs. Not really worth the c...
Only double? I think it’s Triple Bock Friday.
simple fractal
pigfx
autumn turret
Only double? I think it’s Triple Bock Friday.
Oh yeah, last Friday of the month. Gotta throw the books off somehow!
modern night
At some point I should google this, but it keeps coming up--is bare-metal just assembled code, vs running through a kernel?
autumn turret
modern night
@simple fractal thank you
simple fractal
but i guess there could be a rtos. lol
modern night
that helps me envision it, thank you!
simple fractal
i had a manager who would key in bare metal stuff into an ibm370, from the console.
sterile forge
There is a emulator (SIMH) for the PDP11/23 that runs multi-user OS with 4 serial ports. I don't want to spend a large amount for each terminal. I was going to do it
autumn turret
Speaking of RTOS - Shawn Hymel from Digi-Key has been working on a Youtube serious about developing on an MCU with FreeRTOS
shrewd canyon
not sure if this was covered yet but with the pico how is the UART work going - I can see good results in the PR - would there be an eta on that?
simple fractal
lol @shrewd canyon, think thats being merged now/soon 🙂
tame dew
@autumn turret most of my Google searches take me to https://learn.adafruit.com/ anyway
shrewd canyon
👍
autumn turret
Google knows who the authority is 🙂
wind spoke
GIT magic again...
tame dew
@open girder has achieved remarkably useful priority in Google searches.
autumn turret
Shawn Hymel's playlist about working with RTOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F321087yYy4&list=PLEBQazB0HUyQ4hAPU1cJED6t3DU0h34bz
tame dew
I ❤️ the S3 bucket
eager matrix
Do you folks do automated unit test using a hardware fixture to emulate devices?
muted mesa
to the reflog! 😄
upper sandal
the age old question
autumn turret
Forget git fetch first?
upbeat matrix
I heard you say there were 3000 ports in your continuous build setup and I thought you were joking since I only see around 150 ports on circuitpython.org. But you just said it again. Is that true? wow.
autumn turret
Languages
muted mesa
@upbeat matrix yea. its 150 ports, each with a build for the translated versions.
autumn turret
Each translated language builds for each board
upbeat matrix
Oh, I see. Cool!
upbeat galleon
i don't think you want the remote's name there
tame dew
Do you folks do automated unit test using a hardware fixture to emulate devices?
@rapid hornet we need to talk about this and build system wishes
upper sandal
18 languages x 179 boards = 3222
upbeat galleon
ohh, because you have multiple remotes that have a branch with that name
autumn turret
Could be 17 languages if we removed "en_US" 😉
eager matrix
<@252717193496756235> we need to talk about this and build system wishes
I'd be willing to help with this. I'm pretty versed in a bunch of things.
muted mesa
@tame dew i worked on one last year, largely as a learning experience for me. it utilized RPi and Azure, but is large and clunky. 😄
tame dew
We can have a build system/testing session on Discord sometime.
autumn turret
I'd love to be in on that!
tame dew
I have done this as a career sideline for a looooooong time
eager matrix
Please LMK about this converstaion. I'd like to be involved.
autumn turret
I've done lots with unit tests of software, but am totally curious and intrigued about doing so with hardware
tame dew
@rapid hornet I didn’t mean today. Agenda item for the future...
tame dew
I've done lots with unit tests of software, but am totally curious and intrigued...
I can tell you 10,000 ways to do it wrong
muted mesa
i'm pretty sure i hit 9500 of them. ^
autumn turret
I can tell you 10,000 ways to do it wrong
Method #1 - Don't do it?
tame dew
Method #1 - Don't do it?
That was never in my Lexicon
simple fractal
we are diving deep into Git
autumn turret
I meant as in don't not test
waxen thistle
Loud and clear
timid plover
yes
simple fractal
lost me early on.
nova totem
yes
muted mesa
indeed. 👋 ladyada
modern night
heyo, yes we have audio
tame dew
Loud and clear
autumn turret
Loud & clear, 5 out of 5
upbeat galleon
yes
eager matrix
I've done lots with unit tests of software, but am totally curious and intrigued...
I did some cool thing using openOCD to unit test some DSP code to inject known vectors and read the result to verify the algorithms and it was really powerful. I was so happy to be able to verify this way.
upbeat galleon
👂 👂 👂 👂
tame dew
I meant as in don't not test
Absolutely. Turn that dial up to 1000
upbeat galleon
👁️ 👀👁️ 👀👁️ 👀
tame dew
Yay! feather! Dreams do come true.
simple fractal
let it go, lol
autumn turret
Sound like release during Deep Dive next Thursday!
muted mesa
@tame dew if you're really bored: https://github.com/physaCI & https://www.physaci.com/
i haven't touched it in forever...
(allows unit tests written in pytest on the circuitpython repo)
cinder wind
Aside: I just did some tests with `supervisor.runtime.serial_connected` and it i...
AsideAside: I found a hacky way to do "USB host connected" since supervisor.runtime.serial_connected is only True if connected to REPL serial. It uses storage.remount, e.g.
def is_usb_connected():
try:
storage.remount('/', True) # attempt to mount readwrite
except RuntimeError as e:
return True
return False
Awesomeness! Thank you
upbeat galleon
wow this is really exciting
muted mesa
@cinder wind that functionality could most likely be improved. it originated in the pre-TinyUSB days so could only really rely on the serial state.
tame dew
Awesomeness! Thank you
I have architected three test systems all based on pytest at this point.
nova totem
I just got my first real PCB I designed in the mail. I was thinking of using the RP2040 to try to make my first "processor" board (maybe after some other PCB tries)
eager matrix
It's awesome that you can use one Pico Pi to debug a second Pico Pi over SWD.
timid plover
muted mesa
I have architected three test systems all based on pytest at this point.
here are the dev tests i have for physaCI: https://github.com/sommersoft/circuitpython/tree/rosiepi_test/tests/circuitpython/rosie_tests
upbeat galleon
It's awesome that you can use one Pico Pi to debug a second Pico Pi over SWD.
yes! i was just reading this on the blog of the person who ported Fuzix to the pico
autumn turret
"That's all I got to talk about". But it's a tonne to take in and be excited about!
gusty wedge
Wuju, cortex party.
tame dew
here are the dev tests i have for physaCI: <https://github.com/sommersoft/circui...
You are speaking to my inner happy child
upbeat galleon
will they being sold in the UK, through pimoroni maybe?
waxen thistle
Thanks for joining!
gusty wedge
Thanks Lady Ada.
cinder wind
Nice to see you @proper trench !
eager matrix
The QSPI flash on the Pico has Chip Erase. I haven't checked yet because I just got my Pico but it seems like something that could be done over SWD.
timid plover
I got my vacination today ... ! 🙂
proper trench
👋
timid plover
( safeway pharmacy for the win )
upbeat matrix
Which state dcd?
nova totem
Hoping vaccines speed up in Canada soon...
waxen thistle
Where I'm at, there's little chance of getting a vaccination for several more months. Unless I get lucky and catch a cancellation-- then i'd be very unlucky as I wouldn't be eligible for a second shot.
timid plover
Kenmore WA
analog acorn
I'm in Redmond and I'm not eligible yet. Seems like it's taking quite a while even though my doctors are saying "you have nnn condition, you need to get vaccinated." Yay.
viscid bolt
I'm near Woodinville and get my second one on Thursday
eager matrix
I'm in Buffalo, NY and I'm eligible but demand is bigger than supply atm. My mom who is 84 is still waiting for supply to catch up.
analog acorn
I hope they get your mom vaccinated soon, @eager matrix
waxen thistle
@analog acorn I'm in a similar boat. Frustrating.
upper sandal
speaking of light sleep, since it basically enables to come out of time.sleep with a pin interrupt or something, shouldn't it be supported apart from deep sleep, in order to make it easier to have it on more ports ?
eager matrix
I hope they get your mom vaccinated soon, <@!626251055658958879>
Thanks, fortunately she doesn't go out much so there isn't a lot of risk.
lone steppe
I'm here! ❤️
tame dew
I’m contemplating writing a novel “Patience and the Pandemic Wall”
eager matrix
I’m contemplating writing a novel “Patience and the Pandemic Wall”
We gotta tear that wall down too.
tame dew
It might be a children’s book and have nothing to do with any of this reality.
Patience would be the heroine
analog acorn
It would be cool if you could create a "shared" hierarchy and have the build system just check if the libraries/modules need to be recompiled.
lone steppe
I'm not super clear about the connection between the flash generation and loading and ninja ... was there a complex rule that's necessary to automate these steps?
Ok 😄
tame dew
_ makes 🍿 _
lone steppe
Yeah, python also uses toml for pyproject.toml files so it's well supported upstream.
gusty wedge
Yeah, i like the board config used in platformio
lone steppe
Sweet, that's doable
analog acorn
You need a configuration compiler.
gusty wedge
[env:adafruit_feather_m0] ❤️
tame dew
TOML is also used for gitlab ci runner
compact sandal
If you use CMake you can get Ninja support for free and still support make.
gusty wedge
Here some of the rust+rp2040 stuff.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2021/02/05/rust-rt-thread-os-freertos-come-to-the-raspberry-pi-pico/
muted mesa
cascading schemas, then?
grand tusk
TinyGo uses svd also. I always confuse it with 'singular vector decomposition'. 😏
analog acorn
#include <flash.hpp> ?
tame dew
CMake unfortunately does not stop developers from still writing terrible build systems that are brittle and won’t cross-compile.
light stump
Would it possible theoretically to have a module that works in the background ki...
Seems like we will be getting multiple cores in every chip soon. Now we just have to figure out how to use them. Recently, I've been wondering why these (low end?) capacitive touch chips advertise gesture detection but don't deliver. Do we need to "roll our own" in a spare core?
balmy tinsel
Ie most cmake on windows
tame dew
It’s almost always “the devil is in the configuration details”
Sensible defaults are sooooo pleasant.
lone steppe
That looks intuitive; I like it
maybe could even rename that gigadevice.toml to defaults.toml or something.
Ah, that's good thinking
tame dew
But they would be auto detected as the equivalent of a virtual “default.toml”? As in if the only file is named the same as the parent it is auto loaded
simple fractal
no really important but there is a semi mfgr gigadevice
tame dew
Does TOML support dict/tuple complexity too?
tame dew
Comments! The biggest problem with JSON!
I’ve been equating TOML to INI, so I need to do more research/tinkering.
muted mesa
it does go beyond INI spec-wise. but the overall structure is very very similar.
analog acorn
Does TOML have conditional includes? That would make cascading a lot easier....
upbeat galleon
i think that if json had comments and allowed trailing commas, we would live in a better world
tame dew
I’m also a fan of YAML, but you make a compelling argument for TOML.
upbeat galleon
all the time those trailing commas have taken from me
muted mesa
YAML is awesome. the downside is 84 pages of spec. hehe
upbeat galleon
have you ever seen "the norway problem" with yaml, that's funny
if you parse a list of country codes which are bareword strings, then norway is parsed as false
shell mason
CPAML the CircuitPython AML
tame dew
CPAP?
lucid marsh
thanks for the show!
gusty wedge
baremetal ninja. I'll play that game.
waxen thistle
Thanks Scott for another relaxing Friday evening! Thanks to Ladyada for joining!
modern night
thank you for the stream! have a great weekend!
tame dew
Thank you @rapid hornet. Fun as always. My favorite 2 hours of the week.
oblique jay
Thanks so much!!! Great stream ☺️ learned a lot!
gusty wedge
Thanks tannewt. Very cool, very informative, and I learned a lot like usual.
analog acorn
Thanks! Have a good weekend, @rapid hornet and company.
cinder wind
Thanks @rapid hornet ! always a blast
muted mesa
thanks Scott, and everyone for deep diving! 👋 (i've been leaving my Discord open again, so noti me if i can help out with physical testing discussion)
eager matrix
Thanks Scott.
opal summit
Thanks, Scott!
tame dew
Gratuitous cat cam! Yes!
cinder wind
multi-cat!
gusty wedge
One cat for every core.
simple fractal
thanks scott.
timid plover
bye everyone
simple fractal
bye all
upper sandal
byeeeee
nova totem
Bye everyone
rapid hornet
thanks all!
oblique jay
Mew!! 😻😻 have a nice day kitties!!
lone steppe
Thank you! Can't wait for my Metro ESP-32 to arrive and work more on CircuitPython
autumn turret
i think that if json had comments and allowed trailing commas, we would live in ...
Some days, I'm not sure which of those I want (need) most, but yes!
timid plover
@proper trench mentioned https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_DAP today
Has anyone looked at puttig this code into the RP2040 - to let the PIO blast out the code?
ancient grotto
@smoky island Good Day sir, are you streaming tomorrow? what are the topics? 🙂
smoky island
<@!382939733107408897> Good Day sir, are you streaming tomorrow? what are the to...
Yep planning on it. Not certain on topic yet. Maybe playing with tilemap games some.
ancient grotto
Nice, I do nothing about that, so hoping to learn a little. Thank you
smoky island
I will be checking out your two PRs for vertical labels, and the tab fix this weekend as well. Thanks for working on those!
ancient grotto
Thank you, @light stump mentioned the vertical label in one of the button issues, so I was wondering if we need to work on that.
wind spoke
Apparently I felt asleep near the end of the stream. Thanks to the note I know when TOML was discussed, that is the last thing I remember. I woke up 2H later with the computer on and my headset.
smoky island
I will be getting started soon, links coming in a moment.
Going to be streaming this morning some CircuitPython Game development, and PRs join me here in the chat, on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeRaBjqiUOI or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch
autumn turret
Looks like Google might be doing something weird with the URLs in the description. Clicked in the "System76" links and wound up on 404 pages from them
From 0-10 on volume, you're at about a 0.2
autumn turret
Ahoy @ancient grotto 🙂
ancient grotto
🙂
autumn turret
And Discord chat is locked up?
ancient grotto
yes it seems like it again
ancient grotto
Thanks
autumn turret
Perfect!
ancient grotto
Good how about you?
grand tusk
autumn turret
Doing good here, fighting a bit of pylint to get the progress bar done!
Not a big deal, but figured it was worth mentioning
ancient grotto
Good, I love the progress Bar, the whole vertical bar made me want to have the vertical text
ancient grotto
<:blinka_cooking:438819275541708820>
Good Morning Dexter
grand tusk
Good morning to you!
autumn turret
Between the verticals, 2 along with TG-Techie's sliders can make for some really interesting widgets and controls
ancient grotto
agree, did you see the scroll text from kmatch?
I wrote an issue in the main code, I link the number in the PR
grand tusk
My clock, on the Metro ESP32 s2.
autumn turret
Also with it being a CSV, while a bit trickier, you can use a text editor
Very nice @grand tusk
smoky island
grand tusk
https://www.adafruit.com/product/802 TFT 1.8" Shield.
autumn turret
That looks like a very interesting shield!
ancient grotto
That is a shield for the ESP32.... nice
clever summit
Ping.
grand tusk
1.8" Color TFT Shield for Arduino (Metro).
ancient grotto
Good afternoon Jonny
clever summit
Good afternoon, @ancient grotto
ancient grotto
I have already discuss with her regarding this pr, she said sit tight 🙂
They get ignored
autumn turret
Can you specify the number of spaces for tabs?
autumn turret
Python standard?
clever summit
I wonder how many spaces is used to store all tab-replacing spaces in the world. Must be Petabytes. 🙂
ancient grotto
yeah I could do that, that is a good idea
ancient grotto
yes I agree I like that
autumn turret
I think you checked out the vertical bar last week and the week before
ancient grotto
yes
Yes please
No pelase do it
it will be good for new folks
Please test it
autumn turret
This is around the time of a stream folks ask "When will the magtag be back in stock?" 🙂
clever summit
I got my ordered during the stream with Scott when it was initially released. 🙂
It was painful trying to make stuff work on it. SO many CP bugs.
autumn turret
I [im]patiently waited for my Adabox
clever summit
Yea, I did run out of space at occassions.
I can't get Adabox. They don't ship to Sweden, and refuse to send to a mail forwarder.
ancient grotto
Every time the magtag crashes sends my ubuntu to freeze 😦
autumn turret
Every time the magtag crashes sends my ubuntu to freeze 😦
Yikes :/
clever summit
Oh, that sucks, @ancient grotto !
autumn turret
When testing like that, I like to put the code to test in its own file, then from the code.py file, do import my_example_code
ancient grotto
good idea hugo,
autumn turret
Yep
ancient grotto
yes I used tio
autumn turret
So right now, working on the MatrixPortal, I commented out my "what I use it for" import statement, and uncommented the test code.
As long as your code.py is ok! But you can then test it out within a while True: or try: / except:
ancient grotto
Good point
autumn turret
I bet it was always "1" because you had the PyGamer in there as "0" when you plugged it in
autumn turret
From the repl, call import code
light stump
Hey all you cool people, missed the early part (will have to restream later to catch up).
autumn turret
Also, when you do a code block like that on GitHub, you can put the language after the opening triple-backtick for proper syntax highlighting
ancient grotto
Hello @light stump
smoky island
print("hello")
Didn't know Discord could do that, so thanks for that extra! 🙂
Can say that Teams and Slack do not support languages
light stump
The BDF font format (and probably most others) includes options for vertical language layouts, since they have a "delta_x" and "delta_y" to set the next baseline point for the next glyph. I suspect label and bitmap_label would require some updates to accommodate it.
autumn turret
Heads up about locked up Discord windows, @smoky island
Probably a game Pack. Windows only ever distributed Minesweeper, Solitaire and Pinball as games, as far as I recall
But looks fun
clever summit
Agreed, I don't think it came with Windows.
autumn turret
lol, I think I'd just play slide on the ice all day!
pallid sail
Just flipped the stream back on and I used to play this game all the time
light stump
Shoes on Blinka? Maybe should shed into a new skin?
autumn turret
Blinka.. in SPACE! on MARS!
pallid sail
There were a few other games that came with this pack that were awesome as well, Rodents Revenge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodent's_Revenge
ancient grotto
Now I remember
autumn turret
Could be fun to try and make in MakeCode Arcade too
ancient grotto
You are live for me
light stump
Had a few glitches here but was maybe on my end.
pallid sail
You're here on my end
clever summit
YT glitched on me. Several times.
autumn turret
I've noticed that too, that PyCharm seems to loose the autocomplete helper
ancient grotto
standard python definition in the class or function definition I think, let me test
autumn turret
I've also see :rtype: <type>
rapid hornet
(On my phone)
autumn turret
Oooh, we lured Scott out of lurk mode on mobile! 😛
ancient grotto
def foo() -> displayio.Palette:
autumn turret
Ah, ok. Good to know. Thanks for clarification Scott!
rapid hornet
Shared bindings has examples
Look at the function defs
Ya you gotta figure out how to say it returns a tuple
Exactly. And ya it’s be awesome to have type hints in the libs
ancient grotto
A lambda then..