live-broadcast-chat

[shell mason]

think Circuit Playground pizza

[clear matrix]

@waxen thistle Distinct possibility.

[deep osprey]

😯

[brisk pollen]

Fascinating @round willow

[turbid elbow]

Ah!

[river peak]

@round willow That's cool!

[frail cape]

nice

[onyx arrow]

Nicely done

[odd stream]

@round willow very cool

[open girder]

@here 10% off all items in stock code is GATES expires 1/31/18 @ 11:59pm ET #askanengineer https://youtu.be/q-mL-hFNO88 & http://www.adafruit.com

[waxen thistle]

Rockin' tunes, @open girder

[river peak]

@round willow Entirely off-topic question, but... What, exactly, is your calendar? It looked almost like a pinup cat.

[keen flame]

REEEEEE

who pinged me

[frail cape]

put that under the keys of a piano or something so that you have to play the right notes to open a safe

[remote delta]

Awesome! I missed the first couple of streams, but I'm not missing them all this week!

[round willow]

@river peak It's cat yoga

[solid wyvern]

adafruit is live at https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[remote delta]

Or maybe I will, if Youtube doesn't load for me.

[rapid hornet]

its on twitch too

[river peak]

@round willow Ah, ok! Makes sense, seeing it from across the room.

[waxen thistle]

Is that a thermal exhaust port, @glossy glacier ?

Looks to be no more than 2 meters wide 😉

[remote delta]

I'm assuming the code has something to do with good ol' Billy Bob Jobs Gate

Oh my, looks amazing!

[turbid elbow]

Adam, did ya resolve issue with signal interference?

[split gazelle]

Pixel dust is the perfect name for that library

[open girder]

pixel dust was named here, by the community, thank you!

[lapis depot]

A question. I am planning on making the ... either the directions backpack or modify it to make it into turn signals on my bike. My question is, with the neopixel strand, could a pair of light bars or neopixel singles be extendable from the strand? I want to have lights on the arms as well so that it can be seen from the front as well.

[noble grove]

Hello from Toronto

[gaunt plume]

hi @noble grove

[turbid elbow]

Biscuit!

Because dip it in tea!

[odd stream]

Circuit Playground Express or Classic shields.

[open girder]

hi hi @gaunt plume

[gaunt plume]

[odd stream]

I'm liking buscuit as suggested by @haughty quiver

[clear matrix]

agreed.

[turbid elbow]

My vote is for biscuit

[noble grove]

They were remote switches for electronics unfriendly environments.

[odd stream]

It's also a woodworking reference that fits: biscuits are little, mostly round-ish, pieces of wood that you use to join other pieces of wood together.

I watched this video series the other day... very well done.

[clear matrix]

woodworking biscuits are great. make the join like concrete

[viral sail]

lol @ he threw Uranus at Jupiter.

[gaunt plume]

the hololens project never fails to make me really excited about AR

[sweet kernel]

🍴

[odd stream]

@clear matrix These things join your CircuitPlayground to other hardware.

[clear matrix]

@odd stream I was already on board, but I think we've nailed it

[paper peak]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/01/30/how-computers-work-code-org-teachcode-codeorg-bill-gates-limor-fried-billgates-adafruit/

[deep osprey]

ACK!!!! My nightmares.

[turbid elbow]

I wonder if they'll get Barnucules in this project also

[deep osprey]

LOL

[paper peak]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzdnOPI1iJNcsRwJhvksEo1tJqjIqWbN-

[odd stream]

I can remember programming in machine language. Not assembly. machine... raw hex values (opcodes, data, etc)

[river peak]

You could even say this little thing is.... a bit important

[rapid osprey]

Thanks @paper peak

[deep osprey]

😮

[turbid elbow]

a byte important?

[open girder]

@rapid osprey hi hi!

[deep osprey]

only the MSB. the LSB is not.

[turbid elbow]

I wish I could say "I remember when someone used a binary clock"

but I know people who still do

[glossy glacier]

Something really odd is going on here

[rapid osprey]

Howdy @open girder and @rapid hornet. Enjoyed seeing @sterile mulch in Vancouver.

[odd stream]

Then again, I've designed CPUs and their instruction sets.

[paper peak]

@rapid osprey great to see you here!

[open girder]

@rapid osprey looks like we are doing something big at pycon 2018, will send ya preview!

[deep osprey]

@odd stream Uh.... i am not THAT smart.... at all.

[clear matrix]

@rapid osprey hi!

[rapid osprey]

Ooh. Cool.

[turbid elbow]

Adam, something micro you can't zoom in on with your SEM?

[rapid osprey]

howdy @clear matrix

[gaunt plume]

@odd stream thanks for bringing back the nightmare(s) of machine lang. and cpu design 😉

[odd stream]

@gaunt plume Ya.. I really enjoyed that stuff, though.

[gaunt plume]

(nods)

[rapid osprey]

Great work happening on CircuitPython @paper peak and team. Wish I had more (any) time 😉

[open girder]

@rapid osprey sent 😃

[rapid osprey]

Thanks!

[turbid elbow]

0-255 per pixel

[gaunt plume]

that zoom in on ladyada's pink hair, and them getting the color code from it. quite funny

[deep osprey]

A frame says a million bits.

[split gazelle]

The graphics for this are really well done

[turbid elbow]

Don't want 64bit audio?

[waxen thistle]

@split gazelle Aren't they though? I was just thinking that -- the production value on this video is really top notch.

[deep osprey]

VERY good production value

[muted mesa]

yeah. post-pro team was...pro. 😄

[turbid elbow]

{pun alert}

[rapid osprey]

@open girder OMG. ❤ 🐍

[open girder]

yup

PSF approved 😃

[shell mason]

Ladyada was like child in candy store when she get those circuitboards

[odd stream]

@shell mason I'm like a child in a candy store when my @open girder packages show up.

[gaunt plume]

I didn't expect this video to go this in depth...woah

[deep osprey]

OMG, This is a better education than ITT Tech.....

[full lance]

hey all

[turbid elbow]

Tbh, this could be used to explain for Ham Radio

[rapid hornet]

hi @full lance

[shell mason]

@rapid osprey have you used Azure Notebooks?

[odd stream]

@gaunt plume wait for the adders, &multiplers,

[river peak]

An adder? I don't see any snakes!

[waxen thistle]

Seriously @gaunt plume -- this is pretty rad.

[rapid osprey]

Yes @shell mason . They're based on Jupyter 😄

[odd stream]

They conveniently ignore overflow/carry

[shell mason]

@rapid osprey I like also the Azure Machine Learning workbench

[remote delta]

Just gonna say, I can't watch it right now, the video is too choppy. I'll try watching it next time on a different machine.

[gaunt plume]

it's worth another watch, or five

[rapid osprey]

Yes. They are doing nice work @shell mason

[brisk pollen]

I am seeing my entire eduction I got in college in a short instructional video. Humbling.

[paper peak]

quite a lot presented in 6 minutes

[rapid osprey]

The videos are awesome.

[turbid elbow]

With easy understanding

[rapid osprey]

Build stuff!

[muted mesa]

BRAVO!!

[odd stream]

I love the call to action at the end.

[inner spade]

Wonderful!

[waxen thistle]

👏

[clear matrix]

So well done!

[shell mason]

BIll Gates

Bill Gates and LadyAda

[waxen thistle]

Leek gates.

[brisk pollen]

How many input does a Bill Gate have?

[inner spade]

open the gates to understanding

[shell mason]

Gates

puck

[gaunt plume]

@haughty quiver is that a hackaday shirt in the cnc vid? looks a bit different than their usual logo

[shell mason]

@odd stream or like having christmas when new boards coming

[haughty quiver]

No, close logo though! It was a crew t-shirt for an animated movie I worked on at Disney called Planes.

[gaunt plume]

I might've seen that 😉

[haughty quiver]

The Jolly Wrenches logo

:)

and when we were working on it I thought, hmmm this is a familiar logo... HaD :)

[gaunt plume]

I just like wrench-based logos a lot. Pirates are fun

[eager sapphire]

Shouldn’t the first one be called the Zeroth Annual?

[shell mason]

@odd stream how tall it is with those smaller ones

[gaunt plume]

bill is doing such great work for the AT community, this is fantastic.

[turbid elbow]

schoolgirl scream

I wish I can go! ! !

[rapid osprey]

@gaunt plume

Totally agree

[muted mesa]

I'm only like 4 hours away!

its Kyleigh!!

[turbid elbow]

I'm like 9 hours away

Hellos Kyleigh!

[full lance]

they should have a red door with an angry face that shuts harder like we all did when we were kids

[gaunt plume]

I like the wheel-like mechanism at the base of the door to open it

[turbid elbow]

I think that'll be later update

[river peak]

@gaunt plume Agreed

[turbid elbow]

"Angry door slam"

[river peak]

Super simple.

[eager sapphire]

Truly a noble endeavor

[muted mesa]

they did a great job with it. yeah, you could go actuator...but harder to fix if it fails.

and more $$$

[turbid elbow]

Next is closet door eh?

[deep osprey]

I👍

[waxen thistle]

Very cool!

[rapid osprey]

Code+Community 😃

[gaunt plume]

that poster is 💯

[muted mesa]

i might have to try and bust out of work early...

[brisk pollen]

I recently read that Python has nothing to do with snakes but was named after Monty Python.

[rapid osprey]

Hoping my Friday morning meetings wrap up quickly and I can join the Hackaday chat.

[deep osprey]

Because of its JAGGED TEATH OF DEATH?

[odd stream]

Snakes on a (ground) plane

[rapid osprey]

@brisk pollen Yes Guido likes Monty Python

[gaunt plume]

I'll chill in the chat (watch it passively) on friday, lookin fwd to it

[rapid hornet]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[paper peak]

it's a text chat

[haughty quiver]

Me too, @gaunt plume wrench logos are timeless

[gaunt plume]

@paper peak err, watch..the text scroll (like discord). Dunno what the correct term for it is

[spring heath]

I tried to get him a fake bitcoin but it was too big

[eager sapphire]

Did /could someone post the URL for that chat?

[gaunt plume]

https://hackaday.com/2018/01/31/friday-hack-chat-circuit-python/

[eager sapphire]

Thank you, @gaunt plume

[waxen thistle]

Unicorn blockchain.

[glossy glacier]

I really want to see beyond the epoxy...

[eager sapphire]

That patch of blue RTV?

[turbid elbow]

Will you get down to solder joints?

[lethal lagoon]

happy wednesday y'all!

[glossy glacier]

No, the blue is a reflection off of my monitor

[clear matrix]

@lethal lagoon hi!

[waxen thistle]

"Beyond the Epoxy" - a SEM story.

[muted mesa]

happy wednesday to you too, @lethal lagoon

[lethal lagoon]

hi @clear matrix! i made it in time for factory peek! so awesome 😃

[turbid elbow]

Next thing you know, there'll be a slide show of zooms & music to go with that

[glossy glacier]

I'm not sure how far I would take the acid. I'm going to have to be pretty carful as this chip has a lot more metal in it than most

[river peak]

I swear a significant reason why Adafruit is so successful is the awesome amount of energy Lady Ada has. She's always so excited and eager and it's AWESOME. In one of these videos, there's a lot of people the camera goes by. And then there's Lady Ada, who waves energetically.

[viral sail]

Nice crescent Moonset

[gaunt plume]

@river peak a lot of people in Fab wear headphones/are listening to podcasts and doing time-sensitive tasks (especially by the machine line). but I agree!

[river peak]

Oh, yeah

[spring heath]

high energy, high innovation, all open

[river peak]

But it was just her enthusiasm

[gaunt plume]

I've been owning a tesla vicariously through @hard hollow 's instagrams lately...

[open girder]

we are all ladyada. we all make something. we can all make something. we can all make a difference, together.

[turbid elbow]

3D printing, affected mm by mm

[muted mesa]

i am neegan? 😛

[gaunt plume]

wait, the charging flap of the tesla opens when you get close to it?

[river peak]

Apparently

[paper peak]

i think he pressed a button on the plug

[full lance]

its always inspiring seeing people tackle projects and finish them. my laptop is a graveyard of ideas

[lethal lagoon]

yay i love seeing the iterative process of design

[river peak]

Rawr!

[muted mesa]

rawr!!!

lol

[gaunt plume]

@full lance never too late to dig through it and find one 😃

[waxen thistle]

that is so cute!

[split gazelle]

There’s a fun heart you can print for flexi Rex to hold too

[full lance]

@gaunt plume true my man

[clear matrix]

Aww

[muted mesa]

hey, you need the troublemaker (at least that's what i tell my boss, often)

[brisk pollen]

I know it is old joke but I figured out how a Bill Gate operates, the input is software and it amplifies it into a lot of money for the output.

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3723

[gaunt plume]

I literally just got an echo today from a guy on craigslist for $40 (good deal!) and have been shouting at it in off-time

[muted mesa]

lol

"Amazon has determined you need Hydroxcut"

[spring heath]

Black is the new black

[viral sail]

Super Off - I like it.

[normal plover]

All it says is "Buy black t-shirts"

[turbid elbow]

Wait, privacy is a thing?

[normal plover]

Nobody would EVER be able to hack on of those

[gaunt plume]

It's kinda creepy, the light ring on the echo gen2 rotates whenever I talk...

[forest pebble]

aw, it would be nice to have a grounded version as well

[waxen thistle]

"Amazon has ordered a shaver for you."

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3692

[muted mesa]

i got an echo dot for xmas. still not connected...

[forest pebble]

thanks amazon

[odd stream]

@waxen thistle lol

Alas, the real utility of these devices is that they are always on.

[waxen thistle]

I have a dot that I got a year ago. It's a glorified alarm clock and thermometer.

and timer!

[normal plover]

If that doesn't bother you, I suggest you read "1984"

[gaunt plume]

@odd stream I may have just given your instagram a follow, good stuff!

[muted mesa]

I use a TRRS jack for I2C with a 6' cable

[odd stream]

V2 of my smarthome will see people, and always be listening.

[full lance]

i think the only way to actually shut it off is to remove the head from the body

[odd stream]

v3 will have camera to do facial recognition.

[river peak]

A USB Key.

A physical pun.

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3714

[river peak]

I must have one.

[shell mason]

we are all makers

[spring heath]

Key in Adafruit Black

[split gazelle]

Ohh I have one of those for work!

[odd stream]

@gaunt plume It's usually a mix of food & tech.

[waxen thistle]

I got one of those back in the day from Lacie, it's awesome.

[gaunt plume]

I like that 😃

[turbid elbow]

contacts don't get scratched?

[woeful veldt]

eeeeeee

[waxen thistle]

YES! That's awesome

[lethal lagoon]

small enough to be portable but not so small you'll lose it

[odd stream]

I like that

[shell mason]

think if it was USB key with fingerprint sensor

[split gazelle]

Yay!

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3461

[gaunt plume]

I have one sitting on my nightstand right now, it's really beautiful with the wood mount

[turbid elbow]

oooh, that looks great for solder lessons

or just decorative in house

[normal plover]

It looked like your every day, plain old Metro.....could it be what we have been waiting 4 (as in M4)?

[waxen thistle]

Solder lessons and oscilloscope lessons on hardware they've built.

[eager sapphire]

Getting all nostalgic now

[gaunt plume]

ps.: the page numbers are correct. I opened my copy to check it.

[brisk pollen]

Wow that is really cool. I love it.

[odd stream]

These kits bring back memories. I learned electronics from his Radio Shack books.

[normal plover]

I miss solder kits

[odd stream]

@normal plover my life these days is one big soldering kit 😃

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/193

[turbid elbow]

Dastels, coding also

[shell mason]

Cool

[normal plover]

Aww, not what I am waiting 4, but still cool

[shell mason]

@odd stream think those SHIELD things in the kit with playground

Circuit Playgroind kit

[waxen thistle]

If you lost the usb key and picked that digital lock, would that make you a hacker?

[versed mountain]

Questions list:

Why don't you have any information on other staff on the About Us page on the website?

How reliable is the RFID shield (could it be used as a permanent installment as a door lock)?

[onyx arrow]

Any chance you will make touch sensors single break out with an active LOW so it can be used to turn off a power boost? - https://www.adafruit.com/product/1375

[verbal kindle]

Looking for a way to detect when my mailbox is opened. Something like a magnetic reed switch would be great BUT the switch needs to be normally open and only close the contacts MOMENTARILY when the magnet is removed. Any suggestions?

[summer sequoia]

I'm making an internet-connected RGB lamp that I'd like others to be able to make as well. Since I'm looking to make it as simple as possible, I'm considering using a wifi feather along with the NeoPixel FeatherWing. I can't decide between the ESP8266 and the ESP32. What are the reasons I'd choose one over the other? Also, if I go with the ESP32, would I need to change the data pin like you need to with the ESP8266?

[muted mesa]

Question from "Kalman Sotanyi" in YT: i want to ask, if i have of front of me my pitop, ho do i start it? when i power it up, 3 raspderry shows of the left of zhe screnn

[versed mountain]

@open girder I created a google doc of Ask an Engineer questions

[odd stream]

@turbid elbow Lots of solder. Lots of code.

[gaunt plume]

@verbal kindle Could maybe use a Hall Effect sensor or a light-break circuit?

[onyx arrow]

Thanks guys

[fallow fractal]

Some early desktop calculators used reed switches for the keyboard. They can be responsive.

[noble grove]

what is the difference between a USB micro and a USB OTG cable?

[sweet kernel]

What is the best technology to keep track of 10,000 wristbands in the same area

[tacit pine]

what kind of tracking did you have in mind?

[abstract valve]

Who fabricates your pcbs?

[fallow fractal]

http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/fri1112.html reed switches in not in the keyboard of this calculator. The article mentions this departure from a usual prctice at the time.
One of these uses reed switches, though:
http://www.johnwolff.id.au/calculators/Canon/Canon.htm

Some decent photographs depicting the technology:
https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/magnetic-reed-switches-t1596.html

[gaunt plume]

@fallow fractal massdrop recently had a reed-switch keyboard drop, I was surprised to see it

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for another wonderful evening of shows, @fallow fractal !

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night.

[obtuse hornet]

good show !

[clear matrix]

Goodnight all!

[muted mesa]

great show @open girder. continue being wonderful!

[split gazelle]

Thanks for a great set of shows!

[normal plover]

And if we don't see you tomorrow...

[shell mason]

brent is grounded?

[haughty quiver]

night all -- see you tomorrow

[shell mason]

Bless you LadyAda

[gaunt plume]

@shell mason is true.

[rapid osprey]

Goodnight!

[eager sapphire]

Manana John

[lethal lagoon]

cheers all! have a great week! thanks as always @open girder

[waxen thistle]

Phil is a punner too!

[gaunt plume]

cheers all, gnite!

[shell mason]

pay the bill gates

[rapid hornet]

@river peak @open girder is trying to match you

[open girder]

10% off all items in stock code is GATES expires 1/31/18 @ 11:59pm ET #askanengineer http://www.adafruit.com @open girder

[muted mesa]

PT laid down the gauntlet @river peak! PUN-OFF!!

[river peak]

@rapid hornet Maybe I'll have to bill them!

[odd stream]

Breadboard Biscuit silk screen

[open girder]

thank you everyone.

[river peak]

Also, I'm totally down for visiting @open girder for an AAE pun-off.

[clear matrix]

@odd stream Excellent!

[urban gale]

'night, all

[waxen thistle]

@river peak Sounds like the Jobs' cutout for you.

[river peak]

@open girder Thank YOU and Lady Ada

[odd stream]

This makes Wed evening a high point of the week!

[shell mason]

why i think Radiofruit when i see that @odd stream

[gaunt plume]

@odd stream ooh, could use some wavy/squiggly traces for fun

[river peak]

@waxen thistle I think I'd turn out to be the apple of people's eyes

[lethal lagoon]

haha i hit a time warp and my youtube was like 3 minutes behind - i was like what pun where

[odd stream]

@clear matrix There's still a few alignment tweaks to do

[muted mesa]

i hate it when i don't know the joke. sorry @lethal lagoon

[odd stream]

The proto biscuit will take a bit more imagination.

[noble grove]

can somebody recommend a supply for the micro OTG hub (ID 2991) to power a PI 0 W?

[river peak]

@odd stream It almost looks like "Designed by David Astels - BAT" as though you're secretly a bat in disguise.

[muted mesa]

have you ever seen him and that batdude in the same place at the same time? 🦇

[lethal lagoon]

@muted mesa hee hee i thought it was just too clever for me and i missed it

[gaunt plume]

@noble grove I use this for my pi(s): https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/power-1051/power-supplies-1088/raspberry-pi-official-universal-power-supply-5.1v-2.5a-black/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw76jGBRDm1K-X_LnrmuEBEiQA8RXYZ_fS3RaUHOVASRxEYMxhe-bcn_UTHaO5qkGp-GnKcysaAgy-8P8HAQ

[muted mesa]

ahhh mann. now it's back to documentation... 📖

[gaunt plume]

for all podcast downloaders out there - there's a new-ish electronics podcast called the spark gap that I've been binging this week (http://thesparkgap.net/the-spark-gap-podcast-episode-53/)

[noble grove]

@gaunt plume I want to use the switch in the hub to turn the Pi and off.

[turbid elbow]

Shhh @river peak

[muted mesa]

@noble grove you'll want a different approach. unless they changed something, there is a good chance you'll corrupt the SD card with a hard shutdown.

[odd stream]

Hmmm... quick question... how relevant is the CircuitPlayground Classic? Connection labels are different, so that would mean 2 versions of the silk screen.

[paper peak]

used extensively for code.org

[noble grove]

@muted mesa so a soft shut down and then just leave it plugged in?

[paper peak]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/06/23/code-org-has-launched-new-cs-discoveries-course-with-adafruits-circuit-playground/

https://code.org/circuitplayground

[muted mesa]

@noble grove it's usually handled with 2 GPIOs and a program. basically sends the shutdown code to the OS, then pulls power. i'll get you a link to something (there's more than one floating around; this is just the one I have a bookmark for)

https://mausberry-circuits.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage

[fallow fractal]

@odd stream of the three, the cable interface shield would be of the most use to me (I'd mangle the breadboard interface one because of the large overhang).

[gaunt plume]

maybe a right-angle interface for the puck...

[noble grove]

@muted mesa so it's not recommended to use a RPi with just a phone charger?

[odd stream]

@fallow fractal I think that depends on your breadboard.

[summer sequoia]

Do Feather Wings come with the Short Feather Male Headers? The product shots seem to indicate that they do, but I just want to be sure before ordering!

[river peak]

@odd stream You can do what US Speedometers do. One ring of labels for CPX, a second ring of (Different oriented?) labels for CPC

[odd stream]

@fallow fractal but I know what you mean

[rapid hornet]

@summer sequoia I don't think they are particularly short. afaik only the female headers vary in height

[summer sequoia]

@rapid hornet sorry, these are the ones I'm talking about. https://www.adafruit.com/product/3002

[rapid hornet]

oh I'm wrong!

[fallow fractal]

@odd stream The cable can be short and run to the same spot on a breadboard. That's usually how I do a 16x2 LCD interconnect to a breadboard.

[rapid hornet]

I don't think those are the default

[summer sequoia]

https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/970x728/3201-03.jpg

[rapid hornet]

they look a little longer to me in the photo

[summer sequoia]

Ah, but it comes with those headers?

[rapid hornet]

yeah, they are just longer than the short ones

[noble grove]

@summer sequoia Those look like standard header pins

[rapid hornet]

I usually pick up the stacking headers while I'm at it

[summer sequoia]

Yeah, I'm picking up an ESP32 with the stacking headers, but I wasn't sure if I needed to buy an additional set of male headers to attach a feather wing.

[noble grove]

@rapid hornet I want stacking short headers.

[summer sequoia]

thanks for your help @rapid hornet!

[rapid hornet]

np

nope, it comes with standard ones

[fallow fractal]

@summer sequoia Pretty much everything they sell (that is a circuit board accepting standard headers) comes with headers of some sort, and several have alternative headers listed on the same page where you select the main module. The headers that ship all look the same length, from one product to the next.

[rapid hornet]

@noble grove you can buy them if you want them

[noble grove]

@rapid hornet Part #s?

[rapid hornet]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3002

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2940

[noble grove]

those aren't stacking headers

[rapid hornet]

ah short stacking

[noble grove]

yes

[rapid hornet]

I can't read 😄

email support with the suggestion!

[noble grove]

a (not so) tall order, yes?

[rapid hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gaunt plume]

@rapid hornet I went bouldering at a bouldering gym this week (earlier)...It was, strenuous

[rapid hornet]

I love the pun though 😃

@gaunt plume gotta do it more then

[noble grove]

bows.

[gaunt plume]

yeah, I love how it's basically problem solving...but vertical

[lethal lagoon]

short stack = pancakes

[fallow fractal]

https://www.adafruit.com/category/831

[noble grove]

@lethal lagoon ❤

[river peak]

@gaunt plume A bouldering gym? Sounds like it rocks.

[gaunt plume]

😮

😄

[lethal lagoon]

omg a pancake emoji well that makes my week

[muted mesa]

@noble grove sorry. i was away for a minute. you can use any power supply that gives enough power. just recommended to shut the OS down before pulling power.

[shell mason]

🥞 Circuit Playground

[waxen thistle]

I think all project naming brainstorming sessions should be done right before mealtime. 😃

[shell mason]

CIrcuit Playground Chips

@waxen thistle you know those potato chips

[river peak]

Circuit Playground Pringles?

[shell mason]

could be hehe

you could make a WiFi antenna from pringles

[turbid elbow]

Something tells me, some projects are going to look like food

[river peak]

@turbid elbow Depends on how hungry you are

[turbid elbow]

I’m wondering when someone will try to screen on a board to make it appear like food

Like Dastel with biscuit

[paper peak]

from a pringles can: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/

• many other links

[sweet kernel]

Don't invent while your hungry. Hungry people tend to create whatever produces the most food at the given time. It's better to create a rationing system. So first you need a supply of food, than you need a rationing system. For instance, if you had a years supply of food how do we develop a rationing system to make the years supply last 2 years. Otherwise, your just going to create things which ultimately result in forces that will instantly produce and dislocated from somewhere else a 10 year supply of food, that is going to go bad a year later wasting a 9 year supply of food

[river peak]

Or you eat the 10 year supply in 1 year, because otherwise it would be wasted.

And then regret everything

[shell mason]

http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/post/antenna_on_the_cheap_er_chip.html

[odd stream]

@noble grove See https://learn.adafruit.com/digital-sand-dotstar-circuitpython-edition/an-aside-shorty-stackers

[sweet kernel]

Ya thats usually what happens a 10 years supply of food will get eaten up in one year.

[noble grove]

@odd stream Thanks. Looks like that might be made workable.

[sweet kernel]

However, if you make a rationing system too tight, there won't be enough infrastructure to get the 10 year supply of food consumed before it spoils. You gotta count up all of the steps required to get each person through the line.

You gotta have what people need when they need it. If your going to sell a million products. You gotta sell it to them all at the same time. If a million people want to buy your product at the same time. Do you have the ability to fill the order.

[noble grove]

@muted mesa So that would also work with the switched micro OTG hub, yes?

[sweet kernel]

First thing is the website would have to be up. If it goes down when traffic is that high it defeats the purpose.

[noble grove]

@muted mesa Of course, if I could fit one of those shut-down circuits inside the hub case that would be sweet!

[sweet kernel]

I find that a lot of people on the internet sell a lot of products that have no useful purpose to consumers

[turbid elbow]

@shell mason Next thing you know, people will be making yagi antennaes for fona

& use it to contact in locations where phone towers are down

[shell mason]

@turbid elbow think those what @odd stream do and add antenna in pringles can plus fona or wi-fi and wow

i bet all that set could fit to Pringles can

[turbid elbow]

hmmm . . . I wonder if his biscuit will fit in the pringles can

[muted mesa]

@noble grove yes, that would work with the/any hub. but, you would turn the hub off after the RPi was shutdown.

[turbid elbow]

"The Food phone"

Yea, I was just remembering talking to someone about idea of that project

[sweet kernel]

We can make the electronic rainbow rescue.

[turbid elbow]

electronic rainbow rescue?

[noble grove]

@muted mesa Of course. Thanks. I will have to see if there is room inside for a shut-down circuit. (or get my son to print a new back)

[sweet kernel]

Ya its like a 911 number for people who are hungry. If someone is so hungry they are thinking about robbing a bank, they call a number. The operater looks in that area, than sends someone to that location with food.

[turbid elbow]

In disaster areas, there's usually shelters with food readily available

[sweet kernel]

It's not hard to find 1,000,000 people with no food and money. Willing to accept something that is free. If you can find 1000 people with $50 bucks to spend you have to plan for a year to get them all at the same place.

So if you have say 1,000,000 people who you can easily reach, who will use whatever product they can get for free. How can I make a product that will generate $1 each. I suppose that if the product is clever it could advertise another product.

[odd stream]

Current status

[turbid elbow]

Speak of the problem

Dastels, I think I missed part of where this is with fona?

Ok, I rewatched to see what I might've missed, I didn't, it's biscuits

[sweet kernel]

You missed everything

Your so far off in space that it must be above your head and under your toes

[turbid elbow]

Considering how many discord servers I track & things going on

I can't track every project each person does

[sweet kernel]

Well than you must of missed a collective thought that came from somewhere you don't know.

[odd stream]

@turbid elbow Fona? .. nope. CircuitPLayground

[turbid elbow]

Yea, I caught that before, but mention of your biscuits to fona & wifi had me confuzzled

[sweet kernel]

There are other people in the world, even though some people feel as though they know it all. There are some people who still know things that you might not be privy too.

I live out in the woods and the trees have ears out here

[turbid elbow]

& I'm perfectly fine with my infinity of not knowledge in this world as long as I can learn as I wish

[sweet kernel]

Ya me too, I just like sitting here learning something new.

Though sometimes something new is something old. It's just a matter of what people have in their hand really. Most people have whats in their hand, and want whats in their friends hands.

[noble grove]

@muted mesa What do you think of these? Pimoroni OnOff SHIM for Raspberry Pi (PRODUCT ID: 3581)

[muted mesa]

yep. same thing concept wise as what I posted earlier. and cheaper! 💸

[wild urchin]

It feels like it might be fun to stack several shims on one Zero.

[odd stream]

Redesigned cable & proto biscuits look good. Breadboard biscuits are going to be a little different. I think @fallow fractal might like what @gaunt plume and I came up with.

[odd stream]

New biscuit PCBs ordered, in classic and express versions..

[river peak]

Express Biscuit. Mmmm.

[shell mason]

somehow the biscuit sounds wrong

the code.org what was showed in ASK for Engineer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAx_6-wdslM&list=PLzdnOPI1iJNcsRwJhvksEo1tJqjIqWbN-

[odd stream]

I like biscuit. The woodworking meaning works: joining things together, in this case a CircuitPlayground and other circuits.

And they’re round like a cookie (“biscuit” in the UK)

[inner spade]

Mmmm. Biscuits and gravy.

[odd stream]

I am working on a different design for the breadboard version... it looks more like a tombstone... not sure where to go with that...

[inner spade]

Toast.

[shell mason]

Toasts

[odd stream]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/a8/94/c9a8946e96c70f7d1c8ef7b667f2abc5--rip-tombstone-decorated-cookies.jpg

[shell mason]

hehe

[turbid elbow]

Tombstone biscuit

[shell mason]

Tombstone biscuit reactor

[paper peak]

@odd stream still looking for a generic name for that board shape? Maybe it's a "merry-go-round" board (or "carousel")

[shell mason]

with @odd stream showed shield for circuit playground now you could make @sterile mulch Arc Reactor

[odd stream]

@paper peak For playgrounds...

[turbid elbow]

I’m hooked on biscuit as name

[shell mason]

well it have that playground in circuit

@turbid elbow you see biscuits in playground?

[odd stream]

@paper peak It implies motion to me...

[paper peak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout_(play)

[turbid elbow]

@shell mason in mine, yes

[odd stream]

I'm still liking biscuit... round like a cookie, and joins things together (woodworking biscuits)

[paper peak]

gazebo

biscuit is good too

[shell mason]

@paper peak I got Reactor now

ReactPy

[turbid elbow]

I have used biscuits in making a gazebo in a park

[shell mason]

I had chips so much but I got thinkin reactor too

[odd stream]

I'll leave it stil/simmer until the next batch of boards arrive. The proto is a pain since most of the space is occupied by holes.

[paper peak]

the posts around the edge are what's unusual beyond an ordinary biscuit. If you made a hole in the center it could be a doughnut or a record or a platter. but biscuit is cuter

[shell mason]

https://giphy.com/gifs/q4mY682kQAQRW

[paper peak]

also looks like a circuit tent from the top

[odd stream]

So now I have breadboard (not the new design yet), cable, and proto; each in classic & express versions.

The only difference between classic & express versions is the connection labels on the silkscreen.

[turbid elbow]

You keeping the line to corresponding hole obvious so idiots like me don’t goof that up?

[odd stream]

@turbid elbow On the breadboard & cable versions the board is heavily labelled so you attach it the right way, and the headers are labeled on the back (outside) surface.

[shell mason]

@odd stream the Tony Stark Arc reactor first version had cable in it in the back

[odd stream]

@shell mason yes, that's right... I'd forgotten that.

@turbid elbow The protos have the holes arounf the edge labelled (as well as indications of how to attach it), those connections are run to adjacent holes in the grid. Power connections run to 3 adjacent holes each.

[turbid elbow]

I meant in the protos where you attach to corresponding hole with lead to cpc

[odd stream]

@turbid elbow I tried to make it as fool proof as possible if you stop to read the silkscreen.

[shell mason]

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/c7aa_iron_man_fx_arc_reactor.jpg as this is the first one

MK2 https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/82/95/4a82955f7e34a9f5390603f946a78e5b--iron-man-arc-reactor-reactor-arc.jpg

[turbid elbow]

Oh deer, I think instructables to make that is coming now

I see scrapping alternator for wire, 3D printed clear filament & CNC

[odd stream]

I've seen a couple projects to make one

[turbid elbow]

I have also, but how many are dead on accurate of the display version?

Well, within open source

[fallow fractal]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell (YT only) - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
John Park's Workshop - 4pm EST Thursdays
Desk of Tony D - Evenings PST Fridays

[fallow fractal]

audio is great

[eager sapphire]

All good

[fallow fractal]

S/N ratio good but I have uncalibrated absolute volume. No distortion heard and doesn't seem weak.

http://adafru.it/discord

[eager sapphire]

Can you post that address on YT, @fallow fractal

[fallow fractal]

No I am not logged in there and am busy with hands doing other stuff

[eager sapphire]

It won’t let me post that

[solid wyvern]

adafruit is live at https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[fallow fractal]

I'm not close to the keyboard (to type) but can see the video from where I am and hear just fine.

[shell mason]

so many neopixels

[odd stream]

Nice approach to alignment

[shell mason]

@odd stream now you make arc reactor and pringles antenna

[odd stream]

We'll all know if John develops a bald spot long before he does.

[shell mason]

that aligment looks like umbrella corporation logo

[eager sapphire]

We should probably keep that a secret, @odd stream

[odd stream]

@eager sapphire I didn't say that we should tell him.

[eager sapphire]

Ok, just making sure.

[fallow fractal]

Say hello to my little friend..

[odd stream]

@haughty quiver Yeah. I'm all set to do another test recording tonight.

Printing assembly jigs and braces like this is another reason to have a 3D printer on hand.

OUT TO IN DUDE!

[flint moon]

YAY

[odd stream]

Read twice, solder once.

[eager sapphire]

I think I could use some supervision while assembling, now and then

[inner spade]

We're watching your every move.

[eager sapphire]

Yikes

Ok FINE then where did I leave the epoxy?

Might as well get some use out of it

Two tubes of loctite missing

[odd stream]

Yeah... It'll take me a while before I start live streaming. Got to get comfortable about workign on camera first.

[eager sapphire]

You have a good test audience here, we could even do some practice heckling, if you think that would help

[odd stream]

I know... It feels a lot like stage fright.

[eager sapphire]

Pretty warm crowd here I think, that’ll help

[odd stream]

I've done conference talks before, but not having any sense of the audience feels different.

[eager sapphire]

Yeah, I imagine it’s a little weird

Last big conference I was in, we were all streaming to each other. I was sure to wear a bathrobe to that one.

[odd stream]

I figure recording will give me a chance to get familiar with the cameras/software, etc. I'm using OBS to record, which is what I'll be using for streaming.

[eager sapphire]

Actually no, that was at work, so I wore clothes.

That’s great that the two environments are identical, you can study the stream and look for lighting/sound/angle stuff

That is a great idea. I went with just an anti-static mat over the wood, so have to use heavy bases for the vise stuff

[normal plover]

@haughty quiver Well, if you ever need an idea you can build a count down timer for your show

I wonder if Sean meant to say "hi" in youtube chat

[odd stream]

@haughty quiver The HoverCam Ultra 8?

[fallow fractal]

I noticed that grid board is made by Alvin -- they do drafting supplies. I'm guessing it has no thermal properties (as for soldering base mat).

[eager sapphire]

Is it anti-static?

So dry here in colorado i have to use a wrist strap and a grounded mat

[fallow fractal]

Haven't looked it up in a catalog but there's more than one presenter I've seen use a similar gridded mat.

[onyx arrow]

Hey John. Take a multimeter and check the power is coming through

Trace it back to see where the bad solder joint is

[fallow fractal]

analog ohm meter movement is the way to go to check for intermittents. Beeper's good when there's a known fault that is hard to get it to temporarily connect properly.

[onyx arrow]

And make sure it’s not shorting

[normal plover]

GROUND FIRST

oops, didn't really mean to 'shout'

ooh, it's wasn't connected anyway

Does his Metro have power?

[fallow fractal]

Yeah he had the small cluster NPX lit from it.

I've been using the Charge Doctor inline with the USB power supply to smoke test projects.

It has an ammeter mode.

[eager sapphire]

Those are really handy, @fallow fractal

[fallow fractal]

Well the Charger Doctor does show a very large difference in current when the Raspberry Pi is connected vs other circuit boards. It definitely works and is fairly responsive. Wish I could lock it into ammeter mode (it alternates).

[eager sapphire]

I think there’s one at adafruit that displays both V & A simultaneously

[normal plover]

Is it possible the metro isn't running a neopixel sketch/program?

[fallow fractal]

He lit a smaller cluster without changing anything only a few minutes ago. Just before the 'tear down'. ;)

cap is not series its parallel John

he's got it in series.

Yes bridge the PSU leads with the cap

[normal plover]

I think stripe in ground and other in 5v

[inner spade]

Cap across +5 and gnd

series resistor to limit inrush on Din

[fallow fractal]

Right. What @inner spade said.

[normal plover]

I think the large ring is

[fallow fractal]

Try another NPX ring entirely.

[inner spade]

np, @haughty quiver . We tune in to see the whole story.

[fallow fractal]

Hopefully the short in the large ring protected the input to the micro inside the first NPX. ;)

[eager sapphire]

Metros are pretty robust

[fallow fractal]

w00t. How did it get fixed?

[normal plover]

Removed large solder blob that was touching one of the neopixel leads

[eager sapphire]

This is part and parcel of a live electronics show - keeps us ALL humble

[inland trail]

Glad you got it!

[odd stream]

SMT tips are for more than just SMT

[inland trail]

curse of the live show ;)\

[eager sapphire]

Was just thinking about SMT (SMD here) and what constitutes a blob in that tiny world

[shell mason]

when you solder a lot and make mistake as found outer ring work

[eager sapphire]

reminds me I need some SMD/T tips for my iron

[odd stream]

surface mount tech/device... just depends on context imo

[eager sapphire]

Always referred to them as SMD but then I still refuse to pronounce the L in solder

[inner spade]

It's gonna be beautiful!

[odd stream]

sawder

[eager sapphire]

Yes

[inner spade]

sole - dir

so - dir

[fallow fractal]

sodder

[eager sapphire]

And when I learned the word as “saw-der”, it felt quite wrong

But after all these decades...

[inner spade]

DJ - JP

[fallow fractal]

HUDSON

[shell mason]

rawrDer

Hudson River @haughty quiver DJ

[eager sapphire]

Great show, JP, and a great find too

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver! Enjoyed the show!

[odd stream]

Fun show. Nothing like folks seeing how the sausage is made.

[eager sapphire]

Yes, debugging is usually a big part of any project

[normal plover]

de soldering

[fallow fractal]

When you get older, it's most of the project. ;)

[eager sapphire]

Yes, debugging the 1 bit volatile RAM in my head

[fallow fractal]

Haha.

[normal plover]

We call those washers in the states

[haughty quiver]

I shake my fist at solder blob!!

[eager sapphire]

Lol

[fallow fractal]

Haha an analog ammeter will peg nicely but a digi -- don't know how to 'feel it' when it pegs.

(and a Simpson will pop out the breaker)

[eager sapphire]

I coveted those Simpson meters as a young man

[fallow fractal]

Yeah they're about $270 US for a starter model today. They are still in business.

[haughty quiver]

OK, now I'm determined to put this all back together like it was before I started cutting things apart!

[fallow fractal]

Well cutting it apart was definitive. ;)

[eager sapphire]

It is an imperative!

That’s right - John gets a pin for that, doesn’t he?

[haughty quiver]

Hey, that's right!

Although no blue smoke afaik

[fallow fractal]

Short Circuit Skill Badge

[haughty quiver]

that's the one

[shell mason]

[fallow fractal]

Gotta hand it to the Metro, though, for holding up.

[eager sapphire]

Makes it a great rig for prototyping

[haughty quiver]

It’s back together and working now : ] Thanks everyone in the chat for helping me troubleshoot this. Now to see if the Feather will run it.

[inner spade]

Nothing permanently smoked, @haughty quiver ?

[haughty quiver]

thankfully no!

looks like the Feather can run the full set, too

[inner spade]

Good to know.

[shell mason]

@haughty quiver for AT.AT you could add those lights and make it animated with trinket m0

[odd stream]

I want to see the cannons on the AT-AT do their recoil when they "fire"

Maybe little solenoids in the head?

[shell mason]

@odd stream the lights with 2 fires and then solenoid the recoil

[fallow fractal]

I sent them an email at [e-mail]

[odd stream]

Not sure why they recoil... they’re energy weapons, right? Light’s a particle, too... I know. Even so 😃

[sonic pewter]

Maybe the recoil was added as a way to help dissipate heat between shots so it doesn't melt after a couple of them? High power light is usually hot so

It's my guess

[open girder]

ok folks @here CircuitPython Hack Chat @hackadayio @hackaday @open girder #circuitpython-dev - https://hackaday.io/messages/room/2369 3pm ET! (20 mins from now)

video is here too 😃 https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[solid wyvern]

adafruit is live at https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[eager sapphire]

Solid audio and video here!

[shell mason]

good solid chat audio and video

[clear matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[fallow fractal]

https://hackaday.io/messages/room/2369

Join thru github to speed things up. I only needed to login to github to join the hackaday.io hack chat.

[normal plover]

The hackady room says this conversation does not exist

[marsh ice]

hello

[rapid hornet]

https://hackaday.io/project/5373

[normal plover]

I missed the tappity tap from @rapid hornet during show-n-tell

[pastel pike]

how do you join the hack chat?

[open girder]

https://hackaday.io/messages/room/2369

[woven stirrup]

@pastel pike You need to create a hackaday.io account, then the chat room link works: https://hackaday.io/messages/room/2369

[normal plover]

45 second abs

[muted mesa]

@clear matrix have you integrated pylint, with pycharm?

[shell mason]

@open girder panorama camera view from 360cam would be cool for thise hackchats

[fallow fractal]

Is there supposed to be audio in the hackchat itself?

[woven stirrup]

No, we don't do audio in HackChats, just text.

[shell mason]

@fallow fractal think telling us from hackchat

[river peak]

@rapid hornet But we like your keyboard.

[fallow fractal]

thank you @woven stirrup

[river peak]

I love clicky keyboards. Mine's just a little clicky, but I'd love to have a mechanical one. They're just a little expensive for me.

[clear matrix]

@muted mesa a pretty solid linting setup is already built into PyCharm. It catches most of what our pylint catches, minus a few here and there.

[eager sapphire]

Why use hackaday chat over discord?

[clear matrix]

The HackChat is a Hackaday event 😃

[eager sapphire]

Oh

[muted mesa]

I only slightly miss my 15yo mechanical. el cheapo i'm on has good spring and not too loud.

[eager sapphire]

I miss that old IBM AT keyboard. That thing was awesome.

[waxen thistle]

I used to use a remake of the IBM Model M, by Unicomp. But for the last 8 or so years, I've been a big fan of the Apple wired keyboard.

The chicklet style, before they went with the ultra-low profile chicklet.

Also, random 🐣

[eager sapphire]

I feel like I am spying on Limor here

[muted mesa]

@clear matrix wasn't aware it was already built-in. nice! i just stumbled across integration...and that it doesn't work with IDLE. 😦

but enough of that...to the hack chat! we can IDE gab later.

[fallow fractal]

😃

[eager sapphire]

If you’re watching here, @rapid hornet , is there a means to do inline assembler with CP?

[shell mason]

we used to watch Desk of Ladyada so its like normal

[eager sapphire]

Roger that, thanks Scott

[muted mesa]

it's like watching two dimensions in parallel motion.. 😄

[eager sapphire]

Dev time is sleek in CP, fair enough

[normal plover]

You can have it fast, cheap and bug-free .......Pick 2

[eager sapphire]

Quoting Mr. Scott there

[river peak]

Python handles strings. Arduino has to be beat into submission to handle strings.

[vague crypt]

Hello 😃

[fallow fractal]

I had no idea that was deshipu there in the hackchat with the 'decorative' name. ;)

[eager sapphire]

The dictionary keyword alone was enough to make Python compelling for me

A whole host of involved code doesn’t have to be written

[muted mesa]

@rapid hornet i'll start scouring ebay for a dictaphone... 😄

[fallow fractal]

THIS IS WHAT IT MUST BE LIKE to be a Borg and have all those other voices in your head. ;)

[eager sapphire]

As long as they only talk nerdy stuff, that’s fine

[blazing atlas]

If I want to use wifi with Circuitpython, which board should I use?

[muted mesa]

@blazing atlas esp8266 is the only one right now...

[clear matrix]

Feather HUZZAH.

[blazing atlas]

other than an ESP8266*** ><

[muted mesa]

not yet. esp32 is on the docket after nRF.

IIRC

[terse sparrow]

Why do I feel this place is more fun to chat than the other place?

[blazing atlas]

@muted mesa @clear matrix ty!

[muted mesa]

np

[vague crypt]

Who's typing that loud? 😋 😂

[clear matrix]

All of us 😃

[vague crypt]

😂

[muted mesa]

we need to start the keyboard guessing game... no push to talk; that would make it too easy.

[vague crypt]

Great idea!

[eager sapphire]

The funky sound is clearly @rapid hornet

[vague crypt]

I need to do things for school but I want to look 😫 😶

[fallow fractal]

J19 version 512 now 1MB later M4 "heard in audio"

[rapid hornet]

I believe this will be recorded so you can watch later

[vague crypt]

Yeah but too lazy 😂

[rapid hornet]

😃

[vague crypt]

What time is it for you? For me its 21:36 😐

[woven stirrup]

@rapid hornet the hackchat will have a transcript posted afterwards.

[eager sapphire]

is CP wired to use the M4’s built in DSP operations?

[fallow fractal]

Yeah 32 MB for the M0 vroom!

[muted mesa]

yeah. def Dan's realm...

[rapid hornet]

@eager sapphire I would hope we get the DSP operations due to the compiler

we should check that though 😃

[eager sapphire]

K thanks Scott

Wow Dan are you wearing out keyboards??

[waxen thistle]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who buys multiples and puts them on the shelf.

[open girder]

live video portion will end in 4 mins (3:45pm)

[fallow fractal]

lol everyone in the voice chat

partyyyy

[vague crypt]

Yeah, alot of people joined

ping ping ping ping ping

[fallow fractal]

A clean place, reasonably priced. -- Agent Cooper

[vague crypt]

Bye ladyade!

😂

ping

Why don't you have a bot in this server?

[fallow fractal]

dyno

[vague crypt]

Oh I see

[muted mesa]

?whois dyno

[arctic abyss]

Dyno#3861

ID

155149108183695360

Nickname

None

Status

online

Game

None

Joined

Tue, Aug 8, 2017 6:12 PM

Join Position

None

Registered

Thu, Mar 3, 2016 10:07 PM

Roles

Dyno

Key Permissions

Kick Members, Ban Members, Manage Channels, Manage Messages, Manage Nicknames, Manage Roles, Manage Webhooks, Manage Emojis

Acknowledgements

The one and only...

Feb 2, 2018, 8:46 PM

[vague crypt]

You should give it a Bot role

[rapid hornet]

good idea @vague crypt !

[normal plover]

Tell it we need a leeks emoji

[vague crypt]

Thank you!

[eager sapphire]

Hah! Figured out how to see this window and listen to the discord chat at the same time. +100

[crude pendant]

How?

[fallow fractal]

Not polite to accuse in the guise of a question.

[vague crypt]

I have one difficult question for you all:

[marsh ice]

My audio is too roboti! Was great on YouTube!

[eager sapphire]

First open the recorded session on the left, then hit the little v in the upper left hand corner

[marsh ice]

Something to do with Discord?

[vague crypt]

What does adafruit doesn't have!?

[marsh ice]

I guess.

[muted mesa]

@marsh ice are you on cellular? i've gotten robot-speak a few time on cell.

[marsh ice]

Nope!

Broadband...

[eager sapphire]

Audio (via discord) is fine here

[fallow fractal]

audio is great

[vague crypt]

For me its also great

[muted mesa]

classic tech support: did you try to restart? 😝

[vague crypt]

😂

[fallow fractal]

Download the native client for Discord. @marsh ice

[muted mesa]

that is a long list! hey everybody!! welcome!

[vague crypt]

I should repair my speaker

[marsh ice]

Will try restarting! I'm using the Discord App on MAC

[rapid osprey]

Great job to the entire CP team.

[fallow fractal]

Circuit Python Meeting is a regular event and has audio.

[eager sapphire]

Fridays at ___ EST

[clear matrix]

We have the CircuitPython Weekly every Monday at 11am PT/2pm ET.

[vague crypt]

Can I send a picture of my DIY Speaker?

[eager sapphire]

Thanks K

Is she shirking a meeting for this?

[rapid osprey]

so cool. I will have to join the weekly chats

[waxen thistle]

The cat knows where it's at. 😃

[rapid hornet]

past meetings are available in the pin above

[fallow fractal]

There's a portion at the end of the Weekly called something like In The Weeds that is quite informal. Generally at the end of the Meeting.

(golf metaphor)

[vague crypt]

Picture of speaker in #general-tech for anyone who want to see it

[clear matrix]

@rapid osprey We'd love to have you!

[vague crypt]

It has an adafruit speaker bonnet inside

[muted mesa]

that might get unwieldy...

not anymore! 😄

[rapid osprey]

I will try. So awesome that you are building community. Great progress from the protoboard

[eager sapphire]

How can you tell when an engineer is not shy?

[rapid osprey]

Tony D shared with the SuperHackaday Conference

[eager sapphire]

When he or she looks at YOUR shoes while talking, yes

[normal plover]

do you know why not false is funny?

[marsh ice]

cuz its true?

[vague crypt]

"Hello"

[rapid osprey]

Thanks all!

[clear matrix]

@rapid osprey Thanks for coming by

[fallow fractal]

Nice question in the hackchat.

[rapid osprey]

My pleasure. I hope to find more time for CP

[muted mesa]

pixel dust

[vague crypt]

What resolution is the dust?

[eager sapphire]

LOL

[muted mesa]

you just have to randomize your speed. (don't forget to seed)

pineapple

[fallow fractal]

Diceware.
http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html

[waxen thistle]

Password managers are the way to go anymore

[rapid hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSfmVdRejTk

[vague crypt]

https://www.google.com/search?q=random+number This is a random number

[fallow fractal]

Is a random number +1 still a a random number? j/k

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[rancid depot]

what's the max number of neopixels you can drive with a trinket m0? Assuming you have proper power.

Yup. Can hear you. Thanks.

[clear matrix]

Something like 8000+ but you will start to have issues with speed depending on the length of the strips.

[vague crypt]

266680564 neopixels

Thats an random number generated by Google

[rancid depot]

Thanks guys. I'm working on a trinket clone for neopixel that I will share on the show and tell one of these days.

[vague crypt]

I'm also random

[fallow fractal]

26 Jan Sat 18:03z, in #general-tech - Scott @rapid hornet says the major parameters for neopixel.

good work everyone!!!

[rancid depot]

The UF2 is easy!

[rapid hornet]

you too @fallow fractal !

[clear matrix]

Yeah thanks everyone!

[fallow fractal]

was epic, was success, very yum

[rancid depot]

Dan was helping me with the bootloader burning on the forums. Finally got it to work!

[fallow fractal]

no I happen to have a shop note where you discuss the major parameters for neopixel timing Scott. @rapid hornet

[rancid depot]

I need to update the forum thread with my solution for others.

[rapid hornet]

great!

[strange mantle]

8000 * ~0.060 amps/pixel = 480 AMPS!!
going-to-need-a-bigger-power-supply.gif

[rapid hornet]

https://hackaday.io/event/34310-circuit-python-hack-chat

[terse sparrow]

https://hackaday.io/project/27161-trinket-shields

[molten forum]

That was awesome, thank you all!

[rapid hornet]

thanks @molten forum for having us!

[paper peak]

@molten forum thanks for hosting us!!

[vague crypt]

Bye, going to sleep

[muted mesa]

later @vague crypt

[paper peak]

@vague crypt - bye thanks for staying up!

[vague crypt]

Bye!

[terse sparrow]

What was that micropython table at Fosdem? I heard that in audio, but it was unclear.

[clear matrix]

@vague crypt later!

[terse sparrow]

Is that microbit table from BBC?

[rancid depot]

Later guys. Thanks for your time doing this.

[clear matrix]

@rancid depot Thanks for joining us!

[terse sparrow]

The thing is you can come anytime and chat and ask question on Discord... I do that frequently. 😃

[waxen thistle]

Yepper, Discord is 24/7. And everyone is pretty chill here.

[strange mantle]

🐈

[inner spade]

Thanks for hosting this chat session! TTYL

[terse sparrow]

@paper peak did not answer the "more" question. I made a "cat" version for micropython on the ESP8266 because it lack the USB file system access. So I believe a quick way to see code while connected in serial is great.

[paper peak]

@terse sparrow ah, misunderstood your question. I do something | more all the time. Thought you were looking for that as opposed to a paginated cat.

so you'd like more('main.py') or similar

[terse sparrow]

Some basic "shell" command could help. With micropython I imported I don't know what library and could read and write files, I used that and listing function to do a lot from the REPL on ESP8266.

The USB disk access change things a lot, but it is still usefull.

Yes more('main.py').

[paper peak]

print(open('file.py').readlines()), but maybe not so attractive

[terse sparrow]

I looked at Tony script to upload and download from the "console".

He made a nice video about those time (before circuitpython existed).

[paper peak]

i'll check that out

[terse sparrow]

This is what I made: https://gist.github.com/dglaude/fc9dfae354e2f82b85e3317219c688d3

Does not work for Circuit Python as it fail on "import os"

But you get the idea.

Showing the content of a file (with or without line number... I gues decat was with line number).

How, and that Gist is the script I can copy and paste to microPython to create the cat.py and other.

I found it interesting to have basic functionality in command line. Like an enhanced REPL.

[eager sapphire]

Later folks, great show, lots of data, top shelf

[rapid hornet]

bye @eager sapphire !

[fallow fractal]

You're talking to the guy who WROTE the more pager. haha.

[rapid hornet]

@terse sparrow import os should work

[fallow fractal]

Like, the original one, way long ago.

[muted mesa]

well, not THAT long ago. 😄

[paper peak]

i think that's why he asked me!

[terse sparrow]

@fallow fractal I know, this is why I asked...

[fallow fractal]

Dirt was still new back then.

[paper peak]

40 years ago

[terse sparrow]

No more, no less...

[fallow fractal]

Sorry that doesn't translate as funny in print. Oops.

[paper peak]

there was no more and no less before then. Actually, there was, just not a Unix command. https://danhalbert.org/more.html

[fallow fractal]

David I think I use a terminal that has good scrollback support in the REPL.

[paper peak]

@fallow fractal he'd like to more main.py, etc.

[terse sparrow]

I need to check my terminal, but I believe I "screen" from OSX and from there I can not scroll back.

[fallow fractal]

@paper peak if the habit of coding in the host PC with all its great tools (including editor) is followed, and then just do writes to the mounted circuit python volume's root directory .. the problem goes away. ;)

[paper peak]

screen does have a way of scrolling back, but it's kind of awful. I've switched to picocom, which is more normal.

@fallow fractal it was re the ESP8266 which sadly doesn't have that.

[fallow fractal]

Except in the important case where one is typing stuff into the REPL to debug there.

[terse sparrow]

So that might be my problem. I need to switch to picocom.

However the standard recommendation for OSX is always screen. Maybe because it is build in (well, I don't remember installing it, but it could be years ago).

[fallow fractal]

Screen is okay but I don't use it. Mac OS X 10.something had Terminal.app which I thought was decent.

[paper peak]

https://github.com/npat-efault/picocom has a -q switch, which removes picocom's startup and shutdown verbosity.

[terse sparrow]

minicom would bring back memories.

[fallow fractal]

screen is a very odd choice for a default recommendation but yes they do so.

[paper peak]

minicom doesn't wrap lines unless you do -w

[fallow fractal]

I use microcom and it's fine. I believe it was/is part of busybox.

But I'm using it in a GUI-driven shell window. GNOME terminal. I'm usually not a GNOME person but I do like the terminal.
I use stock Debian Linux.

[terse sparrow]

+++ath0 (just trying)

Maybe one not asked question... How many people under adafruit payroll are working on Circuit Python?

[muted mesa]

i use these as answers a lot: pineapple, orange, 8.

[terse sparrow]

Anytime I join the discord, there are many, but I don't know if they are on adafruit payroll or just friends and foo.

[fallow fractal]

They're still answering questions posted in the proper place for the Hackchat that didn't get answered.

David, some authors of 'learn' articles are seemingly on permanent staff, but more than one is just a community contributor and not on hire.

[muted mesa]

@terse sparrow , I believe its about 3 or 4. tannewt, Dan Halbert, Kattni, and Tony Dicola. The rest of us are just friends and foo.

[terse sparrow]

The idea behind the question is to show the involvement and investment of adafruit on this.

[fallow fractal]

Lots of foo. ;)

The boss lady isn't a hire but also works on Circuit Python. ;)

[muted mesa]

well, yeah. that too. haha

[terse sparrow]

And you can add ladyada and maybe John Park.

She is on the payroll.

[fallow fractal]

She had a tough interview. A woman with an unusual shade of red hair interviewed her for several months. ;)

This feels like gossip to me, though, so I'll bow out right there.

[clear matrix]

@terse sparrow There are 4 of us working full time on CircuitPython. But the real number is fluid, there are people who help as well.

[terse sparrow]

Thank you for the chat and answer. I watch the latest "new new new", then get some rest for FOSDEM. I am a local, that's my university. It is a must for me (if family obligation permit).

[clear matrix]

Other Adafruit people I mean.

[terse sparrow]

4 full time! Working remotely, your are not in the same "office" or you would not use discord that much I guess.

[paper peak]

we are scattered

[terse sparrow]

@rapid hornet You are working on the secondary citizen question? I wonder if I made other offensive question. 😃

yes

ESP8266 is/was great for Circuit Python because it can be tested before acquiring M0 board.

This is what I did.

Everybody has ESP8266, so everybody can test CP.

That was in my mind the hidden idea.

For me, knowing the Wifi, it was a bit of a shock to go back to "no network". But I found some fun with the USB, keyboard HID emulation, ...

But I am special, because I never did Arduino programming, nor PIC programming.

For me it was Raspberry Pi, then ESP8266 because of a pimoroni board. Then MicroPython on it, then Tony video, then Circuit Python.

Wifi mean IP then you need a stack.

ESP give you that part of their SDK (I guess).

So it is a big step.

[fading meadow]

This was fun to eavesdrop on. Kind of a chaotic way to do a chat, but it got a lot of people involved!!! Nice job

[clear matrix]

Chaotic indeed

[fallow fractal]

Very Borg like. ;) The rules of communication have changed a lot in my lifetime. Just the answering machine protocol alone was huge when it was first introduced.

When I was a kid if you didn't want to hear the phone ring, you took it off the hook switch. The HOWLER would come after you (a loud unpleasant sound through the earpiece). I forget how long that went on for.
But then Radio Shack came out with a new idea: a switch you could put inline with the (newly modular) phone cord, that suppressed the (100 VAC) ring signal on the DC (48 VDC) carrier.

From that point forward, it was (for the first time, ever) possible to not have the phone actually ring, when someone 'rang' (dialed your number).

[odd stream]

I'm still confused by OBS's behaviour, but I have it in a state that I can record. video/audio. I'll try getting around to making another test clip later tonight (most of the evening will be taken up by a Pathfinder game).

[karmic pendant]

how recharge li 402025 battery. is there special device

[heavy plinth]

find charging voltage and max current then put that exactly into it

[rocky reef]

@here #help-with-3dprinting Live in 5 mins! https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Episode #172 – Dials, Buttons and JoyCons

[solid wyvern]

adafruit is live at https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit

[shell mason]

@hard hollow and @rocky reef you could also check https://www.onmsft.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/surfacedial4.jpg Surface Dial

that dial what you guys made totally look similar what was teh reference

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code ROTARY gets you 10% off your order! https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[normal plover]

what is the link for showandtell?

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

[glossy glacier]

🔬

[rapid hornet]

@normal plover https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/vavt7uywszc6rkgephfopxeddye

[open girder]

@here SHOW-AND-TELL LIVE VIDEO! 2/7/18 (video) https://youtu.be/zkYnwXtnysE & 10% off all items in stock code is falcon expires 2/7/18 @ 11:59pm ET #askanengineer http://www.adafruit.com +Adafruit Industries

[split gazelle]

hello!

[waxen thistle]

heya @split gazelle! 😃

[remote delta]

I would join the stream, but my laptop isn't very good with that.

Also, hello!

[eager sapphire]

I see TDI is in the house

[waxen thistle]

The most open, DIY friendly black box ever 😃

[round willow]

Nu, it's full

[spring heath]

Chris Young is on, great!

[normal plover]

awe...full

[eager sapphire]

Very cool and useful for video edit shuttling too

[spring heath]

I like the small one also

[eager sapphire]

Yes...could put a few in a small box

[shell mason]

nice one @sterile mulch

[rapid hornet]

@normal plover keep an eye out to see if someone drops

[split gazelle]

those lights are great!

[spring heath]

Nice project Erin

Nice IBM Selectric Chris

[strange mantle]

they wrote DOS

[spring heath]

Making DOS

[normal plover]

    panic()

[lavish patrol]

We almost ended up with CP-M

[river peak]

Hacking ikea lamps? Truly a bright idea, @clear matrix

[fallow fractal]

Yeah they shipped a chip with it! @strange mantle

[lavish patrol]

@river peak 😋

[rapid hornet]

love those lights @clear matrix

[clear matrix]

@rapid hornet Thanks! The code is some of my favorite!

@river peak Apparently!

[lavish patrol]

We have sound!

[waxen thistle]

This Ikea lamp http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40355876/ is one of my favorites -- the shade comes off so easily, and I've turned it into a webcam mount without much hassle. And for $10, you can't argue 😃

[glossy glacier]

other Adam...

[waxen thistle]

Now do we put a trail cam on a SEM....or a SEM on a trail cam?

[fallow fractal]

Trail camera that sends out its imagery in realtime! wow.

[spring heath]

@clear matrix - maybe Noe and Pedro could 3D print a lamp shade like the one at https://design-milk.com/helia-concrete-mesh-light-fixtures-by-dror-kaspi-for-ardoma-design/ and you could do the lighting - really different pattern

[fallow fractal]

Notice how quickly he remounts that enclosure on the pole. wow.

[eager sapphire]

Nicely done

[lavish patrol]

Probably magnets.

[waxen thistle]

Adam, do you have a link to the trail cam project? I have a couple of potential uses in rural PA. What sort of range do you get on them?

[normal plover]

Bigfoot pictures coming soon i hope

[severe inlet]

I think I heard the telltale velcro sound when he took it off the pole.

[spring heath]

Cat!

[fallow fractal]

I'm so ugly Bigfoot steps out of the forest to snap a picture of ME! ;)

[strange mantle]

yah. nice wireless web cam.

creature cam

[clear matrix]

@spring heath Yeah you could have a lot of fun with different 3D printed patterns!

[waxen thistle]

I'm mistaken for Bigfoot with my beard. It's annoying being chased by a bunch of hunters every time I go for a grocery run.

[lavish patrol]

Cat pee is potent.

[inner spade]

Cat fume exhaust fan...

[normal plover]

PT called it a cathouse

[clear matrix]

@glossy glacier Amazing!

[rapid hornet]

the trench!

awe, I was wrong

[waxen thistle]

Wow.

[rapid hornet]

wow += 1

[river peak]

"How to bend your electron beam with a Variac"

[inner spade]

Amazing!

[river peak]

@glossy glacier is writing a book, and that's the title

[lavish patrol]

What did Adam do with his old SEM?

[waxen thistle]

He's going to get 3 more SEMs, and combine them into the Power Ranger's SEMazord.

[spring heath]

Like Manhattan from the sky

[eager sapphire]

Reverse engineering one transistor at a time

[lavish patrol]

@waxen thistle LOL.

[fallow fractal]

That's a jaw-dropper, @glossy glacier

[waxen thistle]

Those high res image @glossy glacier ....wow. Amazing.

[inner spade]

Excellent fab work @void widget !