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left pier
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Itsy Bitsy RP2040 also coming soon (*I lied)
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rustic oyster
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^ you got me!

proper trench
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😛 i wish

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because then i wouldnt have to do it

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k both types are in stock, please get onlya s many as you need so we have plenty for folks - i left a limit of 3 which i think is reasonalbe 😉

simple fractal
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when i worked on nda stuff i had random names for it all 🙂

brittle meadow
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@proper trench Can we get the QFN-56 RP2040 chips in the store when you get some, pretty please with a cherry on top?

proper trench
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yes

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i have like 10

waxen thistle
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Airgapped is the best.

proper trench
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i havent quite needed to re-work them

wind spoke
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@proper trench How does it feel to work on NDA when most of the stuff you do are in the open?

cinder wind
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"oh RP2040... that's the name of my cat"

proper trench
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i work under NDA all the time

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you just dont know about it 😉

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many chips i get early under NDA so boards and drivers are ready early.

wind spoke
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You split your brain?

tame dew
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Thank you for releasing more stock. ❤️ @open girder

weary ravine
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YAY!👍

proper trench
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samd51 i got under nda a few months early

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nrf52840 too

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and others, under frie-nda

brittle meadow
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(OK maybe a little)

rustic oyster
left pier
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@rapid hornet freeze the overhead cam if there is another unannounced product coming soon...

proper trench
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no nrf53 but they asked

glad mortar
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"frie-nda" 😄
is that the "just pls don't talk about it" version of an NDA?

proper trench
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yes

brittle meadow
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they're probably at the NRF57 in Adafruit HQ by now

glad mortar
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heh

proper trench
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i wish

mellow solstice
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big fanboy here @proper trench thank you for everything you do for this community

proper trench
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@glad mortar its only polite

glad mortar
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oh for sure

grand tusk
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Where in memory does the PIO code go?

wind spoke
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Max 32 instructions...

waxen thistle
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who forgets to plug in a cable.

wind spoke
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Does the PIO code survive power off? reset?

rustic oyster
modern night
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issues because I forget the cabeling are my bread and butter

rustic oyster
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spoiler, it was not.

waxen thistle
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Plugged in my DB-9 serial cable into a production server that was having connectivity issues, powered on my laptop, and outright had a panic attack when absolutely no output appeared in Putty.

....yep. I forgot to plug in the USB-to-Serial adapter into my laptop.

wind spoke
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Next is, does this cable have data.

waxen thistle
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Nope, just Lore.

brittle meadow
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also, it's scary how many things from el cheapo MCU boards to multiple hundreds of thousand $ industrial equipment is fixed by power cycling

rustic oyster
waxen thistle
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@rustic oyster Modem or null modem, that is the question.

wind spoke
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"cross-cable ethernet and roll-over console cable for cisco gear was my issue"

nova totem
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I had an ethernet crossover cable where one TX/RX pair wasn't crimped right. COuld not figure out forever what was wrong

waxen thistle
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Now some systems use USB-micro or USB-mini for serial/iDRAC connectivity. And some have...cough customized USB-mini cables that aren't standard.

rustic oyster
wind spoke
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So what was your flash split decision?

left pier
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I noticed this video on YT being recommended under the live stream... LadyAda on the RP2040 boards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMfRA_k-EYQ

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Something to watch after the Deep Dive

nova totem
waxen thistle
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@rustic oyster I carry 2x at least of each cable just to be on the safe side. Both are known to work, one is the daily workhorse -- the second is a spare. Because the "spare parts box" that's onsite never has the cable you need.

rustic oyster
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✂️ <-- that's what happens to misbehaving cables

waxen thistle
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And ✂️ USB cables that are unknown if they're power-only or power+data.

rustic oyster
waxen thistle
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@rustic oyster Commercially available, or homemade?

rustic oyster
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tindie i think, let me pull up my shop history

simple fractal
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same here. not sure where i got it

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yes

wind spoke
rustic oyster
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"and human sanity tester" is no joke

waxen thistle
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Thanks @rustic oyster -- and I love that, "human sanity tester".

I have a whole document for each system that is a list of "Sanity Checks" for both hardware and software. So I'm totally onboard with another sanity tester 🙂

simple fractal
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yes thats the one, or similar to what i have

wind spoke
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Ok I don't have a scope like you... can a CLUE or something else be turned into a lowcost scope to display a graph of pin state?

grand tusk
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Ah, we're back to counting cycles.

wind spoke
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Can you do the 1 twice longer than the 0 ? Or something like that.

timid plover
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The "Freq" label in logic read something around 800Khz before

simple fractal
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actually i think you could use the pico as a simple logic analyzer 🙂

waxen thistle
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Allright, I hate to leave -- but dinner awaits.

[Porchetta, baked sweet potatoes, vegetable medley]

simple fractal
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i also have some aliexpress usb cable tester.

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lol

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i am hungry

timid plover
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so how is the clock calibrated ? ( if you needed exactly 800KHz - how would you do it?

grand tusk
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Buen provecho

rustic oyster
simple fractal
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i have a box of tons of usb testers. lol.

left pier
cinder wind
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you could even do triggering with the PIO

simple fractal
rustic oyster
rustic oyster
timid plover
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I'd love to see an rp2040 based logic analyzer in the next adabox 🙂 @open girder 🙂

fast onyx
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Oooh... It's tempting to write a basic pico logic analyzer support into sigrok.

simple fractal
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that would be nice, sigrok that is

cinder wind
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Time for PicoLogicFriend

left pier
simple fractal
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a plethora of projects. pick one, any one

rustic oyster
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how does bitmagic talk with sigrok?

timid plover
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800Khz +/- 1% ?

opal summit
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😍 RP2040 logic analyzer 😍

cinder wind
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at least it's an error msg

grand tusk
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Trombone

simple fractal
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isnt the bitmagic FX2?

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which is probably supported directly by sigrok.

rustic oyster
cinder wind
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you need an oscilloscope, digital boy

simple fractal
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i have a bunch of fx2 boards that i leave connected to some projects

rustic oyster
grand tusk
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Yay

cinder wind
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lololol

wind spoke
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CP will use the PIO and user will want to use the PIO. How do you deal with that?

left pier
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He mentioned they're going to manage access to the PIO in CP

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Whereas in MP you can have at it directly

simple fractal
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its is interesting, I guess some peripherals will use a PIO. instance.

left pier
upper sandal
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maybe a Metro RP2040 Airlift board ?

wind spoke
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There are two I2C on the RP2040, and the Qt-Py RP2040 expose SDA/SCL and a StemmaQT. Is it the same I2C bus or two separate?

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Pimoroni also plan a Wifi add-on with an ESP32 on it.

simple fractal
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lots of fun options. we need at least one of each

timid plover
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that's a lot in 4 instructions!

simple fractal
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reminds me of vliw stuff.

sweet drift
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well, these are very large instruction words - 16 bits!

grand tusk
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Is this microcode?

timid plover
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so how to the bits get from CP into the pull bits ?

rustic oyster
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sm.write()

glad mortar
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I feel this will be a gateway drug for many to get into FPGA development

rustic oyster
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I really hope someone (not me) creates a PIO "emulator" with a nice logic analyzer style visualizer.

glad mortar
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pun intended

rustic oyster
timid plover
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is the intensity/brightness controlled - or is the green blink something else ?

wind spoke
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Are we going to be able to program the other M0 in assembly langage from CP???

glad mortar
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I'd love to just be able to have a different binary running on the other core and have an API to talk safely between them via DMA or so

warm dust
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something similar for s2 risc-v core

left pier
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And is this a standard assembler or is it specific to the RP2040 (I don't know much about assembler). Just curious where we point people to learn about the input program.

simple fractal
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its rp2040 specific

rustic oyster
simple fractal
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at least i've never seen it before

wind spoke
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Can I skip the assembler and directly provide the HEX value?

simple fractal
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not that i've seen it all, yet

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i thknk you need a front panel and key in the bits

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i had a supervisor in my first job who would key in IBM Assembler binary from the front panel of the mainframe

timid plover
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earlier I asked about getting EXACTLY 800KHz - would you have to calibrate the frequency into the state machine instead of the even 800000 ?

left pier
wind spoke
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The RP 2040 will take a week to here... can I use that library on another CP board, just the assembler library?

opal summit
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The RP2040 is going to be so much fun!

timid plover
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the color loop looked like a constant, did I miss something ?

glad mortar
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@wind spoke that is all highly specific to the RP2040, that wont work

timid plover
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ha - thanks !

wind spoke
weary ravine
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must leave. looking forward for thr picos bye now

glad mortar
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yea but you can't really do anything with it on a different board 🙂

proper trench
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but they will be gone soon

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so really if you want any, i recommend getting em now

opal summit
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I happened upon them being in stock earlier and grabbed 3! I'm so excited 😁

modern night
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aw I want more, but I've already ordered a few. I'll wait until the rush is over for more 😄

glad mortar
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like, you can compile the machine code on any board with that library but you can only do something with the output on an RP2040

modest vector
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What a fright. I went to checkout and my pico's were out of stock! Fortunately the ones with headers are still there 🙂

smoky island
warm dust
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nice..! looking forward to over-clocking the development of CPY for RP2040

autumn turret
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The Pico RP2040 with headers is what I got. Figured it was a) my best chance to get them when they stocked day 1, and 2) Why get a separate product/item for headers!

rustic oyster
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presses ctrl+p its a book now! 😈

autumn turret
modern night
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How do you feel about it being used in education--like as a college ee course before intro to embedded systems: that way students can get use to concepts like i2c protocols before worrying about learning about the embedded level

rustic oyster
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embedded meaning: fighting with poorly named registers on poorly documented chips? 😄

proper trench
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stm32F405 Feather runs both pretty well

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its another good comparison board since it has 1st class support in both

fast onyx
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The RP2040 looks like maybe the perfect chip for circuitpython. All reflashable over USB, which is great!

modern night
proper trench
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the rp2040 is probably the FIRST chip that was explicitly designed for use with Python!

wind spoke
upper sandal
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(speaking of, I noticed today the STM32 feather product page has outdated info about CPY support)

rustic oyster
proper trench
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@modern night Python lets you jump in and its great for hardware interfacing learning. you dont have the nonsense and toolchain pains, can get right into using hardware

analog acorn
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But will it fit in a GameBoy?

timid plover
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how are you doing - we haven't seen you drinking any water 🙂

rustic oyster
timid plover
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we can't see you - just the blinking led and the data sheet

rustic oyster
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@rapid hornet lol yeah that was just a joke bit

autumn turret
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I wish there were more hours in the day to work and play with all the projects and chips and things I want to, on top of that "work" thing

upper sandal
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@rustic oyster he's diving too deep 😄

autumn turret
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Or maybe just do that for work instead? 🤔

left pier
rustic oyster
proper trench
autumn turret
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Great, Scott's talking about a product. Will sell out in 3 minutes

upper sandal
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one already has

timid plover
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welcome - my pleasure

proper trench
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AND TRY CIRCUITPYTHON! you might like it 🙂

modest vector
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Ladyada: I went to check out and a STEMMA Qt potentiometer got added to my cart. But I just noticed the email says a different STEMMA Qt board got added. Not sure if that's a bug or not. Oh well just happy my Pico boards are now ordered.

blazing girder
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@proper trench total aside, where could I search for AW9523b library/code? I know it’s not out yet don’t ask but I’m working on stuff for it myself and wouldn’t mind trying to contribute. Or just keep searching GitHub?

simple fractal
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thanks scott and everyone here for all the information

proper trench
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@blazing girder for c or python?

autumn turret
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Thanks Scott, and everyone at Adafruit and community!

cinder wind
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Thanks Scott! CircuitPython is awesome. So cool to see it on the RP2040

modest vector
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Thanks Scott! Great as always.

nova totem
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And soon enough you won't remember to put ; in C code anymore cause of python

left pier
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Thanks @rapid hornet and @proper trench another great Deep Dive !

proper trench
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@modest vector its 'random'

warm dust
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Thanks!

blazing girder
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@proper trench working in arduino c atm.

cinder wind
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Next week is about RP4080

autumn turret
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But, what if there's ANOTHER new chip in the next 166 hours?

rustic oyster
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Thanks Scott!

wispy linden
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Thanks @rapid hornet 🙂 awesome stuff

proper trench
modern night
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Thank you, this is an awesome one I'll probably rewatch a couple of times, congrats for all the work you've done!

timid plover
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thanks all

autumn turret
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Have a good weekend everyone!

blazing girder
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Argh GitHub search sucks!! Thanks @proper trench

simple fractal
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2.17.5 ROSC (random number generator)

nova totem
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Great job have a great weekend everyone

autumn turret
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And don't forget cat treats @rapid hornet ! 🙂

rustic oyster
simple fractal
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lol

proper trench
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gr8 stream @rapid hornet

rapid hornet
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thanks @proper trench !

blazing girder
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Thanks @rapid hornet

simple fractal
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now we have surfaced again. Diving done. thanks

restive stone
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well done. joined. thanks for the links

proper trench
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🧜‍♀️

rustic oyster
upper sandal
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thanks for the stream and all the stuff and gadgets that make me feel overwhelmed in a good way 😛

proper trench
restive stone
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I should learn circuitpython cause i use that too on that pi tank from yahboom

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clunky little thing

odd fox
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looking forward to receiving my pico. sooo excited

rare mountain
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Not live anymore, but I have a question about the programmable ldo. "On-chip programmable LDO to generate core voltage" Does this allow me to run the pico at 2.75v or maybe communicate with an analog 2.75v device? If not, what does this feature do?

smoky island
neat flax
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Yesterday during the stream I asked about wifi/bt support and you said the feather would work with a module. Is that available yet so I can have the page open and ready when feather orders go up? I don’t want to miss out because of limited stock lol

modest vector
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It looked like there was almost a cat cam there for a second.

Showed up late. What are you working on?

strong acorn
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@neat flax best to sign up for the in-stock notification email

neat flax
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I already signed up for the feather notification, but I can’t find a page for the wireless module thing to sign up there. Possibly because I don’t know what it’s called

nova totem
strong acorn
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I don't see that SPI is supported yet, but it will come in time I'm sure (Airlift uses SPI)

neat flax
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I think you’re correct, thank you! And yeah I think during the steam he mentioned it was in progress but should by release work

upper sandal
modest vector
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Is this a library for a specific display?

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Or a general touchable display library?

pallid sail
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How is adafruit deciding when to switch a library's default branch from master to main

smoky island
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it can work with any displayio device and any "touch" or other interface that returns a "point" object

modest vector
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Ahh, that does seem nice and convenient. Thanks for the explanation.

pallid sail
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~ is bitwise negation operator

modest vector
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Was that an artifact on youtube or is the text color change delayed?

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When you click the button and let go, it almost seems like part of the text changes color first, then the rest.

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Gotcha, thanks.

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No need to apologize. Cats will always be cats.

autumn turret
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Good morning/afternoon Foamy

modest vector
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I did not know about pylint and black, nice. Time to install and set it up on my end too.

autumn turret
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You can also run them as part of your local pre-commit, if the repo is setup with the "pre-commit" utility, like the main CP repo

modest vector
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So is sphynx basically the doxygen version for Python?

modest vector
autumn turret
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Not on what changed, but on what fails. It runs the same process as the Github actions

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So on repos that have the .pre-commit-config.yaml file already in place, it will test those rules. If you add it as a pre-commit hook in the repo, it just works

pallid sail
autumn turret
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I disagree. I think your computer knows how to spell colour just fine! 🙂

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btw, what tool are you using to display the chat on stream?

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Very cool. Thanks for the behind the scenes of making the sausage!

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I think it's typically 1600 UTZ

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Nice chill Saturday morning stream 🙂

modest vector
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Mornings and weekends are definitely better. I happen to stay in this afternoon just because it's still cold out, haha.

autumn turret
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I think that was me in the Twitch chat last week, until I figured out you mostly focus on the chat here

modest vector
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So do you also work for Adafruit?

autumn turret
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Have a good weekend @smoky island and folks!

modest vector
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Ahh great. Well thanks for taking time to share your knowledge and insight on CP.

smoky island
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Thanks for hanging out folks! Hope you all have a nice weekend as well!

rough delta
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Thank you. definitely learned a bunch.

open girder
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pearl shoal
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Excited about the rp2040. For 5 at micro center in Atlanta!

untold current
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Itsy Bitsy!!

pearl shoal
autumn turret
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So is anyone else impressed with how under-the-radar the RP2040 and Pico came? There were those "in the know", but the NDA/embargo was so respected that not a PEEP was anywhere until it was announced

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Hmmm, mutual respect? How novel! "big business" could take a lesson

untold current
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I was really surprised of the announcement and never saw that coming.

nova totem
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yeah given how many people were involved I thought the same thing

pearl shoal
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We’ve had good luck with usb-c as a host. In fact on the itsy bitsy/qt py version I’d love it if the protective diode was jumperable to allow hosting

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I am impressed by the secrecy as well

autumn turret
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There wasn't any "fixin' to start getting ready to design a project plan for a spec of a chip architecture that..blah blah blah". Just as PT put it, "getting it done" spirit and attitude.

pearl shoal
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I use Kester 60/40 and love it

nova totem
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I got my last solder spool off digikey, and yeah so many options

upper sandal
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sööölder ?

pearl shoal
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Thick solder is great for connecting larger gauge wires like on the boat. Lots of flux

spiral bough
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trying smaller spools while evaluating which pb-free mix I prefer, would not normally buy small spools!

pearl shoal
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Very helpful!

mellow thunder
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ultra informative ty!

pearl shoal
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Q: does limor use low temp rework solder?

tame dew
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Future topic: how Adafruit cleans boards 😉

mellow thunder
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I might have missed it, when is your pico feather coming out?

inner spade
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Thanks!

rapid hornet
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@mellow thunder as soon as the chips get to adafruit. not sure when that will be

mellow thunder
autumn turret
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I think the real answer is "not soon enough"!

mellow thunder
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So true!

autumn turret
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I can only imagine the production ramp-up for the fab has got to be going overtime

mellow thunder
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whole library compatibility!

light stump
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@pearl shoal I’m curious about your USB host wing using the RP2040. Can you use one core for USB host and the other for general processing and CircuitPython? Specifically I’m interested in a way of getting USB Keyboard input and still doing “normal” CircuitPython things.

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Hmm... just looked at the datasheet a bit more. Perhaps there is only 1 USB controller so only acting as host or device, not both. If you find out differently I’d be interested to hear more.

pearl shoal
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The idea is to make a wing that pops on a feather. It would use i2c/uart/spi to pass usb data to the main device

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Rp2040 just drops the cost and adds speed

fallow fractal
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hey saw a old live stream about pcb panelization on youtube, maybe some has a good ulp for panelization? i used spark fun one bud no go, my pcb is round 😦

haughty quiver
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Today's going to be a JPPPoW DOUBLE FEATURE so grab a snack!

inner spade
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👋

viscid bolt
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Snacks & drinks at the ready.

inner spade
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Let's all go to the lobby 🎵

viral sail
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Good afternoon.

inner spade
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Disco sounds on YT!

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mic audio very good, peaking at -6db

cinder wind
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but John, how do I install Linux on the Pico

viral sail
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Thanks @haughty quiver

inner spade
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Thanks!

viral sail
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But @haughty quiver the Pico isn't Stemma. 🙂

haughty quiver
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IT WILL BE WHEN I'M THROUGH WITH IT!

grand tusk
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Anything is Stemma when you have a soldering iron.

inner spade
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Today's show was simply synchrolicious.

haughty quiver
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yay!

cinder wind
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what is going on

haughty quiver
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I was wondering the same thing

autumn turret
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Just getting to catch the replay now. As soon as JP comes on "Uh oh, audio issues?"... Yep. On my end. Apparenlty, when your headphones are plugged into a different computer, it won't play the sound of the computer you're looking at. 🤷

haughty quiver
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Haha, funny how that can work that way

autumn turret
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But... TECHNOLOGY! It should know what I mean to do and stuff. I thought we were living in the future!

haughty quiver
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the future is a bit fussy about wiring still

rocky reef
waxen thistle
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I may not be able to make it, but I wish y'all an enjoyable and most excellent show.

hard hollow
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all good thanks, Bruce!

shell mason
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we all have excellent show

rocky reef
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good morning folks!

viral sail
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Good morning.

shell mason
rocky reef
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mellow thunder
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Good morning boys!

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Question from last week dark saber, You guys said 2m of neopixels would work so I ordered. Going through learn guide I found you need 34 lights per side of saber. 2m only has 60 total.... will it still work?

static wedge
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Super cool texture! Nice and fun project!

rocky reef
static wedge
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Natural PLA or Clear PETG for the blade??

shell mason
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hard hollow
rocky reef
shell mason
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the pic of awesome

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great project

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seems bouncing a little

rocky reef
mellow thunder
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Super Cool!

rocky reef
static wedge
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What material and color did you use for the blade? Is natural PLA good enough or should I use clear PETG

shell mason
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interesting

rocky reef
viral sail
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Thanks @rocky reef & @sour ridge see you tonight.

static wedge
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Awesome stream today!

hard hollow
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thanks folks, cya tonight 🙂

rocky reef
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thanks so much for hanging out folks!

static wedge
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Can’t wait to see pico projects

sour ridge
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Wrong Noe

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Once more

hard hollow
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👋🏼

sour ridge
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I'm sorry, doppelganger

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I've caused you so much trouble

hard hollow
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all good 😄

shell mason
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so much trouble

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the white house now with capitol and you can print bernie with chair sitting there

autumn turret
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I just wanted to let you know, @hard hollow and @rocky reef , I absolutely love and admire the quality crafting you put into the projects, and not just the finished product. But the amount of design work to make projects look good, to assemble them with ease and no exotic parts, and make them multi-functional when appropriate. For example, this week's project fits and snaps together beautifully, no need for 20x7$ fittings from a specialty supplier, the ability to make a mount onto a standard tripod mount. The ease with which you make it for other makers to follow suite is unmistakable and beautifully executed.

Bravo you to!

hard hollow
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@autumn turret Thank you very much for that comment 🙂

fallow current
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Is it fair to say that the RP2040 can run at a lower voltage than most CircuitPython targets ?

pearl shoal
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Great to see everyone "together"

rapid hornet
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@fallow current It can do 1.8v - 3.3v which is pretty common for chips CP runs on

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adafruit boards will stick to 3.3v though for sensor compatibility

junior niche
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Hello Adafriends. Hope to present this evening if it's OK. Mil Mascaras - the talking, pi-based mask-distributing robot.

waxen thistle
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Good evening all you wonderful folks and sentient robots! 🤖 adabot

split gazelle
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good evening folks

nova totem
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Good evening!

sage aspen
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Hello all 👋

gusty wedge
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Hi from Costa Rica.

open girder
viral sail
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Good evening everyone.

open girder
inner spade
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👋

deep scarab
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Good evening!

nimble jackal
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It's time!

gusty wedge
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I hope Drew come by to show the BeagleV

smoky island
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if the CSV data is "simple" enough you might be able to get by with string splitting on commas.

pallid sail
split gazelle
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that's super handy for the pico

haughty quiver
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Hello!

mellow thunder
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Oh wow that's nice!

lofty mist
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That's a brilliant use of AR!

mellow thunder
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2 pico's incoming Friday!

shadow epoch
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Love that use of AR!

junior niche
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Oh I seem to have missed things.

waxen thistle
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Yay kerning!

mellow thunder
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MAG-TAG can always steal Pico fire! lol

robust horizon
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check it out for the code ^^

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Thanks @hard hollow @rocky reef for taking my project to the next level!

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(is that the right Pedro? apologies if I @'ed the wrong person)

gusty wedge
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Well played.

nova totem
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That was great

mellow thunder
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Oh JP that ausio..lol

split gazelle
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speaking as someone who now professionally supports zoom calls my worst nightmare is seeing someone speak on webcam but no sound or muted icon

mellow thunder
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*audio

waxen thistle
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@split gazelle You're a lifesaver for so many, yet I can't imagine the torture you deal with daily.

split gazelle
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@waxen thistle it's admittedly been rough recently

smoky island
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it's possible to launch py scripts from the SDCard? 🤯

sage aspen
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Yep

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Launching them from SD card has been around a while apparently, but I hadn't done it until this project

lofty mist
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@haughty quiver reminds me of the old WinAmp visualizers 😄

inner spade
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A Visualizer Kiosk interface!

mellow thunder
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Wow now that's a breadboard!

fluid drum
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Wow, that is a great way to label the pins

haughty quiver
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@lofty mist yes for sure! This one is called Animus and it's available for most OSes.

split gazelle
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really enjoyed the livestream @rapid hornet

nova totem
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Reminded to checked the tracking on my pico

gusty wedge
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blinka is going way fast on the new cool hw.

haughty quiver
robust horizon
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sorry I'm late with the joke but... jp's "raspberry pi porko"

haughty quiver
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head to their github for source

opal summit
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I get my Picos tomorrow!

gusty wedge
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Can't get my head around how cool the ASM library is... Congrats to the team.

nova totem
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I love this chandelier @steep pilot

tame dew
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Very appropriate that @steep pilot needed to move into the light

rapid hornet
mellow thunder
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@steep pilot You amaze me with your creations!

shadow epoch
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need that lamp! ❤️

rapid hornet
tame dew
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Giant REPL

robust horizon
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I think the new matrix feature is in 6.2-alpha.0, thanks @low fractal for implementing the feature!

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if not it'll be in the next one after that

deep scarab
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omg so many buttons!

tame dew
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Accessibility ideas for the Giant REPL

steep pilot
waxen thistle
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Liz knows how to press everyone's buttons. 🙂

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You know you've made it in life when Ladyada happily exclaims "what is going on in this workshop?"

split gazelle
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good to see you on @junior niche

lofty mist
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Yay KiCad! ❤️

clear matrix
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@lofty mist 👋

waxen thistle
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🎵 Here comes the sun -- do do doo de doo 🎵

lofty mist
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Hi @clear matrix !

split gazelle
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sweet light @nova totem

hasty chasm
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DUDE @lofty mist !! lol, it was your KiCAD tutorials that got me there. thank you!!!

viral sail
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Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.

split gazelle
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great projects everyone

nova totem
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@split gazelle thanks, my table I work on is always so dark so I think this will work great

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Great showing everyone

lofty mist
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Great work everyone! Loved the projects 🙂

waxen thistle
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Thanks everyone for sharing tonight! You're the bright shining light for our future. Wait, no that's just @nova totem's light shining in my general direction....wait, he's hundred of miles away?!?

junior niche
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Lots of inspiration. Very cool stuff. Cheers & stay safe!

split gazelle
opal summit
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Those projects look amazing all

lofty mist
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@hasty chasm Awesome! I'm really glad to hear that they helped you!

nova totem
clear matrix
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My LED wall is above my workstation, so I often end up using that... except it's running animations, so it's only intermittently useful... so I'll pause to wait for it to be a brighter animation again 😆

nova totem
lofty mist
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@hasty chasm And well done on that PCB...it came out great!

waxen thistle
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@nova totem Look into the light! See spot. See spot run. Run spot run! Wait, don't look into the light!

hasty chasm
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thank you @lofty mist 🙂 next one will be even better! i have discovered svg2shenzhen and "it is the way" 🙂 🙂

nova totem
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@hasty chasm That's great to see success from someone else who really wants to learn but hasn't taken the plunge

lofty mist
clear mauve
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our they going live again?

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are*

rapid hornet
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yup, for ask an engineer

open girder
rapid hornet
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svg2shenzhen worked well for me for my michigan ornament

viral sail
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Hey they're magically in the same room now.

lofty mist
waxen thistle
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"Masking -- it's not just for solder anymore."

hasty chasm
lofty mist
waxen thistle
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gusty wedge
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I had a VR3 linux PDA back in the days. @sage aspen's reminded me of that one.

sage aspen
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I call mine the CPDA or CircuitPython Digital Assistant

gusty wedge
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Very cool project.

sage aspen
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Thanks

waxen thistle
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🎮 ⏱️ Lars has a lot of 'potential' with MakeCode! @haughty quiver's MakeCode Minute was 2min 14sec of using a pair of potentiometers with a PyBadge! ⏱️ 🎮

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pearl shoal
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Great chat today... I found it very cool that I'd met 4 of the 6 ppl in person 🙂

waxen thistle
dim knot
pearl shoal
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Check your local Micro Center - they sold me 5X Picos (at $1.99 each, although I think only the first was supposed to be discounted 🙂

waxen thistle
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Snakes on a spaceplane.

gusty wedge
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Sadly, the batteries from the sats are quite low, two of them are in low power mode already, the other one littlefoot has 11%-12%

rapid hornet
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@gusty wedge not running cp 6? 😛

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@gusty wedge that'd be an awesome show and tell!

waxen thistle
gusty wedge
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I was planning on showing it today, but sprang my back and couldn't set it up. I'll show it next week I hope.

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We think the solar panels didn't open properly. They charge, but only a little bit.

pearl shoal
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Q (For Later): Is there CP support for CANBus?

nova totem
rapid hornet
dim knot
pearl shoal
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@rapid hornet - Thanks!

gusty wedge
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And it's very cool. Another sat called Norby from Israel, transmits from time to time in 7 watts over LoRa, so any tiny small antenna will pick it up, no need for huge antennas or rotators.

pearl shoal
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No audio

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Sorry, thought it was an issue

weary ravine
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So that is how they make so many boards

gusty wedge
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Very cool, @ornate coyote showed a bunch of how to use his pick n place. Quite useful. Thanks for it.

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(don't forget the unboxing video...)

autumn turret
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Good afternoon/evening/night/timezone friends. I hope you're all doing well

finite inlet
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Now I want a BrainCraft HAT

waxen thistle
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NPI --- yes. My favorite, most costly segment of the show 😛

autumn turret
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I dunno @waxen thistle - "New products" can rack it up too!

waxen thistle
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I really dig the USB-programmable miniature speakers. They're just so handy to pre-program.

autumn turret
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I don't have any need or use for LoRa for the time being, or the near term, but part of me wants to setup a gateway at home just to make it available to anyone nearby who would use it

gusty wedge
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+1 ❤️ TTN

pearl shoal
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Nifty - perhaps a QSPI flash chip could make that work w/CP?

waxen thistle
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woah, rock music woke me up.

autumn turret
#

That smooth jazz at the start was the decoy!

velvet beacon
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Evening, folks! It's been ages!

waxen thistle
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Fake out, by STM.

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Howdy @velvet beacon !

autumn turret
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Ahoy @velvet beacon

gusty wedge
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No 137 😦 (useful for sats)

velvet beacon
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👋

gusty wedge
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But very cool chip.

autumn turret
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Adabox subscription ☑️

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So many new products? Sounds like a catch-up from last week's fakeout!

dim knot
opal summit
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That's going in my wishlist

open girder
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yah last week we had to wait until we could show the pico

autumn turret
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No complaints here!

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Speaking of which, UPS delivery with my Pico! WHEEEEE!

opal summit
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Mine come tomorrow!

dim knot
autumn turret
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OMG watching UPS tracking not update daily was excrutiating!

dim knot
noble grove
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QUESTION: Does the new Kano Webcam work on Linux?

urban gale
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ohh that's lovely!

waxen thistle
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I have a handful of Kano's products -- they're surprisingly robust for the pricepoint.

autumn turret
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Sounds like a good camera to inspect boards and solder joints

pearl shoal
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That would be great for monitoring a 3D Printer

dim knot
gusty wedge
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That's to tan your dragon.

autumn turret
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lol

opal summit
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That's gorgeous!

dawn girder
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You need UV neopixels to get a tan. 😁

gusty wedge
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We do. The dragon literature is unclear, since some are cavern creatures.

autumn turret
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I can imagine Erin coming up with a pretty awesome project with that too

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*projectS - plural. Dang you keyboard!

dim knot
waxen thistle
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@noble grove I can't find a 100% confirmed documented source, but I'd say I'm 99% sure it does since all the photos on their website see it being used on a RPi.

And all their other products I've used work on a RPi with little to no issue.

nova totem
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I used the high density ones to make my lamp (the straight white ones)

dim knot
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gusty wedge
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Yeah, this spi sd card is so cool.

dim knot
waxen thistle
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Hobby electronics for use inside rockets being launched into space. Yes, this is the 2021 I signed up for.

gusty wedge
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I showed it to some collaborators (geologist, archaeologists, biologists, etc) and they already sent me ideas for what they want to datalog.

waxen thistle
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Hats off to @dim knot -- who does the new product links every Wednesday evening. Thank you 🙂

autumn turret
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Totally agree @waxen thistle, and across multiple platforms. @dim knot does a phenomenal job

gusty wedge
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Q: Have you seen the BeagleV? Opinions? Will adafruit create something with a riscv64 chips?

autumn turret
#

QT PicoPy?

gusty wedge
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Oh, and having the GND pins in square like the Pi board, is very cool. Might want to copy that.

pearl shoal
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Bypass jumper on the protection diode on the QT Py Pico?

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Does anyone know if there's a footprint available for the Pico or should I take it from that board?

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Fantastic starting point

gusty wedge
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@pearl shoal That is what the castellated pins are. You could solder a qtpy on top.

pearl shoal
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YAY!

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Makes USB Hosting possible

merry gulch
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Q: What is a reasonable max length for the SPI breakout boards?

lilac tusk
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When do you think the actual rp2040 chips will be available?

upper sandal
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get a pico, a hot air gun...

autumn turret
lilac tusk
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Haha I have only one Pico right now 🙂

gusty wedge
#

For Lady Ada and @rapid hornet, have you gotten esp32-s3 samples yet?

lilac tusk
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Need bills to settle before I order more 😉

rapid hornet
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nope

lilac tusk
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I’m waiting for the C3 dev boards to go out

pallid sail
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Is there a timeline on the Adafruit feather s2 boards?

autumn turret
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I've got 2, so I can make 2 full finger rings!

gusty wedge
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Yeah, c3.

waxen thistle
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I'm so backlogged on projects and other responsibilities, I'm holding off getting a 2040 -- let others get the available stock for their immediate projects, and I'll nab them when they're more plentiful.

pearl shoal
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And SOME Micro Centers still have Picos in stock 🙂 https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=Raspberry+Pi+Pico&storeid=191

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glad mortar
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TQFP is a fair bit more expensive, I would not bet on getting that over a QFN 🙂

autumn turret
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Not in Dallas though *sniff*

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Road trip to Kansas? Hmmmm

waxen thistle
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Thanks @open girder for another awesome evening of shows!

opal summit
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Thanks!

viral sail
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Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌕

pearl shoal
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Thanks for continuing to do this, Phil & Limor

gusty wedge
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thanks for the show. Amazing as always.

nova totem
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Thanks, great show

gusty wedge
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And cheers for the community.

autumn turret
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Thank you Adafruit family and community! Be excellent and stay safe!

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Stay positive, and test negative

glad mortar
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have a good sleep! 😄

gusty wedge
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And like the video.

urban gale
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Thanks Adafruit team! Night all!

autumn turret
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G'night!

upper sandal
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nighty night

dim knot
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Night all!

dawn girder
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I’ll be ordering the RP2040 feather board as soon as I can get an orde4 in, whenever that is.

ashen hound
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👋🏽

autumn turret
#

Now time to catch up on S&T and Hackchat

ornate coyote
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OMG HackChat time zone shows the chat is today for me at 6pm - but it was yesterday!

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Missed it - boo hoo... but watching the playback now on YT!

spring rune
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do you have a complete getting started raspberry pi pico kit to go with the book?

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btw... you all are amazing! just getting started and there is just so much that you all do for the community. Thanks a bunch.

viral sail
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Good afternoon.

inner spade
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👋

haughty quiver
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hi!

fallow current
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@haughty quiver The 70's called... ...they want their groove back. (Your dancing last time was hillarious)

haughty quiver
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:)

viscid bolt
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Good afternoon

inner spade
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bleeps and bloops on yt

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Audio in sync, peaking at -12db.

autumn turret
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Good afternoon good folks!

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Oooh, that's a great project and board for it!

lavish patrol
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Morning/afternoon/evening all. 👋

autumn turret
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And I was eyeballing some load cells not long ago.. Hmmmmm

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Ahoy @lavish patrol

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Stemma QT for display and thermometer for water temp for the coffee

inner spade
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It can work as a standalone Stemma device, too.

mellow thunder
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Super Cool, Love that breadboard!

lavish patrol
autumn turret
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@inner spade You mean hook it up so it shows as a Stemma client, and not just a host?

inner spade
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It can act as a typical Stemma-QT device or as a FeatherWing. Perfect for connecting to a Clue, for example.

autumn turret
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Does anyone plan on hooking up pins to the debug pads?

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That's SO awesome @inner spade

inner spade
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Thanks!

autumn turret
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@haughty quiver - you should call that other one with headers soldered on "Harley Pynn" from teh colour scheme!

lavish patrol
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Yikes!

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GMT? or UTC?

autumn turret
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UTC

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At least should be if it's following the ISO-blahlbhablah format, which it should

lavish patrol
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Yep.

autumn turret
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Could probably use the buttons to pick or scroll sports and games, updates, etc

knotty whale
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Cool

viral sail
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Thanks @haughty quiver

mellow thunder
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Thanks JP!

autumn turret
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Thanks @haughty quiver, and have a wonderful rest of the week and weekend! So to everyone else! 🙂

lavish patrol
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Thanks, @haughty quiver 😀

haughty quiver
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You too, thanks so much @autumn turret

autumn turret
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Now time to watch SpaceX SN-9 hopefully go ahead

lavish patrol
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Gotta go; I' watching the SN9 launch (if it goes)...

haughty quiver
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🚀

autumn turret
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@lavish patrol - Which broadcast do you watch? I"m on Everyday Astronaut

lavish patrol
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Yep. Everyday Astronaut.

autumn turret
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Nice!

viral sail
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NASA Spaceflight

autumn turret
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Which, from what I've seen, is usually 2nd in viewership only to SpaceX

lavish patrol
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@viral sail Found it. 👍

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Lol. Flat battery.

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"So, what's the nature of your insurance claim?"

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"A starship fell on my trailer."

autumn turret
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lol

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"I'd just gotten a 75" 8k TV in there too, to watch the rocket ships"

lavish patrol
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😆

viral sail
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Well if the rocket doesn't go up you can always watch the Kitten Academy. mosfet

lavish patrol
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K. Bye all.

grand tusk
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@haughty quiver You should put right angle pins on the RP Pico, then plug it into two breadboards forming an 'H' shape.
'PI' fighter style.

worn bison
timid plover
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Looking forward to @rapid hornet 's deep dive in less than 5 hours -
( question for Scott and others - given earlier interest in FPGAs and comparing it to the focused power of the rp2040's PIO - have you followed the Glasgow Interface Explorer ? Is it the next step? Has anyone 'backed' it yet? - just 4 days left on crowd supply https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow )

Crowd Supply
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rapid hornet
modern night
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@timid plover I backed it a bit ago, a couple of years earlier I backed the 1bit^2 icebreaker fpga as well (but I haven't touched it yet because life is like that). I backed it because I don't own a digital logic analyzer and I found myself hunting for an arduino to listen to or generate signals frequently enough.

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They focus so much on being beginner friendly too that I'm not too worried about the FPGA side of it being too complex at once

rapid hornet
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ok, someone say something to see if the object thing has been fixed

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and it hasn't....

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tries chrome

ancient grotto
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Hello

rapid hornet
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haha, chrome does it too

ancient grotto
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Lol...

rapid hornet
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thanks for the help!

ancient grotto
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NP 👍

strong acorn
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Dear YouTube, please let me turn off Autoplay before the live stream starts.

fluid drum
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Hiyas

simple fractal
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early we is

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i think

viral sail
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Good afternoon Scott.

ancient grotto
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Hello again

autumn turret
#

That "[Object object]" is deep in the bowels of Discord's StreamKit. Dug into it for a while Wednesday and Thursday, and it comes from the server like that

severe vigil
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HI

digital crescent
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hi

autumn turret
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Yeah, the data comes in through a websocket connection as-is

simple fractal
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lol "[Object object]"

autumn turret
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Apparently, if you surround your nickname with [name] in Discord, it fixes it. I think it has to do server roles or something

severe vigil
#

shall we try it? [object Object]

simple fractal
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nope

ancient grotto
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[Object object] ?really?

autumn turret
#

At least that's what someone mentioned on Reddit

upper sandal
#

like that ?

simple fractal
#

lol

modern night
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o/ how's it going

upper sandal
#

looks like it

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well "surround your name with brackets" does work apparently

nova totem
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Hello everyone (and every object)

severe vigil
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don't worry, It's a feature

simple fractal
#

.

autumn turret
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My new nick will be [Surround Your Name with Brackets]

upper sandal
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oh wait no

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didn't work for Bruce

tropic inlet
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Hi Scott

upper sandal
#

good all "works for me"

simple fractal
#

we are easily distracted here

autumn turret
#

So it might be [name]Hi! My name is Inigo Montoya[name]

upper sandal
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ooof ok

autumn turret
#

Yeah. Less than ideal

#

Like 0 Kelvin is less than 0 F

tame dew
#

Any plans for a ESP32 wired Ethernet feather wing?

simple fractal
#

i did find that link. I read it as [BruceS] but maybe as above

left pier
#

Fun work Friday everyone !

simple fractal
#

but i am sure not

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lol

autumn turret
#

So much for that :/

tame dew
#

[gratuitous brackets]

smoky island
#

Don't look into factorio if you are easily drawn to games like that.

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But do look into factorio because it's amazing

upper sandal
#

can we import factorio ?

tame dew
#

Just the divergence of ESP32SPI NTP and WSGI server make the Wiznet5k less standard in the Adafruit libraries

strong acorn
#

no TLS on Ethernet FeatherWing

tame dew
#

No TLS on wiz net

wind spoke
#

Maybe you should discuss the "disk" partition on RP2040 (you covered that in another video, but maybe not a Deep Dive).

#

And I missed the full story of GPIO 15.

tropic inlet
#

async/irgqon pico

simple fractal
#

So i'm stuck with this nick until discord times out and lets me change it

#

i blame someone.

modest vector
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HI all.

nova totem
#

on the plus side on restream you still just show up as object Object regardless 🙂

wind spoke
#

Did Damien(?) work on MP in parallel with you working on CP?

simple fractal
#

great, so i will only bother everyone here 🙂

cinder wind
#

One reason I'd like interrupts: can't stop an ongoing network fetch via button press. 🙂

tame dew
#

Maybe a deep dive on installing Arch on raspberry pi next week
😉

tropic inlet
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For Pico you can always run MP on core 1 and CP on core 2 😉

fluid drum
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Agree 100! Not having the pins labeled is a huge pain!

normal plover
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It's cheap

tropic inlet
#

Lots of folks install the headers on the top

wind spoke
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There is no power LED... I was so used to Limor putting power LED button that this confuse me.

pallid sail
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Agreed completely!

timid plover
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there are external usb hubs that can cycle power for reset

  • and they run python
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the VR app from adafruit looks cool - for pin numbers

tame dew
#

Again, looking forward to the Feather Pico

wind spoke
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Power (on) LED?

pallid sail
fluid drum
#

Reasonable criticisms of the board as a dev board. All good points

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As someone getting older and my eyes not working as well, I absolutely love what JP did to label the ports!

tame dew
#

I’ve been running Raspbian 64-bit but no updates from upstream. It’s so August 2020

pallid sail
tropic inlet
#

I think someone mention that the switch reg is also used on Rpis..

normal plover
#

I firmly believe Circuit Python wouldn't be as great as it is today without Scott

brazen quail
#

What is your guess how far CP can be pushed for quadrature encoder(s) with PIOs ? (for closed loop motor control)

left pier
#

Maybe we could record this answer MPv.CP and play it as an outro ... 😉

wind spoke
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#differences-from-micropython

left pier
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One thing about the PIOASM stuff... it is definitely not for beginners. I think the "for beginners" tag for CP should maybe become "Easiest way to run Python on hardware..." or something like that

tropic inlet
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The PIOs can offload measurement the clock cycles between edges and push those up through the fifo

cinder wind
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I'm having a hard time installing Linux on my Pico. Even Arch

brazen quail
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Is CP doing QUAD SPI or QPI to flash ? (or just SPI)

split gazelle
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good evening folks

tame dew
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Hi @split gazelle

wind spoke
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Can you imagine a CircuitPython working the Arduino way, like running on your desktop and producing an UF2 that does everything.

autumn turret
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MicroPython vs. CircuitPython. Try it yourself and take the Pepsi Python challenge~

modern night
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yeah, in the python discord there's been a fair number of users asking about it as if it's an embedded linux device as well. In time it'll clear itself up I think

tropic inlet
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@brazen quail depends on port but CP uses QSPI on ESP32S2

cinder wind
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Arduino is great because it doesn't create a "floor" of efficiency: you can drop down to bare C SDKs or even assembly. That is not possible in CircuitPython, until maybe we get the ability to load binary modules

tropic inlet
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(flash and psram)

severe vigil
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TG-Techie: on what board?

grim robin
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Heh, just a follow up on the OTA question... what I meant was the support fr changing the files (like code.py) on the mass storage and not circuit python itself. Would that be still be considered OTA?🙂

left pier
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The ability to use CP libraries across boards is HUGE.

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in MP many libraries are port specific

tame dew
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CircuitPython is common with the exception of the ESP32SPI Ethernet support... e.g. there are things that work only in ESP32 WiFi right now and not in Wiznet5k

grim robin
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awesome, TY!

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if you can, please link that PR in the doc

brazen quail
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Consider QPIO over (older) QSPI to/from flash. Nuggets in datasheet linked at SparkFun for their Feather 🪶 rival.

tame dew
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Also, the ESP32 had more built in than Wiznet5k

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E.g. the socket registers

clever summit
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And TLS support

tame dew
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Not complaining, mind you, just observing

severe vigil
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It would be interesting to develop extensions to the CP core on a cp board, if it had an assembler or c compiler. (not a feature request just a what if😅)

tropic inlet
#

NoitsIce40HX

timid plover
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thanks @clever summit - I'm considering backing Glasgow too

clever summit
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Yeah, I do try to support projects that deserves it.

tropic inlet
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I,m working on deconstructed PIO for FPGAs

nova totem
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Any part of the RP2040 port that would be useful for me to poke at working on that needs to be done still? Now that I have a couple picos finally.

modern night
#

@timid plover I backed the glasgow and a couple of years ago I backed the icebreaker fpga. For me it'll be a digital logic analyzer at the very least, so it's a worthwhile tool

clever summit
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@nova totem The Arduino support? 🙂

left pier
nova totem
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I'll take a look at it, though i'm not sure I have anything to test it with offhand, but I can remedy that 🙂

smoky island
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Kmatch did some parallel port work in ESP32S2 recently I think. If you end up going down that road, kmatch might have some insight to offer.

nova totem
tame dew
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IIRC, Feather M4 has an RTC, but Wiznet5k doesn’t? So NTP would work assuming both....

gentle flint
#

watchdog perked my ears, I'm putting up the samd watchdog port as I listen

brazen quail
#

Will UART work over old skool pins (instead of or in addition to) through USB ?

gentle flint
#

all good, almost done

simple fractal
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I accidentally replied yes to a pending reboot. Now I’m relegated to my phone.

nova totem
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That's the worse, you hit Yes and then just go "no, I meant no!" as you watch everything close

strong acorn
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@tame dew don't all circuitpython processors have RTC?

nova totem
#

Is there a good display to test that with? (the parallel bus)

simple fractal
#

Updates are at 19%

tame dew
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@strong acorn something about the NTP library required ESP32SPI. Maybe it was another sockets thing

strong acorn
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@tame dew it used an esp-speciic function, but I think it will get standardized / abstracted so it will work UDP for any connection

tame dew
#

🧠 === mashed 🥔 . It’s Friday

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@strong acorn probably. I need to look again. Thanks for the reminder.

left pier
#

Adafruit is also a band ?

cinder wind
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Linux and audio issues?!? Inconceivable!

simple fractal
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I'll use my manjaro laptop while windows updates, lol

autumn turret
tame dew
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I’m a wired Ethernet curmudgeon. My use case is for my board farm and nobody gets WiFi in hardware controlled testing 😉

cinder wind
tame dew
#

Also POE is not very successful over WiFi lol

tropic inlet
#

Can you take advantage of the parallel read/write across memory banks to improve throughput on the Pico?

#

for fast audio

#

I guess you might do that for multi channel audio

gusty wedge
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Does it have any dsp that will allow to modify the audio?

opal summit
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My understanding is that M0's don't have DSP hardware

oak ether
#

Ah nice I can post here now. Ok, so as promised - here is episode 0 of the Bela DSP course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLRUyPBBJk

As I said, I'm not affiliated but I am a fan of Bela. The course is aimed towards using the Bela platform but frankly it's a great c++ and DSP course in general. I only have a pocketbeagle with the Bela mini cape but I've never really felt like it was lacking. For reference, Bela came from the experimental music section of Queen Mary's University in London, and the course on YouTube is created by their lecturer who collaborated on the project if I'm remembering correctly. @rapid hornet

YouTube
Bela Platform
0: Setting Up, C++ Real-Time Audio Programming with Bela

Lecture 0 of C++ Real-Time Audio Programming with Bela. This introductory lecture gives an overview of the course and takes you through your first Bela projects.

In this lecture:
Section 1: Overview of the course 0:00
Section 2: Materials you'll need and where to find support 4:31
Section 3: Getting started 10:22
Section 4: Updating your Bela b...

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tropic inlet
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does that use up a statemachine?

oak ether
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Oh erm.... bardoctorus = Ian from the Electromaker show for reference, hence me posting using that account on YouTube sometimes.

tame dew
#

CircuitPython on PocketBeagle 🤔

tropic inlet
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The Pico has built in Interpolators and integer dividers which could be useful for audio processing/resampling etc..

gaunt plume
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thanks @left pier 🙂

waxen thistle
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Good evening all you wonderful folks! adabot

#

[I know, I'm rather late. That's life for ya.]

tame dew
#

In case you aren’t pattern matching my avatar image, this is Tim in YouTube

left pier
#

All your favorite songs, now performed by the Chipmunks !

simple fractal
#

.

tropic inlet
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SIO should be leveraged for Audio on Pico

simple fractal
#

Sort of fixed

timid plover
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plan for I2S

gusty wedge
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I'm fixing (or trying to) a line6 pedalboard right know, and it has 2 clock, one at 24.576, and another at 22.576.

#

I'll try to show pictures in next weeks s&w, plus the sat stuff.

gaunt plume
left pier
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@simple fractal Are you trying to fix how you're name shows up in the livestream or are you a list of list ?

gusty wedge
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The ones on the line6 are temp compensated.

tame dew
gaunt plume
tropic inlet
#

8 samples rather than4

#

interleaved

strong acorn
tropic inlet
#

use the SIO in the stream?

nova totem
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Woo, just built CP for the RP2040 (okay wasn't that hard but still happy)

tame dew
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Thank you @gaunt plume and @strong acorn . I’m too new to this community to have that history.

#

I see my weekend beginning to have some structure

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I did some LWIP work on Cortex-M3 what feels like 1M years ago

#

Also an IronPython (.NET C#) contributor

gusty wedge
#

There's an old entry in jobs.adafruit, from adafruit, asking for people who know about filters. Can't remember if audio was the context.

tropic inlet
#

could you inject ramp PIO instructions for the transitions?

tame dew
#

Those kind of filters are so cool when they work. My 🧠 doesn’t get it either Scott

autumn turret
#

"Not trivial amount of work left" ... "done by tomorrow" Dang! Scott's a machine!

opal summit
#

Don't forget GPIO 15

left pier
#

Interesting that Hugo's name showed up correctly in the livestream. Single word with single upper case letter maybe?

clever summit
#

Hugo ftw

strong acorn
#

listen()

autumn turret
#

I'm not special, that's why I show up "normally"

tropic inlet
#

for audio fades etc..

grand tusk
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"".join([str(hasattr(board, "GP%d" % i))[:1] for i in range(29)])

clever summit
#

I am purple. Is that special?

opal summit
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You are a CircuitPythonista

timid plover
#

I suspect that your (@rapid hornet ) time codes drifted by 30 seconds ( compared to mine 🙂 ) over the 2 hours

left pier
#

Thanks @rapid hornet another great dive !

waxen thistle
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Thanks Scott!

clever summit
#

@opal summit Indeed I am.

timid plover
#

Thanks!

modern night
#

It's been lovely, circuit python on the pico is what I'm giving a shot tonight! Thanks for all of this!

modest vector
#

Thanks Scott. Just got my pico, will definitely try CP on it now.

ancient grotto
#

Thanks Scott

wind spoke
#

Thank you Scott. I have my two pico and Brexit did not affect too much the time for delivery.

tropic inlet
#

Thanks Scott,greatstream

cinder wind
#

Thanks @rapid hornet !

left pier
#

I've been setting a up RPi4 this entire stream.... still not done updating ...

brazen quail
#

Thanks Scott and adafruit !

cinder wind
#

We, the members of "[object Object]", salute you

rapid hornet
#

thanks all!

tropic inlet
#

lol

left pier
#

@cinder wind I want t-shirts now...

#

adafruitpride
[object Object]

tame dew
left pier
tame dew
#

I literally run an Ansible script to update my cluster everyday and it hasn’t achieved anything. Lol

tame dew
left pier
#

let's move to raspberry pi channel if you have mo' tips

coarse leaf
#

There is also pikvm

tame dew
#

I have the hobbyist kit on the way. I think it comes on Monday simultaneously with the Adafruit pico order.

smoky island
robust horizon
#

a tuple 🙂

#

"//" rounds down.```>>> 4//2, 5//2, 6//2
(2, 2, 3)

(-4)//2, (-5)//2, (-6)//2
(-2, -3, -3)

#

good! Thought I'd stop by

#

Yes, the idea is that there are "old fonts" that have neither, and "new fonts" which have both. I don't know why you'd implement a font that has only one.

pallid sail
#

int just drops the decimal , so I guess you could say everything is rounded down

#

yup

pallid sail
#

is there a repo or other resource that has some of font files ready to use?

# 
git remote rename origin foamyguy
upper sandal
#

if it's a grep it wants regexp I assume ?

pallid sail
#

That is a great trick

#

if you use quotes I think grep will treat everything inside as a string. That was why the * didn't work inside the quotes.

upper sandal
#
  • alone in a regexp is not valid, I think that's why it's treated as a literal star
pallid sail
#

Thanks!

#

yup, needs the / so /*.pcf should have worked.

upper sandal
#

.*

#

/* matches 0 or more /, . matches any character, .* matches 0 or more of any character

#

I use them so much, but I still get tripped from time to time, having a tool to test them as you write them is very useful 😉

ancient grotto
#

The cup to the left is trimmed also

pallid sail
#

what OS are you using?

#

cool thanks, how do you like the system 76. Always thought about buying one of them.

#

Thanks for the stream. Have a good rest of you weekend!

ancient grotto
#

maybe you should use a lambda function for passing the parameters?

#

yes give me minute

autumn turret
#

Good morning @smoky island glad I'm catching part of the stream!

#

Going good, thanks. Hope you're doing well!

#

Thanks for that quick demo on setting up PyCharm last night! SUPER helpful!

ancient grotto
#

..text=lambda: wrap_text_to_pixels(text, display.width))

autumn turret
#

It's crazy/annoying that you need to do that for every environment, but small pain point compared to not having the stubs at all

ancient grotto
#

Thank you for the stream and for the stubs video. very helpful.!

autumn turret
#

Thanks @smoky island

smoky island
#

Thanks all! Had a great time!

fluid drum
#

Thanks for streaming @smoky island . I was working so I couldn't interact, but I got a lot of value out of your stream. Looking forward to the next one!

autumn turret
#

10am works great for me, but I'm biased since you're conveniently in my time zone! At least when I'm not up until 5 on a work upgrade gone sideways.

It's a nice chill Saturday stream, and by golly, I accidentally always learn something!

smoky island
#

@fluid drum thanks for tuning in! very happy to hear you got value from it. Hoping to do what I can to help spread the knowledge I've picked up from this amazing community

upper sandal
#

ouch

ornate coyote
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sorry @upper sandal 😉

upper sandal
#

on my mac I use an Ubuntu virtual machine via docker, I can't help

ornate coyote
#

Yeah, posted al of that in the wrong channel.. sorry folks!

severe vigil
#

Going live in 5 minutes with a circuitpython GUI
https://youtu.be/vUG5in-YgkE

YouTube
TG-Techie
RGB Hex Color Mixer Code-along | TG-Gui | CircuitPython | PyPortal

Code along on a pyportal as we learn the TG-Gui graphics framework with this practical project.

Here's a list of files you'll need to have downloaded if you're coding-along. Don’t worry if you don't have them pre-downloaded, we'll download them on the stream:
From Github:

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umbral wraith
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We’re live on stream! Come join us!!!

sharp frost
#

I tuned in

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we only see half the browser window

#

other half is covered by the cameras

#

looks good now

#

no questions - looks good!

sharp frost
#

this is great

smoky island
#

What other kinds of widgets to you have built already?

#

The slider is looking nice 🙂. Is it built from progressbar? or more from scratch than that?

#

Kmatch made a really nice looking toggle switch recently.

sharp frost
#

wow cool watch!

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yes was very good thanks for sharing your project

autumn turret
#

Great job TG and Mango

severe vigil
#

thanks @autumn turret

open girder
#

DESK OF LADYADA - Stemma Sunday returns... with a CO2 monitor and TCA8418 Keyboard Breakout https://youtu.be/VpVMo1Qf-GA

YouTube
Adafruit Industries
Stemma Sunday returns... with a CO2 monitor and TCA8418 Keyboard Br...

Whew that was a week - but we're finally wrapping up January and what better way to hunker down in preparation for a snowstorm than to bring up another STEMMA QT board? this week its the TCA8418 keyboard matrix driver which is also going to make an appearance in a new mystery board we'll sneak-peak. We also have a cool CO2 monitor project coming...

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brazen quail
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Hello from 'rado !

pearl shoal
#

Greetings! I really find myself watching Sunday night more than Wednesday now... go figure!

brazen quail
#

Sweet dual sided ! This will be Great for cylindrical coordinates in sculptures. Purrrfect for casting sprues :-D

#

Dimensions ?

pearl shoal
#

Got my @open girder package in a Uline bubble pack yesterday... it threw me 🙂

brazen quail
#

2 part Silicone friendly ?

waxen thistle
#

Good evening all you wonderful folks!

pearl shoal
#

Question: Could Matrix Scanning move into PIO?

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Not on that board obviously... but on the Pico

raven hawk
#

That CO2 monitor is good for kinetics for alcohol and krebs cycle monitoring

pearl shoal
#

My new drone has a push-push that you then have to pull out... it's a mess

urban gale
#

I'm a big fan of the non-launching Teensy SD

pearl shoal
#

They have the case curved so when you push to release it, it is pressed against the case so you still have to pull it out.

urban gale
#

fewer moving parts = less stuff to break

pearl shoal
#

Thats kinda nice - no friction sliding on the contacts

waxen thistle
#

Jam packed week? That reminds me, i need to get some peanut butter. Thanks 🙂

#

Thanks for another excellent Sunday evening show 🙂

raven hawk
#

adafruit

urban gale
#

thx Adafruit! night all

fallow fractal
#

Hey there ! That CO2 monitor reminds me of something we saw on last week's Show and Tell ... 😉
I am finishing up a guide for the design that I showed you then, which I intend to post online soon. I was about to send it to you as well as per PT's request, but maybe it no longer is of any use, since you are about to post a guide of your own. What do you think ?
Let me know.
Stay safe !
(Pierre Carles from Paris)

strange mantle
#

@fallow fractal please continue to send info to PT. having more than one guide is fine. we can even link to yours as another example hardware configuration. thanks!

fallow fractal
fallow fractal
strange mantle
#

cool. no worries. whenever you get to it 🙂

lilac tusk
#

I'm thinking about streaming building up a board and doing some initial testing, anyone interested?

#

It'll probably be tomorrow night or maybe Thursday Night

autumn turret
#

Very interested here, if time and family conditions permit it.

lilac tusk
#

when is usually a good time? I'm thinking around 7:30pm Eastern Standard/4:30pm Pacific

autumn turret
#

Depending on how long you plan on going, that typically works well for me (Central Time).

lilac tusk
#

i'd probably go as long as people people still had questions or conversed 🙂

#

probably not longer than 2 hours

autumn turret
#

2 hours is typically a decent stretch, especially for folks not used to (or out of the habit) of streaming.

lilac tusk
#

Time flies when you’re debugging code 🙂

autumn turret
lilac tusk
#

it's funny that I can write 5 lines of code and it takes me hours to write it... and other times I can write 100 lines in like 5 minutes

#

good times

autumn turret
#

yeah, or take 10 time the amount of time to document/comment it in a reasonably rational manner so that future me, or another coworker, would know why it looks so goofy

lilac tusk
#

documentation is hit and miss for me lmao

#

I document really well when doing Arduino drivers because Doxygen is so nice

#

but python code... not as great at that

autumn turret
#

We don't generate any documentation, so I'm not that [un]lucky. Since I mostly write C# code, I try to add XML comments an all public, protected and internal (friend) methods, so that it's helpful to get the intellisense for it when it's called. There's already WAY too much bad code already, that it wouldn't be fair of me to add onto it

lilac tusk
#

lol

#

We have to document well in my job

autumn turret
#

Lucky. I suspect contractors don't come through so often then!

lilac tusk
#

I’ve no idea 😂

#

This is my 5th week on the job

autumn turret
#

Guess you'll find out sooner or later!

lilac tusk
#

maybe when i actually go on site

#

I know contractors work in the manufacturing side

#

probably not so much on the engineering side

autumn turret
#

Probably for the best!

lilac tusk
#

yeah, definitely

sly spade
#

hi guys

shadow epoch
#

Thank you magtag, for reminding me not to miss live broadcast!

lavish patrol
#

Hello, all.

#

Do we get Bleeps and Bloops on a Tuesday? 🤔

inner spade
#

Hello!

#

We get to hear a retro disco soundtrack today.

lavish patrol
#

Hmmm.

#

I bet Lars puts in an appearance...